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Senator Lindsey Graham in open denial of scientific proof of 9/11 treason
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911 Blogger
October 12, 2009
Below is some of what a representative in Senator Graham’s DC office told me on October 1st in response to my further inquiry into the Senator’s acknowledgment and response to the information we gave him and he willingly accepted to take a look at. http://www.911blogger.com/node/20578
At first contact, his office refused to say he had looked at the information. Now they have admitted he has reviewed the information but is still sticking with the 9/11 Commission Report, scientific evidence to the contrary be damned and his oath not withstanding.
Now, Senator Graham is adding an amendment to the appropriations bill that reads in part: “None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available for the Department of Justice by this Act may be obligated or expended to commence or continue the prosecution in (a civilian) court of the United States of an individual suspected of planning, authorizing, organizing, committing or aiding the attacks on the United States and its citizens that occurred on September 11, 2001.”
He hopes to reinforce the Military Commissions Act that he helped craft in dealing with the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks and the Global War on Terror. A severe and telling irony in all this is that a core concern that Graham expresses is the protection of classified information. Meanwhile, I as an everyday American citizen have access to open scientific evidence that helps point in the proper direction to the true architects of the 9/11 black op murders, have given this to the Senator in the open on the record, and he persists in willful denial of the facts of the matter and what they mean.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Senator Graham should consider whether those that give “comfort” to the enemies of the United States of America and its Constitution, and the murderers of the people of this country and the world by denying overwhelming scientific evidence should also be tried in Military Commissions. I would opt for open criminal cases in federal court, where evidence can be known, analyzed and weighed not only by a jury and a judge but by all interested people in the world. Are you with or against the terrorists Senator Graham?
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Senator Graham’s representative: “He believes what was written in the 9/11 Commission and nothing more.”
Jeremy Rothe-Kushel: “And so he thinks the science is wrong, the science that we handed to him? He’s had scientific advisors tell him that the science is wrong?”
SGR: I’m not saying the science is wrong. I’m just saying that he believes that the planes that flew into the World Trade Centers were the only things that brought them down.”
JRK: “And how does he think that this high-tech explosive made its way into the dust of the World Trade Center? Does he have an explanation for that?”
SGR: “No he does not.”
JRK: “So basically he’s operating in denial of science as it stands today, the leading edge of scientific proof about how our fellow citizens were killed on that day?”
SGR: “If you want to put it that way.”
JRK: “And did he look at the–because we also included a packet from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, it was 850 of them now that point out the very obvious evidence that those buildings did not just collapse from the fires. Did he look at that too?”
SGR: “Yes.”
JRK: “And so he thinks all those 800 architects and engineers are wrong?”
SGR: “Uh, he doesn’t think they’re wrong, he just thinks–I mean he’s not going to change his opinion. His opinion thus far is agreeing with the 9/11 Commission. Until something else comes out that changes that, that’s what he believes.”
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October 12th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
[DAMN-IT-ALL-TO-HELL]
The ENTIRE NATION is in “OPEN DENIAL”, concerning 911.
“________________________________”, concerning thier-own salvation.
Huh, [GO FIGURE]
JaneTheCarpenter Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
What is the punishment for treason???
CC Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
FUCK OBAMA AND SENATOR GRAHAM,
god Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
senator graham is a giant peice of shiat. hes lucky there are electronic voting machines in south carolina.
juror13 Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Let him expose himself…When the time comes, WE WILL COME 4 HIM as well!
yango Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Senator Gooey Graham. I never liked this guy guy hes kind of a gooey plum.
fatbstrd Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
luck had nothing to do with it.
FACTS Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Keep doing your “peaceful demonstrations” and talking bullshit. ONLY a REVOLUTION has ANY HOPE of CHANGING MATTERS. You “peaceful demonstrators” are literally insane!
Some Dude Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Set it off then gangsta….
Him Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 2:02 am
If we strike first they will use that to get the rest of the public on their side calling use terrorists. But if we protest and are treaded unconstitutionally people we sympathize with our cause and see the light.
fatbstrd Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
they have been drawing first blood for years. ask the browns or weaver.
RJB Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
If WE strike first?
How is THAT even possible, considering the number of times they have struck, and how many thousands of Americans, and millions of non-americans, are now DEAD as a result.
World wars have been started on less that what has already been dished out, and some people still think we are waiting for the first punch to be thrown.
Are you in a coma?
THE WATCHER Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
FUCK OBAMA and ESPECIALLY FUCK SENATOR ARLEN SPECTER, WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION COVER UP!
free me Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Whether they believe it, or not, they are, truly, @$#%^ed, to put it mildly, cause they are headed to a pit that has no exit door. [Unless they find a "Damascus Road"]
jeffohio Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 5:33 am
Send GOOBER back to Mayberry and put him to work at that phony gas station!
Can’t the good people of SC vote him out?
fatbstrd Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
electronic voting , no paper trail, you do the math.
Sid Syd Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I can’t. Diebold won’t give me the numbers!
AL Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
Art Carvajal Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
There were no planes…
but holograms.
^Shill alert^ Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am
WHOOOP WHOOOP, WHOOP WHOOP!!!
Keith Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
It seems Mr Graham isn’t aware that 60% of this hand picked bunch of liars don’t even agree
with their the results of their own staged commission. SC think you can do better than this ?
oldnamvet Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
This sweet boy is a ferry who is looken for barney jew frank.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 10:34 am
He’s the daughter his parents always wanted. Lindsey. As George Carlin said, “Soft names make soft people.”
akachristian Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
PUNISHMENT FOR TREASON………..JUST GOOGLE…..OR WIKIPEDIA….GEEZ…IT’S NOT THAT HARD TO GET ANSWERS BRAINIACS!
http://www.bing.com/search?FOR…..treason%3F
dick a racist for lunch Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
It’s hard to take…
When a cue ball strikes an object ball, the object ball flies backwards, as anyone can prove on a pool table, right?
No, not right, but I choose to believe it does, because the bowling pro at my poolhall says so, and he is right most of the time. Besides he is the bowling pro.
Fire melts steel at 1600 degrees, but it never happened in a Steel Mill (that ever made any money or steel).
Concrete is pulverized when it collapses, except when it is a concrete bridge or structure other than the World Trade Center.
The bowling pro says so. And He’s right more often than not.
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:56 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
Chris B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:17 am
there was evidence you liar.
http://www.popularmechanics.co…..ht77debris
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Chris….it was shown and never allowed to be verified. The FBI in 2008 said it verified NOTHING with regards to the “planes” of 911 because “we all saw it on TV”…and “we had no reason to question what we were shown?!”
GE, the top US military contractor, who owns NBC showed you the images of 9-11. It was from those very images that GE has recieved $500 Billlion in military and bailout money BECAUSE of 9-11. Just because it was shown to you doesnt mean you never have to verify it physically. Thats why we test blood for the type and do autopsies etc.
Not one single piece has ever been verified from any of the 4 planes from 911. twncpcone
Art Carvajal Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Chris B must be one of these freaking moles screwing around deception, and BS just in case if sticks…telling to somebody to check ‘facts’ in popular mechanics exposed this creep assole !! Popular Mechanics is a magazine to ‘debunk’ all the conspiracies in the internet..the problem is they lie big time !! Propaganda and tool for the the power elite, the New World Order.
