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Texas Doctor Claims Swine Flu Cases Far Worse Than Reported
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Dr. Marcus Gitterle, an emergency medicine physician based out of New Braunfels, Texas, sent out an internal alert which contains several stunning claims about swine flu that, if true, officials have presumably sought to keep from the public.
Dr. Marcus Gitterle, an emergency medicine physician based out of New Braunfels, Texas, sent out an e mail alert to his patients which contains several stunning claims about swine flu that, if true, officials have presumably sought to keep from the public.
“After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County and Hays County, (name removed) suggested I send an update to my patients in the area, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is different from what you are hearing in the media,” writes Gitterle.
The doctor claims that the actual number of confirmed cases of swine flu is 10 to 25 times worse than has been reported, and that people are not recovering easily, as has been claimed, but that many Americans are in fact seriously ill.
“The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each “confirmed” case right now,” claims Gitterle.
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“This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old in Houston is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life,” he writes.
Gitterle’s mention of a “23 month old in Houston” obviously refers to the Mexican toddler who died on Monday night and was announced as the first U.S. fatality on Tuesday morning.
Quick access to drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza, as well as ventilators, is preventing fatalities on the scale of Mexico, but Gitterle warns that “within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed”.
Gitterle warns, “ER’s south of here are becoming overwhelmed — and I mean that — already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.”
The doctor states that the severity of the situation has already crossed the threshold of the definition of a WHO phase 6 pandemic. “This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory,” he writes.
Gitterle claims that President Obama is being advised to declare a national emergency and that this could happen within the next 48 hours.
“This may not happen, but if it doesn’t, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days minimum,” writes the doctor.
Gitterle advises people to avoid all public gatherings, especially those held indoors, to avoid going to their ER if they feel ill, and to take the nutritional supplements N-Acetyl-Cysteine and Oscillococinum. He recommends Relenza as a more powerful drug than Tamiflu but warns that supplies of both drugs are running out fast.
The doctor states that swine flu is infectious for about two days prior to symptom onset and that the virus can spread for more than seven days after symptom onset. The symptoms are the same as normal flu, although it has been discovered that swine flu causes a distinctive “hoarseness” in many victims.
“Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no “herd immunity,” so the “attack rate” is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatic. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The “clinical attack rate” estimation from CDC and WHO may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this to those outside of the medical fields,” he writes.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
HMMMM local media is stating that “Concern maybe extreme as only 12 or so deaths are confirmed caused by the swine! FEAR THE FEAR!!! This Texas doctor is stating total opposite and supports the WHO move to level 5. PEOPLE are lying the question is WHO?????
Debunker Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:18 am
This fear is just a way to sell more Tamiflu and Relenza. Don’t listen to the hype. Watson, you are a hack and we know who you and Alex work for (Rome). All you guys are traitors and you deserve a traitor’s death.
More people are finding out the truth. If I were you, I’d make an effort to go incognito.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Where the heck is the proof that the Catholics run everything? All I ever see are vague references to totally ambiguous symbols. Meanwhile, I can make an airtight defense of Catholic worship practices via the writings of the early Church Fathers (Clement, Irenaeus, and other ante-nicene fathers), who worshiped in a Eucharistic, Sacramental, and Ecclesiastical way, and used Tradition passed down by Jesus to determine which Gospels and letters were inspired, which no one ever dares to address.
Danomatic Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Addressed at aomin.org. See also droakley1689 on youtube.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Danomatic,
Unless you give me primary sources or at least tell me the nature of the video and perhaps a reiteration of the argument in your own words, I’m not interested.
Crypto-creeps must go Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Cui bono?
http://judicial-inc.biz/94so_w.....ndemic.htm
Debunker Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Where is the proof that the bankers run everything? It’s that simple. The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Queen of England, et al are all members of the SzMOM (remove z). They are subservient to the church and have pledged an oath to the empire.
With regard to the church practices, it is ecumenism. Isis, Osiris, Mithra, et al worship and idolatry.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Debunker,
Pure hearsay, where is your evidence and sources? My sourced argument that affirms Catholic worship practices undercuts any potential political corruption of the Church (all of which I do not deny).
Crypto-creeps must go Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Debonkers,
Next time you see a vatican offical running the media, running Wall St and the US government- let us know- with names and facts. Those positions are all taken by the jews, not the catholics. do your demographics or shut up.
love-stick Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I think the proof is right before your eyes, however control the money controls the world, since the world revolves around money, it’s seems pretty simple to figure out. Rest assured the starving people around the world don’t have much control.
David Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
The Proof that bankers run everything is in history, in fact there was a 1933 Movie called “The House a Rothschild” which shows Mayer Rothschild buying up the Entire british economy, which in the movie was simply portrayed as “Lucky” which was bullshit..
Essentially, what happened was he had news of Napoleon being defeated 20 hours before the general public, and he travelled to London to spread a rumor on the trading floor that Napoleon was Victorious, while everyone sold their stock, he bought, and in the end he owned the British Economy, for next to nothing, once the stocks shot back up..
it’s also interesting to note that Napoleon was poisoned, I aint going to beat around the bush, I believe Rothschild or one of his minions poisoned him to kill him, to control the outcome, he didn’t want to say for sure that Napoleon was victorious, unless he knew he was dead, and that it wouldn’t backfire on him.
I’m not sure why this is so hard to believe for people, I would do it to, I might scam the London stock exchange, so if I might, being billions could be made, what’s to same they didn’t get the idea to do it?
and what’s to say they didn’t come to America to start Central Banks, and lend money to the Government, which is what they did, The Federal Reserve, is just a fancy name, to make people think it’s Federal.
Is “Federal” Express (Federal)? I don’t think so.
One way to know for sure if they borrow, is to find out if they pay interest, why would they pay interest, if they printed the money themselves? doesn’t make sense does it?
It’s like taking money away from yourself…no one with half a brain cell would do it. “I’m just going to charge interest to myself, so I lose money…”
bla Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:49 am
The Catholic church has repeatedly called for a New World Order and backed people like Hitler, Mussolini, etc. The Jesuits have been a force of evil since the 1530s and Alex doesn’t talk about them… there’s a clip on YouTube of Alex calling America “The New Rome” and stating he won’t expose the Jesuits for fear of being exposed himself… Alex does more good than harm, though. Bitching about his lack of going after the religious aspects pulling the strings of the New World Order from the shadows are irrelevant; if we can’t even beat it on the Bankster level, there’s no way we can stop it on a higher level…
MmmmHmmmmm Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:11 am
And the clock says “cuckoo.”
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:14 am
bla,
Concerning Alex, link me to this clip.
Any Pope’s mention of a new world order runs contrary to their actions. I am a bit disturbed when I saw the few times it did happen, but their actions don’t back the language (as it does for people like Kissinger and Rockefeller).
Whether or not the Jesuits have any political control and use it for evil, this does not have any impact on my argument that Catholic worship practices are legitimate. To date, no one has considered my arguments on the early Church Fathers, and repeatedly dance around it with less relevant side issues.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Also, there’s no evidence the Church backed any of those people. The only criticism that has ever had any weight was the Pope’s silence on Hitler, but this can be countered with the Pope’s contingency plan for the Papacy in case the Nazis ever came for him.
bla Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1XHmnG7aPE
“the new rome”
ggg Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
What nonsense.
This is who all the accusations against Jones are coming from:
http://zionistchampions.com/ph.....expert.htm
Consider the source!!! He’s been exposed himself!
Jones has exposed more of the NWO plan than anyone else. Prove that wrong!
hang 'em high Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Bla: your Youtube video is bogus. It is sound segments of the show chopped and hacked into something else. I even heard suspiscious things during the playback. The music is trying to cover it up. The pictures imply a bunch of garbage disinfo. I want to see a video with his lips at least spouting these words…One day it’s “his wife is a Jew, that’s why he won’t touch the subject”, now he’s covering up for the Catholics. Please, this bullshit is childish to argue about.
Ann Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Bla,
The Church did not back Hitler. Fact… Hitler told Mussolini that he was going to “Stamp out the catholic church as if it were a toad”, after he was through with the jews. Mussolini advised Hitler against it saying that many have tried but the Church is too powerful. 100,000 Catholics perished during the holocaust and the Italian Pope is credited for saving approx 700,000 jews (kept in hiding). The pope was not outspoken enough during the holocaust in many opinions, but documents have shown it was because he knew he could’ve made the situation much worse by speaking out. Hitler would have slaughtered even more just to spite him, those were his feelings.
Thom in Tejas Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I don’t know if this proves anything but the essay is intriguing to say the least.
do a web search for The Ultimate Delusion by Stephen Ames
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Thom in Tejas,
I don’t want to get knee deep in anything unless I know the sources are good. Unless I have more time I cannot look into it. Care to give a run down of it?
notasheeple Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Ditch the church and actually read your bible. All the answers are in there. It says to come out of her(her being the church) How can you support a religion that is full of pagan rituals and is lead by a king that has people bow down and kiss his hand. The pope claims to forgive but that is not his job. They have commited genocide on christians and commited pedophilia on the little children. Anyways Colbert is freakin funny he says the first symptom of swine flu is that you taste like bacon. So if you think someone has it just give em a good lick to find out. LMAO and the pig flu feeds on fear. So starve it out.LOL
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:31 am
notasheeple,
I do read the Bible, but I don’t think that the Bible alone is enough. In fact, the Bible never says to only read the Bible. I’m positing elements that are not contradictory and are in fact complimentary to the Bible by arguing for the early Church Fathers and the Catholic Sacraments. All of your symbology claims are ambiguous (I’ve looked into them long ago) and political corruption is irrelevant to worship practices (all churches have it).
I'm the pope Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
The catholic church is nothing but a bunch of pagan babylonian TRASH!!! They are not the original Christians! Read your bible man and wake up! Look at the Pagan rituals and the satanist illuminati signs! People are being lied to and I am sick of it. Read the book of Acts….or any other book of the Bible!!!
Ben Moreno Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 11:06 am
I once started to try to read the whole bible and when I started reading Genesis, and it said things such as, “God said, let there be light and there was light. Then it he saw that it was good and he said…”
Right off the bat I could tell it was pretty much a fairy tale. So I skipped ahead and read different parts. Although I don’t believe in “God” as the bible describes, I do not dismiss the bible for the many good life lesson stories and the “character” of Jesus is awesome.
Anyway, I don’t think the bible has the answers. I think science is the best method to use route to find the truth.
ForWhomTheBellTolls Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Catholic church lost the apostolic succession when they separated from the living body of the Christ which is, as of that moment, eastern orthodox church. It is known as the great schism and it happened in 1054 AD. Catholic church also lost the holy spirit on that day. Pope is the head of the catholic church and in eastern orthodox church it is our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
Awake Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
The “living body of Christ” is not any denomination – it is an INVISIBLE spiritual body of true believers who have been “born of the Spirit.” It is comprised of all who are saved – eastern orthodox has nothing to do with it.
Awake Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
ForWhomTheBellTolls:
It is a common response to anyone who questions the RCC or eastern orth. that we don’t know what your religion teaches. Since many of us have RCC backgrounds, we certainly DO know what you teach, although we came to a point of realizing the errors and searching for ourselves.
You’ve been taught that Jesus is unreachable and so you must pray to saints to make intercession for you. This is a tragic lie that is opposite of what scripture teaches. Jesus came so that you would know Him personally and there is no other mediator between man and God:
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
(1 Timothy 2:5 NASB)
Ask yourself this question: Can your saints, even Mary, hear the prayers of millions of people simultaneously? If so, they would have to be omnipotent and only GOD is omnipotent. Jesus can hear your prayers because He is God. He is the High Priest making intercession for you – no one else:
The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing, but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
(Hebrews 7:23-25 NASB)
And, He is not on the cross any longer like the RCC portrays – He is risen!
Check it out, my friend. Seek the real truth. You CAN have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
DoubtingThomas420 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Organized religion is for the weak-minded. Learn to think for yourself. I’d like to believe there’s some sort of afterlife and that an omnipotent and omnipresent force of some kind is driving the universe to a specific purpose, but the truth is after reviewing all the facts and evidence available to me I’ve come to my own personal conclusion that neither I or any other human will ever truly know the answers to “where did we come from? why are we here? what happens after I die? where did time start and when does it end? etc.” And believe it or not the admission of not-knowing is more personally liberating that the “certainty” that the Church sells. Religion is just another method of psychological control. Sure, most religious people might mean well and there are certainly many great moral teachings and life lessons in religion, but where you get into trouble is blind faith, fundamentalism and dogma. Mix nationalism, politics, religion, and the worship of money all together and you get America. Free yourself from the mental tyranny of religion. Take the moral teachings, kick the dogma.
londoner Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
After reading the Bible, I found out that Catholic Church is the whore mentioned on Revelations and the pope is the false prophet. What means the pope will spend his eternity besides Satan in the hell. So Christianity in not a label, it is a way of life. Doesn’t matter if you attend a specific church, the real issue is our personal relationship to Jesus Christ as our Savior. Not any church will take you to haven, only Jesus.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
ForWhomTheBellTolls,
I don’t know much about the Catholic/Orthodox schism (I’ll have to look into it), but regardless, how do you know it isn’t the other way around?
