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Terror Stopped For Putting My Hand In My Pocket
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Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, July 8, 2008
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This past Sunday night I was subjected to another stark reminder of how far the UK has descended into a total police state when I was stopped on the street by "Police Community Support Officers" for putting my hand in my pocket.
After returning to London in high spirits from an excursion to see the great Neil Young play a barnstorming gig at the Hop Farm festival in Kent, I was standing at the bus stop in Trafalgar Square with my girlfriend only to suddenly have the following order barked at me by a goon in a bright yellow jacket:
"YOU. STAND OVER THERE."
"Excuse me? Are you addressing me?" I replied.
"STAND OVER THERE." the man repeated while pointing about 1 metre to his left as his female colleague stood silently staring.
"No thanks, I think I’ll stay here." I replied.
"WE CAN DO THIS THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY." He continued, attempting to assert some form of power over me in his own mind by forcing me to pointlessly move one step away from my current position, while speaking to me in a manner you or I would a dog.
After five long minutes of refusing to move until he told me why it was necessary, the PCSO told me he was stopping me because he saw me adjust my shirt and put my hand in my pocket.
That’s right, the new terror threat is people with their hands in their pockets.
For those who are unaware, a PCSO is not a real police officer, but merely a "visible and reassuring presence on the streets" employed to tackle "the menace of anti-social behaviour".
PCSOs have the same powers of arrest as any other ordinary citizen in the UK, and can arrest anyone without warrant if they know or believe they have committed an indictable offence. They can hold someone for up to thirty minutes while waiting for a police officer to reach the scene.
Essentially they are stasi-like spies and tattle tales in bright yellow jackets.
Until November of last year, when the law was changed, several forces were recruiting PCSOs under the age of 18. At this time the government also introduced a set of standard powers and duties (PDF) for all PCSOs.
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Long time readers may remember that when Alex Jones bullhorned the Houses of Parliament back in 2005, the day before protest without a permit was banned in Parliament Square, he was stopped, recorded and reported by PCSOs.
STOP AND SEARCH
Stop and search powers have proved controversial since their introduction in section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000. The government has consistently backed the powers as an important tool in the fight against terrorism.
Since then, the powers, while not leading directly to the prevention of any terrorism, have been most notably used against: Kevin Gillan and Pennie Quinto for protesting outside Europe’s biggest arms fair in London; the 82-year-old Walter Wolfgang for heckling Jack Straw at the Labour Conference; Sally Cameron for walking on a cycle-path in Dundee; the 80-year-old John Catt for being caught on CCTV passing a demonstration in Brighton; the 11-year-old Isabelle Ellis-Cockcroft for accompanying her parents to an anti-nuclear protest; and a cricketer on his way to a match over his possession of a bat.
More recently, Scotland Yard admitted that its officers have been photographing children who are stopped and searched, even after they have been found to be innocent, and keeping the pictures on a database for "intelligence-gathering purposes".
In the past we have reported on instances where police have admitted stop and search records are permanently retained.
The Home Office guide to stop and search states that "if they don’t find anything, your details will be recorded for monitoring purposes, and you’ll be allowed to go."
New Ministry of Justice figures published today revealed that police used their powers to stop nearly two million members of the public in the street and demand they account for their behaviour or actions from 2006-2007, a rise of one third.
Each one foot long stop and search form takes an estimated seven minutes to fill in, meaning that police spent the equivalent of 25 years filling in the "stop" forms last year.
The government has continued to push for greater stop and search powers for police.
Section 44 of the Terrorism Act bestows exceptional powers on the police to stop and search at random, once a particular geographical area has been designated by a chief officer as one that might be targeted by terrorists and authorised as such by the Home Secretary. The government has since extended this power to stop and search WITHOUT GIVING A REASON to include "troubled areas".
How long will it be before the entire country is designated a "troubled area"?
And so, to return to the exchange I had with the stasi this past Sunday….
After a round-the-houses exchange with the PSCO along the lines of
"Do you have anything in your pocket you shouldn’t?"
"Like what?"
"You tell me."
"No, you tell me."
he demanded identification and put in a call to his higher authorities to check I wasn’t a wanted criminal.
All the while his colleague stood watch saying "it’s just procedure, let him get on with it, if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about."