Chris B Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Yea, I must be a mole part ofthe NWO agenda. wrong. wrong. wrong. I am simply an Amercan citizen searching for the truth.
bob the builder Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:52 am
The penalty for treason is usually death. However this guy is not guilty of treason. He is guilty of Misprision of Treason.
Misprison of Treason is when you know something treasonous has taken place (the evidence provided to him) and takes no action. I think its life in prison for a misprision charge.
lastword Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Actually he has taken action to obstruct justice in this treasonous case with his provision in the defense appropriations bill. Therefore he is now guilty of treason because he has taken action. treasonous action.
fatbstrd Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
oh he is taking action. aiding and abeding conspirators warrants a good old fashion hanging, i will bring the beer.
Hologram5 Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
I got the rope…
WitchDoctor Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 2:42 am
The greatest threat to the New World Order and these puppet politicians is not a revolt by the people. The Greatest threat to all existence in this world is a pissed off biochemist. We only need one to bring this entire world as we know it to the end. These politicians are so narrow minded they fail to see that we the people had enough and we will take our country back. Ted Kaczynski showed the world what one man can do with a little knowledge. Imagine if he had the ability to create a strain of swine flu that produces its own cyanide. Such viruses do exist, this I know for a fact because I am a biochemist
jerseygirl Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Let it go through the vents at the next Bilderberg meeting.
illegalhunter Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Death Penalty
webprowler Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:05 am
DEATH !
tombstone Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Death is the punishment for treason.
women deny everything at first Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:35 am
I told a woman that Obama had gay sex, she refused to believe me till I showed her sinclairs testimony that he did in fact have gay sex with Obama. Then another woman doesn’t believe me her son would soon be going to the middle east to fight a fake war, he left a month later for the middle east. Had a poll, only 2 percent of women on a poll thought the media didn’t tell them everything and the truth, but 89 percent of men said they knew the media told them lies and hid the truth. Wonder if some of those men were actually women. haha
So she won’t believe the Government was in on the attack and actually planned out and executed the attack to make a fake war, but one day when the proof is out and the people who did it speak out, then she will still be in denial that something so horrible could not be done by our own Government or at least by people in the Government. Its like they want to block that stuff out, so women should never be in politics because they cannot except the truth. Children are dieing in Iraq? No way, that can’t be, we don’t kill children with our bombs, oh no, we would never kill an entire family just because we thought they were terrorists. For goodness sake, slap her and wake her up. Too much fluoride in the water.
lyncher Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:24 am
the fucking government fired missiles to the WTC…………
why don’t you people take a careful look to all the videos shown by the “amateurs” and the mainstream media?
JaneTheCarpenter Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
First of all (women deny everything at first) you replyed to me about women beleive that every thing is the truth. Your wrong about me. I know men that think everything is true, they have told me I’m nuts because, I tryed to tell them what the hell is going on. They don’t beleive it. So your statement is not correct. It’s very hard for any human to beleive these things could be happening, because evryone has been brain washed for a long time. They started when we where kids. We where trained to beleive that the government is good and can do no wrong, it’s for the good of the people. People start to see the truth in their own time. Something happens and by the grace of god they start to see the truth. However, there are a great number of people who as of yet have not woke up!
Art Carvajal Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Graham is a traitor to this country, and trying to convince him of 9/11’s conspiracy is a waste of time. why? he knows the truth and I would not be surprise he was quite involved..
all these neo cons/dems traitors hanging them high !!
hipo Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 3:46 am
I hate to say it but it looks like money although I don`t know why anybody would consider money to be a punishment unless the are money phobic which I think is called cremataphobia
hang on I`ll just bing it
EU-Lex Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Hahaha that conversation sounds like an evolutionist-creationist debate.
Watch Kend Hovinds debate DVDs
EU-Lex Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
it’s Kent with a T, damn American accent
brad Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 1:04 am
he wants a revolution to change his opinion.
Chris B Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I used to think 9/11 was an inside job, but I investigated further. Debunking911.com showed me all of the loopholes in conspiracy theories. I admit that there still are some unanswered questions, but a lot of stuff claimed in Loose Change was debunked. The best example is that building 7 was hit by debris from the North Tower falling, which casued severe structual damage on the south side of the building. Additionally, fires raged for hours on the south side of the building, and damaged the building further. That is what caused the building to collapse. Also, when Larry Silvertsien said “it was pulled” he was reffering to the operation being pulled out. The fire department decided to pull the operation and pull the firefighters out as a safety precaution. It was not demolished. Also, the penthouse on top of WTC 7 collapsed 10 seconds before the building collapsed, again showing that it was not demolished. This is all left out of loose change. But don’t take my word for it, as the producers of Loose Change suggest- Investigate it for yourself. debunking911.com
fatbstrd Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
look at 7 fall and its exactly like the sands. your a tool.us
lyncher Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:31 am
stupid, building 7 SHOULD have tipped over if one side was damaged by the towers and had not collapsed down VERTICALLY
Art Carvajal Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
what a bull !!
Chris B is a deluded/stupid or worse..
anybody with some reason, common sense and science background can say the buildings came down faster than gravity on a pile of dust…trademark of control demolition.
I would suggest debunk yourself, bad !
RJB Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
If all the dmage was on the south side of the building, which it was, then why did not the building just topple over onto its south side, as would be expected?
How is it that all four corners of the building, and everything in between, give way and drop at the exact same moment, and the building falls straight down, at nearly freefall speed? Watch the video. All four corners of the building begin dropping at the exact same time.
Highly assymetical damage, will never produce such a perfectly symmetical failure!
How do you explain the pools of molten metal found in the basements? How do you explain that it was still molten six weeks after 9-11?
How do you explain the more recent discovery and confirmation by a team of physicists and chemists of both unexploded super composite nano-thermite “chips”, and its exploded byproducts in the WTC dust? Which, by the way, would perfectly explain the pools of molten metal.
How do you explain 60% of the 9-11 Commissioners saying their own report was a FRAUD?
Would you have us believe these guys, as far as their report, and then deem them unbelieveable when they come out later and say its a fraud? If their report is so believable, then shouldn’t we believe them when they say it was a fraud?
You have lots of splainin to do, Lucy!
george Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
we need to stop alienating people. the “sxcientific study” that everyone is so excited about was not even published in a recognized scholarly journal. we need something better than that study. didn’t professor jones find the same thing ears ago. the problem is proving the source of the dust.
the senator is right not to change his “official opinion” based on that stuff.
How about this……the millions of 911 truthers, put up 10$ each and pay professional investigators to do the job. waiting for the gov. top do it, is like asking al capone to investigate his own hitmen.
10$ each gets us at least 20 000 000$ for the job.
come-on alex. your the one with all the hits. you can organise this.
RJB Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
WHO owns and controls those journals?
Scientists who enjoy government grants and contracts?
You think they would bite the hand that feeds them, when so much of what they report is paid for by the same people that are now implicated?
Most scientists today live and die by their corporate and government funding. Step out of line, and the funding dries up, and you ar going back to college to learn a new career.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
None of these sorry excuses for AMERICANS will do a damn thing to admit they had knowdlege prior to or after the fact that our own government had committed this crime against US…the People OF the United States of America…it is not in the interest of thier own back accounts ….If only SHTF now…..we can settle the question once and for all….
can someoneone tell me what is the Punishment for Treason..when commited by “elected officials”?
