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So This Is What Victory Looks Like?
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July 9, 2009
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| Even with American combat forces ostensibly withdrawn, Baghdad remains one of the most militarized urban areas in the world. | |
Fireworks lit up the Baghdad sky on the evening of June 30th, signaling the advent of “National Sovereignty Day.” Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki declared the new holiday to commemorate the withdrawal of American combat troops from the Iraqi capital and all other major urban centers, although thousands of “advisers” would remain in the cities, embedded with Iraqi forces. The celebration transpired inside a city that has been radically transformed over the past six years. Even with American combat forces ostensibly withdrawn, Baghdad remains one of the most militarized urban areas in the world. It wasn’t always so. When I was in Baghdad during the 1990s, I was struck by the lack of an overt military presence for a nation purported to be governed by one of the world’s worst militaristic dictatorships.
Of course, in the city areas housing Saddam Hussein, his family and inner circle, and the seat of government, one would see green-clad soldiers of the Special Republican Guard standing watch over the gates controlling access into and out of these islands of power and privilege. But in the rest of the city—the vast majority of the city—there was no military presence. Traffic police stood on little islands in the middle of busy intersections, keeping the bustle of a modern city moving along at a brisk pace. There were soldiers in uniform around, but they carried no weapons, being on leave from their duties in Iraq’s conscript military. Just like their fellow servicemen in other cities around the world, they would enjoy a day or two walking the streets and markets of Baghdad, taking in the sights and sounds, grabbing a glass of tea, a quick meal and the sight of pretty girls neatly attired in Western-style dress.
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July 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Comment?
Newspeak Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
http://www.militarytimes.com/m.....ergunship/
Guns on drones!
Princess Z.E.L.D.A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Just another great toy to eliminate anyone who believes 9/11 was inside job.
Armed*Serenity}-;='--- Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Z-ionist
E-lecric
L-atex
D-ildo
A-association
Is that the toy tour talking about Princess?
Mackiavelli Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Um…LoL
JonVon Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.
urindenial Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Zombie
Eating
Large
Donkey
Ass
urindenial Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
9/11 WASN”T an inside job??? check the facts man and have an open mind, I bet you the us treasury you’ll think otherwise
Devils Advocate Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Uh…there isn’t anything in the US Treasury except maybe some cobwebs and old snack wrappers.
No commercial planes on 9/11 Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. Any plane-hugger that says there was is a terrorist. Not ONE single piece of debris from ANY of the 4 planes from ANY of the 4 locations from 9/11 has EVER been verified in ANY way by ANYONE on the planet. There were no commercial planes on 9/11.
NPT debunked Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am
They were remote controlled military planes….September CLues didn’t convince me, the so called “nose” of the plane coming out the other end wasn’t a nose at all it was the impact of the explosion!! I’ll give you the Shankville hoax because no one verified that one and maybe the pentagon but there were military style exercise from NORAD that simulated crashing planes BEFORE 9/11 even on the very same day. Just because the FBI didn’t release info on the debris doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. The steel columns weren’t independently examined either, they were shipped off overseas to be melted. Is that to say there WERE NO STEEL COLUMNS??? That would be ludicrous….Witnesses came forth to say there were planes…..I believe 9/11 was an inside job a “real” military exercise amongst many “simulated” ones if you will that took place before…….Let me ask you this if you are so bent on evidence. If there were no commercial planes then what hit the towers??? A large hamburger?? If so WHERE IS YOUR PROOF MISTER??
Make Music Not War Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 11:38 am
DO NOT post any further comments to this. Not worth it. Obviously he/she is bad at physics, and also lacks common sense. YOu’ll just be giving this jerk more importance. Thank you.
urindenial Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 1:12 am
answer not a fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his own conceit=proverbs
NPT debunked Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Excuse me sir this discussion has nothing to do with physics and the only person lacking common sense is yourself because to believe September Clues you have to use denial to its utmost degree.. And you are the jerk in question
Anihilus Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oId_zwMM8fg
wolfboy714 Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
lol seriously.
Hey Scott Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
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Ben Dover Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
How do you know?
good question Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:42 am
How do you know there were? The world was shown video of planes. Never in the history of aviation has a video verified a plane or a plane crash. Only wreckage or debris can do that. After 8 years nothing, not one single piece, has ever been verified from any of the planes on 9-11. How do you know there were planes on 9-11? Witnesses? Never in the history of aviation has a witness ever verified a plane. Ask the witnesses of TWA 800 how aviation crash investigators feel about them?
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The reason there is no verifiable evidence is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The war on terror is based on a lie.
Dee Scent in 2 tear in knee Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 6:10 am
planes/jets don’t slip into buildings like butter..
