Welcome to Shreveport: Your rights are now suspended.According to Cedric Glover, mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana, his cops “have a power that [. . .] the President of these Unites States does not have”: His cops can take away your rights.
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| Cedric Glover, mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana, claims to have the authority to suspend the Constitution. | |
And would you like to guess which rights he has in mind?
Just ask Shreveport resident Robert Baillio, who got pulled over for having two pro-gun bumper stickers on the back of his truck — and had his gun confiscated.
While the officer who pulled him over says Baillio failed to use his turn signal, the only questions he had for Baillio concerned guns: Whether he had a gun, where the gun was, and if he was a member of the NRA. No requests for a driver’s licence, proof of insurance, or vehicle registration — and no discussion of a turn signal.
Accordingly, Baillio told the officer the truth, which led the police officer to search his car without permission and confiscate his gun.
However, not only does Louisiana law allow resident to drive with loaded weapons in their vehicles, but Mr. Baillio possessed a concealed carry license!
What does such behavior demonstrate, other than transparent political profiling — going so far as to use the infamous Department of Homeland Security report on “Americans of a rightwing persuasion” as a how-to guidebook, no less?
Mr. Baillio made no secret of his political affiliations: An American flag centers a wide flourish of pro-freedom stickers and decals on his back windshield.
In fact, when Baillio asked the officer if everyone he pulls over gets the same treatment, the officer said no and pointed to the back of his truck.
Baillio phoned Mayor Glover to complain about this “suspension of rights” only to find that his city’s morbidly obese “commander in chief” was elated at the story: According to Glover, Baillio got “served well, protected well, and even got a consideration that maybe [he] should not have gotten.”
Thankfully, Mr. Baillio recorded a good bit of that phone call. You can watch a video with the transcriptions here. I’ve reproduced a chunk of the call below:
Baillio: (in the context of being asked about the presence of a gun) Well, I answered that question honestly, and he disarmed me.
Glover: Which would be an appropriate and proper action, sir. The fact that you gave the correct answer — it simply means that you did what it is you were supposed to have done, and that is to give that weapon to the police officer so he could appropriately place it in a place where it would not be a threat to you, to him, or to anyone in the general public.
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Glover: My direction to you is that, had you chosen not to properly identify the fact that you had a weapon and directed that officer to where that weapon was located; had you been taken from the vehicle, and the officer, in the interest of his safety, chose to secure you in a safe position, and then looked, found, and determined that you did, in fact, have a weapon…then, sir, you would have faced additional, [inaudible], and more severe criminal sanctions.Baillio: So what you’re saying is: I give up all my rights to keep and bear arms if I’m stopped by the police: Is that correct?
Glover: Sir, you have no right, when you have been pulled over by a police officer for a potential criminal offense [which would be what?! - DB] to stand there with your weapon at your side in your hand [Baillio's weapon was nowhere near his side or his hand, and Glover knew that. -- DB] because of your second amendment rights, sir. That does not mean at that point your second amendment right has been taken away; it means at that particular point in time, it has been suspended.
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Will Grigg from ProLibertate, an excellent freedom blog, has this to say:
According to Glover, a police officer may properly disarm any civilian at any time, and the civilian’s duty is to surrender his gun — willingly, readily, cheerfully, without cavil or question.
From Glover’s perspective, it is only when firearms are in the hands of people other than the state’s uniformed enforcers/oppressors that they constitute a threat, not only to the public and those in charge of exercising official violence but also to the private gun owner himself.
NAGR spoke with Mr. Baillio, and he told us that he’s in the process of securing the official procedures and codes for firearm handling and private property confiscation for the Shreveport police department.
So far, the city has been half-heartedly cooperating with him.
“I felt sick,” Baillio told NAGR. “My uncles didn’t die for this country so I could surrender my rights like a wimp. I felt terrible. I was just thinking of all that my family has done for freedom in this nation — including dying — and here they are disarming me at a traffic stop.”
What to do?
1. Read Luke’s commentary here, and participate in the discussion by leaving a comment.
2. Send this around. This kind of behavior cannot go unchecked.
3. Call Mayor Glover’s office to complain: (318) 673-5050.
I’ll leave you with one last consideration. As a licensed firearms instructor in charge of a hundred different students every month, I’m often asked if citizens should voluntarily inform police officers of the presence of a firearm during a routine traffic stop.
While different states have different laws, my answer for Colorado citizens is an emphatic “No”: Colorado law doesn’t require you to volunteer that kind of information, and this case in Louisiana proves why, if at all possible, you should never invite trouble by doing so.
In liberty,
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Dudley Brown
Executive Director
National Association for Gun Rights
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I concur, do not offer any information that is not pertenent to the traffic stop. What say you? What does your local/state laws say?
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July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
To be nonviolent to human beings and to be a killer or enemy of the poor animals is Satan’s philosophy
http://protectacow.typepad.com.....sophy.html
Rod Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Realy? Animals are not an enemy they are food, They were put here by God to feed us. If you think it is satans philosophy, satan is a liar, remeber he told Eve that God said to eat from the tree of knowledge, and They were told not to eat from the tree of knowledge.
you are invited to my house for a 2 inch thick rib eye stake on the BBQ. or how about a rack of BBQ’d deer ribs. yummm
Karen Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Anything to disarm the American people….this guy should get a lawyer
http://www.Vote3rdPartyNow.org
gman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
i hope he sues and wins big bucks off those assholes. and who are those cops are they real or homeland homos. i would not tolarate that from my officers
Huh? Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
OK, so let me get this straight… To be nonviolent to animals and to be a killer or enemy of humans is God’s philosophy?
I suppose thats in one of the chapters I”ve never read.
brandon Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Ruby ridge
MAD DOG Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
WE’VE BEEN THROUGH THIS.
IN KATRINA THEY DID THIS, AND THE COURTS RULED IT WAS UNLAWFUL.
FILE A THEFT CHARGE AGAINST THE POLICE OFFICER THEN SMALL CLAIMS HIM FOR THE VALUE OF THE GUN.
HE HAS NO DEFENSE, YOU DID NOTHING WRONG.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
FILE THE THEFT CHARGE AND CITE MISCONDUCT TO THE SHERRIFF.
fascist america Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
this is the fascist police state we now live in
wuts the solution, its not within the current government
so it must be a destruction of the government, which the nwo is playing out, to replace with the one world government
get as many straps as you can now for yourself and family and when the time comes aim for the head of the snake
pray to God your Creator
Praise Allah
ScrewyL Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
I contacted Mayor Glover’s office at the number in the article. I asked to speak with him, however his secretary stated that he was not in at the moment, and asked if I would like to leave a message.
I said “Yes. Tell him that suspension of a right IS infringement of that right.”
After a pause, she responded sardonically: “Would you like to leave your name and number so he can call you to discuss it?”
I replied “I would like you to take that message, and make sure he gets it. Thank you. Goodbye.”
Who else called? How did it go?
Greg Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Here’s the best article I’ve read in a long time on facing the world crisis: http://www.unconditionalfriendship.com/?p=83
Video of the above story Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Here is the video of the recording to the ABOVE story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_G5NvfyVU
Tommy Jeff Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
It’s not enough to OWN guns.
You have to USE them…
or LOSE them.
Homebrew42 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
If I were in that city I would petition to recall the Mayor. Just because someone wears a badge it dosent make them god.
Willie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
It is the duty and obligation of every American whose rights have been violated to sue for punitive damages. And also to sue the company which bonded the police officers who violated their rights. If the city gets enough bond judgments against it then it will lose its bonding and no longer be able to lawfully have police officers without un-incorporating and starting over as a new municipality that promises to abide by its own laws. We are all obligated to “create justice” for all those who follow after us.
JAFO Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Not too sure how the Genesis reference is warrented here, but I would love to have a FRIENDLY debate as to it’s relevance over some venison ribs bud.
steven Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
sounds delicious =)
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I’ll join you for lunch as well I actually have some good recipies we could use.
http://www.kurma.net/
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I accept your invitation.I’ll skip the steak and eat the potatoes.However, I do expect some lively conversation about the viability of NWO slaughterhouses.
Todd Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I like your name. I hate mine. I hate my parents.
UR Incorrect ROD Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Uhhh… you need to read Genesis again… Animals were NOT initially created for our dining pleasure. It wasn’t until after the great flood described in Genesis 6, that man was granted PERMISSION to eat of the animals of the land. Adam and Eve were essentially made vegetarians and rightly so. Too much meat is unhealthy.
oldenough Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Hey guys, get back on subject, you are screwing up my valuable time by having to filter out off subject posts. KNOCK IT OFF , Grow up , and go somewhere else if you can’t focus.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
How is disscussion about gods words and desires ever off subject. i dont get it, as thats the WHOLE the center, the clue for us to function within the higher codes passed down to us for harmonious existences and what to do if demoniac influences start to take the upper hand.
http://video.google.com/videop.....4130308142
MAD DOG Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
ahhh, you need to get a clue.
your fairy tale delusions have no basis on reality.
your invisible make believe spirit didn’t create anything let alone animals.
we are a by product of fusion, oxidation and time.
nothing more, nothing less.
tOOballs Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Nice – I have never been to church but I know what’s right – it’s simple
north west logger Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Hey MAD DOG…..speaking of by products, It just occured to me you are a by product of venison barbecued ribs and taters……you are a BIG brown turd that isn’t smart enough to read or understand who our creator is and how much he cares for and wants to salvage UUMMMM even you.
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 4:20 am
To be nonviolent to human beings and to be a killer or enemy of the poor animals is Satan’s philosophy. In this age there is enmity toward poor animals, and therefore the poor creatures are always anxious. The reaction of the poor animals is being forced on human society, and therefore there is always the strain of cold or hot war between men, individually, collectively or nationally
canuck rage Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 9:55 am
if we are nothing more than a product of time, fusion, and oxidation, then who cares about any of this? In the grand scheme of things, you have just equated yourself with a tape worm, or a chair. nothing more, …. nothing less.
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
North West – How the f--- to do you know? No one knows anything about god it is just what you think not what you know. We all know the same thing about god f--- all. He could be real he could not, chances are not.
And if you had listened to alexs show the other day he had a christian guy on expaining that if you do nothing to fight the NWO because you think it is all inevitable because of what the bible says then your god will come down on you harder than anyone else because you knew and did nothing to help your fellow man.
YESHUA'S BELOVED Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
IF YOU HAVE AN INTELLIGENT RATIONAL MIND THEN I SUGESST YOU READ A FEW BOOKS ONE BY “EVOLUTIONIST” WHO HIMSELF SAYS THAT THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH ESTABLISHING THIS THEORY “EVOLUTION A THEORY IN CRISIS” (I CAN’T REMEMBER THE AUTHORS NAME CHECK ON AMOZON) HE IS NOT CHRISTIAN, ALSO”THE CASE FOR A CREATOR” BY LEE STROBELL HIMSELF A FORMER ATHEIST WHO AS HE INVESTIGATED THE EVIDENCE REALIZED THAT IT CLEARLY POINTS TO AN INTELLIGENT CREATOR AND BECAME A CHRISTIAN. ALSO “THE NEW EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT” BY JOSH MCDOWELL OR ARE YOU AFRAID OF WHAT YOU MIGHT FIND? WITH LOVE IN CHRIST. P.S. “ZEITGEIST” MAKES BLATENTLY FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT CHRITIANITY. WITH LOVE IN CHRIST
MBE Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I think the real question is how people define God. Look into quantum consciousness, unified field theory, etc. and look into mysticism, and maybe try some mind expansion, and I think you begin to see that God is intelligent consciousness that pretty much underlies this whole experience. Of course, everybody has seen the Matrix, but I think it was ultimately created through the conscious force of God, which lives within and outside of it and that we can realize that our personal consciousness, material consciousness, or dream consciousness exists within this field. I DON’T PROMOTE MY SPECULATIONS AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH IN ANY WAY.
But if we put s--- in the air and water, we’re still going to breath and eat s---. You reap what you sow. The laws of physics just don’t apply to the consciousness itself, as it is multi-dimensional. I think the evidence for evolution is strong, but I think it’s time to openly accept that there is likely a creating force behind reality and let people decide for themselves, but I definitely don’t think Genesis is literal at all, and was inspired by other ancient philosophies.
That is not saying Christ didn’t exist; I agree the Zeitgeist made some pretty bold claims that have little substantial justification, and it got other stuff flat out wrong, just like this website, which flat out lies a lot. Where did those pictures of the corna hand signal on political figures waving come from? An easy way to manipulate and exploit paranoid Christians.
Beyond that, I don’t know. Believe what you want.
Ray Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
This rude guy Rick, needs soap in the mouth, then a 357 to wash it down.
Ha Ha.
LOL
Lord... Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Um, no meat is unhealthy, too. I know of nobody who is vegetarian/vegan who does not need to take extra vitamins to supplement their diet. And one other thing, too much of ANYTHING is unhealthy.
tOOballs Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I was vegan for two years veg for 5 – sure I was young – but I’m a chef and a nutritionist – and I was 10 times healthier without meat – mostly because I was disciplined in what I ate – but I never had supplements – there’s actually a slght problem with people getting too much iron these days – mostly vego’s who take tablets – meat sure is good for you – buy you gotta know what your eating – I’m sure god must get a bit pissed off seeing the way you yanks eat – especially this damn glover pig x
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Ralph your email link does not work
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Its true, after the great flood there was a food shortage so special dispensation for that time of food scarcity was given. Not for all time, morally its not right, plain and simple,
Educate yourselves as to how the NWO carries this out. Link provided.
http://video.google.com/videop.....4130308142
Prax Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Ah, Annette! Thank you for posting this. From this day forward I’m now a vegan. That was rough to watch, thanks again.
Prax
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Annette you tell them.If you so desire please contact me to discuss these topics further.protectacow@hotmail.com
777 beats 666 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Not so Annette. Read Acts 10:12 thru Acts 10:15…..Jesus came to fulfill the Law…we now live under Grace Dispensation….Thats a fact
Sorry about getting off focus but this has to be resolved.
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Annette its protectacow@hotmail.com or go to my blog protectacow.typepad.com (the link is the very first comment on this story.) and either click on the contact me link or leave a comment perhaps with your email address.
goheadb Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I’m wondering why there was a food shortage..how come god didn’t just cross his arms and blink..to make more food.. doesn’t he have the power to just make things appear.. why always with the petty tests with god..he’s like a woman whom you’re trying to get in her pants…
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
So to take it to its end if you lived somewhere where there was suddenly no veg and only loads of juicy meaty animals running around you would starve yourself to death?
It’s about a balanced diet, eat abit of meat and abit of veg.
AntiworldGovt Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 9:12 am
o god…religious freaks on infowars…
ppl did not need anyones “permission” to eat animlas of the land homie.
and the earth is not 12000 years old. u can learn this s--- in a college history class. paleo-indians-millions of years ago. (they were also the first to use graves indicating that they began to believe in an afterlife)
just that one history lesson is enuff to force u to question religion.
and you CANNOT believe something fully if you have unanswered questions especially if u have no argument other than “its in the bible”
who said that Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
and just who told you man has a million yrs history? you have no proof of that it’s just something they told you in school that you chose to believe, and man dosen’t have a 12000 yr history either it’s 6000 yrs.
Chosen Ones Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I thinh its 100% hipocrisy complaining about Micheal (Pedophile) Jackson media coverage for 2 hours of a 4 hour radio progam. Alex, PLEASE STOP YOUR ATTEMPTS AT COMICAL IMPERSONATION. You sounfd like a clown without any talent in a BRUNO movie.
shut up and fight Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
f--- read what your wrote. god is a f---in asshole. dosnt whant eve and adam to learn things.
god is satan. and satan is god. religion is bs.
Stacie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
no s--- man. seriously. religion warps reality in a way some of us just can’t understand
LRS Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:18 am
How stupid are you?……
Captain Trips Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Yummy! BBQ-d Deer ribs!
777 beats 666 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
pass the taters Capt
Deleted Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Primitive Christian carnivores. Keep eating that fatty meat. Clog those arteries.
Deleted Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 5:11 am
I love how Christian Nazi Alex Jones began his show Tuesday promising that he would discuss the death of Michael Jackson. Then he of course proceeded to go in to a long monotonous diatribe about just that. He attacked black people basically claiming that they were all idiots for getting so worked up about another’s death. It’s not as if the precious Christians are obsessed with death right Alex? They didn’t flock in record numbers to theaters with a frighteningly morbid fascination of the film Passion of the Christ did they? OF COURSE THEY DID! That film had more blood, gore and violence than The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But Christians ate up it because they love images of death. That’s why they worship a crucifix. They’re sick, SICK people.
goheadb Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
I soooo agree.. I think MJ was SUPER talented but disturbed..sadly disturbed..few ppl that are extraordinary are noromal though it seems.. I didn’t get in a frenzy and watch the MJ hour yesterday.. Thats because I’m keeping my eye on Obama.. Passion of the Psychopaths…. Never seen it..
who said that Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
ha ha that was a film that showed how much christ suffered for us and it was wildly popular despite what the media tried to make it out to be, most of us haven’t given over to pure evil , when they do it’ll be another holocost then you can see blood there will be plenty.
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
They love a blood scarafies, For Goodnes sakes Take down Jesus from the cross and stop making him your scapegoat for your Sins.
And yes its pretty awfull the way That alex does go on and on about Michael in a degrading way. what we give out comes back on us or we become what we obsess about.