Um Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
There’s no penalty, the lie is enforced from the highest level.
free me Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:18 am
There is a Penalty, here, but the one they are going to receive, when they leave this realm, will more than suffice. Under the perimeters set up, in this world, by the Creator, these types get to be the selfish deceived deceivers that they choose to be. And the results, effect others. So there is Horror, and abuses in this world. The atrocities that often result from a hardened heart, are just a glimmer of the constant , unending activity in a locked realm with no escape, which is their destiny, should they not humble their hearts and GET WITH JESUS.
David Macko Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Treason may be punishable by death, and should often be punished in that manner, especially when 3,000 innocent people are killed.
TheGhost Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:56 am
dont forget to tack on an extra 50-75,000 first responders and residents who are dead or dying from the inhalation of cancer dust and whatever else they put in those buildings
john Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Lindsey Graham sucks!!!
doalive Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
pretty sure ya get a choice ,#1 a bullet-aka firing squad,#2 a rope (hopefully enough when enough is never tOO much),whOOm knows all the ways, that’s democracy and freedom from choice,personally banishment to the forbidden zone beneath/below the simean/semite reacter thing makes more of a dharmic/kharmaic equalibrium “thing,,,”if it were up to the General`Consensous ,stay tuned thair always thinking and inventing,those damn apes,monkeys chimpanzees,etc,etc,,,
akachristian Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
PUNISHMENT FOR TREASON………..JUST GOOGLE…..OR WIKIPEDIA….GEEZ…IT’S NOT THAT HARD TO GET ANSWERS BRAINIACS!
http://www.bing.com/search?FOR.....treason%3F
m-c hamer Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 2:38 am
I think its “hanging” them from one of those oaks right out behind the Senate bld. or it should be, Boy you could hand them basterds four months and months to get all the scum out of this govt………………GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!
October 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
“You live in a box, yes a box, with wall dark and stupid.”
TheGhost Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:58 am
spectacular!
October 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA8nvCPnHJ4 never forget the cover up
October 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
“Until something else comes out that changes that, that’s what he believes.” Um, hello… Something else has come out!!
October 12th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Is anyone surprised? Graham is a NWO minion, like everyone else in Congress. It is a waste of time and energy trying to get these people to admit to their crimes. It isn’t going to happen. If this sort of confrontation has any value at all, it is in showing the resistance of our “elected” officials to the truth, as well as their full cooperation with an agenda that is counter to the oath they have sworn. In this, there is some hope it will awaken suspicion among the sheep who haven’t yet awakened to what is going on. Beyond that, it serves no function at all.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
They will all burn in hell for this.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
8 years and two wars, and they award mr OB with a Noeble Peace Prize,,,, for what?
Take a look, and see with open eyes, this New World Order… it cares not for racial backgrounds etc, they have more evil wickeness at play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:00 am
TRUE???!?!?! This man just DOUBLES the troop level in Afhanistan. Maintains all prisoners without charges, still allows global torture, renditions, wiretaps, and “suicides”. Increases money and funding to Iraq even though the whole world knows it was based on a lie. And this guy Obmama gets the Nobel Peace Prize?!?!?!? What am I missing?
October 12th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Apparently fact isn’t fact in the pseudo-political realm.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
You can lead an ass to water but you can’t make it drink!
FACTS Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 12:19 am
I thought that was “You can lead an ass to water, but you can’t make it wash itself”.
TheGhost Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:59 am
maybe he knows asses that drink, didnt you ever hear about that old proverb of assuming?
Hologram5 Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
True but if their asses suck buttermilk, which they do, it’ll work by osmosis..>LOL.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
That’s right, and the Earth is flat and the earth is the center of the universe and you shouldn’t question authority, because they know what’s good for you. Why pay this guy any money, he is totally useless. Fire the idiot!
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Damn.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
lololol,,,,OMG,,,,,spare the rod and spoil the child! why am I not surprised,,,,vote this goon out of office please.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Whats the deal with senator graham wearing the military camo in that picture??
bo dingus Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
dats so they dont sees him when he be walkin an crusin in dat park where they found dat dead guy ,during the clinton years,
free me Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:19 am
He is duped, and a duper.
TheGhost Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 11:00 am
so he can commit crimes and not give away his position
October 12th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
“WakeUp” http://www.archive.org/details/WakeUp_542
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October 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Until he’s allowed to use his own mind, it’s the same old “status-qou”… Talking heads… that’s all they are… I like the part where his representative said, “Until something else comes out that changes that, that’s what he believes.”…What more could possibly come out? Maybe a pic. of Cheney drilling and planting thermite himself…
October 12th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I find it funny how People will not Believe Engineers but they will believe Politicians at there Word. Down is up and up in down I guess.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Senator Graham amuses me, with all of his “southern” mannerisms.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
WOW!!! People will believe Politicians before Engineers!!! WOW. Down is up in this world. Remember Politicians don’t lie.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Graham is a Goon for the NWO. Of course he will say what ever it takes to cover 9/11 up. He does NOT represent the people that he serves and furthermore I can not find a soul that likes him. Not sure how he was re-elected??
October 12th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Coup d’état?
HELP!
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“Coup” redirects here. For other uses, see Coup (disambiguation).
A coup d’état (pronounced /ku de’ta/), or simply a coup, is the sudden overthrow of a government through unconstitutional means by a part of the state establishment, that mostly replaces just the top power figures. It is also an example of political engineering. It may or may not be violent in nature. It is different from a revolution, which is staged by a larger group and radically changes the political system.)
Is it useful to ask and could it ever be known or believed that 9-11 was some sort of failed Coup d’état?
As the idiom goes “I like to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brain falls out!”
In my travels, I sometimes find myself wandering off the beaten path and realize I’ve wandered into Camp Conspiracy. Now, Camp Conspiracy, CC, is an interesting place to visit, it has a lot of unusual people with unusual ideas; these campers seem to have an abundance of energy and fervor.
Their specious reasoning and twisted logic and omission of facts can mesmerize and entertain an impressionable fellow like me. Like a Carney barker, they can spot this rube a hundred yards off, and like a Siren’s call, I am uncontrollably drawn in – you know – a moth to the flame sort of thing.
Ashamedly, I admit that their conspiracies give me pause and make me ask – ‘What if?’
Ordinarily, my reaction is more akin to “You’ve got to be kidding?!” or “Are you smoking your socks?”
So, like the fool I am, and before I pull out Ockham’s razor, I give their ideas a whirl.
I know that the good people here can lend a little friendly advice, above and beyond what they already have as to how or even if, one should try to grapple with the possibility that there may have been an attempted and failed Coup September Eleventh.
I’m sure many of you have parsed through various ‘inconsistencies’ with the Pentagon and Trade Center attacks and ended up scratching your heads. (god! I hope I’m not out in left field here.)
Alright, let’s see…
1.) Is it worth the time and energy trying as the truth may never be known? (or – is there no perfect crime and the ‘truth may be out there?’)
2.) Is it useful to ask such questions; apart from writing a book and cashing in on the whole conspiracy notion? or – getting your 15-minutes?
