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  • Students Shot at University as Landmark Second Amendment Case Unfolds

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    Reuters
    February 14, 2008

    At least 17 shot in Illinois university class

    A man opened fire with a shotgun in a crowded lecture hall at Northern Illinois University on Thursday, wounding at least 17 people before killing himself, authorities said.

    Witnesses said terrified students, some of them bleeding profusely from neck and other wounds after being hit by buckshot, fled the classroom after the gunman began shooting seemingly at random from near the front of the room.

    “Some girl got hit in the eye, a guy got hit in the leg,” George Gaynor, a student who was in the hall told the Northern Star, the student newspaper on the campus.

    He said “a skinny white guy with a stocking cap on” began shooting about five minutes before a class on ocean science was to have ended. Another witness said the man suddenly appeared at the front of the auditorium carrying a shotgun and perhaps another weapon and began firing into the audience and at the teacher.

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    SAF Files Amicus Brief in D.C. Gun Ban Case Before Supreme Court

    PR Newswire
    February 12, 2008

    The Second Amendment Foundation has filed an amicus curiae brief in District of Columbia v Heller, the appeal of the landmark case that overturned the district’s handgun ban on the grounds that it unconstitutionally violates the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

    Written by attorney Nelson Lund at the George Mason University School of Law, the brief has already earned praise of veteran Second Amendment authority David Kopel, who noted in remarks on a popular Second Amendment website, “If you want to read a model Supreme Court brief, this is the brief to read.”

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    149 Responses to “Students Shot at University as Landmark Second Amendment Case Unfolds”

    1. Brian Says:

      ANOTHER SHOOTING?? This is getting rediculous, it’s like this is happening every month or two.

      I’m sorry but these shootings are happening far too often to be legitimate. Something very suspcious is going on.

      Wouldn’t surprise me if these were completely staged by the CIA, at least most of these shootings. These people are probably secretly hired to do this then later released and moved somehwere else under a new identity.

      WHY WOULD THEY STAGE THESE TYPES OF SHOOTINGS?

      TO PUSH GUN CONTROL AGENDA, PLAIN AND SIMPLE so when and if the neocons try and declare martial law, the American people will have a harder time arming themselves to prevent Government from overstepping their bounds.

      Maybe eventually Guns will be banned alltogether or they will make it almost impossible to obtain firearms. This is how they will take away our Second Amemdment Rights.

      Welcome to a new type of Flase Flag Terrorism, setting up random shootings, always claiming it was because some guy was “lonely, had no friends, had a lot of anger, was a loaner and played too many violent video games”. More terror and fear on the people to push an agenda.

    2. wayne Says:

      MK-ULTRA spooks and shrinks tested radiation, electric shocks, electrode implants, microwaves, ultrasound and a wide range of drugs on unwitting subjects, including hundreds of prisoners at California’s infamous Vacaville State Prison

    3. jon Says:

      i suppose there is a reason the united states military is secretly engaging in gun confiscation raid’s training ,guns will be outlawed.. its to protect the kids we cant have school shootings :X

    4. dylan Says:

      that is EXACTLY what i was thinking when i read this article.

    5. Bob Van Bemmelen Says:

      I agree with Brian 100%. 1984 is on it’s way. Pray and network with others of like mind. Prepare.
      Get off the grid as much as you can. Acquire precious metals as a barter currency, you will need it in the future,… when? Don’t know. The price of FREEDOM is eternal vigelance. Watch and pray! Peace!

    6. Gabriel A. King Says:

      Obama supports a bill disguised as “helping world poverty”, which happens to include a little clingon piggyback item- A WORLDWIDE BAN OF HANDGUNS AND LIGHT WEAPONS.
      Thank God the Constitution affirms that ANY LAW which infringes the 2nd amendment is UNLAWFUL, and we are not bound by it.
      I for one, will take the Constitution any day over the bogus underhanded chicanery of deviant secret society members posing as “politicians”.

    7. Hmmm Says:

      was he on prozak?

      hmmmm

    8. ACL Says:

      WHY WOULD THEY STAGE THESE TYPES OF SHOOTINGS?

      Maybe so they could begin declaring Martial Law in schools. Where they could also be sure that the students will be aloud to learn only what they see fit, also keeping an eye on the teachers and what they teach, to eventually shape and mould a student as the state feels is adequate. In short, to organize the education system in order to brainwash the younger generation into accepting the ideas of a New World Order.

    9. nick Says:

      Another case of Mind Control multi personality triggered in order to disarm the population. The multiplication of such cases proves that the final attack of the Illuminati criminal organizations is near. A population without a of self defend means is easy to terrorize, subdue and enslave.

      If someone will truly search the truth in this affair, will find the guy was contacted and in a way or other was trained by the secret service. Like ADN is unique for each human being, the traces of this crime lead uniquely to the government.

      Those who search the truth, will find it, always.

    10. Kaybowser Says:

      http://www.kishhospital.com/

      http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....;cset=true

    11. Kaybowser Says:

      Five dead in NIU shooting
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....0508.story

    12. debunker Says:

      I pray to God you sick fucks get cancer.

    13. Robert Allison Says:

      Odds are good he was on ritalin or some other so-called anti-depressant. I wonder what his connection to the military is, and what type of drugs he was on.

    14. debunker Says:

      And die slow painful deaths.

    15. Anarchyz0r Says:

      The way the media portrays it is that either obama or hillary will win, hands down.
      Most people read the media, so that’s what they’re going to read and probably how they’re going to vote.

      They’re playing the opposites cards – a black man and a woman. They’re both idiots. What else is similar? People will vote for them because they know about them. Anything else? Yeah, the shit tornado will continue to spin with either of them. But the thing is how could we ever count on one person, Ron Paul, to stop this tornado? Does a president really have that much power? The president has as much power as the people believe he has – i.e. if obama becomes president the whole of america will start to follow the president, regardless of if they like what he’s doing or not. It’s simple, they take it as a way of life. It is destructive. It is malicious. It is a scared animal, trying to keep itself from falling over. It is America.

      You know what America needs?

      A revolution. A proper, bloody, gory, revolution. The internal mechanisms are due for a clean.

      The only problem is THEY ARE READY… they’ve got all the guns, all the ‘right’, ‘might’, ‘oil’ and ‘power’

      But the question is are you ready?