As much as i hate pedophiles as Jackson was accused of, I’m not his judge and I dont even know him, but one thing is for sure he was a victim and now his only real judge is God himself. We are unimportant at this point
I think he needs to let go off that little bit of hate on move onto his issues , or is that his issue?
goheadb Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 8:44 am
“God” put animals here for us to eat? I’m no veegan or anything but the whole god talk is so why we’re in this position.. If you buy the bible, then you’ll buy anything and the govt knows that. I wish alex would get off the god talk..as if we need to fight some evil clut with this so-called cult for good…when the bible makes a horror movie look like an episode of spoonge bob. The ppl are controlled because they are not educated, nothing is more anti-education than religion..god said it…i believe it…that settles it… throw evidence, science and technology out the window. you have never seen or heard of one single living thing comming to be without some sort of reproductive process…yet…jesus was born of a virgin…and you believe that.. how stupid..fact is..my 2 sons came to be by me plowing the hell out of my wife from behind while holding her down and smashing her face down into the pillows..just how she likes it..this would tarnish your jesus if he actually came to be by way of sex which…there is no if…nothing has ever been born to a virgin… fight the NWO with education..not a primitive man made book..
Revolt Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Actually, what you’ve said is scientifically inaccurate. Immaculate conception does occur in nature, it has been observed in reptiles I believe. There is also asexual reproduction. This does not prove or disprove the birth of Christ, but you cannot debunk the evil of Christianity without getting your facts straight. All you do in that case is give the psychos more spurious ammunition to attack those who choose logic and reason over macabre mythological tales.
who said that Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
you should be banned from this site, it’s IDIOTS like you that gets true free speech banned, no one should be insulted reading trash like you post , why would your wife even stay with a thing like you is beyond me, she must be really really hard up!
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Yeah, That person is really offensive by nature, I bet in his /her everyday life they go around spewing vile stuff about everyone, everything.
jm Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am
and guess what, God put you here on earth to be food for the elite.
I don’t really think this, I think you are a human being with your own conscience and desires, all I’m saying is, it’s pretty hypocritical to say animals were put on earth as food for human beings, since that must mean you’re okay with the elite using you as food.
animals feel pain, too!
who said that Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
steak anyone, I like mine medium well with plenty of A1
JACK FOST Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I think they are reaping the results of their cruel activities.
Michael Edwards Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
meat is a luxury to many, but to us its a choice. Respect my choice please; I don’t go around harassing people for eating meat
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Ralph, you clearly religious blinds down. No where in the bible does it say its a sin to hunt. You are a backward 21st century christian that cant cope with nature(i.e. humans are omnivorous and they need to eat)
im pretty sure your god said you were supposed to appreciate things like that.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
*if you were being sarcastic, i retract the prior statement
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.(Genesis 1:29)
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
does not say “your only food”
MAD DOG Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
bible thumpers are nuts
you should all be rounded up, you are delusional.
YESHUA'S BELOVED Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1Ti 4:2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
1Ti 4:3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;
1Ti 4:5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Thank you! Perfect quote. Though this little debate is a bit of a distraction from the real issue. Get on the phone!
Jack Frost Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
So if nothing is to be refused if offered with thanksgiving , can I eat you as im sure there would be a tribe who would still offer you up to me with Thanksgiving.
I humbly submit that you at least watch this video and then continue on your path as choosen by you , but at least watch and veiw what the costs are.
http://video.google.com/videop.....4130308142
Captain Trips Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
That’s some pretty stupid logic Frost. We eat meat, deal with it. We do not condone or even like what the Corporate slaughter houses are doing. Even though animals destined for food will die they needn’t be treated like trash.
who said that Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
when they round up the christians be sure your next, the holy spirit is the only thing holding back your god satan, and satan dose’nt like you rest assured.
Lord... Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
No, no, no…Then the human being who wrote the Bible, which was subsequently rewritten, and rewritten, and rewritten, said “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.(Genesis 1:29)”
You are Manipulative Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:04 am
So in your ideology about christian theology I offer the following argument (and don’t make me get into a religious discussion here.. it gets very abhorring). Verse 30 of Genesis 1 goes on to say.
“And to all the animals on the earth and to every bird of the air and to everything that creeps on the ground–to everything in which there is the breath of life–I have given every green plant for food. And it was so.”
Here it clearly leaves out “Seed Bearing” herb or fruit. Yet everyday it seems my blueberry and grape stocks are depleted by Seed eating birds. Maybe I missed something? Maybe the birds missed something? Maybe they just need a good Theologian (such as yourself) to lead them down the path of righteousness as they have CLEARLY gone astray.
GET BENT and STAY ON TOPIC!
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
13When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!”(John Ch2)
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
condemns the SALE of DOVES. and possibly SELLING ANIMALS IN THE TEMPLE. no mention of hunting or eating meat being wrong.
777 beats 666 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
LOL….even the High Priests like fresh meat
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
This quote has NOTHING to do with this issue.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
you’re right, I got a bit distracted from the real issue. That situation is f-ed up. They already treat us like that in my home state though.
Ed Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I think you need to read around the noah and the flood parts. He changed the animals and made them fit to eat around that time.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
You know you’re stuff ralph..thats good . you should be able to cross quote scripture and explain the real meanings and if you so happen to know root meanings of words, which I dont, that shows hows mistranslations happen.
I’ll contact you on your site sometime. soon
THANKYOUSIRMAYIHAVEANOTHER Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I am no scholar (and not a Vegan either) but I thought the bible said to eat the fruits and such.. no mention of animals.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
no verse condemning eating animals either, like you said nothing. i think earlier people appreciated and respected hunting as a right more than we do now. people have hunted since the dawn of our species, harnessing agriculture(which came MUCH later) could be interpereted as: “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.” without it meaning that plants are to be your only food.
Too many people read the bible with their own agendas in mind. thats the problem with a lot of christians
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Read Romans Chap 14. It is very clear. vrs 2 “One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.”
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Again though, this is a bit off topic, lets not get so distracted that we forget what is going on here. Call this ass hat, and set him strait! I have. Keep up the fight.
imaBeliever Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Matthew 15:11
“Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
Matthew 15:17
“Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated?”
Matthew 15:18
“But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.”
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Bible sez to stone a woman to death who got raped in town and did not “cry out” for help. Old times, and very hard-ass laws which were overturned in the new testament. Deuteronomy 10 goes on to suggest ( in one instance) fining the man involved (silver) while administering physical correction to the woman involved on her father’s doorstep. Much, much later, jesus says that those who are sinless may cast the first stone.
Bible says a lot of things. It’s several different books written by different men over time. It is a compendium of religious writting– a library. That’s why bible literalism goes so far off the rails. It leaves you pondering the length of a day in God’s estimation(Genesis) vs what we know as a day. Created the world in 6 days– yea, how long is that? If you feel in your heart fer shurzies that every word is to be taken literally– with no interpretation from your pastor, priest or self–then read Deut10:22 and get a bag of smooth fist sized rocks. Then you are commisioned to hunt down evil women who did not cry out.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Good response to a fundamental problem of using these bibical histories for all occasions. And yes according to the bible woman can be stoned to death, as is in Muslim texts and Jewish texts i bet , because they are coming from a same source of different histories in a region of the ARAB world
Jack Frost Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:30 am
I’m getting a strong feeling that the bible has been really warped along the way with the new , conveniants word replacements. We actually faced the same problem in our churchie type group thingy, when the original words of the teacher were changed after his death, to fit the desires, agendas of his suffocating male followers who wished to inherit the kingdom or assetes and followers.
So thats how quickly the words get changed and re=written into scripture.
Think about that one and try making your quotes taken as absoulute word of GOD, because it just is not anymore, but their is remaining a pure essences,
and that remains in all teachings. LOVE GOD with all thy heart and SOUL….and learn to love all his creation and creatures within creation., who are all parts of THE WHOLE.
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
6Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God.(Luke Ch 12)
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
yes it says to eat your fruits and vegetables, but where does it say that eating meat is wrong. So far you’ve only produces verses that mention selling birds. no mention of eating them.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
in my interperetation of those verses, the bible condemns the SALE of BIRDS(and possibly cows and sheep). but nothing about HUNTING.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Jesus threw over the tables of the money-changers and the sellers of doves because they were corrupt.
Ok, here’s the scenario. A poor couple comes into the temple to worship and sacrifice a pair of doves (also happened with beef and lambs). The kosher “animal examiner” says they aren’t suitable because they are “blemished”. Sells the poor couple another pair of doves at a highly inflated price, thus making obscene profit. Meanwhile takes the same doves the couple first brought in that he said were “defective”, and sells them to the next poor schmuck at a highly inflated price. THAT was the condemnation. These thieves were making merchandise off of people’s worship.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
I was just going on the verse he used to justify his claim. I knew there is more to all of the verses he’s quoting.
But thank you for clarifying that in a non-biased, non-agenda-pushing way. Unlike our pal here.
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
FredomLover= Right on the money. Has nothing to do with birds, but has everything to do with elitists Lording over the people, and profiting at there expense. There is nothing new under the sun.
WeHaveBeenDeceived Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
That was not the condemnation! They should not have been participating in commerce within the temple walls due to its upheld sacredness. Notwithstanding, the mere fact that you purchased the sacrifice renders its intended purpose useless. The idea of a sacrificial offering is that you give your best. Not side step this laborous process of finding the best and just purchasing someone elses best to give to God. Lazy Sunday one-day Christians do this now… ‘couple of dollars in the offering plate should do it”… Really, is that your best?
chuckieami Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
WeHaveBeenDeceived, and FreedomLover Are both correct. These two points don’t really disagree.
Marshall Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Ok so if eating animals is a sin then why did they eat lamb at the Passover in Exodus 12? Leviticus clearly outlines the dietary rules for the Jews and Priests and it does include meat…from animals. Jesus fed the 5,000 fish and bread, I don’t recall fish being a plant. Ralph the verse in Genesis was before the fall, God had decreed that man be on a plant diet. That changed after the fall obviously. The verses in John should not be used to say that Jesus was against meat, that’s rediculous. What he was saying is that the people in the temple were selling animals for sacrifices when the people should be bringing their own, basically. If you want to argue about food take it up with Paul in Romans 14 v13-23. Please don’t use Scripture to argue for your silly ideas.
Ralph Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
So Jesus the Lord of mercy and compassion approves of animals being tortured in NWO slaughterhouses?
As far as Leviticus, the rules and regulations are there to discourage meat eating by making it more difficult.I would also like to know who follows all the injunctions of Leviticus.Look at who owns and operates the slaughterhouses. It’s our old friends the NWO.Doesn’t that make anyone suspicious.
As far as Jesus and the fish,so why don’t you create a miracle and create fish from nothing and eat that or restict your meat eating to fish.What was Jesus supposed to feed fishermen.Does that mean Jesus approves of millions of animals being tortured to death by NWO owned and operated slaughterhouses.
If compassion to animals is outside the christian paradigm what about St.Francis of Assisi.
What about Seventh Day Adventists.
Wake up.Stop eating the satanic blood sacrifices of the NWO designed to make us violent, war mongering and blood thirsty.
If we continue to herd millions of sentient creatures into slaughterhouses we will similarly be herded into concentration camps to be tortured and slaughtered.(Sounds like FEMA camps doesn’t it)
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Ralph-
we got on this debate because you said HUNTING was wrong and condemned by god, you really have not made your case other than YOU are against EATING ALL MEAT.
Listen to Marshall, don’t use scripture to promote your personal views
p.s. I and MOST of the people here DO NOT APPROVE OF FACTORY SLAUGHTER. We were discussing A HUNTERS RIGHT TO OWN GUNS.
p.p.s. PETA KILLS ANIMALS
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Doesn’t matter. We are slated for population reduction anyhow. There is no rationale that will change their minds.
C Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
And for the record the “enemy of the poor animals” never stated whether it was a rifle or a handgun. So, you pretty much jumped the gun on that one…pun intended
Solution Man Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Wow, you’ve lost all creditablity with this post. When did this turn into a discussion about what Jesus approves? But since we are on the subject I specifically remember an angel of the Lord speaking to Peter in Acts for him to “Rise, kill and eat”. And in another location “To the clean, all things are clean.” I believe the scripture implies that Peter was obedient to kill and eat that which was once unholy for a jew, making the new covenant that which is of a heart of faith and not the letter of the law.
FEMA CAMP PIMP Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey Ralph,
Did Jesus not tell “them” to cast the nets from the other side of the boat when they caught no fish? And guess what they caught so many fish that it nearly sank the boat. What? You think they were going to be pets? They ate them you!
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Thank God an intelligent point that so many have no idea about. Yes many christians are vegetarians as was jesus. Im so tired of people who say they follow Jesus, not understanding his basic teachings, and yes the NWO makes blood scarcafices of animals and Humans to feed itself energy from those souls. Its called the dark Force or Satan or whatever name you all have for it, but one thing is for sure you are offerring the blood it craves by supporting mass sluaghterhouses , so dont complain , when they have accumulated so much power they walk all over your rights
Your strenght will come by not supporting its main arm of gathering your souls and if you knew what that meant, you would disgard that practise straight away. Kill your own meat if you have to, but dont support the blood factories of torture of sentient creatures, that God loves equally.
imaBeliever Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Matthew 6:25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
Matthew 15:11 “Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
Matthew 15:17 “Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated?” 18 “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.”
G spot Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Didn’t Jesus feed the masses with fish and loaves of bread.
Why is the fish any less of a being than the cow or the lamb. Sounds to me like some serious wires are crossed here.
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Annette how the f--- do you know jesus was vegetarian? LOL You sat next to him at dinner did you?
I can’t believe how you guys follow this bulls--- book quoting this and that as if it means s---.
Vigor Mortis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
This is a GUN RIGHTS ISSUE!!!!! How do some of you ASS-HELMETS turn this into an animal rights/ theology debate?! Must be the friggin flouride. I live near S’Port and would like to get some more pertainenet information. Did the officer confiscate his weapon, or give it back? Are There any links to this article in local papers? Has the NRA weighed in on this?
DAMN! Stick to the topic… WTF?
Brigand Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Vigor…
Gawd, they’re retards, aren’t they?…They remind me of a bunch of idiots talking in class in grade school while the others are trying to pay attention…they read the article, and then ass-neck ralph comes and posts something about animal rights…and then it’s on, the rest of them do the same thing…half the page taken up with their nonsense…and to top it off, they sit and respond to one another…it happens all the time here…infowars readers are for the most part a bunch of idiots…
vueflix Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Alert, Inform, Educate, Act!
the Activist Media
Greg Kombs Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Mayor Glover violated a citizens 2nd ammendment and is there fore guilty of treason against the american people! cedric glover should be treated as nothing less than a ttraitor and be brought up on charges of treason
Henry Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The mayor did more than condone the violation of the 2nd Amendment here, he also condoned an illegal search of his vehicle (4th Amendment), and the confiscation of his property (4th and 5th Amendments).
Voice of the Republic Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This so-called “mayor” also violated his Oath of Office to “…preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” Violating one’s Oath of Office is perjury. Perjury is a “…high crime and misdemeanor…” under the Constitution and grounds for impeachment. So, IMPEACH THE [expletive deleted] ALREADY!
Mr Baillio should file criminal charges against “Mayor” Glover (Perjury and Violation of Civil Rights) and a Civil Suit against the Shreveport City Government, for the return of his firearm(s) and for Punitive Damages, at the very least. I dare say Mr Baillio could get some legal help through the NRA or Gun Owners of America, or any of a number of other Pro-gun organizations, “Pro Bono”: heck, he could probably wind up with a whole legal TEAM of pro bono lawyers, and the City of Shreveport and the idiot “Mayor” will foot the bill!
If this case winds up in the Supreme Court, and Mr Baillio LOSES, then it’s time to Load and Lock, because there is no justice anymore and no Constitution: only a fight for survival, and ALL HELL HAS LET OUT FOR LUNCH!
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Also bumped up against free- speech issues, equal protection under the law concept, the 6th amendment; and the general rule about being a total idiot elected to office. He showed extremely poor judgement in selecting the hill to die on because this is not a case he can win. He so trashed the bill of rights that he has no all-purpose-weasel-clause that he could pull out in court ( if there were ever a suit). We either have a constitutional convention and trash the constitution, follow it (as he swore an oath to uphold), or nullify it ( which has already happened to some extent). Shrieveport chooses to nullify it and we know they have the authority to do so because the Mayor sez so.
Joe in Texas Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I had the unfortunate experience of going thru Katrina and living in New Orleans and 3 other LA towns; Lafeyette, Baton Rouge, and Shreveport. I will say I have seen a lot of crooks and traitorous pompous asses in L.A., but never to this degree. In fact, I worked security in New Orleans(gretna/westwego aka ghetto), and a co workers car was burgled. When the cops came they asked” Where you from boy?” and I proudly said Texas. “U got a gun?” Of course I do… “Well then you better start carrying it!”
I never went anywhere, unless drinking (per CHL guidlines), without my gun. It saved my life numerous times. This does not surprise me however, because I had my entire gun collection taken during Katrina. After the storm passed and the looting started, NOPD and national guard came door to door in our hotel and took all weapons. I took my 380 apart and stuck it in my shoe. They then left and 10 armed looters went through the hotel raping stealing and killing. I shot one dead and I breath today because I DID NOT give up ALL of my weapons. Call these folks and you will not get anywhere, but like me it will give you someone to hate and bitch at.
steven Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
This is actually not true bucolically man is given dominion over nature. Satan work more towards the destruction of man and the worship of nature and animals, take a look at romans 1
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Dominion, can also mean to take care of, look out for, protect.
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Take a look at Lao Tzu.
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
WOULD YOU PEOPLE EITHER SHUT THE f--- UP OR GET BACK ON TOPIC
Brian Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
What a perfect example of how the religious (nut) posts completely sidetracki the main issue. And, as always discourages doing anything concrete to preserve what freedoms we still have left.