Rocky Horror Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
mikey the catholic church is a corrupt anti Christian institution.
they pray to idols, say they have the power to forgive sin.
changed the sabbath.
have you worshiping saints instead of God.
constantine made the church switch to SUNday worship…
http://www.thetrumpet.com/inde.....4468.114.0
ForWhomTheBellTolls Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Rocky,
I know that you are a truth seeker and I seriously believe that your intentions are good but you shouldn’t speak about something you really don’t know. We pray to our saints because our lord listens to the prayers of our saints who are praying for us all the time because we are drowning in sin. Lord will not hear prayers for sinners like us. I know that this discussion will lead nowhere but just bear in mind that the only true church of Christ (the eastern orthodox church) is praying to the saints so that should spark some questions for you.
ggg Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
IDOL WORSHIP.
Find some truth here:
http://www.amazon.com/Jehovah-.....411651472/
ForWhomTheBellTolls:
What happened to “have no god before me”?
Your saints are cartoon characters. Pray to Mickey Mouse next time.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
You IDIOTS think you know how PRAYERS ARE TRANSMITTED TO GOD??? HA HA HA!!!! WACKOS!!! go read your Censored “words of god” and believe everything. DUMB!!!!!!!, I don;’t need your stupid religions to be in touch with god
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Rocky Horror,
You completely side stepped my foundational argument for the Sacraments with more side issues (See Saints Irenaeus, Ignatius, and Clement), which is typical of this crowd. Also, the Sabbath thing you’re on about… completely unfounded: http://www.kencollins.com/question-42.htm
And no Catholic worships or prays TO saints, we merely ask for their intercession. These are such ridiculous straw man versions of Catholicism, and I’m so sick of even addressing them. Everyone claims to be truth seekers, but has been so brainwashed and indoctrinated against the Catholic Church.
Anthony Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Your an idiot “Rock Horror.” You’ve swallowed the typical Protestant lies hook, line, and sinker.
You say: “Contantine made the church switch to sunday worship.”
Baloney, the Apostles changed the day of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday because that was the day of Christ’s Ressurection. It’s called sacred TRADITION, something Protestants, along with every heretic of every age, have rejected, since it condemns their innovations. Traditions are those teachings given to the Apostles by Our Lord by WORD, and passed down by their lawful successors in the Church.
“Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the TRADITIONS, which you have learned, whether by WORD or by our epistle.” 2 Thess. 2, xiv
The Apostles did not write everything down. The Protestant doctrine of taking scripture as their sole rule of faith would’ve been impossible during the first three centuries of the Christian religion, since the book of the Bible was not yet put together by the Catholic Church. Protestants are so dumb they can’t even say by what authority they believe the Bible is the Word of God. For example, how do you know which books are inspired and which are not? By what authority do you accept the books of the Bible as the Word of God? They can’t answer since they have no authority, they have no “church,” they received the Bible from the Catholic Church. The Apostles preached by WORD, not by saying “here take this bible and self-interpret it according to your own liking.” Printing wasn’t even possible until centuries later, so Bibles were rare. How, then, was it possible, for each man to have his own Bible and follow it as his sole rule of faith? It wasn’t!
The historical testimonies of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church bear witness to the fact that these traditions were believed at all times during the Church’s 2000 year history. For instance, you, without any proof, say Church worship was switched to Sunday by Constantine (274-337). This is an outright lie. From the Catholic Encyclopedia (1910):
“Sunday was the first day of the week according to the Jewish method of reckoning, but for Christians it began to take the place of the Jewish Sabbath in Apostolic times as the day set apart for the public and solemn worship of God. The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord’s day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: “On the Lord’s Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure”. St. Ignatius (Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as “no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also Our Life rose again”. In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: “Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead”.
St. Justin is the first Christian writer to call the day Sunday (I Apol., lxvii) in the celebrated passage in which he describes the worship offered by the early Christians on that day to God. The fact that they met together and offered public worship on Sunday necessitated a certain rest from work on that day. However, Tertullian (202) is the first writer who expressly mentions the Sunday rest: “We, however (just as tradition has taught us), on the day of the Lord’s Resurrection ought to guard not only against kneeling, but every posture and office of solicitude, deferring even our businesses lest we give any place to the devil” (”De orat.”, xxiii; cf. “Ad nation.”, I, xiii; “Apolog.”, xvi).”
All these holy men lived before Constantine, so it is proof that you and your Protestant heretical bigots are liars. We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ’s Church, which have always been believed. You, on the other hand, follow the teachings of a man who came 1500 years after Christ and developed an entirely new doctrine (which Luther admitted to receiving from the Devil). Thanks to the influence of Protestantism, we have witnessed the greatest degeneration of the human race in history.
More later…
downwa Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
notasheeple:I think we as Christians need to take ownership of the errors that have been introduced over the years, as well as the attitudes that show how we’ve failed to live up to Jesus’ desire that “they all may be one” (John 17:21) Jesus wants us to be one in Spirit and in Truth. God’s Word is truth (vs. 17). So you are right that we need to unite on the Bible, but I think it would be more helpful to talk of how “we as Christians” have strayed from the Bible, rather than pointing fingers at someone else. Take a look at how Daniel took responsibility for the sins of his people, even though he was not personally responsible (Daniel 9:5).
Mike:Thank you for bringing the discussion to the spiritual issue, which is more important than who is or is not corrupt. While technically it is true that “the Bible never says to only read the Bible”, the Bible does say that “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20). While in context that is talking about wizards, the principle applies. Scripture is not determined valid by church councils, but by its agreement with the previous testimony given by God, going all the way back to the “law” given by God to Moses (when it was obvious it was given by God: the people heard the voice of God).
If we argue for the Church Fathers, we must acknowledge they sometimes contradict each other, as well as the Bible. We will not be able to come to harmony of belief unless we agree to base our belief on the Bible and the Bible alone, or we decide to discard the Bible where it differs from the fathers. Personally, I choose the former.
ForWhomTheBellTolls:While you are correct that the great schism was a downward step (accepting the authority of a man rather than God), the church as a whole had already accepted many errors prior to that time. The very idea of “apostolic succession” itself is not Biblical. Authority in the early church derived from agreement with the existing teaching, not from who gave the teaching. Paul wrote, “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)
Regarding prayers of the saints, there are a number of assumptions behind it which are unscriptural:
1. The idea that anyone but Jesus can pray to God for us: As already mentioned, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5)
2. The idea that God needs to be persuaded to save us: “For the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.” (John 16:27)
3. The idea that God won’t listen to us sinners: “My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:” (1 John 2:1)
(See also Luke 18:13, the story of the publican: vs. 14 tells us that he went home justified before God).
4. The idea that the saints themselves can hear our prayers. First, most of the saints appear to be “sleeping” until the resurrection, according to the Bible. Acts 2:34 lets us know that David (one of the saints) is not ascended into the heavens. Psalms 115:17 tells us that the dead (saints implied) don’t praise God. The saints are raised at the “last day” (John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; and John 11:24.
Confusion arises because there are some exceptions. Moses, Elijah (Matt. 17; Luke 9) and Enoch (Gen 5:24) are known to already be with God. Elijah was taken without seeing death (2 Kings 2:11) as the living righteous will be at the return of Jesus. Moses was resurrected (Jude 9) as the sleeping saints will be at the return of Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Cor 15:52-read whole chapter).
However, there is a danger in praying to saints, because there is a living devil who is out to deceive and make appear the forms of our loved ones who have died. All the warnings against witchcraft and sorcery (communication with the dead) are because God is trying to protect us from contacting evil spirits.
You can learn more about these issues here: http://www.truthaboutdeath.com/
londoner Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
If ForWhomTheBellTolls had read the Bible would know that even Paul said in his letters that he was the worst sinner at all. So how could he as a self called sinner could after death pray for me? Even after redemption no Christian is already raised from death, read the Bible and you will find this truth out. Don’t take seriously what churches say as their interests are not on your soul but in your pocket. Needless to say that if Vatican was worried about poverty, the pope will sell off its treasures and trillions of dollars could save millions of starving people worldwide.
Mike Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 9:38 am
Downwa,
I disagree that the early Church Fathers are at all untrustworthy in their Tradition, or that it is somehow a lesser guide than the Old Testament (Isaiah). The early Church Tradition would have to be the guide because what they were trying to determine the truth about was what Jesus actually said and did. The best way to figure this out would be to judge any current writings against the Tradition that was currently in practice, which came directly from the original Apostles who knew Jesus. Using Isaiah would be a fine supplemental source as far as demonstrating Jewish prophecy that foresaw Jesus, but there’s still the matter of what Jesus actually said and did. So the Bible alone cannot be our only source.
Also, I have not seen any early Church Father contradict the Bible. Do you have specific instances?
Anthony,
You rock.
Crypto-creeps must go Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Any real xtian prays to God, not human beings. that is idolatry, doesnt matter if man has designated them ’saints’. Jesus said no one can come to the father but through HIM and HIM only. this saint worship is a product of the paganist’s infiltration of the catholic church centuries ago. Its like praying to one of the ancient patron deities of the sea, moon, sun etc. pure blashphemy.
as far as who calls the shots? it aint Rome, Rome answers to the zionists, and they zio-swine have controlled the Vatican finances since 1826. And as Mayer Rothschild said- I dont care who has the title, if you control the money you control all.
http://judicial-inc.biz/94so_w.....ndemic.htm
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
BLASHPHEMY!!:??? YOU SOUND LIKE A TEMPLAR ERA KILLING MAN OF GOD, BUT THATS OK TO KILL
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Crypto-creeps must go,
Again, these are straw men. No Catholic prays TO saints. How about addressing my Ante-Nicene Fathers data for the Sacraments? This undermines almost all Catholic criticism pertaining to worship practice legitimacy.
And how do you know Rothschild runs Rome? Regardless, I dont debate political corruption within the Church. Good worship practices are all I look for.
Hello Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I do not believe that Catholics “run everything”. However, the Christian church is a part of the international power structure. I recommend watching the truth documentary “Ring of Power”. The film attempts to undo 4000 years of revisionist history including the origins of Jesus. It can be found on viddler.com or YouTube.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I wonder how that fares against Dr. Gary Habermas’ minimal facts argument for the resurrection, where around 95% of critical historians grant his data.
Hello Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Well, she would not agree with the first minimal fact, that Jesus died by crucifixion. She believes that he was crucified, but that he survived it by techniques taught to him by Buddhists. There is evidence that he spent time among them in India, after he fled from his home in Egypt. She argues that Jesus was actually the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra. It’s quite interesting.
Army of Heaven 777 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Mike,
I cant figure out what your problem is. Are you illiterate ??? Haven’t you ever READ the Bible you claim to believe in ??? Or do you rely on your ‘priests’ to INTERPRET your Bible for you ??? The teachings and traditions of the catholic church are completely unscriptural. Go ahead and continue to worship the “queen of heaven” if you want but you might want to peruse the book of Jeremiah first. The catholic so-called church is all about lies, idolatry, death and greed, as evidenced by their history on this planet. All they ever do is lie to you – telling you they can trace their ‘line’ as it were back to Peter and that that would somehow matter even if it WAS true, because Peter according to them was some kind of bigshot even though in the Bible he wasnt any more special than any of the other apostles; and he was CERTAINLY never the bishop of rome, although he was killed there ( because the romans just loved him SOOOOO much cause he was their bishop, right ?). Then there’s the fact that they teach you that Mary stayed a virgin DESPITE the fact that the Bible says Jesus had brothers AND sisters, or that Mary was ‘assumed’ into heaven, ASSUME being the key word, since that is NOT in the Bible; or the fact that Mary is called by the catholics the ‘co-redemptrix’ with Christ, an idea which is unscriptural and BLASPHEMOUS as it makes Mary equal to Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God; or how about the fact that by their own admission, all popes are in fact ANTICHRIST since they claim as their title ‘vicar of (or replacement/stand-in for) the Son of God’ (the Greek word Anti means not only AGAINST but also IN PLACE OF, etc). Or how about the fact that the pope also uses for his title ‘pontifex maximus’, the EXACT SAME TITLE julius caesar and every other pagan emperor of rome ever used ??? You need to READ YOUR BIBLE, Mike, especially Luke 11:27-28 where it is written, …it came to pass, as He spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, BLESSED IS THE WOMB THAT BARE THEE, AND THE PAPS WHICH THOU HAST SUCKED.’ But He said, Yea, RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.’ So if Jesus is your Lord, listen to what He says and stop obeying man’s religion. catholicism has NOTHING to do with Jesus Christ – it is as far removed from true Christianity as islam or mormonism is. It resembles nothing so much as the state of corruption, idolatry and depravity of ancient israel and like ancient israel, God cast it off a long time ago. Wake up Mike your trapped in a religion of DEATH.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
SHUT UP!!!! U KNOW NOTHING OF THESE PEOPLE THEY DONT EXIST
londoner Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
WELL DONE ARMY OF HAVEN, CLAPS TO YOU. IF I WASN’T A CHRISTIAN I WOULD FALL OFF UNDER YOUR ARGUMENTS. YOUR PERSPICACITY IS SUPERB.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Army of Heaven 777,
I do in fact read the Bible and study it as well, but I don’t appreciate your ad hominem attacks. Where do you think the Bible came from? If it weren’t for the early Christian saints who used Tradition passed down from Jesus as a guide to decide which Gospels and letters were inspired, you wouldn’t have the New Testament as you know it today. The Bible didn’t just appear in the form it is in today. Many Gospels and letters were rejected, some for being heresy, others for just not being inspired but still containing good theology. In fact, St. John tells us at the end of his Gospel that Jesus taught many more things than what was written, “But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written” (John 21:25).
