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The great, international, demonic, truly frightening Iranian threat
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The Anti-Empire Report
June 7, 2009
“The United States is “facing a nuclear threat in Iran” — article in Chicago Tribune and other major newspapers, May 26
“the growing missile threat from North Korea and Iran” — article in the Washington Post and other major newspapers, May 26
“Iran’s threat transcends religion. Regardless of sectarian bent, Muslim communities need to oppose the attempts by Iran … to extend Shia extremism and influence throughout the world.” — op-ed article in Boston Globe, May 27
“A Festering Evil. Doing nothing is not an option in handling the threat from Iran” — headline in Investor’s Business Daily, May 27, 2009
This is a very small sample from American newspapers covering but two days.
“Fifty-one percent of Israelis support an immediate Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear sites” — BBC, May 24
After taking office, on Holocaust Memorial Day, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said: “We will not allow Holocaust-deniers [Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] to carry out another holocaust.” — Haaretz (Israel), May 14, 2009
Like clinical paranoia, “the threat from Iran” is impervious to correction by rational argument.
Two new novels have just appeared, from major American publishers, thrillers based on Iran having a nuclear weapon and the dangers one can imagine that that portends — “Banquo’s Ghosts” by Rich Lowry & Keith Korman, and “The Increment” by David Ignatius. “Bomb, bomb, bomb. Let’s bomb Iran,” declares a CIA official in the latter book. The other book derides the very idea of “dialogue” with Iran while implicitly viewing torture as acceptable.1
On May 12, in New York City, a debate was held on the proposition that “Diplomacy With Iran Is Going Nowhere” (English translation: “Should we bomb Iran?”). Arguing in the affirmative, were Liz Cheney, former State Department official (and daughter of a certain unindicted war criminal) and Dan Senor, formerly the top spokesman for Washington’s Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad. Their “opponents” were R. Nicholas Burns, former undersecretary of state, and Kenneth Pollack, former National Security Council official and CIA analyst and author of “The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq”, a book that, unsurprisingly, did not have too long a shelf life.2
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
This is what “debate” on US foreign policy looks like in America in the first decade of the 21st century AD — four quintessential establishment figures. If such a “debate” had been held in the Soviet Union during the Cold War (”Detente With The United States Is Going Nowhere”), the American mainstream media would unanimously have had a jolly time making fun of it. The sponsor of the New York debate was the conservative Rosenkranz Foundation, but if a liberal (as opposed to a progressive or radical leftist) organization had been the sponsor, while there probably would have been a bit more of an ideological gap between the chosen pairs of speakers, it’s unlikely that any of the present-day myths concerning Iran would have been seriously challenged by either side. These myths include the following, all of which I’ve dealt with before in this report but inasmuch as they are repeated on a regular basis in the media and by administration representatives, I think that readers need to be reminded of the counter arguments.
• Iran has no right to nuclear weapons: Yet, there is no international law that says that the US, the UK, Russia, China, Israel, France, Pakistan, and India are entitled to nuclear weapons, but Iran is not. Iran has every reason to feel threatened. In any event, the US intelligence community’s National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) of December 2007, “Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities”, makes a point of saying in bold type and italics: “This NIE does not assume that Iran intends to acquire nuclear weapons.” The report goes on to state: “We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program .”
• Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier: I have yet to read of Ahmadinejad saying simply, clearly, unambiguously, and unequivocally that he thinks that what we know as the Holocaust never happened. He has instead commented about the peculiarity and injustice of a Holocaust which took place in Europe resulting in a state for the Jews in the Middle East instead of in Europe. Why are the Palestinians paying a price for a German crime? he asks. And he has questioned the figure of six million Jews killed by Nazi Germany, as have many other people of all political stripes.
• Ahmadinejad has called for violence against Israel: His 2005 remark re “wiping Israel off the map”, besides being a very questionable translation, has been seriously misinterpreted, as evidenced by the fact that the following year he declared: “The Zionist regime will be wiped out soon, the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom.”3 Obviously, he was not calling for any kind of violent attack upon Israel, for the dissolution of the Soviet Union took place peacefully.
• Iran has no right to provide arms to Hamas and Hezbollah: However, the United States, we are assured, has every right to do the same for Israel and Egypt.
• The fact that Obama says he’s willing to “talk” to some of the “enemies” like Iran more than the Bush administration did sounds good: But one doesn’t have to be too cynical to believe that it will not amount to more than a public relations gimmick. It’s only change of policy that counts. Why doesn’t Obama just state that he would not attack Iran unless Iran first attacked the US or Israel or anyone else? Besides, the Bush administration met with Iran on several occasions.
The following should also be kept in mind: The Washington Post, March 5, 2009, reported: “A senior Israeli official in Washington” has asserted that “Iran would be unlikely to use its missiles in an attack [against Israel] because of the certainty of retaliation.” This was the very last sentence in the article and, according to an extensive Nexis search, did not appear in any other English-language media in the world.
In 2007, in a closed discussion, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said that in her opinion “Iranian nuclear weapons do not pose an existential threat to Israel.” She “also criticized the exaggerated use that [Israeli] Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is making of the issue of the Iranian bomb, claiming that he is attempting to rally the public around him by playing on its most basic fears.” This appeared in Haaretz.com, October 25, 2007 (print edition October 26), but not in any US media or in any other English-language world media except the BBC citing the Iranian Mehr English-language news agency, October 27.
Notes
1. Washington Post, May 26, 2009 book review
2. Washington Post, May 15, 2009
3. Associated Press, December 12, 2006
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June 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
It does not matter…we are too late..the sheeple are going to kill us via their willful ignorance and apathy..
If you know any complacent sheeple who you want to
creepout, send them this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcvMwZShJTE
itisthebeginningoftheend Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
birgit is right!!!! Kill all white people!!!! praise allah
heathen Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
f--- you and f--- Allah. Same for Jesus. We should just burn the churches in hopes that all of you would just kill yourselves
Awake Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Hey heathen – aka “Gary.” Are you writing from the psych ward…or hell?
Sam Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
The religion of Islam, christianity, judaism preaches goodness and peace. Do you think those who commit sin are following the path of their religion ?
No, rather it is people with no faith.
FreedomLover Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Sam, you haven’t read the Koran if you believe the muslims are a peace-loving people. Muslims who advocate peace are great, but they are going against their own book, which commands torturing and killing “infidels” (FYI, ANYONE who doesn’t subscribe to their religion.
True Jews, not militant zionists, do advocate life and peace, but they will not inherit eternal life unless they, like anyone else on the planet, know the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, personally.
coacht9 Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I agree with FreedomLover. I never post on here, but I am very tired of people saying Islam is a religion of peace. Read a history book – its FOUNDER (you know, the guy who gave us the Qu’ran) was a warmongering lunatic who spread Islam across a vast stretch of the Middle East and Africa by offering the people two choices “Convert or die”.
People are free to practice any religion they want, but those Muslims who are not actively militant against “the infidel” do not have the conviction of their faith, nor have they read their Qu’ran very closely.
Sam Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Your tired of people saying islam is a religion of peace ?
Could it be your perhaps tired of ignorance while others in modern society studied Islam and know the history ?
Islam offered peace treaties and 80 % of the time people lived in peace, while 20 % wanted to wage war.
Where is your proof that war mongering lunatics spread the religion ? when you know religion stems from the heart ?
Do yourself a favour and stop being tired of people saying Islam is a religion of peace and research and you will find the truth.
Peace.
coacht9 Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Easy there Sam. I teach world history – I fight ignorance every day. I know the history of Islam. And I know all about the “peace treaties” that were offered. The Qu-ran teaches that it is ok to lie to infidels as long as it furthers the cause of Islam. Look up the city of Hudaiblaya – a treaty of 10 years made when Mohammed was weak and could not conquer the city was broken when he was strong enough to do so. A peace treaty offered when the choice is “Agree to this or we will kill you” doesn’t really have the ring of peace does it? The proof is in any history book outside the reach of Muslim shari’ah law.
“Convert or die” does not stem from the heart. You do seem like a decent person; if you are a Muslim, you simply don’t have the conviction of your religion. Perhaps you should find a new one.
coacht9 Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I misspoke in the above post. I meant to say the treaty of Hudaiblaya was made with the city of Mecca.
susan morgan Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:40 am
hey freedom lover, have you read the old testament lately? talk about evil, torturous, murderous, hatefilled, incestuous, demon inspired ill will towards humanity.
Sam Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:10 am
The truce of Hudabiya was an agreement between the muslims and the meccans,
since the meccans didnt hold their end of the bargain and began killing muslims.
The prophet conquerd Mecca, but nobody died. The meccans thought the prophet would retaliate against them but he said in a shy voice “Go, you are free”
Since you know your history send me an email and I will challenge you if you are truthful. hasunited@hotmail.com
bar abbas = son of god Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Susan, I agree and one only need go to evilbible.com to see a ‘religion of peace’ or look into the ‘religious’ Spaniards to see what they did to people & entire cultures in the Western Hemisphere.
In the bible, Moses is claimed as some kind of ‘hero’, yer after leaving his home in Egypt, he set about on a murder & rape campaign.
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
way too much killing and rape advocated in the bible for you to have possibly made that last statement
surely you are joking yes?
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
coacht9
christianity was spread throughout europe via warfare by charlemagne—he killed whoever refused to convert to christianity
christianity was also spread throughout the new world via warfare and genocide of the natives in the americas;interestingly enough you dont mention any of this
this is typical u.s.-an hypocrisy–it is why your country is being punished from On High
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
coacht
if you teach history why arent you mentioning anything about charlemagne the killer christian king who forced conversion at the point of swords in western europe
or the christians who nearly exterminated the peoples in the americas while forceing them to accept christianity
in fact christians did in fact exterminate whole nations of people in the americas! the carib indians are no more–the “carribean” is named for them–mocking the fact that christians exterminated them because they were ‘heathens”
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
coacht9 the treaty you mention was not ever ‘broken’–you are reading hateful literature if reading at all
actually the fall of makkah to islam was peaceful
a handful murderers who had killed muslims were executed —no battle was fought and the makkans accepted islam
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
coacht9
every victor in warfare offer peace on his own terms
the christians in the u.s. did the same after ww1 and ww2–so because they had won those wars then there was no peace afterwards? that is what your logic seems to say
since the muslims won the war they should not have made a peace treaty?…that is racist hateful bigotted commentary
apply the same standards to your own as you apply to others –be like jesus
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
coacht9 in makkah there was no treaty at all signed
the nakkans presented themselves before the prophet expecting the worst; he told them “i say today to you what joseph said to his brothers..” and he forgave them all
so you have lied as there was no such threat of ‘agree to this or we will kill you”—they expected death or enslavement and were left alone and free–then they accepted islam
Joseph Michael Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Soon, you will know the truth. It will be revealed to all of us in a gift from God during the warning. Your not a bad person, simply misguided.
bhuddamonk Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Joseph, can you be any more vague or general with your message?
When will this happen? Are you so sure? Ok, since you’ve got the direct line to god, can you do me a favor? The next time he talks to you aobut the impending ending of humanity, can you ask him what the next mega-millions lottery numbers are going to be? I sure would like to be comfortable while I’m waiting for him to come and lift me to heaven.
FreedomLover Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
A people who devalue life and are willing to blow themselves up – who think that is honor, that would be disaster for them to have nuclear weapons. They don’t care about retaliation. For them, that’s a quick trip to their promised land.
Only when people treasure and value life would they NOT be inclined to use weaponry of that sort.
Not to worry, though, when the antichrist shows his ugly face, all nations of the world will forfeit their weapons.
jenghiz khan Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
If you mean muslims –they have nukes Pakistan has had them for yrs now. Bear in mind that muslims have never dropped nuclear weapons on civilians while christians have done so —not once but twice
Troll Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
TROLL ALERT !