3.) Short of the president making a prime time speech from the oval office, stating that there was some sort of conspiracy, would the public ever buy into it?
4.) Was it all staged and some sort of statecraft at work?
I guess, at this point, it’s irrelevant. I should take solace that I finally figured out that Santa Clause isn’t real and content myself knowing that I’ll never get to meet the aliens or an aged Elvis or find out who really shot JFK.
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:05 am
“1.) Is it worth the time and energy trying as the truth may never be known?”
Even if someone tells you the “truth”…..you can turn around and simply say…you dont ‘believe it”. As if 911 was a religon, ghost sighting, or an alien UFO. It was 4 commercial planes crashing. After 8 years…the planes themselves have never been verified. You do know the truth….you just have trouble accepting it right now:
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Lindsey is a traitor with a girl’s name.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I guess if he looks outside and it is snowing and pitch dark outside but his bosses tell him that it is hot and sunshining, he will believe what they say, not what he knows. We are so done, with jerks like him we are doomed.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
he is not a man, he wants his paycheck, Lindseys says “oh, give me my paycheck”
October 12th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
vote them all out and keep doing it till the realize what we are in charge by sheer numbers!
Jason Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Exactly, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some “national emergency” that would “indefinitely postpone” the next elections.
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
You can’t “vote them all out” because they have fixed the elections with paperless election machines. Not all of them are paperless yet but they are increasing and they have enough of them already that they can create whatever outcome they want.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
did she give a wink wink?
Barrack the fudgepacking talking monkey Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
correction, did he give a wink wink? or should I say, did it give a wink wink?
October 12th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
the assholes planned this in the 1990’s before internet technology took off . they thought they could keep the truth hidden and controlled with the main stream media.Now we can all watch building 7 fall over and over on u tube.Cheney, in his total delusion thinks he sacrificed the few to save the world for the betterment of mankind. The Noble Lie. what an asshole. war criminal
October 12th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I don’t understand all the denial either. I have shown my family and in-laws and its like no matter what evidence I show them, they believe in magic before they believe the hard evidence. I see how the Nazi’s took over. It took this kind of denial.
I remember the JFK assassination and that was also an inside job.
Damn history just repeats itself over and over. Each generation has to start fresh.
Damn shame.
5 Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
They will suffer then. They are the ones keeping you enslaved. It’s their fault not the nwo.
October 12th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
“Excuse me. EXCUSE ME! I am also in open denial of scientific proof of 9/11 treason.”
Thank you, thank you very much.
October 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Well this does not come as a big surprise, since he more than likely knows the truth and does not want to admit he knows anything which is not a big shock!
October 12th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Kennedy was a public lynching for not towing the line and sent a message to others.
911 was part of an adjenda.
The parallels between the two events are astonishing. They pretty much acted out the same play and just changed the characters.
The denial? I think the biggest culprit is TV, (especially corporate news networks). They don’t call it “programming” for nothing. Anyone who gets their news and information from tel-LIE-vision is pretty much a lost cause at this point.
They’ll wake up when the dollar collapses and their net worth is cut two-thirds. When they finally devalue the dollar, you’ll trade three Federal Reserve Notes for one……. whatever the next fiat currency they decide to use.
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:08 am
exactly about the media. The media corporations in the US are owned and controlled legally by the top US military contractors. GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS for example. Understanding that there were no commercial plane crashes on 911 exposes the military corporation owned US media outlets to charges of conspiracy to murder.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
These people are all criminals.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
If any of you were in his shoes you’d probably say the same thing. I doubt very seriously that you would be willing to put your job on the line even if it is for the truth. He’s not stupid, he knows the truth just as much as everybody else in government does. Only difference is that no one is willing to risk the consequences. As for treason? Go ahead, just try to bring charges and let’s see how far that would take you.
Bill Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Every true supporter of this site is willing to risk ANYTHING for this truth. We arent cowards like you.
Bill Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:34 am
I know people know where I live. I am writing this message from my living room. I’m using my real name. Screw all you guys.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
So now what, wait for G.W.Bush to admit the U.S Governments roll in 9/11?
Perhaps wave a few more banners in our designated area.
Phone the police?
There is only only one hand to play at this table. Some of you know your true destiny, it is burning a hole in your heart The rest of you who have fear in your hearts, know that this is Understandable as what must be done has a very small chance of success. Most, if not all who dare partake will die. But you must remember that your preparing to hand down your fears to your children, they will be handed the burden of your inability to overcome that fear.
For hundreds of year, our people have not had a purpose, but here and now our generation has been served with a duty, one so great that it will cast shadows upon all other memorable events throughout history.
THIS IS YOUR DUTY, not some right or option!
They will not admit to their own crimes, never.
Bargeman Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Well said!
john doe Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
absolutely well said!!!! kudos!!!! Bargeman Kudos!!!!!
Completely agree Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Though have you come to the understanding that there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11? I bet you’re still in denial about that? Verify the debris and understand for yourself.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
If everyone here spent the same amount of time and effort writing directly to these criminals as they do commenting on blogs, it may be enough to make a small difference. I am not saying there is anything wrong with any of these comments and in fact, it is good to provoke thoughtful discussion. I am just saying, take five-ten minutes, go to Lindsey’s web site and tell him he is a despicable, treasonous douche-bag. One or two messages will not make much difference but even 100 or 150 on the same subject sent within 48-72 hours of each other sometimes changes things in ways you cannot know. GO TO HIS WEBSITE: http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/
ALWAYS use an address in the state or district of who you are writing to otherwise these scumbags simply delete it or at best forward to your senator/representative. When they make law affecting all citizens they should receive mail from every citizen.
If nothing else, it lets these criminal bastards know that not everyone is buying their lines of bullshit.
October 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Sen Graham responds: http://artedetomas.blogspot.co.....raham.html
October 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I hate calling this creep a Senator. This creep had something to do with 911. Thats why he is not going to change his mind. He met with the Pakinstanian General that came to this country with $100.000.00 dollars I recall, just before 911. Everytime I saw this guy on the telle he repulsed me. He acts very homosexual and it is obvious that he lies with every twist. He would be a perfect villian stereotype character for a movie plot that needed one. This is the kind of Senators in our Congress making laws. He is a snake and he is on the inside of a lot of the black op’s and evil goings on in our country. Don’t believe anything this guy says. He another John McCain, George Herbert Bush, Bush Jr. , John Kerry, the Clintons, Carter, Johnson, Nixon and others whom have ruined our country and sold their souls to the Bankers to further their own selfish goals.
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
What the effin hell does “acting very homosexual” have to do with being an evil prick?
With an attitude like that I’m surprised you didn’t say he acted “very black” or something equally as enlightened.
I’d rather have a screaming flamboyant gay in there who sucks dick 24/7 but who still would stand up for the constitution and expose 9-11.
October 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
This is what everybody should be doing to all their Senators and Congressmen. Give them that scientific paper titled “Active thermitic material found in WTC dust” available at Open Chemical Physics Journal, and then follow up on them later and make them address it.
agree Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Then verify a single piece of plane debris?!!
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
You idiotic “no planes” fools (or shills) need to either expand on your theory to tell us what you actually think happened or shut the hell up because it certainly looks like you’re only here to make the whole truth movement seem batty in order to scare aware newcomers.
mark Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I was also called a “no WMD fool” when I mentioned that there were no WMD’s in Iraq.