.the collision between a 757 jet and the tower would have been horrific..it would have torn the wings and tail section right off and visibly fallen to the ground
we supposedly saw the front tip of the jet come out the other side of the building..you really believe the hollow aluminum front section of the jet would have made it through the entire building?
what you saw come out the other side of the building was the remainder of the tomahawk missle fired into the tower
look at pictures of where planes have REALLY hit buildings..there are plane parts scattered all over Gods creation
and obviously[even to a 5 year old] no jet ever hit the Pentagon.[just ask CNN's Jamie McIntyre who was there]..a 20 ft wide hole in the wall..
when the 757 has a 125 ft. wingspan and a 44 ft. tall tail section..not to mention the 10 ton titanium engines
watch “SEPTEMBER CLUES” and come to your own conclusion ?????..
Dee Scent in 2 tear in knee Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 6:11 am
or Morgan Reynolds website “no more lies”
Dee Scent in 2 tear in knee Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 6:14 am
“no more games”-Morgan Reynolds… close… it’s been a while..
audit the senators for conflict of interest Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
And them troops are coming back home !! dont pee your pants after watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOM89Qnsyak
July 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
The u.s is patting itself on the back for looking like the murders they really are and that it didn’t accomplish nothing good. Proud liars.
mactruck Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
It’s narrow, bigoted views such as yours that created the environment for it to happen in the first place.
roaddog Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
mac—please explain.
July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Iraq is now part of the botnet, now to upload to Iran.
Censored31 Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Iraq is still resisting to the NWO and this on daily basis. I have soooo many memo’s that i cannot even read them…or translate them into French and put them on my blog because now the focus is on Afghanistan…all my energy goes to the memo’s of Afghanistan.
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be
Attack is the best defense
July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
wow…
July 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Al Qaeda/CIA has accomplished thier goal of bankrupting America, and the Iraqis still hate us just as much as every other “friend” we have in the middle east..
July 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
He’s naked?
"ren Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
yeah, brainy, he is…you see, you gotta look REAL CLOSE, i mean RREEAALL CCLLOOSSEE! and you can almost see his little baby peter
July 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I hope the SOFA expires unratified July 31, 2009, the US leaves and Iraq is developed into a nice place that people will want to come home to.
mactruck Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
YEAH! Like when that humanitarian Saddam was in power. *sigh*…..the good ‘ol days. Yes, we need to get out but don’t get your hopes up on Iraq becoming a ‘nice place’ anytime soon.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
The Iraqis fought Iran and the US to a stand still during two wars and is in the process of pushing the US out in a third. I seriously doubt they’ll fail in their efforts to stabalize Iraq once the US is gone.
July 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
To visitor look this click on the right mhtml:file://C:\Users\Owner\Desktop\RussiaToday.mht!http://www.russiatoday.com/ . 911 and American private army . Learn more wath American guvremment do to all resto people on the world and US .
July 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Wake-up, people! Muslims have murdered OVER 300 MILLION “infidels” over the last 1400 years, it is NOT a peaceful religion and they are ALL radicals! Don’t even try the old worn out “but Christians and Jews have done worse”, you are a brainwashed idiot if you believe ANY of that bullshit propaganda! What we are doing in Iraq is NOTHING compared to the murderous attacks carried out by Muslims since the founding of their 100% false religion! What do Muslims in Europe do besides raping, beating, robbing, and murdering innocent persons?!!! NOTHING of SUBSTANCE – THEY ARE OUR SWORN ENEMIES and THEY MUST BE TOTALLY ELIMINATED FOR THE WORLD TO EVER SEE PEACE!!!
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
What 300 million? You sound like a democracy fascist to me.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Richard – too bad you are historically illiterate and very determined to remain so!
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
To bad you won’t lay your cards on the table so we can talk turkey coward.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Richard – So you’re too lazy and/or ignorant to perform the required research, therefore you try putting the blame for your ignorance of history on me? Nice try, dimwit.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I guess Mr. intel doesn’t have the “facts” to back up his claims or doesn’t want to talk about them. Why waste peoples time with your nonsense?
DEATH TO THE SATANIC NWO Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
“al”:
SOUNDS LIKE YOUR A LOW PAID TROLL, OR JUST A BRAINWASHED SLAVE
HOW ARE MUSLIMS OUR ENEMY NOW? AND OH, I’M A MUSLIM CONVERT – PRAISE GOD. 300 MILLION? REALLY? AND YOU GOT THAT NUMBER FROM WHERE? NOT EVEN THE SATANIC ELITE CLAIM THAT NUMBER OF “MUSLIM CAUSUALTIES”
YOURE A FOOL, TRYING TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE REAL ENEMIES – THE SATANIC LOSERS OF THE ELITE AND THEIR SLAVES , NOT THE GOD FEARING MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
He got the number from an article by Danial Pipes that he posted a link to on this thread from something that happened 1,200 years ago in India, it looks highly inflated.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
You are so stupid, it’s unbelievable.
