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Senator Karen Johnson Brings 9/11 Truth to Arizona
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July 22, 2008
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:12 am
God bless Karen Johnson. You’re going in my latest 9/11 song (others as-yet unrecorded, contact me if you live in the U.K)
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 am
“a building that falls down doesn’t pulverize itself into dust as it drops”
That’s the first time I’ve heard this exact point being made. The concrete wasn’t pulverized by the fall, but before it hit the ground!
An important new weapon in the infowar, in my view.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 am
Now its time to stand up .
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
Thank you Karen Johnson. Thank you Blair. Thank you folks for parking outside the McGangster’s office. Wasn’t John McCain one of the founders of the PNAC? Well, then, good luck getting anything out of him! If you had a real investigation, he might go to jail.
However, they don’t care if you starve yourself to death. Call for a shopping boycott–THAT will get attention. Maybe if everyone would sign a plege not to buy anything until a real investigation could be had something might get done. You have to hit the pigs on the snout with a stick, as Mark Twain said–you’ll have to hit them in the pocket book–they don’t have a heart.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:30 am
There is an overwhelming sense of injustice around the world and I can speak to that ’cause I reside in Scandinavia. The Human race needs the truth about this episode of madness. No one is ABOVE the law of the land. Dustification does not happen in a collapse, thermal energy does not hang around unless powered by something…. LOOK UP “Entropy´´! I must admit that most of my friends and associates here are educated people and they say to me personally that the whole thing was rigged to bring us to the present political debacle that we have now. I hope for the sake of future generations of people living on this beautiful planet of ours…. we can finally have and see justice being done and not hidden behind (no pun intended) the smoke screen of a “so called attack´´. Let it be known that these people must come clean or the mass of people that this issue is generating will find a way to wash you clean AND hang you out to dry!!!! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW……
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:58 am
YOU GO GIRL!!!
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 am
I was there …we even had a plane with a huge 9-11 truth banner flying around his office and the freeway ….
thx for posting this on Infowars!
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:26 am
Get away from your 9/11 witch hunts. So much ingorance from people who know nothing about how a tower is built. Have you not heard of sheet rock??? When you have a major fire about 2/3 the way up and damage to the steel structure and major heat the building is going to fall down.
Look I have major problems with Bush’s policy and I’m sure our goverment intelligence souces knew something was going to happen but we go to involved with other things and some fell asleep at the trigger and many lives were lost through men who were killing to bring chaos.
Lets stop beating ourselfs on how evil we are and blaming Bush for everything.
Yes I know about the Billerburges plot
Space Aliens and the goverment knows about them
How the Kenney and Martin Luther were killed
How we have Global Cooling and not Global Warming- Yes Al Gore is wrong!
With some of that being said stop your worthless dribbling from your mouths, use your brains and look at the video of 9/11 again; Now think about a jets fully loaded with fuel hitting a building at full power. It’s a wonder that it didn’t fall after the impact. Ooooh I forgot some of you people still think we faked the moon landing, that we can generate all of our power from wind farms or solar farms that no one wants in their backyard, that we should hate nucular power which we harnessed for the good and the evil.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 am
#8 Dario – the building was turned into complete DUST! Did you see the squibs as the building collapsed? Did you see how FAST it fell? It would not have fell at free fall speed. What happened to the core? What happended to building 7? Sheet rock? The buildings were steel structures at one point the tallest in the world! You think a fire could bring down a building? Please don’t believe the government one bit on this one.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:12 am
Thanks 1 true Lady for the real facts ,not some bullshit that jet fuel melted the steel ! I,ve worked in construction all my life concret dosn,t turn to dust from fire ! Also what happened to all the fixtures in the towers, the exteiror of this bldg. was built to stop a plane-like a sreen door on a house stops bugs. What about the engines of these planes where did they go ,they didn,t get up and run away ?If you look at the video of the second tower it looks like the plane just melted into the bldg. (no plane–drone or missle). The pentagon is the most protected bldg in the U.S. ,what happened to the anti aircraft in the area,they just took a brake for coffee ??? What happened to the lugage,bodys and so on??Where did these planes realy go ,the pilot on this plane was a former boxer do you think that a 5ft 6in. guy with a box cutter over powered him(yeah right)???Where is any of the TRUTH
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:20 am
Dario Cannon you are some asshole. My father was one of the Ironworker Foremans & I was a worker on those towers with the exception of building #7 which came later. There’s no way that jet fuel could have brought those buildings down. I can burn, arch gouge & weld & you don’t know what the hell your talking about. I have zero tolerance for assholes like you who run off at the mouth & would get us all killed. If you have death wish go slash your wrists, but don’t try & take us with you. Shamus
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
To #8 DARIO: Just in case you’re not some dis-info mole, consider these facts:
The 3 buildings that fell on 9/11 were the only steel structured buildings to ever fall due to fire. Many other buildings have burned over more floors for much, much longer. Jet fuel is basically kerosene with additonal additives to make it burn clean and efficient. Jet fuel cannot burn in open air (uncontrolled) hotter than 1200 degrees. A fire cannot heat an object beyond the temperature that the fire itself is burning at. The melting point of steel is 2700 degrees. I do understand a steel beam does not need to get to its complete melting point to sag and fail but the fact is there was molten steel present at the scene, was witnessed by firemen, and is on video. Where did that extra energy come from TO MELT STEEL? Besides the probability that most of the jet fuel combust upon impact OUTSIDE of the building, how did this ‘uncontrolled’ fire evenly heat up all the floor trusses (gov’t explanation) all the way around the perimeter of the building simultaneously so that they all failed at the exact same time so the building fell into its exact footprint? If this was a gravity induced collapse, where did the energy come to LATERALLY EJECT a 300 ton section of the building several hundred feet with enough force to embed it into another building? Does concrete SPONTANEOUSLY EXPLODE when it falls through the air?