      They’ll disguise it… they’ll make themselves feel like they’re saving US from OURSELVES, quelling the trouble makers, that sort of stuff. That’s how they’ll keep all the people involved enslaved within their story. Infact they’ve been doing that all this time, but it’s just going to become worse. When people realize they’re getting fucked over it’s going to become worse.

      For all of us are a lowly commoner in the eyes of the strong
      Until we point our gun at them

    16. GetAClue Says:

      The M.O. of the New World Order; Use CIA mind controlled operatives on psychotropic drugs to do your dirty work and further the goal of disarming the American People by legislative tyranny.

      Watch for the media hype about how this stooge was “depressed and angry” about not being included in the annual trip to SeaWorld because he was an unpopular geek.

      This is as obvious as the inside job of 9/11. Death to the New World Order.

    17. phantompatriot Says:

      FYI, debunker, asking God to give his people cancer is literally asking to get it yourself. You probably eat GM foods and drink tap water so it’s already a done deal:( Anyhow, I am 99% sure this is another staged event. Join GOA ASAP, I am joining this payday. On the plus side, there are about 90 million gun owners in America last time I heard. 90 million!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of coarse, a large percentage are dumber the dirt and would probably submit, but that is still a formidable obstacle that the NWO must overcome to really move forward with the NAU. Keep your rifle oiled and your powder dry!

    18. Caution Says:

      I for one am a little perplexed with the release of the cop brutality vids on TV news even. It reminds me of a bunch of bullies teasing a kid until he cannot take anymore then throws a futile right hook.
      It seems to me its been authorised to make you folks angry as hell so that you can be more easily profiled as a threat. Number One “Own your fear or someone else surely will” Number Two ..”better own your anger as well in case they are taunting you to step into their crosshairs. There are far too many posts here of folks threatening to resort to firepower. I do not live in the US so I am an outsider looking in and believe me it is truly unsettling and sickening to see the way things are going down. Maybe you will need a revolution I don’t know but whatever you decide to do own your fear and your anger. May God be with you all.

    19. cowboy bob Says:

      hopefully and more than likely defucker oooppps i mean debunker will die of cancer. ass kissers usually get it first, that way they cant get religion after seeing what they went along with!

    20. Andrew Reeves Says:

      (November 5th whitehouse administration welcome party) Good evening america. Allow me first to apologize for this intrusion. I do like many of you appreciate the everyday routine the security of the familliar. The tranquility, repitition. I enjoy them as much as many bloak. But in the spirit of commeration thereby those important events of the past; ussually associated with someones death or the end of some long bloody struggle; are celebrated with a nice holiday. I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that’s sadly no longer remembered by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who will not wish us to speak. I suspect orders will be shouted into phones and men with guns would soon be on their way. WHY? Because while the blunt instrument may be used in lue of conversation. Words will always maintain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and to those who will listen the announciation of truth. And the truth is there is something terribly wrong with this country isn’t there? Cruelty and injustice. Intollerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object. To think and speak as you saw fit. You now have censors controlling the mass media, your vote counts nothing and systems of survellance coercing your conformity. And submissing your submission to a slow march to tyranny. How did this happen? Who is to blame? Well certainly there are those like bush, cheny, and the elite who are more responcible than others and they will be held accountable for destroying the constitution. But again truth be told if your looking for the guilty you need only look in a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be. War. Terror. Anthrax-scares, weopons of mass destruction, dirty bombs… The list goes on and on. There were a million problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sence. Fear got the best of you. And in your panic you turned to the now highly over powered executive branch and it’s criminal counterparts the CIA, FBI, IRS and HOMELAND SECURITY. He promised you order. He promised you peace. And all he demanded in return was your silent obediant trust and concent. “Trust us.” He said. “We will take care of it.” Indeed he did. By taking away those few freedoms and setting a precident for a political strangle hold. The whole while not a single impressive protest. I do decare for the last 8 years I could have heard a pen drop when it has come to the slow poisiounious series of events that has slowly slipped by. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I started to protest to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen and patriot wished to embed the 5th of november forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words. They are our most important perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing. The slow march to Facism in this country. If the crimes of this govern=control ment=mind remain unknown to you then I would suggest that you allow the 5th of november to passed unmarked. And if you see as I see. If you feel as I feel. That the people should not fear their government but that the government should fear it’s people. And if you would seek as I seek to restore the balance of the people over the federal monster that is slowly evolving. Then I ask all 300 million of you to stand beside me November 5th 2008 outside the gates of the Whitehouse. And together we shall give this lesson that shall never ever be forgot. Free your mind.

    21. Brian Says:

      debunker, I wonder who you’re prayin’ to cause it certainly doesn’t sound like God.

      you’re probably one of those clueless evangelicals praying to cardboard cutouts of George W. Bush and praying for his booty bustin’ home boys like his former “Religious Advisor” who was bustin guy booty on meth. yeah, just what America needs, more mindless ass kissing people like you. Maybe you’d make a good guest at the Bohemian Grove joining in their homosexual circle jerk in the woods.

      Finally, what the hell kind of person are you? I wouldn’t ever dare waste God’s time praying for dumb shit like wishing people would get cancer, even those I despise and who properly even deserve it. If you don’t like to hear what informed, non brainwashed people are talking about, how about you just leave and get the hell out here? What exactly do you think your accomplishing?

    22. Dave Says:

      Too bad these human hunters don’t do the acts of violence at a Bilderberg Meeting. I think we would have a much more polite society if everyone was strapped. As it stands now, only the gangsters, ccw holders and fuckin cops can protect themselves from this kind of bullshit.

    23. nustada Says:

      It makes alot of sense actually, because if someone sues the city no matter what the NWO wins.

      If someone sues and they win, the taxpayers are the one held responsible. And enouph suets taxes will be raised, more taxes more control. Furthermore, they know very well the people are too drugged up to provide any resistance by voting who can be voted on out.

      If the person sueing loses it increasing their control by inciting a feeling of helplessness.

      I think the best thing would be to sue the individuals personally who are liable, not the city. It may not mean as much money, but overall I think it would be better. Plus that would turn the table on who is inciting the fear.