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Chips Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
There aren’t any white people. Eveybody’s skin has color.
Emmíd Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Your not even a muslim you disgusting idiot.
I am a white muslim.
xavier Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
get lost idiot, your not a muslim, stop portraying Islam as the enemy you zionists s---!
Wideawake08 Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Whats the REAL PROBLEM with IRAN?????
IRAN wants NO PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!! They know this satanic group wants control of the whole world…So what do they do..SPREAD MORE LIES ABOUT IRAN!
This is a Great example of the ignorance of the American public and how great the US media propaganda works on mindless sheople
nobody Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Don’t worry, you won’t need that gun in the event of a nuclear war lol.
Peace Be Upon the World Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
William Blum needs a course in history, his entire thesis is distorted by upside-down historical misinformation. hir home dot com
June 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I wish I could find the video clip I saw just once, of the jews carted silently in trains , then to Dachau or Auschwitz , they said NOTHING on the train, nothing while walking to the community showers… NOTHING while once who rose up was beaten to death and then his wife shot in the head for screaming out… collectively they SAID and did NOTHING
That is AMERICA today. We could tell them a bus is about to slice them in half and they will hit you and hate you for interrupting their coma..
I am so fed up with willful ignorance..they wallow in it…like pigs in mud…
El ANtichristo Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Im with you Ive given up on the sheeple completely f--- them all, all they can come up with is
“Are you paranoid?”
f--- THEM they ruined my day no more sheeple interaction for me Ive given up, the infowar is up to you guys, in recent AJ vids you can see hes exhausted as well it does get irritating and I feel for the guy spending so much on getting the word out and yet they too dumb to even think TO f---ING THINK PEOPLE WHEN THE f--- WILL YOU LEARN TO THINK AND NOT LET TV DO THE THINKING FOR YOU, Im fed up of being humilated by sheep dumb f---ing sheep
Im formulating another plot……Good luck with the Info war fellow patriots you will need it
Tim Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
By now, the AWAKE people know the what’s going on – still yet have to meet any willing to speak up. ** Lyndon LaRouche is my source of hope and solutions. **
You can’t wake anyone up by throwing all this Alex Jones s--- at them at one time. One world government incrementally crept up on you, always you knew something was wrong but didn’t know what to do about it. Then you learn something that sparks your curiousity, you reseach a little, only to learn something else. Then BAM!!! All the lights come on.
Best thing to do is show them an article on a topic that peaks their interest. Now you got them talking….
Sam Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
No one is going to harm Jews, you are paranoid. If there is someone to blame, blame zionism.
By the way have you seen the palestinan children burnt to a crisp ? Legs shrewed so much that when the medics came to put them on an ambulance the legs melted off ? Have you seen the Israelies use dogs against ladies to bite them, while they just watch ? Have you seen the devastation Israel has caused ? Sit and think what is really the problem ? Its not you, rather the people in that country should stand up and fight for real Judiasm.
Can you tell me the second most populated country in the middle east containing Jews after Israel ?
Yes, Iran.
Can you tell me the only country with Israeli diplomats with a parlimentary say ?
Yes, Iran.
Watch this clip of iranian president visiting Jews in New York Below is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XAeqtY7Sk
CATCH22 Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
two sides of same coin
john brown Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:00 am
one more…which is the country that had a candle light vigil past year for 9/11 ? israel ?–nope. it was Iran
FreedomLover Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
I believe that might have been in the movie “Schindler’s List”.
When people lose all hope, they will quietly submit to death rather than endure any more of the hell they are being forced to live.
I am spending my time on this site to bring people the hope of the gospel of Jesus Christ. He is the only hope for this insane world we’re inhabiting.
IKE WAS RIGHT Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
It isn’t just the jews of the early twentith century, the native americans who put up a brave fight in this country have been completely negated, forced onto reservations, and robbed of there moral center. To be successful it comes down to what I call the three o’s
Organization
ordnance
oppurtunity
ZeE Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:53 am
http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/1_cole.wmv
Wideawake08 Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 2:29 am
LISTEN…DO YOU WANT THE TRUTH ON THE HOLOCAUST?????
If NOT, then remain in ignorance and DO NOT READ ON!
If you want to know scientific proof it was exaggerated to steal Palestine for the Rothschilds???
Then watch this 7 part series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bScdXLfZY
If you choose NOT To WATCH IT..Then stop posting ignorant nonsense!
June 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
HERE: Stream and Download ALL the best interviews and rants from the Alex Jones Show Archives:
http://alex-jones-archives.politicsfiles.info/
TODAY:
- Max Keiser:Audit The Fed Baby!
- Alan Watt:Architects Behind The Illuminati
- Luke Rudkowski:We Will Never Stop!
Backup your favorite episodes, don’t miss any!
john brown Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:01 am
thank you so much — this is great !
June 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
how can we have a world govt if we dont have the world? of course they’re goin in!
of course they’re goin in!
of course they’re goin in!
of course they’re goin in!
the only questions are when & how.
June 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Obama said he will complete the next 100 days work in 72 days. That is esoteric language saying it will be done minus one moon cycle which these moon worshiping occultists understand. That Air France jet was full of Chinese businessmen trying to buy iron ore and rubber from Brazil to mobilize their one million troops with their new Hummer company they bought off GM bankruptcy. That Jet was shot down by the Illuminati because these Chinese are not to have the raw material. World War III is already on folks that is why the Chinese bought Hummer, the chinese slaves or the jobless middle class are not in the market for a gas guzzler.
Max Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Watch out for another false flag at the end of the second 100 days which is early July.
jackpontiac Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
TOTAL CROCK OF s---! MAX!
The Civilian model is called the Hummer. It is being Discontinued and it is a POS ANYWAY!
The MILITARY Model is called the HUMVEE. It is NOT being Dicontinued. It is the REAL THING, whereas people that drive hummers are just EXTREMELY INSECURE! If you don’t believe me,ask a Military Man about the HUMVEE!
Max Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
You missed the point man, China is preparing for war, so is the rest of the world. These bastards in the RAND corporation want a war. You are simple if you can’t see that converting the product to military is only a snap of a finger away.
Patrick Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Do you have a source on that, or is it speculation?
Max Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:57 am
A researcher on the Illuminati is the source, not my speculation and was broadcast to the world Saturday. Do your own research and you will see.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Even the CIA reports said it’d take them 9-10 years to even begin to be a possible nuclear threat.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
US is assisting Iran and needs Iran in AfPak.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I’m not sure which 1 of you is the most ignorant.
josh Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
if iran did in the united states what US and British intelligence did in Iran in 1953…
Operation Ajax
then iran would be a lot scarier.
Schnulli Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Iran doesn’t need to do that to us. I have a feeling that whoever did that in Iran is doing the same to us. It has been going on for a couple of decades. Started sometime in the 60s. Here’s an extended version of a clip you might already know:
utoob dotcom slash watch (stuff) DxnpujfanUM
June 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Iran didn’t invade or attack any other country in the last 200 years… To this day, they DON’T have any nuclear weapon.
USA overthrew or attempted to overthrow the government of more than 50 countries since the end of WW2.
30 of those countries were bombed in the process.
Israel is one the most aggressive country in the world, calling “antisemitism” any critic.. They have 200 nukes.
Iran is a brutal dictatorship, it is true.
But Iran as as huge jewish community, settle in Iran since 600 before Christ. They are not attacked by the Iran government
Israel recently offer them to leave Iran and come to Israel, offering a few thousand dollars insentive…
The jewish community of Iran refused, and will stay in Iran.
That’s pretty much what people should know concerning the Iran threat.
Dave Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
That’s a good point,there are 15,000 Jews living and thriving in Tehran and they won’t even leave for the promises of the Israeli bribes!(it doesn’t make Israel’s story sound compelling about Iran “hating Jews” if these folks are still living there).
Israel has a little PR problem with this nagging issue…
mash Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Seb, thank you for your righteous comment. Iran treats its Jews better than Israel treats its Muslims. Remember the 10,000 children of Arab, Persian and non-europeans who were massively over X-Ray’d when entering Israel. That sounds like a Nazi move to me. So much of Israel’s behavior is Nazi like. They are a cancer in the middle east and an outpost of imperialism. Look at all the death and destruction at their hands. If they wanted to befriend their neighbors than things would have been fine but as long as they murder, lie, cheat and steal then people will hate them.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I’m more afraid of deer ticks.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I also agree with Max. Something not kosher here and definately something strange about that Air France flight.
Princess Zelda, your highness, the first two mushroom clouds came from you know who ? Next, don’t ever imagine for one second that the United States is always innocent and the victim. USA has built many of these so called evil countries from the ground up and there dicatators including. It’s time to be smarter then the elitist, to wake up. Being dumb has always been the biggest weapon used by the Elitists against the sheeple.
FreedomLover Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
acl, if zelda is a troll causing dissention in the ranks, it works pretty well. If “she” is real, then she’s a brainwashed elitist who never had any hope of being truly alive.
rogdix Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Agree. Can’t believe how many folks here assume “Princess Zelda” is female, – or an approximation thereto. C’mon folks. Female? Male? Dumb kid? Two or more people? A troll? A non-person? Who cares?
Stop responding to foul-mouthed garbage on Alex’s sites. Then maybe the rest of us can make some progress. (You can also pick up “Zelda’s” other handles if you read carefully.)
Use your brains guys and gals.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Well, she complains exactly like only a female can complain after a couple years of marriage and a divorce being around the corner – so that’s a no brainer.
We care, because Zelda is probably the only person around here who believes in government issued conspiracy theories. If – or should I say when – we can convince Zelda then we have won. Victory is near! FreedomLover and rogdix, please join us in our efforts to free Zelda from the grip of her evil NWO bosses. We can consult Zelda on how to transition from a paid troll to a productive member of the workforce instead of just feeding of our (dwindling) taxes. Let’s make her an example of how even a paid troll can become a productive member of society. Ok?
FreedomLover Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I’ve about had it with the wilfully ignorant. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one comes to the Father, except His way. He said it, I accepted it years ago, and I am secure in my relationship with Him.
“Men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil.” They think if they have the cover of secrecy they can get away with whatever they want. But even the dark is light to God. He sees everything. Just because He hasn’t stomped them flat does not mean He is blind. It means He is longsuffering and patient, wanting them to repent. But they laugh in His face, thinking that either He doesn’t exist, or if He does, that He doesn’t care. They ridicule, reject and abuse His followers and shake their fists in His face. Just as they did at Calvary.
People just don’t “get it”. True Christianity is a relationship with Jesus, not a “religion”. Religion is a system of do’s and don’ts. There is only one way that leads to life, and there are few that will find it (although they number in the millions). Multiplied millions and billions are following their own way, except it’s not their own way, it’s one of many deceptive ways presented to them by Lucifer as a viable alternative.
Yes, I’m narrow-minded. Jesus said the way was narrow that leads to life. So I’m on the narrow way. This is not my opinion, it’s HIS WORD. He is right and He has the authority to say who is allowed into His heaven. It’s blasphemy to think and act like “Jesus is ok for some people, but I’ll get to heaven my own way.” That kind of arrogance will land them in hell. God sacrificed His one and only Son who didn’t deserve to die, for scumbags like us. Jesus didn’t give up. God is not giving up, and He has not given me the option to turn my back on stupid people either, much as I get so freaking fed up with the idiocy of self-centered dirt bags. And there are times I’m stupid, so I’m no better than anyone else, just one beggar telling another where I found the bread of life.
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Yeah that flight was offed for some reason, but to kill Chinese
going to Brazil for rubber?
I mean they have all those container ships and the internet;
not to mention regular telephones besides…
Couldn’t they just ORDER however many shiploads of rubber,
etc. WITHOUT flying everybody concerned to South America?