Not one single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. This sparky is using video, witnesses, film, and photos to “verify” the debris. Just one problem….video, witnesses, film and photos have NEVER verified a single plane or plane crash in avitaion history. Only debris or wreckage does.
Notice how sparky wants you to “solve the crime”? He wants you to tell the world “what actually happened”?!!! Who knows? Only the killers would know. This is a rabbit hole. They want total focus on everything but debris verification. Why has not one single piece been verified from ANY of the 4 planes from 9-11? Because just like the WMD’s in Iraq, it was a lie to borrow trillions and kill millions forever. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
October 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
So this means Jeremy Rothe-Kushel is witness to Senator Graham’s refusal of evidence. This in turn makes Senator Graham as aiding with the cover-up.
October 12th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Lindsey looks like the kind of guy who took part in the Boys Town rapings during the Franklin Coverup.
October 12th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
http://911essentials.com says you can measure the amount an individual is compromised, controlled or in the service of unseen others by the level of denial and faux incredulousness they display.
Ergo, don’t try and bullshit people that have a higher IQ than room temperature because you look like a fool even to them.
action tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Why hasn;t this spamming troll been banned from this site? This site still demands that commercial planes crashed on 9-11. These 911essential shills are criminals and protectors.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
just what do these pig shit head politicians think about who pays for their salary?
October 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
is j. rockerfeller mad at al gore for inventing the internet ??????
October 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
is it only me or does linsey graham look like hovvdy doddies love child !?
October 12th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
“Excuse me. EXCUSE ME! I am also in open denial of scientific proof of 9/11 treason.”
Thank you, thank you very much.
And alex doesn’t even challenge me on my denial when I come on the show and play kiss ass to his sheep. hahahahahahahahahah……..fuck yea!
October 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
No one in government to any serious degree is going to go against the official story until the government changes the official story they all watch the mainstream media for their talking points and anything the media dissagrees with they dissagree with. They know how the game is played, no matter how much evidence you have there not going to give it credence until the corporate bosses hand down word to the media to say its OK. The game is simple deny deny deny, thats the way its done. Just like the mention of Ron Pauls bill to audit the fed they barely mention it on the media and when they do they never mention Ron Pauls name so as not to lend him credibility. We are so screwed but thats nothing new.
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Remember what Hitler said, The bigger the lie, the more they will believe it.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Lindsy Graham is a puppet. He even dresses like one!
October 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Lindsey Graham is just another another turn-coat in the John McCain mold.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
We out number them 100 to 1 .
October 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Lecherous Fuckin’ Traitor!!! He should be Chaptered NOW!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
“The planes did not take down the Twin Towers. The planes were for shock value, to take your mind off the fact that there were demolition charges already planted in the buildings. The Twin Towers did not collapse as is hypnotically repeated. The buildings were professionally imploded. The twin towers exploded, pulverized, disintegrated into dust floor by floor from the top down and came down in ten seconds or less for each building. That is eleven floors per second. Can you clap your hands eleven times in one second?”
“Three skyscrapers in NYC came down at the acceleration of gravity, defying the laws of physics and conservation of momentum. One of them was not even hit. It is impossible for floor after floor to crash through the one below it without slowing the speed of the collapse. According to physics, the collapses should have taken minutes not seconds. That could only happen if there was a force working ahead of the collapse to cut the mass out of the way.”
You can still wake some people up. Print this and pass it around.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
Agree Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:15 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Stop Spamming!!!
mark Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Isn’t a post about ordering people to spam or not spam a form of spam?
Not a Government Shill Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:24 am
The towers were taken down primarily by unconventional directed-energy weapons, not planted explosives/thermite. Proof is at this website: http://www.drjudywood.com . She has the best scientific credentials of all the independent researchers into 9-11.
October 12th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Chicken shit Senator. All these bums need to be thrown out. There is no way that two buildings can be taken down by jets. They must be scared of someone above them. He should be a man, and carry a firearm for his protection against these assholes that took down the tower’s. As far as McCain goes, he is a jackass. Does anyone ever wonders how could a unpopular individual during the presidential campaign gets nominated to run? Has anyone ever wonder why the government went to computer ballot voting? Easy manipulation of the votes. I would like to go back to the ballot boxes with human beings reading the results. I also think that issue in Florida during the Bush election, when the media came out saying people upset saying their votes was not counted right, the so-called wrong ballot paper puching, hanging chads, that was all bullshit in my view. I strongly belived the media hyped up the issue in order to get the computerized voting machines. We the people need to push back and demand voting ballots and get rid of the voting machines. I hope this next election, a lot of these bums in D.C. get thrown out of office. People should start taking polls themselves on the streets in their district of who they think they going to vote for. Maybe there might be a difference then the so-called major news polling. I live in Las Vegas in Rep Berkley district. I still can’t get it out of my mind that she won, after I was asking numerous people when working in their homes, what they thought of her. It was unbelievable that she won the election. To me, it was rigged for her to win. This next voting, I will not be voting by machine. I will be asking for a ballot to vote on. I encourage everyone else to ask for the paper ballots, and get away from those machines.
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 7:19 am
We counted them by hand this weekend, on video tape. cc2009.us. Watch the live coverage of the Continental Congress Nov. 8 -22.
October 12th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Isaiah64:6…And all your righteous deeds are but FILTHY rags in the eyes of the Lord!!! Now shut the hell up and stay on topic mustard seed!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 13th, 2009 at 12:32 am
It is time to push back against the system, I say Fuck the system the system is the problem.
somehow we have to do more than talk, America is falling and falling fast.
all the smart Americans already no, somehow we must open the eyes of the stupid Americans
which their are litterally hundreds and hundreds of millions.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:00 am
“SGR: I’m not saying the science is wrong. I’m just saying that he believes that the planes that flew into the World Trade Centers were the only things that brought them down.”
What about Building WTC 7, no plane hit it, and the 911 Commission Report did not address the issue? Also, many of the commissioners do not feel that the Report is accurate.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:04 am
For eight long years the 911 Truth Movement has been petitioning the government for a redress of grievances. Everybody who’s anybody in Washington including the House, the Senate and practically anybody else, to a man, who works or has worked in an official capacity has invariably denied that 911 was an inside job. Why is that? If Ron Paul who is the closest thing to being the people’s champion denies the ‘inside job’ theory, where does that leave the others? Just go to Washington and ask any polititian at random whether 911 was an inside job and see what he says.
Judging from the past, it’s easy to predict the future.
The Question:
1. 1st 8 years, Q: Was 911 an inside job? A: No!
2. 2nd 8 years, Q: Was 911 an inside job? A: Hell, no!
3. 3rd 8 years, Q: Was 911 an inside job? A: Job? What inside job?
4. 4th 8 years Q: Was 911 an inside job? A: We have always been at war with Eastasia.
What about verifying the planes of 911? Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:16 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found…..
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
EFF off you spamming government shill.
mark Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Youre right sparky…I should have said that 19 saudi arabian men that could barley speak or right english highjacked 4 planes without a single SOS, were controlled and commanded by a man with renal failure and one foot living in a cave on the other side of the planet. Does that make you feel better? Have the questions of doubt gone away for you now?