If anyone has fallen for “bullshit propaganda,” it is you.
Have you ever actually met a muslim?
They’re no worse than anyone else who has fallen for the religion con – ALL religions are “false” – and I’d REALLY like to know the source of your “300 million” claim.
(That works out to over 200,000 people a year, and seems like an absolutely ridiculous assertion to make, especially without offering any evidence.)
You really are so obviously full of shit that it’s almost not even worth responding to you, but when you make comments about european muslims doing nothing but “raping, beating, robbing, and murdering,” it’s impossible to let slide.
If you’re so dumb that you can look at the history of the past 1400 years and single out muslims for special criticism while ignoring and/or rationalizing the bloody conquests of western civilization, then you really are a hopeless case.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“I’m So Bored With The U-S-A” – Have I ever met a Muslim? YES, I was employed at a U.S. intel agency for 28 years, I’ve met PLENTY of Muslims all over the world and I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT, MISTER KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and ASS/U/ME TOO MUCH. You don’t know shit from Shinola! Western civilization has simply answered the call when threatened or attacked! Try studying some TRUE history BEFORE reaching any other silly ass false conclusions!
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
A US intel agency?
Why didn’t you say so to begin with?
You boys have never dropped the ball, and certainly don’t engage in ANY sort of illegal and/or immoral activities, so you must be right!
Thing is, I don’t doubt for one second that you’re telling the truth about your resume, as it’s exactly this kind of ass-backwards thinking that has gotten us into our current mess in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, et al.
Heck-of-a-job, Allie!
No wonder our government is so F’d up if they employ morons like you.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I’m So Bored With The U-S-A – I see. I have earned the following degrees : B.A. in Human Biology, M.A. in Nuclear Physics, J.D., and M.D. – all with TOP honors, therefore I am a “moron”? care to post YOUR education and employment background? I think not! The Agency that I was employed by NEVER “dropped the ball”, that’s another wholly unsubstantiated “urban legend”.
Leena Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Yeah, well we have B.A.s M.A.s PHDs, J.D.s and M.D.s in COMMON SENSE…all with TOP HONOURS. Getting an education doesn’t make you smart!! it just makes you indoctrinated!! You got degrees in the indoctrination capital of the world and you claim to know anything?? That’s an oxymoron if I’ve ever heard one!!
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:26 am
You’re right, they didn’t drop the ball: They lied like hell, just like their job description called for.
As for resumes, why bother?
I can’t confirm yours any more than you can verify mine, and the fact that you think titles and/or degrees are the same thing as an education only serves to further prove your stupidity.
RYE BREW Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I graduated high school from an Indian Reservation called Cheyenne River Eagle Butte, South Dakota..go BRAVES….say sumpthin!!!!
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Oooh a history lesson!!! Al, your a hypocrite for insinuating the whole”Sins of Father” mentality in this day and age!!! Please elaborate further. “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
RYE BREW Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
If you want a great history compilation try reading Howard Zinn!
mactruck Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Whenever anybody talks about ‘eliminating’ anyone I generally tune it out. If ever Muslim in the world was out to ‘kill the infidels’, you would already be dead.
Islam will dominate through reproduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
July 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
they fixed it up real pretty like the Zions fixed up Palestine
Job well done US style.You are and will pay dearly for this SHIT for ever.
Do not pass blame on NWO, Zionist ,or governments ;this is on YOU USA citizens.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
The minority of americans who want peace, prosperity and good government like me didn’t do this. It’s the attack voter democracy fascists and their US legislator capitol building butcher incumbency of evil who did it. I hope these war addicts enjoy living under bridges out of shopping carts, because that’s where they’r e taking us with their wickedness and stupidity.
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Does the government & media lie about anything?
Does the government & media lie about everything?
DNC & RNC have BOTH sold out the country in order to enrich themselves.
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9/11
Guy Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
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AND I GUARENTEE YOU MY BROS IN THE USMC WILL NOT OBEY ORDERS THERE IS MUITANY READY TO COME.. CLITON FU WHEN HE TUCKED AND RUN FROM MOGADESHEW(black hawk down).WE SHOULD HAVE BOMBED THE F OUT OF THEM!! JUST LIKE LEMAY(COMMANDER THE H BOMB WWII OVER JAPAN) SAID UNDER THE WING OF HIS B52 IN VIETNAM bomb em back to the stone age and leave nothing satnding no higher than 3 ‘ off the ground and communisum will go away well look were we are know X gen OBAMA VOTIN IDIOTS>
Vade Lynch Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
We are at the point where EVERYONE who knows what’s really going on need concern themselves with nothing more than giving out copies of DVD’s, copies of the Jane Bürgermeister lawsuit article by Kurt Nimmo, wearing infowar t-shirts in order to get conversations started, and most of all, educating yourselves so that you may speak to the subjects intelligently and calmly. Stand up straight without looking down your nose. Present yourself so that you and your information will be received well.