That is the crux of the problem, it is now everyday procedure in this country for fluorescent jacketed tattle tales and busy bodies to grab anyone they want on the street and order them around before putting in a hotline call to the police in the off chance they may have bagged themselves a bad guy.
All the while we are force fed the notion that we have nothing to fear from such invasions of privacy, when in actual fact our entire culture, society and freedom are under direct threat.
After emptying out my own pockets (by choice, so as to avoid having to deal with the real police) the PSCO exerted his divine privilege to let me go, but not before asking if I wanted to hang around another ten to fifteen minutes for a copy of the foot long form he was about to complete.
"No, just put me on the database with all the other innocent, law abiding people." I told him, and duly walked off, seething.
So add my name to the long list on police records along with Alex Jones’ and all the other evil people who have ever exerted any of their public rights in the UK, all those who have ever walked around minding their own business, all those who have merely put their hands in their pockets or adjusted their clothing in what was deemed by a "community minded person" to be a suspicious manner.
We are all suspects and we are all being "recorded for monitoring purposes".
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July 8th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Well FDR said we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Well not you can add federal governments right below fear.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Poor, poor Brits. What a shame to see a once proud people subjected to such tyranny. Let this be a lesson to the remaining free people, never surrender your arms. The Sun has set on merry old England. There is now no limit on what the elite will do to them, what a pity.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
At least it was a human being, this time. I’m sure it won’t be long before the voice barking at you to stand over there will be coming from a telescreen. It will be followed by the sounds of jackbooted thugs rushing toward your location, to escort you free of charge to the Ministry of Love.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I would like to no why you think it’s okay to speak to a dog like that!?
July 8th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
i drive a van round central london as part of my job and have been stopped/searched twice in recent months by armed police.My details were taken and i had to wait for full checks to be run on me.
I have to admit that the police were polite and courteous but for how long will they bother with this as they are under pressure to push this police state further along.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Sounds like the UK is closer to needing a real life V to come and help them wake up.
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
July 8th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Resistance is victory!
July 8th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Dumb cops.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Hear,hear #4! You took the words right out of my mouth!
July 8th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I just hope that J.K. Rowling is able to get the production finished on the remaining Harry Potter movies before England puts up the great iron wall. Such a shame…..such wonderful people.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO HARASS YOUR HARASSERS!
May I give a suggestion to my British brothers. I would suggest the “ghetto ethic” in regards to snitches, but I might get into trouble, so this might work much better.
Organize a anti-PSCO group that will engage in NON VIOLENT tatics against them. Some suggestions:
Take photos of these PSCO’s, find out who they are, where they live, and bull horn their homes, educate their neighbors who they are and what they do and encourage shunning, follow them around every where they go and shout “PSCO snitch!”
Give them hell back.
keep a copy of the Magna Carta with you, so when the cops show up and threatens to arrest you, shove your copy of the Magna Cata in their faces and tell them to “BUGGAOFF!”
If they do arrest you, do what the Muslim Brotherhood did when they were in a cage; yell, chant, preach as you wave your copy of the Magna Cata as the M/B waved a copy of the Qu’ran.
No violence needed, just your right to harrass and publicly shame your shamers and harrassers!
Make people who become a PSCO officer something to be ashamed of and someone to be shunned, like being known in the community and neighborhood as a child rapist.
You have the right to do so.
EXERCISE IT!
July 8th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
anyone seen V for vendetta??
kinda sounds like england is moving towards a police state…
July 8th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Bloody ell’!!!!!
July 8th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I don’t know. This is the same UK where a woman starved her 3 year old daughter to death recently. How did that happen in a total police state? Maybe a little more tyranny is in order.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Steve, you should not have given in just to avoid the real police. You did nothing wrong, they had no right to detain you. You should have stood your ground and refused to cooperate. It’s because people go along with this stuff because they don’t want to be inconvenienced and they don’t want confrontation that the government keeps escalating it. This is no different than Nazi Germany. Soon the PSCO’s will be armed with Tasers I’m sure. People must stand up to this tyranny and say “No more!”