We don’t think the REAL reason the plane was blown up has
surfaced yet. Perhaps the American geologist who was on it
was going to blow the whistle about ALL THE NEW OIL
they have found.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
STIFLE! EDITH!
June 7th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Leave pigs alone and start dealin’ with all this human trash !!!
June 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Can you suck a fart out of your unwashed ass ( and croack ?!? )
June 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It all depends !!! If Iran can gather enough donkeys to shlepp missiles near the borders , it could
get messy !!!
mash Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Sir douche bag,
Most Iranians are far more intelligent then a scumbag like you. f--- off
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I don’t doubt that !!! It’s your level of intelligence that worries me !!!
P.S. Grab what’s called a dictionnary , and look up the word ” sarcasm ” !!! See , sarcasm
( and good info ) keeps truthers alive in the face of an ocean of s--- !!! It’s also called
” gallows humor “!!!
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Besides , relying on donkeys ( which I doubt very much an ” advanced ” country like Iran
would need to do ) is not a sign of lack of intelligence in my book !!!
See , for me , industrial “advancement ” and rampant utilitarianism is actually a big step backwards , and means being dependant from artificial resources as well as spending time
and energy slaving away at nefarious / polluting works , instead of making spiritual progress
which would be vastly more important !!!
P.S. You seemingly cannot fathom where I’m coming from !!!
Chips Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
lol. Yeppers. And if the missiles were to ignite, it could get even messier.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Just imagine if they put warheads on…
Chips Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:38 am
The donkeys or the missiles?
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Can a donkey reach Europe from Iran? We might have to alter our threat assessments.
Chips Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 7:31 am
lol. Yes, a donkey can reach Europe from Iran. It just takes a little while. Our assessment would basically remain the same; the threat is the jackasses arming the global donkeys.
bhuddamonk Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Hey dont make fun of iranian donkeys, the way the bankers and the federal government are screwing us, we will be transporting tomahawk missiles via donkey here real soon too…
ZeE Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:18 am
How ignoramus do you have to be, the country hold one of the oldest civ on the planet and brought most of the arts and sciences and Law. go and read a bit more you………….
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:37 am
There is no ” one of the oldest civilization on the planet ” bull !!! All ” civs ” come from the
vedic system still in place 5000 years ago under Emperor Yuddihstira ( and very long
before that ) !!! The Persians may have contributed a couple good things to mankind , but
they have serious problems these days with issues like stoning women for very dubious
reasons , like them getting raped , while the rapist(s) go scott free !!!
P.S. Ignoramus yourself !!!
jenghiz khan Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Sorry but the hindu-kush civ came from africa–menoe (ethiopia {KUSH} to be exact) which was source of egypt as well
it isnt admitted often but ethiopia is the oldest known civilization not china not hindustan not persia
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Sorry to rain on your parade , shatter some deep seated illusions of grandeur ,
and probably bruise your ego , but ALL races and ” civilizations ” came originally from
” Bharat-Varsha ” ( India ) , and the world was ruled from Hastinapur ( “The City of
Elephants ” ) now New Delhi , for hundreds of thousands of years !!!
idi amin Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
whatever floats your boat–read the book “wonderful ethiopians of the ancient kus---e empire” by drusilla dunjee houston and get a clue
she cites english speaking european anthropologists throughout who all bear witness to the fact that the first civilizations came from ancient kush i.e. ethiopia and migrated down the nile and further north in to india
enjoy the read and cure the hatred if possible—hatred doesnt change the truth
just makes it more difficult to accept
idi amin Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 12:00 am
thats why its called the hindu-KUSH civilization–and thats why the hindus are black
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 4:37 am
I can also give you lists of people who would back up what I’m sayin’ !!!
P.S. Hatred ?!? What hatred ?!? I think you’re dreaming !!!
ZeE Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 5:57 am
I suppose small dick like you give females freedom so they can be raped or put in to prostition. Ye are Ignoramus as you talk about civ when USA is barley grown(200 to 300 years) and yes if you had any education, you would have read about Korosh our first King that was givin the tiltle by the jews as the messiah. First decleration of human rights were written by him. please educate yourself if you going to mouth off s---.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I don’t think women that already have to wear potatoe sacs , and get raped anyway , should be stoned to death , especially if the rapist(s) go scott free !!! What does that
have to do with encouraging prostitution , are you nuts ?!?
I’m not talking about or from the U.S. in this case , you are !!!
You think you’re the navel of the world , with your messiahs , but your king Korosh’s
big ” human rights declaration ” is like discovering cold water !!! So what ?!? Piss off !!!
Chips Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Judging by the plethora of state-sponsored murder, thievery, intolerance and war throughout history, civilization hasn’t really been civilized. I mean, just look at our “representatives” and the corporations that nurture them.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
It stopped being civilized about 5000 years ago !!!
June 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Archie Bunker here. You are a MEATHEAD from the NECK UP!
DOSE Mushroom Clouds wont make it as far as 704 Houser Street in Queens
June 7th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
http://911essentials.com says …. boooooo scary scary … be afraid you uninformed slaves making 6 figures!
911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.
June 7th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
All of this propaganda has been placed in the US media at the insistance of our ally(not) Israel.
Let’s not forget that after 911 there were huge candlelight vigils held in Iran for our victims,while we had Israeli’s dancing in the streets of New York.
June 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
princess zelda you are a jackass you have s--- in your brain i be wasting my time even talking to you
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:00 am
That’s mean! She’s just trying to eke out a living by trolling around. Be a little more generous with your tax money. Zelda most likely has some kids to feed. As a caring soccer mom, she is allowed to sell out our future and her kids’ future to protect us all from the threats her bosses are creating.
June 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
read the facts you stupid warmongering bitch. The NIE said they stopped their nuclear weapons program in 2003 even though they could use a couple for defense from the warmongers and your ilk. You are a loser bitch without morals who writes deplorable comments just to arouse hatred.
June 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
America is a land of snakes and reptiles,all manner of filth breeds there,your lies and self worship will turn on you when Israel decides to bomb the crap out of your homo loving country,and bury your interracial,indoctrinated,bisexual,deciet loving asses in napalm and ‘fire from above’! Israel has no master but it will turn around and bite you anyway!Now go watch your filth on tv and stop f---ing with things you dont understand!
June 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
white men brought us to the point
June 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
the holocaust was completely exaggerated so the jews could play the sympathy card with it w/e they wanted.6 million did not die, its a LIE. they want people to forget they killed my lord Jesus Christ. but true Christians like me will never forget and devout catholics like Mel Gibson wont either
davidicke.com
Awake Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
True Christian like you? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS COMPLICIT IN THE MURDER OF JEWS DURING THE HOLOCAUST. HE MADE A DEAL WITH HITLER! OF COURSE YOU BELIEVE THE LIES OF THE ANTICHRIST RELIGION!
NatureBoy Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
reason im not catholic stupid…lol
Chips Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
So true Christians really don’t forgive?
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:09 am
They will forgive, but they won’t forget. That’s not me, only speaking for the true Christians here.
Learn to read, then you don’t need me to explain what he wrote.
Chips Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I can read, but I may have misinterpreted NatureBoy’s post; I took it as vengeful.
Chips Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I’m curious. What exactly does it mean to never forget that the Jews killed Jesus Christ, unless it implies some sort of grudge? Assuming “the Jews” (every single one of them?) killed Christ, none of them are alive anyway.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I didn’t claim to know who killed Jesus or whether he was “killed” by anyone. Was just making a comment about the Christian value system in general and the logic behind it. You are right – trying to generate guilt and associate it with a large group of people has never made any sense to me either. Usually that strategy is part of some divide an conquer scheme to perpetuate a conflict/division. Thanks for pointing that out.
jenghiz khan Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
catholics are christians
June 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Dont blame Iran,i wonder if Iranians can wipe their own ass let alone build ‘the bomb’ , Iran can go visit their f---buddy Obama and discuss how next to mindf--- everyone who voted for the bastard,and i mean bastard.America is like a used tampon at this point and the world needs ‘change we can believe in’ , like a new reserve currency,America is a sickly,godless assf--- welfaring on the backs of the rest of the world,sucking the proverbial teet dry,and like a pig at the trough it slurps even when sick! Like a festering boil that needs to be lanced,i know Israel sees this as it has always been using America like a cheap whore!
June 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Dont blame Iran,i wonder if Iranians can wipe their own ass let alone build ‘the bomb’ , Iran can go visit their f---buddy Obama and discuss how next to mindf--- everyone who voted for the bastard,and i mean bastard.America is like a used tampon at this point and the world needs ‘change we can believe in’ , like a new reserve currency,America is a sickly,godless assf--- welfaring on the backs of the rest of the world,sucking the proverbial teet dry,and like a pig at the trough it slurps even when sick! Like a festering boil that needs to be lanced,i know Israel sees this as it has always been using America like a cheap whore!
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June 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
This is insane. The radical muslims and other power-hungry, hate-filled groups are the only ones crazy enough to detonate nuclear weapons. They don’t care about life. Death is their life. Along with the NWO. MAD (Mutually-Assured Destruction) is the only reason the world has not gone into nuclear war so far. Once someone pushes that first button, even accidentally, the “lucky” ones will be the ones who get incinerated instantly (but then there is the afterlife to consider as well). It will be literal hell on earth for those who survive. Think Mad Max, think “On the Beach”. We’d better all start where we are and begin in our own back yards to reach out in friendship. That is the only way, the ripple effect, that we are going to change anything. With our hearts. No one by him/herself can save the entire world. We have a powerful enemy who wants to control our lives through force and cruelty.
My pastor’s sermon this morning was on Judges 3:31, an obscure man named Shamgar who slew 600 enemies with an oxgoad. A farm implement! His points. Start with what you have, do what you can, where God has placed you. That is power, everyone doing his or her small part with what is available to them. But we’re so divided and the infighting is keeping our eyes off the real enemy.
Don’t believe MSM. They are propaganda machines, vomiting out exactly what the NWO puppeteers want heard by the public. The video was right, but it didn’t go far enough. He didn’t say who the enemy is, and he would be considered just another wack-job fearmonger with no substance in facts.
Sam Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Freedom fighter has exposed himself of being a anti muslim nazi.
idi amin Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
the muslims did not detonate nuclear weapons in august 1945—the christians did
June 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
no muslem is saying that, it is probably some warmongering retard that wants to see more people die, and he is most likely a white neo-nazi type.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:22 am
Cmon, you can’t trick us here. “Birgit” is a typical lady-muslim name. She probably runs around with a belt of explosives around her waist. Glad Zelda opened our eyes to that fact. Thanks Zelda for working overtime on weekends!
chairman mao Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
what muslim? what am i missing here? i watched the clip;wheres the muslim?
June 7th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Help me out here. I’m not a Christian, but wasn’t Jesus supposed to have been a pretty peaceful dude? I mean, it seems like a jump to go from turning over moneychangers’ booths and hitting them with sticks (do I have the story straight?) to lead in the head. Is there a missing scroll somewhere where Jesus turns into a real asshole, and you’re the only one who’s read it?
FreedomLover Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Jesus did overturn the money-changers’ tables because it offended a holy God. Chips, while there is still time, investigate His life. You’ll find that it is the only life worth living! And it is the only escape from hell that is provided. Every other “religion” is a lie. And there are many lies, but only one truth.
Start with the gospel of John.
CATCH22 Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”-Luke19.26
See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.-Is30.27
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.-Rev19.15
David Burns-Rockefeller Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Jesus is still the same Author of love He’s always been…
You know, the Guy Who says: “Love your enemies.”
It’s his psycho “followers” who have screwed up His message.
Instead of “WWJD”, (What Would Jesus Do), it’s now
“WWJK”, (Who Would Jesus Kill).
Muslims don’t worry me. Crucify me upside down but I was
even in favor of Ahminejhad (?) being allowed to visit Ground Zero.
