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Smoke, Mirrors, and Virtual Fences
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
February 22, 2008
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Friday was to announce approval of the fence, built by the Boeing Co. and using technology the Bush administration plans to extend to other areas of the Arizona border, as well as sections of Texas.
These projects could get under way as early as this summer, officials said.
The virtual fence is part of a national plan to secure the southwest border with physical barriers and high-tech detection capabilities intended to stop illegal immigrants on foot and drug smugglers in vehicles. As of February 8, 295 miles of fencing had been constructed.
The virtual fence already is working.
Or is it? Wired adds:
Virtual fences do not have a great track record for permanently stopping the movement of people across porous borders, so it’ll be interesting to see if the Boeing-built technology fares better than previous efforts.
In other words, the virtual fence is little more than a scam designed to enrich Boeing and associated industries while making it appear the government is addressing the issue of illegal immigration.
Of course, the government is addressing the issue — virtually, that is to say not in actual fact, form, or name.
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February 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
A government that touts cracking down on illegal immigration AND at the same time passes legislation that allows Union Pacific railroad and foreign truckers to pass across the border unheeded, all the while planning to build a Superhighway connecting the Latin & South Americas is pulling the wool over the eyes of it’s citizens. Like the article says, this is nothing more than a corporate hand-job between the Fed and a contractor, who is making a killing on the taxpayer’s dime.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Sisco is running across the fence……ah, he’s just an undocumented worker….let-em go. Ah, but his family is with him ? Nah, they’re just his future undocumented workers ! You gotta lighten up, the New World Order is coming, they’ll all be rounded up for the Labor Camps.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
we shall shoot vertual bullets at them, an the old f kind too.shiodn
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
The Govt.is virtually running this country into the grave!!
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
What, exactly, is the government supposed to do about labor migration? More police state tactics? Position 100,000 sniper towers along the southern border to shoot beaners the moment they cross the line?
If you’re pro-freedom, how can you be against the right of people to relocate?
Sorry but the constant xenophobic bitching about Mexicans on AJ’s sites just reeks of hypocrisy. We’re all for the free movement of goods and capital, but not of labor?
This illegal immigration boogeyman is precisely what the elites are using to scare us into shrugging our shoulders at KBR-FEMA concentration camps.
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Maybe one day, after most of the non-urban dwellers (i.e.-self sufficient farmers, ranchers, fishermen, etc.) have been coerced to live in the sustainable communities (cities), a more advanced and effective version of these so-called “virtual fences” will be erected and surround every town. After that, new “laws” could require travelers to provide a trip itinerary for “permission” to cross the virtual fence. Unmanned drones using various remote sensing scanners (true-color video, NIR, thermal IR, multi/hyper-spectral, etc.) could be activated to find any “escapees” (like prison inmates) that did not have any way to cloak their bodyheat signature.
Or maybe they could just require all “citizens” to wear a special necklace that terminates people if they pass through the virtual fence without permission, like in the movie “Deadlock.”
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I really don’t see most Patriots subscribing to police state tactics in solving the illegal immigration crisis. Also, it isn’t xenophobic to advocate national soveriegnity or the protection of our border. The Constitution says that we have every right to protect our protect. We should put up more border patrol agents to protect our borders and have some barriers (not guards inside of camps). Also, there is nothing wrong with free movement of goods and services, but people have every right to inspect these goods and services. You wouldn’t want poisoned food, flouride, etc. spread readily into America. No nation should have constant uninspected foods coming into any country.
Also, it’s really hypocritical to call those xenophobic of those who disagree with illegal immigration, but won’t condemn others who advocate a Reconquering of America or other racist views promoted by some members of Atlzan. It’s pro-freedom to protect our national sovereignity. It’s pro-freedom to condemn the North American Union. It’s also pro-freedom to oppose illegal immigration, because that activities is trespassing into others land. Those here illegally shouldn’t be placed into camps, but face punishments if they want to stay in America for citizenship.
Illegal immigration isn’t a boogeyman. Just look at England if it’s a boogeyman.
I’mnot against the relocation of people, but do it the right way. Don’t disrespect a nation’s laws and do it unlawfully. It’s really a police state tactic to see MS-13 gangs killing innocent people or the media demonize those who even point out legitimate dissent against illegal immigration. Also, tons of patriotic Hispanic Americans are against illegal immigration, so don’t pull out the race card.
By Timothy
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
“As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.”