October 13th, 2009 at 3:24 am
The handwriting is on the wall now far all Americans who thought they where living a free life.
We are all on the threshold of another bloody and sad saga to add to our nations history, weather we like it not. I hoped I would not have to live through times like this, but it is at the doors for all of us now.
Everyone who has any common sense left in their head all across America knows what the next steps will be, if we all Do nothing and just Stand by and watch. The insane and out of control crowd in DC will eventually get around to declaring martial law, and enslaving the whole population, and any citizen who resists will be rounded up and carted off to the FEMA Death camps.
These are the last days of any vestige or symbolence of freedom we thought we all had, and we are all living in them right now.
When the dollar crash’s at the end of this year, or first of next year, the martial law orders will be issued. We Americans have 1 (one) option left, and I’ve told everyone this fact many times. Americans have to swarm on DC in massive waves of people, trucks, and motorcycles, and just Shut them Down. Everyone that has any type of common sense left now at all, knows that this is the Only option that American citizens have left at their disposal.
If Americans falter, and waste their quickly closing Window of Opportunity to take their Nation back, by Grid-Locking DC with the 18 Wheeler Rigs. And then Throwing The Lying ass, carpet bag Murdering Bastards out of DC for good, then Americans will all become slaves, that is, the ones who will live through it.
What will history show that we did, what option will we as American Citizens take ? Will we rise up and throw the lying, rat ass, murderous bastards out of DC, or will we all sit by and watch as our friends, family and neighbors are all carted off to the ready and waiting FEMA Death Camps ?
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October 13th, 2009 at 3:31 am
The current Federal Goverenment is now unconstitution. The American people need to arise up and abolish this abomination. Mr. Graham is a traitor to this Nation. He needs to be tried and sentenced for his crimes.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:59 am
HE DID NOT GET MY VOTE, NOR ANY IN THE FUTURE ELECTIONS. HE IS PURE SCUM. DeMINT IS THE BEST WE HAVE HERE IN SC.
October 13th, 2009 at 8:05 am
If “He believes what was written in the 9/11 Commission and nothing more.” then by default he’s admitting its all a fraud because 60% of the commissioners who wrote it went public about how fraudulent the investigation was.
where is all the infowars support for Rosie. Unlike paul she has come out for 9/11 truth. And unlike sheen she is no longer on tv. Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Like our hero ronny paul says. There is no gov. conspiracy in 9/11.
Chris B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
There was no coverup ofan inside job. Only cover up of competency. US gov. agencies failed us completely. Thats the truth.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:04 am
SGR: “Uh, he doesn’t think they’re wrong, he just thinks–I mean he’s not going to change his opinion. His opinion thus far is agreeing with the 9/11 Commission. Until something else comes out that changes that, that’s what he believes.”
This last statement is a classic piece of garbage and double-think. He has been handed a report that contradicts what he wants to believe, and yet he says : “Until something else comes out that changes that, that’s what he believes.” Huh? This guy totally deluded.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:03 am
What did they think would happen when you take evidence to the biggest warmonger in the Senate. Neocon Graham would never go against the official 911 story. It would keep him from sport killing little brown people. What a waste of time and resources. Next time just hand out the 911 information to the public it would do more good that way.
junglelord Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:53 am
wise words.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Senator Lindsey Graham, 52, never married, never dating, is GAY as it gets.
paradox Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I think gay is the prerequisite for a neocon/nazi. The worshiping of anything military, which has to be some type of Freudian link to homosexuality and power. Research the nazis (neocon linage) they where overtly homosexual and self-hating (killed gays). Sound just like the Grand Old Pedophiles (GOP) in-the-closet, self-loathing, lovers of sadomasochist torture.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Lindsey Graham’s face tells a lot about him. Have you ever noticed? He reminds me of a Bible-belt Christian Minister who is doing things on the side that he hides from his congregation. Not accusing, just saying his face shows some kind of division between what he says and what he knows. It’s not surprising that he wouldn’t support the TRUTH, even with hard evidence.
ron paul Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 11:43 am
What hard evidence?
October 13th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Has he got a bad case of “double think”, or is he a puppet? I think those are the only two options, no?
October 13th, 2009 at 11:38 am
It is obvious that Senator Graham is either a part of the cover-up or he is afraid to put his neck out for the truth. Either way, he is no statesman. Those are not the kind of people we need in Washington.
October 13th, 2009 at 11:39 am
‘IN EVERY WAY ORGANIZE NOW”
LET IT BE
Senator Graham: He is choosing his part of the enemy; mark him as such!
Be diligent about it.
One day he might sincerely ask to have his soul removed from the bog of eternal stench; until that day….well, here is your pity Senator.
eveplebeodious.blogspot.com
Cisco d
October 13th, 2009 at 11:40 am
People are waking up, and fast. Continue to fight the good fight. Alex, I look forward to meeting you Saturday!
October 13th, 2009 at 11:42 am
lidsey is an inspiration to those of us who know there was no gov. conspiracy in 9/11.
saoirse Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
He may be an inspiration to you (and please stop using Dr. Paul’s name) but you, commenter, don’t know what you claim.
saoirse Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88×6JdfjwCY
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
IGNORE the trolls people
October 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I know I’m preaching to the choir in this venue, but our elected officials are faking denial. THEY KNOW the 9/11 truth and are or have been made a part of the cover up. The same way they pretend to not know about obama’s origin of birth. I am NOT saying they were directly responsible for the act, but they are part of the conspiracy against the People … they know the truth about it and they’re silence/denial has been bought under threat of physical harm in the same fashion that these same Spineless WIMPS were bought by the Banksters to write and approve TARP and never ending bailouts. All the illegal derivatives, CDS, and all this money has disappeared, and the Fed refuses to list those who received funds and refuses to an audit…. and no one is in jail, WTF!!!!! I SMELL STINKING RATS AND THEY ARE IN DC!! These people are all the same. We have to get rid of all of them. Come next elections, if you don’t vote your present elected official out of office then your a damn fool, a traitor, and deserve the damn mess were in. Once they are gone, we need to prosecute the criminals and HANG the traitors from the lamp posts on Pennsylvania Ave… and if there are not enough lamp posts, install more… a lot more.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Come on, Alex Jones listeners and readers. If you’ve taken in any of the information about the world and government, you should know by now that anyone who makes it to the level of senator is a member of the NWO. Anyone else gets filtered out.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Aren’t ALL Senators on the same side regarding 9/11?