Anti-Christ means instead of , not necessarily opposite to Christ. The Devil, or Elites don’t mind acting Christian or using superstitious fools and the mentally ill to further their agenda.I won’t choose between a phony Christian dictatorship and a more obvious NWO one.
Wake up and see that the “Christian” posts are the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing!
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Wrong, Brian. There are wolves in shepherd’s clothing, no doubt. But there are true believers in Jesus Christ who do not subscribe to NWO propaganda, nor go around spouting garbage or taking advantage of the general population. They are few, but they are real. “By their fruits you shall know them”.
St. Michael Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
This so called ‘nut’ is not a nut at all.. his post is steering you away from the news story of this page!
People its being done deliberately! Can’t you see this? Ignore him and make comments and share views that matter.
Remember you will have many on here who’s main purpose is to divide/conquer and sidetrack you.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Its not a divide and conquer tactic at all. thats silly. It was a person comming in and trying to take you to a root cause of humanities plight.
Dont be so paranoid
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
It was off topic end of story so shut the f--- up about your gay god.
Jack frost Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
would you like to step outside Mr rick and we’ll settle this matter of your rudeness to women.
red Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
I wouldn’t call it religion, I’d call it a case of extreme vegetarianism.
Rogueartist Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Who cares about this!! My State is trying to SUSPEND OUR SECOND AMNEDMANT and you all are debating eating a GAWDDAM STEAK!!!! WTF???
St. Michael Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
This is being done deliberately. Unfortunately some of you take the bait without thinking first. Wake up! Read my post above.
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
YOU are absolutely retarded and that bravo sierra, nonsensical philosophy ain’t gonna fly, you, like the irrelevants in our capital might swallow that horse crap for a small while, but, we will expurgate such insanity soon enough, you need to get your head on right dude, bunch of nutbars taking over our country, ya’ll can rot in hell peacnick, I will not stand idly by while innocent Americans are slaughtered and wrongfully imprisoned .
AnotherHK Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Example right here, extreme agreesive reaction at the mention or site of a sadhu
Red dawn now Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Exactly….sawho? what in tha crap are you babbling about now? are you referring to some esoteric name for satan? the one who makes everyone and everything but murderers, rapists, pedophiles,(such as M. jackson) serial killers and traitors miserable, who brings death and destruction and desolation and lies lies lies!? Is that who you are referring to? or something else?
AnotherHK Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I feel you want to do the right things in life, but theres so much more you need to understand as one sadhu once told his followers.
Not knowing or understanding and the societal brainwashing has lead us down the dark side of nature.
St. Michael Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
You are taking the bait!!!!! DON’T!!!! That’s exactly what they want!!!!
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
St Michael…now theres a name I search for , some dream I had where the name Michael was being told to me.
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Sadhu, is a concept from hindu philosophy. We welcome that since this is a religious disscussion board and we’re all open minded and desperate to prove it. I like Marcus Auralius. None of which has anything to do with what went down in Shrieveport ( which is a microcosm of the tricks going down coast to coast) ; but the de-railers know that.
AnotherHK Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Hi Ralph, good attempt, but these people here want to be violent to others generally, not speaking for everyone here, but that seems to be the main theme in society or life on this planet.
I get shivers of weirdness down my spine when I read that satan philosiphy bit as its kinda primative talk. Im sure there must be a better way to put that than in wierd fundy christian talk.
people if if they want to protect animals , like so many endangered species, often cant get there heads around that fact that animals are not there for general mass slaughter eating purposes.
Now maybe show links to the film Earthlings and maybe one ready soul will watch it and realise , violence begets violence and to be cruel and heartless , places you in the belly of the BEAST
Red dawn now Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
WE don’t want to be violent nitwit, violence is being forced upon us, our cvjhildren, with diseased ideas of marxism and perpetual slavery and genocides eugenics, no rapist, serial murderer, pedophile,( such as michael jacksomn) or mass murdering genocidal secular apparatchiks such as ( hitler, stalin, pol pot, genghis khan, shaka zulu, napolean, mao, kim il jung whoever) ever has been stopped with useless peacnickery! It didn’t work for William Wallace, the Founders tried in vein exhausting every peaceable means whatsoever, (moliter manus imposuit.) Genocidal scum, such as that we are now again witnessing the new beginnings of, has ever been stopped with words, it requires downright force, ( as our intrepid founders articulated so well ) because satan will not ever stop until we do as we are commanded and stop the ones it inspires!, such as the aforementioned mass murderers.
And because this is a perpetual battle between good and evil, it is necessary to source the bible and the stated goals of satan and those it inspires, such as bush,obama, hitler,and the ret who think likewise, observing occultic rituals, such as the bohemian grove where they revel in burning “effigies ” of children in the belly of a crapping owl, just as was done thousands of years ago in babylon and is the impetus behind the fable of the big red hot belly of satan clause! and eatser/estra goddess of fertility where they would murder the babies of virgins they had raped and burn them in these furnaces fashioned ike owls or calves etc., the dip[ eggs in their blood, hence easter eggs. Yo cannot separate wjhhat is going on with the teachings of the bible, the bible is meant to keep us FROM particpipating in such abominations for ours and our children’s sakes. Thi sis ALL about loyalty and whom YOU choose to be loyal to, satan and its followers, or YahVeh and those He inspires to good, to end slavery/oppression, lies and abominations etc., I choose YahVeh, therefore I fight for good, not evil as is the world governmnet and all its repugnant inventions against us.
AnotherHK Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I understand your sentiments and Im with you on them, but you are not understanding properly and first a soft heart must be there to understand.
m not against bibical teachings as I do understand them and Jesus was my first appreciation in life and remains so…but theres more to learn and it is there in the bible, but unless you get new teachers who have not been brainwashed by bloodlust and blood scarafices, as desires by NWO satanist, your ineffective or disarmed as goodness is not sitting on your side or the other Elites side.
But the Elite satanist have far more power than you because you are supplying them what they want, and that is BLOOD.
Please take time to watch this video, then come back to me and do your thing, but watch it first
http://video.google.com/videop.....4130308142
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I will watch the vid, but there is too much empirical evidence of the scriptures, and of Messiah Yahushua and the truths that YahVeh puts forth to set them aside for anything lesser.
These bloodlusts you speak of are not of the Most High rather inspired by the most low in its perpetual lust for vanity, idolatry, glory and counterfeiting and defiling everything the Almighty has done, which is why it and its followers were condemned, that is why Messiah came here, to save us from the pit that was created for them, we were never supposed to go there, but, like the fallen ones, who were VERY active in the Indian region,( and are the reason for the scorched earth areas there and in Africa etc.,) I would be referring to the nephilim, you people have differant names for them, the sumerian cuneiform refer to them as anunnaki! They are the ones who built the pyramids around the world including in south America and the mile wide one in the center of Australia! I was a big fan of Zecheria Sitchen and Lloyd Pye till I realized they were trying to supplant the scriptures with their work, as you people are, rather than reinforcing them.
You need to understand there is more to the bible, things were removed in contravention to the Almighty’s instruction, by the pharisees, the greeks, the English monarch and especially the romans to hide what you have learned, they didn’t want people knowing these things, we…in the Messianic movement are working to restore this knowledge, a well as Their Holy names which were defiled by the occultists who are inspired by the wicked one.
Now I will see you vid. and thanks for sharing.
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
nicely said red dawn im with you. It is being forced upon us. If im forced to take action then it will be for the sake of my country That I love and my family that I love.
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I don’t know who or what sadhu is, and I don’t care, I know YahVeh, Yahushua and the Holy scriptures which are daily proven true in content, prophecy and history.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Sadhu means a realised person of their spiritual identity as a servant of God. So you dont like that idea?
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Never heard of that, and it isn’t scriptural as far as I understand, so as of now…no.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Red dawn
You should like the idea, but i guess thats why we are in our little prison planet as we dont like to be servant of the High God creator Etc.
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I have been trying to respond to your strange comment about humanism, but the thought nazis aren’t letting me, I’ll just say that humanism is another decadent term for communism, the destruction of peoples faith in the Most High are predictaed to institute those subversive idealologies.
Why wouldn’t you want to follow the Most High that created you and the earth you say you love along with all His creatures whom He put us over?
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Following or wanting to be with my Lord has been a life long passion of mine, but I remain a humanist in that I care and I always cared about people and animals ever, since I remeber , going back to one of the most imbedded images of my childhood,
that of asking my mother why the Russian tanks are killing all those happy people in Cechoslovakia. just because they are having a peacefull declaration of freedom in their streets.
and asking her as an member of our planet from the age group who were doing killing of peaceloving freedom desiring men, women and children in the streets,
Why the rest of the world is not HELPING them.
The other worse embedded image from my childhood that made me aware how much pain I felt for other sentient beings was the image from America ,
of innocent students who had the right to protest the useless senseless killing of more people in Vietnam, of there own generation, who were being forced to be soldiers to do the killing for bloodthirsty war mongers,
Who were then ruthlessly and cowardly shots down as they stood , by men of their own country in uniforms….the national guard.
So yes Im a humanist and wanted to find a way out of a situation were people would not have to suffer ignorance any longer and no longer have this need to harm others.
I know better now ofcourse , Im my mom , I tried but accept people make their own choices , but how I still wish that we would evolve past our most basic primative state of killing needlessly….and yes learn to Love more than hate.
Yeah the thought police can be a bit heavy handed here,
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Sorry red dawn plugs been pulled on this HOt topic I referenced you some vids on youtube about what happened to the students a Kent state. google it. anyway best of luck mate
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
AnotherHK – What are you going on about the truth movement is a peaceful movement but we will defend ourselves against tyranny. In other words violence maybe needed to defeat the NWO but we are not the agressors, they are responsible for over 3000 innocent deaths on 911 and countless millions throughout the world.
Daniel Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
What is this first one? Do you then think that we can be violent to humans???? God actually allows the eating of meat and says to be nonviolent tohumans. You have it backwards.
doesn'tmatter Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
If you’re gonna own a gun you better learn how to shoot first. Screw the cops. If they want something from you, give it to them in LEAD!
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
most of the time cops are there to protect you. they are following commands. remind them of their duty to the country and the constitution first. If you are stuck in a bad situation and you have no means to protect yourself then who the hell are you going to call? winnie the pooh? no you will call the “cops” who you want to kill. They will be there doing everything in their power to protect your worthless ass. THEY WILL LAY THEIR LIVES DOWN FOR YOU. AND YOU WANT TO KILL THEM? REMIND THEM TO BE OATHKEEPERS. NOT ALL COPS ARE BAD. REMEMBER THAT. AND I WONT TOLERATE THAT KIND OF s--- ON THIS SITE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT KILLING POLICE OFFICERS (SOME OF WHICH ARE ON THIS SITE AND WILL FIGHT WHEN THE TIME COMES AT YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) JUST REMEMBER THAT FIRST. THANKS
Jill Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I lived in India so I have first hand experience. Hinduism turns people into caring more about animals than it does about human beings. People are dying of hunger or being killed in ethnic clashes and they care more about nobody harming the cows.
Making the life of a human being lower than the animals is a foundation of belief for satanists.
Hinduism is NEW WORLD ORDER all the way and India along with Israel are its back bone.
India Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
What india were you in….I did not see that
i saw an india where they are very cruel to animals and lower caste humans and their children….India had a great culture ONCE…it has lost the plot now but the original teachings are good. People use religion along the way to justify there own lust for lower sentiments that are contaminates of our Souls position.
All blind followers of any religion are just lacking discrimination not that they are NWO thats stupid…Lets just define NWO as basically illusion, MAY then, the Matrix.
India Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
If you all fought as hard as you do for the right to retain your freedoms as you do for your right to slaughter animals then maybe you would not have lost your freedoms.
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
You are right Jill, well said, I thought these people were going somewhere else with that nonsense, but now I see they are humanists, like you say, asserting we are equal to animals,etc., etc., ad nauseum..horse feathers, I do not advocate senseless injury and death of critters, but I do, we do have the right to hunt, the Almighty gave us this right, He gave us animals and plants etc., as food and as medicine!
Once my former pew potato pastors wife said upon her first day of nursing school, her teachers first words to the class were,” cows have no voice!” You have GOT to be kidding me, that is one good reason to NOT go to public education/college, they just brainwash, just as this recent influx of “hinduists” have.
The cointelpro people are constantly sending new kinds of people in here with these silly notions to try and “deprogram” us.
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Jesus Red, now you dont even like Humanist…what can be said..Im silenced by such lack of heart, care, I dont know what to say…lost for words as I do not comput your world.
brainy smurf Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
He should have resisted,shot the officer,then shot the mayor.At the trial,if found guilty,the jurors should be shot.
joshbot Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Brainy your over the line and compromising the credibility of Alex, this site, and the movement.
FULL AUTO Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
CHOCOLATE STATE AS THE NEW ORLEANS MAYOR WANTS !
Kublia Khan Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....lth_reform
Marty O'Trollstein Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I like Twinkies and cartoons. I have a big farm full of retarded attack dogs. I wear a tank top cuz I think I’am jacked. I love Micheal Jackson and everything he is about. Alex Jones is a traitor to this country! You are all nuts! I hope they arrest you all.
radhe Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:34 am
Haribol,
“as long as there slaughterhouses there will be killing fields” by Leo Tolstoi.
It is extremly sinful to eat meat for no reason other to satisfy the tongue.
“the day will come, when killing animals will be seen with the same view as killing man”
by Leonardo da Vinci
Hare Krishna
Freedom Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
this ones for you radhe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpdSh8VYd4
enjoy
RJB Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Notice how the post above is the first one, and is totally irrelevant to the article, and controversial, to say the least. It’s purpose is to cause any discussion to immediately veer off course into inanity and iirrelevancy. This person did not have a stated opinion, one way or the other about the article, which should have been a red flag. Why did they post at all if not a position relevant to the article? Nor is what was stated a well founded or well developed opinion in any case, which again raises the question as to why it was even posted.
I’ll tell you why. This is the work of a professional TROLL, and so many of you suckers here fell for it. Should have ignored it altogether. No wonder the freedom movement flounders as it does. No one knows how or when to pick their battles and direct their energies productively, and so just waste their time and energy, being led in circles, and being made fools of, by even bigger fools.
Patriot-er Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 5:32 am
All Blubber, no brains. He appears to have an exceptionally small cranium. I would demand an IQ test to see if this big child has what it takes to be in a position of authority. I’d like to see him cope in the military. They would harass the hell out of him. How did he get in office anyhow? Favor?, relative? Perhaps he feels he has nothing to fear with Obama and Holder holding his hand?
spilling drinks Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Costa Rica is the greenest and happiest country in the world, according to a new list that ranks nations by combining measures of their ecological footprint with the happiness of their citizens.
Britain is only halfway up the Happy Planet Index (HPI), calculated by the New Economics Foundation (NEF), in 74th place of 143 nations surveyed. The United States features in the 114th slot in the table. The top 10 is dominated by countries from Latin America, while African countries bulk out the bottom of the table.
BUT JUST ABOUT 1 MONTH AGO THIS FAT f--- “ALEX JONES” WAS SAYING THAT COSTA RICA WAS COLLAPSING, THIS MEN JUST MAKES ALL THIS INFORMATION AS HE GO ALONG AND ALL OF YOU WHO LISTEN TO THIS PORKER ARE A BUNCH OF FOOOOOLSSS HAHAHAHA
IF YOU KEEP LISTENING TO THIS IDIOT YOUR BRAINS ARE THE ONES WHO’S GOING TO COLLAPSE HHAHAHAH
ac Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
This link has nothing to do with this issue and s/b deleted.
Gary Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I have a CCL, and to even be considered for one a THOROUGH background check by STATE police is conducted. This means that people with CCLs are in no way a danger to anyone. They have proven that they have NO criminal record, are familiar with gun laws, and are trained to handle a weapon safely. This “the police are trying to protect you from yourself” rhetoric is anti-gun, Democrat BULLs---. If the State Police say I am safe to carry a concealed weapon, who do the city police think they are to contradict that? Or a politician, for that matter. SUE THEIR ASSES!!
BTW, Mr Baillio did the correct thing when pulled over – according to the laws of LA, it is a CCL holder’s duty to VOLUNTARILY reveal he has a CCL and chooses to EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO CARRY AT THIS TIME. Who does this uppity mayor think he is to deny or suspend this right?
And don’t they have mods on this forum? Wake up and get this religious meat/vegan debate off the boards – f%$#in A.D.D. assholes – shut up and eat your Ritalin!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:56 am
If they can fake the commercial planes on 9/11….they can take away your right to own a gun?
stewie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
there was no “faking commercial planes on 9/11″ — I worked at the recovery sites and handled plane wreckage in my own hands.
Steve Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
The “fake commercial planes on 9/11″ is a dis information campaign out of Tel Aviv.
IGNORE THEM.
ac Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am
You helped to obstruct justice by removing evidence from a crime scene.
Wake up before you lose your soul.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
These people are going to be hung for treason. I can’t wait for this to start. No ending till every f---ing one is hung for treason…. EVERY f---ING ONE!!!!
Kayhla Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I think you are about to get your wish… now where did I put that organic popcorn…
EyesOpen Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I agree Scott. I hope justice is dealt. These power hungry maniacs must die in to save humanity. Stay true.
Annette Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Now see whats happened that you have left subject matter pretaining to our higher purpose God etc. You’re talking murderous thoughts, not nice, just see. you were all complaining about the relationship of subject matter , so you take a dive.
jerry Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
absolutely scott. its time to water the tree of liberty once again. poor thing has been wilted for a while now
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
IF THINGS WORK OUT WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL NOT TO DROWN THE DAMN TREE. REMEMBER THAT.
Theywontchipme Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Good luck finding a rope for THAT fat f---!