—Ron Paul, 1987
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
It would appear you Americans may need to revive the training manual of our retired Grenztruppen der DDR? Virtual fences are for sheep dippers with weak stomachs. Nothing like placing a bayonet into a brown skin. heh heh
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
You and I both know that there will be no way for them to check every Mexican truck that comes across the border. Since the law makes it possible for Mexicos trucks to drive on our roads well past the 20 mile limit, whats to stop some nefarious truckers in to smuggling people and drugs. Because you know part of the plan will make it that they don’t get checked for faster crossing across the border due to the NAU framwork and Transportation corridor. They make a statement saying they will be checked in an Arkansas depot where part of it will be soverign Mexico territory. But thats a far distance away and as soon as that truck is over the border anytime or where along the route they will be able to dump people out and/or drugs.
This virtual fence is to divert you from looking at the real story, which will be the legitimate transportation of illegals. They will still try to go on foot, but it will start to dwindle once they figure out that they can hitch a ride on a cargo truck
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Well instead giving Israel 3 billion a year to build there wall of genocide..
why not use that money to build a real wall across the mexican border?
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
We don’t need a wall, we need law enforcement agencies to do their jobs. I’m sure they would if they weren’t being ordered not to.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Damn if you do, damn if you don’t..
….As usual with you lunatics…
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
It’s time to start calling your Senators and Representatives again. They keep trying to shove more legal and illegal immigrants down our throats. Demand that our immigration laws be enforced. We are entering a recession. The dollar is at it’s weakest levels ever. People are struggling to makes ends meet. Our government is corrupt and worthless. They care more about big business and corporations than they do about American citizens. Do you really think the people are going to decide who is our next President? Do you really think we live in a democracy? We have been sold out by those who swore an oath to protect and defend us. It’s time to wake up America before it’s too late!
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Yes it is absolutely time to simply allow the local law enforcement agencies to detain illegals and hand them over to ICE (Immigration Dept). That would clear the streets of most of the illegals most handily, I should think.
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I think somebody has been reading to many sci fi books, of course I know the old saying about that which was science fiction once is real today. I just don’t by this. I would think that it would be used in much smaller applications first.
I can see that if you keep telling people that a fence is there you may get some to believe it.
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
SET UP A MINE FIELD
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I have mixed feelings on illegal immigration. Did we not come to this land and practically wipe out an entire continent of people?
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
listen this all about nothing..there already here. we need to restore order to the republic of the UNITED STATES. NO JOKE. RON PAUL2008… DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER..
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
“In every country and in every age the priest(pastor) has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.” – Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America
Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible. ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935
When Pastors teach their flocks that the Bible commands all to obey the rulers unquestionably…… then Wolves in sheep’s clothing will have a FEAST.
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February 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
After thinking more about this and that Boeing is involved it’s all a scam. How many people are going to know if there is a “virtual” fence on the border, are we going to all go down there and check.
Money that doesn’t exist would be poured into a non plan. Kind of sounds like some-body’s are trying to take off with the bank before this administration is up.
Oh Yeah Take The Money and Run.
This sounds like something the dancing bush would come up with.
Billbud your ancestors came here for so many reasons at different times. I sometimes think if there was another land to settle I would be sorely tempted to go there but here is the end of the road.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
THE BORDERS ARE OPEN BY DESIGN,THE NAU IS REAL AND THIS WILL NOT BE FIXED ,IN FACT IT WILL BE WORSE,THE PHONEY PROPAGANDA SPEWED FROM OUR TALKING HEADS ABOUT THE FENCE IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS,WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA!!!!WE NEED PASSPORTS TO GO TO MEXICO,THEY COME IN RED CARPET LAID OUT,OUT OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX MONEY ,WELFARE,BANK ACCOUNTS ,LOANS FOR HOMES ETC,IDS AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LAWS OF THE LAND!!!!TO TOP IT OFF,MOST ILLEGALS HATE AMERICA AND ARE MISINFORMED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE SOUTHWEST!!!!!!!
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am
Someone needs to discuss the predicament of Americans who are sick of DHS, and who want to leave, and how DHS is trying to interdict the little boats and planes and make everybody have papers.
Everywhere I look, every direction I turn, DHS is sitting there. You know, it’s fine if you’re a retired bluehair in a mansion, with a cushy relationship with the local sheriff/police chief/prosecutor/judge, but this “War on You” is marketed to the baby boomers, and is aimed at all the rest of us, so what do I do?
Where do I go? I don’t want to live in Nazi Germany, or Nazi USA, or Nazi anything. And what I do, and where I go, whether by ship, or by air, isn’t anybody’s business (unless a flight plan needs to be filed) but why is it a homeland security matter if I get on a boat? Why are they trying to stop people out there?
Because of “drugs” and “terrahrists”, two artificial wars, I’m basically not a person anymore, I’m not a human being?
Why is the coast guard aiming guns at people and roughing them up?