October 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I used to think 9/11 was an inside job, but I investigated further. Debunking911.com showed me all of the loopholes in conspiracy theories. I admit that there still are some unanswered questions, but a lot of stuff claimed in Loose Change was debunked. The best example is that building 7 was hit by debris from the North Tower falling, which casued severe structual damage on the south side of the building. Additionally, fires raged for hours on the south side of the building, and damaged the building further. That is what caused the building to collapse. Also, when Larry Silvertsien said “it was pulled” he was reffering to the operation being pulled out. The fire department decided to pull the operation and pull the firefighters out as a safety precaution. It was not demolished. Also, the penthouse on top of WTC 7 collapsed 10 seconds before the building collapsed, again showing that it was not demolished. This is all left out of loose change. But don’t take my word for it, as the producers of Loose Change suggest- Investigate it for yourself- and consider both sides- not just conspiracy theories. debunking911.com
911nsdjb Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:06 am
I see, the laws of physics simply didn’t work that day. That’s how fire brought down for the first and only time steel reinforced buildings at freefall speed, even though other similiarly constructed buildings have burned for longer and hotter than the WTC and NONE collapsed. Wake up, all the debunkers have been debunked many times over by the facts. Red herrings and straw men can’t change that. Even the computer modeling done by Purdue and others stop at the time of collapse, because they CAN’T explain the freefall speed and be caused by fire. The ’stuff’ you claim isn’t in loose change isn’t there because it is irrelevant to the collapse. Silverstein made billions in insurance money when he would have had to pay billions in asbestos remediation to clean up the towers, and his ’safety precaution’ comment came after his use of industry terminology for imploding a building was called out for what it was. If the buildings weren’t demolished, you have to disregard the eyewitness testimonys of hundreds of first responders, policemen, firefighters, etc that saw and/or heard explosions before and during the collapses, not to mention the countdown leading up to the collapse of bldg 7. You are going to have to do better than regurgitating the same old false arguments against 9-11 Truth if you want anyone to take you seriously. Dig a little deeper, especially if you still have questions, because if one part doesn’t fit, none of it does.
What about verifying the planes of 911? Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:20 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. Just like the WMD’s in Iraq…you were lied to. The WMD’s in Iraq had video, film, witnesses, photos…though when someone wanted to test and verify a single piece…it became an intelligence failure. After 8 years…not one single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 911 has ever been verified in any way. Nothing.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
October 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
ROTFLMAOOAO
October 13th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
stop reposting your junk. once is enough. first of all, if WTC7 collapsed due to fire, it would not collapse straightdown. the fire inside the building did not burn evenly. the exterior damage was not even. do you even realize how many rivets, rebar, cement, etc. etc. trusses were in that building? plus it was newer – mid 80’s construction. built like a rock. why were the sprinklers inside WTC not working that day? did Aknad and Mohammed have access to a building housing the CIA, FBI, etc. etc. why is mainstream America in denial? or at the very least not curious?
bringing up the Penthouse as a disinfo argument is retawded. If it was a demolition, then it is very feasible that the penthouse collapsed first. and your 10 seconds before? where in God’s green disinfo Earth did you get that? The whole damn thing came down in less time. Check your facts Chris B. Spread your disease elsewhere.
Barry Jennings was blown backwards by explosions when both towers were still standing. There are now multiple first hand accounts of three very large explosions prior to collapse. There are also accounts of the bottom floors being taken out by explosives on all WTC 1,2 & 7. go play on debunking 911. get out of here until you have something concrete and intelligent to add.
What about verifying the planes of 911? Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
twncpcone
Of course the buildings were demolished because there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
lyncher Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am
so, you believe that an airplane can go through 100 meters of steel and concrete and coming INTACT on the other side…….moron
Chris B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Yes, there was plane debris from the planes that crashed.
http://www.popularmechanics.co…..ht77debris
and I think we are both mature enough not to call each other moron.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Chris B. As a chemist I can surely tell you from scientific proof that the chemistry and physics in loose change are 100% accurate. Anyone with a Ti83 calculator can do the math (trigonometry and calculus to be exact) and a high school education. When does kerosene (jet fuel) stay burning on the ground at well over 2000 degrees F for a week straight? Oh yea that’s right it doesn’t, because it was burned up on impact, the film proves it and the kinetic energy of the fuel traveling in the jet proceeded to burn up in the same direction the planes were traveling in. WATCH THE FILM!!! To debunk hardcore facts and scientific data by brilliant scientists like Dr Steven Jones by people who are nothing but shills are there only to hide the truth for mindless sheep like yourself. I would love to debate you on this topic in an open forum. I assure you that when i finished with you, no one would think you have any validity on this topic anymore than debunking911.org has. STFU!!!
broken arrow Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
WD what a very good reply, it makes the most sense i wish more people would read your reply and understand what you have to say is spot on!
Chris B Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Why don’t more scientist support Dr. Jones? and by the way, the field he wrote that paper on is not his scientific field. Seriously- there are thousands of Professional Civil Engineers and Professors out there- why don’t any of them back Dr. Jones claims?
911nsdjb Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 3:10 am
They do back his claims. He’s not alone in his theories. Even the insurance company investigations found thermite present in the ash, they just don’t account for it’s cause.
Chris B Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Is the insurace company fighting to not give its money away then?
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I am also a chemist and have been working as such for over ten years. I also used to test aviation fuel (jet fuel otherwise known as kerosene) regularly as part of one of my jobs. The gullible public will buy the theory that jet fuel brought down steel building because they associate it with something like rocket fuel. They think that jets go very fast thus their fuel must be super concentrated hot stuff or something. Even after I explain to some people that kerosene is actually a fairly cool burning fuel and that it simply could not melt or soften steel they refuse to believe me because it is what they were told. The public are fools.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Unfortunately, he’s my Senator, but he’s not my man in DC. I wish someone like Ron Paul would run against him here in SC. Heck, even Lindsey Lohan would make a better represenative than Lindsey Graham. She might not be to bright, but I think even she could put 2 & 2 together better than he can. Besides that she’s alot easier on the eyes!
October 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
R we to far gone r will everyone take time out of their so called free lifestyles to WAKE UP and see what is really going on and even then it will take a major catasrophic event to change things such as a revelution of major proportions to change things HELLO America home of the free
October 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Washington might as well be in Palestine with the rest of the terrorists cmon people it is sess pool of lies and greed and will never change we need to find way to get rid of it and start over i see no way to try and change a bunch of greedy posers who care about nothing but their WALLETS and and their over sized appetite for power LETS START NOW
October 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Mr. Bilderberg Lindsay Graham is never going to betray his God Lucifer and His New World Order puppet.
bill Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
+1. I have to give these people credit. They love lucifer more than we love the real God. They are more loyal than we are. It’s sad.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
As a former resident of South Carolina, I can tell you Senator Graham was the worst person you could have brought this to. He is such a shameless sellout to the real powers that be. He went before La Raza and told them that those opposing immigration reform (what we called Grahamnesty) were bigots. When we complained he said I didn’t mean you, I meant those other bigots. But we have the recording so we can tell who he was talking about. For his vote, the Ag lobbies and the Chamber of Commerce took out a huge ad in the paper to thank him. During McCain’s campaign, Graham took off from the Senate (with Joe Lieberman) to travel on the taxpayers’ money and campaign for McCain. We voted against him twice – primary and election. He won with $4.5mill in his campaign chest versus $100,000 of his competition.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
PS. I once wrote him about Sibel Edmonds as congress was complaining about a lack of translators. The response from his office was that he stood by the Justice Department’s gag order and improper dismissal (whistleblower). The man stands on the side of corruption and globalization. You are wasting your time bringing 9/11 stuff to him.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:38 am
As the aircraft attacks of September 11, 2001 unfolded at the World Trade Center, virtually maximum augmented GPS positioning quality for the entire daylight period was provided to the geographic coordinates for the World Trade Center.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/21445
AL Reply:
October 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Thats a lie. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. Stop promoting the lies.
lyncher Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I’m with you , the “truthers” hide the fact that there were not airplanes involved in the murders on 911
AL Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:03 am
They will also forbid you from even bringing the topic up. These “truth groups” were set up to never allow discussion or even the acknowledgement of the possibility that Bush may have lied about those 4 commercial planes. The last person at WeAreChange to understand that there were no commercial plane crashes on 911 and say something…was Dan Wallace. At 23, suddenly he is dead of “heart issues”, and Luke is dating Dan’s girlfriend within the week.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
Chris B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Yes, there was commercial planes, and there was debris.