    24. me Says:

      Permit=permission=the opposit of a right
      Right=right
      Shall not be infringed=plain simple language
      Keep=own
      Bear=carry

      What is the confusion about?

    25. jason Says:

      duh, this is a typical ploy of a grassroots campaign….see, big time lobbyists follow laws from the moment they are first introduced in congress to the time it gets signed into law, and they push for it daily….and when big it comes up on the schedule to be talked about in congress, thousands of lobbyists will write letters, wait out front of congress, call people, etc to get their lobbying done……this is no different….it’s all about timing….if 17 innocent people died today, then it’ll be really hard to vote against the gun ban….

    26. PatriotsWrath Says:

      To bad they don’t do their hunting where I am.

      They wouldn’t last long.

    27. Daniel Medina Says:

      CANT BELIVE THIS IS JUST 30 MIN AWAY FROM MY HOUSE, I LIVE IN AURORA, IL!!!

    28. Aaron Jones Says:

      I just wonder if this man was on one of those drugs like Ritalin

    29. tom Says:

      THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE UNIVERSITIES AND SCHOOLS ARE DISARMED……THE LAW DOESNT ALLOW GUNS IN SCHOOL…….SO DIDNT THIS GUY UNDERSTAND, THAT HE WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GUN IN THE UNIVERSITY……YOU PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, THAT YOU CANT HAVE A GUN IN A UNIVERSITY OR A SCHOOL…….ITS A LAW…..WHY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT…….CONGRESS NEEDS TO PASS ANOTHER LAW TO MAKE BIG HUGE SIGNS AT THE FRONT OF ALL SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES THAT SAY, “YOU CANT HAVE A GUN ON A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS OR SCHOOL GROUNDS”…….WHEN I WALK DOWN THE STREET LATE AT NIGHT IN THE DARK I ALWAYS HAVE A BIG SIGN THAT READS “I DONT HAVE A GUN, JUST ASK ME”….NOBODY EVER BOTHERS ME…….CONGRESS NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THIS BIG HUGE SIGN IDEA CLOSER…….IT MIGHT HELP

    30. damon Says:

      How do the NWO commie leftwinger anti-Christ people recruit and brainwash these people into committing these mass shootings? OH! I just forgot, “Because there’s a war on for your mind” !!!
      Don’t think for a minute folks that these sick people aren’t being mentally emptied and then taught to kill and used for the “AGENDA” of the neocons. Some day it wil be revealed!!!

    31. fj Says:

      I think Tom has a good idea. The people just don’t realize that since the shooter brought an illegal gun into a gun free zone, the bullets fired from said gun are also null and void and therefore don’t kill, MY GOD, someone should run to the morgue and tell them so they can get on with their lives! I just finished with reading some blogs on another news report about this tragedy and hearing the absolute garbage that is flowing out of the empty heads of the anti-gun Nazi’s is enough to make you rip out your hair. These people will never understand this issue and it is so basic of a human right to protect yourself, they can never possibly understand the threat of something as complex as the NWO or the extreme dangers of a Happy Meal for that matter. It’s days like this that make me feel good about having a concealed carry permit. The only way this stupidity is ever going to end is when the students start shooting back! The only thing that we can take to heart about the anti-gun crowd is, they will be the first sheep led to slaughter by the NWO, possibly buying time for the rest of us. LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL OF ITS GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!

    32. PTARD Says:

      Unfortunately it does feel as something is rotten!! And I am afraid triggering devices will be used to bring about more of this!! It’s ashame people (media) does’nt show the flipside, if everyone(anyone else) there that day had a concealed weapon more people would be alive today. But as long as the police have all the guns we will all be safe? By the way nobody ever calls the police until the crime is committed, sometimes takes 10-15 min for them to show up? is that safe? We need our nation to stop depending on big goverment to protect us and police to protect us individually. That’s the only chance for freedom.

    33. Thomas jefferson Says:

      Our Beloved Republic is on its knees,waiting the death blow from the Elites,all that do not comply
      will be “educated” in club Fema.

    34. MadAsHeck Says:

      I’m sorry, i hate to say this, I really do, but I don’t believe that all of these shootings lately are just HAPPENING out of the blue. Who lets someone with a SHOTGUN onto a school campus? Pistols, yea, you can easily hide them, but a SHOTGUN?! You’d have to have a XL trenchcoat for that, and they don’t allow huge trenches like that at schools anymore BECAUSE of stuff like this. I just have a feeling that someone is making all of these happen because like almost 5 in one year is just fishy. Like with that VT shooting, that guy was brainwashed and controlled. There are way too many things that were wrong with that event for it to all be coincidence. Sry, but I really just can’t believe that it is becoming popular to shoot up your school (use the term loosely). When you have bastards willing to kill the popular candidate with a mind-controlled assassin (RFK), it wouldn’t be much to orchestrate something like this. Not 100%, but this is just getting out of hand.

    35. Kyle Gruskovak Says:

      As sad as it is to hear that this has happened again and that its only 20 to 30 mins away from me. I wasn’t shocked just knew that its another wacky shooting again. Thought to myself just like the rest of you well informed people. Thought oh like to see what he use to do for the gov and what mental issues he had that made him brainwashed like the last shootings.

      Freedom means being free not Fearing everything around you. Which the media washes everyone with fear that this will happened to you and that you need to give your guns up Now! and take the chip so your safe. Then one happy nation lives with no protection and can’t defend themselves.

      The present time we live is almost like the movie Brazil…. check it out…

      Orwell Saw and Knew…

    36. Kaybowser Says:

      NIU noted gunman’s scholarship
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....1284.story

      Academic Criminal Justice Association
      http://www.sa.niu.edu/acja.html
      Vice-President:
      Steve Kazmierczak

      2006 Annual Student Awards and Recognition
      http://www.sociology.niu.edu/W.....ards06.htm
      Dean’s Award: Steven Kazmierczak

    37. colitas Says:

      I here in omaha, were he mall shooting was. The police response time was 5 mins! Still many people died and the shooter had killed himself before the police were even on the grounds. you should have seen the letters to editor in the Omaha Weird Herald. people explainging that you had to be in a militia to own a gun. These people don’t even know the 2nd amendment, let alone the intentions of the Founders, or history for that matter. All of this after the city of Omaha passed a concealed to carry law. Even though it became the norm to post to gun signs outside of area businesses, even the Mall were the shootings occured! Too bad the sticker didn’t protect the victims that day! Live Free or DIE

    38. Kaybowser Says:

      Criminology & Public Policy
      http://www.blackwell-synergy.c.....06.00111.x

      note this guy jim thomas possible handler/mentor?
      Advisor:
      Jim Thomas
      E-mail:
      jthomas@sun.soci.niu.edu

    39. Aaron Says:

      All the news reports say that authorities have no idea what could have sparked this latest shooting– taking a peek in his medicine cabinet might shed a little light.