THANKYOUSIRMAYIHAVEANOTHER Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
word
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
AhMein brother! A great and terrible day that will be, for we will also lose many of our own, but at least we will be free, we are all losing loved ones anyway, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain! Esprit de corp!
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
IT WOULD HAVE TO START WITH THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE, THEN THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, THEN WORK TO THE STATE GOV’TS THEN TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THIS COUNTRY IS CORRUPT AT EVERY LEVEL. THE BEST SAYING IN THE WORLD IS
“POWER CORRUPTS, AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY”
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
No sir, there are powers that be way above the executive, even in our country there are subrosa forces that dictate the mutts moves.
Internatioanlly, there are thebuilderbergers, rockerfellers,rothschilds, maurice strong etc., et., that is the head of the snake, the shado gov. as occultistbuswh alluded to.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Yes I have a gun in my truck and NO you can not serch it without a DAM WARRENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ben Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Damn Warrant!! But it sounds like that would only get you tasered or worse in Shreveport. HOW DARE YOU DEMAND A WARRANT, YOU LOW LIFE FREAKING SCUMBAG!!!
brainy smurf Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
If you’re white,heterosexual and believe in God,why do you hate America?
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
LOL BECAUSE LET ME QUOTE “___ white,heterosexual and believe in God,” + BLOND HHAIR BLUE EYES AND SUCH IS A DIEING BREED. WE HAVE NO RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY. IM NOT RACIST ONE BIT I JUST DONT THINK ITS FAIR THAT THERE IS BET NETWORK BLACK THIS BLACK THAT. IF THERE WAS WHITE ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK IT WOULD BE SHUTDOWN THE NEXT DAY. IF THERE WERE WHITE COLLEGES THE SAME THING. PEOPLE NEED TO JUMP OFF THE BANDWAGON OF THAT CRAP. I DONT HATE ANY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE. ITS THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON THAT I DONT LIKE. AND THAT HAPPENS AFTER I HAVE GIVEN A FEW FAIR CHANCES FOR ME TO LIKE THEM. I DONT CARE IF YOUR WHITE BLACK PINK PURPLE BLUE CYAN OR WHATEVER COLOR THERE IS IF YOUR AN ASSHOLE THEN YOUR AN ASSHOLE PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Appalling..I am speechless at how candidly that fat bastard said “Oh well chump, tough luck”..
July 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Alex your spot on thats why the media make fun of country music , cause its feel good music most of the time ,well they do here in the uk you cant get it anywhere but the net.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Hey Scott, that makes alot of sense. In the name of ending madness & corruption around the country let’s just kill everyone who violates rights. How in the world would that be better than what they are doing? Are they wrong? Hell yes they are. Do they need to be punished? Absolutely. Should we hang them? No. Don’t be a crazy extremist. What they are doing is wrong but you’re no better for wanting to hang “every f---ing one” for “treason”. I really hope that people like you don’t come into power one day. I don’t want your warped sense of right & wrong to one day be the deciding factor on whether or not something I did deserves to be punished, and to what extent.
de obvious Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Hanging is the only appropriate punishment for treason. PUBLIC hanging.
THANKYOUSIRMAYIHAVEANOTHER Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Jon… treason is treason.
55 men did not sign the Declaration of Independence because it was politically correct to do so.
Red dawn now! Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
And we don’t know who those loser, cowardice traitors were and don’t care, they had nothing to do with the construction of the greatest legal document ever written and our country, they lacked the balls to be of benefit, so they are appropriately forgotten as well they should be!
We have no need of useless men as that, they were instructed to part company, to forget that they were our countrymen, that we sought neither their counsel nor their arms, to lick the jack boots of the mutts they served.
Just think, if William Wallace had been allowed to go into england and purge that once great country of those treasonous tyrants, we would have not HAD to have a revolution, if WE had learned from our founders and done as they said and guarded the jewel of liberty with jealousy, and the bible, WE would not have t o relive the war they suffered and sacrificed for us! Now, if WE don’t stand and do as they did, OUR children will have t,o but will not win because they do not have the knowledge and training and arms WE have now!
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
HISTORY WAS NOT WRITTEN BY PUSSIES. THESE POLITICIANS ARENT 1/100000000 OF WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE. THEY HAD RESOLVE TO STAND UP TO TYRANNY AND WHEN THE TIME CAME TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVED IN. WASHINGTON AND A FEW OTHER FOUNDING FATHERS ACTUALLY FOUGHT IN THE WARS. LED MEN ON THE FRONT LINES. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE POLITICIANS GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO THE SAME, IF THE FOUNDERS CAME BACK TO LIFE THIS DAY- RIGHT NOW THEY WOULD COMMIT WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF EVERY PERSON- BECAUSE WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR, BLED FOR AND DIED FOR WAS COMPLETELY DISGRACED= – IE.–s--- ON, PISSED ON, BURNED, AND COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DEFILED. NOW YOU TELL ME WHO THE HELL ARE WE TO NOT TRY TO LIVE UP TO AND TRY TO UPHOLD THEIR LEGACY—-AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE THEM PROUD?
Kevin Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Jon STFU…..u wimpy biatch!!!
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Jon–
YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULDNT HAVE TO BE EVERYONE OF THEM AFTER A FEW THE PEOPLE WOULD GET THE IDEA STRAIT IN THEIR HEAD AND ACT CIVIL. ITS NOT BEING RIGHT WING OR EXTREME IF WE ARE FOLLOWING VERBATIM WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS. AND WHAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS LAID DOWN IN THAT AWESOME DOCUMENT. READ THE CONSTITUTION AND GET YOUR FACTS STRAIT YOU TROLL
July 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
the picture for this article says it all
dumb ass FAT watermellon eating assholes having a go at running this country .
current events are about to make me go race crazy . f--- reparations for slavery and f---
redistribution of wealth to the african americans …slavery ended in this country IT DID NOT start here . get over your selves ….or go back to africa and make some “change” there . no more affirmative action
you people are vindictive , selfish , greedy , generally less intelligent , and spoiled rotten
get the f--- out of here and go stop the constant black on black murder and rape in your OWN country .
sickening
jason Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
90% of rapes on white women are committed by black males. 0% of rapes on black women are commited by white males <—– Dept of Justice Statistics
LirrenShentai Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
How the f--- is that relevant? Don’t you even start with that racist s---…I’m not gonna take that anymore. Same for f---ing Purifier! STFU.
living to love Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
That was not racist opinion . It was a known fact that has racial implications. It would be different if it were an opinion.
I knew a person’s mother that was raped by black men. It changed her life forever. She can’t have sex without flashbacks. Sounds like hell to me.
It still doesn’t mean every black male rapes women in general. It is just an alarming statistic about rape as far as I am concerned.
St. Michael Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Peopl, you are being attacked by NWO shills…. think before you reply. Don’t take the bait. Sigh.
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I AGREE DO NOT BE RACIST TO FELLOW INFOWARRIORS. THATS HORSE s---. WERE IN THIS TOGETHER NO MATTER THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN
ShawnJ Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Sounds like the pot calling the kettle “Black.”
July 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
PLEASE WATCH THIS VID INFOWARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
July 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
He had a concealed carry permit. Again, when you apply for this – you turn a right into a priveledge. The permit requires you to inform government you are armed when detained. Never, ever get this permit. You don’t need it, the 2nd amendment is all that is requiered ….and bear arms…
In fact, never enter into any contractual arrangement with gov’t or banksters whenever possible and you will have your freedom.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
In VA we are under no obligation to disclose if we have weapons. You have a right to NOT speak. In VA we are only required to show license and registration. Insurance if there is an accident. That’s it.
Jason the Fed
July 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
You have whatever rights you give to yourself, and are willing to defend with you life. You are your own ruler, not these clowns. The Revolution Starts With You.
Declare Independence,
http://www.natejanowicz.com
ben Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Wow, great philosophy for a country. Sure hope murderers, rapist, and child molesters don’t take your idea to heart. We should just demand a return to the constitution and eliminate all the “precedence” that has undermined it!
Nj Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Yeah your right… Don’t personally declare your rights. Now that’s a great philosophy. If you won’t stand up for yourself… ?
http://www.natejanowicz.com
July 7th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
It’s amazing on how many pieces of crap are getting into office.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Another DOUCHE BAG Cop LOL!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
in wa state if you dont tell em you have a concealed carry, and they stop you, and they find out you are packing, they will rough you up…yelling threats, and eventually quiet down, after you tell them you either 1)didnt know, and pleeeease dont hurt me…..or 2) you shoot them . if you make a stink about “rights”, you will go to jail, and lose ur weapon.
cb Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Lets Try again you do not have to tell them in wa state that you are carrying a gun when you are pulled over.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Hey Scott if you are a piece of s--- that will trample on our right and subjugate the constitution then yes your ass is going to SWING if you cant handle it thats your problem grow a spine man.
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Uhh lol i meant jon not scott
Jon Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Truth,
I’m willing to bet that if push came to shove, you wouldn’t actually fight. You’re probably just an instigator. A pussy. Someone who champions for rights behind the safety and relative anonymity of the internet. You wouldn’t actually have the balls to say or do anything to a cop if this exact situation was presented to you. Even if you attempted to tell him your rights, all he’d have to do is tell you to shut up and you’d back down. Big man. Call me a piece of s--- all you want. You’ll still be a faceless & empty voice on the internet who tries to act all big & bad on subjects that you know damn well you’re not. I’m all for making criminals pay for their crimes. Is what this cop and mayor did bad? Yes. Does it require them to hang for it? No, I don’t think so. That’s all. I am for capital puishment though, and the death penalty when it comes to matters of treason. This, however, is not “treason”. This is a couple of people who are on power trips and think that because Obama’s in power they can do what they want. They should be fired, not killed. Unfortunately in this country not even that happens anymore. Officials are no longer responsible for their actions and that is a sad, scary state that we’re in.
I agree with the fact that they need to be punished. We just seem to disagree on the method of punishment. By the way, my spine is fine
I own 3 guns & my roommate owns 1 of her own. Let someone try to come in and take them. Then you’ll see just how strong my spine really is.
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
LOL WTFE dumb ass i am willing to bet if i was in your face you wouldnt talk that kind of trash you you are a f---ing moron to think you know someone im tha one that will break you face so just keep drinking your f---ing kool aid and STFU
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
DON’T FORGET THE FLUORIDE WATER. I OWN AN ARSENAL ALSO. AND I DON’T PLAN ON LETTING MY RIGHTS GO DOWN THE TUBE. I LIVE IN ILLINOIS WHERE GUN RIGHTS ARE ALMOST NON EXISTENT AND EVERY TIME I GO TO ONE OF THE FEW RANGES THAT ARE HERE IM SCARED OF GETTING PULLED OVER AND ALL OF MY $$ AND RIGHTS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY. EVERYTHING I HAVE IS LEGAL, BUT IT DOESNT MATTER. BE SAFE—–IM AN OATHKEEPER AND MY SPINE IS STRONG
Kevin Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Jon u are a piece of s---……..pussy, biatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kevin Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
ur spin is as limp as ur dick
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
and furthermore its the people that would do the trasmpleing of our constitution that are the pieces of s--- so if the shoe fits…..
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Typical. Hose down the thread with testosterone. And DO nothing. Empty posturing. Gives the infowarriors a nice warm fuzzy feeling to know that there are big, bad packing warriors on their way to free the slaves.
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
this is an A and B conversation you can just C your way put of it.
Annette Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Freedom..Im glad you admit the nose dive full of bluster , not going anywhere big talk, just for that warm fuzzing feeling as you say.
I prefered the first half ..
July 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
It would appar that Mayor Glover is looking to end his political career, possibly earlier than the next election, if any of the “stories” about Bayou folk are true.
A for giving them up willingly, etc., I say open that big ol’ lyin’ mouth and i’ll hand it to you, with gusto, butt first.
ac Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 11:13 am
The voters is Shreveport are more than 51% black. I doubt Glover fears losing his job. If he does it would probably be to another Obamaite. I think the Chief of Police is also black.
pamalama Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
ac you are correct about Glover not fearing for his job – I heard several people state that they voted for him and Obama because they ARE black not for what they believed in. I live north of Shreveport – am a avid hunter – have a girls hunt 2 sticker and a NRA sticker on my pickup and yes, I carry an equalizer – I don’t go anywhere without it because the crime rate in Shreveport is so high. There are killings and drivebys and car jackings all the time here. Let them come in my house and I have an arsenal waiting on them. The Chief of Police is also black but he has so far done a good job or is trying to if Glover will allow him to do so. I think Glover has made a tactical error and I hope he pays for it. If I get stopped and they take my gun even if I have a CCL, there will be hell to pay. I have a lawyer on retainer and am not scared to use him! I have called Glover’s office and have voiced my opinion – everyone else needs to, too, before our right is taken away from us…. it is one small step at a time and before we know it, everything will be taken away. We have to fight and we have to fight now! No one needs to hang – they just need to wake up and remember our forefathers that have fought and died to make us free and gave us these rights.
ac Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Thanks for your reply. It appears African American politicians may be exerting racist policies against the White minorities in certain cities and countries where African Americans have the majority.
ac Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Correction:
Thanks for your reply. It appears Black politicians may be exerting racist policies against the White minorities in certain cities and countries where Blacks have the majority.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
f--- PIGS FUC K EM
July 7th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I live in washington state and have a infowars.com sticker on my car and I carry a gun and have a weapons permit They better not pull this s--- on me or civil lawsuit will follow.I have a hidden cam and audio pen to record the thugs if this does happen to me.
hologram5 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Awesome, don’t give in and don’t give up. I live in Seattle, here in Washington state we have an open carry law, you can carry your pistol in a side holster legally.
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
That’s why I never go to Washington when I feel like brawling.
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I LIVE IN CHICAGO AND WE NEED AN OPEN CARRY LAW, WOMEN FEAR BEING RAPED – AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DONT KNOW CHICAGO IS THE MURDER CAPITOL OF THE WORLD. LOOK AT EVERY STATE THAT HAS A CARRY LAW THE CRIME IS ALMOST NON EXISTANT. JUST GOOGLE CRIME RATES. I WAS ROBBED AT GUNPOINT AT 2PM IN DOWNTOWN CHICAGO AND IM SURE IT WAS AN ILLEGAL WEAPON, AND IF I HAD MINE IM SURE THAT IT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This will be promptly deleted but what the hell.
Blacks will resort to tyranny in very short order if given the opportunity,we see this with AG Holder and so many other Blacks that it really confirms a trend
Aaron Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Hey shill. You guys tried to paint the freedom movement as racists back in the 90’s. We are on to your tricks and they won’t work anymore. Go someplace else.
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
So, they think with their skin do they? What if they are only one quarter? Do the genetics of goodness then take over? Or are those drops of ink in the buckett of white paint too strong?
Maybe Aaron is on to something; you are kind of shilly. DAMN!! I took the bait!!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
GUYS MAKE SURE YOU CALL THIS FAT BASTARD AND LET HIM KNOW IT IS NOT OK TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLES LAWFULLY OWNED FIREARMS.(318) 673-5050.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
“I as a Police Officer I perceive a threat, so up against the wall”. They get away with it, or if you buckup you can die. For the sake of the children.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
people in Shrevport need to get this out and vote that fat bastard communist out, and let him know it!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
This incident doesn’t surprise me at all. What it does do is make me shudder in knowing that not only a “peace officer” but also a sitting Mayor of a large metropolitan area can be so IGNORANT of our Constitutional Rights. I suppose that they also are so IGNORANT that they do not realize the jeopardy of liability that this incident has put their City at risk of. There ARE juries that will side with Mr Baillio, and I hope to see this happening, as had this been myself, I would DEFEND MY 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAWS THAT SHALL PREVAIL OVER THIS LAND OF AMERICA.!!
May God help the citizens of Shreveport, LA.
kswatcher Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
LOL There won’t be any trial. Heard about the 13 year old little girl that was strip searched? The court said it was a violation of her civil rights, but also determined that the perps had immunity.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Everyone should be flooding the mayors office with calls – 318-673-5050. The secretary will take a message and the mayor will call you back! Nice. I wonder if ole’ Cedric just transfers the callback list straight to Homeland Security? If your not on “the list” yet it means you haven’t been speaking out and defending the constitution anyway. What the hell kind of town makes up it’s own laws? Unamerican and cannot stand. Make the call now.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I don’t know about the making their own laws bit – are they revolting against the NWO by taking charge of their own town? Or are these NWO shills jumping the gun on the takedown of the 2nd amendment. My guess and bet would be the latter.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Some comments would hold alot more weight if words were spelled correctly. (DAMN WARRANT!!!!)
July 7th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
someone needs to pop his fat smug head like a water mellon
July 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
The electorate of Shreveport picked that fat pig to be their mayor.
Says alot about Shreveport.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Today’s blacks are pathetic!
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
DUDE IM NOT TAKING THE BAIT YOU SHRILLY TROLL
July 7th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Call the mayors office everyday for the next week or two. If they’re busy answering to us they won’t have time to run their corrupt government. Call everyday seriously if their answering our calls they won’t have time for anything else. Just right the number down like I did and keep it buy the phone for the next week. Be polite, and tell them they don’t have that kind of power under the constitution.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Why *aren’t* we SHOOTING, YET..!?