I’m not trying to get in, you can have the United States–I’m trying to get out, I don’t want to go back.
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 am
Let the fat Americans have their McNazi, consumptionist, dystopic police state–I don’t want any part in it.
Please help me to find another country.
How can I plan anything? How can I make plans? DHS lets illegal aliens flood across the border like a tsunami, but as soon as I get over the horizon in a boat, DHS/coast guard is going to be all over me like white on rice?
I refuse to be drawn into a confrontation that is beneath my dignity. If they’re going to hire criminals to guard the border, then of course, they’re going to perpetuate crimes against us.
I’ll spend my last dime to be done with this stupid country.
A criminal government should expect sedition, and it’s clear they already do. That’s why they don’t want people to leave. They want us in the US so they can control us. Nobody cares about people getting into the United States, they’re afraid that we’re going to get out.
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:34 am
Tehuti Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
What, exactly, is the government supposed to do about labor migration? More police state tactics? Position 100,000 sniper towers along the southern border to shoot beaners the moment they cross the line?
If you’re pro-freedom, how can you be against the right of people to relocate?
Sorry but the constant xenophobic bitching about Mexicans on AJ’s sites just reeks of hypocrisy. We’re all for the free movement of goods and capital, but not of labor?
This illegal immigration boogeyman is precisely what the elites are using to scare us into shrugging our shoulders at KBR-FEMA concentration camps.
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Because the illegal aliens try to blend in, even though they’re based out of enclaves, in the US, and then the police go after everybody. You can’t just mix in people who are criminals from Latin America who just hopped over a fence, with white suburbanites–that’s not diversity, that’s the ingredients for a police state.
Add selective enforcement, with the crimes of the aliens as a convenient backdrop, and it turns into a nightmare for Americans.
The illegal aliens completely trashed Denver. They’ll sleep 12 to an apartment, and take the toilet, the cupboards, the doorknobs, and the fixtures when they leave, how can you compete with that? How do you live in Denver with neighbors who run their “business” stealing tools and playing loud ethnic music all day?
Besides, the illegal aliens aren’t the same as Mexicans in Mexico. Hopping over that fence may seem like an act of desperation, but it’s really an act of criminality against all Americans.
Nice, well-behaved white people who go to Mexico have to get visas, and permits, and act well. We can’t just jump over a fence and start stealing things, and butchering peoples’ livestock, and roasting it on the spot.
Don’t muddy the waters with that cheap, tired racism jab, either.
All of this is a moot point, including what you’re saying, because homeland security is so grossly abusive and mismanaged that they openly invite disrespect of our laws.
The United States doesn’t have a future anymore, it’s just a carcass being gnawed apart by a million leeches at a million festering holes.
February 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 am
You know, it’s not the US soil that gives value to US citizenship–it’s people like me, who care, and who, in the past, tried to make the country a better, friendlier place for people of all ethnicities–but I’m not going to do this anymore.
I mean, you’ve got fully-blown psychopaths down there in El Paso, with the dress, black uniform, demeanor, and affect of World War II Nazis, and I’m not going to take it anymore.
Listen, bastard, you don’t dress me down and treat me like a “subject” or a “suspect” just because I pass by your booth, understand? Unless you want to run the country by yourself, like a ghost-ship, then you will address me as “Sir”, and don’t ask any stupid questions–which means no questions.
And you always come up with these new programs, to insult me, to make me feel unsafe and worthless–go to hell!
I don’t believe in the War on Drugs, the War on Terror, the War on Sex (to collect DNA), or the War on Us.
I mean, how dare you treat me like an unwanted criminal, asking me disrespectful questions and detaining me, over and over, when I’m the one that brings the value to the country?
While the criminals are whizzing by me, left and right, you try to sit me down, demanding my “compliance” and docility with psychological rituals designed to pulverize my ego and sense of self-worth, and surround me with 6 or 7 guys, with 2 or 3 people standing in another row staring behind them–all of you with pistols and 2 extra magazines of bullets, which means you’ve got me covered right there with over 200 bullets. And that’s not including all the shotguns you have racked in the secondary administration building. But I’m not allowed to even have a gun.
Guess the odds wouldn’t be good enough for you.
I’VE HAD IT. NO MORE.
Besides, you’re the ones who are “self-radicalizing”, you find new and radical ways to harass us everyday.
I hate you, and after what I’ve learned of WWII, and what I’ve seen with my own eyes at the border, I just think humanity is flatulence, humanity is a joke, it’s a bunch of gorillas running around and trying to break each other’s bodies and damage each other’s brains and to proclaim meaningless dominance. Why should I add value to your excrable flatulence? You can whistle your flatulent song without me, I don’t need to sing along, and I don’t even need to hum along in tune.