If you can intelligently consider these points, has your viewpoint changed? We all understand it is difficult thing to consider that elements in our own government want to terrorize us. Your world view changes and this is a tough thing to do. But failing to do so only contributes to the problem. Believe it or not, but you are double thinking and regurgitating the exact spin the perpetrators of these crimes want you to do. Take some time, keep your mind open, and do the research. There is enough evidence on this site alone to make an informed decision.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
Dario… I’m not a betting man, but I’d be willing to put a sum on assuming that you have NEVER ACTUALLY EXAMINED THE ANALYSIS BY ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF SCHOLARS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, ET AL, TO SEE ALL OF THE FACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TOWARD A LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT ELEMENTS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT WERE INVOLVED TO SOME DEGREE.
It’s a FACT that the maximum heat jet-fuel could reach, even with the aid of such a missle-type impact, is 1800 C.
It is also a FACT that in order to melt the steel beams that allowed for the collapse, it would take temperatures of up to 2800 C.
So how in the HELL are you gonna tell me that they didn’t use explosives?
At ground zero, scientists found 15 different signs that demolition explosives were used- including evidence of THERMATE, which is commonly used in such demolitions.
Come on, man, you gotta at least examine these facts and see that something IS wrong here.
I know it’s hard to wrap your mind around your government doing something like this to you. It really kinds of shakes up YOUR WHOLE PERSPECTIVE ON THE WORLD AND THE WAY THINGS ARE REALLY OPERATED!
My friend, we have been decieved on such a massive scale that it is indeed frightening to even ponder. But we must be courageous; to face our own shortcomings, and then the dark empire that seeks to enlsave our Mind, Body and Soul.
I pray you gain the courage to take a closer look at the world around you, and begin to see the web of deception that has been so covertly woven.
!DTTNWO!
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
You know Dario #8, witch hunts were conducted by great ignorance too! Ignorance by the few that could not decide for themselves in the knowledge that they possessed at the time. Now we are educated by the great minds of the past; Newton was one of them. We stand on the shoulders of giants that had the grey cells to think with. So, don’t please insult us with your brush off rhetoric!!! To paraphrase with a change of direction of meaning;
“Witch hunt……HOW DARE YOU?´´
Go study some more and stop being so ignorant
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
i love you karen, god bless you . im glad to see at least someone cares and is not afraid of the murderers
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
Dario , I was a steel worker for 5 years in the 80’s . My Uncle owns a company (27 years) that builds steel
structures. I can assure that an open flame fire will not melt steel . Ask a welder or steel worker why you
need a torch to cut steel. Even if the fire had melted the supports under the floors . There is no way it could
have weakened all those huge center columns. Remember to get a collapse you would have to melt to the
point of liquifying all of the floor supports ad center columns at the same time . The center and all four corners would have to let go at the exact same time to get a straight down motion. Then, your next problem is the floors immediately under the fire( the fuel can only go so far ) . These floors at best would
weaken unevenly and collapse on the compromised side. This is going to cause the building to fall sideways, not straight down . Also, steel when heated does not break it bends (watch a video of steel being
stamped into columns or frames) . Most of all think of all the variables in the THREE BUILDINGS . There is
absolutely no way all three buildings could fall straight down . This where the perpetrators messed up
big. Physics and common sense tell you three different building with completely different variables , cannot have the same results . Different entries of the jets ( one with NO entry at all) ,different amounts
of fuel, different temperatures of fire ( building 7 had no jet fuel) , not constructed the same, different
weight loads , on and on. Straight down collapse of three separate structures is so ridiculous , it’s embarrassing .
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Our government should have said 911 was executed by pink terrorist butterfly’s. We as a nation can no longer trust what the government states because we know they have stated nonsense lies about 911 and expect us the public to believe what they say even if we know its not entirely true. Without any ability to properly investigate we are left hostage to a government that can say what it wants because they know that no one can investigate the truth to prove the truth. They control the media and can put undue pressure on anyone scientific who threatens the truth. We all know that 911 was a concocted act of Neocon terror but until we can prove it and bring the guilty to justice we will be left listening to the preposterous lies that our government spews regarding 911. Congress and our Senate are involved and as before anyone involved in such a horrific crime should be brought to justice and hanged in public for their crimes and acts of terrorism against America citizens.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
ok dario if it (The tradigy of 911 was brought down by fire and humun neglegence
why was no one prosecuted huh just wondering
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
ok dario if it (The tradigy of 911 was brought down by fire and humun neglegence
why was no one prosecuted huh just wondering
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I am sooooo sick of this ‘fire melts steel’ sh*t. Why do you think we build blast furnaces? ’cause they look pretty? Jeeeez!