There is no conspiracy, but there is an agenda. We were warned about “infiltration” long ago. Now we must practice infiltration to subvert the system that the enemy has clandestinely replaced our beloved republic with.
Please. Stop wasting time with idle hands and loose lips. Educate yourself and educate others. Help people discover the truth on their own.
Good Luck.
http://www.myspace.com/vademusic
July 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Al you are an idiot and have no clue what you are talking about. Islam, TRUE Islam, teaches PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING, the “radicals” do not follow their faith very well.
Personally, I think all religion, organized religion, is bullshit and breeds hate and intolerance, and your eloquent post proves my point.
Believe whatever you want, but when you start decreeing those who do not believe are lesser beings, you are in the wrong, and should pull a Curt Cobain and take one for the team.
So AL, here’s your chance to “convert” us, prove it. Back up ANY of the crap you just spewed, if you can back any of it up with facts (no moron the bible DOESN’T COUNT) I’ll buy you a beer.
I’m holding my breath in anticipation of your grammatically correct, and coherent, response.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
phishybongwaters – The facts show otherwise. Over 3,000 autos were burned by Muslims during riots in France alone and the crime rate in Britain has jumped hundreds of percentage points since Muslims began their massive migration to the area. Observed and confirmed actions speak much louder than your silly ass “theory” of what Islam stands for. Islam has been all about VIOLENCE, not “peace” everywhere I have ever been posted for duty. TELL US Of YOUR FIRST HAND EXPERIENCES, YOU INEXPERIENCED, HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE MUSLIM APOLOGIST ASSHOLE! NO, I WILL NOT DO YOUR RESEARCH, DO IT YOURSELF.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
In other words, “I’m just pulling this shit out of my ass, and can’t cite any sources, but let me throw out a few more bullshit numbers for you.”
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
READ THIS, YOU DELUSIONAL, HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE FOOLS – http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?u.....p?idx=8574
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Your source is a Korean newspaper with the lead story on its front page misspelled?
(It’s about a new “durg” that will slow aging!)
The third story on the front page is about Courtney Cox’s marriage, and there are pictures of topless chicks on it too!
You KILL me, Al!
I KNEW you had to be joking – no one could really be that stupid – but this is too much!
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I’m So Bored With The U-S-A – You cannot refute the story, so you resort to ad hominen attacks – how absolutely intellectual you are! LOL!
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
There was no story to refute.
Yes, some muslims do horrible things based on ignorance furthered by extremist religious views.
No one here would deny that or defend those actions.
But to base your view of an entire religion, culture, region, etc. on the behavior of morons is fallacious thinking at best, and outright stupidity in the empty cavern of a skull you call a brain.
jm Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
al, you’re forgetting that the Sunni-Shia religious tension is funded mostly by the illuminati. They encourage the extremists on all sides of the table. So your news article says 5 million Muslims have killed their fellow Muslims. Although this might be true, it’s leaving out the part about who funded them. Plus, it only mentions 5 million, what ever happened to 300 million people Muslims killed?
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
jm – You failed to read the ENTIRE article and I sincerely doubt you are intellectually capable of comprehending the degree of threat Islam poses to world peace at this very moment. You’ve never been in the military and I seriously doubt you have ever traveled to a Muslim nation. I fluently speak Farsi (Persian form), Romanian, Indonesian (Malay form), Urdu, English, and Papiamentu…. and you are struggling with common English.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
phishybongwaters, jm, I’m So Bored With The U-S-A- If the bodies were piled by your front doors (if you even have them) for you to count, you insane bastards would STILL deny the numbers. In other words, arguing with you idiots is a waste of time. As my late father said “Son, you can never win an argument with an idiot because he can never understand that he is wrong”.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
We’re still waiting for the 300 million killed “facts”, is disinformation and evasion something you learned in intel school?
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
TRY LEARNING SOME ACTUAL FACTS, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY UNEDUCATED – http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/12250
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Now you’re citing Daniel Pipes!
If you actually know he is, and you’re still quoting him as an expert about anything, you’re even dumber than I thought!
This guy is a rabid neocon who supports Israel in all their actions – if anything, he wishes they’d go ever farther – and widely viewed as one of the most militant, anti-Islam jackasses on the planet.