No Catholic worships any saint or Mary. We pray to them for INTERCESSION. This is a straw man. Let’s stick to my foundational case for the Sacraments and Tradition.
You are just flat out wrong about Peter, and historic texts AND the Bible prove this. Jesus told Peter he would be the rock on which he would build His Church (Matt 16:13-19), and the writings of the Ante-Nicene Fathers prove that Peter was indeed the Bishop of Rome, and even traces the succession after him (the one immediately following Peter is disputed, but only in the sense of whether he was 2nd or 4th Bishop of Rome). You need to look into history here. Simply do a wiki search for St. Clement, St. Irenaeus, or St. Ignatius of Antioch if you don’t want to read all of the early Church Fathers (who were taught by the Apostles themselves).
Jesus’ “brothers” (James) did not necessarily mean biological. However, this is ambiguous, and I feel that Tradition settles this matter, which is a deeper issue we must resolve first.
Last, Co-redemptrix has not been officially declared by the Church, but I suspect it will be sometime after the prophetic worldwide Warning of Garabandal happens. This title does not make Mary equal with Jesus because Mary will always be less than God. It means that Mary’s sufferings support the sufferings of Jesus to the greatest degree any human has ever done. This is perfectly Biblical, as Paul said, “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church” (Col 1:24). This means that our sufferings are joined to Jesus’, and Mary, being the most perfect human being (but not God), did so the best any human (even all humans combined) ever will.
You don’t know what you’re missing with the Sacraments. They have born such good fruit in my life. I hope you research what I told you. My religion has brought me nothing but peace and LOVE.
Army of Heaven 777 Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 10:54 am
Mike, your ignorance would be laughable if it wasn’t so obviously sincere. You are DECEIVED my friend – you walk in darkness, not knowing where you are going. Listen – I know the Son of God. I have seen Him, and He embraced me as His own. What I tell you is the Truth, and I tell it to you for your own benefit – because if you continue down the path you are on, you WILL someday hear Him say to you, “I never knew you”.
First of all, regarding Peter. It is written, “When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter (Hebrew – Kefa, a stone), and upon THIS ROCK (Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven”. – Matthew 16:13-19 The Rock Jesus referred to is not Peter himself but Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. The word ‘Kefa’ which we translate as Peter doesn’t even mean a big Rock you could build a church on, it means A STONE. Peter is only ONE stone in the temple of God, as it is written, “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.” – 1st Peter 2:5. Again, it is written, “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” – Ephesians 2:19-22. Peter was a stone the same way ALL Christians are stones; he was only a brick like the rest of us, not the chief corner stone upon which the whole church is built. THAT Rock is CHRIST and none other.
Now, as for your statements about the Bible ‘not being enough’ and your claims that tradition is supposed to hold some kind of weight, Jesus said, “Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And He said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” – Mark 7:7-9. Apostle Paul also said, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” – Colossians 2:8. So you go ahead and keep your traditions – I’ll stick with the inspired Word of God.
You also said that you pray to the saints so that they will intercede for you. But the Bible says, “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. – 1st Titus 2:5-6. Jesus Himself is the only possible intercessor between you and God – all your prayers to the saints are worthless. You may as well be praying to jupiter or zeus or apollo – and you pretty much are, because the catholics simply continue on with all the old rituals and traditions of their pagan ancestors.
Another point. The catholic church forces it’s ‘priests’ to be celibate. But the Bible says, “This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.” – 1st Timothy 3:1-7. So, according to Scripture, ALL your so-called ‘bishops’ are spurious, since it is a requirement of a bishop that he HAVE a family. Are you starting to see a pattern yet, Mike ??? A pattern of total disregard for the Bible and all that it teaches in favor of the traditions of man. Yeah, thats the catholic church all right.
Another point. Jesus said, “When ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” – Matthew 6:7. Yet that is EXACTLY what you catholics do with your rosaries and your hail marys and all your many pre-scripted prayers.
I could go on, Mike. But I think it’s fairly obvious by now that you dont care what the Bible teaches. Youy like your idolatry and your blasphemy. So enjoy it. But dont blame me on judgement day when you are standing before God and hearing not words of praise and honor but words of judgement and condemnation. Leave that man-made religion and follow Jesus like I did, or remain a romish lapdog.
Army of Heaven 777 Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 11:06 am
One more thing, Mike -
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. – 1st Timothy 4:1-3
This prophecy refers to your catholic church and it’s celibacy and it’s rules about not eating meat on fridays, holy days, etc. The catholic church is the modern day SANHEDRIN. They are PHARISEES – if Christ had come today, THEY would have crucified Him.
Stick with your catholic church if you like greed, lies, homosexuality and rampant pedophilia. There’s a reason why so many gay people and so many child molesters feel so very at home and comfortable in your catholic church, Mike. It’s because GOD ISN”T THERE. Leave the catholic church behind and learn what SOLA SCRIPTURA means
Philip B Kirschner Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
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P.S. At least let us pray that our father in heaven will lighten this burden we are all carrying now.
Conspiracy of Silence Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 12:11 am
Ever heard of the bible? Thats where it talks about the Jesuits being behind every wicked deed on earth. Have a nice day.
GOMES or john with no "O" Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am
WHO OS JESSUS. I NEVER MET HIM
Look! Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:41 am
And Obama’s popularity is also FAR worse than reported!
Take the Wall Street Journal poll – amazing!
Here’s the link to the page:
http://online.wsj.com/public/p.....-days.html
Look for this part:
# How’s Obama doing? Vote:A | B | C | D | F
Debunker Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Ignore the misinformation.
Crypto-creeps must go Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
http://judicial-inc.biz/94so_w.....ndemic.htm
Grayrider Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Debunker, you are on the right track. The mainstream media fools the majority of people. But it’s Alex’s job to try to fool the smarter ones. If he were really a thorn in the side of The Satanic New World Order, he would have had an accident long before now. I can’t imagine how they can pull off shit like Oaklahoma City, 911, & all else they do but can not do something as simple as to shut up Alex Jones or the Commercial Hour (Power Hour). They are on the air because the “Government” wants them to be. They fool a lot of the smarter people. Then, they get you on their list when you call in. Simple as that. Think about it-use your head-don’t be fooled by this bastard CIA agent Alex Fucken Jones!
Funny Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Hey Gayrider, put the gun to your head and pull the trigger till it goes….click.
What have you ever done? I’d be surprised if you’ve woken anyone up, at all. Get on their list when you call in? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. There are 100 other ways to compile lists of people that you think are your enemies.
You’re funny.
Crypto-creeps must go Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
All the big mouth patriots on these blogs. “were gonna fight! were gonna resist! we’ll rebel to the end!” yet they are afraid to be on a list.
NWO is clear that 90% of us are slated for destruction, lists or not. why make it easy for them?
ggg Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Then why are you here?
T . R . O . L . L
Here’s the source of all the Jesuit claims:
http://zionistchampions.com/ph.....expert.htm
parentsfortruth Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Hey Debunker, we know you work for the freemasons, so you can shut up. Get a clue.
Pat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
when alex says, “the new Rome” he’s making a metaphor you silly dimwit. like this is the evil new world empire. he’s implying that we’re as evil as the romans.
Alex is not working for anybody. All that stuff you’re saying about his ties to the catholic church are meaningless, unbacked drivel. you’re either an asshole blog troll or a complete nut job. you’re a schizo dude, those voices in your head aren’t reason… they’re insanity and delusion.
smoke some herb dude, it’ll mellow you out and open your mind. you’ll still probably be crazy, people will just like you more.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
HA HA!!! THATS RIGHT, YOU NUTJOBS AND YOUR OWN VERSIONS OF HOW THINGS “REALLY” HAPPENED
rat Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:08 am
^ Dumb & Dumber seen in Falkirk Scotland. red eye.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
You morons are afraid of every organization on the planet.
The catholic church is in decline, they are losing numbers faster than Merrill Lynch. They don’t “run” anything anymore.
You so-called Christians who believe in Lizardmen and Space Aliens are as much an enemy of free of patriotic people as any mentally castrated catholic clergy of either sex.
You Christian Zealots have already condemned a huge number of your own kind to a certain death in the near future. The first bunch of lunatic baptizers who come down my road screaming that I need to feed them or give them shelter are getting as much lead as any tyrant on a mission to take what does not belong to the government.
So, keep flapping your lips until sane people everywhere are afraid of you brainwashed morons.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Amen!! HA HA
ray lynch Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Agree with you Debunker. This looks to me like a dry run, checking out the state support system. To the advantage of 24 hour news channels and the egos of the government health ministers and the heads of WHO who are getting their day in the sun. Suits everyone and it will all die down in a few weeks.
Ken -- The ONE! Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 4:23 am
Those who attacj Alex are in need of some credentia;s.
Without them, you are nothing.
Petty. Jealous, small minded, just to name a few of what you have going for you,
right about now.
Jesus walked on water.
I do not need my friend Alex to walk on water.
Without a verifiable track record of your own, you stink.
YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!
Credibility is the one real currency one can have. But you have none.
Attacking Alex? You are first in need of telling us all about YOU.
Tell us how you walk on water, are better than everyone else, yadda, yaddsa, bla bla.
Dumb and Dumber Ass!
Attacking AJ is for the pea brained.
Take a shower, become a man.
Infowars New Web Order Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 7:42 am
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I believe this poster should become an Un-poster because he or she
Made defamatory threatening, harassing, hateful post.
I expect you to delete this undesirable person immediately based on your own “rules”.
Further, I’d like to thank Infowars for providing the “order” which other posters here can now use to censor with. I on the other hand do NOT expect to be deleted. Because I AM following YOUR rules! In fact. I should be paid or given praise for my efforts to enforce your NWO rules. Thanks again.
Joe Sucker Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:01 am
YOU DONT NEED PROOF! The catholics do run everything or is it the JEWS. No maybe the BANKERS, No its the ILLUMINATI yea thats whos running everything. Or, maybe its the ROCKEFELLAS ROTHCHILDS or it could be the GOVERMENT and OBAMA WHO IS THE anti -christ. Wait it could be the Masons yes they are running everything. Then again it could be the INDUSTRIAL MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT thats a good one. More than likely its the GIRL SCOUTS. They hook you and trap you in thier system with those dam cookies. I cant resist the cookies.
walter Reply:
May 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
This article has a letter stating that one hosiptalized pregnant woman was very sick and fighting for her life – and this information is which it points out had not been realeased to the press as of the writing of the letter which was before 4/29/09. The press published nothing of this, only talking about the toddler who had died.
Well, she died today (5/5/09) and the story broke in the Washington post, in regard to her being very ill to begin with. So, you guys got to it first and I’d publicise that if I were you, as it substantiates that the letter, which people here are picking on, was legimiate!
Here is the link to the washington post article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01905.html
Walt
war is now Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:25 am
The governments lie
The media lie
The people believe BBAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
GET IN LINE FOR YOUR DEATH SHOT SLAVES !!! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR – BIG BROTHER IS HERE.
WE WILL RESCUE YOU FROM THE SWINE FLU. The only thing this has to do with swine is the SATANIC ELITE WHO DOMINATE THE WORLD. WAKE THE HELL UP SLAVES. YOU ARE NOT FREE.
God is MASTER. PRAISE ALLAH
http://www.soundclick.com/worldcapital
williamwallace Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:40 am
“Praise allah”……. You put yourself at risk of being called a fuckass.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Why??? because He isnt the real GOD???? Get out of here hick!!!!! Allah means GOD. You like the idea of killing anyone who doesn’t believe in your stupid fucking book.
DErAngeD Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:09 am
i see the conspiracy theorist nutjobs were right again. the new 911.
Chris Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Are you retarded? The outbreak levels are not up for opinion, all level 5 means is that the disease has occurred in multiple WHO member countries. That has happened. So the level is 5. No debate.
huh Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I agree
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti.....hub=Health
solomio Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Panic-demic or pandemic ?
but watch this, after naomi´s klein´s book
shock doctrine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwe4G7rfHQE
Chris Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
ಠ_ಠ
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
We knew this was coming all all along…HOly shit…Alex Jones is dead…they got him…B@@! Awwww, shit. There are time zones. He’s not really dead. He’s just a few hours behind the rest of us. No matter what happens, I’m prepared to say I told you so. Fema camps? Told you. Pandemics? Told you. Intentional food shortage? Told you. Chemtrails making us sterile? Told you. Military roundups? Told you. NWO takeover? Told you. Aliens in your closet, hiding with condoms in hand…just waiting till you fall asleep? Told you. Lizard people posing as gasoline attendants and crossing guards secretly feasting on blonde children? Told you. Obama running naked through the streets of Chicago chanting, “Death to America”? Told you.
You know what? No matter what happens you people ‘knew this was coming’. Truth is, when anything happens, you should be saying, ‘knew this was coming, but the other 8,000 things I knew were coming… didn’t come.’
Truther Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
The most prevailing thing “they” are all saying is this.. “avoid all gatherings.” Interesting that is would crop up at a time when people are starting to gather to protest issues nationwide!
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I used to like listening to Jonsey. HOnestly, I can’t stand the commercials anymore. It’s the same shit over and over…like mind-numbing robots….over….and over….and over…My choad is the tip of the finance oligarchs, and it’s facism…people…
Buck Johnson Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
You are correct, why would they move to level 5 (6 is the highest) if this wasn’t as bad as they have been saying. It’s because if the president came out and say this is a serious and dangerous flu, then there would be panic. Also he would have to close the border to Mexico (good that would do), and send troops to the border region to enforce it.
JCIS Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 2:03 am
They want to mass kill but hide (most of) the evidence in case they get caught, and so healthy people might let their guards down.
Thank God the elderly are not targeted in this virus!
Shelly Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:17 am
Will the people that the government and news media be responsible for the heart attach and strokes they are causing people to have? I think this is just a way for the government to remind people they are in control….
April 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Has there been a case of any non-hispanic people with anything more than the sniffles, yet?
Dave Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Nope,the government has figured a way to depopulate the Hispanic numbers in the US by means of a genetic virus that sticks to the markers of Hispanics.
They’re working on one for African’s too,pretty cool huh?
sinlou Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:55 am
you are a ass!
Greg Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:32 am
It is actually possible,
I have been in contact with my friend who lives in San Fran. She has come down with an incredibly bad case of the flu, and she has been waiting for two days to get the results of whether or not she actually has contracted the swine flu or not. But she has terrible symptoms, if that’s what you’re asking.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
“Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no “herd immunity,” so the “attack rate” is very high.”
herd immunity….yikes! …I’m sure thats what they were hoping for, a HIGH attack rate.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Alex they are watching you- they are watching all of you! I am part of a military intelligence team and every time you tell people to search for this or that on the internet it lights up. When peopole use your web site, call your show or email you- they track it all and you’re helping them identify and track everyone who follows you
justme Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Yeah Pere, and they have just tracked you you stupid bastard. Go blow a pig and do us all a favour!!!!
swine hoax Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:35 am
obama probably hired this 10 yeard old piece of shit as part of his youth brigades…anyways it’s time to call the swine flu what it really is…the swine hoax…just like the 9/11 hoax
chew on this Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
everytime you see a light that means there is another person awake. We already know who you are. You are the ones who have to scurry around behind closed doors. We don’t need to trace your locations or addresses, we already know because we employ you. Fear is what you make of it. People searching the truth are not afraid to be known for seeking it.
You can keep all the information you collect, sort it and play with it. It’s just busy work that we the people have employed you to do.
Keep it up and please spell my name correctly in print.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Well put chew on this!
We are going to hang every one of these SOBs, and soon. A jury of their peers, only made up of Patriotic Americans, as they were supposed to be.
Social Parriah Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Doesn’t he sound like a school kid whining to “tell on you” to the teacher?
“WHaaa, I know what YOU did! I’m telling the teaaaaaaaaaacher on you, and Youre gonna get in trouuuuuuuuuuuuubllllllllllllllllllllllle….”
Nya, Nya…
“You shouldn’t be assembling, voicing controversial opinions in order to protect yourself and bring attention to the crimes and corruption espoused by the people who have authority over you.”
Well, boo, frikkin, hoo…
Doesn’t it figure that the sociopaths at the helm of this debaucle are a bunch of immature, spoiled brat children, with too much power and money, in grown-up bodies?
Lucky us…NOT!
Peter Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 12:33 am
Social Parriah,
Why do you bother? Would you care to answer what your troll ass is doing here? If your attitude comes through in that nonsense you write, then why spend your time coming to this site and wasting your keystrokes? Because you get off whenever you get a chance to voice your kind of psycopathic bullshit that makes you feel like you’re superior to others in every way. But you can’t spell the words in the vocabulary you’re trying to use. Why don’t you just go watch tv or something.
spiritgirl44 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:40 am
HMMM?!?!? I have often wondered WHY Alex always says google this and google that when it has been stated MANY times that google reports to the government!!!! I have been using http://www.startpage.com an untracked search engine….
starting to question all of the answers to the questions!?!?!?!?!
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Ask Jeeves is so cool and so non NWO!. Shut up go sell your crap to someone whos buying. GOOGLE is obviously the one of CHOICE for people you Idiot.Everything is tied to the Government.
Pere is a fool Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I imagine you and your team are pretty smart fella’s, you are tracking us- but you can’t even spell the word people. DUMB ASS!- your military intelligence team is going to get a gold star for today. I like to hear that the military is still employing retards. it’s neat to think retards can feel important too. Now go drink your cool-aid out of your sippy cup and don’t forget to take your nap. We want you to be at your best for saving the world, by helping taking away our freedom! Thanks Pere for your stupid comment you piece of shit!
Peter Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 12:36 am
Typos aside, he’s trying to make a point that we should be aware of. Don’t blow him off so quickly as if what he says isn’t important.
Matt Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am
*Yawn*
Military “intelligence” eg. “When peopole use your web site..”
Nice one slick.
sinlou Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I have known that for years.. let freedom ring.. screw them.. give me liberty or give me death.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Ooohhh. ok. I’m so scared they know that I know about some NEWS ARTICLE LINKS. and OPINIONS, go away PERE. Fantasy man Pere wishes he was cool.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Sounds like a lot of Hype!!
Egypt is killing all of their 300 thousand hogs, yet “swine” flu has nothing in common with hogs. Not a single hog has gotten ill of the new flu, and not a single case of hogs infecting people/animals with the flu has been reported.
This it total madness and hysteria, don’t fall for it, trust in God, NOT in men!!
Seen it before Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
don’t worry, in 2-3 years, it will come out that some big agri pig producer bribed some corrupt offical in Egypt to issue that order so they can make a windfall profit by restock Egypt with new pigs just like they did in Haiti in the late 70’s early 80’s.
Philip Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Now, Seen it before, where could you find a corrupt official in Egypt?
Of course, Zammy is most likely correct.
“total madness and hysteria…”
notasheeple Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Pig farmers call it the bird flu and bird farms call it pig flu…either way it has nothing to do with animals. It’s man mad genetically engineered for the purpose of depopulation. I ate bacon this morning it was yummy. :p
sinlou Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
agree… I happend to know one of the Microbiologist that was killed back in 2003 ..
April 30th, 2009 at 9:07 am
on the bright side. maybe the school kids will get a vacation from indoctrination.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
The genius behind these nutters is magnificent.
They derail their own programs, kill their taxpayers (oops, that makes the rest of us work harder), continually do stupid crap to make the people wake up in larger numbers. They are a bunch of rocket scientists… NOT.
Bozos.
RAT Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Dear Hangman 1
It seems that there are a small number of nuterenius / nuterenious groups ( for want of a better word ; ) .
Appearing to have to share a smaller number of systems most of which are thought to be
working in the service of the administateive bodies .
The thing about the nuterenious is they are all doing their own thing. For them,selves.
We are slain by Elves.
Peter Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 12:49 am
Hangman, consider that the banking elite already own most of the WEALTH of the planet, what they don’t have is…well, the planet. Thats what the depopulation scheme is about. Can you believe anything could be so sick? It’s like these demonic bastards are trying to have the whole world for their own, like it was a private resort or something? I used to think it was a sicko, nut case idea. Now I’m not so sure of myself. I recently discovered that a so-called science of eugenics started gaining traction among the circles of the elite around the turn of the 20th century. Even then they wanted the whole world for themselves, the beautiful people, who now rule the world.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Look people, the best way to avoid this stuff is to exercise and stay in shape. And wouldn’t you know it, I just found the perfect excercise video on YouTube. You can thank me later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izpU4YJ0ZAA
justme Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
John that is to funny!
Jayhawk Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:40 am
hilarious!
Dave Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Excellent!
Eyewantmymoneyback Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:53 am
LMAO that was great.
roaddog Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
good one. LOL
April 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Hard to know what to believe about this swine flu nonsense… pray for the best and if the worst comes, kiss your ass good bye!!
The Truth Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Why the hell do you want you and everyone else to give up at the drop of a hat?
Buy a supply of this… http://www.oxysilver.com
WestCoaster Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Better yet, buy a machine and make your own. With Codex Alimentarius who knows how long that stuff will be legally available for purchase.
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
uh, no. Kissing is not a good idea.
rat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
cheeseburger my good fellow it is safe to kiss ones self and although I am in traction now a
more measured movement should ensure complete freedom from medical attention.
Aaggh.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Is anybody else wondering when they will begin blaming this outbreak on a Constitutional-loving patriot?
Battle Hymn Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:40 am
It’s not the flu they will blame on “right wing extremists”. It is the panic they’re trying to create that they will blame on truth-seekers. They will describe the exaggerations and spreading of fear, particularly on the internet, as the equivalent of shouting “fire” in a theater. They are trying very hard to create some panic-related scenarios to sway public sentiment in favor of censorship. They will use this as a device to take more control over the press and the internet. They’ve already given Obama the emergency powers over the internet, now they need to create the emergency. It is vital to their plan that they limit and control the spread of news before they implement the major components of their agenda.
Zammy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:07 am
There’s already some news articles blaming Twitter for hysteria. Right on. They’ll use any excuse they can. Notice how reporting on the “first 100 days of Obama” have gone under now that the flu is more important.
sinlou Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
They started this a while back now.. and noticed they are really slamimg it hard now.. put on the news wow… they are taring apart anyone who disagrees with them..
April 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Alqaeda working with Mexican Drug Cartels Unleashed the “Swine Flu”!
“Swine Flu Source Spawns Wild Theories” – Reuters
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/.....c=102780.0
“Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen”?
OwlMan
April 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Hmmmm!!!! must work for the government…….
April 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am
This makes more sense….I was wondering why things were bad in Mexico but not that bad here. Obviously, it is just as awful north of the border as it is south.
They should be closing the borders and stop all travel. This is life or death.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:31 am
how about VP Biden dropping not to fly or ride subways. the elite rule. how about you elite parasites quit feeding off the masses.
http://www.myspace.com/skullfront
April 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I choose to believe the opposite of what Obama touts. Since he says there is nothing to worry about it is like a Nazi saying go on in the water is warm in our showers. All those who trust B.O. are doomed. I believe they want people to doubt that it is serious so fewer people will take precautions and that way it will spread to the entire population so drug sales will go up to the sky. Sick people are much easier to herd. I’ll bet military around the world have already gotten vaccinated for this exact strain so they will be ready to go house to house where most people will be too weak to defend their guns, homes and families.
sinlou Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
my children are the only one’s wearing mask in school so far. the school has not mention a word. even though we already have cases in our state. assholes..
April 30th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Wash your hands after you eradicate your fecal matter at the local shopping center. Don’t shake hands with anyone who seems Hispanic in nature. Don’t spend your hard earned currency on that imported fruit from down south, that includes the cocaine and even the wreefers. It could be contaminated so just buy local. If you see a swine piggy,even if its your ex-lover, go ahead and punch it right square in the face.