I’m just wondering when God’s little joke is going to be over.
February 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 am
The way I see it, illegal immigration is just one of the many new “cold war markets” that the elite fascists salivate over for it’s profiteering potential. I mean we have every fear from uncurable tropical diseases, to the many crimes which include drug smuggling, to the prison industry, to an outright assault on our economy with this issue. Even the notions of a NAU threatens our emotions in terms of national sovereignty and true patriotism.
The issue goes along with the many other “divide & conquer issues & tactics” that we all now face, from the sleeper cells of Alquida, to ciphering the human genome, the national ID Card, bio-metrics and chips, GPS location systems, hacking of identities and accounts, to you name it.
These new markets have become the new “cold profiteering war” between the establishment and the people of this earth, where money and profiteering walks and the human heart and soul can only talk, so long as such talk remains legal.
As we all go broke and loose our minds, the mortgage sale of human dignity is now the slave, to be auctioned off as worthless, so long as we can be stalked and terrorized by this process which has been manicured to this end. This is the beginning of cold war profiteering at it’s pinacle, where national boundaries are erased and the war is waged by the neocons upon the masses of this world, regardless of who they actually are, for what these markets can bare.
Now the real money is in the biggest nightmares of insanity, so get ready, as these new technologies demand life with billions of dollars in allocations, so they can save us. These markets are bigger than any gold rush known to man, are worth more than all the earth’s oil and have a maket potential $$$$$$$$ far greater than the nuclear arms cold war, where the enemy everyone and everywhere, as we are told this cancer has metastetised inside each and everyone of us for our hearts, so let the cutting begin. Oh a strip here and a strip there just slice and cut apart our souls, come lets sing, it’s the elite’s dream for what these new markets will bare.
Like we have been told, “we do not torture” & “we do not wire tap” so long as it’s classified and kept from the commission’s watchful eye and as long as they can pass new laws to make it legal, because we are a nation of laws, just in case anyone finds out.
Can yo imagine being young and healthy and being a very close genetic match to someone’s royal blood that needs a kidney or other vital organ such as a heart. Now consider you are just a common joe and that the royal family in need has access to the global genome file, knows where you live and all your behaviors, can track you via your credit card activities and cell phone GPS and then see’s your flying on a plane next month to a tourist resort outside of the country. Beef for sale anyone? But we must all be in the register, right, as the accounts and information gets lost in the nick of time, right? Afterall burglers, rare diamond & art thieves, corporate espionage and all of that, only happens in the James Bond movies, right? and then there are those that brag about such accomplishments as being a “professional thief.” I mean no one uses card tricks at the casino, do they?
Sincerely
February 23rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
A Virtual Fence? Wow. . .it’s so absurd that it’s almost funny. Why go to all the trouble of sending people to foreign lands to fleece when it can be done right here at home without doing anywork at all? HMMM this could be a step in the right direction.
February 23rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
So much intelligent conjecture here, Mark Parker takes the words right out of my mouth. I have been contemplating floating out of this country for a year.
My greatest concern is the docility and sublime tolerance of the Hispanic community, I am sure that the government considers them a much more subservient slave population that is already well suited for the controlling vision of the Bush-Clinton dynasty. What better monastic utopia than having every pitiful last one of us living twelve to a household, cramped together and using the resources of a family of four.
This certainly lends veracity to the much lauded theory that the many KBR concentration camps constructed in secrecy across the nation are meant for one thing only…to get rid of the nagging problem of educated demands for freedom and libety. How can they have their corporate controlled slave nation with a swarm of logical dissent based on that much “government-hated” parchment, the Constitution of the United States of America.
The first thing they must do is get many aliens properly set up in illegal status that is not readily accessed through conventional means. There must be a whole new population prepared to do only the jobs the establishment deems necessary to fulfill their slave nation. This is the main reason why they are given so many entitlements regardless of even possessing a proper identification. And, of course, they are very easily identified by their hair and skin color. What is really difficult is to positively identify a white person that is not of the “select elite”.
I say these things so factually simply because it has been apparent to me for over twenty years that the legislative infrastructure has been pandering to legal and non legal brown skinned aliens in this country in every way possible. It began long ago with the US government’s implementation of segregation and it’s much publicised reformation, another ruse. This plan will near it’s completion when the power structure touts the intolerance of illegal immigration as “racism” and “terrorism”. What is the most viral propagandist lie uniformly spread across the twentieth century?…hate the white man.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:02 am
There is a bigger problem here that needs addressing. There is one tower specificly that overlooks my town. All it can see is my town. Like most of these towers, it can’t even see the border. Rural towns everywhere, be on the look out for radar camera towers to track you.