(You should see his performance in the new HBO documentary about free speech – He inadvertently admits that he wrongfully persecuted a muslim woman based on lies he had helped promote, but ends by saying something like, “Hey, journalists are in the business both to report news and CREATE it, whadya want me to do about it?”)
He’s also considered by the mainstream press to be a “conspiracy theory” expert who labels anyone concerned about the Trilateral Commission, CFR, Federal Reserve, etc. as cranks.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I’m So Bored With The U-S-A – So anyone who disagrees with you stupid bastards is a “racist” AND “a rabid neocon”…how convenient that you can never post facts, you simply make ad hominem attacks when confronted with the reality of the situation. Your ignorance is showing – AGAIN!
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Try learning grade school arithmatic moron and then come back with your 300 million killed that are all due to Islam “facts”, everything you’ve provided doesn’t prove squat, except that you’re ignorant enough to think people dying in wars the US started and supported is muslims fault. Get your head out of the sand and wise up.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Richard – It’s patently obvious you cannot refute my numbers, so STFU.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I can’t? Try this wind bag. The problem with your numbers is they don’t prove squat, except that you’re to ignorant to have learned the difference between arithmatic and history or religion and politics in school or in life. Your substituting the perversion of religion in the name of politics, which is standard blame shifting to demonise the faith rather than the people who perverted it. You can spew your dribble all you want, it doesn’t make islam any more at fault for genocide than christianity for the inquisition or what was done to american indians or countless other examples of people of one faith killing others of the same or a different faith in the name of politics, greed, lust for power and all that stuff religion teaches against. It’s truth twisters like you who pervert religion for purposes it was never intended. Grow up and get a life.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It’s obvious you’ve been watching to much propaganda tv, believe all the bs about the phony war on terror and are a brainwashed islamaphobe. Try watching some 911 videos, maybe you’ll learn something and take your government issued blinders off blinders so you can learn arithmatic and history rather than disinformation and evasion.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Then you won’t be so ignorant and uneducated.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Richard – Live in denial of the historical facts and continue to fail to post anything of substance. The postings you have left are prima facie evidence of a total lack of education. I know more about world politics than you could EVER hope to, I’ve worked for the United States in over one hundred countries. I seriously doubt you’ve even been outside your own comfortable borders or the home of your criminal coddling parents. I was at the trial and SUPERVISED the execution and burial of COMMUNIST DICTATOR NICOLAE CEAUSESCU and his wife on 25DEC89 – in other words I HAVE PERSONALLY DEPOSED DICTATORS. You “spew dribble” and post nothing but unsubstantiated bullshit, then foolishly accuse me of doing so. You don’t believe in the God of Israel, nor any other deity, therefore you have no right to say anything concerning religion. YOU’RE NOTHING BUT A KID, WHO IS HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE, A LIAR, and A SIMPLE MINDED AD HOMINEM ATTACKER – THE PROVEN FACT THAT ISLAM IS A DANGER TO THE ENTIRE WORLD WILL MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO YOU UNTIL THE MOMENT THE MUSLIM BASTARDS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EXECUTING YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY. FUCK OFF, YOU ANTI-CHRISTIAN, ANTI-ISRAEL, ANTI-JEW, ANTI-BIBLE, ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM BASTARD! Here is a video clip of the execution – if you can stand seeing a pair of “no religion” communists being shot dead – and YES, I am in the video! http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V3860
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
You don’t have to be a mr. know it all to know why we went into Iraq and Afghanistan, any mindless twit can tell you it’s for drugs and oil. Through in some forced democratization to keep the attack voters and capitol building butchers happy and you’ve got the mess we’re in now. Or are you going to enlighten us with more “proof” to justify your islamaphobia? Post a link, I’m sure everybody would like to see it. Or can’t you do that because of “national security”, like we’re supposed to trust the government that lies to us constantly.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Now he’s bragging about being involved in an execution!
Real classy, Al!
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
You’re a sick puppy, ever think about getting some help? What’s next, torture videos? Am I supposed to be impressed with your “qualifications”, knowlege and experience? You’re pathetic, try reading some of your own drivil and see how deranged it is.
If you want to know why the world is so messed up it’s because of people like you who glory in your phobias real or concocted to justify your irrationality. When’s the last time you saw a shrink or rabbi or priest or iman or preacher? Maybe they could help you with your problems, they’re obviously serious. There’s nothing wrong with my education, you’re the apologist for people twisting religion for evil and then you try to divert attention by labeling me a liar and anti this and anti that with no proof.