WHY NOT? He and the rest of the Muslim people on Earth had
absolutely NOTHING to do with 9-11.
It’s the FAKE Muslims who work for this CRIMINAL GOV’T
that we’re concerned about.
Lavioso Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:29 am
hahahahahhahaha
Chips Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
FreedomLover: Actually, my life is the only life worth living, emulating whatever path I may choose, or not. To me, it seems the height of arrogance (faith?) to consider Christianity, or any other formal organization, the only … “religion”. I was only pointing out that, if you go by GARY’s post, the Jesus of today would likely be a SWAT team leader. Lavioso’s reply was about all my post was worth.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Just in case some of the “anti-Christs” here believe that “Gary” (and I don’t believe it’s the Gary that posts with a photo) is Christian. He’s not.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
ignore the trolls and haters,they wil see when the darkness falls and the light of goodness is only a shadow cast by our souls passing the stars. TRUTH IS LOUD AND CLEAR NOW!
June 7th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Princess, zelda………………………. Kill yourself then.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Your a tool, Obama is in bed with the saudies and is against Iran. But your probly not even gonna look that up, in the media over there in the middle east you get laughed at because you dont even know the diffrence between a sunni and shia ?
June 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Oh good job you zoinist scum. “itisthebeginningoftheend” is probably some troll like you trying to defame the image of Islam.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Nah, we never have trolls around here.
Sam Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Schnulli ?
Speaking of trolls !
June 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Don’t let them tell you whom to fear or hate. They could care less about Iran or the United States; it’s how they start their wars and sell their weaponry. It’s how they nurture their insanity.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
God will take care of Iran in the last days..
Sam Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:04 am
In the last days ?
Man Iran aint a bad country you fool.
June 7th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
If the globalist feel threatened by Iran then Iran must be doing something right!
Dale: the last days are here all the chess pieces are in place Iran is now surrounded by the evil empire. All that is left is the “Anointed one” Once he is in place and set up for power the prophecy Daniel was shown will be fulfilled. A new era will be sworn in and the elite will sit by the side of the Beast which will give them all of the earth to rule. They will be given the fruit from the tree of life and each shall have 5,000 slaves to do their bidding. Human Sacrifices will be offered at the Alter of peace. There will be no more wars and the elite will enjoy a eternity of bliss as every evil desire shall be fulfilled. “Do as thy Will shall be the whole of the law.” 93/93
bar abbas = son of god Reply:
June 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
U.S. has a way of ‘officially’ claiming to put sanctions on certain countries or so-called [arms] embargos and as if in a chorus, the media parrots these ‘official’ claims. The real action is behind these so-called ‘official’ claims, podium speeches and news briefs.
Sanctions & embargos are used to focus intentions and as a way to try to diminish outside involvements. Its a way of fine-tuning operations, writing the rules of the game and trying to own the chess board.
The media for years has been claiming for years that Iran and the U.S. has no official ties. Well, in part that is true; there are no so called ‘offical’ ties….out in the public ties. There are ties though and they have been consistant ties.
June 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Wake Them All Up NOW!!
http://www.warnthepeople.org
June 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
EVERYTHING is a NWO Illuminati lie, except of course the religion you were born into like your parents before you.
To all of the Christians posting here: ROMANS 13
June 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
” If the U.S. has hostile intentions towards the Iran, shouldn’t someone tell the Iranians ?”
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/docs/helping.htm#B
June 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
More on U.S. & Iran getting kissy-kissy, 9-11….
http://www.911myths.com/html/c.....osnia.html
Scroll down to ” America used Islamists to arm the Bosnian Muslims “
June 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Likely you 2 are one in the same person trying to stir up bulls---! Go play your below 50 IQ school yard games some where else!
June 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
You 1st, you bafoon!
June 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
All i can say about you is, grow up and stop acting like a child!
June 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
i agree with Zelda.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Just glad Zelda pointed us to that evil muslim within 5 minutes of that post being made.
June 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Here’s my 2 cents and my forecast… take them with a huge grain of salt.
10 world powers will eventually unite to overthrow the USA. Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Venezuela, and a few more will join in. The rest of the world is getting ready for a fight, and America is too caught up in Bootlicking and asskissing, to see that. Obama’s world Islamic tour is pissing off more people than it’s bringing under the wing, so to speak.
I say that all these guys, will eventually form a brain, and strike at America while it sees it’s leaders and it’s people as being WEAK.
IF Iran has nuclear weapons, more than likely from Kimmie Pooh in China… now I think the first action, will be to strike Israel… second strike will the the USA… kill your enemy and the friends of your enemies who have the power to attack you… aka do a first strike, while the world is crying about economics.
Iran seems to have a very smart leader in Achmenajad, and I would wager he knows, if your going to strike against a country or nation, to do it when they are the weakest.
Obama going around on a world ass kissing trip isn’t seen as strength, it’s seen as a sign of weakness… so by seeking peace, he has set up the very conditions for it’s destruction.
The flip side, the USA is missing a few nuclear weapons from a few years back… now hypothetically… let’s say we want to pull off a false flag… Iran seems a good scapegoat here… now doesn’t it?
They stole the nuclear weapons we were transporting back in 2007, and have been lying in wait… until North Korea could provide them with a missile capable of delivering the Warhead to US Soil… so that opens up a war with both countries, and a nuclear false flag will do a hell of a lot for that population control.
Either way, the American people are screwed.
June 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
The same generational families that gave you the Belgian Congo slaughters, and the Pinkerton strike busters, will give no quarter on the obvious picture of a solid first world country with only a very few barbarisms compared with our very civilized country formerly a generally prosperous one, the verge of becoming third world. We must eradicate Iran for daring to be an almost moral first world country, with social tranquility but only occasionally backward policies, compared with our taser ridden cattle prodding emerging slave state.
June 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
if we treated pigs better we wouldnt have swine flu
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Does that mean that if we treat ourselves better we won’t have human influenza anymore? I’ll try that…
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 7:09 am
And better karma !!!
June 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
typo
June 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
AIPAC controls and pulls the string of corporate media…if people are vigilant and have half a brain they will realize it is a hoax. Leave Iran alone and it will go towards revolution itself (since 10% of the population is controlling everything since they have all the guns). Learn from History and pay close attention to the rest of the world. If you people knew half as much about the former Iraqi regime instead of football, sex, and drugs you will not have Americans and Iraqis suffering as they do. Remember fool me once (911, Al-Qaeda, terrorist- excluding the G8 governments, policies, corporations, and bankers) shame on you, fool me twice (Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and the thereat to America by Sadam), fool me three times (Iran’s nuclear threat to Israel and US forces- with the exception of them attacking Iran 1st) shame on me.
June 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Media and government says that Iran has or is working on Nuke bombs.
Alternative media says they are not.
Fact is that you and me, the commoners have no idea what the truth is. You think you know but you don’t.
June 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
i dont know if anyone else has noticed this but this forum is sounding more and more like a cult. im starting to get tired of everyone preaching and fighting with each other. i think i would rather conform to the government wishes than read all the worthless talk from YOU SHEEPLE! Good Bye To You All Forever. YOU ALL ARE THE REASON WHY WE ARE ALL DOOMED IN THIS LIFE!
June 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man but the end thereof are the ways of death.
June 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Jesus Christ said I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father but by me.
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:23 am
He lied, he’s not a man, he’s the son of god.
June 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Jewish owned and run Newspapers and Publishing Houses all continuing the propaganda to get their two main enemies to fight and kill each other.
This is not a New world order.
It is the Jewish takeover of the world.
June 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
God said (speaking of Israel) I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee. america is going to turn its back on Israel and will be cursed for it. we are finished and you had better repent and trust Christ or you are headed for hell like a lead baloon.
Reply from Sam Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Israel will loose hands down, they must learn zionism is not the answer. No race is better then the other, and blaiming other religions for september 11 ? God will have his way in the end.
June 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Just remember what it says in the Bible-rough translation. You will here of wars and rumors of wars but dont let this worry you.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:05 am
We must end Zionist influence in America.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:12 am
i am so tired of the constant finger pointing going on…here in this forum, all around the world every single day in politics, in religion, the underlying themes in the film and television and media we are so obsessed with– that f---ing BRAINWASHES us and only PERPETUATES all of the hate, wars, violence, deceptions…IT’S EXACTLY WHAT OUR CONTROLLERS WANT US TO DO! KEEP POINTING! imagine what this world would be like if no religions were around throughout history to warmonger- to push their idiotic beliefs upon entire nations and peoples, no greed-fueled government’s imperialism, and no man ever wanted for anything except to live his LIFE? as soon as the first ape-man ancestor of ours decided that the easiest way to get something he wanted was to take it by force, there would never again be peace among us. NEVER. it was the beginning of the end, and that end is a long and miserably drawn out pitiful existence of an end. UNLESS EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE f---ING PLANET, ALL AT ONCE, WAKES UP! cast aside your silly idols and trinkets made of shiny metal and BE YOUR OWN DAMN GOD. take control of YOURSELF and your LIFE! don’t play into the hype. you are not better than anyone. you are not the chosen color, religion, nationality, football team, etc. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL, nor is anyone else… f--- muslims! f--- christians! f--- jews! f--- buddhists! f--- satanists! f--- religion. it was invented by POLITICIANS to herd the complacent. f--- your militarism. f--- your imperialism. f--- your witch hunts.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:17 am
i am so tired of the constant finger pointing going on…here in this forum, all around the world every single day in politics, in religion, the underlying themes in the film and television and media we are so obsessed with– that f---ing BRAINWASHES us and only PERPETUATES all of the hate, wars, violence, deceptions…IT’S EXACTLY WHAT OUR CONTROLLERS WANT US TO DO! KEEP POINTING! imagine what this world would be like if no religions were around throughout history to warmonger- to push their idiotic beliefs upon entire nations and peoples, no greed-fueled government’s imperialism, and no man ever wanted for anything except to live his LIFE? as soon as the first ape-man ancestor of ours decided that the easiest way to get something he wanted was to take it by force, there would never again be peace among us. NEVER. it was the beginning of the end, and that end is a long and miserably drawn out pitiful existence of an end. UNLESS EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE f---ING PLANET, ALL AT ONCE, WAKES UP! cast aside your silly idols and trinkets made of shiny metal and BE YOUR OWN DAMN GOD. take control of YOURSELF and your LIFE! don’t play into the hype. you are not better than anyone. you are not the chosen color, religion, nationality, football team, etc. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL! nor is anyone else… f--- muslims! f--- christians! f--- jews! f--- buddhists! f--- satanists! f--- religion. f--- militarism. f--- imperialism. f--- your witch hunt.
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Dude…It’ll never ever end!!! WTF can Humanity do??? Honestly??? Truth is my mission but, it does get tiresome. “Morituri te salutamus”(we who are about to die salute thee). I’ll not Thermally Expand further. “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
Schnulli Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:28 am
What can you expect if everybody grows up with a bipolar world view. There’s two teams in football, basketball, baseball, … . And at the end of the game none is better off than the other. So if people quit watching football and turn on Alex’ radio show, what do expect happens? They pick a camp and fight everybody outside of the camp. You have to have a little more patience with ppl.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:15 am
AND!!!!!!!! We faced a NUCLEAR THREAT from Pakistan for how many years with NO PROBLEMS?
Pfffft!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:16 am
Oh and there’s Cuba just a few miles away. But we went all the way to Vietnaaaaaaaam to stop communism. More Pffffft!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:17 am
I often wonder?
When will our troops get it. They are being led into wars they are not allowed to win?
And never will be.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:23 am
How have you prepared? Some great advice in this small video series. Being ready, exposing the hidden agenda and above all, Stand United are the keys to our freedom!
http://www.warnthepeople.org/be-prepared.html
June 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
lets dismantle Israel and fox news, this will all be over.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:15 am
GOD BLESS THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN !!!!
