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  • Secret copyright treaty leaks. It’s bad. Very bad.

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    Cory Doctorow
    Boingboing
    November 4, 2009

    The internet chapter of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a secret copyright treaty whose text Obama’s administration refused to disclose due to “national security” concerns, has leaked. It’s bad. It says:

    * That ISPs have to proactively police copyright on user-contributed material. This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger, since hiring enough lawyers to ensure that the mountain of material uploaded every second isn’t infringing will exceed any hope of profitability.

    * That ISPs have to cut off the Internet access of accused copyright infringers or face liability. This means that your entire family could be denied to the internet — and hence to civic participation, health information, education, communications, and their means of earning a living — if one member is accused of copyright infringement, without access to a trial or counsel.

    * That the whole world must adopt US-style “notice-and-takedown” rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused — again, without evidence or trial — of infringing copyright. This has proved a disaster in the US and other countries, where it provides an easy means of censoring material, just by accusing it of infringing copyright.

    * Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)

    The ACTA Internet Chapter: Putting the Pieces Together

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    164 Responses to “Secret copyright treaty leaks. It’s bad. Very bad.”

    1. Rebl Says:

      WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
      No fucking wonder they didnt want this shit leaked!!

      Michael Reply:

      I wish Rod Serling the creator of “The Twilight Zone” t.v. show was still alive and here today to see all of this F___ING S__T. He would probably say “WOW…. this is better than my T.V. show ever was.

      No He Would Not Reply:

      Rod was a Master Magician, as in Magick, as in, He KNEW.

      Far beyond the paltry crap that is playing out now.

      He gave anybody with a brain and soul hints to the Way Out of this shit hole.

      Allagore Reply:

      A way out? The only way out is to point a gun at your head. Many in the near future will see this logic.

      For there is no other way out. Most of you know this, only stubbornly continue for some inane reason to try to change destiny.

      No He Would Not Reply:

      You didn’t get The Memo.

      So, what you say is True For YOU.

      To Project Such Failure Unto Others is the stuff Hell Is Made Of.

      saturnx311 Reply:

      You’re despairing…bad state of mind.
      Change that now or you will succumb.

      m-c hamer Reply:

      AL G, why dont you put your gun where your mouth IS ——O—- you’re a moron
      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Dr. Sardonicus Reply:

      ..IF I point a gun at ANYONE’S head, then it sure as sh*t ain’t gonna be mine!

      I can think of a lot of bastards in this world who ought to have guns pointing at their heads..and just a little bit more! hahahaha

      Death to the ‘nwo’..God save the Republic (what’s left of it!)

      Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

      2ndRevolution Reply:

      Allagore is a black ops agent trying to psychologically crush you. The attempt is obvious. Don’t be fooled – Infowars isn’t. Keep up the good fight people. Watch out these types of assholes. They’re everywhere

      LaughingBarry Reply:

      I agree with 2ndRevolution! Allagore: go back to your cubicile and “engage” people that aren’t aware of the methods of psychological operations that you are employed to carry out. It feels like watching a movie that you’ve seen every day since you were 4 years old.

      Son of Liberty Reply:

      I’m not pointing a gun at my head, that insane. I’m not a coward I will die fighting. For those of you who think killing yourself is an answer, find a set of guiding principles a.k.a. a philosophy.

      spook45 Reply:

      YEA! If he did he could probably sue THEM for Copyright Infringement:)

      steve Reply:

      If this is true, this will be the end of fair use and freedom of speech as we know it. Every documentary which I have watched freely due to freedom loving patriots on youtube, infowars and elsewhere, and which I credit with waking me up to the NWO would be banned by this. This would be the end to waking people up. All we would have left is govt controlled propaganda.

      It Is NOT The End Reply:

      MAKE YOUR OWN CONTENT!

      john jay Reply:

      start a bbs!!. They can’t shut down your private bbs.

      MyBroHadABBS Reply:

      My Bro had a BBS and was shut down in the late 80s by the FCC. He was only 12. So don’t think they won’t come after anyone with a BBS they don’t like ‘coz they will friends…

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Go back to simplicity. Ham radio. The more technologically advanced something is, the more they’re able to screw it up. And they can’t screw up face-to-face communication. It’s time to get locally connected.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      No matter what you think of, they WILL win.
      It was written over 2000 years ago and spoken of by God.
      I’m not saying don’t fight back! BUT they will win.

      ALL this is, is a database, all of it.
      Satan hears your thoughts and you are literally a celestial being, brainwashed howbeit(as we all are), but THAT is what you are up against….. Run all the fuck you want but the devil knows where you are and what you’re thinking. He knows you better than you know yourself.

      So just make up your mind that you will DIE for Jesus Christ, your creator (fighting or doing God’s will), because that is the only fucking reason you are here anyhow and that’s the only ONE who is going to ’save’ you.
      The is bible prophecy and you, nor I, nor Alex Jones or anyone of any faction will deter the words of God on what will happen. Just trust in him and OPEN your mind, but foremost open your brainwashed little hearts.