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Thank god for you Senator.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Also keep in mind that the steel that supposedly was weakened by fire was covered in asbestos.
Anyways 9/11 truth is covering Arizona. I was at the county library the other day and there was “Google Truth Rising” written on the stall of the ladies’ room. I watched the movie on Google Video and it was really good.
I also saw 9/11 was an inside job stickers put all over shopping cart handles at walmart
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I was also hiking at the local mountain preserve and saw Alex Jones Infowars.com written on a trail marker. I thought it was so cool that the truth is being spread DIY style.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Dario obviously hasn’t seen the footage of the molten bright red lava RAINING down from the top floors!! THERMATE demolition charges! Dario, get hip to Steven Jones you fool! Then the firefighters mentioned molten lava running down the beams, as if they were in a FOUNDRY!! Get a grip Dario, you complete moron!
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Well done Karen!
We’ll NEVER stop!
We’ll NEVER forget!
And because we are still (and always?) living in the consequences of this scam of the century, it won’t be hard to keep remembering!
TO PUT IT MILDLY..
If other “people” prefer to live in a mixture of wish-full thinking, outright denial and government propaganda then so it will be…
JUST DON’T EXPECT ALL OF US TO MAKE THE SAME ERROR!!
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Dario Cannon – post 8 – to tell you the truth , i wasn’t going to waste my energy commenting on your , clearly delusional ‘ comment ‘ . mostly because i think you’re one of those sheeple that just likes to pretend they know something about something , when it’s clear that you know nothing about anything . but also because you’ve already taken a pretty sound kicking from many others , successfully diverting attention away from the subject matter of this thread , which may or may not have been your intent . i will say this . if you truly believe what you vomitted from the hole under your nose in your post , please back it up with some substantive evidence . most people here are looking for the truth , regardless of where that leads us . i think you’ll find that , whatever you can come up with will be fairly taken into consideration . if you can’t back it up , go away , and do some real research before you come back . if that sounds like too much work to be bothered with , i recommend that , unless you like getting abuse , don’t come back here . no ,really .
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
all you people who think you represent the truth are as ignorant as the masses you are so quick to call sheep. anyone with a semi-functional brain knows that in a conspiracy, flaws are always put out in the open for other to find, leading to even more falseness. in the long term, the 9/11 Truth Movement hasn’t made any real positive change. All it’s doing is further distracting people from what is actually important.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
WE ARE WINNING!!
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Anyone that looks into 9/11 honestly, can not possible agree with the official story. You would have to be a little retarded.
I went into 9/11 as a strong Republican (Still am), when I first watched some videos, I thought Garbage BS……but the more and more and more you go into it, its IMPOSSIBLE.
Even a Right Wing type of guy like me can see that.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:54 pm
11:11 is real – post 28 – ok dude , let’s here it . that’s why i’m here and i’m guessing that’s why most others are here . what is actually important ?
July 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I am happy to see this wonderfull Senator talking about 911……as for the dude who is “fasting”…..
Not real smart.
Why punish yourself for the crimes of the genocidal Zionist maniacs?
If you are going to starve someone, make it a Neo Con.
July 22nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Beautifully Put! A Stateswoman in action.
It will be the women and foreign born citizens of the USA that are instrumental in saving us.
July 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Yesterday, the cell phone of a woman I work with rang. As it rang, her electric stapler stapled. We called the phone again and the same thing happened. Repeated attempts failed, but I saw with my own two eyes that the stapler activated, twice. Not only that, but the two spent staples were right there, bent into their closed shape. I have worked with phones and staplers for years and I “know” that phones can’t set of staplers. Yet it did.
I realize that there are people who are active in the fields of structural design and construction, and their expertise, however limited or expansive it may be, is certainly undeniable. Yet, being as critical and skeptical as they are, it seems they are neglecting other unknown factors. I once recieved what was supposed to be 440C stainless steel. Metrological examination determined that it was composed of approximately 15% magnesium, an element not normally found in stainless steel. Had it not been for this metrological evaluation, I would have assumed that the steel was exactly what I had expected to recieve. I have recieved 2,000 pound cast aluminum parts which have been filled with voids and bubbles inside of the casting. Without radiological examination it is impossible to tell what the integrity of the casting might be. In the medical industry we require such testing to be performed and documented. If I don’t have data assuring me of the quality of a part I cannot accept it. I find it funny that these people with first-hand experience in such fields are willing to accept that the components used to build the towers was of the quality described by designers and builders. These temperatures that are thrown around as though they are exact seem to make no consideration of the fact that the composition and quality of the steel matters. I’d be interested to see the radiological and metrological data for the beams used in the towers, but I doubt any was performed.
July 22nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
German 911 Documentary: “911 False Flag”
The language of this documentary is mainly German with English subtitles.