    40. Richard Norton Says:

      Those that support and actively push for gun control are complicit in the deaths of these innocents!
      They should be shamed.

    41. Tex Says:

      The kid was probably on some sort of anti- depressant, who knows, but another excuse to attack the 2nd amendment is there.

    42. AgentConrad716 Says:

      We’re watching you. Be careful what you say.

    43. mealymouth Says:

      eat shit. go watch your mortality make itself evident to you in the mirror, slime. i’m directing this comment at agent conRAG.

    44. AgentConrad716 Says:

      Talk trash all you want. But we’re watching and we know when you sleep. The time is soon.

    45. mealymouth Says:

      you’re the one talking trash, nwo dick. you’re also the one being watched this moment. how’s it feel?

    46. mealymouth Says:

      and the time is never, creep.

    47. AgentConrad716 Says:

      Messing with the United States Government isn’t wise. Let it go.

    48. Kaybowser Says:

      Jim Thomas, Steven’s mentor
      http://jthomasniu.org/bio/jtvita.html
      maybe Alex should give the guy a call?

    49. mealymouth Says:

      i AM the united states government, JACKASS. and don’t fucking threaten me. i am the last person on this good earth you want to mess with. now, ONE MORE TIME: consider your own mortality, and stow the bullshit, son. i, like many others will bleed and die defending liberty. something we will NEVER “let go” of. threaten me, and you threaten my 9 month old son. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT YOU YOU THINK YOU ARE A PART OF GOVERNING, OR WHO YOU ARE FUCKING WITH? better get educated. go on, send ‘em you little bitch.

    50. mealymouth Says:

      the shit is getting ready to hit the ‘ol fan, boys and girls. time to put up or shut up.

    51. mealymouth Says:

      weeellllllllll……..c’mon bitchboy! have ‘em knock down my door.

    52. AGENT ALITHEIAS of AGDT Says:

      AgentConrad716; if you are watching them, who is watching you?

    53. AgentConrad716 Says:

      Know your place MealyMouth. That’s all I’m saying. Let us do our thing without interference.

    54. Michael Says:

      This is simply part of the New World Order’s Agenda to DISARM US Citizens!~ And when the story goes that someone just happened to open fire- it was no accident-it was PLANNED!

    55. The Thought Says:

      Exactly Michael!

    56. mealymouth Says:

      what “thing” is it you are referring to? are you blind, or do you enjoy watching the people of your own nation treated with such cavalier disregard for their humanity, as though they did not understand the big picture like YOU think you do? it’s funny that you can’t even see the very real danger you pose to yourself as much as to those you believe you have the authority to “rule”. there is ONE source of AUTHORITY. it is not the very bad people who have taken control of our government OFFICES, and who, by nefarious means, hidden from view have usurped the seats of true authority in this good nation, which seats belong exclusively to the PEOPLE, not those who wish only to subdue them. get HONOR. don’t presume to school me. i am more than likely old enough to be your father. i will relent only in saying that i care about you as much as anyone breathing, and only wish for you to rise above any desire you may have to put yourself above anyone else. get some sleep, after you’ve allowed yourself to digest that. i assure you, your sleep will be sweeter then.

    57. FEDupwithFEDS Says:

      A VISITOR FROM THE PAST
      by Thelen Paulk

      I had a dream the other night, I didn’t understand.
      A figure walking through the mist, with flintlock in his hand.
      His clothes were torn and dirty, as he stood there by the bed,
      He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low, he said:

      “We fought a revolution, to secure our liberty.
      We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny,
      For future generations, this legacy we gave,
      In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

      “The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you’d always keep.
      But tyrants labored endlessly, while your parents were asleep.
      Your freedom gone, your courage lost, you’re no more
      than a slave,
      In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

      “You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun,
      Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one.
      On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent,
      Although you have no voice in choosing how the money’s spent.”

      “Your children must attend a school that doesn’t educate.
      Your Christian values can’t be taught, according to the state.
      You read about the current news, in a regulated press.
      You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the I.R.S.”

      “Your money is no longer made of silver or of gold.
      You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled.
      You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God in shame,
      You’ve taken Satan’s number, as you’ve traded in your name.”

      “You’ve given government control to those who do you harm,
      So they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm,
      And keep the country deep in debt, put men of God in jail,
      Harass your fellow countrymen, while corrupted courts prevail.”

      “Your public servants don’t uphold the solemn oath they’ve sworn.
      Your daughters visit doctors so their children won’t be born.
      Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
      And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people’s wars.”

      “Can you regain freedom for which we fought and died?
      Or don’t you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride?
      Are there no more values for which you’ll fight to save?
      Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?”

      “Sons of the Republic, arise and take a stand!
      Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
      Preserve our great republic and each God-given right,
      And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright!”

      As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from which he came.
      His words were true, we are not free. We have ourselves to blame.
      For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right,
      We only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight.

      If he stood by your bedside, in a dream while you’re asleep,
      And wondered what remains of our rights he fought to keep,
      What would be your answer, if he called out from the grave?
      Is this still the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave?

    58. mealymouth Says:

      and my conscience still bears using words like shit and fuck, in case you want to brand me as a hypocrite. they’re just words.

    59. sAs Says:

      man i dont know about this one!
      do we know anythiong about the gunman ?

      fuck the nwo!

    60. mealymouth Says:

      i knew a simple soldier boy who grinned at life in empty joy, slept soundly through the lonesome dark, and whistled early with the lark. in winter trenches, cowed and glum, withcrumps and lice and lack of rum, he put a bullet through his brain, no one spoke of him again. you smug-faced crowd with kindling eyes, who cheer when soldier lads march by, sneak home and pray you’ll never know the hell where youth and laughter go.