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Won’t ‘punching it in the face’ cause it to blow swine flu all over you? That’s the last thing I would do to someone with a deadly flu virus. Punch them in the face, then dunk your infected knuckles into molten lava or battery acid.
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
william, wreefer was the first thing i thought about when i heard it was coming from Mexico.
I even asked my buddy sitting next to me..
“do you think they drove to Mexico to get this?” Luckily is was not.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:37 am
I heard if we ban all private ownership of firearms in the US that it will cure the flu…AND the violence in Mexico. Kill 2 birdflu’s with one stone!
Zammy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:45 am
They found out if they declare nationwide permanent martial law and ban free speech for 300 million Americans, it might save the lives of dozens if not hundreds of them!
Dave Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I’ll bet that Janet Reno Napolitano will try this excuse
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
ziffel: wish you guys would get over the whole BO banning weapons crap. You want weapons? A half-decent machinist can make all the weapons you like out of bar stock with minimal tools and equipment. Bottom line: it is simply not possible to remove weapons. Everyone has the technology to make rifles, pistols or even crude machine guns. Let’s focus on some of the other wacky conspiracy shit, it’s more interesting.
Let’s go with lying cops, secret military patrols, Fema concentration camps, NSA-CDC-induced pandemics, psyops, alien takeovers, etc. At least this shit is really scaring the sheeple’s on this site.
Jonsey is saying this is the ‘biological 9/11′. This should send some conspiracy-ninnies into hyperdrive! Getcher seeds, peanuts and water filter’s here! Gettem here! Uncle Sam’s after ya! We can sell you a way off the grid…
April 30th, 2009 at 9:41 am
well i work as a civilian on a military base and the word around here is that mexico dropped the ball completely on this flu. it has been a problem in mexico for over a month at least, so nothing new at all. their media over there just isn’t as sophisticated as ours is, although most of our media is bought and paid for. it will be interesting to find out if this virus is race specific, as far as deaths go….
Dave Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Mexican’s dropping the ball??,,,NO!!!!
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
SEE!!
THAT is what i am saying. Mexico has known about it for a while. They were too busy feuding with the drug cartels which they let get out of hand. So they forgot about their own people who really needed help and now because of pig farm poop pools in Mexico we have another flu to deal with.
it’s irresponsible .
April 30th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I think we all need to go to Georgia and tear down the Guide Stones.
Rob Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:40 am
WHY THE FUCK HAVE YOU GUY IN THE US NOT DONE THIS ALREADY? YOU COMPLETE SHEEPLE!! I MEAN>>>>DO YOU LIK BEING ASSFUCKED. IT SEEMS THAT YOU DO. GET A TEAM TOGETHER WITH TOOLS AND TAKE THEM DOWN. SEND A MESSAGE TO THE NWO/ILLUMINATI/MASON SCUM THAT IS EASY. IF I WAS IN THE STATES RIGHT NOW, I WOULD BE HEADING FOR THE GUIDESTONES…….AND BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. WHO CARES ABOUT PROSECUTION RIGHT NOW!!
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
They are already watching the guidestones 24/7. There are a bunch of Feds getting paid about sixty thousand dollars a year to sit in a car and eat doughnuts. The Guidestones were vandalized a couple months ago.
Not a smart plan. Wait until the Feebs catch the flu, then go tear them down.
cheeseburger Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Fed’s don’t get the flu. They are no human…they are lizard people…check it out…google it if you don’t believe me…
RedFlame Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 6:15 am
I agree the government never lies.. except it always nearly does. The police never abuse power.. Yet they always seem to… really there is such thing as healthy skepticism.. you are along the lines of a 12 year old trying to antagonize people.. It makes you look more foolish then them.
Griz Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Let me know so I can try and get time off for it.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:43 am
i am almost certain that the outbreak is worse than reported. i have caught the media lying several times.
for example, a couple of days ago the MSM said that there were only 9 cases of swine flu in the USA, but they also said that hundreds of kids at a new york school were going home sick???
yup, this is worse than we think.
Agenda 21 Activated Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I can tell you here from New York City- they have been doing martial law drills on the street with mounted horses and barricades and evacuation vans for about a month and a half now in my neighborhood. I even asked them a few times about martial law, and what riots they were anticipating? I got some unlikely blather of course. God help all who travel the subway; count on them spraying an aerosol into the tunnels. (they have done this before)
This has been well planned/timed and NWO are hoping flu disseminates far and wide- hence no closure of Mexican border or screening of Mexican passengers.
Agenda 21 now active.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Welcome to “FEAR-MONGERING: 101″
Wake the hell up people. SARS in ‘03. Bird flu in ‘06.
Don’t you think if their was a REAL THREAT then the borders would be locked down & the infected 3rd worlders would be kept out? Somebody just wants to sell some vaccines. Follow the money!
Agenda 21 Activated Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Get conscious dude and use your brain. Read their OWN documents and research their history, capabilities etc. Look at the last 50 years of pillage, coups, CIA torture (long before Gitmo). Ask any military vet about the experimental vaccines used on them.
Or remain asleep till they declare martial law and seize you for their innoculations. Lets talk after you get your first shot, and you can let us now what we fearmongers have been missing.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Every Woman Marine (WM) that I knew who got the Gulf War shots with us later had miscarriages. Every single one of them.
People who got Gulf War shots and did NOT go to the Gulf had the same symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome that those in the so-called hot spots had.
My skin split open and drained poisons for ten years after Gulf War 1. That is the truth and nothing but the truth.
Agenda 21 is correct, especially about the shots. Do not let anyone put a needle in you for any reason, not even a tetanus shot. Do not take pills from pharmaceutical companies. Even their vitamins. Supplements are not absorbed anyway, eat greens, orange and yellow and red vegetables at every opportunity. You’ll feel better and your immune system will thank you.
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I believe you about the miscarriages.
Did your skin ever heal up (I hope )? That sounds terrible Hangman 1.
Why isn’t it possible that they are waiting until enough people have it , in enough diverse places to truly cause a pandemic, and for now, they are playing it down so more people don’t take precautions ? Doesn’t that sound twisted enough to work ? It will spread and spread with no alarms going off until everyone’s been exposed.
It is not out of the realm of possiblility.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:50 am
yeah I can see it now, the citizens of the usa- your guns are making mexicans sick / your going to have to give them up – eric holder and nancy pollow-ski (with a face only a pillow could love) can eat me -organized crime look out -you have competition!
April 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Yes of course look to who will benefit from this event and you will have your culprit. Am I mistaken?
Bobbipin Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
It’s not too late for Obama to ram through another “emergency bailout”. With that corrupt gang in Congress, just a smidgen of bogus hysteria will do…
It can be called “The Obama Emergency Swine Flu Billionaire Bailout Plan”. Under the plan, every billionaire could get an additional billion of borrowed taxpayer $$$ to help stave off “financial collapse.” Or some such BS.
Who better to benefit from Swine Flu than Capitalist Pigs? Eh?
No matter. The liars on TV will swear to what ever lie Obama needs telling.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Heads up folks.
Take it for what it is worth. My wife is an emergency room supervisor and she is telling me there are many more cases then reported. They are not allowing the nurses to wear protective masks for fear of creating hysteria. We are trying to decide on how we should proceed as a family, I am leaning towards telling my wife to call out sick for the next couple of weeks. She could possibly lose her job, but I value her more then money and a job.
I do not know where this is going and I do not have all the info to judge whether or not the truth is being hidden. All I can tell you is what is happening within my wifes hospital…. and it is not good there.
Agenda 21 Activated Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Where are you Dave? What part of the country?
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
If she is a nurse she will always have a job. Tell her to quit right now.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:54 am
My wife makes yummy pork chops and I’ll unload on anybody who keeps me from them!
April 30th, 2009 at 9:57 am
I believe the swine flu is about censorship. The mis-reporting is intentional. See my response to Georgette Orwell above.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:58 am
interesting reports… i read an article on cnn.com the other day about the doctor that reports for them out of mexico. The report basically said that things werent that bad in mexico and the hospital was empty. On the comment section of the report, a doctor out of mexico stated that the cnn report was a liar. The cnn reporter was actually in the basement of a private hospital. The reason why the Doctor knew that the reporter was lying was because he is the head doctor at the private hospital.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:00 am
you’re shift starts at 10:30. don’t be late again. and don’t forget your i’m lovin it visor again.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:01 am
look, this is a complex psy-op. they issue different levels of urgency to different levels, release conflicting information and stir up the mix to cause maximum chaos. there are conflicting stories from day one on this thing. causing “hoarseness” is relatively easy with the chemtrail trials they’ve done. this is neither fish nor fowl: the hype is the story is the hype, the viruses exist, they are engineered, the vaccine only exists if novavax made both the vaccine and the virus. they ARE NOT LOCKING DOWN THE BORDERS because this is an op, but the excuse is that “quarantines never work” because of human nature and instinct to escape and “it’s too late anyway” because of the nature of viral incubation and contagion. this is an op. THIS IS AN OP. the bioweapon so far has FAILED, but it is a BIOWEAPON. beware, be aware.
rat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Ah yes complex , I can see why you wouldn`t want to run the risk of understateing it.
I have myself have been looking for a slightly stronger word.
Top speed every where it beggers belife. animalife, and fishlife I`m not suprised at all.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Go jogging. I mean boost your immune system and reduces stress. It would be intelligent to eat healthy and take immune system supplements try cayenne pepper from the local food health store.My bro and I put a tablespoon in a shot glass,add some water and tip it back. It will wake you up in the morning.Try Astragalus root it has antivirul properties among other benefits.
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
just received this email –
I suggest that you read as well as print this doc. and be prepared with the items listed.
http://www.cancertutor.com/Other02/Pandemic.pdf Also take a look at reported cases so far: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms.....81&z=5 Interesting to note this comes just 2 weeks after flu vaccines with 2 LIVE strains of avian bird flu were “accidentally” released worldwide. Also effective and more easily available are oil of Oregano and raw garlic.
WestCoaster Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Two words, Colloidal Silver.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Is this “crisis” man-made?
Google: leonard horowitz swine flu _ watch the video and read some of the articles.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:27 am
A precursor to the current “silent” braindead American mentality:
Between 16 July 1945 and 23 September 1992 the United States of America conducted (by official count) 1054 nuclear tests, and two nuclear attacks.
One Thousand and Fifty Four Tests!!!…Oh…and Two Nuclear Attacks…
The number of actual nuclear devices (aka “bombs”) tested, and nuclear explosions is larger than this, but harder to establish precisely. Some devices that were tested failed to produce any noticeable explosion (some by design, some not), other “tests” (by official definition) were actually multiple device detonations. It is not clear whether all multiple device tests have yet been identified, and enumerated.
Conducted Below Ground.
Conducted At Ground Level.
Conducted In The Atmosphere.
Conducted In Space.
All aided and abetted over the decades by a largely “silent” braindead population!!!…the breeders of the current largely “silent” braindead population!!!
Silent!!!!!!
Sssssshhh!!!
rat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
? do you know what happened at Mount Pinnatubo in the Philapines in 199x (early)?
There was a volcanic eruption there and some bits of the picture didn`t fit together well.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:27 am
As of 10:18 am eastern time,the first case of swine flu was reported here in Georgia.What are we to think about this so-called swine flu?
April 30th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Alex is so right. We will all end up in camps.
Want to know why?
Because so many of you are worried about who is ‘running things’, or ‘who is lying’.
Maybe the vaccines you took when you were a wee little boy have taken their effect and you are officially dumbed down.
Alex is not spreading lies. Do you even listen to the shows you fools?
He says all the time ‘don’t believe me, check it all for yourselves’.
Point is, this arguing is all a waste of time!
We should be sharing useful information on this site like how many people do we actually know have been effected aorund us in our town, city or state?
Do we know of any family or friends or coworkers have come down with it?
If so what are their symptoms? Have the recovered? How long did it take?
Also, we should be sharing info about door to door searches, suspicious vehicles,, planes, or people in our neighborhoods.
Anyone notice the # of chem trail planes exploded as of last week? Hmm, who flies those planes? Rome, Tel-Aviv? No, it’s DOD, controled by Washington….you fools.
Either share useful information or shut the hell up and enjoy your stay at Camp Fema…
Hope you like your shots, and rice…
For the rest of us, it’s Time to Unite and BOLO for what’s going on around us. Anyone see what the Mass Senate passed yesterday?!>??!?!?! I NEVER would have known about it if it wasn’t for Infowars and Alex, and I live in the God Forsaken STate!
Wakeup!