      …ok Flame away ~ ..|.,

      Drekx Omega Reply:

      UK City Councilman Demands US/UK Admit ET Presence…..See link:

      http://www.thisishampshire.net.....ns/?ref=mr

      whitemale08 Reply:

      Don’t worry about this kind of stuff folks.

      They will only get away with this kind of ‘controls’ crap for so long.

      After every company in the world loses money from this the ‘monopoly men’ will be forced to reverese this type garbage.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      white, that is exactly the point. They want to turn independently well-off companies into the middle class. Then they want to tank the middle class and make them poor. Then kill off the poor. In the end, the “elite” scum intend to be the only ones left standing on the ash heap they plan to make of the world.

      StarinaNovak Reply:

      “Brave New World” by Huxley, NWO philosopher and swiss made LSD smuggler.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      Ya money is far from their concerns. Like Aaron Russo said, they want power. ‘Total Control’…. the microchip in every man, woman and child.

      Heh, GCN may even get shutdown…. since Alex isn’t willing to say ‘fight’ or ‘kill’
      because he’s a showman making money under the shrewd guise of patriotism and a self proclaimed ‘Christianity’. Hell, who isn’t Christian today?
      A Jesuit, and an idiot who has more of a belly then he does genitals or vocal cord.

      See the thing is, he’s feeding you the truth. It speeds up the whole fucking process dumb asses. He’s a fear monger-er and doing a terrible job in my opinion at his psychological warfare. It doesn’t take kid rock to smell the bacon.

      The Antichrist will be/is master of psychological warfare and will convince almost the entire world and every soul in it.

      Good luck. Wake up and consider Christ before it’s too late to turn back.
      Like Misty Edwards says, ‘Jesus IS coming’.

      obentag Reply:

      The thing is, as usual this will only be selectively enforced. YouTube and Facebook will be left alone, and most people will never see the internet gestapo, so they won’t think there is a problem, as long as they are only watching the latest SNL skit.

      The point of this kind of thing is to shut down sites like infowars.com and udonews.com, they could just accuse Alex of violating copyright, and shut him down and let it be his problem to navigate the tangled mess of bureaucracy to try to get his internet access back.

      Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:

      Yes, expose every secret plan, spend your dollars wisely, locally, and support freedom loving patriots. These old dinasaurs will die out.

      1 more match to burn Reply:

      The New King
      The thronging of a new idol! What have we done! Nothing, the mass media made King Obama, The people were inundated with lies by the corrupt media which are subsidiaries of the large corporations, and this is by far a wrong to Idolized a puppet. And a complete disservice you need not.Your mass media has made him into a pious man.2009 ©
      By M. W. D———

      Look at CFR web page! Hiring

      JJ Goodtimes Reply:

      Hot shit! What do we do??

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      Go to the library (DUH!)

      Thats Some Leaky Shit Reply:

      THAT IS SOME LEAKY SHIT

      vet Reply:

      hope

      http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html

      alex get benjamin on your show.

      truth teller Reply:

      Rebl, you could’ve used some more swear words.

      HorseofPaulRevere Reply:

      Innocent until proven guilty, ever heard of that? Another right down the drain…

    2. justuseplastic-sheets2Bsafe Says:

      First at last!

    3. Scott Carriere Says:

      Just another way they want to control your life.

      No NWO!!!! Reply:

      WTH????? I’m sure going to miss you guys on the internet. Have a great enslaved life, the best you can anyway.

      Time to grab the Bug-Out bag and go, because it is going o hit the fan around this country soon.

      Solutions Reply:

      Not to get all biblical and all, but it is prophesied that in the end times, people will wish for death as an escape and they will not die. There will be great miricles that are not of God, but will be of Satan.

      Hmmm, things do not look too good.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Solutions, it’s WAY past time to get biblical. Too many people want a political savior, just as in Jesus’ day, when they rejected and crucified Him. They want to exclude God from everyday life and expect our guns and human strength to save us. I’m intelligent enough to see that the human race NEEDS a savior. Maybe when people have exhausted every other avenue, they will ask God to step in. For the time being, (in their estimation), He is not needed. Sad, but true.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      You’re an idiot go fuck your wife with your best friend and shut tha fuck up.
      Dickheads and nubs like you always fucking with Christians. Wait and see then smart ass. See if you ain’t suckin ol satan’s cock before it’s over and if you fuck with us we’ll kill your ass. Suck my fucking cheek.

    4. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      So like, i’m really forkin’ serious folks…

      [ARM-UP, SPREAD - OUT]

    5. InvestigatEverything Says:

      We knew this was coming. The internet’s days are numbered… as are our days of being free citizens.

      Allagore Reply:

      You never have been free idiot.

      saturnx311 Reply:

      I have always been and will always be free.
      ALL choices remain yours. No one can choose for you.
      You can be forced, but that was not your choice, therefore you are still free. If you are attacked, you will defend yourself, therefore you are free.