-Uzziel-
III
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Good f---ing point, bro. If not now, when?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Again illusional that the constitution does not apply. The Constitution gives you the right period. Even if a permit is applied as far as contactual it is in fact the constitution overrides that. You have the right to bears arms whether you tell someone or not. Have a permit or not. Permits were created after the fact. Way after the fact in fact. It is in fact a contradiction to your constitutional rights to enter into a contractual agreement like that. The constitution trumps a permit.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Cedric Glover, his cops, and the likes of them in many countries might soon be treated like putrid meat. If it happens, it will be difficult to feel sorry for them, no matter what they endure.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Plea The 5th. They Haven’t Suspended That… Yet.
http://www.natejanowicz.com
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I ONLY HOPE THAT THE “POLICE OFFICER” THAT EVER TRIES THIS BULLs--- WITH ME HUGS THEIR “SIGNIFICANT OTHER” BEFORE THEY LEAVE HOME…I’M SURE IT’LL BE A GREAT COMFORT TO THEM IN THEIR COMING GRIEF…………
No Tears 4 Dead Cops Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Amen to that! I welcome any PIG to try that on me. Im not afraid of ANYONE or ANYTHING. f--- fear. I will end anyone who violates my God given rights. ALL cops are pussies with a gun and a badge. SO f---ING WHAT. Attention to all thought police monitering this; when the revolution begins YOU will be the first to die. Then the scum sucking politicians you protect will be hung in public, then all the media bitches, then lawyers, then the bottom feeding public that sap the life out of this country with their lazyness. I wont stop shooting until you all are dead!
I will not quit ever and I swear before God I will have no regrets on cutting the CANCER of those that have effected this great nation. You can call me a terroist all you want, in the future I will be held up high as a Partiot for Freedom.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
It’s not right or fair to lump the good in just because the bad get all the attention. Where I live, the police are mostly good guys who come to your aid, however and wherever they can. Sorry if that’s not true where you live.
American Liberation Front Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
THANK YOU. POLICE WILL BE THE FIRST TO LAY THEIR LIVES DOWN FOR YOU. DONT EVER FORGET THAT. MOST ARE GOOD SOME ARE DOUCHBAGS. REMIND THEM TO BE OATHKEEPERS.
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
From my experience, and I know and have known MANY cops personally, you got it backward. SOME are good, MOST are douchebags. Hell, any honest cop will tell you the same.
Daniel Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
seriously dude?…the majority of police officers in this country support our American right to bear arms. Yes there are exceptions to this, as there is with ANYTHING. We do have enemy communist dictators in office among us that want nothing more than a defenseless police state. But, please do not think of ALL police officers or officials in that way. If they were ALL like that, we would have been well into country wide martial law a llloonngg time ago. 30%+ of MOST police officers are ex-military, EXACTLY the persons you would be SO LUCKY to have next to you during AR-2. Pardon my french, but you are a f---ing ‘tard.
oldenough Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hey “No Tears 4″ You need to be picked up and taken away. You are not good for any person who is just looking to be left alone and enjoy the freedoms that our laws allow us to have. Tell your mom that you are sorry, and that this time you really will get a job and move out. Now clean up your basement, and take out the trash.
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Yes, Rambette, of course.
stewie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
get over yourself
July 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
he was a idiot he talked to the police without knowing his rights … mindlessly taking to the police .. kibosh Mr.Baillio is a real shmoiger lol
July 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
The people resisted so George Washington sent out the militia to collect the tax which they did. This has become known as the Whiskey rebellion. It is the Militia’s duty to collect taxes. How did the United States collect taxes off of the people if the people are not a party to the Constitution? I’ll tell you how. The people are slaves! The United States belongs to the founding fathers, their posterity and Great Britain. America is nothing more than a Plantation. It always has been. How many times have you seen someone in court attempt to use the Constitution and then the Judge tells him he can’t. It is because you are not a party to it. We are SLAVES!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
i like budlight and smokin dope going to the ball game,i like mj too.god bless amerika!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Hey, hey, hey. Let’s not lump all the good things in life together and call anyone who indulges and idiot. Bud and bud are wonderful things. MJ, not so much. Altho, I still do like his early stuff.
guess now he’s dead, we can transfer the old joke about him over to Rockefeller or Kissinger, i.e.:
Q: Why did David Rockefeller show up at Wal-Mart?
A: He heard little boys’ pants were half-off.
Bada-bing!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
The government is making this a self fulfilling prophecy. I’ve never hurt a fly, except a couple of white tail deer, or a couple of pheasant and rabbits. I’ve been in a couple of fist fights in my life, only when I was left no choice but to fight. They are leaving me no choice but to fight. God help the revenuers propping up this new world order system. I don’t hate you, but you have definitely been dehumanized in my eyes. To think you’d capitulate to something like this, against your own people, your pretty much a bloated sack of walking meat target. Like the end of Mice and Men, I pity you, your a sick animal, that needs to be put down humanly.
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
heres what i think about it , its all been done before , to all of us ,
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
heres what i think about that
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Now back to the Militia. Just read Article One Section Eight clause (15) which states that it is the militia’s job to execute the laws of the Union. Now read Clause (16) Which states that Congress has the power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…. the Militia is not there to protect you and me, it is their duty to collect our substance. As you can plainly see all the Constitution did is set up a Military Government to guard the King’s commerce and make us slaves. If one goes to 8 U.S. statutes at large 116-132 you will find “The Treaty of Amity, Commerce and Navigation”. This Treaty was signed on November 19th, 1794 which was twelve years after the War. Article 2 of the Treaty states that the King’s Troops were still occupying the United States. Being the nice King that he was, he decided that the troops would return to England by June 1st, 1796. The troops were still on American soil because, quite frankly the King wanted them here.
stewie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Actually, the Treaty you’re referring to was signed in 1778 and it was with the KING OF FRANCE (NOT ENGLAND). Obviously, the French had troops here because they were our strongest military supporter during/ just after the Rev War.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I read under the picture caption that the mayer claims to have the power to suspend the constitution. Talk about delusional. No one has the power to suspend the constitution it is always in affect for an american citizen at all times 24/7 every second every millisecond and can never be suspended. Suspension of the constitution for any reason is infringment. This mayor just committed treason to his country. The officer never addressed the issue about a turn signal which now just made it an unlawful stop. He search the vehicle and took the gun which has now become an illegal search and seizure. So the officer just commited theft as well. And the mayor backed up his officer which now makes him an accomplice to this. This is how they do it in law to convict regular people of crimes. I know all too well from experience. Also it does not state whether or not if he was in a deceleration lane or not. If he was he was not required by law to use his turn signal. This is just flat out corruption of a mayor and police department stating we are going to do as we please and nothing you can do about it. And how many other police departments and mayors are going to follow suit with this. This man should sue the heck out of shreeveport. But as they have trampled on his rights so blatantly they may just blatantly step on his rights for a lawsuit justifying themselves in some pathetic way.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Thugs in office. Cedric needs to be shown the door. Bat flastard. Makes me think of Kwaaaamee Killedpatrick, former (m)ayor of Detroit. Another thug. One that got off to easy. But Detroit has a history of liking and electing black thugs. The only descent black (M)ayor was Archer. Cedric needs a nap.
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
all the urban scenes in my video are from the D , some of the fireworks cele frm 09 too , tell me what you think ,
they have done this to all of us before
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
July 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
so that citizen could have shot the cop then right? since he had no right to take the weapon
sad day for the Republic Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
read the constitution! he would have been justified. Come on people, how are we gonna straighten out this country if no one reads historical documents anymore? And the militia is not some goverment enforcement entity. A goverment by the people and for the people.
I AM THE MILITIA. IT’S YOUR DUTY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION!
WWW*UNITEDSTATESMILITIA*COM
(remove asterics and insert . {they censor correct websites})
Long Live the Republic!
Southwest 1ST Rifle, 3rd bn/36FF
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
And here we go.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Does this mean that the food police can come and confiscate the food away from the obese mayor?
drlove 1978 Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
funny as hell!!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Just called the Mayor’s office, and this is what they told me:
The Mayor has instituted this policy so that he can turn the guns in to the Feds as illegal weapons, from which he gets a $500 reward. then he immediately calls KFC for take-out. “Fi’ hunnad dollaz bi’z a whole lotsa gizzards!”
July 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Well, the Shines need special exceptions for everything. Laws for civilized people and for those who still have ape-like agression and primate tantrums can’t be the same. I can hear the Ebonic reply now;” He be rasis, don”t be dissin me Honky or I’ll put a cap in yo ass” proving my point.”
DM Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
And another uneducated racist shill shows his ugly mug on this site. I know of plenty of people of various races and cultures (including Blacks and Whites) that would prove Margaret Sanger right. I supposed you subscribe to her secret newsletter, hmm? Instead of fostering division amongst the intelligent people gathered here, perhaps you can do your part by educating everyone (regardless of skin color or origin) who is American about what’s going on around us. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it does nothing to bring forth a solution for everyone except demonstrate your hatred and it also generates baseless opinions amongst those who may not have much cultural exposure.
Brian Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Sorry DM, I’m a telecommunication engineer with a gifted IQ well within the top 3% of the population.
What part of your brain turned off for you accept that all people are the same? Or maybe you never had to spend time where there is a high enough concentration of Blacks that they feel free to “express” themselves. Or did you just graduate from the modern classroom that had to dumb down the subject matter to near special education ( retarded ) levels just so Blacks could pass without it being too obvious they are un-educatable.
The picture in the article almost is a great visual aid that Blacks are too distracted be always being ready to throw a tantrum, or start “dancing” with posing taking up the bulk of any remaining awareness they can muster.
Dumb ass, unless we cut the dead weight of trying to help the hopeless minorities and elderly, there won’t be enough energy left to fight the NWO. That’s why the Elites forced through integration and the propaganda that we should pretend to all be equal.
How did the Hebrews conquer the Promised Land after leaving Egypt? They spent 40 years in the Wilderness weeding-out the weak. I suspect that the SS camps helped accomplish this more rapidly during WWII so that the surviving Jews dominated a new harsh land against what should have been overwhelming odds of a population disadvantage.
Wake up to reality and toughen-up damn it, there will be no do-overs in this battle against tyranny!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Oh I forgot to mention that the cop pointed to the back of the man’s truck when “In fact, when Baillio asked the officer if everyone he pulls over gets the same treatment, the officer said no and pointed to the back of his truck.” When the officer did that he just confessed to profiling a driving. In this case political profiling. So this only strengthens the driver’s case if he wants to press it.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Let’s march NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
or face the consequences
July 7th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
aghhh more crazy bullsh*t. wonderful. so they had no grounds to take his weapon? how did they just get away with it that easy? this guy should get a lawyer and sue the whole state.
American Patriot Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:13 am
better yet he should call his local militia
and let them deal w/police and the mayor lets see how they like being surrounded with a couple hundred well armed men there to give a come to jesus meeting!
i think fat man and unconstitutional cop would remember well that the 2nd amendment is forever!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
AMEN! I’m only 45 minutes from Shreveport. Me n 3 or 4 more can b there in an hour with assault weapons in hand. f--- this s---.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Time for a new mayor shreveport citizens, and if t he next mayor is the same way vote him or her out. Otherwise move out of the Nazi city.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
This is not meant in anyway to be racist or hateful towards black people.
I just can’t help noticing how when black people get into positions of authority they seem to only take the tyranny to the next level. Whether they be cops,judges,prosecutors,mayors,and yeah presidents! and still so many blacks seem to celebrate when more blacks get positions in authority!
When will they wake up?? They are getting s--- on even worse by many of these people!
Is all that matters to them is race? Just another black face, alright for us? We’re better now?
but yet the poor blacks out there are getting s--- on even more as a result of it?
Like the Margaret Sanger idea of using blacks to wipe out the black race. This is something that needs to be said and people should not be afraid of saying it. The real racists are the certain blacks out there that want to ignore what is really going on and feel good like the black race is winning over the white race everytime another black person gets into another authority position.
It shouldn’t be like that. I think most of us welcome a good honest black person anyday.
Like a Cynthia Mckinney over an Obama.
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
they have done this to ALL of us as citizens of this country at one time or another ,
‘ defenders of liberty , no compromise , no surrender. ‘
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
The Ghost of Tom Joad Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Most of them are awake, remember they’re were the ones beta tested, for the American New Century. The real brothers know an Uncle Tom when they see one coming. This gigantic, Java the Hut, piece of s---, was probably paid off in land deals and blowjob’s from white, call girls. I know some real brothers and sisters, and their momma’s didn’t raise no fools.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
You make a good point. Every culture has its evil people. I do so hate to see people like Big O sitting in office and saying “we finally made it, and now we’re gonna flaunt it”, as if color was the only characteristic that matters about people. Martin Luther King didn’t use his “color” as an excuse to say he was better than anyone else.
YES, people who enslaved blacks were wrong. But so were those who abused the Cherokee on the Trail of Tears, Nazis who murdered whites for standing up against them, and every other tyrant the world has ever known.
ALL people bleed red. ALL people have heartaches, commit sins, need to be loved and appreciated. But those that have to stomp on everyone else to do it have serious mental problems.
GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!!! Color/culture does not matter. Character is the only thing that matters.
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
each of us though has the right / obligation in some cases to perserve thier heritage/culture ,
but i agree, we should all see the kinship we do share as citizens of this country , each and everyone of us , if things are f---ed up , we all need to work to fix them , together so then the solution benifits us all , division and hate are tactics the nwo uses against us to keep us fighting ourselves ….instead of them.
there is a lot of power in the laws of the constitution , we as a paople need to demand its recognition for all citizens , and we need to work together on the most basic levels to ensure this.
otherwise , we are lost.
Lead by Example
July 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Was Cedric Glover born in Kenya too?
"ren Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
naw, too fat
roaddog Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
he ate a lot of flys.
The Dead Bishop Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
No need to wonder about what a hippo would look like with glasses.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Is this enough for you yet?
Or are you still in denial that there is only one solution now?
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
fight , organize , be well diciplined
July 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Here we have another typical ignorant. anti – American crack head of a “mayor”.
sudburychange Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Yeah, seems like he’s not shy about feasting at the public trough either…literally and figuratively. No worries, they will all be remembered in the end.
a former resident of Shreveport Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
The rear end I hope!!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
An attack on one persons rights is an attack on all.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_G5NvfyVU
July 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
***************ALEX…its amazing how FAR AHEAD of everyone YOU ARE with this stuff as your PHONE guest is CURRENTLY attesting to!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK…Big Boy!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
This is the kind of issue that will in the long run, wipe the sh*t eatin grin off of a fat mayors face!!!
What a huge a**hole….literally!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Where oh where has the NRA gone…
He should take the NRA stickers off his vehicle, they sold gun owners down the river a long time ago!
Every gun owner should see that the officer and Mayor get fired!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Interesting secondary point is that (according to Black’s Law) “confiscate means: “To remove without clear lawful authority” … strike two.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
This cop and all of the others would be under serious scrutiny and loosing their jobs by the time my lawyers got through with them,this is just flat out unreal
July 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Here, let Cedric know how you feel on this issue.
mayor@shreveportla.gov
July 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
You left out the part of Did he get his gun back at the end of the traffic stop?
if so whats the problem? most departments do run checks for stolen firearms when found on traffic stops ect… and it is also anofficer safety issue, but then firearms are returned imediatley after the stop.
stopping someone because of a bumper sticker.. now I have a problem with that…. and i would like to seee the officers dash cam video of said stop.
Just Me Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
It is a violation of the 4th Amendment that protects us against illegal search and seizure. That’s the problem with it. DDD
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
It will really be an officer safety issue, when everyone who has a don’t tread on my sticker, reads this.
Enough Said.
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
If you go into “law enforcement” expecting to be able to s--- on the Constitution for your safety, you’re in the wrong biz. No probable cause in this case, he had no reason to “find” anything.
WE’VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE CONFESSIONS OF THIS COP AND THE MAYOR. NO TRIAL NECESSARY. GUILTY OF TREASON BY ADMISSION. GET A ROPE.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Here, let Cedric know how you feel on this issue: mayor@shreveportla.gov
POS Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Damn! This hurts! No, really, I’m in pain!!
I gotta go take a big ol cedric, and wipe my glover!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I’m getting a bumper sticker that says ” Cops are like dog s---, you step on them and they go squish.”
July 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
If the ACLU, the Shreveport Bar Association and the La. Bar Association cared about the Constitution(s), they would initiate law suits as well as petition(s) to recall Mayor Glover. He is either a traitor, to ignorant to be mayor or all of the above.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
The gun was returned to the man after the traffic stop was complete. The officer secured the gun during the stop and then returned it to the man when it was over. I love Alex but where is the violation?
ac Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
A. It was gun confiscation no matter how “temporary.” This is at least perjury assuming the “cop” took an oath of office in order to get his job.
B. The alleged cop did not prove he had authority to violate the driver’s 2nd Amendment Rights. The driver sheepishly went along.
C. The driver apparently did not obtained proof that the alleged cop was a bona fide police officer. The cop s/h/b required to prove to a judge that he is a bona fide police officer and obtain a warrant for the search before the search was conducted. The fact that judges will not support this is proof of how corrupt and treasonous the present system is.
D. The driver should have asserted his right to speak with his attorney before agreeing to a search.
stewie Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 6:43 am
where did you get this nonsense from? seriously, you need to properly educate yourself. first nobody needs to prove anything to anyone in this given scenario. second, what in the world is obtaining proof that the alleged cop is a bona fide police officer? do you realize how stupid that sounds? I’d say being in uniform with a badge and marked police car would be sufficient evidence for most reasonable and prudent people. what other proof (shy of showing a police department isssue ID) is there? Also, if someone gives consent to a search (which is what happened in this instance) no warrant is required (by statute or case law). As far as the speaking to his lawyer, sure he can talk to his lawyer all he wants. However, if a cop has you stopped on the side of the road, there is the concept of ” a reasonably amount of time”, so no cop is going to wait for 4 hours on the side of the road for someone’s lawyer to show up. Lastly, if it is a situation where there is a potential for injury ( such as this which was an unknown person with a firearm), supreme court rulings dictate that an officer is allowed to do what a “reasonable officer” (reasonable officer, not civillian) would do in a similar circumstance. The officer didn’t violate any law.
ac Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
>Stewie’s misinformation: “Also, if someone gives consent to a search (which is what happened in this instance) no warrant is required (by statute or case law). ”
Are you a misquided disinformationist are just didn’t read the article?