July 8th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
I think these Gestapo fairy’s should start an exchange program with the hoods and ghettos of America. Let em walk down the street in their yellow vest unarmed yelling at people “YOU. STAND OVER THERE.” …. I’d love to watch the event with some popcorn, Though it would be a very very short exchange lol. These guys don’t prevent crime in any way at all, if im a real criminal like a drug dealer or car thief in the UK how can two of these unarmed citizens with yellow vests stop me from walking away ?? I mean really if i was a terrorist(note to SS im not lol) how would joe yellow vest prevent me from pulling a gun or knife or from just knocking him out and carrying out the attack.
These big brother citizen creeps in yellow vests are for UK social grooming and control PERIOD END. Crime will not be stopped and terrorists will not be affected or detoured by these powertriping fools.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I say that We, The People, should all start carrying little white notebooks and a pen. Everytime we see a police officerstopping anyone, detaining them, searching them… we should just calmly approach them and ask them for their names and identification.
“Papers, please officer?”
What an effective protest it would be. A viral protest.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
yeah i wont be telling the scum police anything if and when they ever stop me. If they have no idea what they’re doing it’s because they’re into it. The fact that most of the country (uk) have this “if you’ve nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” attitude shows that the population are either completely retarded by the fluoridated water attack or are happy to be slaves.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
What we should do is round up all the people who keep saying “what we should do is” and take away their beer, television, video games, and junk food. Then what we should do is make them all take showers. Then what we should do is watch V for Vendetta and get all indignant about the patriotfreedomfighterlibertyconstitution. Then what we should do is post comments on Alex Jones.
Then the NWO will die because of Jesus comming back, which is convenient because I’m kinda busy…
July 8th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Remember they came for the guns first. You fell for it. Now you’ll pay for it for the rest of your lives. There was an old saying in Britain from before we were born. “An armed man is a citizen; an unarmed man is a subject.” Now you see the difference. The Americans codified that point in the Constitution. We took it for granted like the air we breathe. Now the wind has changed direction, and we’ll have to fight the battles our forbears fought or get used to grovelling. Of course the King’s men started with the catchall, “On your knees!” as opposed to, “You. Stand over there.” Your reply was supposed to be, “Yes Lord and master.” How quickly we forget.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
It won’t be long and we’ll see these extreme tactics being employed on us here in America. They’re just a little more subtle with us because they don’t want a mass protest and revolution. It’s like the saying, “Put a frog in boiling water and he’ll jump out. Put him in cold water and gradually turn up the heat and he’ll cook to death”. Case in point, the gradual destruction of our Constitution, liberties and rights.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Sounds about right. A year and a half ago I was out with my son helping him with his paer round when he was set upon by 3 thugs in their late teens. Being a martial arts instructor I went into auto mode and dropped 1 leaving the pther 2 o do a runner. 1 was long gone but the other had the nerve to knock on someones door and ask for help. nxt thing I know I’m arrested and charged! and eventually left with a criminal record for assult! So the point being where were the cctv camera’s thats supposed to reduce crime, why didn’t the police really want to ivestigate the crime?
The answers easy. cctv camera’s arn’t for our safety! they didn’t investigate because they couldn’t be arsed to! It was just another point to add to their targets set by the government!
Targets that are supposed to reasure us that the police force are doing there job serving the community. BUT ARE THEY?
July 8th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I have been putting up with being terrorized since 1983, when the Zionist “owners” of the law school I was attending began harassing me after other Jews relayed the substance of my private phone conversations, which they began recording emanating from my residence on mycordless phone. Thy spy continually on everyone whom they think is not one of them.
July 8th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I have been putting up with being terrorized since 1983, when the Zionist “owners” of the law school I was attending began harassing me after other Jews relayed the substance of my private phone conversations, which they began recording emanating from my residence on mycordless phone. They spy continually on everyone whom they think is not one of them.
July 8th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
R.I.P… ENGLAND.
July 8th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
They picked the wrong guy to pick on – a top internet freedom fighter who comes home and writes a great piece that I intend to show to my still-sleepy fellow Brits. I’m glad you didn’t get really p’d off and get yourself arrested by uber-Stazi, Steve. We all have to choose our battles. The internet is mightier than the sword and we need you working on the Web, not mouldering in a police cell. And after a Neil Youbg show too!