      Solutions Reply:

      This is why they needed 9/11, to justify passing laws that would lead to our enslavement. This all so obvious that it’s totally lame and pathetic and right after seizing the internet will be talk radio and all newspapers and then telephone calls out. If they wipe out a town or city with whatever, not a peep will ever be allowed to leak out, as quaranteens are enacted to intercept any foot soldiers of truth. All of this is in your best interest and trust them, they know what’s best for you, including death.

    6. Lunae Nemoris Says:

      To our not being able to post our music for free
      on our Myspace blog, very deterring.

    7. Lunae Nemoris Says:

      Hopefully that will not be the case.
      If anyone on this stuff is into slow,
      Black Sabbath-style metal, feel free
      to check us out:

      http://www.myspace.com/lunaenemoris

      Thanks, guys.

      steve Reply:

      self-serving scumbag. Your music sucks worse than a 5 crackwhore.

      DSLandis Reply:

      I like some of the guitar work, but all the screaming…not so much. Thanks for sharing.

      WTF Reply:

      Go play your binga-banga music somewhere else. Nobody cares. You’re wasting bandwidth. Fuck off!!!!!!!

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      terrible.

      Can you even play a guitar or sing?
      WTF? I could do better with my mouth and a tape recorder rofl.

    8. Tom71 Says:

      (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM) What does that mean?

      maelstrom Reply:

      legal exemptions for making a copy despite copyright i guess. fair-use exemptions to DMCA.

    9. Lunae Nemoris Says:

      That was phrased horribly.

      Corporate Death Reply:

      Or, maybe you should say, “that was horribly phrased”. Although, it wasn’t. I understood.

    10. Sdrider Says:

      We are going back to network to network so save our rights

    11. Ben Says:

      The Inquisition, the Stasi, the Securitate, the Gestapo and the KGB all praticed punishment without trial, under anonymous denounciation. What an heritage!

    12. MysteryMan Says:

      The bombs can start falling any day now. WW3 is RIGHT around the corner.

      Allagore Reply:

      I cant wait.

    13. Sdrider Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRuuSlCCOc

    14. Jet-Five- Says:

      Hey.. We are change chico are going to start truth polical satire. Examples: How To explain 9/11 to an american.. Why HR1207 confuses most americans. Creating a democrat republican party that is both red and blue and calling it the DemoPubes. Why americans prefer shit over steak and why the NWO is actually appealing to everday people. ALSO: The bright side of FEMA camps and mass murder. We are thinking of doing a skit in the chico mall as american troops looking for bin laden.

      maelstrom Reply:

      chico, how about a comic book or little film or radio drama about sherlock holmes investigates 9/11? make him fall into a dimensional doorway with mr watson. sherlock would get tot he bottom of it quick.

    15. WakeUp Says:

      Lawyers addressing job security once again.

      When a system has become run by lawyers, why would anyone expect anything different that an expansion of their scope and authority?

      It’s the same with ANY special interest group … And we just keep voting them into power.

      Corporate Death Reply:

      “And we just keep voting them into power.”
      Really? GTFO.

    16. Joe Says:

      Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm

      I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.

    17. Gary Says:

      What I wish would happen is that EVERYONE would stop buying ANYTHING produced by any CELEBRITY. Turn off all cable and satellite, stop buying CD’s from any mainstream artist, stop going to the movies, no more buying or renting DVD’s from mainstream sources.

      Put these bastards in their place. Just say no to MAINSTREAM!

      Corporate Death Reply:

      Keep wishing and you might end up in the magic kingdom after clicking your heels three times and repeat the phrase…”there’s nWo place like home” This doesn’t look like Kansas Dorothy.

    18. grub Says:

      95% of intellectual property “copyrights” is Bullshit. All digital info is free. You don’t have an exclusive right to it because you’re the creator. Deal with it.

      Artist Reply:

      YOU are definitely NOT a, “creative person.”

      YOU are definitely a Hack…. at best. At at worst…….

      Do you expect to work for zero paycheck?

      Think about it, you stupid mutha phuqa.

      Phuque You.

      Allagore Reply:

      Everyone is a hack. Nothing is original. Everything comes from Universe.

      People like yourself want to feel special. You want to feel like you have a truly original concept or idea. When in fact everything in your life, from the day that you where born has come from an external source.

      Language. The medium that is used to articulate our so called souls is not even ours, but came from an external source.

      The problem with you dreamers is that you dont live in reality. And reality will soon crush you flimsy dreams. And I cant wait.

      Reality will soon absorb most of you filthy animals for good.

      Unoriginal viruses wishing to be original. Your replication will shortly be contained.

      Resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated.

      Artist Reply:

      You Are Lost.

      You are already Dead.

      People, listen not to Allagore.

      He has one foot in Hell…. When the Marker is Called Due, he will be No More.

      betweenthelines Reply:

      you are right artist, people should pay you because you create beautiful things we all love. I have great respect for the ARTIST.

      BUT it shouldn’d cost me 15 dollars for a cd, when it can be produced and solD at a profit for 2-3 dollars. so i download. it’s not you. it’s not me it’s the companies that sell your products for a ridiculos mark up.
      It’s not the pirateer that’s the criminal, it’s the companies that sell you products. they phucked themselves.

      I love creativity, imagination and respect you. But am I wrong to have a grudge against these companies that have been stealing too much of my money for too long?

      Artist Reply:

      betweenthelines,

      Many companies are getting hip and offering singles as mp3s.

      Your logic is dated, as is the CD model these days.

      If an artist produces a work for compen$ation and you want it, follow through.

      If you don’t want to pay, pass on the artist’s work and get on with Your life.

      It is as simple as that.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      Mr Smith? lol

      williamwallace Reply:

      Want an exclusive right keep it to your fuckin self. Or stand outside and play like the old days outside with a hat on the floor filled with money. Other wise you will have agents ripping you off and have to pay hundreds of thousands to make 50 thousand after all are payed for their “services”. Look at TLC, They got it in the poop shoot. Forget copyrights and trade MARKS. Its a scam to let industries buy out the good ideas and keep the crap for the public. Remember the dude in the late 70’s that invented a carburator for a 100hp car got 80 mpg. Well some large car company bought out his idea from a family member who inherited it after he was found murdered. Than they came out 5 years later with a fuel injected engine to stop that from ever being sought after and further removing savy can inthusiests to repair their owne cars. My great grandfather invented the accordian door for phone booths. He was the head mechanical drafter for Bell labs in NYC. He made a great living during the great depression guess where that got him years later? NO where every invention he worked on after signing a contract became their property. For fear that even after he worked there he never invented another product after for fear they may lay claim. Know how to ruin a productive economy? make all people responciable signatorys on all products and inventions. Sad thing is in his attic There was a pair of work boots with 2 metal cast tracks on the bottom with metal wheeles on the bottom. Its was said those shoes were made in 1938 when my grandmother wanted to keep up with her brother on a bike. So that in a nut shell is how the eleite keep people from inventing good stuff and that is also how they stop people from removing their cornering of the market.

      saturnx311 Reply:

      What happened to TLC?

      maelstrom Reply:

      grub, te other 95% is public domain material someone claims a copyright on because they typed it in, or corrected a spelling mistake, or had a great aunt who taught it at community college once.

    19. Grow UP! Says:

      Don’t Boo Hoo.

      Make Your OWN Content!

      STOP riding the coat tails of others!

      ENGAGE the brains and souls you were given.

      The Creator of creators Made You.

      And YOU can Create.

      GET BUSY!!!!

      hot rod Reply:

      why admit to creating something when someone else will take it away from you… thats just what the mindless administration wants…. i had recently ran into a pyramid sceme to get me to get 20ppl to put in$1000each in on a green tech program . in return you can get discouts

      Artist Reply:

      Copyright Register.

      Simple.

      You Phuques will just have to Pay. As you should have been all along.

      Do YOU go to work… for ZERO paycheck?

      You stupid phuques that inhabit this site are good for not a damned thing except to consume.

      You have Zero originality, which means ZERO soul

      THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

      Ezra Reply:

      I am an artist, I think I should have the right to post my work online for free if I want, and if I do, I do so with the hope that others share and or use the material for their own inspiration or their own free art. I don’t think someone else should try and make a profit off of something that someone posted for free, what is free should remain free. And also I think that it is important to give credit where credit is due, you know like a foot note or a quote in a research paper, plagerism has never been acceptable in any case. So I’m not sure why we need new laws regulating this concept. I also agree with you though, that as an artist, if I choose to copyright my material, then anyone who uses it should pay a reasonable fee. I think its the freedom of choice of the artist for any given work they might create during their career.

      Artist Reply:

      Ezra,

      You don’t, “choose to copyright your material.”

      You have a copyright the moment you, “set,” your work in one form or another.
      Some examples would be written word put to paper. Song recorded. Etc.

      The registration of a copyright, with the Library of Congress in the states, offers another level of protection, though that added protection is far from bulletproof.

      If an artist chooses to make his works available at no charge, that is his business.
      If an artist chooses to make his works available at charge, this is his Busine$$.
      Both decisions should be respected, with appropriate follow-through for those who enjoy the works.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      Fuck your work, fuck your creativity, fuck your TV, fuck your car, but ya ….. fuck you too bro. Fuck you.

      Artist Reply:

      Spoken like a true troglodyte.

      Stinks to be you, doesn’t it?

    20. 1 more match to burn Says:

      The New King
      The thronging of a new idol! What have we done! Nothing, the mass media made King Obama, The people were inundated with lies by the corrupt media which are subsidiaries of the large corporations, and this is by far a wrong to Idolized a puppet. And a complete disservice you need not.Your mass media has made him into a pious man.2009 ©
      By M. W. De——-

      Looking for work? SEE the CFR web site

    21. Very radical Libertarian Says:

      this is why infowars needs to draft richard stallman as a contributor, because the internet is the last place for any serious freedom (aside from the wilderness which is far less exciting) and stallman is the expert on the subject on privacy and digital freedom.

      in case you don’t know, stallman is a hero for those who believe in free and open privacy-respecting software, which is mostly developed over the web, and can you guess who one of the targets are in these new internet-regulating bills? that’s right, those who create software that respect privacy and creativity. so no more linux, firefox, vlc or openoffice, you will have to resort back to spyware like windows, internet explorer, ms office and the various “anti-virus” utilities that snatch your data. so download and use what free/open software you can, even if you don’t want to use linux as your operating system it still helps tremendously if you do not use windows media player, ms office or ie in exchange for pro-freedom software like firefox, openoffice and vlc.

      Very radical Libertarian Reply:

      and i forgot to mention avg. if you don’t want mcafee or norton stealing your data use avg for virus protection, or simply do run as administrator.

      Very radical Libertarian Reply:

      *or simply do not run as administrator

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      If you don’t want your information stolen turn off your PC.

      Very Radical Libertarian Reply:

      some of us code and that is not the best option.

      Johnny Canuck Reply:

      Yes, yes yes!!!! Firefox has great add-ons too, like Track Me Not, Web Of Trust (WOT), Download Helper, and PDF Downloader by Nitro. There are hundreds of other handy add-ons also. All free!!!!

    22. "M" Says:

      Can we sue these mother fuckers?

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      trust no one

    23. mark Says:

      “That the whole world must adopt US-style “notice-and-takedown” rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused — again, without evidence or trial”

      easy response… “international lawsuits are expensive :) ”…

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      expense is not expensive

    24. Armando Says:

      If i knew this was going to happen…. i would have urged anyone and everyone i came into contact with before the election to vote for ron paul. Even though it might have only have made a marginal difference….. i would have felt better about myself and the state of the country. This shit is horrid.

    25. bigoldpuppy Says:

      WELL, I THINK THIS IS GREAT!!!!
      NOW WE CAN STOP EVERY LAW THEY COME WITH DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

      By the way… when are you guys going to do something about these idiots??
      Or are you waiting for 2012 to solve the problem??

    26. nofreespeach Says:

      So basically the internet will be like the moderators on these forums?

      Ben Reply:

      :-)

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      yep YOU GOT IT
      oh my god, the first smart person here ffs!
      bravo

    27. sOuL-ReBeL!!! Says:

      THAT SOME SAD S**T!!!! BUT THAT WONT STOP ME FROM SPREADING THE WORD,STRAPING UP READY OR NOT HEAR IT COMES.WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUSH BACK TAKE IT BACK CUZ READY OR NOT HERE IT COMES

    28. Jett Says:

      Break out the popcorn and icecream and let the show begin!! We live in the most interesting of times. The last days are in full swing, we are living it. Dont let it get you down, just think of how you would like to be remembered when all is said and done.

    29. August Says:

      Just for reading this article you people have violated National Security Protocol and will be taken from your families, thrown on a plane blind-folded, and taken to a hidden prison to be “PROCESSED”.

      saturnx311 Reply:

      Yay!!

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      lol

    30. August Says:

      Looks like everyone in the USA will be thrown in prisons, and tortured in secret dungeons.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      nope they will be sectioned off city by city
      why you think they practicing take overs?

    31. robert,the hostile bicyclist Says:

      These morons really don’t realise that they will lose almost everything,a giant chunk of business in nearly every field,with legislation like this.
      Copyright the world,and people will just stop using it.
      The End.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      No they won’t because that familiar voice on the hypno-box will set them straight and correct the errors of their free thinking minds(.)

    32. ejc Says:

      if ignorant camel jockeys in afganistan can kill so many well trained soldiers what do you think semi-educated americans will be able to do??????????

      saturnx311 Reply:

      You are a dumb slob.

      ItIsMOStCERTAINLyTHeEND Reply:

      nothing.
      you will want it to happen to you

    33. Dicey Says:

      I guess since my nose wont be stuck in my computer all day I will get out and get some exercise and target practice! I will have time to practice throwing some hand grenade sized rocks

    34. Dicey Says:

      and ride my bike all hostile like! ^

    35. ejc Says:

      My post was deleted?? I said if ignorant camel jockeys can kill so many well trained American Soldiers what do you think semi-educated Americans are capable of doing??
      Someone needs to ask this question.

      saturnx311 Reply:

      It wasn’t deleted, idiot.

    36. Dicey Says:

      bmx backflippin’ bullseyes!