This documentary focuses on the inconsistencies in the official version of the events as well as on the evidence which has been suppressed regarding September 11th. In addition, it answers the questions of why we still know nothing about it to this day and why we are being deceived – also in european countries.
http://100777.com/node/1838
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
She will not be reelected. She will suddenly find “irregularities” with the voting machines and will lose a close race kicking her out of office forever. Just my 2 cents of fortune telling when a US politician speaks out.
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Connick, now who is the “conspiracy theorist?” You are asking us to believe that all of those columns in the WTC (both towers) were somehow jerry rigged by incompetent steel workers who just happened to adulterate the steel with some other metal? This adulteration being responsible for all columns to fail simultaneously?
If you watch this video of the construction of the towers, I think you will see how ludicrous that theory is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f01nkIs8C0E
Even supposing that some columns were deficient, the construction of the towers were such that other columns would bear the load. The men who built these towers were not fools, even if some of those watching them come down are.
Let’s look at some facts:
1) there was an FBI-backed attempt to destroy the towers in 1993–(google it–its in the mainstream news–I believe the guy’s name was Salem who worked for the FBI.
2) The perps of 9/11 rushed all the steel to China where it was promptly melted down. They kept GPS positioning on each truck as it carried the “scrap metal” to be disposed of. One worker who took more than an hour for lunch was promptly summoned and fired–and please don’t tell me it was because an accountant was worried about that extra 15 minutes.
This cowardly destruction of evidence is hardly the action of someone trying to determine the cause of a crime, accident, or whatever. But, quite reasonable if a person is trying to cover up a crime.
3) The towers were made to withstand multiple hits by multiple planes loaded with multiple fuel. It is just a fact.
4) The alternative theory is just too ridiculous to be believed; namely that collapsing steel-framed buildings pulverize. Some fool asked about sheetrock–sheetrock my rear end. One fireman said EVERYTHING WAS PULVARIZED and the largest part of anything found was a small mouthpiece of a telephone. Yeah, gravity was really strong that day.
Now, our choices seem to be:
a) those crappy steel workers and architects just couldn’t get it right
b) boy kerosene (jet fuel) burns a lot hotter than previously imagined
c) Allah suspended the laws of physics for his loyal Muslim jihadist who snorted cocaine and enjoyed lapdances at topless bars –thus steel beams were blown into the sides of other buildings when the “gravity” blew up and pulvarized evrything in the towers so that everything fell at the speed of gravity totally unimpeded by anything like floors, desks, or STEEL COLUMNS holding up the building. Said miracle makes the parting of the Red Sea seem very petty.
OR
d) maybe there were bombs in the buildings when the buildings came down
Now a-d seems to be the gist of the official conspiracy theory. And to believe in d) would be silly and would require that you believe all of those firemen and other eye witnesses such as Rodriquez who actually reported explosions in the basement before the planes hit. You know how witnesses are…hundreds and hundreds of witnesses are just anecdotal. You can’t believe eye witnesses, any of them.
But as long as there is no INDEPENDENT investigation, we won’t know, will we? All the families of those who died is asking for is a day in court–a day to cross examine witnesses, a day to make people tell what they knew and when they knew it. Why are you against that Connick? No one is asking anyone to determine without a doubt–they just want a decent hearing–not one run by Bush’s buddies–which is what the first one was. A FAIR TRIAL CONNICK. What have you got against that?
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Why do some people take such pains to disprove what a very brave lady is trying to reveal for their sakes!
It is really sad !
Try finding out why there are so many plastic coffins manufactured and hidden from the public. Google it and then comment “Phoenix”. We should not be trying to discredit one another but rather trying to get to the truth before it is too late!
Wake up!
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Beautifully said. Congrats to her. More people with public positions need to speak up. As always.
One thing that gets very little attention is the hit on the Pentagon. To me, that is the most damning aspect for the official story. Come on, its the Pentagon and the only surveillance(?) is an elapsed-time camera in a parking lot booth. Seriously, they could tell you how many times birds shit on the lawn each day. So why can’t we see the airliner that slammed into it, and made an unusually small and deep hole through it.
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:53 pm
can you believe the Senator speaker for saying, at the end of her wonderful and superbly constructed submission to the Senate, “you know, we don’t permit applause in the gallery…”?! what a tool.
And to Arrius, great comment:
“It will be the women and foreign born citizens of the USA that are instrumental in saving us.”
July 22nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
doughlife baby im hopeless
July 22nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
what up is this senator crazy or what
July 22nd, 2008 at 7:56 pm
i think the senator on drugs
July 22nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm
connick – post 34 – let me see if i understand you . you are suggesting that the steel in the towers was substandard in the exact positions required to cause them to fall symetrically at freefall speed due to fire and be pulverised into dust ? both of them ? ok , even if we disregard ALL of the other evidence ( eye witness testimony , building 7 , complete incompetence , at best , from the most sophisticated military in the world , scientific evidence of the use of explosives etc etc ) don’t you think that would be extremely suspect in and of itself ? if you owned those buildings , wouldn’t you be the least bit curious as to how that could happen ? wouldn’t you demand an investigation into the incompetent and neglectful actions of those responsible for their construction ? wouldn’t you be outraged at the immediate destruction and removal of forensic evidence before a formal investigation had been conducted ? wouldn’t you question why this had never happened before ? it’s good not to take anything on face value . it’s good to consider all possibilities before crying conspiracy . that means your making an honest evaluation of the facts . however , it borders on insanity to cling to a theory that has holes you could fly an airliner through ( unlike the pentagon ) , in the face of overwhelming , factual evidence to the contrary . do some real research . there’s nothing like looking when you need to find something .