Enough false claims.
http://www.popularmechanics.co…..ht77debris
Tom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Chris…the claim is that not one piece has been physically verified. No one is saying they didn’t plant debris without serial numbers?! NONE of the parts that YOU have ever seen had any serial numbers. The “engines” that are being shown to you in these pictures from popular mechanics have NEVER been verified. None of the pieces from any of the sites have verified any planes form 9-11. That is a first in aviation history and it happened 4 times in one day.
Why are you relying on a magazine about cars for your information?
Chris B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Now I undertsand you better. I will investigate this further.
Here is the proof:
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.co.....artsnyc911
Ingrid Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Chris……we understand that you are showing pieces. Its just that the VERY pieces you are showing are the EXACT pieces that the FBI says it and you may never see again. The FBI has already say it will test NOTHING with regards to any debris from any of the planes because “we all saw it on TV”….and “we had no reason to doubt what we were shown”?!!!(FOIA 2008)
The exact same “evidence” was presented for WMD’s in Iraq. There were videos, witnesses, film, photos…its just that when someone wanted to physically verify a single piece of what the world was being shown…it became an “intelligence failure”. The same applies to the plane debris of 9/11. Witnesses, film, and video mean nothing…you still must physically verify what you were supposedly shown.
After 8 years….NOTHING in any of the photos you have EVER seen….NONE of the pieces of debris have serial numbers!!!! Stunning since each plane has a minimun 1.5 million parts of metal that can be verified within seconds. Every single piece disappeared on 911 from all 4 planes. Though paper and laminate ID’s where easily found from the “passengers”?!!! ps….until the planes can be physically verified you can not say the word “passenger”. No plane…no passenger. There were no commercial plane crashes on 911.
Chris B Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
So what happenned then? What “crashed” then?
Chris B Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
What do you take out of this:
Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. “It was absolutely a plane, and I’ll tell you why,” says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. “I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box.” Kilsheimer’s eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: “I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?”
October 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Lindsey Graham is the poster child for slimy, pastey, evil, wimpy, lying, asshole NWO politicians. how does a human being become so filthy and disgusting? He makes my skin crawl. God help us if this is what this country has to offer as far as public servants.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Graham has been on TV a lot lately and I kept wondering what are his goals? If he is vying to run for president, he might as well hang it up. Nice person, I am sure. Not to be picky but his voice is not presidential.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Sixty some odd years ago, there was a small minority that stood against a group psychosis. Although many knew what they said was correct, few had courage to join them. A couple short years later, those like Lindsy Graham went along with their leader and executed those who exposed the group psychosis. Even fewer had courage once this began. In the end a foreign force overcame the group psychosis. This time there is no foreign force.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I definately don’t love the establishment too. I do think that there are some people in government with high moral standards. I feel President Obama has higher moral standards than Mr. Bush. Obama pushes for peace, and diplomacy, and mutual respect- which is why he won the Nobel Peace Prize. I agree that the Fed should at least be audited, and replaced with a better system if possible. If you want to read up on the negative impact of the US government after WWII might I suggest Confessions of an Economic Hitman and The Secret History of the American Empire, both by John Perkins. That is the kind of truth we should be promoting (how the US, and US companies has exploited developing countries). The greed of capitalism has negative effects, and corporations should be held to higher moral standards. Alex Jones interviewed John Perkins- I would suggest watching this interview if you haven’t.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCZCA5ZinNw
October 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
I definately don’t love the establishment too. I do think that there are some people in government with high moral standards. I feel President Obama has higher moral standards than Mr. Bush. Obama pushes for peace, and diplomacy, and mutual respect- which is why he won the Nobel Peace Prize. I agree that the Fed should at least be audited, and replaced with a better system if possible. If you want to read up on the negative impact of the US government after WWII might I suggest Confessions of an Economic Hitman and The Secret History of the American Empire, both by John Perkins. That is the kind of truth we should be promoting (how the US, and US companies has exploited developing countries). The greed of capitalism has negative effects, and corporations should be held to higher moral standards. Alex Jones interviewed John Perkins- I would suggest watching this interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCZCA5ZinNw
Sparky Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Chris: obviously it seems that you’re fairly new to the subject, otherwise you wouldn’t keep quoting the ridiculous “hit piece” that is popular mechanics. Do yourself a favor and read some good well researched books on the topic.
I suggest;
The New Pearl Harbour-David Ray Griffin
9/11 Synthetic Terror-Webster Griffin Tarpley
The Towers of Deception-Barry Zwicker
The government has thousands of people working full time to try to continue the cover-up and just because you have one so called “expert” claim that she saw a plane and body parts does not mean that all the OVERWHELMING evidence that there was not a commercial plane crash is invalid. After a bit of research you will be amazed at how blatant some people will lie outright. Do some reading, the evidence of government lies is staggeringly overwhelming. Be prepared for a trip down the rabbit hole. I myself wasn’t since I also believed what I was told by seemingly everybody (media). But I know now that the official story is a complete fabrication. I have not yet found the bottom of that rabbit hole.
It has changed my world view (unfortunately) and has opened up a frightening view of the Matrix that we live in.
Start by turning off your TV and start reading.
(That is if you really want to find the truth and not simply defend your- world view against all evidence)
tina Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:46 am
sparky…there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The authors you mentioned still maintain that there were. The rabbit hole is everywhere.
October 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
He had a Tom Delay moment. Dude don’t smile you were just convited of treason!
October 16th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Does Senator Graham agree with the 9/11 Commission that “further investigation needs to be done”?
October 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
You can’t fight the facts.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:26 am
It is not about Left Right. Its all the republicans fault.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
possibly the greatest gift we were given is the ability to recognize when we was ‘wrong’.to admit it,to have remorse,and to reconcile.that’s where all great learning and sponeneity originate’s.people don’t allow anything good to happen in their live’s by mean’s of obnoxiousness’monkey mind clamouring about’.they gridlock the very air around them.it’s a control thing.as lao tzu observed’when weapon’s are [too]strong,they won’t prevail;if a tree is[too]strong,it will break.’equalibriam in the ‘advancing&adhering’is a rare but worthy goal.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
i’m much more effective unaiding and unadorned.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
HOW is this Graham’s Still a Senator??? BETTER YET WHY ISNT HE HANGED FOR TREASON??
October 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I am ashamed to have a Douchebag like Lindsay Graham as a Senator of my State.
October 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Mr Graham is a shit head. He would’nt know the truth of a thing even if the truth was a pit bull dog chooing his big fat ass.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Thomas Jefferson once shot a man on the white house lawn for treason…
October 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I like the suggestion of turning my TV off and reading…all Americans should do this.