    37. Johnny Canuck Says:

      That’s why I am downloading as much stuff as I can Documentaries, PDF’s, youtubes , Survivalist manuals, how-to shit etc. If they take away our Internet, then there is no need for all those microwave towers, might as well take them out too!

      About Phuqing Time Reply:

      “there is no need for all those microwave towers, might as well take them out too!”

      It took you This Long To Reach That Conclusion?

      Working in conjunction with chemtrailing, in the modulation category, they are key components in WHY YOU are so passive.

      Get It?

      maelstrom Reply:

      what is a klystrons?

    38. alphazita Says:

      Nano Silver Hydrosol for those Europeans left out. See Bionaid at http://www.bionaid.eu, tri-oxysilver solution, covalant bond, superior to colloidal silver products. Thx :-)

    39. emmanuel jackson Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFcjsV6wZ0

    40. robin Says:

      get use to it – p.o. box and local newsletters to mailboxes (not email boxes)

    41. Seal Says:

      Who was it, and where was it written? Shakespear I believe wrote “Kill all the lawyers”.

      Well, that would be a positively-refreshing idea, but is also akin to :”…No man is an island,…etc.”

      We could use MUCH LESS “Letter of the Law…(and make PRIMARY, the)…Spirit of the Law.”

      But then as the song goes “…the thief he kindly spoke,…there are many here among us; who fear that life is but a joke! But you and I we’ve been through that and this is not our fate..let us-not talk falsely now,…the hour is getting late!….” From:All Along The Watchtower.

      Sue me mo fo…Tee he he he,…You see? Do you agree?

      Ya’all,… eh?

      Yankee-doodle went to town, riding on a beaver, stuck a pencil up that lawyer’s keester, now we’re fightin’ with the Barrister!

    42. Dick Stallion Says:

      The way to combat this would be to boycott all digital, video, and audio entertainment until THEY start to squeal with the agonizing pain of lost profits!

      insanity Reply:

      Good idea, or since editing and FX software is so cheap (some cases open source and free) we could just completely replace their media with our own, alternative, free media, free to share and distribute.

      Technology is making the banker scum’s money irrelevant. Post-scarcity is coming and they are trying to artificially stop it by stalling technological progress and dissemination. New manufacturing systems that can sit in your garage and make almost anything ALREADY EXIST. Hobbyists are making CNC systems that could compete with anything you have in a factory – check it out online. If sharing music and movie files has the NWO’s panties in a bunch, wait until people start sharing Gucci CAD files and printing out Rolex watches with their 3D printers.

      Dick Stallion Reply:

      very true…I hope more bands start to rebel against the Jews and begin producing their own music.

      Until then we can watch this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=popular

      maelstrom Reply:

      look for my Jewish Black Metal band Massada on vimeo!

    43. Salvatore Says:

      Silence is the enemy!

      Give me revolution!

    44. jerry Says:

      sweden has a pirate political party while we will get crap like this.

    45. THE REPTOID BOOGIE Says:

      i don’t see the big deal here

      insanity Reply:

      sure you don’t you were born holding your ankles so this seems only natural to you.

      US is criminalizing anything that threatens their antiquated business models. they are arresting progress and technology to protect their trashy media monopoly WORLDWIDE. They will shut you off from the internet just for downloading something copyrighted, most likely most of this will be automated and since you get no trial or due process, even if they screw up you will be shut down and mired in legal trouble for weeks, maybe months until you get it straightened out. And guess what else? Once all our money is put on plastic cards and locked into a global monetary system, they most likely will fine or shut you down in a similar manner for any number of “infractions” of their contrived laws.

      Its like in Singapore, every car has an rfid in it, you get tolled, taxed, ticketed, and fined via cameras and automated systems AS YOU DRIVE. Its coming people, its coming and the only way to stop it is boycotting all these companies, banks, and services and replacing them with local solutions. We have the technology – people are already doing it, we just need more people to join.

    46. BuckWheat Says: Says:

      Fuck Obama!
      He’s no Brother!
      He’s the “boy” of the white Bankers!

      “Shine your shoes mister Banker man?”
      “I’s will give you ALL the money you’s want, if you lets me be da president!

      If your Black, boy has he taken you for a ride!
      If your White, now you know what it is like to be Black and taken for a ride by your own kind!

    47. Randolpho Fryski Says:

      Dear Slow Learners,
      This is all old news. For those who cared, the knowledge of what is going on now is at least 100 years old. Again, listen to Alan Watt on the RBN network. He talks 5 days a week (5 pm Pacific) about what these ‘elete’ have said their plans are and how they will accomplish it. I listen on FTA satellite (RBN) but he is on the net (Republic Broadcasting Network) and on AM radio in Toronto, etc.

    48. insanity Says:

      Easy solution, just stop listening to the machine’s shitty music, watching their shitty propaganda movies, and turn off the shitty TV programming and make or watch independent, free, and creative common offered content. The more people that turn to alternative media, the better the quality will get.

      And then you don’t need to worry about their copyright nonsense. Same with open source software … there isn’t a program out there for sale that doesn’t have an open source free alternative.