Quote from article above: “Accordingly, Baillio told the officer the truth, which led the police officer to search his car without permission and confiscate his gun.”
Did you twist the article to accommodate your lies?
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
HEY DIPs---— THAT “UNKNOWN PERSON” IS CALLED AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, ONE WITH INALIENABLE RIGHTS, BOTH TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AND TO BE SECURE IN HIS PERSON AND PROPERTY AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
GO HANG, TRAITOR
D.M. Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
The violation is that by the cops own admission he doesn’t treat everyone the same , and a bumper or window sticker is not probable cause . We just keep on loosening our criteria for what we call freedom . Honestly doesn’t eveyone just get fed up with being treated like this, in our own country ? I am a citizen ,WE ARE CITIZENS . Our families have faught and died to give us our freedom and we are losing it at an alarming rate . Cliff says and all other Americans please look really hard at what we allow to occur and compare it to what our grandfathers would have allowed . WE THE PEOPLE must not lose this country , I don’t want that on my head or my conscience .
July 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
All this talk and banter.How many of you will call the shreveport mayors office and affirm the cop violated the rights of this man when he got pulled over.Call the mayor 318-673-5050.dont let your activism go as far as this site and no where else.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
In most states, there is a provisions for an officer to disarm even someone with legal carry credentials, note FOR THE DURATION OF THE STOP this is done for OFFICER SAFETY which is not unreasonable but if the officer fails to return that mans weapon there is a serious problem!!! Not only is it a violation of rights, it is also a breach of trust on the part of the officer and that public official needs to be ousted. This officer and his dept and supperiors need to be sued under US code 17 and 18 one for civil(rights violation) and the othere for CRiminal(taking of property unlawfully under color of law as well as being further rights violations) this is a honey pot both for rights affirmation and MONEY SUE THE CRAP OUT OF THEM!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
he also needs to call gun owners of america and give them this story
July 7th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
just called the mayor….just takes a second guys/gals….let them know you will not be coming back and spending any money in shrevport until this Mayor denounces the actions of his police dept.
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Yes please take the sec to call this is just the ripples in the water so to speak they are testing our reaction to this crap so everyone from all states call if this gets a foothold in one state its just a matter of time before it hit all states!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Well, I just called the number above. I was asked if I wanted to leave my name and phone # so the mayor could get back to me. I didn’t feel comfortable with this, but, despite the secretary stating that she couldn’t take messages, I let her know that he is a Nazi and we’re spreading the word. Give a call guys………………………………………….
Sentry Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
You didn’t feel comfortable with having Mayor Cedric putting your name on his “list?” They already have our names on lists. Everyone needs to call and express their outrage.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Cedric Glover is an enemy of America. Shreveport needs to recall him NOW!
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Sadly Kurt,
We the American People are the enemy. Look at the Miac report, etc… the American Patriot is the biggest threat to the currently corrupt government.
WE ARE THE ENEMY!
If I am a terrorist, YOU are a terrorist.
We are the enemy of the Government… the battle lines have been drawn, the writing is on the wall… so the question now is, not if you will be considered the enemy, but if YOU will fight back, or allow yourselves to be drug off to a fema camp for death and or reeducation.
Fight or Die.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
You will never see this on the msm. I love all the comments here though!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Tell them nothing and admitt to nothing.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
The headline sensationalized what actually took place. The police officer didn’t keep the gun. The officer merely removed the possibility of the owner using it while they were interacting. It’s a standard “common sense” proceedure. I understand that the citizen in this article took offense to the officer’s actions. I am also empathetic regarding the statements about his uncles and their sacrifice. However, people need to understand that not everyone the police come into contact with are stable, rational, or law abiding citizens. You also need to understand that when a cop stops you on the street he does not know you. You may be the greatest person in the world, but that doesn’t mean the cop knows that you are. It’s easy to be critical of the police, but I encourage anyone who is critical to step up to the plate and become one. If you have any amount of intelligence at all, you will quickly realize that it’s not the job you think it is. I am totally 100% in support of second ammendment rights, however there is such a thing as common sense. If you were a cop just doing your job would you let someone that you don’t know from a hole in the ground access to a gun while you were on the side of the road someplace waiting for their registration information to come back? If you are intelligent and honest your answer would be ” no, it isn’t safe to allow someone that you don’t know, which safety dictates you assume has the potential for hostility, access to a weapon”. The goal for most police ( you can also include firemen, paramedics, and military people in this) is to be alive at the end of your tour. If I was in a job that could cost me my life and I had to “offend someone’s sensibilities (i.e. hurt their feelings) to make it home alive then I guess I’d be handing out a lot of tissues for people to dry their eyes with.
babarishka Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Still, he apparently had a legal right to carry the weapon, the “failure to signal” excuse for pulling him over was not pursued and the cop stated he did not treat everyone equally. It would be interesting to see how the mainstream media presents this (if they do at all), but they’re all too busy right now with the Michael Jackson funeral.
stewie Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 6:47 am
cops don’t have to write a citation everytime they pull someone over. have you ever been pulled over and not received a ticket? so what if he said he didn’t treat everyone equally? at least he was being honest. would you treat a little old lady the same as a crack dealer? obviously you wouldn’t.
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
318-673-6900 SHREVEPORT CHIEF OF POLICE
318-673-5050 MAYOR’S STY ( oops, i mean office)
Lord... Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
” no, it isn’t safe to allow someone that you don’t know, which safety dictates you assume has the potential for hostility, access to a weapon”
By this logic, anybody and everybody should disarm each other
stewie Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 6:57 am
you’re comparing apples to rocks here. you as a civillian would have no legitimate reason to be making traffic stops or to enforce traffic law or penal law. whereas, a police officer does. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that if society hires you to stop criminals (like they hire cops to do and not normal everyday civilians) then they will need to widen the parameters that the police can operate in (i.e. the legal concept “police powers”). therefore, your logic doesn’t hold true. your logic is akin to saying ” if the US Army can have land mines so can the local Boy Scout troop”.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I hope this mayor has the officer and the chief investigated for this apolling violation yes violation!!! Everybody get your second amendment bumper stickers and put them on!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I most certainly called and left a message so I suggest that everybody reading this to call this fascist city!!! to the mayor.
Call Mayor Glover’s office to complain: (318) 673-5050.
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I bet they have an office pool, betting they get X amount of calls, per hour.
Calling isn’t going to do anything, voting isn’t going to do anything… the only solution, is violent revolution.
Well you can always tuck your head between your legs, give up your guns and freedoms, and go off with a song in your heart to the Fema Camps.
Fight or Die.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
despite a lot of speculation as to what will be the “trigger” that will launch us into “revolution”, the fact is undeniable at this point in time that the current criminal / dictatorial regime will need to be physically removed from their current positions. I will not say anything in addition to the obvious solution.
I understand most view the “use of the musket” a last resort measure and I concur. However, we are now dealing with an even deadlier offspring of scum than the tyrants of the past. With that being the case based on irrefutable evidence (just look around) the time has come to stop the attempts at “political fantasy” a.k.a believing that those demonic scoundrels will change their ways and do right for “we the people”, sorry not going to happen.
Revolution, whether incrementally as it leads to the “big extravaganza” is inevitable unless the almighty steps in and wipes the slate clean before mankind deals with despotism / tyranny the way it always has throughout history… At the tip of a sword or the end of a barrel when their cries for freedom fall on deaf ears.
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
The Militias told me, that it would take gun confiscations to set it off, the revolution that is.
So, what ya waiting for boys?
This will be used to set a precedent, if they can do it here, without a revolt, then we can do it every where, and in a year or with the current acceleration a few weeks, it will be a common practice to disarm anyone who has a bumper sticker, or a opinion, other than the state administered one.
Time to put on the big boy pants… and lock and load.
That is, IF the militia’s will actually activate, even with the gun grab, now starting.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Cedric Glover is a big fat ass pile of chopped liver. A bloted stink bomb full grown. He brings a wormwood bitterness to the people of Shrevepot and they better stand up to this big fat jackass.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
DON’T TALK TO THE POLICE!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
July 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
This is why you need 20 or more guns each. Hide them all over the house, bury some, put some in the walls. Support the economy, buy guns. Also call black Jaba the Hutt and tell him he’s an asshole.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
The old way to protest is to make enforcement of said laws too difficult to enforce, so those who are directly affected need to rebel. Not those who are just mad at the situations. Ya that shows support, but those you are protesting could care less. But in rebellion you must refuse to do demanded behavior BUT BUT must freely submit to the consequence of that rebellion . If they are not asking you to sin by breaking GOD”S christian law, you must obey. You may not like it, hell it might make you plain uncomfortable, nonetheless you must comply or bring god’s judgement on yourself. Now if you know it is sin just refuse or ignore. If they want to punish then punishment it will be. If it is righteous, i am wrong and will hopefully learn something. If not God will be the judge. The only right i really enjoy while on planet earth is to die and go to hell. Anything above and beyond is simply God’s good grace. So relax folks. God is in control. If they are truely wrong the can only do themselves in eventually. Vengence is God’s and I’d rather let the ALMIGHTY fight my battles. He always wins. So kick back and enjoy the show of the NEW WORLD ORDER tear itself apart. See Romans 13. Also 2nd Corinthians 13 and 2nd Corinthians 4. Outside of this you are wasting everyones time.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Shut up and Be a Good Slave and Watch Michael the Pedifile Jackson, Bitch!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
PEDOPHILE. please, people, learn to spell. it’s not hard. do it for the revolution. we don’t need to be laughing stocks.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Too many morons writing on here. Apparently brain addled enough to argue what caliber bullet just splattered their brains on the ground while on their way to hell! The point is law enforcement is showing ever more signs of becoming the NWO foot soldiers, they haven’t for a long time,cared about your rights, but now show actual contempt towards those who mention their rights. One more sign of the bloody times to come.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
What a poorly written article.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
And again the so called patriot movement will stand down. Something they have become experts at.
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Amen.
Sad to say, even sadder to see it in action. Maybe everyone in the Militia’s were moonwalking and dancing to Michael Jackson’s music during the funeral today.
To the Militia’s, if you are the only, last hope for American… and you will not stand up, does that equate to there being NO HOPE left?
Again, I ask, why are we standing down, when we should be rising up!
July 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
WELL, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT GOD TO DO WITH US? LOOK AT WHAT THIS COUNTRY “YES , EVEN YOU!!” HAS DONE FOR YOU IN GIVING US ALL THESE FREEDOMS AND MATERIAL WEAlth BEYOND COMPARE IN THE WORLDS HISTORY!! AND AS CORRUPT AND GOD-LESS AS THIS COUNTRY IS, ITS GOD’S GRACE AT ITS END AND IS RUNNING OUT VERY QUICKLY. EVERYTHING WE ARE GETTING AS A DIRECT RESULT OF GODS JUDGMENT IN ALLOWING THE EVIL TO TAKE OVER AS TO SHOW YOU THE CONSEQUENCES FOR WANTING THAT LIFE STYLE WITH OUT GOD.
WHAT CAN WE DO? NOTHING, GOD HIMSELF IS THROUGH WITH THE WORLD AND THE CONDITION IT IS IN, AS HE SAID, HE IS GOING TO PUT AN END TO ALL THIS .
#1, WHEN YOU DIE, WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY? FOREVER!!
IF YOU DO NOT REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR SINS, YOU WILL NOT GET FORGIVEN
Luke 13 5I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish
#2 YOU M U S T BE BORN AGAIN John 3 : 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God
#3 RECIEVE JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR , John 1 :12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
PLEASE NO GOD HATING RESPONSES : Psalm 37: 12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13 The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming
mercyflush Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Ancient halucinations.Off topic.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
That’s what happens when you put one of these black
fascists in office. Wake up. These bastards couldn’t get elected
without the votes of whites.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Unbelievable. What else can be said other than that? We’re being stomped, and I’m tired of it. I got nothing else to say, other than we’re f---ed.
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Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
ALSO, 318-673-6900. OFFICE OF CHIEF OF POLICE
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
lemme know what you think
July 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
That ape didn’t have the brains to come up with such an articulate
response. He was reading from a prepared script.
Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!!!!!!!
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Call the number, and be hung up on!
The government does not want the pee on’s opinion.
The only solution, will be violent revolution, so stop standing down, and start the shooting, before the fed restarts their looting!
July 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Wow…this guy thinks his police force is not a threat to public safety? Anybody remember the shreveport cops beating the crap out of some drunk lady last year? It was insane how badly that woman was beaten even more insane was their excuse, she fell.
Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!!!!!!!!
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I remember… and according to the Mayor there… her rights were completely suspended as soon as she was in the presence of the Officer. Therefore, if she has no rights, no crimes were committed. Only humans have rights, persons *legal entities* have no such rights, and are SUBJECTS to the state.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
This really sucks!
We need a flotilla of gun owners to plaster pro-2a bumper stickers, the American Flag, and lots of cameras, and DRIVE through this reprobate city, and SHOOT some bullets, when or if pulled over.
You can denounce me as an “agent provacatuer,” all day long, and my response is simply this, “Was George Washington an Agent Provacatuer? were the troops who fought the War of Indenpendence?”
THIS IS S-T-I-L-L AMERICA.
At some point, when the enemy takes a public servants position and is openly unfaithful to his Oath of Public Office, it is time to use the weapons and armaments at our disposal.
Did we purchase all that in vain?
ONLY IF WE DO NOT FIGHT BACK!
PLEASE!
Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!!!!!!!!!
Daniel Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
So then, let us schedule a trip? lol. I’m all the way in Houston, TX. I would be MORE than happy to take a day off to drive to Shreveport and stand in front of their city hall with my .45 on my hip, in plain view. BIG signs that say “Here, wan’t my gun too? I DARE YOU!!”
July 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
What you all need to realize is that Glover is not a human being. He is something else.
KKK Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
f---ING N I $ $ E R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Madman Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
You took my baby away!
*Ramones song reference
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Want to impress people, get out from behind the pointy sheet, and actually stand, without a mask, and say that.
Madman Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 9:42 am
f---ING N I $ $ E R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweetjustice Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:05 am
NI$$ER is not a black reference to most, it is an attitude of disrespect, dishonor and trash. That being said, I will put my pointed hood back outside next to my Confederate Flag!
Ignorance breeds hate.
Madman Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I must be getting popular, someone is impersonating me.
LOL
Race, Religion, etc, is nothing but a tools used to separate and divide those of us who would stand up and fight against tyranny. If they can keep us fighting against each other with ignorance, then they have already won.
There is no color or race that is American, we are all American!
We should all be fighting the tyrants, not making ignorant, racist comments.
I live in the south, and have nothing against the Confederate Flag, or those who raise it, it is not a racial thing, even thought it’s been MADE to represent that, the Confederate states were fighting for their freedom, just as we will all have to do soon.
I for one have a issue with the term you guys use here, for a African American man… or woman, but because I am PC, but because it is a form of hate speech, used to divide us all.
Men,Women, and Patriots should be judged by their actions, not their skin color, or religion.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
EHEM….. NO…… ITS NOT AMERICA AND HASENT BEEN FOR AT LEAT 30 YRS……
July 7th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
How did they get around the Concealed carry license? When you have concealed carry license they do a background check on you, take your prints, and pretty much determine your not a “scumbag.” What was the justification on taking his weapon from him? How was he determined a threat when he was nothing but cooperative? That’s some crazy crap there!
Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Who cares!
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
It makes one wonder when will the shtf.
Come and take it Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
It just did!
CALL the muther f---ers (318) 673-5050!!!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Call the s--- bag mother f---ers and ask if your firearm will be taken from you too next week when you are traveling through Shreveport.
Seriously, quit f---ing around and flood this piece of s---’s office with phone calls! I just did.
f---ing DO IT! (318) 673-5050
July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The authority’s in portland oregon gave my wife and her lover permission to poison me and my family to death and I was a plasma donor!
I caught them in the act on a audio recorder!
Don’t ever surrender your guns to authority’s unless it’s one bullet at a time!
July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Lets blitz the Shreveport TV forum on this topic at:
http://www.ktbs.com/news/mayor.....hts/page/5
July 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
You HAVE to tell a cop that you have a firearm?
What about the 5th Amendment to not incriminate yourself?
What about this Cop’s violation of the 4th Amendment Protecting Citizens against searches and seizures without a warrant?
What about the 2nd Amendment guaranteeing the People the right to keep and bear arms?
Our Constitution is under attack!
Call Cedric at (318) 673-5050
or e-mail him at mayor@shreveportla.gov
Let him know that we don’t appreciate his assault upon Our U.S. Constitution.
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July 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Tom Gresham`s Gun Talk Radio show: Tom Gresham interviews Robert Baillio on June 14th 2009 show . For those of you who would like to hear the interview this is the link to the podcast it is part A
http://guntalk.libsyn.com/inde.....ost_day=14
July 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I wish to God Americans would wake up. I work in the firearms industry and I have personally seen evidence of numerous govt intervention in our business. I have what I need to get my family far away, do you. I suggest all Americans stand up before it is too late and your options are to live as a slave or dissapear into the jungle.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
REMEMBER THAT EVERY CALL YOU ALL MAKE TIES UP THEIR PHONES AND THEY CAN’T DO BUSSINESS AND MAKE MONEY. THAT HURTS THEM IN THE WALLET WHICH IS ALL THEY LISTEN TO. YOU TIE UP AMAN ON THE PHONE AND WE OUT NUMBER THEM. A COORDINATED EFFORT MEANS THAT THEY WOULD GET NO REST. (NOR MAKE ANY MONEY) YOU ALL NEED TO THINK EFFECTIVE PARACONVENTIONAL WARFARE. EACH PERSON NEED ONLY TAKE A MINUTE BUT BETWEEN MILLIONS OF US 100 PERCENT OF THEIR TIME IS CONSUMED. MANY HANDS MAKE FOR LIGHT WORK. MGK/GDW!