July 8th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
THIS IS EASY TO FIX PEOPLE STOP LETTING THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE OF THEM THAT YOU SEE UNTILL YOU SEE NO MORE.THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES THE COPS DON’T EVEN GO TO BECAUSE OF THIS REASON WHY IS THIS ANY DIFFERANT? I’LL TELL YOU WHY CAUSE YOUR A PUSSY.
July 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
befor world war II the germans had the chidren turn in there parents if they had guns or other things that they felt where a threat, I belive that they would pay them. The Jews sat and let this same thing happen to them. Look out people you may have to refeuse to let them have their way with you.
July 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I had a “rent a cop” try to search my truck @ work. She said I need you yo open up your hood and your glove box so I can search your vehicle. I started laughing. ( Note I work @ an LNG terminal ) I said not with out state police and a warrant. My Wife was dropping me off. And the event occured outside the security zone. I grabbed my bags and got on my bike, rode up the the check point and showed her my bags. She didn’t even look. It’s my right not to consent to a search. Also I didn’t want her freaking out that I travel with a loaded .45. I get into work tell the boss about what happen and about an hour later he gives me an article out of the Houma Today paper. The headline is: “Its OK to keep your gun locked in your car in your workplace parking lot, House says.” I don’t have a web link but the article was published on 6/20/2008, and the bill is Louisiana Senate Bill 51
July 8th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I have some questions.
What was the name of this sub-cop?
What was his badge number?
Why did you not collect your form so you could post it on the Internet redacted?
These people have to be publicly shamed; its pointless to compliain like this if you will not even do the minimum to punish these scumbags, like expose their names and badge numbers.
Typical British; complain like bitches but refuse to do even the bare minimum to put a stop to it all. We respect you Paul, and admire your hard work on this site, but you should know how to deal with the police, just like the people in Truth Rising do; stand up for yourself, or STFU about it!
July 8th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
WHY DOES THIS STORY SEEM COMPLETELY CONTRIVED? I’D BET THIS NEVER EVEN HAPPENED, TOTALLY MADE UP AS THE REPORTING HERE SEEMS TO BE MORE AND MORE DESPERATE.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
I completely agree. They’re reaching for anything they can grab. But hey, if the NWO can make stuff up, I guess the tactic is good enough for Jones and the Watson brothers. Too bad it really scrapes the credibility layer from this website.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
i’d tell them to take a flying leap off a bridge, i’m not moving.
walk off and if detained by a civi spy, i’d file kidnaping charges.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
The pen and internet is NOT mighter then the sword.
You can shout, protest, file paperwork and sue all you want they will keep it up.
It will NOT stop till they are shot, stabbed, blown up, run over, clubbed so they can no longer infringe upon a free people.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
“TheLasersShadow.com Says:July 8th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
… if im a real criminal like a drug dealer or car thief in the UK how can two of these unarmed citizens with yellow vests stop me from walking away ?? I mean really if i was a terrorist(note to SS im not lol) how would joe yellow vest prevent me from pulling a gun or knife or from just knocking him out and carrying out the attack.”
Well then some more insight from Officer Jack Boot here then…
They would love that to happen, a bunch of dead PCSOs would be the perfect reason to arm the PCSO’s
and empower them much further… only I think the trouble with the PCSOs is they know how to pick their
fights and wouldn’t dare approach a truly dangerous individual and instead look the other way and
go hassle a little 8 year old girl on her bike,
July 8th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
At least I’m not the only one who has noticed the stories on Infowars getting more sensationalistic than even the NY Post. The story about the Tryannical Seat Belt Law had me in stitches. And now this gem of a turd. Yep, when the going gets tough, the tough sell out, ask for money, then print this crap. Sorry Watson, but the readers are apparently seeing right through this BS story. It was only a matter of time, but you finally screwed up big time.
Journalistic credibility is hard to come by, but very easy to lose.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Some day I would love to meet Alex Jones, a Patriot.