June 8th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Israel needs to get their zionist under control and start kissing some middle east ass. If it wasn’t for the U.S. their actions would have gotten them into a heap of trouble a some time ago. Just let Pakistan and Gaza be Pakistan and Gaza. Just because their nations tragedy was recent they can’t stop milking it for sympathy. We get it, the holocaust sucked, lots of jew where killed. So where a lot of other nations people. I am getting sick and tired of these selfish, self absorbed governments. they are like 3 year olds. Mine, mine, mine, that’s mine, I want that, gimme.
Sometimes I hope there is some huge solar flare in 2012 that knocks out all the electronics and the world goes all Mad Max. At least then we will all be free. :p
June 8th, 2009 at 2:46 am
It always comes down to one thing. Money. Follow the money.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:52 am
You are truly gone, any one can c you got one of your twisted friends to sign in like this to give a right to moth off all your hate for humanity. Shame on you.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:36 am
This is a joke, Iran depends on oil sales for most of it economy so even if they get a bomb they will not use it on no one. Its simple deterrence, the same thing we used against USSR to perfection. Look at a globe and check Iran distance to the USA, do you think they would violate 80 countries air space?? Be real you zionist shills!!!
ZeE Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Thank god some one is awake. What purpose Bombing The jews or UK or USA would do for Iran. This shows system take us as complete fools.
bar abbas = son of god Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Recall how back in 2006 the US moved to slap sanctions against Iran in regards to the banking/financial sectors ? Then the United States goes thru further contortions ( publicly anyway ) about Europe doing business with Iran ?
Well, CitiBank & Goldman Sachs just applied to open branches in Iran. This was just last week or 2 weeks ago.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a.....=351020102
June 8th, 2009 at 5:15 am
“From where I stood, I could see the volcanic mountain called DAMAVAND “in Iran” …and I was somewhere in middle of the capital, called Tehran. I couldnt see myself , but I was there and watching a man dressed in assronants all white costume , covered from head to toe with a thick hose in his hand …washing the area with a white mouse!!! !!!!!
I don’t know what they are planing .. but it must be stoped. Iran is in a big danger according to my dream..
God help us…
Death to NWO and Luciferian servants and elites
June 8th, 2009 at 5:22 am
going to say this slowly,
the elite CARE LESS for money, money is an illusion…
they ARE THE MONEY,
now since, total money supply < total money supply + interest ,
any money system with interest being charged , will eventually fail,
– watch ‘money as debt’
the elite are not into satanism and the occult for no reason, they know their master and his Enemy (God) ,
– watch ‘brotherhood of darkness’
the elite want to know they have enough control and power, before starting to kill everyone, if they killed everyone 50 years ago, they might have lost control…
countries? you STILL THINK this is about america/uk/france/germany VS russia/iran/korea
WORLD WAR II was an INSIDE-JOB, as well as WORLD WAR I, and korea, and vietnam
wake up, patriotism makes you blind, stupid symbols like flags and national anthems make you blind,
the satanic elite want you dead,
this is for your life and soul and family
God bless,
Steven
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
DreamToShare Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am
To Steve Says
God bless you steve, you said it so well. Agree with you 100%
DreamToShare Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Oh they waited and waited to make sure that they have what ever it takes to chip us first “666″ then wipe off!
Steve Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
send me a mail me on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
June 8th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Catch22, your quoting of Luke 19-26 is a prime example of not thinking before typing. Jesus is obviously telling a story about a man who sent his servants out to trade and make money. At the end of the story which is what you quoted, incorrectly i might add as its 27 not 26, he is still speaking from the noblemans point of view you goofy bastard, jesus didnt request his enemies be brought before him to be killed, the nobleman in his story did. People like you are the reason so many have a misguided sense of Jesus
June 8th, 2009 at 5:27 am
my message has disappeared, again …
watch ‘brotherhood of darkness’ and ‘money as debt’
countries, flags, national anthems, all illusions,
how blind is the patriot
awake. Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
agreed. so uhh…. where does that leave us?
June 8th, 2009 at 7:12 am
That’s right , the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra !!!
June 8th, 2009 at 7:14 am
@12 and holding
Muhaaa…:-))))
Well that was fun!
Lets have group sex….:D
Heil Discordia, Heil Eris…
June 8th, 2009 at 7:16 am
@Steven aka Agent Provocateur
Oh s---!
This federal agent still spooking around the internet!
I know who you are you bastard!
June 8th, 2009 at 7:43 am
One other thing. I am a Christian, not a Muslim in any fashion. The Muslims are in fact an offshoot from Christianity, and closer to Christianity than many other so-called cults or sects. For example, the Mormons are way far out past the Muslims in their beliefs, and the Mormons are closer to the Jews in their beliefs that they are “little gods,” as are the JWs which is another Zionist cult.
The Muslim religion today is the fastest growing religion in the world, and NOT because they go around sticking a sword in people’s face saying, “convert or die.” They are winning converts because of their lifestyle and their sincerity, because they reject the false glitter and lies of a Satanic world system, and their walk matches their talk. When people see their happy families and close community, they want to be part of it. The Koran itself, most Muslims don’t understand it or care that much about it, a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
The Muslims have adopted the essence of Christianity, or much of the essence of it, and they live it out. This is why they are winning converts in droves. And they are one of the few things standing in the way of complete world government, total tyranny, and death for most of us on this planet.
So think about that the next time you hear Joe Farrah and the so-called 501c3 government agent “Christian” pastors spewing hatred toward the Muslims and bowing at the feet of another religion, Judaism, which hates Jesus and seeks to rebuild Solomon’s Temple to house the antichrist and from which the Jews intend to rule the world and do away with the rest of us subhuman “weeds”, the goy, the unfit, the ones not so special and wonderful and “godlike” as the special chosen Jews, as they think.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Steven, I put my message up twice and it was taken down twice. I had copied that message, and I sent my message to Texe Marrs so he can see what is going on in this forum, what kind of messages are being removed. What the heck is wrong with Alex. Is he being paid off?
Texe seems to realize that something is NOT RIGHT AT INFOWARS.COM.
People can cuss, threaten murder and every other thing, rape your mother, any kind of sick thing people can say, but if anybody says anything about the T A L M U D and how it teaches hatred of non J E W S and of Jesus, then BLIP, off it goes.
It’s okay to spread vitriol and hatred against the Muslims and any other group, but do not even mention the teachings in the T a l m u d or the C a b a l a or your post will disappear.
Some of this is programmed right into the software to automatically blip you out.
Other postings are yanked by Alex’s forum police monitors, monitors who are OBVIOUSLY CORRUPT, corrupt in the same way that Alex is complaining about the NWO being corrupt.
Steven, I am with you. Your points are right on the mark, and it’s a shame they are being yanked, just like mine are.
Steve Reply:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
mail me sometime on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
June 8th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Israel is not the criminal. We jews are not getting you christians and muslims to fight. You are doing that yourself. Look at the Crusades. 600 years of fighting. The christian writers in King James time put the statement in “Synagogue of Satan” in the scriptures to turn people against us jews. Many of you christians now believe Jesus is God. He is not God. Yahweh is God. In your christian scriptures God is called Jehovah. And in the Muslim koran they call him Allah. Read Isaiah 45:22 Turn to me and gain success, all the ends of earth! For I am God, and there is none else. Abraham knew God as El-Shaddai.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:13 am
It’s nice to see that the majority of people here realize that all of the news against Iran is pure hateful propaganda that’s designed to soften up any resistance to some act of aggression by the US.
It shows that readers of INFOWARS can see thru the fog of disinformation and come to their own conclusions.
Trust nothing that comes out of your television.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:33 am
It is just another Iraq folks. All lies and deception, the greatest threat to the US is the Zionists, whether they are Israeli or something else it doesn’t matter. Don’t join the army to fight false wars based on mainstream media deception. Bring your troops home and start re building the US, leave the countries of the world to themselves. Israel will play the victim, if it isn’t Iran then someone else will be a threat, maybe Turkey. All this BS just means that Israel can continue to thieve Palestinian land and ethnic cleanse the Palestinians, the true Semites and true owners of Palestine. Weapons of mass distraction, don’t be fooled. All the stupid posts here are deliberate and mean’t to distract from the real debate. You never see anything here on the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan, or the high number of soldier suicides. Stay focused good people.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:36 am
“The Zionist regime will be wiped out soon, the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom.”
And as the Bible says too!
June 8th, 2009 at 10:04 am
The opposite is the REALITY .. you can get white FROM black (e.g., Michael Jackson, persons with vitaligo) but you can not get black FROM white. White is grafted FROM black. I can see you are uncivilized and without knowledge of self, so here, drink up.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
lol, another idiot who failed their iq test
June 8th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I spent alot of time in the Persian Gulf and I must say the truth is, The Irani always treated me with dignity and respect, which is much more than I can say for our so called “friends”.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Islam is the only major religion to not be controlled by the elite, hence the war in the middle east. We in the West have been brainwashed to fear Arabs, and are walking in the direction they want us to walk in. Especially those that are Christian, as the bible is being used to guide them to the end of their belief, as they walk with their blind faith. One world govt, with one religion will be the final result. Religion is an answer, where only questions can be asked that fit that answer, which in time severely damages ones critical thinking. There is no greater control than that. So when you control the stage, you can play out what ever acts you desire so aS to control a world that lacks critical thinking. Im not saying to not believe in God, Im saying to not believe in the men who control God
Steve Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 6:55 am
islam came from the RCC… go find out… who funded mohammeds wars?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
95% of the comments here are worthless. All religions are fantasies (do the research). AJ would do well to close down these forums. The comments here make me want to side with the NWO.
Omega Man Reply:
June 9th, 2009 at 1:25 am
It wouldn’t be good for you to join the NWO religion. Do the research. You will remain blind and unfulfilled without knowing the Truth. Learn the Truth by going to the source of all Truth. Christ Jesus. It’s your choice to remain lost or have peace and know God by knowing Jesus. Nothing right wing or left wing about it. Again, it’s your choice. Not preaching, just trying to help you understand what is going on at this time and why we are seeing the global events unfold as we are.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
lol ~@ most of the above comments.. have a fun war /starvation/infection
June 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
yeah these message boards do nothing for AJ but make him look like a right wing extremist.. chop em off holmes… these things stink
June 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Genetically speaking “white” is the ABSENCE OF ANY COLOUR; Blacks are the daddy’s of whites
Spectral colours is a different issue–not the same science as genetics because the colour ‘white’ then is not the colour of any actual person—”white” people are actually pink (lacking melanin) not white like the colour in chromatic spectrum
June 8th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
i cant belive how many rascist idiots we have on here its suprising especially since this article is a good one with no rascism, wake up people, the entire middle east has been demonized with our wars and stupid media! this whole website is for waking people up not to continue in ignorance!
the time to evlove now! there is a science to peace, educate your selfs!
the laws of attraction and the universe are upon us. we will suffer on this path america continues to take!
June 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
what happened to freedom of religion with-out persecution, i thought that was written on something bush said “was just a g*d da*m piece of paper” and how about that pledge we americans were supposed to recite every morning “with liberty and justice for all” dose that not mean anything to you religious bashing jerks thats all religions including not having one, peace to all lets get together and stop the infighting thats how our slave masters win fools
June 8th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Sorry, Brave, not the Christians I know. The US troops are under orders to go wherever they’re sent. They don’t intend to get blown up and do their best to stay alive so they can get back to their families. They know that dying is a possibility, but they don’t believe that being a martyr guarantees them 7 virgins or whatever the lie is.
Many soldiers do not come home. Many also do not know the real agenda of the NWO, and they still believe that America is worth fighting for. I myself did not understand everything and only “woke up” a few weeks ago with the CT issue and then started other research. I was an old-school patriot. And I felt very betrayed when I found out the truth. I’m still learning.