April 30th, 2009 at 10:33 am
http://ancientpathsmidwifery.s.....m/blog/cns!1B55934B87D1D099!2482.entry
Government May Have Had Advanced Warning Of Swine Flu Outbreak; County Health Centers Across The U.S. Reported To Have Had Rehearsals For Mass Flu Vaccinations Already Planned
April 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am
that somes it all up. It;s a knew viras from Texass.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:49 am
How about Joe Biden’s comments? I’m surprised he could take a break from feeding his reptilian maw small children even to get out this utterance … Closing the borders won’t make a difference!!!
Ask Japan and Australia if being isolated didn’t help them out during the Spanish flu. Yeah, I know because of globalization it would be difficult to do this now – but this is yet another reason why globalization doesn’t work – why America – hell – every nation should maintain secure borders and why travel should be capable of being restricted when rouge governments like the US release bio-weapons on vast swaths of the population.
Sovereignty wins again; in a side by side comparison with globalization, national sovereignty wins every time.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:53 am
i called Dr. Gitterle AND GOT A RECEPTIONIST.
SHE CONFIRMED THAT THE DR DID SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND THAT HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CALL ME BACK.
i left my name and number.
she could not confirm what was in the email though.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Check out the top two articles
http://www.narconews.com/
April 30th, 2009 at 11:02 am
here we go again people attacking ajs character instead of his information. much easier to prove or disprove the information so best to go after someones character. cowards
rat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Don`t worry yellowhak1 when all the clowns have finnished we the 911,ers and 7/7,er`s and
all other good sorts will be using their scripts for our entertainment because it will obviously be the most rediculous thing that can possibley be said.
chin chin
April 30th, 2009 at 11:04 am
dave, i have been posting everywhere about smithfields farms and no one is listening.
this is big!! they were fined in 97 for the same misconduct and just picked up and move.
THIS NEEDS TO BE MAIN STREAMED QUICK.
THEY SELL MEAT TO SUBWAY AND McDONALDS!
freedommom Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Aware … can you say again about Smithfield? My family is all in Iowa — hog farmers, some — and they are still asleep mostly.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Smithfield was in an article on this site yesterday. Read the one about pig farm production. Smithfield is as irresponsible as they get.
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Hey freedommom
check out my long response below.
Stay safe!
Zammy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
As i understand, this “swine” flu is NOT about hogs at all. The name “swine” is a misnomer and pork meat is safe and no hogs have been affected by the flu, nor do they or their meat infect anybody.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
It is only called Swine flu because of the Swine in the military who created the damn thing.
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
see below.
klaatu Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
You’re talking about two different issues here I think. This new swine flu is an airborne virus that is transmitted between humans. You don’t get it from eating pork products.
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Oh no, i am aware * that the food is “safe”, r swine flu free.
What i’m saying is that these are TWO huge companies supplied by this reckless corporation that was fined for violating the Clean Water act in 97. They picked up and moved away to Mexico for less strict regulations. SO
my whole point was maybe the pig farm is being swept under the rug because i’m sure McDeath and Wrongway know what’s going on and is probably doing something to keep it under the main stream.
Msnbc is getting closer. They keep reporting about the Edgar “patient zero” being in La Gloria as part of a town. What no ONE has reported on is that La Gloria has been PROTESTING Smithfield’s factory because the town of 3,000 were getting RESPIRATORY problems and falling ill. Mexican journalists have been reporting about this since April 5TH. One might say most of these people have probably been sick since mid March. no wonder we weren’t able to stop the spread. MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WASN’T LISTENING. go figure.
Also there have been questions about the email from the Dr. in New Braunsfels who sent out the email teling people the CDC were keeping details .
– well i just google his name and the city.I found the number and i s/w a nurse and she had been getting calls in like crazy and she confirmed he had sent an email BUT couldn’t confirm the contents. I asked her if they were crazy busy and if she was seeing a lot of the H-Flu. She said it had been crazy and that lots of people are getting tested. BUT HERE’S THE NEAT PART. —–When i asked how many had been tested positive for the type A strain she said TWO, 2 PEOPLE had tested positive while she had been working Thurs 12 hour shifts.——————
again just be aware of what is going on. even if you don’t want to believe it. Anything you want to find the answer to is out there. For the H-Flu the the first answer is in La Gloria. Why hasn’t the CDC gone there? Maybe they have . Residents complain about FLY CLOUDS and rust around these “poop lakes”. Smithfields hasn’t made a comment or one wrong move. Being that they’re in La Gloria you figure there name might come up since they supply food to the whole world. That’s all i’m saying. IT’S NOT THE MEAT, i know what has been printed and said. BUT “Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K. ” or at least in La Gloria.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’m confused.As of yesterday I read on this website that the 150 or so that have died in Mexico was all hype by the media.The real number was 7.Now saying that its worse than first thought.I don’t get it.Help!
April 30th, 2009 at 11:18 am
recall that is was said a black man would be president, ” when pigs fly”..indeed 100 days into Obama’s presidency, we have swine flu.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:26 am
What someone needs to do and which I will do here locally, is visit a hospital and just politely ask if they are seeing an increase in flu-like symptoms in the emergency room. If you find the right person they may even confirm it. Today I plan on making calls to several Denver area hospitals since I live just north of Denver and see if they either confirm or deny. I will then put that on a map on my web site.
Right now, we just doctor so and so sent out an email, but nothing is ever confirmed. This could be nothing more than psy-ops designed to get us to accept the flu vaccines without questions.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Hasn’t anyone noticed how they keep changing the number of fatalities and the infected to much smaller numbers everyday, and how new information about it is scarce?
The news is painting a not so threatening picture of it and so is CDC and WHO.
They are trying to make people think its not a big deal so they don’t do anything and don’t prepare.
Every report we see from normal people and doctors around the effected areas(especially in Mexico City) are say hat everything is way worse then reported.
This Isn’t Hype.
The Media and The Government are trying to mislead you into not preparing and not caring.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
check this link out to oxysilver as promoted by Dr. Horowitz interviewed yesterday.
http://www.oxysilver.com/index.asp?AffID=1377
click on the link, and do what you have to, to prevent naturally this flu outbreak. Best wishes to all and Good health.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am
IT’S “NOT” THE DAMN SWINE FLU… IT IS “MIXED IN” ALONG WITH THE AVIAN AND HUMAN FLU VIRUSES. This “is meant to scare you…EVIDENTLY… it’s working too! Collodial Silver is One of the BEST possible substances to maintian your health,,, I BET, the sales of it WILL BE STOPPED SOON!
April 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I work @ Parkland Memorial Hospital and the ER is not seeing any increase in cases.
peace
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Thanks for sharing
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
is that in Dallas? I know of a parkland in Dallas.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Patriots and Truthers Please Listen and Prepare:
Hasn’t anyone noticed how they keep changing the number of fatalities and the infected to much smaller numbers everyday, and how new information about it is scarce?
The news is painting a not so threatening picture of it and so is CDC and WHO.
They are trying to make people think its not a big deal so they don’t do anything and don’t prepare.
Every report we see from normal people and doctors around the effected areas(especially in Mexico City) are say hat everything is way worse then reported.
This Isn’t Hype.
The Media and The Government are trying to mislead you into not preparing and not caring.
pikeaero Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Why would they mislead us like that You mean the Government and Media don’t love and they don’t want what’s best for us? That’s very sad.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
This is what the hysteria is all about: DISTRACTION from the REAL ISSUES:
Here’s some NEWS from today you didn’t hear because of the “flu”:
- Obama’s 100th day in office, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan still fully in place, costing $12 billion a month, the troops still in place, torture all pardoned by Obama and continuing, none of Bush’s power grab directives repealed, none of his massive “stimulus” spending having done any good
- Chrysler files for bankruptcy
- Senator Specter, a political prostitute, switches parties
- just in: Congress Clears $3.5 Trillion Budget Plan
April 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
TAMIFLU SHELF LIFE IS THREE YEARS AND I HEAR MERCK NEEDS TO UNLOAD THIS STUFF. SMOKE SCREEN FOR WHAT THEIR REALLY UP TO. GOTTA ADMIT IT WORKS EVERY TIME. TEXTBOOK
April 30th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
WASHINGTON – Joe Biden said Thursday he advised his family to stay off airplanes and subways because of swine flu, a remark that forced the vice president’s office to backtrack and prompted one airline official to complain about “fear-mongering.”
“I would tell members of my family — and I have — that I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places now,” Biden said on NBC’s “Today” show.
Biden, who has a reputation for off-the-cuff remarks, went beyond any precautions recommended by the federal government. In discussing his personal advice to his family, he said simply, “That’s me.”
Within two hours, Biden’s office issued a statement backing off the remarks and suggesting he was talking about travel to Mexico.
“On the ‘Today’ show this morning, the vice president was asked what he would tell a family member who was considering air travel to Mexico this week,” said spokeswoman Elizabeth Alexander. “The advice he is giving family members is the same advice the administration is giving to all Americans: that they should avoid unnecessary air travel to and from Mexico. If they are sick, they should avoid airplanes and other confined public spaces, such as subways.”
Biden, who has three grown children and five grandchildren, was asked whether he would advise his own family against flying to Mexico on a commercial flight.
“It’s not just going to Mexico, if you’re in a confined aircraft and one person sneezes it goes all the way through the aircraft,” Biden said on NBC. “That’s me. I would not be at this point, if they had another way of transportation, suggesting they ride the subway.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends avoiding nonessential travel to Mexico. But it isn’t recommending that people avoid other travel because of the swine flu.
American Airlines spokesman Tim Smith declined to comment directly on the vice president’s remarks, but said, “To suggest that people not fly at this stage of things is a broad brush stroke bordering on fear mongering.”
“The facts of the situation at this stage anyway certainly don’t support that,” Smith told The Associated Press.
U.S. Travel Association President Roger Dow urged the public to “heed the advice of medical experts” and gently chided the vice president without specifically mentioning him.
“Elected officials must strike a delicate balance of accurately and adequately informing citizens of health concerns without unduly discouraging travel and other important economic activity,” Dow said in a statement Thursday.
During his decades as Delaware senator, Biden was a regular on Amtrak, riding the train from Wilmington to Washington.
Asked on NBC’s “Today” show whether the U.S. government should close the border with Mexico, Biden said health authorities advise that would be impractical and noted the new flu is already in the U.S. and several other nations.
Instead, Biden said, the focus should be on slowing the spread of the virus through groups of people in close quarters, such as airplanes, malls, stadiums and classrooms.
“Closing the classroom and closing the border are two fundamentally different things,” he said.
The CDC recommends basic precautions such as hand-washing, use of alcohol hand gels and monitoring local health advisories when traveling. The government also advises that children with the flu be kept home from school and day care. Biden said he hoped employers would be generous with workers who stayed home to care for a sick child.
Hangman1 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Where is it, exactly, that one catches the subway destined for Mexico from the USA? Enquiring minds want to know.
SecretActivator Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
GOOGLE BIOTCH
April 30th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
What Dr. Marcus apparently does not realize that south New Braunfels, Texas is our southern border where an average of 2,000 illegals cross every day into the U.S. And now who knows how many illegals are crossing into the U.S. seeking free medical care. So its not suprising that the ER’s south of his locale are being overwhelmed.
aware Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
exactly!
when the nurse told me in her 4 day work week that lots were coming in but only TWO had been tested positive in 4 days eased my mind a little but then had me thinking that the numbers could add up.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
The reptoids are spamming!!! Join Infowars Chat
April 30th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
There’s a case of the flu in Minnesota now.
http://www.kare11.com/news/new.....mp;catid=2
April 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
WOW…
April 30th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Just follow the money.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Remember: DONALD RUMSFELD is behind the Tamiflu. Was a Chairman of the company owner.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
#### ALEX , NAPOLITANO and CEBELIUS our fearless lesbian leaders ARE LIVE RIGHT NOW on CNN!
Lab-Rat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I heard Napolitano and Janet Reno love to 69 each other!
WHAMMO! Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 1:13 am
When the government is involved it is 96
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April 30th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
their true colors have always shone bright. they are all closet republicans. they are ashamed of arlen specter. jonsey is a class a asshat
xelA_Jones_backwards_a@@hat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
yer right on… he ignores ‘right-wing’ news and focuses on criticizing lib dems. i thought we were to ignore the ‘paradigm’?
xelA_Jones_backwards_a@@hat Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
viva la obama
April 30th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
http://chatroll.com/infowars
April 30th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Doesn’t it take up a lot of time to keep your blog so interesting ?
April 30th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
PERHAPS THE SITES ARENT JUST SABOTAGED BUT ALSO ACCESSED BY MILLIONS OF
WOKEN UP PEOPLE!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Lolz… epic fail. http://i47.photobucket.com/alb.....r/Lawl.jpg
April 30th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Don’t trust the government? Prove it.