    61. mealymouth Says:

      i did not post that as a retort to your very moving poem, FEDupwithFEDS,. it is, unfortunately the reality we live in that there are still tyrannical powers to fight. it is not glorious to suffer and die. but neither is it shameful to die fighting for liberty. how did we get this way? why must these things be? the only answers will come from free-thinking and liberated peoples.

    62. Hey Mo Hey Mo Says:

      Again, if the 2nd amend. was in place., there would have been 100 guns pointed at this guy as soon as he walked in the door. Self-defense and the 2nd Amend. have been taken away and this is what you get. Just look around.

    63. JonTheSavage Says:

      Why did the MSM not pay attention to the Church shooting? Probably because someone in church pulled out a gun, and shot the SOB that was firing on the congregation.

    64. I am NOT me Says:

      Don’t give up your guns for any excuse or reason. If you are a true patriot, and concerned about what is going on, carry your weapon as you logically see the need (logically being the key word) everywhere you go. Don’t show it to anyone or brag about it. If you need to use it in defense, do so, then have a plan to make it disappear till you get through with whatever follows.

      These people who shoot things up like this may well be Manchurian Candidates, on drugs, and sleepers, put there to distract you, and to make the elites gun grabbing plans look good to sheeple.

      Be Alert … Be Aware … Be Prepared … and do not be intimidated by them. We are at war whether people want to admit it or not. The “Tribulation” is part of the Jesuit plan, and it IS happening now, and it WILL get worse.

      In reality, the NWO is the true Luciferian organized movement.

      God does exist, but not in the manner that we have all been brainwashed with. The God of creation does not harm us nor does He desire what the Zionists and the Jesuits, including the Pope, would have you believe.

      Remember this … the Bible as we know it, was penned by man … rewritten by the Constantine Catholics, and what man touches, man corrupts.

      Trust your heart and your logic.

    65. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      I rebuke that, and I rebuke you I LOVE THE NWO, in the name of Jesus. you’re a disgrace to this country, the Lord will get you, and the NWO can’t save you from him.

    66. Captain America Says:

      hey “i love the NWO”…ur an idiot. Now sit down and eat ur waffle w/ ur toothpick u tard and stfu. U wont have that money for long douche so dont get too close to it dum dum.

    67. j freeland Says:

      you ain’t that rich stupid.How many banks do you own?How many oil empires do you own.Sorry there really isn’t even time to insult each other and this is way to important.you will be harmed and you are being harmed every day.
      You obviously believe in the nwo but if you had that kind you would’nt even be on this website you stupid government agent we are’nt the enemy .
      we all have kids and wives.

      nwo you sound like a child ( a really imature child at best).Matbey you’ll be one of the guys the next shooter gets because nobdy around him has the means to protect themselves or you.

    68. chuck Says:

      All these school shootings lately are going to bring some harsh legislation over our 2nd amendment rights. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama wins that he takes a stab at it. Remember he banned guns in Chicago.

    69. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      Hey captain America, you’re a disgrace to this country too, no one cares about your waffle and toothpick comment… I rebuke you as well, in Jesus’s mighty name.

    70. mealymouth Says:

      STEWART HUNKLER: easy, pard. i agree w/you, but Jesus’ Name isn’t something to toss around like that without really considering what you’re rebuking. faith tempered with wisdom. go off on the guy in your own name, and if you’re right about it God will back you up.

    71. mealymouth Says:

      besides, Captain America was calling him a tard.

    72. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      it’s time we excersised our god given powers, and just disolve this abomination with prayer, and truth…and force if it comes down to it and God wills it, I prophecy the NWO will brake to peaces, and fade away, and we will enter a knew age, and God will renew the earth from all their filth, and poison, and genetic abominations, in the name of Jesus

    73. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      Jesus is the only name that’s going to bring down something as big as the NWO…mealymouth, so I’m tossing it at them, and anyone who wants to upset this movement of truth, and work for those filthy creatures. I forgive them, but I’m still going to resist them, and pray for their defeat.

    74. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      Hey, I LOVE THE NWO, no one cares, go somewhere else and speak your lies, you’re a piece of trash, and a disgrace to our founding fathers

    75. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      good riddance to you I LOVE THE NWO

    76. I am NOT me Says:

      I have a suspicion that “I Love The NWO” is posting in satire.

      I could be wrong, but it is possible he is trying to illustrate that type of thinking.

      Then again … he might be a dolt

    77. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      I got no time for satire, I’m on a mission

    78. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      you’ll be on your hands and knees, begging and gnashing your teeth before the Lord, Just like the rest of us I LOVE THE NWO…

    79. I LOVE THE NWO = JED = TOOL Says:

      Hi Jed,

      Today, after you punched the clock, you decided to become “I love the NWO”.

      Hmm…nice cloak.

      JED = I LOVE NWO = TOOL

      keep sucklin’ the government teat…pig

    80. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      Also gave you the oppertunity to lose you’re soul, apparently I LOVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER

    81. Ian Says:

      Let me guess, he was on anti depressents too right? Lol, yes blame the guns, but not the drug companies who made this kid angry threw the use of their prescribed drug that has know side affect like extreem anger. No but it is clearly the guns fault… right?

    82. Chaoticlast Says:

      This man was brainwashed by the CIA.
      This incident will only further the agenda of banning the right to bear arms.

    83. not crazy Says:

      It’s hard to assume all of these cases are programmed MKULTRA.

      Be reasonable. Life as we know it is fast. Fast and hard. Some people buckle under pressure. Add some legal meds and you have disaster.

    84. Jeff Says:

      It has been downed to six dead and 16 wounded

    85. npd1969 Says:

      MK Ultra fingerprints all over this latest school / university shooting.

    86. Bubba Says:

      Thank you very much, gun control statists.

    87. Bubba Says:

      Thank you, gun control statists.

    88. curiosososos Says:

      #
      91
      npd1969 Says:
      February 15th, 2008 at 9:55 am

      MK Ultra fingerprints all over this latest school / university shooting.

      Please explain the “fingerprints”.