In our city Sheboygan, Wisconsin we recently had a police officer representing the department state publicly on a local radio station that if they (the police) receive a call concerning someone carrying a gun and they respond to that call they will charge the person carrying with disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace. This will be done even if the citizen is carrying legally. This did not make me mad, it pissed me off. I went straight to the next Common Council meeting at city hall and let the cops have it with both barrels. My father did not risk his life along with many others to now have law enforcement trample all over our Second Amendment rights I stated. I further asked and then demanded a public retraction from the Police which they ignored. From that point on I carried my gun on me daily and sure enough, some “ignorant of the law” woman called the police. Three squads pulled me over on my scooter and suggested I carry a cell phone instead. My reply was “Why, so I can call you and let you know I,m dead”? I was carrying legally and they had to let me go or face a lawsuit. Since then, our Second Amendment right to bear arms has been reaffirmed. What next? Challenge local ordinances which are more stringent than state statutes and therefore unenforceable.
Grow a couple and get involved or we will end up like the poor souls in England.
Jeff Schukow Founder- Community Neighborhood Watch Minutemen
July 8th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
If you must speak with them just speak a completely different language. The PCSOs will get frustrated and move on. This technique has worked flawlessly for me in many instances. I just act like I’m on holidays, pretend to have no idea what they are saying to me and spout some jibber jabber. Problem solved!
July 8th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Damn, no more pocket pool.
July 8th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Nazi’s!
July 8th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
LET THEM TRY THAT s--- ON ME..JUST ONCE…I DARE THEM!
July 8th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I agree with the quasi-police officers that Steve had no right to put his hands in his pocket. Why conceal your hands if you don’t have anything to hide? That is a clear example of what a terrorist might do. Next time don’t conceal your hands because we need order and transparency in our public streets. The western world is threatened by Al Qeada and, “you are either with us or with the terrorists,” clearly if you hide your hands you are supporting bin laden.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Pigs must be the dumbist sonsofbitches for taking their own rights away how dumb can you be tell your superiors go f thereselves the spineless bastards are afraid to stand up to their criminal asshole servants all police need fired now we will take care of ourselves.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Can’t believe all the sheeple who bought into this crap story. Makes me wonder how many other stories Watson just made up. What’s the matter, slow news day in the UK??
Infowarriors should be more keen to this type of nonsense.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
HAHAHA
Reported right here on Infowars: London cops cracking down on knife crime.
Then you have Steve Watson bitching and moaning when the cops are doing their jobs. London has an astronomical crime rate, yet when the police try *anything* to curb it, the people complain. If I were the cops, I’d just turn a blind eye, grab another doughnut and let the citizens swim in their own suspool of a city. A thankless job being less & less appreciated every day. That is, until the complainer becomes a victim and their tune changes very quickly.
What did you do Watson, go out and try to look suspicious so you could get a story, walking around with one hand in your coat pocket? Try walking into a bank like that and not attract attention.
Whoever the cop was (and I dont believe for one moment you didnt make note of that, since you have done so with good detail in the past), if this encounter even took place – he did a good job by being vigilant in a city that desperately needs that kind of policework. However, i’m not convinced this story has a shred of truth to it. Watson, you owe the readers an apology!
July 8th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
give the citizens their guns back, then this will all work itself out. i’m CERTAIN of it. we’ve got creepy propaganda posters, folks in matching reflective vests with little hats, rogue police and the only people set to protect themselves or others in a pinch are criminals. it seems it’s time for a major overhaul of the london scene, before that cancer spreads too far. pllleeeeeeeeeease stamp out that kind of idiocy.
July 8th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
To “The Dude”
Do you honestly believe that Watson made all of this up and that this stuff doesn’t happen here AND there everyday, in the name of fighting the terrorists?!?! (who don’t exist anywho) If so, wake up my brother, crawl up the basement stairs, tell mom you will be home by dinner and go drive around the block. They are terrorists everywhere now and we are paying all of thier salaries with our tax dollars.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Incredible…
I’m speechless.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Ignore the propagandists below telling you this story is no good, and train yourself to spot responses like xorgasm and thedude, they are just trying to lead you astray. And once you know how to spot comments like this they stick out like a sore thumb…
July 8th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
“…. and all the king’s horses and all the king’s men….”
July 8th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
It’s a fact that mayor Boris wants to police London like Bloomberg does in New York. Think you did the right thing Steve – pick and choose your battles the same tactics as the pcso use. (if there was a group of 10 blokes with you, they would have left you alone and picked on an easier target)
July 9th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Odd how both countries get attacked and suddenly both countries have all kinds of new laws that support an almost 1984 police style state!
