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The Mystery of Molech
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Myths,Legends,and Facts about the "owl" from different cultures around the world,and a surprising ending that will make all the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!
People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy and I can’t do that as "Larry Vickery".As a man,I’am flesh and blood.I can be ignored,I can be destroyed,but as a
symbol.As a symbol I can be incorruptable,I can be everlasting.
What symbol?
Something elemental,something terrifying…
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June 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Huh?
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 pm
The sacrifice is an act that steals the positive energy from good people: those who are poweful search to stay powerful by killing the weak one! By acting so, they spread the terror, injustice and all kinf of misery… just like they do it in the real world. They provoke wars and kill our children, they enslave us and threat us as we were the garbage.
Their cliques should be threatened as the most dangerous enemy of the humanity.
WE have just to believe that we are able to destroy them and that the goodness is not weaknes – THE INDIVIDUAL DIVINITY instead of institutional divinity is asked: Jesus=Horus; Mohammed = pedophil and geocentrist; torah=enslavement, sexist, rassist propaganda.
We are all Gods – that is the secret!!! We are all able to create and to be great !!!
June 24th, 2008 at 12:20 am
I only watched the first video. To comment just on the owl itself, it is simply an owl, nothing more. If people want to find/invent meanings for it, fine, but that is mysticism and nothing more. It’s eyes look the way they do because of the ability to see well in the dark. I hope most people can move beyond mysticism towards more of a philosophy that is not in such stark contradiction with science. As far as people doing bad things and worshipping owls, those types of people will use any “excuse” necessary to indulge a sickness. They will believe anything is divine or sacred if they have already made connections for themselves between this deity and the alleviating of responsibilty they may have otherwise felt for causing pain and suffering. I think the world would be alot better place if more people would/could acknowledge the reality of “evil’, for without doing so, are we not more controlled by it? We all have it, that’s a given, that’s no reason to cause harm to others, “evil” can be turned into the creative good. It is also dangerous to use the word ‘evil’, it is better just to use stupid.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Satan thought that he was a god, and look where it got him. Instead of trying to be a god yourself, wouldn’t it be better to read what the real god has to say about things like this? Here’s the short version if you don’t want to read it yourself: God wants us to put our hope for a better future in him, not in ourselves.
By the way, if you want some proof that you’re really not a god, why don’t you go down to your local hospital and try to heal the sick and injured with just a touch, like Jesus did. Let me know how that works out, ok?
June 24th, 2008 at 12:48 am
And that actual evidence that the elite undertake real human sacrifice at Bohemian Grove is what?
Wake up, dude. Over 1 million children have died in Iraq since the original NWO invasion in 1991 – that is a sacrifice to huge to imagine and millions of people already know about it and do precisely nothing every single day.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:19 am
All of this was only known to a select few for millennia, those in the highest echelons of the secret societies of the ancient world and continuing to the controllers of Freemasonry and other societies in our own day. It’s becoming more widely known now because the evil force that has always ruled this world is making its bid to completely control the mind, body and soul of mankind. It (they) will fail. In fact, they have ALREADY failed, and they know it! However, their pride, arrogance, and enmity against God will not let them turn from their course of ultimate self-destruction. In the coming years, the good people of this world will suffer terrible persecution and hardship, but in the end they will triumph. That’s because “He who is with us is greater than he who is with them.”
June 24th, 2008 at 4:17 am
First of all…I would like to thank Alex Jones (and crew) for listing my documentary here.I am truly honored,and I sincerely mean that from the bottom of my heart…
Secondly…I HIGHLY recommend that EVERYONE read the article that I wrote that goes hand-in-hand with this video.Because of the ten minute time limit on videos of regular youtube accounts,I did not have time to make all of the points that needed to be made.
Read the article,and you will see that my documentary is MUCH more than mere “Speculation”.It is filled with IMPORTANT information AND numerous links to other articles,websites,and videos that help to state my case.
OwlMan
NOTE: Just click on my screen-name to be taken there.The article is entitled:
“Is it “Mock” or REAL CHILD SACRIFICE going on at (The Bohemian Grove)”
June 24th, 2008 at 4:54 am
What is it that I hear in the Wind, that taunts and tares At My soul?
Could it be the sound of all the Babies crying
Crying for justice……….
For all the Love that has been Lost by Acts of Greed, in selfish Ego
For all that Could of been, that will never be.
Are not Good men, guilty of Evil?
If they stand by and allow it?
June 24th, 2008 at 6:58 am
# 6, you kind of misquoted that Biblical passage, and because of that you’ve come to a really wrong conclusion about how Christians should act. What you were referring to is 1 John 4:4
“Ye are of God, my little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.”
In this passage, John is talking to Christians about overcoming false doctrines and false teachers, not physically overcoming evil with weapons.
When the spirit of God comes to “live” within a person, that person gains the ability to discern the words of God from the words of Satan. That same spirit of God also gives that person eternal life, so that no matter what happens to his body, his sole is always safe and secure.
You are correct when you say that Christians will be persecuted in this world. But you are wrong when you say that we will win in the end. Christians are not going to make this present world any better by fighting against evil. In fact, that’s one thing Jesus specifically told us not to do. God has given himself the job of putting an end to evil, so you will not be doing his will if you try and do that job for him. Jesus told his followers that they should not put their hope for a better future in this world. He told them that this world is a “dark and dying place”. He told them that they should put their hope for a better future solely on Him. It is Jesus who will defeat Satan, it is Jesus who will raise us up from the dead, it is Jesus who will destroy this present world and it is Jesus who will create a new Heaven and Earth where we will live in peace.
All these things are part of the Gospel, but there aren’t any passages in there which says Christians should take up arms and fight the agents of evil.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Evil is when good men do nothing
June 24th, 2008 at 9:30 am
The owl that the Bohemian Grovers worship is NOT a representation of molech. Molech is the bull god, and it was worshipped when the sun was in taurus. The owl is a representation of the goddess, whether Isis or Columbia or Athena, they all symbolize the same thing. