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Stewart Howe of We Are Change L.A. Takes Neocon Frum to Court
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
June 17, 2008
It looks like Stewart Howe will get his day in court. Earlier this year, Howe was assaulted by the neocon and war criminal David Frum, who is infamous for coining the term “axis of evil,” used to demonize Iraq prior to bombing the country and killing over a million Iraqis. Howe, a member of We Are Change L.A., attempted to ask Frum a few questions during the L.A. Times Festival of Books on April 26, 2008, and in response the neocon and former Bush administration economic speechwriter assaulted Howe.
“Frum told Howe, ‘The one thing I regret from our last conversation is that I didn’t say to you what my friend Christopher Hitchens said… which is, you should fuck off.’ [expletive is reportedly a direct quote]” reports Aaron Dykes of the Jones Report. “According to Howe, David Frum then got up from behind the book signing table and swung at Stewart and his camera while he was phrasing a question about the unraveling 9/11 cover-up and potential criminal charges.” Frum insisted Howe turn off his camera and leave the event as he “smacked the camera.” Replied Howe, “I will not go away. I will not turn off the camera. We are in public. Are you worried, perhaps, about the criminal liability of being a partner to mass murder after the fact? You know that is a real concern because the truth is coming out.” Howe insists Frum attempted to break his camera. “I don’t want to be on your camera,” he said.
In a recent email sent to Mr. Dykes, Howe said his attorney, a former Marine, informed him that the L.A. City Attorneys Office is “heavily laden” with “liberal left leaning” staff and are interested in proceeding with assault charges against Frum. “He has also informed me that it may become a case transcending assault/battery and enter in no small way into the area of Frum, along with event security/UCLA conspiring to deprive a citizen journalist of First Amendment Rights.” Howe indicated, however, that his attorney has “limited experience in such matters.”
Obviously, the fact that the City Attorneys Office has taken up the case is a victory for the 9/11 truth movement, especially in the wake of 9/11 truth activist Mark Dice’s experience with neocon talk show host Michael Reagan, who has threatened to have Dice killed for sending truth DVDs and other materials to troops stationed in Iraq. Hopefully, Frum’s potential conviction on assault charges will send a message to the neocons: this is still America, there still is a First Amendment, no matter how enervated, and assaulting journalists will not stand, at least not for the moment.
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June 17th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Oh, please give me a break! This is no victory! The City Attorney is not a court of law, and should have nothing to do with such a matter. Only the District Attorneys Office should be involved in this, and this use of the City Attorney is clearly to cover it up and make it go away! Even if the latter’s office is a bunch of “liberals”, they’re not going to go up against a Bush Neocon! Has California, and/or the L.A. area, rewritten the law so City Attorneys can act as courts and judges?! This whole thing stinks to high-heaven!! If I received such a letter, I’d know there’s going to be no true justice in the matter. Howe will likely be talked into accepting a paltry out of court settlement, and into signing a settlement agreement gagging him from legally discussing the matter any further without potential action(s) being taken against him for violating the settlement agreement if he does. This is b.s.!!
Also, it sounds to me like Howe’s “former Marine” attorney is selling him out by getting him to agree to go to this “kangaroo meeting” which his lawyer should be telling him not to agree to if he wasn’t selling him out. Most lawyers will take peoples’ money and give them completely shoddy representation. Don’t fall for this crap, Howe! In addition, the City Attorney has a conflict of interest in getting so deeply involved in such a matter that should be nothing but for the courts to handle! So, unless California law has been rewritten a lot to allow such a thing, and even then, there’s something rotten in Denmark! Hell, people can’t even trust most actual courts of “law”, so how are they going to trust such a mockery of “justice”?! There’s not going to be any true justice had in this matter that truly holds Frum accountable in any real way, other than by his putting out a few dollars!!
June 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am
i wasn’t gonna bother reading that long post but this guy sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. i hope howe reads it. cant you take it to the district attorney after it’s been through city attorney, eh, wolf?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Even if this thing goes nowhere fast, it’s still good exposure for the truth movement. It helps to legitimize the fact that there really are hard pressing issues that need to be addressed. I believe Stewart Howe has probably come a hell of a lot closer to achieving this than you have Wolf, so even though you make a legitimate point, your negative attitude towards the effort made here is in no way helpful to anyone. If you don’t like it, get your ass out there and do something your damn self about it. As for David Frum, “goodbye” to you and yours, actually. Maybe not on June 26 2008, but soon enough. You can’t stop an idea whose time has come. Bye bye baby.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am
yeah obviously no one cares about David Frums book… no one is in line… obviously most people don’t read anything Neo-Cons write or they would be more informed wouldn’t they?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Yah, Stan, I thought of that. Sure it can go to the DA’s office after the meeting with the City Attorney; but, believe me, unless Howe stands his ground and refuses to settle out of court, and even then, it’s not likely to ever get to the DA’s office. In fact, I thought perhaps the meeting with the City Attorney is for the very purpose of determining if there’s a strong enough case to take it to the DA, but that’s for the DA’s office to determine, not a City Attorney. Or, it’s already been determined that it’s supposedly not a strong enough case for the DA’s office, so the City Attorney’s Office is being used to make the matter go away.
“Negative attitude”, ‘Little Brother’? What, you don’t like a little reality shined on the matter, and prefer to live in a fantasy world of false hope? Sure, Howe is likely to get some sweaty cash out of Frum’s hands, but what good is that going to do the Truth Movement, unless of course Howe plows all of it back into the movement? And, as to my getting out there and doing something myself, I’ve been visited by DHS, have you? Click on my name and read my last two articles showing how I’m putting myself out there telling it so much like it is, and about how the government is targeting me for it. Is the government targeting you?
June 17th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
P.S.—I hope I’m wrong and something serious is done, and true justice is carried out and had, but I don’t hold my breath. It’s not likely at all. I fought for ten years for justice in so-called “courts of law” and got nowhere. If you think a completely corrupt City Attorney’s Office, which such an office has to be, is going to secure any true justice against an extremely evil, powerful NeoCON, you’re living in a dream world. Yes, keep hoping, but season it with reality and preparing yourself for the worst; because, if you expect an evil system to bring about true justice, you’re going to be waiting for it, and not experiencing it, until hell freezes over.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
May the full force of Justice crash down upon the dark, empty souls of tyranny…
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June 17th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Idea:
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~ It’s time to take back America! ~”
You never know… wilder things have happened!
If we are gonna win this thing, WE MUST STAY POSITIVE!!!
Positivity breeds progress,
Negativity stalls you stagnant.
Let us keep our focus on the beautiful Freedom of our destiny
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June 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
It’s gonna be difficult for Frum to weasel out of this one. According to the law-
A.) Frum should have his gun rights revoked- LIKE THEY DO TO THE REST OF US.
B.) Frum should be required to attend anger management classes for two years. LIKE THE REST OF US.
C.) Frum should be required to pay all fines and penalties, and court costs. LIKE THE REST OF US.
D.) Frum should be place on probation, after serving his jail time. LIKE THE REST OF US.
E.) Frum should have this conviction placed on his criminal record. LIKE THE REST OF US.
But we all know that the Freemason neo-courts don’t treat NWO neo cons-
LIKE THE REST OF US.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I love this kind of story. I want to see it cloud up and rain all over Frum and his ilk.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
This is awesome! Even if Frum walks (and he probably will) at least we got him into court. At least it’s going to cost him some money to hire a lawyer. Hopefully Howe’s lawyer is working pro bono or totally for free. I wouldn’t expect a victory here, and even if Frum is found guilty, he’ll just have to pay a fine and be on probation for a year. One little victory!
June 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
f--- HOWE,I’LL BE IN THE COURT TOO.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
God damn this is why no one likes you obnoxious idiots or takes you seriously. I’m the biggest ‘truther’ in the world and I can’t stand you guys do some more research before you go spouting off at the mouth stupid s---.
If you really knew the truth you would’t have to get excited and stoop to their level. Bring them direct quotes from huge people that they will recognize and they will all stop and listen.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I think you’ll need a little bit more than a slight shove of the camera before you can call that assault/battery. If i was a Judge i’d throw it out of court.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
My hats off to WeAreChange LA. Man-o-man you have class in the way you handled that. There’s so much to learn from your group on how to conduct yourself with security and the law. Frum showed his true colors. The security guy should me applauded too. He composed himself like a real professional.
Thanks for the hard work.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I’m glad Stewart is taking that Trotskyite piece of filth to court.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dmc.....thy23.html
June 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
When i first read about this ‘incident’, i was expecting a bit of violence from Frum but this was very dissapointing. Is it not possible to get someone with a slightly heftier voice to do the confronting? Someone with a bit of authority that can lend a bit of credibility to the whole exercise. This whole movement needs more focus and organisation. I still can’t see anything significant actually happening yet. People need to know that they are getting something tangible out of knowing the truth. We need to make it sexy and a money maker and then everyone will flock to it like flies on s---. You need to make the truth taste, smell and look good.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Found in this .pdf file from LEAP/E2020 Summer 2008 Alert are the nine precise themes found on page 6:
-the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy, autumn 2008
-the end of the US federal gov’t, Feb. 2009
-civil war developing from the above two events
-rounding up of dissidents
-detention of citizens in REX 84 prison camps
-direct and retalatory measures against members of Congress resulting of the collapse of federal authorities
-the setting of security areas for members of Congress and their families
-the union of Canada, US and Mexico
-the launch of the Amero
full report here in this .pdf file (click or copy):
http://www.stevequayle.com/New.....7.GEAB.pdf
June 17th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
“14 GERONIMO Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I think you’ll need a little bit more than a slight shove of the camera before you can call that assault/battery. If i was a Judge i’d throw it out of court.”
^ Obviously you ^have never shoved a police officer. They will file assault charges for pointing a finger to their chest/VEST. Like nothing. You can do nothing, and be charged with assault. I like the 1st Amendment angle. That is a Constitutional issue…..however printing email saying the LA establishment is ‘liberal’ and anti-neocon will not help with an impartial jury and could lead to a change of venue in which case Conan the Republican’s neighbors will be stacked on the jury….
June 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
David Frum is clearly a neocon propagandist, and I think he’s pathetic, but what I just saw on that clip is not an assault. It is an incredibly frivolous case which wastes time and money. They will laugh at that this frivolous nonsense in the court….I like the tenacity of Howe but nothing good will come out of this…
June 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
The constitution will prevail, the First amendment will be upheld in the court of law, and aggressors such as Frum will be held accountable for their vile actions.
Long live Liberty, failure to the New World Order.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Why do people like Frum even bother? anyway, the guy that freaks me is cris hitchens, i think cris spends al lot of time thinking of what people would like to read. i saw his kissinger book and thought he turned 180 when it came to 9/11. some money involved somewhere, no doubt.
June 17th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Frum is supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer? Sheesh. Not very bright.
Instead of simply answering the question and then letting security handle it if the questioner stayed and harassed him, he chose to leap up and attack the camera.
Hasn’t he learned from Rudy that walking and pointing is much more heroic looking on video than slapping a camera and throwing water?
Silly PNACer. Me thinks he doth protest too much.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Mark Dice should have never stooped this low, licking Reagons black boots. He should have known better.
Reagon is pulling the same stunt Glen Beck pulled when Ron Pauls supporters went to bat against Beck’s threats. Just like Glen Beck when he had Ron Paul for purpose of apologizing, Reagon used the Psy Op of giving the public the idea that the Truth Patriots (a.ka. “Homegrown Terrorists”) harrassed him by getting/calling his cell phone, coming over to his house ad nauseam. PsyOp Message to all Reagon’s listeners: “Truthers/Freedom Lovers are dangerous/possible homegrown terrorists.”
Everything: setup and arrests of any group who dissents, targeting as dangerous, recent burning of Texas Govt. Mansion, the bought and paid for Talk Show Host Shills spewing the Clarion call for our murder, the media blackout of these criminal acts toward us are for one Purpose: That purpose is:
HR 1955 Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO ON YOU TUBE. It says it all. This Bill has been sitting in Committee for a year now. The Senate is drooling over it, just waiting to pass it. Unless we ALL call Congress every single day to object, this will be the end of ALL who’ve been telling the truth and any dissent. Is our freedom worth a few daily phone call?
Believe me, Comrade Mike Reagon didn’t have Dice on to apologize. He had him to build his own case, and to lure Dice into saying something….anything…that could be twisted into painting truthers as dangerous and treasonous “homegrown” terrorists.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I’d love to see Frum share a prison dorm with Conrad Black.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Edgar Cayce said that, in these times, the people would rise up and take back their power. Way
back then, we didn’t have a clue what he was talking about.
Also, he said he saw himself reincarnating in a seashore town in Nebraska. All sorts of things are
possible.
June 17th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Wow Frum is a real jerk. I hope he gets what he deserves.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
J – you mean Harvard Uneducated. What American schools and colleges do is indoctrinate. If we were truly educated we wouldn’t be in this mess and every last NEO nut and Bilderberg gang member would either be in prison or their grave. I know most of us desire peaceful means to attain our goal of conquering the NWO, but I gotta tell ya citizens, at some point this thing ain’t gonna go down peacefully. We are dealing with psychopathic murders, entrenched in the belief they should run and own everything on this planet and are willing to kill to accomplish that dream. Singing we shall overcome to these sociopaths is equivalent to lighting a match in a hurricane and expecting it to burn. We can desire peace, but we better prepare for war. They will not go down easy. They will not go down because we want them to. They will not just go down because we hold the truth to them. Remember, these are demons with an agenda to wipe out 80% of the world population; demons willing to institute false flags and care not who dies in the process, demons without a shred of respect for life and not an iota of morality. Sad to say, but in the end taking them out may only be the real solution to our misery and theirs as well. There is an old Arabic saying, ‘Pray to Allah, but watch your camel. I pray for peace, but keep your weapon handy.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
i posted this to cnn’s ireport:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-36621
i think this would be a good vehicle to get news out on cnn.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Great job Stewart, hold these criminals accountable! Keep up the good fight.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Seriously… Great job… It is a shame how dumbed down the public really is. Keep the fight going.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Stewart should have had that rentacop get the cops as soon as that nazi hit him. You don’t get struck and then hang around waiting for it again. That could actually be used against him in court.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I was hoping this would go to court. Definitely good news. I have to say I have some doubts about whether he will win the case or not, but just getting him there is a victory.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
i wanna scrap david frumm, f---in murderers standing behind their corrupt government. I think God is pissed.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Islam is a Satanic Cult that was made up in the 7th century. Mohammed was a child molester that married a 6 year old girl when he was 54 and knocked her up by the age of 10. A fact is a fact is a fact. Islam is the ultimate cult of scum. Who cares ? Bush is an idiot because he did not nuke Damascus and Tehran. We need to turn these scabs in to glass parking lots because they are total moronic evil scum. The president of Iran looks like a monkey, talks like a monkey and even walks like a monkey, exactly like a monkey. He is sub human slime along with all the rest of the Satanic Cult members that call themselves muslim dogs. Obama is total slime too, the Anti Christ. You people are dumber than boxes of sand. There is no oil shortage anywhere. Get over it.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
God is the greatest therefore we have to hate the deed not the person. But by the will of God he will grant us victory over our enemies.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Great job! Clearly that is simple assault with witnesses and video tape evidence. But, perhaps the best part of the video is that there is NOONE in line for his book to be signed, while the other authors do have buyers. HaHa!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Come on Joshua tell us the truth. You are really Dick Cheney aren’t you?
June 17th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Good on ya! we are change is really stepping up to the plate!