Thee terrorist are not attacking us right now cause they don’t even have to anymore we ourselves are doing a great job of attacking our own.
Its like McCarthyism all over again! They see a terror suspect behinddn every tree and under every rock and in everyone’s sock drawer!
I guess not one is a fan of history anymore since we seems to be repeating it. Talk about the NEW Nazi Germany state!
July 9th, 2008 at 2:24 am
England is the NWO capital 4,5 million CCTV and even more crooked cops
July 9th, 2008 at 3:13 am
I would have exploded in the face of this guy. The same thing happened to me in Geneva, Switzerland at a Fan zone during the Euro Cup. People were even being pulled out of the fan zone because they were carrying a flag…
This is getting ridiculous.
July 9th, 2008 at 3:34 am
Brits are f---en sissies ya know what I am sayin. When the pigs get called down to our street they s--- they pants cuz they know they either comin out in a strecther or a bodybag, there choice. Comeon whitey brits, gather youre gatz, nives, chainsaws, what eva the f--- ya white folks use, saw blades, idk, and kill the f---en pigs. Then they quit clowning on ya cuz they know wutz up. You need to get dem coppers to s--- they selves when they get a call.
July 9th, 2008 at 3:36 am
wtf my comments not showen up, fool. This infowarz be trippin, i just wanna post comments. I hate dat nwo as much as you guys, come on dont be trippin, i want to post some s--- cuz we in this together. Da hood, da farm, da burbs, we all want this nwo to die.
July 9th, 2008 at 3:40 am
I was a UK cop until quite recently retiring. I remember when all the recent ‘terrorism laws’ came out we were stunned at how easy it made it to stop and search the public. No longer was there a requirement for us to have a good and demonstrable reason like before.
It was clear the new laws were meant for use against terrorism, that’s why they’re called terrorism laws right? But our bosses said we could use these laws as a fallback whenever we would otherwise have difficulties stopping and searching people using the ‘regular’ laws. In other words, f--- the fact these new laws were aimed at terrorists, we could and WERE TO use these new terrorism laws GENERALLY should the need arise.
That is how police states start. Britain is a police state, it is just a case of how bad a police state develops as the months pass by. We are done for. I hate my country and my passive countrymen who only have ears for news about football. Here, we value a six-pack of cheap beer and a big television over learning about the persistent erosion of our rights. Only America has a chance of avoiding this.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:14 am
you brits will gobble this s--- right up …and you f---in aussies will be actually make it happen to you by tomorrow just by thinking about it, willing it into existence.
sad, so sad.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:39 am
Didn’t ask the goons name, no badge number, no copy of any incident report. Sorry, but all of us know the Watsons wouldn’t let something even as simple as this slide by without something to show for it. I’m in agreement with some of the previous posters in thinking this article with it’s lack of facts and needlessly long unrelated diatribe is bogus to the core.
Shocking how fellow Infowarriors here are so quick to be skeptical of everything in the media, yet so easily digest anything printed on this website, even a blatant BS article like this. It’s like Jones & Co. has absolutely nothing to worry about with this lot, most of you will eat right out their hands!
July 9th, 2008 at 4:59 am
We English LOVE authority, we lick it up.
I worked for a large company which was itself owned by an American corporation. I feel I know what it might have been like in America before the Boston tea party. The American corporation would impose all sorts of daft rules on us that made doing the job and getting the systems onto the trucks difficult. Most peoples biggest protest was to stack things on top of cupboards, illegal in California due to earthquakes.
However I was popular because as a contractor I simply ignored or did the opposite of anything corporate. I could get things done and teamed up with other anti-corporate types in the company. We did a project for 10k that corporate were wringing their hands over spending 10 million, ours works and theirs was crap. I got head hunted to California, I don’t think they understood how I got things done :->
Anyway, when I returned to the UK a new manager who loved all things corporate was appointed and we got bigger and bigger budgets and got less and less done. This manager insisted on managing me, previous ones had simply signed my invoice. The manager climbed the corporate ladder by slaughtering lesser managers and I left.