    89. Gabriel A. King Says:

      As usual. Random sensless act. Uh, motive? Psychatropic drugs? Psychiatric history? Possible government involvement? Wheres the rest of the story- corporate media? If your gonna get all jacked up on psychatropics and go on a shooting spree, don’t shoot innocent students at a University (unless they’re Skull&Boners), go visit a FEMA office.

    90. Shep Says:

      And as usual, the only person armed was the crazy one. If perhaps there were a bunch of others in that classroom with the ability to fight back, this would have been over very quickly. When guns are criminalized, only criminals will have guns.

    91. I Love the NWO = JED = BOOTLICKER = TOOL Says:

      I Love the NWO = JED = BOOTLICKER = TOOL

    92. I LOVE NWO = DISINFO = JED Says:

      Hi Jed,

      How are the other sites today. You doin’ plenty of keyboarding today?

      keep suckin’ on the gov teat…pig.

    93. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      Don’t even bother listening to “I LOVE THE NWO”, he’s a scumbag, worthless piece of trash, total disgrace to his country, he should move to a communist country where no one questions the government.

    94. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      you’re not wealthy, I LOVE THE NOW, you’re such a liar

    95. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      listen to this kook (I love the NWO) he thinks we’re crazy…he’s such a wack job

    96. watchdog Says:

      @ I Love the NWO

      Goood! Now bow down and take your chip you wealthy little slave!!

    97. Rod Says:

      think about spending part or all of your government rebate check at your favorite gun store. this will do 2 things, first it will keep the money in the U.S.A. ( if you buy an American made gun ) and also it will send a mesage to the law makers that we are not ready to give up are guns. Also use some of the money to join Gun Owners Of America not The NRA. if we do nothing they will for sure take are guns.

      Thanks And if you think this is a good idea spread it around !!!

    98. watchdog Says:

      @ I Love the NWO

      …and remember we always feed the pigs fat – before we kill them. So eat , be wealthy so we can take it when you good and ready!

    99. Rod Says:

      I Love the NWO.
      that is not rich. $250,000. house paid for that is not worth $250.000. and 55,000. in the bank. they can take your house and sence $1.00 dollar is worth only .40 cents you have nothing just like us.

    100. Nick Says:

      This is just another mind controlled ‘Manchuarian Candidate’ style shooting, it’s so obvious! Funny how all these school shootings are all remarkably similar. A current or former student who has been acting strangely in recent months or years with a history of anti depressant use suddenly goes completely mental, dresses himself up in black assault gear, shoots a load of students and then turns the gun on himself. You’d think our Aristocratic, inbred masters would use a little more creativity, or then again, perhaps not! I hope all you Americans are busy spending all the spare cash you have to arm yourselves to the teeth! There may be a show down!

    101. Rod Says:

      I Love the NWO

      wake up.
      I will pray for you.
      And I hope you do live the good life.
      Im not upset with you becuse you are doing well , im just telling you you have nothing if you think about it that 55k will not last you 1year.
      guns and gold
      God bless you
      Rod A.

    102. Nick Says:

      Something tells me we’ll be seeing alot of I Love the NWO on this article.

    103. mart Says:

      Where is PROOF all these rampage shooters killed themselves afterwards? Where is PROOF the FBI didn’t stretcher these rampage shooters away alive and well?

    104. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      you’re not a proud American, I LOVE THE NWO, your a scumbag, the founding father’s would have challenged you to a dual and killed you. The only thing protecting scum like you is what’s left of the bill of rights…

    105. Nick Says:

      I Love the NWO. If we are all crazy, then why are you bothering to post replies to us all? Don’t you have better things to do?

    106. Gabriel A. King Says:

      I love the NWO? Ha! Here’s another perfect example of a piece of shit who would sell out his countrymen and his very soul to lick the crumbs from Rothchilds table. Hope you enjoy whatever form of bribes the NWO has given you in return for betraying the truth. But when you come home one day and find your wife fuckin some other guy on the couch, i’ll bet you either join in, or begin to reconsider the consequences of your dishonest life, and spiritually bankrupt deformed and twisted delusion that your a GOOD CITIZEN.

    107. Gabriel A. King Says:

      Here’s some other loons, moron. One of them was a general in command of all our US NATO military forces stationed in Europe. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
      Clear cut idiots like yourself only strengthen our position in the eyes of the general public.

    108. Shep Says:

      Illinois college shooter stopped medication: police

      Guns don’t kill people, pharmaceuticals kill people.

      http://www.reuters.com/article.....dChannel=0

    109. Illumnati Overlord Says:

      “113
      Nick Says:

      February 15th, 2008 at 10:43 am
      This is just another mind controlled ‘Manchuarian Candidate’ style shooting, it’s so obvious! Funny how all these school shootings are all remarkably similar. A current or former student who has been acting strangely in recent months or years with a history of anti depressant use suddenly goes completely mental, dresses himself up in black assault gear, shoots a load of students and then turns the gun on himself. You’d think our Aristocratic, inbred masters would use a little more creativity, or then again, perhaps not! I hope all you Americans are busy spending all the spare cash you have to arm yourselves to the teeth! There may be a show down!”

      Mind control? HA!!!

      It looks like someone here is mentally unstable. Tinfoil is very cheap, and you’ll need to cover your body with every square inch so we can’t see your thoughs.

    110. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      no one even cares what I LOVE THE NWO has to say anyway, he’s worthless, God will punish him… People like him are gonna get it the worst, that’s why the Bible says people like him should enjoy their reward now, because it’s all they’re gonna get…then it’s burning in hell for eternity Bub…if he doesn’t wake up before then, he will in hell, but then it will be too late.

    111. Lauren Donald Haskins Jr. Says:

      Hey, “I Love the New World Order”, are you voting for “Hitlery” or “McChicane”?
      You’re not worth our time, you have had too much Tap Water, and need to keep telling yourself that the most guarded building (The Pentagon) in the most powerful country (USA) was attacked by cave dwellers who were able to get a commercial jetliner through a 16’ in diameter hole, YOU my friend need to go put YOUR tinfoil hat on, and you need to think outside the FOX.

    112. Illumnati Overlord Says:

      I don’t think it is the tap water. I drank well water and surface water all my life and I still think you morons are crazy. If you live in the city and drink filtered water and kool-aid, I’m starting to wonder what those snake-oil filter salesmen put in their products.