I know some Jews who want to stay out of the whole mess, and some who are Messianic. They do not want war and they do not want to see Christians and Muslims at each other’s throats. Satan wants that. He is the source of every conflict. Once we get THAT bit of truth under our belts, the rest is somewhat easier to handle.
June 8th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
You’re funny john_d.
June 9th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Jesus is about Peace and Love and Truth. The Bush crime family will have to answer to God for their roles in the crimes against humanity in the name of Christianity. Jesus never changes. If somebody comes preaching a different Jesus. Don’t follow them. Jesus is the ONLY way a human can have salvation and be forgiven of their sins. Don’t be misled by the many other False prophets that came after Jesus and elevate themselves to be worshipped. Jesus is the only Prophet that is to be worthy of worship because He was in the beginning with God, and came from God. He is God in the flesh. He overcame death by the Power of God as was prophesied all through the old testament. Open your heart to Jesus and find the peace you have been looking for. Peace
June 9th, 2009 at 2:51 am
If the Christians so-called weren’t preaching hatred and war against innocent countries full of decent families who love and serve God better than most of them do (ie the Muslims), the Muslims would not be hard to convert, because they are already so close. They do not believe that Jesus is God, but then neither do most “Christians.” I have had Bible studies with Pentacostal Christians who did not know or believe Jesus is God. I showed them in John that Jesus is the Creator, in Colossians where it says that everything consists by Jesus and that Jesus holds all things together (which tells me the atoms would go ‘poof’ if it weren’t for Jesus), pointing out that Jesus had no beginning, that he set aside his power and glory to humble himself and be born of a woman, to walk among us and grow up and die.
Most Christians do not believe this, yet they want to nuke the Muslims away because they believe that Jesus was a Prophet, that he is the Messiah, that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit, but yet claim he is not God. They do not believe Jesus died on the cross, but they do believe he was taken bodily to Heaven. Most Christians see the death of Jesus on the cross as no big deal to them really, and do not believe personally in Jesus to atone for and forgive their sins. Most Christians, so-called, do not think they owe Jesus anything but to accept a ticket to sin, all expenses paid, once saved always saved, antinomian Christianity.
The Muslims reject antinomianism, so they are more Christian than these Christians. They do not sodomize their wives, don’t cheat on their wives, don’t abort their babies, and love and treasure their children and families. They set a better example in Christianity than the so-called Christians who hate them and want to nuke them away.
Their Koran does not teach hatred of Jesus and of those who are not Muslims. The Jews however have “holy books” — the Talmud and Cabala — which teach Jewish supremacy and hatred and contempt to Jesus and to all the goy, as being subhuman creatures who it is good to lie, kill and cheat to bring about a Jewish utopia.
Michelle Obama’s brother is a Jewish rabbi. Barack Obama’s chief of staff is a dual citizen Jew, Mossad, Chicago Jewish mafia don, and BHO’s handler. He is not the friend to the Muslims. He will stab them in the back just like he stabs everybody in the back. He is a liar and a fraud. Wouldn’t it be nice if Obama really did take pity on the Muslim nations and get the West to back off, but this is definitely not the case. Obama’s job is to wipe them out, depopulate the planet, to make way for the Jews phony antichrist messiah.
June 9th, 2009 at 3:12 am
The Koran refers to Jesus as the Messiah.
Muslims believe Jesus was conceived by the Holy Ghost. The Koran (which I do not believe in the Koran because I am Christian and I see the Koran as a bogus book, but nonetheless, it does not teach hatred to Jesus) teaches that Mary went out to the desert alone to bear her child, and that God gave her water flowing from a rock, and Mary asked God what would happen to her when the men in her village asked her why she had no husband. God told her to “let the infant speak for her.” When Mary returned to the village, sure enough the men demanded to know what was going on with her having a child with no husband. The Koran says Jesus said, “Leave her alone. The Holy Spirit came upon her to conceive.” The men were bowled over to hear the infant speak thus, and ran away. I don’t believe this account at all, it is bogus, but just consider that this is what the Muslims are taught to believe, and this story, although false, does not negate Jesus at all.
Muslims also believe Jesus is coming back to defeat the antichrist and to rule the earth in the Millenium.
Muslims believe that Satan is ruling this world, which the Bible teaches that Satan is indeed the god of this world. And it should be obvious to anybody that Satan indeed is ruling this planet. The Muslims are not taken in by the glitter and lies and seducing spirits, and are able to put the value where it belongs, on family and children and community and living for God, for a future eternity, not a momentary blip on the earthly radar to throw away an eternity for a literal matrix of lies.
The Muslims do not hate us. The Jews however do hate us and despise us, enough to steal all we have, to lie to us, to enslave us. Stop and think who the real enemies are and stop waving the bloody shirt.
June 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am
Most “Christians” do not believe the Bible any more than the Muslims do. They say the Bible is full of errors, and only the so-called “originals” have the “real” Word of God — whatever the “originals” are, who knows? They use myriads of versions that all say different things, and claim to have the truth, but yet they say the truth cannot be found except in the “originals.”
Most “Christians” believe in Jesus as little or less than the Muslims do, and I’d say they believe in Him LESS not more. They do not believe that Jesus is the Creator God, that He is omnipotent, Almighty, and All-knowing and having no beginning. Rather, they think Jesus is a creation, who had a beginning, whose only function was to appear to mankind and die for our sins.
Ask most Christians if Jesus created the World and all there is and see what they say. They believe the same as the Muslims, that Jesus was a great man, that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit, that he was taken bodily to Heaven. They do NOT believe Jesus had no beginning and that Jesus is the creator of the world.
Further, their belief in Jesus’ authority over their life is that He has no such authority, that Jesus’ job is to pay for our sins while we continue to live our lives as we choose. The Muslims answer to God and try to live holy lives that are honoring to God.
The Muslims are more Christian than the phony Christians who do not have a Bible, whose own Bibles they say are riddled with error and they choose from among several versions to pick the one they like the sounds of the most. Do the Muslims have 100 versions of the Koran to pick and choose from?
The Bible says we are responsible for what we know, not for what we don’t know. If the Muslims are living in obedience to the truth they have, then that makes them more righteous than Christians who have the Bible and reject it, say it’s full of errors except for some ethereal “originals” that nobody can tell you what they are or where they are, or be able to understand them even if we did have them in our hand– “Christians” who think they can pick and choose from their iffy Bibles as they like, who believe the same way the Muslims do as to Jesus being God, and who can’t even see the danger of the Jewish antichrist messiah and want to help them build a temple to house the antichrist. The Muslims are not so stupid or gullible to fall for that one, or for the rest of the delusions and fantasies and matrix of lies spun by Satan, who is, as the Bible says, the god of this world.
I’ve lived next door to Muslim people, and they were a delight. I’ve never, ever known a Muslim person who was a sneaky evil person, never known a Muslim who hated anybody. I can see why the Palestinians hate the Jews in Israel. After all, the Jews came in and massacred them, stole their lands and homes, and sent them into refugee camps and into Gaza, a place the Jews occupy and are now shock and aweing. They torture and kill and starve the Palestinians. Why wouldn’t they hate them?
As to the suicide bombings, after what I’ve learned about the infiltration of the CIA and British Intelligence, not to mention the Mossad, how they set up the school shootings and 9/11 and Oklahoma to blame it on others, how they provacateur, knowing how they practice torture and mind control, I would not be surprised if someday we find out all the suicide bombers were programmed by our own CIA, British Intelligence and the Mossad to get sympathy from the world for the Jews, give them an excuse to blow up the planet and to hate the Muslims.
Why would anybody believe ANYTHING we read or hear in the Zionist controlled media? Answer me that one.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:42 am
Check out the documentary by the young Muslim genius filmmaker Noreagaa
http://www.islamictorrents.net.....p?id=16927
This is very, very long, about 8 hours. I could not stop watching it. Exposes the lies of Disney, Hollywood, the whole matrix, and at the end it describes the beliefs of the Muslims. This man’s love of God is apparent throughout the film.
Another good place to find out about the Muslims is through Walter Veith. Google him online. He has a lot about the history of the Muslim religion, that it is an offshoot of Catholicism, and usually mosques will be found located nearby to Catholic cathedrals.
Christians will never convert one single Muslim until we repent of our own sins and reach out to them in love and not hatred. If I were a Muslim, I would want NOTHING to do with any Christian. But the Muslims say that we are not to blame, that we have been lied to and deceived, and they don’t hold our hatred and prejudice toward them against us for that reason.
This is what breaks my heart the most, that the Muslims are willing to forgive and understand, even while we send soldiers to blow them up.
Watch this documentary, and then watch the hatred you have for the Muslims melt away, never to return again. (btw, this series does not discuss the Jews or their beliefs at all)
June 9th, 2009 at 5:44 am
I forgot to mention the documentary series link I posted above is for the film series called
The Arrivals.
http://www.islamictorrents.net.....p?id=16927
June 9th, 2009 at 6:36 am
“On Wednesday, Ahmadinejad reiterated his anti-Israel stance and called the Holocaust a ‘big deception. The Iranian president had earlier made similar comments about the historical event describing it as a ‘myth’.” (Source: “Obama invites Ahmadinejad to visit Nazi-era camp.” http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a.....=351020101 Press TV. June 5 2009.) What we don’t have is the context. Was Ahmadinejad saying that there is zero truth concerning Nazi concentration camps where mass murders took place? Was he saying that the whole thing is a myth or just aspects of it and meaning that it has been exaggerated? These details are not clear from the article, which is from Iran. However, which candidate for Iranian President is Press TV backing? Furthermore, in his speech at the recent United Nations World Conference on Racism, Ahmadinejad said, “After World War II, under the pretext of Jewish suffering and by taking advantage of the holocaust, they used aggression and military force to turn an entire nation into refugees. And they transplanted people from Europe, the United States and other parts of the world into their land, establishing a thoroughly racist government in occupied Palestine.” In truth, one must note that he said, “…taking advantage of the holocaust.” Now, that’s not denial. It certainly does though leave room for doubting the numbers of victims. It is not though a blanket denial of Nazi atrocities. Which major American corporate journalist has done an exhaustive interview with Ahmadinejad concerning exactly what he thinks? I haven’t seen any. They claim he said this or that, but they don’t ask him probing and direct questions about Nazis, Jews, and extermination, not that we shouldn’t expect he might fudge his answers. He’s quite capable of thinking on his feet and not being trapped. That’s clear from the few interviews we do have.
June 9th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Tom Usher, what if Ahmadinejad believes the Holocaust never happened at all.
Does that mean we go nuke Iran?
What about all the people who were killed under Lenin (a Jew) or a result of Marx’s writings (a Jew), the millions of people who have died under communist tyranny, a movement started by the Jews, Trotsky and Lenin and Marx? Huh?
What does Ahmadinejad’s opinion of the Holocaust have to do with WWIII and blowing up millions, even billions of innocent people?
Do the Jews fancy themselves so wonderful and superior and godlike that anybody who questions their sad story about the Holocaust needs to immediately die?
Get a grip.
Is Ahmadinejad not allowed to have anything but lovely thoughts about the Jews? Is it a crime worthy of death to hate Judaism?
Because if it is, then count me guilty, because I truly hate Judaism. It is one of the most evil religions on the face of the earth, right up there with Anton LaVey’s Satanic Bible and Scientology and the rest of the New Age religions that tell people they are little gods.
No wonder the Jews are so hateful and murderous. They are taught from childhood out of the Talmud and Cabala to have big swelled up heads about their special selves and that the rest of us are subhuman vermin worthy of death, that it is good to lie to us and cheat us and steal from us.