If this is your lifes work then maybe a career change would do you some good. You’re obviously going off the deep end.
xavier Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
richard, just ignore this idiot, he has some kind of mentaly disability, maybe frontal lobe inhabition, idk. if he really thinks islam is a threat to the world then he needs help. maybe lying to himself reduces the pain of knowing that chrsitianity is a failed religion and that millions are leaving chrsitianity for Islam. The average christian is in a state of desperation – al is an example of what christians are going through because of their breakdown of faith in the garbage they call christianity. has he forgotten the crusades? and how the muslims wrecked the shit out of the chrsitian terrorist bastards and made them run like little children? oh well, christianity if failing and it will be extinct in a few years.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I don’t see a lot of difference in the basic morality of the abrahamic faiths, they all teach a lot of the same stuff. The guys obviously hurting, I’m just trying to help him clear his thoughts to get a clearer perspective of his situation. Maybe he’s done the things he’s said and it’s screwed him up or maybe he’s bsing I don’t know. But something’s bugging him and he’s looking for help in his own way.
Lap Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Al, you are one of the chosen people.
You are an asshole!
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
phishybongwaters – BTW, YOU employ very poor grammar, make NUMEROUS errors in punctuation, and use improper syntax, then you have the nerve to criticize my writing? LOL! You are either severely drug addled and/or you are totally uneducated and incapable of accepting reality. You should go commiserate over a few beers with treasonous old Aunt Jemima McKinney.
phishybongwaters Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Ahh and the true racist within finally comes out.
That explains so much my feeble minded friend, drink some more fluoride
phishybongwaters Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
feel free to point any of those cases out. I did the research, and studies have shown that 99% of people named al posting on prisonplanet and infowars are illiterate morons.
Oh, there is a 1% deviation.
extex Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
haha classic!
phishybongwaters Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
And by your standards, if the radical fringe represents the whole, then all Christians are bloodthirsty bigots and sexists hell bent on burning everyone at the stake until they repent their heathen ways.
Bravo, bravo, you’ve done it. I am now fully converted to your religion of brain sucking stupidity.
Yeah, I’m sure someone that worked intelligence for over a decade spends his days here posting racist moronic CRAP.
Wait, are you a secret muslim too? Allah Akbar or something
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
phishybongwaters – Illiterates like you should be proud of all the fluoride you’ve ingested, it gives you a valid excuse for being so mentally slow and completely ignorant of history.
jm Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
al, try staying on the issue rather than sling mindless insults at people.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
jm – You have NEVER been “ON TOPIC”, yet you criticize me? LOL!
Last Door Down The Hall Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
All those arguing with Al, here is a URL with some data on the so called religion of peace. This is just recent stuff. Islam is a murderous cult. It is a detriment to mankind. Most of the people here that defend it have never read the Koran, Qur’an whatever you want to call their Muslim Mein Kampf.
http://www.thereligionofpeace......ml#Attacks
There is no where on this planet that is Islamic and observes Sharia law that is a place where you would want to live and raise a family. You think your rights are trampled in the US? Its not a fraction of what happens in Muslims countries.
Forget all this “jack” Muslim crap you see in the US, the flowers and puppy dogs version. We are talking real Islam. “Submit or Die” Islam. The real McCoy. Not even this Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam bullshit. Real Muslims don’t even like him.
“I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
Adolf Hitler-Mein Kampf
“Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)
Al, I wouldn’t even respond to half of these comments. Unless they have been there, seen this heathen atrocity called Islam, they know nothing about true Islam. A good soldier, well trained sees all the threats, from all sides. Islam is just as big a threat today as the NWO is. One kills you while pretending to lead you and the other just kills you period.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
phishybongwaters = Ad hominem “racist”, “sexist”, “bloodthirsty” “bigots”, etc., etc…The NWO brainwashing words freely flow from your totally delusional “wienie washer”. FTF, such talk would cause your weak ass to spend a fortune on restorative dental work.
The Glorified Janitor Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Al, You have done well for your master, The Zionist Empire has been the greatest military power the world has ever known, but you have fallen into a trap. You see the Chinese have financed your Empire until now, but have also armed your enemy.
How do you know Hezzbulla does not have the bomb? Ask yourself who would be the worlds greatest power if Teran,Tel Aviv and New York and Washington, only 4 targets were suddenly gone.
"ren Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
phishybongwater, its simple, CHANGETHEWATER, lol
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 6:59 am
LOL now that is funny.
July 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
It make me wonder as I looked at that picture with the child, what free, honest, independent website like this would be portaying us in the future…is this the last line of defense?
Infowars / GCN ??
OR maybe the picture would be a picture of the our Militia arresting those low i.q. goons,
starting with Bill (slick) Clinton.