      It can’t be too good for you.

    113. Illumnati Overlord Says:

      I Love the NWO Says:
      LOL….. at post 132.
      February 15th, 2008 at 11:43 am

      Thanks, ILTNWO, thought you needed an ally here.

      The conspiracy nuts are fun to mix it up with.

      Just couldn’t resist a jab at the water filters that these nuts seem to hold in high regard.

    114. Illumnati Overlord Says:

      Why on earth do these morons even claim that there is some conspiracy that is hiding behind every rock, every tree and in every nook and cranny?

      It doesn’t make sense.

    115. Aaron Says:

      Interesting how these other posts completely ignore the serious and sensitive topic at hand.
      I think this shooting is very disturbing. I work at a college and it is serious!

      and, by the way it’s easy to dismiss and make fun. It’s harder to face reality and deal with serious subjects that might disrupt your entire world view and sense of security.

      Those few that aren’t brainwashed by the controlled media and can psychologically handle the truth, know that the official story of 9/11 is pure FICTION!

    116. Aaron Says:

      Hey you New World Odor/ Illuminati Overlord boot-lickers. Go someplace else to jack off your egos!

    117. STB Says:

      What’s wrong with you two? Talk about losing touch with reality, perhaps you should take a break from mocking people with different opinions and do some research into why they have those opinions. What am I saying…obviously if your posting comments at infowars you’ve been exposed to some of the truth – either you’d rather just lie to yourselves than face it or you know the truth and are minions of the same elite that are being exposed.

    118. Scooch Says:

      Oh well, time to ban all guns and implement gestapo-style security measures on every city block.
      Boy if you can’t figure this one out, if you are as pathetically sad and naive as “I Love NWO”, then go
      get yourselves some antidepressants. These killer drugs are responsible for ALMOST EVERY MASS SHOOTING in the last 25 years (Donald Rumsfeld, pharmaceutical CEO responsible for proliferation of killer Aspartame etc.). The INSANE DRUG WAR is responsible for most of the rest. Your precious government pushes these drugs on MILLIONS of children under the age of ten while claiming to wage a war on drugs. If you think it’s a coincidence that six or seven attacks have happened in the PAST WEEK ALONE right before major anti-gun legislation is voted on, then you are living on Mars. Get sophisticated. Get educated. Learn, oh, SOMETHING about the elites that have stage-managed reality for hundreds of years, or shut the fuck up.

    119. poluin Says:

      I am a foreigner and it seems so strange. I am Japanese and I talk to British people often in Japan,
      they all don’t go to USA, it sounds crazy, they said.
      DO you know why? because USA people have guns.
      USA is so strange country people who want to have guns.
      Guns are only killing tool, nothing else.
      But you believe if you have it, you can survive.
      Gun bans must prepare to
      No1 confiscate all guns first,
      No2 also must stop to produce guns in any factories in USA.
      No3 Must stop to import guns.
      USA’s gun ban law is only ask people to not have guns.

      That’s why problem has never stopped.

      From foreigners eyes, what ’s USA doing until now?

      But only one thing, I can tell you, even you have guns , you might be killed by guns some day.

      I have been in gun ban countries, I could study safely , kids can play anywhere,
      people can go anywhere, economics grow up, people can get together everywhere.

      At midnight, it is OK to walk around town, town is beautiful and not blood smell any where,
      No shooting holes anywhere, people can get drink and go back to their house safely by taking trains.
      Trains are so safe.

      Police and security only have guns ( army too) and they don’t need to use guns often because
      most of case, people don’t have guns, police also don’t need to use guns to arrest people.

      Gun ban countries are so safe and nice.

      I don’t say 100% safe, but much better, the % you might be involving shooting that is 0.0001%
      in gun buns.

      But how about USA?
      Almost everyday, gun shooting happened.

      People feel fear and want to have guns.

      Use your brain, to have guns are only your protection?

      I believe people can invent alternative tool to protect themselves but it does not need to kill others.

      Everything, so old fashion.

      And Americans complain tax rase but they don’t think gun bans are important and urgent.

      You know, you guys are so strange and poor , have never known safe country.

      But you are in USA which communist .

    120. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      POLUIN, when we lived in the so called “wild west” crime was very low, now that we have gun bans, crime is high…also that is why no country in it’s right mind would invade the USA, because they would be facing about 100,000,000 people with guns. The only way to take over our country would be exactally the way it’s being done right now, by our own government, which people have trusted, turning against the people, but owning the media to which at the same time is saying it’s for our own good.

    121. KP Says:

      Take the guns away? A gun ban…you people need your heads examined. Is the gun really even relevant to a situation like this??? The gun is irrelevant, incidental even. People can kill others, regardless of the availability of guns or not. The only difference a gun makes is to put it plainly, it is more efficient. When you are under complete control (we’re close with the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Homegrown Terrorism Act, and the new Surveillance/Privacy Act), you can use machetes to wipe out a population (see Rwanda). You people are so blind and it is this type of ignorance that may result in tragedy…The last thing the Nazis did was take away the citizens’ guns and we know what happened next. The only thing that stands in the way of dictatorship is the Constitution and last I checked it allows us “to bear arms”. If you give them up willingly, you are a willing accomplice in your own demise.

    122. STEWART HUNKLER Says:

      If almost everyone has a gun, then no one in their right minds is going to go around robbing and stealing from people, that’s how it works…we also own guns so that the government will fear us. The tyranny here would be much worse than it is right now if we didn’t own guns, and the rest of the world not be safe, because our government would not have us to keep them in check. If we didn’t all own guns here, the NWO would have took over the world by now, no doubt about it.

    123. Scooch Says:

      Poulin, when the government bans all guns, then only criminals and the government will have guns. Do you want to be at the mercy of either? Why do you think a shooter can kill twenty people at once? Because noone else has a gun to stop them and protect the innocent. No offense, but I don’t think you understand America at all. Without guns, we would never have had the American Revolution and freed ourselves temporarily from the (pre)fascists. I think you are having an emotional response to the violence like a lot of people. But did you think to suggest that America should ban all these hundreds of HARDCORE MIND-ALTERING SEROTONIN-REUPTAKE INHIBITING KILLER PSYCHOACTIVE POISONS peddled by tghe pharmaceutical industry, which are found to be involved in alomost every one of these acts of violence? You may think you’re safe in those countries, but you are certainly not free. Poulin, we have a Constitution whose aim is to PROTECT US from the insanity of government gone crazy. And you suggest handing them our guns? Let’s just give the keys to the asylum over to the lunatics. Study the world. First comes gun confiscation. Then comes mass extermination with little resistance.