July 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I sent the mayor an E-mail “Really? Is what the subject says true? If so, who gives you the idea that you have the power to suspend the constitution? I know this will probably never be read by the mayor himself, but this was a lot better than calling your phone number at (318) 673-5050 every time I got the chance. Guns aren’t violent. If you violate the 2nd amendment of the Constitution that MILLIONS of Americans died for to protect because your scared of them killing people, then you have to take virtually every object from the slaves in your town, because people will harm each other regardless. Like it or not, mayor, guns are in the Constitution, the right to own one SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! I look forward to the scripted reply. Thank you for taking the time out of violating the constitution to read this. With regards, an enraged citizen.”
July 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
THE MAYOR SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO FIND. I HOPE SOMEONE TEACHS THE BASTARD A LESSON ON THE CONSTITUTION. THEN f--- HIM UP
July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Some deeper understanding of what is going on can be gained by watching this 3 minute video.
If you want to know what the FEMA camps etc are really about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb1hSv2f7gE
Have to go to U Tube to see captions
Jay Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
This two minute video will help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avQ9yPQNb3M
Again, you have to go to U Tube to see captions
Jim Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I thought I might have seen that already but it was different, thanks interesting.
Joe Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I hadn’t seen the first movie “Revelations” but I have seen Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, that is a different kind of view you have there. I hadn’t considered that or noticed those things.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
In most CCW states, you are required to notify a police officer of the presence of a weapon if you hold a legal concealed carry permit. The officer can hold the weapon at his discretion during the duration of the stop, but must return it at the end. It would be beneficial to get all the facts.The story does not elaborate on the complete details like…did he get his weapon back? The officer had probable cause to ask about a weapon based on the bumper stickers. As is so often the case on these sites, concusions are reached without full details of the story.
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Yes I too have some concerns with this story. Did the Robert Baillio get his weapon back after the stop? The article does not say! Did Robert Baillio receive a ticket for the turn signal? Where is the original source for this article? The link provided takes you to a forum! Both the forum and this page does not provide the missing links from the article itself! I’m not passing judgement on whether or not this article is accurate, but that it’s missing crucial information. This is a very poorly written article. What really amazes me is seeing all these commenter’s just running with it without putting any thought into whether they’re even getting the full story here. This article should never have been posted like this in my opinion. This is the kind of crap, especially with so many just blindly accepting it as factual, that fuels the labeling of Americans as extremists. InfoWars you should be ashamed of yourselves for posting such a poorly written article, without providing an sources to verify the claims, missing links, and missing highly crucial information. Shame on you!
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Well, after further investigation on my own, I found the audio missing from this article which clarifies the situation. Baillio’s weapon was in fact returned to him by the officer after the officer finished conducting his business. Baillio didn’t even receive a ticket, though he could have. I don’t see anywhere in this situation where the officer violated the law, nor Baillio’s rights. As for the suspension of his rights the mayor explained that fairly well, repeatedly. Here’s a link to the audio phone conversation between the mayor and baillio.
http://www.conservativedrink.c.....-Video.asp
D.M. Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
The mayor said when you are stopped in the us that your rights are suspended . That is the first I have ever heard of that crap .
Crito Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:49 am
A pro-gun bumper sticker is not probable cause. It was an illegal stop and an illegal search. Yet this criminal with a badge got away with it.
We need to have zero tolerance for fascist pigs like these and make examples out of them for all the other Nazis out there.
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Probable cause had nothing to do with it. He was pulled over for not using his turn signal. People here, most of them at least, do not have any ability to discern information what so ever.
Darren Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Good thinking.
Darren Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
I didn’t know they could do that. Thanks for the clarification.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
…OH AND BY THE WAY, VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET AND BUY MORE AMMO AND ARMS. THAT WILL SEND A VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT TO THE SOVIETS. BETTER ARMS AND MORE AMMO TO JOIN IN THE FIGHT TO COME. NOT IF, IT IS NOW JUST WHEN. MGK/GDW!
July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
was only a matter of time.. what’s next? no term limits for the president?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Yes , we will be at war with uor local law enforcement and court system soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET READY!!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
someone above said something interesting. what’s the point on owning a gun if nobody will use it? this man had a PERMIT TO CARRY. that means he has done nothing wrong.
common sense says: he should have shot that cop for harrassing him
modern day bulls--- says: get a lawyer and sue
July 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Fascinating, Cedric Glover has set a new standard in political asshattery. Why stop there though any civilian with a gun can be dangerous why not disarm them all from possibly shooting themselves, YEAH!!! OBAMA, OMBAMA, OBAMA!
July 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
They all need to be hung til death. If you dont agree with that then you are still under their power, and need to decide who’s side your on.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
This story does NOT suprise me in the least!
When Hurricanne Katrina hit New Orleans, I responded from Texas to help my step-son in St. Tammany Parish. I was stopped at a “Check-Point” on I-10 and asked if I was carrying any weapons? I told the deputies, that YES, I was ARMED. I was TOLD to SURRENDER my weapons and I REFUSED!
A “stand-off” ensued for 8 hours. I “REFUSED” to allow “MY” weapons to be taken and stated that I “WOULD KILL ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER” who tried to take my weapons.
To make a LONG STORY short, I was ALLOWED to proceed, with MY WEAPONS entact.
Do a KEYWORD SEARCH on YouTube about what happened there.
Darren Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Now that’s what I call true grit! Thank you for standing up for our rights.
Vigor Mortis Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Steve in Texas …. I’m sorry but um… that’s bulls---. Complete and unmitigated. First off because we ALL know how a stressed out cop will react when you don’t follow orders. You would have been shot, beaten or at the very least arrested. Secondly, I SCOURED youtube looking for your story. There’s NO TRACE of it. If you can provide a link to the video, I’d be THRILLED to watch it. I LOVE stories where the cop behave badly and get metaphorically bitch-slapped by law abiding citizens. And you’ll have my apologies for calling bulls---. But my suspicion is that you’re one of these internet arm chair heroes and that you’re trying to convince everyone here you tote the big dick. Until you can post a link, how about getting away from the computer, and go back to watching American Idol… Like I said though, I’f you can show me the link, you’ll have my UNDYING allegiance.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I hear a lot of “time to go to war” talk on these sites. Yet, except for the lousy economy, nothing has happened. There is much that needs to be watched, but in reality, nothing has happened. No oppressive gun control legislation, no energy tax, no mandatory vaccinations, no government run healthcare, no hate speech, etc.
I don’t deny that these things are worth fighting against, but as yet, we haven’t been attacked. Let’s cool the rhetoric on armed action until it becomes clear that we have a real enemy.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
doesnt the way the cop treated him BECAUSE OF the bumper stickers violate freedom of speech?
Dedicated Patriot Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
With all due respect, I was a reserve officer for a number of years. When you pull someone over, you generally have no idea who you are dealing with or what they might do. He did not have his freedom of speech denied because the stickers were not removed, but the officer does have the right to ensure his own safety. As a concealed carry permit holder, I don’t have a problem with that. I would have a problem if the stickers were the reason I was stopped and the same events took place. This story leaves out important details to be able to make a judgment on whether an illegal action took place on the part of the officer.
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
The officer was well within the law. I’m amazed at what I’m seeing in all these comments. I’m even more amazed infowars even posted this poor excuse for journalism. It doesn’t even give the entire story.
dp Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 4:36 am
Hey dumbass, it’s called PROFILLING….ITS AGAINST THE LAW…..a bumper sticker isn’t legal probable cause to stop someone, because it’s not against the law moron….you have to see a violation in order to conduct a legal traffic stop…..these bush league burrheads are just a bunch of corrupt pinheads
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
He was pulled over for failure to use a turn signal, dumbass!
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
LOL what about our right to ensure OUR safety??? These fascist cops all over the country are beating, killing, raping, and robbing on an almost daily basis. The cop is armed, not only with a gun but with a potentially deadly taser, as well as a chemical weapon. Maybe the douches would learn to treat people with more respect if they weren’t allowed to be the only ones with guns.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
f–k the fAT PIGS, THERE F–KING YOU, F–K THEM BACK
July 7th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Test Post
July 7th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
“The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Thomas Jefferson
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
This was a crime against a lawful American citizen. He should sue the Mayor and police officer in Federal Court for violating his civil rights.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
What’s that other guy, with the big grin on his face, doing with his hands?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Givem power and it goes a muck !
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
The civilian mayor and his civilian police are obviously terrorist operatives and guilty of crimes against the constitution .
July 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Alex are they holding a gun to your head? Your posts on the web are f–k up.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
why are all you religious freaks talking about god and eating animals when the real topic is your RIGHTS?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
In the first post on this thread Ralph Says “To be nonviolent to human beings and to be a killer or enemy of the poor animals is Satan’s philosophy.” (ad sic!).
It is astounding to me just how many use Christian precepts is such ludicrious arguments when it is obvious they have little if any clue what those Christian precepts are! Chrisian principals nowhere show that the killing of animals is Satanic philosophy. In fact they show precisely the opposite.
In one-fell-swoop Ralph has made Abraham -the “father of the faithful,” Isaac, Jacob and literally hundreds of thousands of their descendants -our Israelite forefathers- folowers of Satanic philosophy.
Please tell me it isn’t so! Please tell me that when Abraham sacrificed the spotless yew in place of his son Isaac -at Yah’s command, no less- that he wasn’t following Satans philosophy!
Amen
July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
This was brought to my attention yesterday by a friend that ran into the guy personally in Shreveport over the weekend I am thankful Alex picked it up and put it on the site this is just the beginning of what will come in the very very near future stay armed and prepared for what the elite will try to do the common man.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Mayor Cedric Glover looks like he may have eaten Cedric the Entertainer.
The Dead Bishop Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Oh, I see. We have Mayor Cedric Glover and Cedric the Entertainer, in the picture above.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
The citizen was stopped solely because of his bumper stickers. The officer asked only questions about guns, not the alleged moving violation.
I suggest that the citizen not carry a gun while displaying the bumper sticker and carry a gun when the bumper sticker is covered. This is not worth dying for.
You think blacks are going to help out the Republic? Think again. Any black with power is going to torture you and laugh about it. It has happened to me many times.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
File a Tort Of Liabilty against the officer for violating his oath to protect the Constitution , That way you can sue him personally for violating your Constitutional rights .
July 7th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Glad to know that belief in the founding principles of this country and the proud display of that is enough to have your rights stripped away from you these days…
July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
genocide against the native americans , enslavement of chinese laborers , imprisonment of japanese in concentration camps , propgandaziation of black / latino populations as second class citizens , implementalization of martial law by using troops against protesters , Americas history ,
i think its long overdue that ‘ We the People ‘ , force this corrupt system to hear our voices as one against this continued violation of our basic rights as people
justice for all ,
http://vids.myspace.com/index......d=60122085
July 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I HAVE A CCW ISSUED IN MY STATE OF MICHIGAN ,HERE IT IS THE LAW TO DISCLOSE AT A TRAFFIC STOP OR ANYTIME YOUR ASKED FOR ID THAT YOU HAVE A CCW AND ARE ARMED , IVE HAD SEVERAL CONFRONTATIONS WITH THE COPS AND I WAS NEVER ASKED TO HAND MY WEAPON ,IN EVERY CONFRONTATION I HAD THEY ASKED IF IT WAS LOADED , MY REPLY EACH TIME IS IT AINT MUCH GOOD TO BE UNLOADED , THE CHUCKLED AND WENT ON THERE WAY ,MAYBE SINCE I HANDED THEM MY CCW CARD THAT’S PAPER CLIPPED TO MY LICENSE WHEN I HANDED IT TO THEM THEY MUST NOT HAVE HAD MUCH TO WORRY , ,MY PISTOL INSTRUCTOR TOLD MY TO BE A CORDIAL AS POSSIBLE WHEN DEALING WITH THE COPS WHILE PACKING
July 7th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Even returning the gun to the mark does not make this action legal. The mark was singled out because of his thought-crime bumper stickers which is a violation of the 1st amendment. The mark was supposed to have equal protection under the law.
Seems like more training for the public. Notice during the 1st bail-out scam for the banksters , the talking heads were constantly telling us we had no voice in the matter of giving away money. Now, we’re getting constant tests of our tolerance for having the bill of rights nullified.
Notice the outright blitz on this thread of race-bashing and God-baiting. Planned? Coordinated? One guy? Seems like that’s been happening alot lately. Shill-wars continue.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
UGH!!! I feel sick.. : (
July 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
This thread further proves that the Alex Jones political cause is exclusively a Christian one.
Jmceloim Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
The title of the article that began this thread is “Shreveport Citizens Disarmed By Police For 2nd Amendment Bumper Stickers” and the article follows suit describing the events that transpired. No mention of “Christian” or any other religion is mentioned let alone implied. Tell me then, how that proves any such thing?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
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July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
What is up? Comment too long?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I guess they didn’t like my honest comment.
Emmie Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Well, I am shocked that they censored my comment. It seems that some people can tell their experiences, but others are not allowed to. I may just have to re-evaluate my relationship to inforwars.com and the Alex Jones Show. This is not what I would have expected and seems very bizarre to me, but more in line with other websites who can’t and won’t allow the truth.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
CHECK this out;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njBa3c9Nj1s
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
did you wacth it?
feel used?
feel played? become smarter than the game , they already have us stereotyped , Lead by Example ,
July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
What is the 2nd Amendement for? Show? These people trample on our rights and what do they get? Great gealth care and lifelong retirement courtesy of the tax payers. The reason this stuff goes on is simply because very few people stand up to these politicians and those who do are labeled racists or radicals or nazis. I’m sure in the hell no racist. I’d stomp on evey last nazi if i could. As for radical, well…..i guess I’m as radical as our founding fathers. In this country today if you believe in freedom and limited government you are labeled a trader. How the hell did it come to this? How the hell does believing in the constitution and certainly the bill of rights make you anti american? Things are going to get worse. If history tells us anything it is that if we don’t stand up now we will be kneeling later.
sydwayz Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
IT is all a game to them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njBa3c9Nj1s
July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
the real question is what are you guys going to do when they pull you over? take a stand or capitulate like a slave?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Lead By Example
July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The Jewish Crime Network is responsible for the mass murder known as 9/11
See the evidence here —> http://zioncrimefactory.wordpr.....l-did-911/
and pass it around to everyone you know. These criminals will fall…
July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Defend Liberty for ALL , No Compromise , No Surrender ,
Lead By Example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njBa3c9Nj1s
July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
f--- that mayor, that cop and the horses they rode in on. I would be getting a lawyer and sue the s--- out of that suck ass berg. Not that they have any money…but I would push it to the MAX.
The sooner more crap like this is made known, the more that our corrupt politicians are shown to be the crooks and traitors that they are…maybe, just maybe enough dumbasses will turn off the Michael Jackson tributes… and READ THE CONSTITUTION and get off their asses.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
There are two things about this case that needs to be noted:
1. This gentleman was being treated differently because of his bumper stickers, the officer in qustion openly stated that at the stop.
2. This guy was pulled over for a minor traffic violation. I have been pulled over and I have never had my ca searched liked this gentlman, I was given my ticket and went on my way. Why in the would it be necessary to ask about guns in a minor traffic stop since this guy did not threaten the officer was very cooperative? The police did not have any probable cause here to search this guy’s vehicle and they surely did not have any cause what soever to tak this gentleman’s weapon.
3. The law there state that you can carry a weapon, the gentlman had a permit as well, the officer clearly had no right to take this man’s property.
4. The cop was wrong to single this guy out because of his pro-gun bumpr stickers, and unfairly stereo-type him as some kind of weirdo terrorist or something. We do have freedom of speech in this country, we have the right not to be singled out and punshed by the government for speaking our minds.
e can surely see Homeland NAzi SS scurity traing at work here with the police, they are making their criminal fedral government masters very happy with them for acing like thugs and harassing the American people!
Impeach the Mayor and fire the scumbag thug police officer!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
We love ya Alex! Power to the resistance and praise the Lord!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Arkansas Resistance is absolutely correct, a half smart lawyer could win this case and cost that Parish a huge sum of money. Mr. Mayor, I would venture to guess your political career is over!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Someone needs to make an example out of Cedric “carrot top” Glover. Loss of his position as mayor would be a good start, but that action isn’t even enough. Court?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
I don’t use bumper stickers as rule of thumb because I want to remain neutral on the road. But. If this s--- happened to me they would not take my guns for no reason. If there really was no reason they would get some 7.62×39 in the face from my Yugo.
Don’t try this s--- with someone intelligent police. You will loose. Period.
-Bolt action hero.
Jmceloim Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:12 am
I understand what you’re saying, but, How do you remain neutral on the road? The fact that you are driving a Yugo with or without bumper stickers would make you a target by many. LOL! Besides, would not such attempts to remain neutral be just what they want from you? -fear. passivism, obedience to wholly unconstitutional law.