Show the federal government and the United Nations (WHO) that you don’t EVER believe a word they say! Join RantNation for a swine flu party in Cancun over the Cinco de Drinko holiday next Tuesday. As this map shows, swine flu is working it’s way around the world. The genie is already out of the bottle. You could stay home, miss out on all the fun, and die anyway.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
%%%%%% ALEX ,,, Swallow Your Pride and ASK for DONATIONS! From affluent People!!! Put Pay-Pal Buttons All_oVer Your Pages,,, JUST FREEKIN DO-IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
i have talked to family in the state of veracruz, mexico and they are saying that practically everyone is sick over there. i really think that it is worse then what they are saying.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
If it’s not serious why is Vice pres saying people should not travel. Given what we know about the Media, should we believe what they are telling us about so few casualties.
After all the Vice Pres is confirming this article.
Maybe Best not to take any chances.
Salty Dog Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Somtimes old people slip and say the truth when they have been told not to.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
The first thing I want to point out is that the countries that are resisting the NWO are not reporting “Swine Flu” cases. They are protected by the fact that they refuse to let these monsters poison their people.
Second thing is that in my town we have 2 schools shut down due to children presenting flu symptoms. This is Pittsburg Ca.. which has been over ran by illegals. We have more mexicans in our town then most small towns in Mexico.
Salty Dog Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I think a lot of them went to Mexico for Easter and that is why so many are sick with it.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
http://www.spiegel.de/internat.....98,00.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/.....PO20090428
April 30th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I was listening to report coming out of Chihuahua Mexico that stated hundreds have now perished! I wish we could get some good credible info soon!
April 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Wow. They don’t want anybody to go the ER. I wonder if they will come up with a number and plaster it all over the mass media for the sheep to call in if they have symptoms. The masses will ring it up no doubt about it. If anybody sick must avoid the ER, what happens next?
Martial law is coming then.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Why would the Gov. hype the swine flu in the Media 24hrs a day, hold CDC, DHS press conferences, yet this article and others on this site assert that there is a cover-up of the true magnitude of this faux-crisis? THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE U.S. DEATH-the kid who died was brought here from Mexico! He wasn’t even a citizen! This is clearly a faux-crisis but the cover-up is in the Media OVERSTATEMENT, not understatement.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
CNN BreaKing news “Member of president’s team who recently went to Mexico is suspected of having swine flu, undergoing tests.”
Only by Gods hand will the evil be defeated.
BobbieJo Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Oh Wow. If he dies, then total hell will break out on the mass media, spread to the sheeple and God only knows what else is coming. Mandatory shots more than likely. The plot now thickens as the member may just be a scap goat. They don’t care about their own kind.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
When our Gov Reps and fortune 500 CEO’s start leaving the Country, then you can panic.
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
lol !!
April 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
it amazes me that so many people believe the media, they dont even realize that we, the people, have been have resperatory problems for months now due to the chemtrails. now the media says theres a pandemic and KABOOM mass hysteria. some people believe the tv more than they do their own eyes. this doctor must have his butt in a sling with the irs or something, maybe just another shill, either way, he’s lieing thanks alex for the heads up
April 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Does anyone here think the gov. will start closing all schools to prevent the spread of this “swine” flu?The reason I ask is that a majority of people who are experiencing alot of flu symptoms are children that are in school.Also many schools are being closed at the local level.Will it go to the national level?
Salty Dog Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I think they will wait until more kids get sick
April 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Grayrider has a point. If this NWO has so much power & influence then why do they allow a guy like Alex Jones to mouth off like he does. If the NWO has its enemies it simply eliminates them. Eliminating Alex Jones would not cause a commotion that most think it would.
Truth No Fear Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
It’s simple you fool.
If they take Alex out they make him a Martyr.
They legitimize his message and all that he has done.
Once they kill him, they bring about Braveheart Syndrome.
When they kill us, be ready because they will be coming for us all.
You idiot…….did you ever learn any history?
God Bless Alex and the True Patriots in America!
April 30th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Seriously in no particular order it’s the Jews, the Cath-o-licks & the Scientologists who run everything. Educate yourselves people! Damn it sucks that any hack who can figure out how to use a keyboard gets a voice. Hopefully they’re among the 25% of the population this (crossing fingers) wipes out.
Sean Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
…………………….
April 30th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
debunker your a young uninformed douche. you mean to tell me that if you have money you cant buy what you want?????remember o.j.
the fact is this is a bio engineered weapon for whatever reason its being used for …most likely money and a diversion to the economic and torture issues…….so the key is think people think real hard and it will come to you
April 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I think most people know that the WHO and the CDC are telling us lies.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Look people, the NWO would have to do a lot better than a pandemic to get rid of 80% of us. The 1918 pandemic killed, at most, 1% of the total population.
Army of Heaven 777 Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
You say 1% like it’s a small number. 1% of the u.s. population is 3,000,000. 1% of the earth’s population is 600,000,000. Granted, this is not the 90% kill ratio the nwo is shooting for. But let’s not minimize the situation. If 1% of all the people in amerika die, MANY if not MOST of us will have lost loved ones. Besides, you have to realize that their plan consists of MUCH more than this ‘pandemic’ alone. Factor in the fema camps, riots, starvation, martial law, other sicknesses that will spread, possibly MORE man-made govt. pandemics… I think you can see that in the final equation it will add up to much more than 1% if they are TRULY going for it and this is not just more beta test, psy op, conditioning. I am praying as hard as I can for the Lord to step in and stop this pandemic; those of you who are Christian, please join me in calling on the Lord to slightly alter some small piece of the ’swine flu’ dna to render the nwo’s biological death toy harmless. Because all the guns in the world can’t fight something like this. We need God’s help, and for those of you who don’t believe in God, I’ll be praying for you and for your family too.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Look, I’m just getting over the flu so I’m pretty sure that I’ve contracted this flu. Who cares? I’ve easily gotten through this latest illness without complications at all! If one takes reasonable precautions, you shouldn’t worry at all. The body has amazing mechanisms to heal itself. Take Vitamin C in HUGE (8000 mg in FIRST two hours of feeling tired or cranky) doses and thereafter take 6000mg per day for several days. HOWEVER, Vitamin C only works well if you begin taking it BEFORE you get OVERT symptoms of a disease. In other words, begin taking Vitamin C when you’re tired and cranky, but shouldn’t be, but BEFORE you get the symptoms, e.g. fever. Also, take large doses of Vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, and EFAs (essential fatty acids). Having antibacterials on hand is also a good idea, e.g. high-quality colloidal silver (Kelly) and P73 oil of oregano. If one prepares for viral and bacterial infections IAW with these suggestions, one will almost succumb to ANY overt symptoms of such infections. You’re intentionally be scared to death by government and media for some nefarious agenda. You do NOT need to worry in the slightest if you take precautions.
Paul II Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Dude! You don’t have the Swine Flu. More likely you have Hay Fever. I mean there’s pollen so thick out here in Va that everyone feels sick an it’s the trees causing 95% of the symptoms.
Paul II Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Oh and one other thing, be very carefull with that colloidal silver stuff. I know three people who took that crap. One guy’s skin turned grey (!!) from taking so much, the other was poisioned by lead in the water from some knucklehead who tried to make his own using a 9v battery and alleged “.998 silver wires” what turned out to be lead solder (!!) that some fool sold to him as silver and the last guy sent away for some for $57 a bottle what turned out to be fake, it was just spring water in a fancy bottle. Be carefull there’s alot of snake oil salesmen out there!
tpreitzel Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
No! I don’t have hay fever, believe me. You don’t get digestive problems with hay fever. Yes, I had some VERY mild symptoms which I’ll bet was due to this virus, but those problems were minimal because of my precautionary nutritional support. My routine works! NO PROBLEM AT ALL! I’ve lived long enough to know the difference between allergies and the flu. This flu is WIDELY disseminated in the US, but it’s absolutely ZERO threat to anyone who would take my advice. I do agree that one needs to be careful with colloidal silver, but that warning applies to everything. BTW, Kelly colloidal silver is EXCELLENT quality. Naturally, it works as an anti-bacterial and it works well indeed!
Cockroach Stomper Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
My God if you take that much ascorbic acid, (vitamin C) you’re gonna
petrify your kidneys!
Doesn’t everyone know by now that high doses of ascorbic acid can
leach calcium from your body and precipitate it into kidney stones?
You get small molecules of silver every time you use sterling silver
utensils to eat with. Why do you think they used to make sure babies
were fed with silver baby spoons?
Use some common sense, folks!
April 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I remember the previous Swine Flu scare in the not to distant past, everyone was encouraged to take shots, more people died OR were paralyzed from the shots than were sick from the swine flu. This is most likely the same thing as gas wars etc. Give the people something to obsess about and they won’t pay as much attention to what the government is ACTUALLY doing.
tinman Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Totally agree…smoke and mirrors
April 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Arrrrgh: If one prepares for viral and bacterial infections IAW with these suggestions, one will almost NEVER succumb to ANY overt symptoms of such infections…
April 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
It’s all gonna start in Texas!
April 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Can someone tell me what the baboon Alex is babbling about when he talks about being HACKED? I have been on this site several times today NO PROBLEM. He is so sure that THEY give a crap what he does he has a drama in his head about his own self importance and dreams up cyber attacks. What a baboon!
mickey's a fuck face Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
hello
April 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
http://news.bostonherald.com/n.....ormat=text
Mass. Martial Law, read it. WTF!
April 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
If you research(local news) you will find that most states now have suspected cases of this flu.
They are now waiting on the CDC to confirm the test.
There is a county in Alabama that has already closed all of its schools.
Also all school related school sporting events. I have never seen anything like this.
I do belive that we are behind on information. I dont think they are getting it out fast enough.
I think the CDC is holding back.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
As far as I am concerned this whole swine flu threat is a huge crock of something. Look at it this way. The current USA population is approx 306,324,240. The number of people diagnosed with Sf is 280. That’s just 0.00000098% of the total population who ARE infected. I mean folks, with numbers like that you have MUCH better odds hitting the Powerball Lottery than contracting Swine Flu. Think about it. With numbers like that, I’m not worried, are you?
EdwardUK Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
While I somewhat agree with you that is a small percentage and not to be too worried you have to remember that if each person who had swine flu transmitted it to another single person every day (which on a calculator would be 280×2=560 – 560×2=1120 etc) – The whole population could have it in about 20 days. Numbers multiply up very quickly.
Toma Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I was worried, but after reading Paul II comment now I’m not worried, but then I read EdwardUK’s comment, and now I’m worried again.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Join Infowars Chat
April 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
All infowarriors need to eat a vegan diet, stop your stupid cigarette smoking and exercise.
You fucking slobs are going to be the first to die.
Hype or no hype; it’s time that your health is your number 1 concern.
WestCoaster Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
I’m all for good health, but if history repeats itself with something similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918-19, then the fittest and healthiest of all will surely perish too.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Bloomberg video interview has CDC director confirming W.H.O. readying Phase 6…
“CDC’s Besser Urges Businesses to Review Pandemic Plans”
tpreitzel Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Of course, the PTB want to elevate the threat level for their nefarious purposes. Regardless of assertions to the contrary, I’ve just likely contracted this virus late last week and I’m now nearly back to normal health. I simply took some basic nutritional precautions which will mitigate the symptoms of ANY viral and bacterial infection to the point that the victim hardly notices it. These scare tactics are silly and unnecessary.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Of course it is Paul II. But this faux-threat is simply a means to an end. If they can get enough drones to believe there is a crisis, they can move ahead with whatever the real aim is. Too bad we live in a world where perception is reality.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
This hysteria is without a doubt apart of a concealed strategy like a discovered attack in chess.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Here we go with the vegan shit…
April 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Crypto-creeps must go,
Again, these are straw men. No Catholic prays TO saints. How about addressing my Ante-Nicene Fathers data for the Sacraments? This undermines almost all Catholic criticism pertaining to worship practice legitimacy.
And how do you know Rothschild runs Rome? Regardless, I dont debate political corruption within the Church. Good worship practices are all I look for.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Hey penexpers
Explain the why we have canine teeth and what accounts for the presence of hydrochloric acid in the human gut? It aint for digesting bean sprouts I can tell you that much. If you adhere to a strictly vegan diet for any length of time, you’ll be the one feeding daisies. Vegetables lack some essential ammino acids that are contained only in animal meats and fats…and yes fish is meat, so are eggs, and so is milk, genius. Put down the propaganda cookbook…go hug a f*ckin tree.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
well paul 2 i guess over 2000 just hit the lottery
April 30th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
search this in google FA-HUM 2009
April 30th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I love how people can’t stay on topic to save their life here
April 30th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
he’s pimping Tamiflu, who is this guy?