    124. A. Magnus Says:

      “Gun ban countries are so safe and nice.”

      Violent crime has risen in both England and Australia since guns were banned there; how is that safe and nice? Maybe if you think being dead is safe and nice then your statement makes sense.

      “Police and security only have guns ( army too) and they don’t need to use guns often because
      most of case, people don’t have guns, police also don’t need to use guns to arrest people.”

      Yeah, like in Tiannanmen Square, right? Ask that Brazilian guy De Menzies about the virtues of only having the police armed – oh yeah, that’s right, you can’t because the police shot him dead!

    125. Devin Says:

      Never ever let the government take your guns away. An unarmed public is a cake walk for corrupt government law makers. An unarmed public means your say doesn’t count at the debate table…

      ** note – peanuts kill more people then terrorism does (worldwide)
      ** note – The U.S. is slowing dying

    126. EricPerson Says:

      Poulin. “Police and security only have guns ( army too)” Is that really a gun ban? No it isn’t. If it were then no one at all would have guns. You’ve been living in care bear land, and this is not a video game. At any time those Police and Military can start shooting because “the population has become diseased with the RAGE virus,” or some such “reasonable” sounding thing.

      Recently, my friend got in trouble and went to jail for a little bit because he bought a gun at a gun show. It might not be a good idea to let government agencies know what you have. Just a suggestion. Either way everyone needs multiple weapons. Not for attacking, but for defending. Definately, not for attacking. Who would we attack? Richie Rich? Richie Rich isn’t ever going to be on the battlefield. Attacking at this point is completely useless. But if the police come to try and violate your rights. At least you have a choice. That’s why we want guns Poulin, so that we have a choice when at long last it matters.

    127. cuda Says:

      Bravo SCOOCH I need not comment yours works for me.#148

    128. robert Says:

      Poluin Your Full of Shit so stay in j….pan you fucking idiot.

    129. Bill Brasky Says:

      Cointel pro is working overtime today, happy to see the usual comebacks like youz allz bee nvtz. You only need to wait until your masters need your organs then you can enter the great white throne judgement and surf the lake of fire, have fun with that! ;)

    130. Lauren Donald Haskins Jr. Says:

      Hey, “I love the NWO”, the Cave Dweller story comes from you numb nuts remember?… No, you don’t?… proof you eat toothpaste and drink tap water… probably inbread too, I like the fact that your little games don’t work here… you should try FOX News chat rooms or something… but, your more than welcome here too… Free Country and All… and for all of you that don’t understand, if Police have guns and Criminals have guns, but you don’t have that right that = not equal, it’s pretty simple math, that even “I love the NWO” could get his simple brain to figure out.
      By the way “I love NWO” are you jacking off right now to a picture of Dick Cheney? Free Country and All… you can be honest!

    131. andy Says:

      A MESSAGE TO THE RESISTANCE:

      CONTINUE NOT TO BUY RETAIL GOODS. CONTINUE NOT TO BUY RETAIL GOODS. CONTINUE NOT TO SPEND MONEY. REPEAT, SAVE YOUR MONEY.

      DOWN WITH THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.

    132. David Says:

      Here is the thing people have to wake up from
      1 They need to learn the Difference Between ((((RIGHTS)))) And (((LICENSE)))
      The second amendment is and Has Been GONE since the Passage of the FIRST!!!!!!!! Piece of shit Uhmm I mean gun legislation.
      even now we know the NRA is a turncoat Organization . When the first Piece of gun legislation was past the SO CALLED Opponent
      ORGANIZATIONS!!!!! Knowing and Willfully Misrepresented the TRUE Nature Of What Happened.
      They Called it (((((((((An encroachment on our second amendment Right))))))))) in the public media. THAT WAS THE LIE!!!! It was in Fact
      The abolishment and substitution of our second amendment Right With a License. which of course was granted at the time.
      this Lie was 2 fold 1 It was a psychological OP. it sub-CON-Science_ly suggested to the masses that 1 the right still exists.
      and 2. (MOST DAMAGING EVEN TODAY) That rights and license can Co exist. They can co exist like water can mix with oil
      good can dwell with evil and a woman can be SORT OF pregnant. All the judges, prosecutors, Hi profile LIE Um lawyers Know this has been the case for decades and also know that it will not be long before the License Is completely revoked
      Blacks Law Dictionary Spells it out extreeeeeeeeemly clear. A right belongs to a sovereign and License Belongs to a SLAVE!!!!!!!!!
      If the so called outraged groups in the media at that time called it what it was. not encroachment BUT ABOLISHMENT of the right and substitution of the right with license.
      the people would have revolted and there would have been a few members of government and secret organizations Dangling from the gallows For HIGH TREASON!!!!! as they should have been.As most of the members of congress and the white house and the last few to the present administration and the media shils and neocons IN GOVERNMENT should all Be HANGED for treason.

    133. Jack Says:

      SCOOCH: It is not a co-incidence that suddenly all these shootings have happened close in time to the anti-gun legislation hearings, but you say it’s because of the drugs they take causing this to happen. This certainly may play a part in this, but how did they get the shooters to commit the acts at a time they needed instead of it happening randomly over time? The answer: mind control. I suspect all of the shooters who go on a rampage then kill themselves are the victims of the CIA run mind control program which is now a leftover form of the MK-ULTRA program. Supposedly many kids have been taken and programmed and released into society and are “triggered” to follow orders like a total slave at any time their controller wishes. To learn more about this insane but true idea see http://www.educate-yourself.org See articles on mind control. These illuminati never fail to amaze me at the lengths they will go to try and create more control and power for themselves. Of course when you are a teeny tiny minority of people mind control over others might be your only option. These people are freaks but they run the show now sad to say.

    134. WATCHER Says:

      Andy – that was cryptic. And provocative. But to what end?

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