July 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
See this and learn the FACTS about the founding of the USA – http://www.intouch.org/site/c......_on_TV.htm
July 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
by now everybody knows I have an imposter working the threads. Everybody thats been here a while will know the different styles. The anti-roaddog is a coward that can’t use its own handle.
phishybongwaters Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
we all do, the regular users can easily distinguish between them.
which brings me to my next point.
These comment sections should be linked to PrisonPlanet forum accounts. That way, there’s no ability for people to post under your name. And, morons like al up there can be removed as needed.
Webmasters, look into it if you can, I’m sure it will involve some work on your end, but it will make moderating a little easier.
And again, I’d like to volunteer to moderate comment sections. I’m pretty loud and abrasive myself, but the racist dribble being posted here is not only pointless and offensive, but a danger to us all as it gives them ammunition in their war to shut us down.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
phishybongwaters – So when did being a so called “racist” become illegal, mister know absolutely nothing?! BTW, The use of the meaningless term “racist” simply proves a person is of very inferior intellectual capacity.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Ok Mr. troll, why don’t you find a bridge to hide under and some other way to amuse yourself?
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Richard – Sadly, you don’t even realize how brainwashed AND ignorant you are.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
You’re the one who likes to make accusations and then refuses or is unable to back them up with facts, I’d say that fits the definition of ignorant.
jm Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
yeah I agree Richard, Al should find a bridge.
Look Al, just what the hell are you trying to prove? Unless you are intentionally paid to do this which would make a whole lot more sense than what you are appearing to do. You come in here calling people ignorant when you are the obvious mindless chap.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Richard, jm – Show me some facts or STFU. ALL you two have done is to post silly ad hominem attacks ad naseam.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
phishybongwaters, Richard, and jm = Childish ad nauseam, ad hominem attackers, nothing more, nothing less.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Sounds like Al’s been watching to much propaganda tv, he actually believes that nonsense about the phony war on terror, he must be a brainwashed islamaphob.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Richard – One day you’ll FINALLY understand why we went after Afghanistan, Iraq, and other Muslim nations, then you’ll say “Oh, NOW that makes sense!”.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Richard – How old are you, how many languages do you speak, what is your level of education, how many countries have you visited, in which country do you reside, and do you understand the meaning of “ad hominem attack”?
July 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Yup thats what Victory does look like. Ever seen a picture of Berlin a day after the war. We won the war, now staying for no reason I can’t agree with and will not. But yes whether this war was fake or not we won it.
Hanging in the Streets of Pennsylvania Ave. Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Dan – too bad you weren’t supposed to be there in the 1st place you fuckup. you brainwashed pyschos are so dillusional that your opinions shouldn’t even count.
also, why are you building permanent military bases in iraq? i don’t support paying for those bases. i swear the US military is like a sticky bugar on the end of your finger…hard to get rid of
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
If forced democratization and hostile occupation constitutes victory, lets see how long either lasts. Would the germans have referendum ratified a SOFA? It doesn’t look like the Iraqis will.
July 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
phishybongwaters says “The sky is falling – racist, racist, racist, racist, RACISTS caused it!”.
July 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Victory is measured by the value or amount of things that were looted in that particular country and not in how many people were killed, displaced, injured, etc.
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Victory is the satisfaction to say “I did what I wanted and nobody stopped me” while pocketing those values and amounts of things, and paving the way to keep on looting the country in an apparent legal way.
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In this victory, nobody is keeping the score; it is meaningless. The victorious will write history to reflect the endurance and challenges they have to overcome and will invent marketing names such as “patriots”, “brave souls”, “heroes”, “freedom fighters”, etc.
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Peace.
Hanging in the Streets of Pennsylvania Ave Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
do you want to know who really won the iraq war?
THE LARGE BANKING INSTITUTIONS. the same people who have profited from countless wars since 1913
July 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
This should be proof to all of you sheeple out there! That the government is against us all pure and simple! Osama is a made up boogyman and Al-Qaeda was the dream team for the C.I.A to smash the Russians in Afghanistan! To hell with all these politicians! Death to all politicians who back this evil!! What Americans need to do is burn Washington the Pentagon the C.I.A and all other government spook agencies to the ground and send these beast back to hell where they belong with their master!!
AMERICA WAKE UP!!!!! YOUR EYES ARE STILL WIDE SHUT!!!!!!!!!!
WANT CHANGE? TERMINATE THE RULING CLASS AND THEIR BLOOD LINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.russiatoday.com/Pol.....?fullstory
July 9th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Victory in Iraq was not the goal.
Endless civil war was the goal.
To capture the global oil supply was the goal.
To secure the Northern boundry for Zionist Satanic Israel was the goal.
To secure the territory to be held by The anti Christ and the governance of the NWO was the goal…..