J
June 17th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
JOSHUA……………WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS ARTICLE ? WE WANT FREEDOM AND TRUTH NOT HATE AND EVIL. IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE MUSSLIM RELIGION THEN DON’T JOIN IT. THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT……….FREEDOM !!!!!!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
If you want a solution to corporate government corruption.
Please support the “Honest Citizen”* Amendment.
*”If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, secret society or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
copy paste this to your representative.
ctrl-a ctrl-c ctrl-v
June 17th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
F Frum
June 18th, 2008 at 1:04 am
David Frum is an embarrassment to his birthplace of Canada. As a Canadian journalist, I’d like to ask him where he learned to treat the press with such disdain. His mother was a famous Canadian journalist who was well-known for her hard-hitting interviews. Lucky for her she’s been dead for 16 years, because she’d probably hate what her son has become. Maybe we should all ask his journalist sister what she thinks:
http://www.lindafrum.com/
It’s amazing how a pile of s–t, neo-con c—sucker such as David Frum could come out of Barbara Frum’s womb. But hopefully he’ll be joining his dead mother soon enough, once all of the war criminals are executed.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Frum is going down
June 18th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Always so incouraging to see the system uphold due process of law and protect peoples rights.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:50 am
Thank God. I can’t wait for the liberal panel to shred up this neo-con.
Everyone let’s think about what is going on here. All these mindless authority figures are defending these aristocrat, elite, mass murderers, because they happen to be aristocratic and elite.
“I’m sorry, sir, not now, not now…I want to save you trouble..just go away…this is unexpected…this is uncomfortable to have to deal with this uncomfortable incident…i have no idea why this person is upset just….why don’t you go away forever and I’ll politely let this nice criminal get away with conspiracy to commit murder”
It’s the same thing with W. Bush…he puts on his happy face, and then it compels the psychee of the masses to believe the his is capable or executing his puppet functions for the elite cartels.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:26 am
we should do a fundraiser who gets to throw the swicth when he gets his death penalty for treason make a lot of money for charity
June 18th, 2008 at 7:42 am
I am a South African and I am very impressed and thankful to Alex Jones.History becomes meaningfull because of men like him.I’ll always pray for him.If God be for you who can be against you and you can do nothing against the truth but only for the truth spoken by our creator so he is all the way with Alex.We are fighting the same fight here in South Africa and if the whole world’s truther’s can unite we’ll be a formidable force all round the globe.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Bravo to Howe for taking this arrogant bastard to court. Thank God Frum is no longer in Canada where his mother, Barbara was the host of CBC’s “As It Happens” and his daddy was a well heeled dentist in the Toronto area. Canadians are generally fair minded … but David Frum is something else. Sue his ass off for millions and beat this son of a bitch down off his gilded perch. On the other hand, you have to give Frum credit for being able to write speeches for that idiot, “W”, with words that it could pronounce … which is no mean feat. Of course, when MONEY is involved, guys like FRUM, who have sold their souls to the devil, will always manage to persevere. When are those Americans, who still have guns, going to take back their country from the organized criminals who stole it from them?
June 18th, 2008 at 10:11 am
It is about time someone nailed that piece of s--- David Frum and I hope you sue the ass off of him for millions. Please keep the bastard in the USA or send him to Israel, where they can find a use for him.
June 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Thank God.
June 18th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I guess we should all sign a list and join the truth movement so they know where to find us when s--- goes down. I suggest to you all, find land with water and start to farm, thats the way to ensure your god given rights. Abandon society, men are evil and what they’ve been doing will require complete destruction before anything is solved. We need to be able to provide for ourselves and our families, supermarkets and public water systems are part of thier ability to control the population, we cannot afford to rely on them. Learn how to make bread or else you’ll be waiting in line.
June 18th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Well, you Truthers actually have something to get worked up about. Gosh, it must be exciting for you.
Someone please inform the hair-brained Kurt Nimmo that an “office hearing” in the DA’s office is not a court of law.
“9/11 Truth is a loose brains job.”