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Connick , That analogy was very pacifying , and extremely general . Were all the materials , in all three buildings substandard . Or just the steel. Or, just the concrete, Or , just the welding , Or, maybe it was the
asbestos insulation, …..In all three buildings. You are forgetting the most important thing. All three
buildings fell straight down. It shows purpose. Too many variables to get a straight down collapse of three
separate buildings, substandard materials or not.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Alex Jones I have a question for you. Why are these message boards censored?. I post comments that sometimes get posted and sometimes go down the memory hole. Its really very disturbing that someone who claims to care so much about free speech and internet freedom doesn’t want it on his own web site. I have noticed that comments calling for violence and mayhem by yahoos and provocateurs have no trouble posting but thoughtful analysis that goes to the highest levels of the NWO and actually names names gets censored. I have also had articles flagged for moderation and then censored for no apparent reason, no foul language or calls for violence, just truth. Shame on you Alex. I expected so much more from you but I guess the rumors are true, you are just like everyone else out there, $$$$$$. If you are going to host a message board with limits on subject matter you really should post those limits and regulations pertaining to comments. Its disgusting to have someone sit in the back room and censor comments, something Faux News would do. Over the years I have handed out thousands of your movies on tape and then DVD but no more, whats left will go in the trash. You are a fake Alex.
Have a nice day.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 am
Hey #9. no point discussing facts and physics with #8 Dario. He’s a dumbass too lazy to do the research. This dipshit would argue with professor, Steven Jones as well. Ask Boner Boy if he ever heard of thermite and thermate or ribbon-cutting charges (photos show were used at the columns at the foundation) How about RDX explosives? Don’t waste another word on this ignoramus.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 am
Hey Douglife, go back to your Fix News and CNN. You’re in the dark,twit.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 am
Connick: Does shit stink? Jesus H. Fuckin’ Christ!!!!! Go take a nap in an autoclave and call it a motherfuckin’ day!!!! Man you’re getting beat the fuck up here on this page!!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 am
Dario Cannon, you know squat. Buildings, including the twin towers (before 9/11 and the other false flag bombing) have burned for hours and never once, not once have they fallen. You sir, are a MORON!
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 am
Bobincolorado,
Thanks for seeing what I have been telling these people! Yes, they will post things like your post that I am repling to, here and the infowarsheeple will say, “well, I see your post made it, jerk”.
People, don’t be sheep, take what can be backed up and go your own way, do not follow, don’t be sheep!!!!
Otherwise, have a good day
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 am
@Number 8
I was also a structural engineer, and in my book there is no way the towers would fall that way. Even if there was the slightest chance of the towers collapsing due to the fires, they would not collapse in a free fall way. At best the towers would topple over at the point of inpact and where most heat was generated. And just incase there was a remote chance of the floors giving way, again, there would be a point at where the building slides to one side due to resistance.
Anyway 3 building on the same day says it all really doesn’t it.
Like i said before, people just bury their heads and expect the problems to be sorted by someone else. There are so many intelligent dumb ass people out there.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:18 am
Way to go Karen Johnson, now go show the beloved Ron Paul.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 am
At one point in my life I was an eternal optimist. I “believed” things because I was told by authorities that they were true. Then one day…that ended. I had begun researching the levee detonations that followed Katrina (can you fathom that our government would stage explosions to harm people? On this site I would hope so.) After numerous phone calls to police, Attorneys, lawyers, government officials, dozens of media and more in New Orleans and nationwide…..I was paid a visit by 3 Homeland Security Agents that said if I didn’t stop causing trouble(investigating) the events surrounding the levee detonations that they would kill me and my entire family. And this was my only warning. My optimism died that day.
I had discovered information about a company called CDI, Controlled Demolition Inc that had been brought into New Orleans by ACEngineers and Joe Allbaugh from Blackwater. Mr. Allbaugh was also head of FEMA during 911. Since my research regarding media involvement, government, politicians, law enforcement, legal, religion, Humane Society, Red Cross I have discovered something horrible and mind numbingly horrific. What is it? It is the fact that everything we have been told by “authorities to believe’ is all a complete criminal lie. All of it.
Rigged elections, staged events for war, bribed and conspired law enforcement and legal system, corporate owned and manipulated media at every turn, murdered and suicided instigators, bogus trials and charges, criminal politicians from blackmail to extortion, millions on legal drugs to kill us and millions more incarcerated from drugs that never have…….the line of items is extensive.