They hate us all, call the women shiksas, meaning an animal in heat, and what the Talmud says about Jesus I won’t repeat (because if I do the software will blip out my post).
Maybe you should be worrying more about what the Jews think about Ahmadinejad and the rest of us, and less about what Ahmadinejad thinks of the Jews, since Israel has at least 400 nukes and is itching to use them and Ahmadinejad has zilch —
Get real.
June 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Zelda, its obvious your time has been spent playing video games and not living in the real world. One of the founding principles of this country is the freedom to practice different religions. To propose the banning of any muslim from entering this country is draconian at best. Whos next, all the people who don’t embrace Jesus?
Just by your shallow minded response you are the “dumb american” I hear all my european friends laugh about.
June 10th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Zelda is a fat slag
June 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
@ Just the Truth
I’ve never seen a reaction to any comment of mine anywhere on the Internet or on my blog where anyone has ever jumped to more false conclusions than you have here. It’s amazing.
Well, let me answer. I’ll put your questions/statements in quotes and try to be gentle.
Question: “Tom Usher, what if Ahmadinejad believes the Holocaust never happened at all. Does that mean we go nuke Iran?”
Answer: No
Question: “What about all the people who were killed under Lenin (a Jew) or a result of Marx’s writings (a Jew), the millions of people who have died under communist tyranny, a movement started by the Jews, Trotsky and Lenin and Marx? Huh?”
Answer: They shouldn’t have died. Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky were wrong.
Question: “What does Ahmadinejad’s opinion of the Holocaust have to do with WWIII and blowing up millions, even billions of innocent people?”
Answer: If he isn’t saying it, it shows that those who know better (know he isn’t) are liars. If they will lie about that, why trust them. (That’s rhetorical, hence no question mark.) The idea is to show the lies of the liars to the gullible so they won’t be taken in. Of course, this issue is far from the only place the propagandists are at work. It just happens to be one where I was here and commented. I happen to know that Ahmadinejad doesn’t believe that no Jews were murdered in the concentration camps. He is though a politician who gauges how his words will be received by his supporters. I’m not just concerned about “Americans.” If millions of Jews were exterminated, don’t all Iranians deserve to know that rather than being misled (rhetorical). Your handle is “Just the Truth.” Let it be for everyone. If you will re-read the post above, you will see that the author, William Blum, raised the issue of Ahmadinejad and Holocaust denial. I think he had a good point. I support the thrust of his post. I’m simply building on it. If that offends you, so be it.
Question: “Do the Jews fancy themselves so wonderful and superior and godlike that anybody who questions their sad story about the Holocaust needs to immediately die?”
Answer: Some do (fancy themselves).
Statement: Get a grip.
Reply: Well, considering you jumped to all sorts of false conclusions, I really don’t need to address that.
Question: “Is Ahmadinejad not allowed to have anything but lovely thoughts about the Jews?”
Answer: No
Question: “Is it a crime worthy of death to hate Judaism?”
Answer: No
Statement: “Because if it is, then count me guilty, because I truly hate Judaism. It is one of the most evil religions on the face of the earth, right up there with Anton LaVey’s Satanic Bible and Scientology and the rest of the New Age religions that tell people they are little gods.”
Reply: Okay
Statement: “No wonder the Jews are so hateful and murderous. They are taught from childhood out of the Talmud and Cabala to have big swelled up heads about their special selves and that the rest of us are subhuman vermin worthy of death, that it is good to lie to us and cheat us and steal from us.”
Reply: I’ve seen it. I wasn’t born yesterday. Not all Jews subscribe. Jesus was/is a Jew for instance. He’s a different kind. They aren’t all the same you know. You aren’t one of those Nazi Jesus-was-an-Aryan people are you?
Statement: “They hate us all, call the women shiksas, meaning an animal in heat, and what the Talmud says about Jesus I won’t repeat (because if I do the software will blip out my post).”
Reply: I’ve read what it says.
Statement: “Maybe you should be worrying more about what the Jews think about Ahmadinejad and the rest of us, and less about what Ahmadinejad thinks of the Jews, since Israel has at least 400 nukes and is itching to use them and Ahmadinejad has zilch —”
Reply: I’ll forgive you for having started off jumping to false conclusions. That last statement of yours is just a continuation of jumping to false conclusions. I endeavor to remember to say “some Jews” rather than lumping all Jews together, as if they are all Avigdor Lieberman. You’d be wise to do the same. Sprinkle it in. You’ll get farther. You do realize that there are Jews who denounce fascism and the Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu, right? You do know that the reason we know that Israel has nukes is because of a great Christian Jew, Mordechai Vanunu, right?
Statement: Get real.
Reply: A real thing to do is to consider various ways things can be taken before going on the attack. I realize you are passionate about these issues, but you do need to take care. Carelessness is harmful. You are accusing “the Jews” of being careless. Take care not to continue falling into hypocrisy. We all need to take care. I include myself.
Peace to all.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Tom Usher: Thanks for your response. I see I was way too hard on you and that you were trying to expose the liars who are twisting the words of Ahmadinejad to incite a conflagration, and you were not putting undue importance on his words, as I jumped on you for, but that others are doing so. However, by getting down to their level and being willing to nitpick about who said what and why and if they meant thus and so, you are, in my opinion, furthering the idea that what a Muslim leader says regarding his opinion of the Jews is grounds for anything or is newsworthy in any sense. My point is that Ahmadinajad can say anything he wants, but he has nothing to back up his words except Russia. The Muslims have no weapons.
I have no quarrel with any of your responses except for this one which I’ll respond to.
Statement: “No wonder the Jews are so hateful and murderous. They are taught from childhood out of the Talmud and Cabala to have big swelled up heads about their special selves and that the rest of us are subhuman vermin worthy of death, that it is good to lie to us and cheat us and steal from us.”
Reply: I’ve seen it. I wasn’t born yesterday. Not all Jews subscribe. Jesus was/is a Jew for instance. He’s a different kind. They aren’t all the same you know. You aren’t one of those Nazi Jesus-was-an-Aryan people are you?
Actually, I see Judaism as a religion, not a race. The only genetics the Bible seems to care about is the lineage of Jesus himself. This is because it pertains to the fulfilment of prophecy. Same as Jesus riding on a donkey into Jerusalem is a fulfilment of prophecy. This doesn’t mean we make an idol out of donkeys or put any particular importance on donkeys. The lineage of Jesus is also important in demonstrating that God kept his promise to Abraham, that his seed (Jesus) would be a blessing to all the nations.
Unfortunately, the Jews think THEY are the blessing to the nations, and the physical Jews (ie those who practice Judaism) are ANYTHING BUT A BLESSING. They are a curse, not only to themselves but to the rest of the world as well.
Today’s Jews have all kinds of genetic make-ups, and from what I understand very few people who practice Judaism have any genes going back to Abraham. There are many Christians who get into geneology and become delirous when they discover somehow that they can trace themselves back to so and so from one of hte tribes. The Bible says to stay away from that stuff, and that God is interested in our hearts, not our parents, or our genetic makeup.
The Palestinians have more genetic markers from Abraham than anybody.
Judaism is an antichrist religion on a par with Anton LaVey’s Satanic Bible, and why we must be forced to support the people who practice this religion (Talmud and Cabala), whose whole religion is centered around hatred of Jesus and his followers, when our Constitution strictly forbids the government establishing a state religion — this is WRONG. Why must this antichrist religion of Judaism be the state religion of the United States, why must we wage war against everybody the Jews hate, bleed and die and pay and pay, for these evil things?
That’s my point, one point anyway.
I’m not a racist. We are all descended from the same two people, Adam and Eve. I don’t believe in a caste system. I believe everybody should be allowed to live in peace and nobody deserves to be able to take away what another person has because they fancy themselves to be somehow superior in their genes or who their parents were, whatever.
The Bible is full of examples of the horrible things the Jews did. Soon as Moses went up on the mountain to meet with God, the Jews started orgying and worshipping Baal. The Bible doesn’t say God picked the Jews to reveal himself to so intimately because they are such wonderful people. Not at all. The Old Testament has many, many words of God calling them stubborn, unfaithful, stiffnecked and proud.
Revelation says Jerusalem in the last days is compared to “Sodom and Egypt” and warns of the Synagogue of Satan. Jesus told the Pharisees that they were a den of vipers and their father was Satan and said they killed all the prophets and ignored the word of God and were into the traditions of men instead. Nothing has changed with them that I can see.
And from what you said in your post above, I don’t think you probably disagree with what I’ve said here, so please accept my apology, once again.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:59 am
@ Just the Truth
It is refreshing that you apologized. Of course, apology accepted. I do know how passions can take us right to the edge. Some fall in.
You wrote, “However, by getting down to their level and being willing to nitpick about who said what and why and if they meant thus and so, you are, in my opinion, furthering the idea that what a Muslim leader says regarding his opinion of the Jews is grounds for anything or is newsworthy in any sense.”
I disagree on several fronts. First, I’m not interested in nitpicking but in asking him directly, openly, and honestly what he thinks. Ahmadinejad has called for debates several times. Saddam Hussein did the same. There is a trick of “not dignifying” such calls. It is a cowardly act designed to keep the people in the dark. Ahmadinejad is out for hearts, minds, and souls for Mohammed, not Jesus. If there were a debate and he were to lose (and that would clearly depend upon whom he would be debating), then Muslims the world over would benefit immensely, as would Ahmadinejad himself. Second though is the fact that were Ahmadinejad truly calling for militarily wiping out Israel based on the current circumstances and just the moment he could attain the weaponry to do so, it would be news. The sweep of your statement appears to be saying not to give those who are fascists who are leading Israel any points even when the points are clearly valid. The world as they are painting it is unreal. They are painting a false picture. Ahmadinejad is not a perfect being by any stretch, but he’s not stupid (in the relative sense) and Iranians are not interested in committing national suicide. There are Iranians who chant death to Israel and death to America. There are Israelis and Americans who do the same vis-a-vis Iran. Those people are facilitated by not “dignifying” Benjamin Netanyahu’s statements that it’s 1938 and Ahmadinejad is Hitler. No, we must call Netanyahu to substantiate his claims via more than sound bites. Letting the whole world rush headlong into war after war while refusing to insist upon longer News segments is folly. Look at the length of your reply to me and mine to you. We’ve spoken more back and forth than Obama and Ahmadinejad or Netanyahu and Ahmadinejad. Did George W. Bush ever even speak to Saddam Hussein? He certainly never would have debated him in the open because, frankly, he would have lost that debate but Saddam would have been hugely forced to moderate to live up to avoid further hypocrisy after going down the laundry list of things he knew about the inner workings of Empire in the outlying regions, such as Iraq was at the time.
Look at how the U.S. executing Japanese soldiers for waterboarding has resurfaced and why.
Bush wanted Saddam tried in Iraq by a kangaroo court on side charges and then dead as quickly as possible so he couldn’t spill his guts about the Empire’s supplying him with the very chemical weapons they ostensibly tried and hanged him for using. Saddam was a CIA creation.
Ahmadinejad knows his history. He lived through the Iran-Iraq War as an adult. He knows who supplied whom and with what. The US was wrong to overthrow Mohammed Mosaddeq in 1953. It was wrong to install the Shah. It was wrong to train SAVAK. It was wrong to wink and nod and encourage torture. I would rather have been poor as a nation than rich in mammon and having done those utterly evil things.