So whilst we secretly admire people who get things done, we would rather suck up to authority to get ahead in life.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:28 am
soon tea time could be a terrorist threat…………so I´ll have a vino tinto……..
July 9th, 2008 at 5:31 am
??? what ??? is ??? being ??? done ??? to ??? stop ??? any ??? of ??? this ???
!!! zilch !!! articles !!! more articles !!! zilch !!!
f--- ALL!!!
July 9th, 2008 at 6:13 am
michael, tea time was terror back in the revolutionary war. Nothing changes because like america, england has its fascists and haters that pretend to be good just to get in, then they shed the snake skin once in power and start ruining the populace with their lack of faith. Nazis, fascists, tyrants and religious control freaks need a lesson from reality.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Michael,
Good on ya…Somebody else with the bettter sense not to still be living in that miserable 1984 taxed slave hole they did once call Great Britain…Mines a cruzcampo, cheers and bollox to the soon to fall elite….theres only one elite and its a friggin lotus..
July 9th, 2008 at 7:09 am
YOU KNOW…………THERE ARE SOOO MANY MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM………HOW ARE THEY WINNING????
July 9th, 2008 at 7:11 am
YOU KNOW…………THERE ARE SOOO MANY MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM………HOW ARE THEY WINNING???? HOW CAN YOU “SUPPOSEDLY” FIGHT FOR FREEDOM IN IRAQ WHILE YOU ARE ACUALLY REMOVING FREEDOM???
I AM CONFUSED AND ANGRY
July 9th, 2008 at 7:34 am
hi guys, yea a few months back after work i was walking home through piccadilly circus when i heard an ‘Oi!’, having lived in london my whole life i knew to keep on walking because it was probably someone i didn’t want to turn round and chat to!…i carried on walking and heard another ‘Oi!’. To my surprise when i turned round it was a trusty pair of ‘community officers’, they asked ‘why didn’t you turn round when i called after you?’ ?!?!? they thought they smelt me smoking a joint, but it was a roll up and i offered to have my bag searched but they refused because they could smell the smoke on my breath. so…moral of the story, if someone yells at you ‘oi!’, it’s probably best to do as they say, because it’ll probably be a cop
July 9th, 2008 at 7:41 am
i live in the uk and man ,its gonna get worse ,these nazi degenerate beings have no power ,even the real bobys in the uk hate them they are a waste of tax payers money, also brits wake up our gov is gonna employ soon crims to be pcso’s !! in my town i’ve seen these psco nazis victimizing young children . also evn at my kids ,whn playing in a outside pitch! pcso glaring at me ,trying to start a situation why u may ask !! to make money for the gov !! its just been news that the council ie gov have banned alchohol at a pop concert !! its been peaceful every year . reason well they want you to spend your hard earned cash at these beer companies tents paying 4.00 a pint … this sucks ..
anyone that goes to these tents and pays these amounts just feed the fat cat councilers and the gov….also ya must have more dosh then sence..
lets fight the new world order………………………………………..
July 9th, 2008 at 8:55 am
The Great War is coming.
The people vs. the government.
Billions will died…………
July 9th, 2008 at 9:00 am
PCSO’s have no right to detain.
You should have asked “AM I UNDER ARREST?” – If their answer was no then ask “AM I FREE TO GO?” If they answer no then ask again “AM I UNDER ARREST?”
Simply state “IF I AM NOT UNDER ARREST THEN I AM FREE TO GO AND I AM GOING NOW”.
Know your law as they often make it up as they go!
July 9th, 2008 at 9:15 am
This is probably a lie, no great war is coming, please, leave your houses and engage in something useful you unemployed denziens rather than sitting at home going “oh no, the worlds going to end, what a perfect excuse for me to avoid employment”.
Seriously, bums, get your f---ing lifes together.
July 9th, 2008 at 9:54 am
PS I should point out that PSCO’s are seen as a walking joke here in the UK!! They have no respect from the public nor the police & are seen as merely a token response to police shortages as they earn half what a trained police officer does. They have the same powers as a traffic warden & earn about as much too. It’s a job for tossers who were bullied at school & have no qualifications/skills for a job on the open market.
Disregard them as they’ll not be here for long – once PM Brown’s finally ousted from office they’ll be reallocated jobs as traffic wardens or lollypop men!!