Brigand Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Jmceloim…
Are you serious?…yugo here refers to A Yugoslavian AK-47…
Jmceloim Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:53 am
LOL! Ok. I once owned a 7.62 AK and have friends that also own or have owned. They are Soviet made. I have never heard of it referred to as a yugo. We commonly refer to it as a Kaishnakov, the inventor, 762 or simply AK, not by the country(s) in which it was used, but was invented/made -Russia. So if I hear the term “7.62 Afgan,” or “lumbian 7.62″ I’ll know what they are talking about (Lol!)
G spot Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I thought a Yugo was a crappy car made in the 80’s
July 8th, 2009 at 12:11 am
The real focus point here is that an asshole government stooge broke the laws himself by neglecting to follow an amendment right based on an opinion of the situation. f--- those pig headed morons! They are starting a war they cant finish…and when they come knocking on the Devil’s door, he WILL answer. Nobody is above the constitution, and the freedoms it requires all citizens in America to follow. It’s really cute how these government assholes think doing they’re deeds out in the open will psychologically own our actions. Lol thats far from reality. doing this s--- out in the open only opens peoples eyes and pisses us all off. When they go so far that even the skeptics cant ignore the corruption, a billion strong worldwide will slay every last freedom hating peon hiding in the shadows. Rest in Hell every dark hearted prick!
July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 am
You government stooges started this war…leave it to the real Americans to filter out the scum. You are either for the constitution or against it. If your against it you are a criminal and will be punished severly on our terms….on the terms of this countries foundation! Not your authoritarian bulls---
July 8th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Where is the recording? I want to listen to it
jan Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 3:12 am
Tom Gresham`s Gun Talk Radio show: Tom Gresham interviews Robert Baillio on June 14th 2009. The interview is in part A.
http://guntalk.libsyn.com/inde.....ost_day=14
July 8th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Everyone should know the game by now.
When you get pulled over, shut the f--- up.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Doubt the police officers would do it – that mayor is way out of line to say that, and a prick might I add
July 8th, 2009 at 1:18 am
Simple Arm alone and they can beat you! Arm and Organize with back up with cameras and video and they can do nothing! You must have a one call support team that will roll in case of emergency!
http://www.americasrepublicmilitia.net
Remember if you fight back by exposing them they run like roaches!
f--- the mayor and the Nazi pig!
July 8th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Fortune 500 cookie say:
Pay with peanuts : Get monkeys
July 8th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Please help me. I will do web design from a tent! http://www.brandonkastning.net
July 8th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Disgusting!!!!!!!!!
July 8th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Whenever something like this happens, people should descend upon the area like flies, in numerous small, organized groups, and DARE to be pulled over and treated similarly. For every car plastered with liberty and rights minded bumper stickers and a perfectly legal gun inside, there should be one or two more of their friends following not far behind to get video of the police committing their crimes.
Police love to set people up. We need to start setting them up! Let them yell “entrapment!” for a change. Could be a new sport. Nothing better to do? Go cruising around town setting up the cops to get busted breaking the law and violating people’s rights. Could be a new reality show concept.
Ben Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Yes, but it works only if people intervene in unison.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 8th, 2009 at 3:04 am
you guys would be surprised by NJ laws on this stuff…
patriots , dont come to nj, im warning you, it’s not safe
July 8th, 2009 at 3:05 am
They better do no try to disarm me…
… or else they’ll regret it.
July 8th, 2009 at 5:58 am
When citizens cann’t trust police to do the right thing anymore, what is left? Police are at a disadvantage due to being outnumbered and the element of surprise is on our side. As soon as the car comes to a stop, there is nothing stopping a person from sending a bunch of AP bullets towards the cruiser ending the confrontation instantly before anyone could react.
Ben Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I’ll tell you what I told to RJB: it’s sure to succeed, but only when people act as one.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 8th, 2009 at 8:43 am
If you don’t think your government can take your guns, check out this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mCfiJK9Ow
Time to stand up, and yes, I am talking to YOU.
July 8th, 2009 at 8:44 am
MARYLAND…………. residents read this blog…….lets get rid of these bulls--- speed cameras……i received a ticket for going 11 miles over the limit….who dosent go 11 miles over at some point ….i wrote to my rep about how i thought it was bull and who i could join in fighting against it…of course they didnt reply but i found it myself
http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Unlucky mate. There is a group in the UK called the Gatso Squad who go around sabataging all the speed camaras so they don’t work. You could start a Maryland chapter.
July 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
ATF agents are already looking for Patriots…
This is from the Ohio Militia…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVSL3t_unlE
July 8th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I’ve been harassed by La. state thugs, the whole state is a corrupt, dysfunctional, criminal s---hole, north to south. The state thugs have already been investigated 10 yrs. ago by the Justice Dept. for corruption, planting drugs and stealing money from motorists. This doesn’t surprise me. The motorist looks he’s got some brains, got it on audio and video. I see this guy owning a brand new truck, patriotically plastered up, in the near future.
AncientChild Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Amen. I’ve lived in LA all my life. The corruption here is EPIC. My father spent five years in the parish jail, during which time he was used by the Sheriff as an enforcer of sorts. People who weren’t paying their protection or their cut of the dope profits got a visit from my dad. He was also made to build the parish a nice, new shooting range for free, using a bulldozer and a welding set-up. This in the dead of winter with no jacket or coat and duct-tape holding his boots together. My father is now serving double life in Angola for crimes he did not commit, because he pissed off the wrong people in Catahoula and Rapides Parishes.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Think back to the disarming of all citizens after Katrina
July 8th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I just called the Mayor’s office. Got voice mail asking to leave name and # for a call back with a message. I left the following message along with my name and call back number:
“I just read an article where Mayor Glover feels that he can suspend the rights of the citizen and that his police can do that spontaneously. This is frightening. I had voted for him. Come the next election, I will vote for anyone else. If he would like to discuss this, call me.”
Rick Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Well done mate i hope that makes him think about his actions.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
July 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Posting this here because is slipped under the radar….
Alex, I love you man. You have a lot of intuition but sometimes your just off. You really need a science/technical guy to keep you in check. Statements made yesterday about the gigantic sunspot?!!? Uh, you need to do better research. I am one of those geeks that monitors solar activity on my own as a hobby. Solar activity and sunspots have been at an all time low and actually the little tiny one that appeared yesterday was kind of like the breaking of a drought. The longest solar silence in 50 years… I know you study a lot but science doesn’t seem to be your strong point.
Thanks,
Some Dude with a passion for God’s creation…
James McDonough Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/.....omment-565 sudden solar flair July 5th, the new sunspot cycle is starting.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:51 am
and the citizens have the authority to KILL Glover as a traitor.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:10 am
“Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort.”
– President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961
July 8th, 2009 at 10:13 am
The NRS has it wrong, it really is: “When guns are outlawed, only the police will have guns”
July 8th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I thought this blog was about how this guy had his gun stolen from the police. Not about god or animals. STAY ON FOCUSED PEOPLE… put the beer down, turn off the game…..
July 8th, 2009 at 10:51 am
F**K the POLICE!
F**K the Mayor, Governer, or any other authority figure who thinks “He knows best”.
How and why these clowns get into office speaks volumes as to where this country is going. I hope I am wrong, but I see the liberty movement dying off because people vote in this kind of scum, then wonder what happened to their country.
WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE!
July 8th, 2009 at 10:55 am
i would suggest everyone load up their vehicles with any patriotic stickers you can find a.s.a.p. as well as calling these bastards. i ride a motorcycle and i will have my Ron Paul sticker on my helmet or back pack very soon indeed.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Depending when this happened, what the officer did is illegal. An officer can not search a vehicle for an unrelated offense. For example if you get pulled over for speeding and they ask to search your car (Probable cause) you can refuse because they really have no reason to search your car for such a minor offense. Now on the otherhand if you get pulled over as a suspect of a drive by shooting then they can w/or without your permission search your vehicle. this is just the jist there is plenty of literature to go with this new law.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:34 am
I don’t understand why there isn’t a lawsuit already filed against the police officer, the police department and the fat ass mayor. Seems cut and dried to me. Sue them in Federal court for civil rights violation. I live in Wisconsin and that is exactly what is happening here. We have several lawsuits against police, police departments and cities for violation of the U.S. Constitution’s 2nd Amendment as well as the state of Wisconsin Constitution which is very, very clear on the right to keep and bear arms. Wisconsin is an open carry state and some police don’t like it so they harass law abiding citizens by arresting them for disorderly conduct. The charge(s) are dropped in court because there is no disorderly conduct arising from open carry which leads to the civil lawsuits. The way to beat them (for now) is by lawfully challenging them in court. If that fails then eventually I believe the People will rise up and throw off this vile, tyrannical government we now have through force.
HammerDrop Reply:
July 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Do you really think he’d win in a liberal court of law? While we all jabber back and forth about our rights, the “system” is systematically stripping us of our rights and liberties. Very few in office are upholding the Constitution they swore to defend. I like your last paragraph.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:40 am
It has been brought to my attention that someone is posting under the name “MAD DOG”.
While I may not be able to claim a monopoly on the name maddog, I would like to point out that this person posting under the name MAD DOG earlier on this page is not me.
I would also like to point out that I have been using the name Maddog in various places around the internet for quite sometime. I have a site & blog that I use Maddog as a pen name on.
BTW is was sarted in 2001 called http://www.underdogmilitia.net
I also have a podcast called the underdog militia report, on my site and on blogtalk, I also use the name maddog on some of my podcasts.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:53 am
So according to this mayor, if you get pulled over you have no rights? I’m sorry, but this man needs to be educated. Even a person being arrested for a crime has “the right to remain silent”. Idiots are at the helm, People. We need smarter people in our public offices who actually KNOW the law they swear to uphold. *SIGH* But who will do that? Anyone who thinks like this (or actually has a brain in his/her head) wouldn’t stand a chance in politics.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
hes payed off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
FUTURE SCENARIO. POLICE MAN PULLS OVER CITIZEN, CITIZEN SHOOTS FIRST. LESSON LEARNED: THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS WILL NEVER BE DENIED…NEVER!
July 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
This was sent to me from a gun trainer when I shared this page with him:
Nebraska law says:
019.02
A permit holder carrying a concealed handgun who is officially contacted by any peace officer or emergency services personnel must immediately inform the peace officer or emergency service personnel of the concealed handgun unless physically unable to do so.
019.03
A peace officer or emergency service personnel making contact with the permit holder may determine that securing the handgun is necessary for the safety of any person present. If requested, the permit holder must immediately surrender or secure the handgun for safekeeping as ordered by the peace officer or emergency service personnel until a determination has been made that there is no concern for safety and that the permit holder will not be detained for law violations or medical treatment. If the permit holder is transported for treatment by emergency service personnel, the handgun is to be turned over to a peace officer as soon as it is feasible to do so. The peace officer will provide the permit holder with a receipt for the handgun which will include make, model, caliber, and serial number.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
REVOLT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
http://www.flexyourrights.org/ You need to ask the officer why you were stopped, if he does not say it right away. Either he writes you a ticket for that offense, or he lets you go on your way. Anything else, you don’t have to answer, that is what courts are for. If you exit your vehicle, you lock it up. He’s recording with his mic, and video. If he steps over his authority for the traffic stop, you don’t have to surrender your rights. Don’t engage in normal conversation with the officer, keep asking, if he does not tell you right away why he is detaining you. Be the Johnny one note on that fact. Happy motoring people.
July 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Ok I have 2 questions.
In LA do you have to notify the officer that you have a gun?
Did he get the gun back at the end of the stop?
July 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
The mayors office said that the officer gave back the gun after the stop. They also said that during the stop, his rights were stripped until he was free to go. THIS IS INSANITY AND NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. It was funny too, because the guy on the phone at the mayors office repeatedly made the comment that the officer was an NRA member as if it was ok because he is a gun advocate. Just be ready my fellow true and real Americans. We have almost come full circle. Take the fight to them. Wake up as many of your friends and neighbors as you can. Time is of the essence. I have talked with many officers of the law and about half of them know what is truly going on. The other half are blind, corrupt or too flouride ridden to have a clue. Start making signs and posting them at freeway exits, going into the malls or shopping centers, write on money and tell people, call your senators and congress, anything will help the cause. Like they say, “Freedom is only for those that have the guts to defend it.” (memorize it, think it, live it)
July 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Look at those two fat, greedy, disgusting black pigs in that picture. They are traitors and criminals. Know their names, remember there faces, these are the people we are going to put in jail and that is if they are lucky.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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July 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
At the point the “offocer” acted outside of his authority and criminally violated the U.S. Constitution and the drivers Constitutional rights he ceased being an “officer” of the law and became a criminal thug.
What would the situation been if the law abiding citizen had chosen to defend his constitutional rights against this thug by resisting?
July 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I think this must fit somewhere into the Jigsaw puzzle, seems to fit in with the new hate speech laws coming in pretty good
In a way it’s perfect because it will have us under the dual Jack boots of a NWO Police state AND sharia Law.
I guess it confirms what I alsways suspected, someone in congress don’t like whitey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
July 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
There’s no doubt about it. The 2nd amendment is under attack. Tyrants know that fewer people with guns means less resistance. The gun hating sheeple won’t wake up until it’s too late. They will already be on their way to a FEMA camp.
July 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I like the final question to the Mayor. What are they teaching the kids, I suppose they have kids buy crack from crack houses too so they can get busts too. these criminals should be in jail for child abuse. Of course I had to click through to the orig copy and pasted article that was plagerized here.
July 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Now that African Americans control Shreveport are they turning into the Black version of George D’Artois? http://shreveporttimes.com/art.....-attention
July 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
IT SEEMS THAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE HOLDING AN OFFICE GIVES THEM CHIEFTAN RIGHTS. VERY TRIBAL–IS THIS A COLOR THING? WHEN SATAN DUPED EVE INTO EATING FROM THE TREE, HE LED HER TO A VEGETABLE. GOD LET THE HUNTER INSTINCT SURVIVE AND FIREARMS ARE A PART OF THAT. SCRIPTUALLY, HE ALSO ALLOWED FOR SELF PROTECTION. WHAT RIGHT DOES THE MAYOR (CHIEFTAN) HAVE TO DENY THAT RIGHT FOR LEGAL GUN POSSESSION AND CARRY.
DOWN WITH THE CHIEFTAN
July 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
This issue needs to be kept alive and disseminated further. I knew about it through another site and backtracked here. Write your congressional delegation and someone else’s too if necessary. I’ve already done so. Use this link. It will connect you automatically with just your zip code.
NRA-ILA :: Action Center
July 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I have a CCL, and to even be considered for one a THOROUGH background check by STATE police is conducted. This means that people with CCLs are in no way a danger to anyone. They have proven that they have NO criminal record, are familiar with gun laws, and are trained to handle a weapon safely. This “the police are trying to protect you from yourself” rhetoric is anti-gun, Democrat BULLs---. If the State Police say I am safe to carry a concealed weapon, who do the city police think they are to contradict that? Or a politician, for that matter. SUE THEIR ASSES!!
BTW, Mr Baillio did the correct thing when pulled over – according to the laws of LA, it is a CCL holder’s duty to VOLUNTARILY reveal he has a CCL and chooses to EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO CARRY AT THIS TIME. Who does this uppity mayor think he is to deny or suspend this right?
And don’t they have mods on this forum? Wake up and get this religious meat/vegan debate off the boards – f%$#in A.D.D. assholes – shut up and eat your Ritalin!
July 9th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Well some of what happend was legal and some wasn’t. A police officer has the right to search the imediate area for weapons( areas where the person can reach while seated in the car) and secure that weapon untill the seizure (traffic stop) is concluded. He must then return the weapon to the owner unless it is a weapon that is the subject of an investigation or stolen. If he refuses to return the weapon , he has commited the crime of theft, which could be upgraded to armed robbery since he was armed when the crime occured. I know a person who was a baliff for the court, hired by the sheriffs office had a department issued weapon in his glovebox. He was on the wrong side of the law and got caught in a federal sting selling narcotics to u/c agent. He was charged in federal court with beign in possesion of a firearm while possesing narcotics. there has been other officers who commited crimes who had charges increased due to them having weapons. this person has a Federal Civil Rights case and a state case against the officer if he didn’t return the gun. It was never stated in the article if it was returned or not.
July 9th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Steve in Texas …. I’m sorry but um… that’s bulls---. Complete and unmitigated. First off because we ALL know how a stressed out cop will react when you don’t follow orders. You would have been shot, beaten or at the very least arrested. Secondly, I SCOURED youtube looking for your story. There’s NO TRACE of it. If you can provide a link to the video, I’d be THRILLED to watch it. I LOVE stories where the cop behave badly and get metaphorically bitch-slapped by law abiding citizens. And you’ll have my apologies for calling bulls---. But my suspicion is that you’re one of these internet arm chair heroes and that you’re trying to convince everyone here you tote the big dick. Until you can post a link, how about getting away from the computer, and go back to watching American Idol… Like I said though, I’f you can show me the link, you’ll have my UNDYING allegiance.
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July 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Just as I thought… bulls---. How disappointing.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
The mayor seems to believe that being elected to a public office makes him a tribal chieftan with complete and total rule making privileges and that he can run over existing laws. As this is also apparently happening at the White House level, is this color thing?
July 12th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Cedric Glover and his squad of thugs is committing treason as far as I’m concerned. We use to shoot the British when they came for our guns! We must protect the second amendment at any cost.
we need too strip those gun grabber’s of all their right’s, and remove them from American soil!
July 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I guess there will be trouble when I go to see the inlaws next month. Because I’m not taking down my stickers, and and not giving up my 2nd ammendment rights.
The 2nd ammendment is protection against this stuff. I’ll stand on it vs some sorry public official any day.
In Texas; we have a historical flag which says it all… COME AND TAKE IT! (the Gonzales Flag)
Chad Weldon