I have come to only one conclusion. Leave this country. Many Germans left before during and after WWII that cared very deeply about their country. That never meant they disliked their country they simply despised what it had become. The US is not dealing with a few bad apples, we are dealing with the fact that EVERY SINGLE TREE is rotten to the core. That means it’s time to leave. Never pay US taxes and get out as quickly as you can. From what I have heard in the bible even that creator came down and killed everyone once he saw how horrific things had become. Maybe that is just the solution. Clean slate……
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:08 am
where did the 6 ton engines go of the plane that hit the pentagon?
the official story of the 4th plane is that it CRASHED THROUGH the soil?? planes do not go THROUGH SOIL/ground…, EVER
>> watch ‘hoodwinked in shanksville’ on video google com
why was the steel shipped off immediately?
try this, take out a record insurance policy on your house, and have it burn down a month later, and see how many months you are investigated by the insurance company ….. thats what happened on 9/11 (amongst other things)
why was NO MENTIONED made of WTC7 in the 9/11 commissions report?
why are hundreds of engineers, physicists (myself included) and architects say , AT LEAST LET US HAVE A REAL investigation….
and what about the 1000’s of firemen and workers who are now sick and dying!!
START TO GIVE A #####
Love God,
love people
fear no one but God,
act now,
God bless,
Steve
stevenbatman AT gmail.com
http://www.cuttingedge.org
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:47 am
Steve….it’s all a lie. All of it. When a truthful person like yourself tries to understand you will hit a wall. All logic and reference will disappear. When asking where are the 6 ton engines from the plane at the Pentagon….you have hit the wall. There was no plane…it was a lie. When you ask how can a plane crash through soil….again….a truthful person was fed a lie. Why was the steel shipped off immediately? It wasn’t…..again…another lie. It was taken to CDI’s smelting plant that they had just bought located one hour outside NYC. The reason the “evidence” was destroyed so quickly was so that truthful people like you could never unprove the lie. Why no mention of WTC 7 in the 911 Commission? The commission is a lie, set up by the liars, to give lies about what happened. By reading and trying to comprehend anything that comes out of that commission is a complete waste of time. Why did they never mention it? See no evil, hear no evil, allows them to speak no evil. Point being…why even mention it since a huge majority of the US public has never even heard of it or simply denies it even took place. (I have a friend of mine that refuses to even watch the video of the collapse because he thinks it was a staged video?!)
Any more investigations would simply produce more lies. You already know what happened on 911. That was the day the US died. Do you really need an authority figure to tell you that?
Lastly you write: Love God, love people, fear no one but God, act now, God bless
That’s nice except I have heard this exact phrase from others like GHWBush, GWBush, Rice, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Whittman, Giuliani……maybe that statement is the biggest lie of all?
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 am
John – post 55 – john , there is really nowhere to go . i live in the uk and trust me , it’s no better here than you’ve got it there . the way i see it , there are only 2 options . you either prepare the best way you can , or go along to get along . there’s really nowhere to hide . personally i recommend the former .
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:15 am
Hey Bob in Colorado. Sometimes messages just don’t get posted. It’s cyber computer technical error. You’re wrong about Alex! He’s 4 REAL! Don’t cross over to the dark side! Don’t vote for either candidate this year. They’re both traitors to this country by supporting the illegal alien invasion. Build a wall and deport them all. Illegal alien cockroaches are destroying this country and the govt. will do absolutely nothing about it, which is why local govts. are picking up the pieces. There will be a new civil war concerning this illegal alien parasite invasion. Illegal alien gang members are killing American citizens, raping American women, and commiting a host of other crimes against us. They have no respect for this country or humanity. They abuse animals. PLEASE BUILD A WALL AND DEPORT THEM ALL!!!!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
Why won’t Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich say this?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I applaud her courage and honesty. If only more congressmen and women will follow her lead…
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Power to Mrs. Johnson!
Beat the international bankers at their own game……
http://www.becomericher.info
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
truthers need to ban togather, make a list of approved vendors and wholesalers, stores, service providers etc, hit them with our spending power. BOYCOTT PROGRAMS THAT HAVE UNTRUTH ADVERTISING, AND STICK TO IT. Make a webpage where you can show your true colors of who you support locally and spread the word. Track these companies indexes and lets hurt their bottom line for dealing in lies. The sheep will follow where led, contact me. Web programmers, reporters, investigators, editors, no dead weight, founding members, all who volunteer must take a personal oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
Unite, regulate, implement, achieve.
http://www.petitiononline.com/.....ition.html
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
KUDOS TO KAREN!!!!! I’m proud she is one of our elected officials here in arizona. It’s about time the people we put in office took a stand against the elitists. Buy your guns and ammo now before it’s too late. Get ready for martial law…coming soon to a city near you. Be prepared so we can let our grandchildren and their children have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness guaranteed by our constitution. After all…WE ARE THE PEOPLE. God bless Alex Jones and the americans who are protecting our rights
July 24th, 2008 at 9:30 am
George Nelson
Colonel, USAF (ret.)
AKA, Lone Eagle
Tips for identifying disinformation artists.