You also wrote, “The Muslims have no weapons.” No, that’s incorrect. Iran has weapons. Iran has some of the fastest and deadliest torpedoes for instance. The other Muslim nations with oil money to burn have purchased plenty of weaponry. Pakistan is Muslim and is a nuclear power. In addition, you appear to be severely underestimating the Russians. The Russians have an uncanny ability to counter American weaponry. Israel pulled out of Lebanon on account of Russian weapons defeating American tanks. It’s a fact. In addition, you are ignoring China. China, Russia, and Iran are cooperating. China has made huge strides in the technological realm and certainly can now compete with the U.S. in manufacturing. I’m not saying these things as some chess player on this level. It’s a mundane realm. That’s not where I engage. Nevertheless, they are mundane facts and the Pentagon does deal on that level despite its fervent desire to be able to simply think and have its will be done without exception.
You wrote, “…when our Constitution strictly forbids the government establishing a state religion — this is WRONG. Why must this antichrist religion of Judaism be the state religion of the United States, why must we wage war against everybody the Jews hate, bleed and die and pay and pay, for these evil things?”
The supporters of Israel would say that the support is not for the religion but for the secular. The Zionists who pled with the British Empire for land (Uganda and elsewhere) were atheists by and large. Herzl was an atheist. The Biblical rationale didn’t come up until much later. You won’t be able to substantiate that Jewishness is not DNA but religious. Jewishness isn’t even either according to many, many claiming Jewishness. A non-ethnic Jew can become a member of Judaism and his or her child can then be an atheist. This is partly distracting though.
It was a nasty and wrong thing that the Empire (then British) did and that the U.S. upheld. Ahmadinejad is right about that.
The U.S. uses Israel too. The U.S. has around 800 known bases around the world. Israel is part of the Empire, but empires change. The fact that the U.S. has such a large Jewish population that is so commercially oriented is critical to understanding. Jesus cleaned the temple of the moneychangers. The powers that be at the time hated him for that and the other things he did that were upsetting their set-up. They still hate him on those terrible grounds.
That’s the issue. The answer isn’t in killing all Jews or any Jews. I speak to those who would. I say it for the sake of those who are unsure and might be tempted to fall into that antichrist mentality. I say it so others may echo it.
You’re a civil libertarian. You believe in the Bill of Rights. Many Americans don’t hold with it. Is that treason? Well, what would Jefferson do? He’d fight a civil war/revolution to decide it. I don’t hold with violence. That won’t make me popular around here. I’m not interested in being popular though. I’m interested in being right. I don’t hold with Jefferson. He was a deist, humanist, and hugely hypocritical. He was a son of the so-called Enlightenment that has resulted in this dark age — growing darker even as many are seeing more light in their own lives and hearts. This was prophesied too.
You said, “I’m not a racist.” Excellent. Now, just focus in only on those of the Jews who are drumming for war. Be sure you make clear that you are not lumping anti-war Jews in with them. Qualify to your hearts content about the errors of Talmudic and Torah Judaism. Don’t hold all the sins of his many generations of sons against the repent and atoning Jacob. I actually model my own action vis-a-vis my flesh brother on the actions of Jacob and am very glad I did. I know Jesus has zero problems with that too.
Finally, you also wrote, “I believe everybody should be allowed to live in peace and nobody deserves to be able to take away what another person has because they fancy themselves to be somehow superior in their genes or who their parents were, whatever.The Bible is full of examples of the horrible things the Jews did. Soon as Moses went up on the mountain to meet with God, the Jews started orgying and worshipping Baal. The Bible doesn’t say God picked the Jews to reveal himself to so intimately because they are such wonderful people. Not at all. The Old Testament has many, many words of God calling them stubborn, unfaithful, stiffnecked and proud. Revelation says Jerusalem in the last days is compared to “Sodom and Egypt” and warns of the Synagogue of Satan. Jesus told the Pharisees that they were a den of vipers and their father was Satan and said they killed all the prophets and ignored the word of God and were into the traditions of men instead. Nothing has changed with them that I can see. And from what you said in your post above, I don’t think you probably disagree with what I’ve said here….”
Close; however, Jews turn. The prophecy is not that all the Jews (bloodline) are wiped out. The prophecy is that all finally turn and become one. They all finally live the type and degree of love for each other Jesus showed by going to the cross for the sake of that truth.
Bless them. Show them mercy in their ignorance no matter how crafty they or you think they are.
So, here we are on this site that is monitored like a hawk by government(s) agents and computers. We are at the end of this thread having a deep discussion solving the problems of the world while everyone else has raced on to the next sound bite. Are we accomplishing anything? This conversation between us has been noted. It’s not phony. Let them learn.
You will notice that I am Tom Usher. You will notice that I have linked to the RLCC site. I am in the book. No fear! Just tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but. That’s what our brother Jesus did and still does through the written word and through us if the Holy Spirit is within and speaks through us.
I once was lost, but now I’m found. If you are going to die for something, die for truth and live.
Peace
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June 11th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Tom Usher, You said: “You won’t be able to substantiate that Jewishness is not DNA but religious. Jewishness isn’t even either according to many, many claiming Jewishness. A non-ethnic Jew can become a member of Judaism and his or her child can then be an atheist. This is partly distracting though.”
My answer: Right. You can subscribe to Judaism either by going into it by choice or coming into it by birth. Either way, it is believing the big lie that by being Jewish, either way, one becomes a “little god,” superior to all nonJews. That’s all you have to believe, that you are special, superior, and that the rest of humanity are subhuman vermin. And of course, hating Jesus, hating Christianity. It is a religion of pride, hatred to God, hatred to mankind. It is literally an antichrist religion. Hateful and vile.
You said: “just focus in only on those of the Jews who are drumming for war. Be sure you make clear that you are not lumping anti-war Jews in with them. Qualify to your hearts content about the errors of Talmudic and Torah Judaism.”
My answer: A Jew who does not hate Jesus, does not hate Christians, does not want to see the Muslims wiped out, who does not believe the Talmud and Cabala and does believe the Torah is no longer a Jew, but has become a Christian. The Torah prophesies Jesus as the Messiah. Jews who reject God’s Word in favor of “traditions of men” are not loving, “anti-war” Jews. They are Christ hating, Christian hating Jews, who reject their own scripture in favor of “traditions of men,” (ie Talmud/Cabala, even if they say they don’t believe in these wicked books. In essence they accept the lie of their Jewish superiority, their “little godhood.”)
You said: “Close; however, Jews turn. The prophecy is not that all the Jews (bloodline) are wiped out. The prophecy is that all finally turn and become one. They all finally live the type and degree of love for each other Jesus showed by going to the cross for the sake of that truth.”
That’s craziness. A remnant of Jews will be saved. Most have died in their sins hating Jesus, they died lost, and they have no more chance to be saved. Most Jews living today will continue to die in their sins hating Jesus, worshipping the antichrist when he comes. Galatians says that the real Jews are those who believe in Jesus, and that those who believe in Jesus are the real children of Abraham. Christians are the “Israel of God,” as the Bible teaches, not Jews who hate Jesus.
You said: “Bless them. Show them mercy in their ignorance no matter how crafty they or you think they are.”
There is nothing merciful about encouraging them in their delusions of grandeur. If they don’t repent and get right, they are going to die and go to Hell.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Tom, I forgot to respond to your remark about the Muslims having weapons. Yes, Pakistan has nukes. But Iran does not. The very idea that anybody would want to nuke Iran, kill all those people, just because the Jews don’t like them and they don’t like the Jews –
The elite have underground cities all built. They don’t mind starting off WWIII and sizzling most of us away. They will be toasting and partying and orgying away in their underground cities congratulating themselves for pulling off their last best caper.
So what if the Jews don’t like Iran and want to nuke them away. What makes them so special that their hatred toward any group means a death sentence for all of them? If the Jews want everybody to love them, how about if they stop thinking they are better than everybody, how about if the Jews stop studying “holy” books (really unholy books) which tell them they are little gods and the rest of us are subhuman creatures that it is good to cheat, to lie to, to pull the ladder away if we fall into a crevice. How about if they get over hating Jesus. If they don’t want to believe in Jesus, or can’t believe in him to be God and savior, that’s one thing. But to hate and despise him, to study from childhood the Talmud which refers to Jesus as “may his name be forever blotted out..” to say the vile things that are said in the Talmud, to teach this to little kids from childhood, this is just sick, but it’s what the elite who worship Lucifer all do.
The REAL haters are the Jews. They despise us all, especially the Christians and Muslims.
All the Luciferian secret societies, bar none, are ALL based on the Jewish Babylonian Cabala. Antichrist.
In my experience, atheists go way past disbelief in God. They love Satan. They are Luciferians.
The Muslims didn’t blow up the Twin Towers. It was the Luciferians.
Mossad, British Intel, CIA — devil worshippers all, into torture, staging terrible bombings and killings, constantly provoking and provacateuring, starting wars, to get us all hating and fighting each other, like they did with Oklahoma, with 77, with the USS Liberty, with 9/11, and almost anything you hear on the news is staged to manipulate the minds and actions of the goy.
All they do is lie, kill and deceive, just like their master Satan. That’s what the Bible says Satan is that he comes only to “Lie, kill and deceive.”
Fakers, scammers, mind controllers, thieves, perverts, murderers.
There is good and evil in this world. Those who hate God love death. That’s what the Bible says, and it’s true.
June 12th, 2009 at 1:44 am
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June 12th, 2009 at 7:56 am
@ Just the Truth Says
I can keep it fairly short I think. Let me clarify, as I can see how my words were taken not as intended. (This is why dialoguing is good.) When I wrote, “The prophecy is that all finally turn and become one,” I was referring to the remnant of which you wrote. My point was that they do become Christians. My belief, which is consistent with Jesus’s teachings, is that Christians are the real Jews and that those who call themselves Jews today but reject Jesus are false to the spirit of Jacob (Israel). I won’t go into it here unless it presents a problem and you want me to elaborate.
You wrote, “There is nothing merciful about encouraging them in their delusions of grandeur.” Blessing them doesn’t encourage that. Jesus said to bless the people who hate you. They hate it when people who disagree with them bless them. It shames them. That’s not the reason for blessing them though. If they don’t turn and develop the ability to think with the higher portions of their brain (frontal and temporal lobes where unselfishness and connectedness reside), well, you can’t force them. You did though want it for them and ask it of them. When it comes time for your soul, you’ll not be cast out for selfishness or being unable to connect.
You don’t think Jesus was wrong about blessing them. You know what I mean. Just accept it. Bless them. If you refuse, you’re being stubborn. Don’t be that.
As for atheists, many of them believe there is nothing after death. They don’t believe in the metaphysical. They don’t believe in spirit. I’m being intentionally simplistic here. I could delve into all sorts of things, but it isn’t necessary right here and right now.
Well, you are passionate. What are you going to do though? Jesus says that you are not to take lives. You are not to resist evil. If they hit you, turn your other cheek to them. If they spit on you, whip you, beat you, laugh at you, scorn you, lie about you, stab you, take your guns, knock down your house, steal your land, cut down your olive trees, dump their raw sewage on your crops, poison your wells, imprison you, torture and even crucify you until your flesh gives up the ghost, you are to forgive them for their ignorance and not wish upon them all that they have done upon anyone including you. That’s what Jesus has said, and it’s right too. If you don’t understand how that can be, I’m willing to discuss it but only in earnest.
As for the censorship here concerning the Talmud, compromises are often forced upon us. Alex Jones has undoubtedly bumped up against a warning. If he crosses the line, it might mean a huge crimp on being able to get out there the things he wants out there. I cross the line on the RLCC site that he won’t allow anyone to cross here. My style though is very different. I am interested in seeing all sides and getting at the root of the problem. I can’t mix assault rifles and my Christianity for instance. Mixing assault rifles and mottos such as “Come and take it” with Christianity doesn’t work. Trying indicates a failure of consistency. It’s hypocrisy. Of course, not everyone is looking to do what Jesus said to do: be perfect.
I’m working on it. I want it. I believe it is there. I believe the offer is genuine. I trust Jesus. I trust God.
Peace, love, and truth are one,
Tom Usher