      Proactively notice and shutdown the media industry. Fuck them.

      Artist Reply:

      “Easy solution, just stop listening to the machine’s shitty music, watching their shitty propaganda movies, and turn off the shitty TV programming”

      That’s the best advice in this thread.

      People, make your own content.

      Respect those who make content and expect to be paid for such. A laborer is worth his wages. An artist no less than you and your pay. If you don’t want to pay, pass the product and get on with YOUR life.

      Thank those artists who make content available from themselves for you at no charge.
      It takes a lot of work and TIME to do so.
      Appreciate them and let them know you appreciate them.
      Some could really use some $ help, to keep going. You don’t know how many have had to stop, that would have had some real diamonds for you, but had to make a living just like you and TIME being what it is, had to curtail creating what would have been good for all.

    49. Griz Says:

      Well, we better invent another language quick, because a lot of languages’ words will be copyrighted already in some damn dictionary! This isn’t a violation of free speech, it is an end to ALL LANGUAGE!

      maelstrom Reply:

      you can’t copyright single existing words or numbers. that’s why intel renamed its microprocessor series from 386 486 etc. they didn’t own the names. you can’t copyright something like “hammer” or “fire” but the way things are going they will make exceptions for corporations. trademark is when you associate a word and image, so “lightning” with a stylized lightning strike could be trademarked. stupid. time to break the law.

    50. INFRINGEALL Says:

      THE WAY TO FIGHT THIS IS TO USE PUBLIC COMPUTERS AND INFRINGE EVERYTHING.

      IF 100′S OF MILLIONS DO THIS THEY COULD NEVER REVIEW THE MATERIAL.

      NUMBERS VS. BIG CORP.

    51. 09iu Says:

      MS. Get a clue. What is your OS? Everything gets sent through the mothership in Seattle. MS. The worlds leading spy. They know EVERYTHING.

    52. Wendy Says:

      Let them shut down the Internet – all that will be left is controlled propaganda. I hate to say that since most of my income is from web design/dev, but what can ya do. We can go back to TELNET, Bulletin Boards, CB radio, HAM, pirate radio, handing out fliers, talking to people in real life again, etc. And how about BOOKS, does anyone remember how to operate one of those? Doesn’t anyone remember tech/IT of the 80’s – I.T. before it was “cool” to be a geek, before your point and click Internet and you had to type commands to get things done, before broadband – when operating a PC required a brain and real studying? But half or more of you probably don’t even know how Windows got it’s start, what DOS was or how to do anything with it, so a BBS would really have you lost. One last point to tie into what insanity said – local law enforcement recently confiscated a friend’s computer but could extract no info because the person was running Ubuntu Linux – free open source OS that actually works BETTER than windows. But it is not true there is open source alternative for ALL – show me a WYSIG as good as Dreamweaver and an open source Flash development platform. I have yet to find one. Anyway, the end of the Internet is not the end of the world, we just have to use alternative technology and create new ones.

    53. Ju Ju Eyeball Says:

      Just stop paying income tax, and all this would be over.

    54. Geo Says:

      WHAT is all this fuss about fools. If they actually impose those ridiculous rules then all anyone has to do is make content and clearly label it “copyright free” !!!! Geez, you people have no imagination. If I post a very blatant video on youtube which calls out the government on a variety of sensitive issues, and if that video starts with a notice that “this message is copyright free” then the assholes can stand on their heads an cannot prevent its dissemination. See? Problem over. Geez.

    55. Bernard Romanycia Says:

      “The snake of greed is eating it’s tail.” The copyright sham owes the individual and others billions, quad trillions, and zillions of dollars for having stolen our original quotes and ideas, that we’ve coined long before the birth of the internet. The computer Geeks and lawyers are linguistic freaks who overcharge for their bullshit services. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Is it guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty? Which system were you born into?

    56. BritneySpearsDisney666 Says:

      It’s going to come to a point where you cannot take photographs or video which features copyrighted images. Corporate logos, television footage of movies, if someone drives by your house with a song playing on their radio, and you’re video taping a birthday or family get together, and that copyrighted song from the radio is audible on your video tape, you will probably be sent to prison for 5 years and/or fined $250,000.

      I cannot imagine how the film, and music industry could actually function at any capacity in a society like this. Having signs in theaters that say “no cameras or cell phones allowed” is ridiculous enough.

      The internet would probably be permanently disabled for public use. It will only be intended for use by large corporations, law enforcement, and the government. To ensure big, excessive profits for corporations.

    57. cubsfan Says:

      The Internet has damaged the agenda of the global elite, and they’re arrogant enough to think that regulating the Internet will rebuild their reputation and allow them to build the world government, but it’s too late. The Chicago Cubs have a better chance of winning the world series than the elite have of building a world government.

      `Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall:
      Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
      All the King’s horses and all the King’s men
      Couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty in his place again.’

