Stop the Election: Accurate Vote Count Impossible


Devvy Kidd
NewsWithViews
November 3, 2008

Before I get into the massive vote fraud and what ALL of us must do the day after this gigantic hoax tomorrow, I would like to give an update on the lawsuits regarding Obama’s citizenship status. First, Berg v Obama, et al. Phil’s web site has had more than 86 MILLION hits since he filed. The day after Phil Berg filed an ‘Application to Justice Souter for an Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008′ and Writ of Certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court, a news wire story flashed around the world, Oct. 31, 2008:

Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate confirmed. "The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu….Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

The very next day, Nov. 1, 2008, Andy Martin, J. D. and Professor of Law (Adj.) had his own announcement regarding his lawsuit:

(HONOLULU) (November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawaii over Barack Obama’s bogus "original" birth certificate. "Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawaii backed his assertion that there was an original, "typewritten, 1961" birth certificate, called a "Certificate of Live Birth" or "COLB" in Hawaii, that no one has previously seen. Hawaii officials retrieved and examined the document after Martin filed a lawsuit seeking access to the historic 1961 original." His November 2, 2008 follow up is here.

The issue of what kind of birth certificate constitutes proof of citizenship is the most asked question in my mail box. Philip J. Berg’s Assistant, Lisa, has done the research and provides us with this clarification:

"Once you are born, the hospital transmits the information to the Health Department, a birth certificate is created; If you are born abroad, you must take the original foreign birth certificate to Department of Health in the State which your birth is being registered, the original foreign birth certificate is placed and stored and the State Department of Health and a Certification of Live Birth is created. If you are born at home, then you must register that birth with the medical records (even births at home, a doctor must check the woman and child, then a birth certificate is issued by the doctor, the mother must register the doctors birth certificate of the child with the Department of Health).

"I spoke with the Director of Records in Hawaii, he explained to both (name withheld for privacy) and myself (we were on a three way) the above procedures. So yes, everyone in the United States and other countries (unless you were born in a field and never sought medical care) has a vault version of a birth certificate.

"On another note, in 1961 the Hawaii birth certificates are black and type written, this is true. In 2001, the Hawaii Department of Health changed formats and now offer a short version and a long version. The short version, if the birth occurred in a Hospital in Hawaii is called a "Certificate of Live Birth" not a Certification of Live Birth (COLB that Obama is using, fake or not) so there are differences in the wording of the document which folks are not aware of, unless they asked. A Certification of Live birth is nothing more than stating, not proving you were born, it does not prove your citizenship status or anything else.

"Now, the Certification of Live Birth is issued for foreign births abroad, which are registered in the Hawaii Department of Health. But there is more: On the bottom left of a Certificate of live birth is the words "recorded" which is the date the hospital transmitted the information for the production of the birth certificate or the Certificate of Live Birth.

"However, on the bottom left of a Certification of Live Birth, again for births abroad, it states on the bottom left corner "accepted", as Obama’s COLB, fake or not, does. The wording "accepted" means that is the date the Department of Health in Hawaii accepted the registration and the documentation. Dunham could not have registered Obama’s birth in Hawaii without the original "vault" version of the foreign birth certificate, nor could she have gotten Obama out of Kenya."

Another effort is underway to get to the truth:

November 2, 2008: New Federal Lawsuit Against Obama

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"Why does it matter that we see Obama’s real birth certificate? If we are to elect an unqualified candidate that assumes office, nothing that office holder does has any validity. Imagine a president that has no authority running your military, nominating judges and other officials, and pretending to sign laws: all of those acts are automatically invalid. That is the only reason this matters. As McCain has been ruled by a judge to be constitutionally eligible for office *, we must also know for a fact that all candidates are so eligible by verifiable documentation for the offices they seek and those they hold….

"The request is this: a group of 24 electors for two different presidential tickets is preparing to file suit to gain access to Sen. Obama’s birth certificate, however, because of their political parties, their suit would be automatically viewed as partisan and would likely be thrown out. Please, if you know or any one you know, is interested in joining a law suit to force Sen. Obama to reveal the truth, it would be tremendously helpful to having a fair and impartial outcome this Tuesday.

"We need persons who are members of the electoral college, preferably democrat, to volunteer their names on this suit by Monday. There is need for all political parties to be represented in this suit. The outcome of this election is imminently upon us. If you don’t rise to this occasion, who will?"

Please note the asterisk above. Hundreds of emailers wanted to know why I haven’t written about McCain’s eligibility status? I have in the past and here is the court ruling that stopped all challenges:

Federal Court Holds Hearing on Lawsuit to Remove McCain from California Ballot

"Robinson v Bowen is different, because it was filed by the state chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson (although that party has an internal factional dispute and Robinson’s office is not completely, permanently secure). Robinson is also a candidate for presidential elector, pledged to Alan Keyes. The leading precedent on who has standing to challenge the ballot access of a major party nominee is Fulani v Hogsett, 917 F 2d 1028 (7th cir., 1990). It said that Lenora Fulani did have standing to challenge the ballot placement of George H. W. Bush and Michael Dukakis, since their presidential elector candidates had been filed after the legal deadline in Indiana. Fulani was also on the ballot. She still lost the case on laches, since she had not filed it until eleven weeks after the Republicans and Democrats had failed to file timely."

"The Robinson lawsuit notes that there is some controversy as to whether McCain was born in Colon, Panama (which was never part of the Canal Zone), or whether he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, but for purposes of the lawsuit, it assumes he was born in the Canal Zone…

"In 1968, the California Supreme Court voted 6-1 that a presidential candidate who is not eligible to be president should not be placed on the ballot. Cleaver v Jordan, Calif. Supreme Court minutes, Sep. 26, 1968, case no. 7838, not reported. Thus if it were true that McCain were not eligible to be president, under the Eldridge Cleaver precedent, the California ballot should list a blank for president, and Sarah Palin for vice-president, for the Republican ticket. Of course, it is extremely unlikely that any federal judge would rule that McCain is not eligible to be president."

Judge Rules McCain’s U.S. Citizenship is "Highly Probable"


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