1. The first and foremost sign that an Internet poster is a disinformation
artist is abusive language. A shrill tone that attacks a person rather
than a theory is a bad sign. So also are terms of abuse for a theory
rather than a person. An example: “The nuts who push the lunatic
no-757-at-the-Pentagon theory are probably off their meds.”
2. Excessive zeal in attempting to take an option off the table is another
bad sign. Suppose, for instance, that someone thinks they have identified
a particular type of engine at the Pentagon. Attempts to close the
discussion without exploring all possible alternatives (retrofitted part,
salted evidence, etc.) indicates an agenda of throwing serious researchers
off the track.
3. Calls for unity in the Truth Movement as a basis for failure to pursue
a line of inquiry are another bad sign. There is no Truth Movement. All
sorts of figures waltz into the discussion calling themselves members of
the Truth Movement, and then attempt to limit discussion based on a plea
for unity. Example: “We can all agree that all three WTC towers were
brought down by demolition charges. But any attempt to identify the
explosives as possibly nuclear, thermite/thermate, RDX etc. is just
divisive. In the interests of unity in the Truth Movement, we must stop
speculating about exactly what type of means may have been used to bring
down the building.” The fallacy of this approach should be apparent. The
use of micronukes, for instance, would open up new vistas for
investigation. If there is any evidence for such use, attempting to sweep
this off the table is a bad sign.
4. Any use of threats is a bad sign. If one’s case cannot stand on its own
merits, use of threats is a sign of an agenda different from that of a
search for the truth.
5. It must be remembered that the stakes in the information game are the
highest possible. Our perceptions of the world determine our strategies in
dealing with the world. Throughout human civilization, there have been
highly successful, integrated programs to make masses of people act
contrary to their actual interests through the presentation of false
pictures of the world. Those pictures must be reinforced by multiple,
apparently independent sources, who in turn expect a share of the profits
from the deception. Those profits typically include security from injury,
financial profit, sexual domination, status, rank, land, etc. The losing
side in the propaganda war, whether they are called heretics or lunatics,
may expect precisely the opposite outcome.
6. It must be emphasized that this process can be regarded as a game. It
is a deadly serious game, but a game nonetheless. One is not insulting
someone if one comes to the conclusion that this person is a conscious
disinformation agent. A helpful analogy would be that of a football
huddle. If one notices someone with the wrong color jersey in your huddle,
the fact must be noted and corrected. Nothing personal. He is just on the
wrong team, and our own team needs its privacy and trust to deliberate
effectively…..
July 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This Senator Karen Johnson and her $165,000 a year salary is a discredit to the worderful website.
What happened on 9/11 the true authorship of the attacks is as difficult to establish as anything else about the world of international terrorism and espionage.
I know some of the truth was covered so that we would not look like we were caught with our pants down and few have a idea of all the elements that happened. We are mear pauns being used by the chess grandmasters of the worlds political machine.
The attacks on the USA on September 11 2001 were part of a web of mis-information that involved hedge funds, oil, drugs, money, illiteism, and the American Public being directed into believing what the Goverment wanted us to believe.
The most important conspiracy theory about 9/11 rarely gets mentioned by writers like Brooker and Phillips. In the invasion of Iraq, the White House made every effort to link Saddam Hussein to al-Quida, he did have weapon of mass destrution “Mustard Gas that he used on the Kurds” to his atomic research and yellow cake that was found to be sent to Muslim Sleeper Cells in Canada before the War started.
Many people work to manipulate the American public and the global public through protest like this 9/11 Truth Rising Joke. Are we willing to believe that sophisticated conspiracies exist and that they are sometimes extremely important drivers of events? Maybe but lets stop wipping ourselves and get Senator’s like Karen Johnson to bed and out of office wasting out tax dollars.
And while elements in the American state angle for another war in the Middle East, Melanie Phillips and Charlie Brooker will doubtless continue to heap scorn on an irrational public. Which seems a little, well, paranoid, under the circumstances with people under the drug of 9/11 Truth Rising rotten waste not fit for man nor beast.
July 25th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Alex Jones I have a question for you. Why are these message boards censored?. I post comments that sometimes get posted and sometimes go down the memory hole. Its really very disturbing that someone who claims to care so much about free speech and internet freedom doesn’t want it on his own web site. I have noticed that comments calling for violence and mayhem by yahoos and provocateurs have no trouble posting but thoughtful analysis that goes to the highest levels of the NWO and actually names names gets censored. I have also had articles flagged for moderation and then censored for no apparent reason, no foul language or calls for violence, just truth. Shame on you Alex. I expected so much more from you but I guess the rumors are true, you are just like everyone else out there, $$$$$$. If you are going to host a message board with limits on subject matter you really should post those limits and regulations pertaining to comments. Its disgusting to have someone sit in the back room and censor comments, something Faux News would do. Over the years I have handed out thousands of your movies on tape and then DVD but no more, whats left will go in the trash. You are a fake Alex.
Have a nice day.
July 26th, 2008 at 5:23 am
What a woman! I hope she doesn’t get assassinated like Senator Paul Wellstone. luciferian butt rapists are probably seething with plots of revenge!