    58. Hal 9000 Says:

      This just happened to me this morning nov 4th 2009, I could not get past a proxy redirect screen stating that i had just violated P2P TOS with Time Warner RoadRunner in NYC, it had a link on the page to “proceed” saying that I admit (self incriminating) to the said violation. I talked my way out of it on the phone but the point is this: http://thepiratebay.org/torren.....n_DUAL_DVD is what I was uploading MY UPLOAD i re-encoded this myself to DVD from prisonplanet.tv and seeded it to about 100 people uploading 20gb myself.

      *pounds head on desk*

      maelstrom Reply:

      is RR a virtual monopoly? they need to feel the exit of customers over this kind of crap. they’re not providing internet service in the usual and accustomed sense of the term.

      Hal 9000 Reply:

      Where I live in NYC (manhattan) I dont have access to verizon FIOS yet, I can choose between DSL verizon 200-1000kbs or Time Warner 4000-12000kbs service. I have been using RoadRunner since it first came out in 1999 and before that I was using AOL 56K dialup since 1995. So yes in a way they do have a virtual monopoly on FAST internet service, although that is being challenged, it has not reached me yet. I am thinking about switching regardless since now i am being restricted to 1/5 the bandwidth i was receiving and time warner is just pure evil! I have been putting up with them for way too long.

      Also relating to your second comment, never think the same rules apply both ways, they are written to be broken!

    59. maelstrom Says:

      no breaking DRM, ok, define DRM. If a file is zipped, it’s also encrypted. If you extract the file, is that breaking DRM?

    60. maelstrom Says:

      oh hey what’s good for the goose is good for the gander I suppose. if i DRM all my docs and email and so on, NSA can’t circumvent my DRM without breaking the law. right?

    61. Mac-101 Says:

      Let’s see the US go after the RED CHINESE for strealing our industrial patents, let alone our crappy music and movies!

    62. LaughingBarry Says:

      I am going to copyright my DNA, and sue the UN for copyright infringement! :D

      *hmmmm I wonder if it were possible*

      LaughingBarry Reply:

      I.E. time to look at copyright laws, and see if there’s something of a big-brother-b-gone loophole. If you could somehow copyright yourself in some way, would the NSA having files against you be copyright infringement with these same penalties, including takedowns? :)

      Just thinking.

    63. X Says:

      “Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM”? LOL! Isn’t that prohibited now? Yet I do it nearly every Tuesday.

    64. wb Says:

      so now what? this is as in your face as it gets. what are you going to do about it america? lie down and whimper like scared dogs, or storm the gates of washington and hang thee bastards from the nearest tree? you do have a choice you know, that is unless you do enjoy getting it in the other spot below the waist.

    65. vet Says:

      We are human beings if we have survived illness wars and so much We can survive this. we have hope that people are waking up. We no what we need to survive this. We do not give our selves enough credit. look how far we have come in a 100 years amazing. ;) .

      the most important thing to do now is start to

      Stock upon food

      grow your own food

      Teach children your way.

      there will be a worldwide uprora if they do try and take the internet away. we still have books on what our ancestors tought us.

      Read about benjamin fulford he is convinced the nwo will not go through with most of there plans. As europe and america dont no how many nuckes they have. (japan and china)

      David icke says by 2016 it will come tumberling down.

      At least we have hope dont give up guys.

      god bless

    66. 322skull Says:

      Rothschild says prep them…??? http://shavemyyeti.com/index.html

    67. Amerikan Says:

      But it’s good for amerika, isn’t it? WAKE UP IGNORANT SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    68. vet Says:

      here have a look at this.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6dWGfOy2k

      please watch all 4.

      god bless

    69. Harvest Time Says:

      I need a job in Michigan I could police the internnet , I could be one of many paid to do it.

    70. charles kafka Says:

      well alex, it was a fun ride, soon it looks like we will all be in the dark.

    71. Chill Out People Says:

      Hey, this is not going to fly. In “United States vs. Sheriff Mack”, the US Supreme court decided that if the US government wants to “mandate” something, then they have to pay for the extra money that will be needed to carry out the “mandate”. The US government is *NOT* going to pay out 100’s of billions of dollars every year to ISP’s to hire all of the people needed to carry this out– so the ISP’s can simply ignore all of this sillyness.

      Meanwhile, we should bring back BBS systems– as a backup in case the Internet goes down for any reason. This can be augmented with Internet gateways, and even packet radio. Let’s get to work, people.

    72. AndyA Says:

      If they were going to do anything, it’s rather too late unless some people give them the power to do it. It’s a little like playing blind mans bluff, but you just can’t give in. Wasn’t it Tim Berners-Lee inventor of the Internet that said the Internet will never be bought or own by anyone? Didn’t he make provision for that?

    73. Darth Chaos Says:

      PETITION: LINUX IN EVERY CLASSROOM

    74. Yar Says:

      Psalm 69…69…69….69…