April 30th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
The Bush bio-weapon attack is failing, laws of nature are prevailing
The bio-weapon released in Mexico and Switzerland and other places by the Bush/Clinton crime gang is not going to lead to a pandemic, a senior bio-weapon researcher says. The researcher, who was part of the team that developed HIV in the 1950’s to 60’s says the Bush/Clinton Nazis have been trying to carry out a mass genocide via disease for 50 years but had failed. HIV, for example was supposed to depopulate Africa but it failed to do so because the dormant period was 28 years.
The reason is the laws of evolution favor weaker versions of a disease so all the bio-weapons have been attenuating, that is getting weaker over time. For example, in the case of bird flu, sick birds cannot fly far so the viruses that let the birds fly the farthest spread further and faster. The same thing is already happening to the “swine flu” bio-weapon. There will be no pandemic despite the desperate efforts of the Bush/Clinton crime family to create panic.
The virus was released in retaliation for dozens of arrests of senior Bush cronies, according to an NSA source.
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.....infulford/
tinman Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Also.. Arrests apparently are taking place as we speak.
http://www.worldreports.org/ne....._this_week
rat Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:23 am
“Timber moles in mustard worbbling in a minor key” <… — … on the 13th day my true love gave to me.
April 30th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Alex Jones is a NWO reptilian shape shifter. He’s paid to monger fear.
April 30th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
It seems that at this time satan is speaking louder than God to the world. If this article is true, which we have no reason to doubt at this time, it seems that we shall think that we are in hell within a very short period of time. I believe the reason is, that we have chosen to listen to satan rather than seek the righteous ways of our creator. The outcome of this struggle between good and evil will be determined when God and his son Jesus Christ evict satan and his followers and claim their property.
April 30th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Thu, 04/30/2009 – 1:46pm
LPACTV: LaRouche Addresses Question on Swine Flu
http://larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=10107
April 30th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
If this Dr. isn’t correct they should throw him out of medicine. My bet is one more on the unemployment roles!
April 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
you are NOT paranoid! you are RIGHT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2sUYvidgI
April 30th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Does Infowars take the position that the flu is more serious, or that it less serious, than reported? Why?
April 30th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Dr Tenpenny has much more informative and accurate information – see http://www.drtenpenny.com. http://www.mercola.com has good information on this too. Get educated, not scared by a well meaning but fearful doctor.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
My cousin is a Marine and told me that they are all on standby for a National Emergency declaration they expect by Saturday. They have been ordered to silence but he told me to pack up “go to the cabin for a while”.
I intend to heed his advise. If you have a cabin to go to, I suggest you do as well…
April 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
We “The People” have had our History Stolen from us.
They have taken our homes, our jobs and financial stability then our family values and morals.
Then they came for our freedoms and our rights.
Next they will take our weapons.
Now they have taken the most precious element on this earth. AIR!
We have nothing left.
RISE UP!
April 30th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
THERE IS A CASE IN MY SMALL TOWN OF PINEDALE THERE TRYING TO KEEP IT HUSH BUT IVE JUST FOUND OUT WHY WOULD IT BE FAKE OR IN WYOMING FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!!!!!! WYOMING IS SO SMALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tpreitzel Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
This virus is ALL over the place. So WHAT! Take some precautionary steps and let the dead dog lie. If people keep concerning themselves with this fearmongering nonsense from the WHO, they’ll die from cardiac arrest, but certainly not this laughable viral strain…
April 30th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
“War of the Worlds”
Sme now as was then….
Hoax
April 30th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Martial Law is not coming. Not any time soon. No matter how it looks YWH is in control. I just depends on your state of mind.
Janelle Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
“It” not “I”. Martial Law is for the weak minded.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Well if the Mexican toddler, (bless his heart) is so far the only
confirmed U.S. fatality and this Doc claims the rate is “25-50 times
higher”, then 25 to 50 people are seriously ill or dead from
the flu.
One person dead is too many but its a far cry from the tens of
thousands of deaths necessary for it to become a true pandemic.
If the Doc practices in a border town, how many of the patients
who are seriously ill are Latino?
Those poor folks have so many counts against them even before
birth it’s no wonder they have little strength to survive a disease.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Riddle me this. If the purpose of this swine flu is for the NWO to trick people into taking a vaccine that will exterminate a great deal of the population, WHY on earth would the govt. then DOWNPLAY the severity of the outbreaks? Would this not be counterproductive to the ‘evil’ plan?
If the actual number of infections was 10-25 times what we are hearing, that would be beneficial for a govt. wanting to induce its citizens to indulge in a ‘killer’ vaccine. So, what purpose would it serve to under-report the infections? Exactly, none.
By the way, supposed inside info from an anonymous source does not corroborating evidence make.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
People fighting over who’s right, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or even Jews–you are fighting the wrong people. There are good people in all those “denominations”. It’s always the money people who are at fault, no matter whose religion they have, or no religion. And perhaps the leaders, the elites, of all of these religions are at fault.
Proanonymous Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Thanks, Margaret!
I was getting frustrated in reading down the posts & seeing them deteriorate from an intelligent discussion on the veracity of the flu threat reports to a bunch of religion bashing. I agree with your statement – and would like to add that whoever is behind the distribution of the misinformation that is confusing us on the flu’s dangers loves nothing more than to see us wasting our time on guessing which belief system is right or wrong as well. We are wasting precious energy . . . let’s focus on the facts, pray for guidance, and hope for the best.
God bless!
April 30th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
One further note: Many of you need to read the work of two time Nobel Prize winner, Linus Pauling. Vitamin C alone will work wonders if taken as Linus directed. Personally, I’m done here. This latest viral strain is absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G of importance on which to waste more of my time.
rat Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:31 am
Thank you tpreitzel I hope you are as well informed as you sound.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Arizona officials won’t tell the truth about how the Mexican flu is spreading in the Phoenix area. Either it is from illegals or people coming and going from Mexico.
“- Apr. 30, 2009 03:21 PM”
“The Arizona Republic”
“Maricopa County public health officials have closed two more schools, both in the Chandler Unified School District, after confirming that children there had been ill with the H1N1 swine flu virus.
The schools, Tarwater Elementary and Hartford Sylvia Encinas Elementary School, are both closed for seven days, officials said. They are not releasing any further details about the children, including ages, or how they contracted the disease, in order to protect their privacy.”
April 30th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Hey everyone,
Just got an urgent e-mail from Dr. Mercola for its members. Pass on the message to Alex Jones. Tell him to check out “Critical Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?” :
http://articles.mercola.com/si.....e-Flu.aspx
Critical Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?
I don’t know if I’m allowed to copy and paste it since there are many links to it, and there is a total of 10 pages.
He says it is a hoax, and more than likely it is real flu that may be active in factory farms- animals living in crowded situations, in squalor, sickly and on drugs. This is the perfect situation for a flu to occur. But for it to jump to humans, unlikely. You must read it. If it blocks you, just join as a member, its free, and then you can access his stuff. This address should take you there.
This Doctor wrote about the Flu pandemic, He wrote on the Flu his book is titled ” The Great Bird Flu Hoax” He is an active Doctor, and still practices. Everyone don’t panic, in his urgent memo he has tips on keeping the body healthy and how to keep the flu away.
May 1st, 2009 at 3:00 am
http://imgur.com/27K39.jpg
May 1st, 2009 at 3:56 am
Hoax or not people are starting to realise that all is not what it seems.
In the last 24 hours there have been more searches online for ‘Tamiflu Conspiracy’, ‘Swine Flu Conspiracy’ than any other.
The fact that people are starting to question what they are force fed is a leap forward.
http://www.the-911-conspiracy......onspiracy/
Keep Questioning!
May 1st, 2009 at 7:53 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
May 1st, 2009 at 8:06 am
Swine Flu just discovered in Torrington CT. It’s just become all too real for me.
“A school staffer who returned last week following a vacation in Mexico was sent home by school administrators, along with “some students” who also had flu-like symptoms”
http://www.rep-am.com/news/doc.....784343.txt
May 1st, 2009 at 8:26 am
INSOLENT FOOLS!!!!!!!
BETTER THAN 90% OF YOU WERE TOTALLY MINDFUCKED BY DEBUNKER, INTO A POINTLESS, MEANINGLESS, IRRELEVENT DEBATE ABOUT CATHOLICISM, ALEX JONES,AND JESUS CHRIST.
COWARDICE
….A MESSAGE TO ALL THE JESUS FREAKS INFECTING THESE POSTS, YOU ARE MARGINAL, GET THE FUCK OFF THIS MESSAGE BOARD UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING USEFUL TO ADD TO THE RELEVENT TOPIC.
May 1st, 2009 at 8:29 am
THANK YOU
IM GOING TO WORK NOW TO GET MY MIND OFF ALL THIS SHIT
I SUGGEST THE REST OF YOU DO THE SAME
OUR WHOLE WORLD COULD BE ON THE PRECIPICE ABOUT TO TUMBLE INTO THE ABYSS,
SO GET OUTSIDE AND ENJOY WHATS LEFT OF YOUR FREEDOM WHILE YOU STILL CAN
May 1st, 2009 at 8:45 am
Ha ha ha. Wow. The virus leads directly into religion, alright. If the article is true and the virus is worse then it appears. And this is how you people respond to it. Perhaps the world needs another cleansing…this was pointless, this whole conversation and comment thread was pointless, wasted energy.
Congratulations.
GOMES or john with no "O" Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 10:56 am
DUBBLEPLUS GOOD
May 1st, 2009 at 9:28 pm
satan will soon be gone forever, and God Almighty YHWH, CAN HARDLY WAIT. I have looked into many religions, and am still researching for myself, but it definately seems to me that the Jehova Witnesses are among the most credible. If you never gave them a chance because of peer pressure, I think it is worth it to listen to what they can teach.
What I do know for sure is that the Catholic religion is bent twisted and evil. The evil I have experienced many times by the doing of Catholics in in my life is definately remarkable. If you call yourself Catholic, I would get out fast. Even the name Catholic sounds like gothic.
Alex is honored on high as a true brave warrior.
May 1st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I’m refering to finding a proper un-manipulated translation of the Bible. God Almighty DID NOT tell Abraham to kill his son. Jehova Witness Bible I think is good because it differentiates much more clearly between a god or spirit creature of the time, and our creator YHWH, (Jehova) God Almighty, but still reading it…. I’m will have to keep searching, others I still need to read before I will know for sure.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
This goes for the awaken dude since there can only be 2 replies.
Logic will just draw you away from god. You need faith, you need to live the faith and make yourself strong in faith with prayers and fasting and going to church(attending the holy liturgies). Whatever you read, have faith and speak to an eastern orthodox father and ask them the questions. Do you really believe that the true disciples of Christ which he himself appointed don’t know that what you are speaking about, common…
you just need to be in the church of Christ so that the mercy of god be upon you which you ONLY can receive in his Church…
Please go and talk to an eastern orthodox priest and ask him what you have told here.
God be with you.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
downwa,
great insights and I’m grateful since after your post I will know more about my religion(knowledge about religion isn’t always a good thing, but sometimes the time comes to make progress in that area too). I’ll get back to you with a post that clears that confusion for you and I will try to make my post as concise as it was yours.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Seriously, if you’re going to try and float these wild accusations and conspiracy theories, you should probably not post completely contrasting stories on your sites. Especially one ad where you say that you figured the whole swine flu thing was a hoax from the start. Yet there are panic-stories all over the place – about whether the severity is under-reported, alleged military involvement, martial law etc.
If you “knew” it was a hoax, you wouldn’t have posted all those stories and still continue to post conflicting stories.. trying to cover all your bases, so that you can say “i told you so” no matter what the outcome is eh?
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
I bet this comment will be deleted as fast as the previous one was. However, all one has to do is look around the site to see the conflicting stories. If you want to trick people, you’re going to have to fix that, by removing the contradictions. Happy deleting!
May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
This article on your wesite entitled TEXAS DOCTOR CLAIMS CASES ARE 25 TIMES GREATER, had a letter stating that one hosiptalized pregnant woman – and this information is which it points out had not been realeased to the press as of the writing of the letter which was before 4/29 — was ill with the mexican flu and was fighting for her life.
Well, she died today (5/5) and the story broke in the Washington post, in regard to her being very ill to begin with. So, you got to it first and I’d publicise that if I were you, as it substantiates that the
letter you publsihed was legimiate!
Here isthe link to the washington post article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01905.html
Walt
May 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Actually the pregnant texas woman was already in the news by April 29th, as mentioned by the governor of Texas. Look it up. The story did not just break 2 days ago.