July 26th, 2008 at 5:31 am
See Youtube.com, Kay Griggs for more info.
July 26th, 2008 at 8:24 am
ive got doubts about this sites motives. not only are comments censored, the text advertisement links in blue on the site, in particular the windows error cleaning thing are known spyware ! why is alex jones site promoting a spyware/malware product ? even if ur site needs ad revenue, you should at least make sure ur site viewers are being tricked into downloading that crap . i already wrote alex jones and no one ever replied
July 26th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Tomw plz stop posting your sad pathetic “business opportunity” on these pages and go away.
We are NOT here for YOU to make a buck off of us..
July 27th, 2008 at 2:00 am
@ 72
So what is your point? Does that relate to the knight’s templar bankers and rosicrucians?
“Although there is little historical information on the “tugenbund banking-cult,” we do know that they were a small group heavily evolved in the occult, and primarily connected with the jewish-sect known as the”Shabbatian-Frankists.” (Kabbalah by Gershom Scholem)”- Lucifer’s Children by Milan Martin p.42
“The gnostic theology of the shabbatean Movement, which they called the “holy faith”, was quite similar to Manichaeism, and caused them to be hated by Orthodox Judaism, who called the Shabbatean disciples “heretical degenerates”- Lucifer’s Children by Milan Martin p.47-48
“The Shabbateans were heavily involved in hallucinogenic drugs (Zoroastrian haoma), spiritualism, and Kabbalistic black magic, which they freely utilized to wreak vengeance on their orthodox Jewish persecutors.”- Lucifer’s Children by Milan Martin p.48
July 27th, 2008 at 11:59 am
what bugs me most about 9/11 was a picture i saw of a beautiful young girl leaning with her hand on the steel netting on one of the floors that took the intial impact. she was wearing white slacks and had blonde hair. they could have tried to throw her a rope from a helicopter. i thought they said the steel was so hot that it it caused the beams to weaken. does anyone know who she might be. also, Kevin Cosgrove, who was talking on the phone with a dispatcher. He was on one of the upper floors and seemed to be doing ok, when all of a sudden there was an explosion and all you heard were screams. my heart goes out to the families.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Guess how many people inside WTC 1 after the attack reported the smell of jet fuel? None. Guess how many people after the attack inside WTC 2 reported the smell of jet fuel? None. Guess how many people outside the WTC and before the collapse reported the smell of jet fuel? None. After the collapse of WTC 1 guess how many thousands of responders, fireman, police, workers, employees, city officials, clergy, news, media, TV, producers, citizens reported the smell of jet fuel? None. After the collapse of WTC 2 AND for the next 3 MONTHS at ground zero, guess how many people reported the smell of jet fuel? None. Guess how many of the HUNDREDS of people at the crash site in Shanksville PA reported the smell of jet fuel? None. Guess how many reported the smell of jet fuel at the Pentagon? None….although DOZENS of former military and workers inside the Pentagon reported the overwhelming smell of EXPLOSIVES, and one was an explosives expert!!!!!
If there is one thing about an air crash regardless of how big or extensive the explosion is…..is the remaining AND OVERWHELMING smell of jet fuel for days and weeks afterward. That has been a constant at every air crash since the Wright Brothers flew planes. Even if the plane crashes in the biggest fireball ever seen and then plunges into the water…..the smell of jet fuel IS EVERYWHERE.
To re-cap…….on 911…..jet fuel before, during, and after the crash of the WTC’s was reported by not a single person. NONE. In PA not one person mentioned the overwhelming smell that would be present. At the Pentagon not one worker, fireman, witness, employee, contractor, victim, former active service, government office, police, FBI, CIA, FEMA, DEA, NIST, 911 Commission…..not ONE HUMAN BEING mentioned the smell of jet fuel?
NONE……but remember the planes were real?
July 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Mayor White of Cleveland, Ohio said that 200 people got off flight 93 at Cleveland-Hopkins International Airport. They were evacuated from the plane because of some so-called bomb threat. The 200 were taken to the NASA hanger there and were not reboarded on 93. THE PLANE WENT BACK EAST OVER PENNSYLVANIA WITHOUT PASSENGERS. You can Google this and get more info about just how ruthless this ruse really was.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Oh, and, by the way, if you count all the people from all four planes it comes up to 198 people. It seems probable, if what Mayor White said was true, that the passengers from all four planes were board ONLY on flight 93 and flown to Cleveland to face God knows what.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:24 am
Thank you, Senator Karen Johnson for supporting the 9/11 Truth Movement! You are very courageous. I hope other public officials like yourself join this movement and speak out for 9/11 truth. Thanks again!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Post #65 says it all.
Now Ms Karen Johnson – Go back to your doctor and have him change your medication. The
9/11 Truth Movement has taken you into a political witch hunt which is turning you into a Red Blood Communisteoooo LOL… There is so much ignorance but because Ms Karen Johnson is paid $165,000 plus a year for being a AZ senitor is no excuse for her treasonous actions.
Peace out, DC
August 1st, 2008 at 3:03 am
@ 80 ERADICATE powers of darkness!
Thought provoking!