Nothing else,, unless I misses somthing. 666
July 9th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
i cant believe people like our friend al get paid to say absoulute BULLSHIT when there are no more jobs in the world .. what if our new health care plan proposes to dominate federal control over healthcare to citizens.. what if the cyber bill proposes to shut down social internet or give complete authority to the ‘elite’ to monitor each and every track on the internet user regardless of his nature .. i just cannot believe that in the land of greatest source of ‘good’ in this world .. hahaha
the congress is forced to vote on a 1700+ bill in less than an hour … WOW time to wake up ..
all u have to let go are your chains .. if u want to know the definition of freedom .. look up thomas jefferson’s ideology and my name 2 .. and for the love of your country pass everything you know to people so that they are aware of explosive situation at hand ..
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
illuminati game cards 1995 – Why don’t you point out the “BULLSHIT” I’ve posted. I’m retired, thus I am NOT being paid to post, these writings are my personal campaign. I’m moving to my home in Romania, where the citizens don’t just talk, they cherish freedom enough to take PHYSICAL action against overbearing dictators. Americans have become mentally weak, chemically castrated cowards, broke ass liars, and internet cowboys. I am a direct descendant of the Adams of Massachusetts, our family produced several of the Founding Fathers and my blood STILL runs hot for freedom, Constitutional law, and true justice! BTW, there are PLENTY of jobs for those of us who are creative and still able to think for ourselves.
I now hold career fairs around the country and I am making much more money than I did working for “Uncle”.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
illuminati game cards 1995 – Look up “S.I.O.N.I.C.S. POWDER SPRINGS” and “MITCHELL WERBELL III”? You’ll discover where I was trained and by whom I was trained.
al Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Hey Al, how many babies have died in democratic abortuaries? And that’s not some zionist neocon spin doctoring from a 1,000 years ago. What’s your take on the fetal holocaust, who’s the threat to humanity? I don’t see a whole lot of abortuaries in the biblical lands.
The Glorified Janitor Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Al, stop poseing as a real American. You are a Zionist Cult member who has drained our country of it’s blood and treasure. Americas broke and we don’t want to be part of your empire anymore. We do not share your hatred of the Muslim and wish them peace. If you guys ever try that White Phoosphourus stuff on us Americans were going to send you a bailout plan.
Most Zionist don’t want Americas help and most Americans don’t want to help you so go away in peace.
July 9th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
freedom is slavery
July 9th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
July 9, 2009
G8 Meeting
The G8 leaders are meeting in an earthquake zone in Italy this week and discussing global warming and the creation of a global currency. Both scams on the public.
But for sure, they will talk about the pope’s call for a “New World Authority” that will govern everyone on Earth equally and totally. Of course, our dear Nazi pope is referring to the dictatorial global government of a NWO.
No matter how you look at it, nothing good for anyone will be coming out of this sham group. No one from the public can attend, no cameras allowed inside and no messages from the people of Earth are allowed to be given to the ones supposedly leading them. Does this seem democratic or fair? Isn’t this why Iraq was invaded? Isn’t this why we argue with Iran? So why are we allowing it for the rest of the world??
http://expansions.com/News.cfm
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Iraq was invaded for oil, to make forced “democratization” read the proliferation of democratic fascism like we have here in the US easier.
Richard Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Democratic fascism is the nwo.
July 10th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Anyone who believes a word of anything on this craphole of a website is as retarded as Alex Jones himself. Debating about the NWO and about 9/11 conspiracies is a waste of time and proves that people will believe anything for the sake of sounding “enlightened and open minded”.
Conspiracies in history fail. The government isn’t some dude sitting in an office twittling his thumbs and laughing and there’s no way you can keep this “truth” from so many people. You are all tools.
toby Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:35 am
There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Al Qaeda is coming to get all you paranoid schizoids. It’s a vast Muslim conspiracy. Better go put on your tin foil beanie.
ROFLMAO.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Victory is mine!
PrivateSi Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 6:28 am
…yeah, lots of left over land-mines…
July 10th, 2009 at 6:35 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXTzCUrUKY
July 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
URGENT… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXTzCUrUKY
July 10th, 2009 at 6:46 am
I honestly think that most of you on here are all misinformed and take radical steps to prove another wrong. Passing judgement on someone because you feel they are “less” informed doesn’t make you right. It makes you look like a jackass.
Regardless of you being Republican or Democratic, they both work for the same government, they both (nowadays) are applied to the same face. If you haven’t had a chance to see Jone’s film called The Obama Deception, then I guess you wouldn’t realize that Obama (D) is the same thing as McCain (R). Just a face America can look at and trust.
Grow up people, quit getting into petty arguments about who is right or who is wrong, start SHARING your information and quit debating it.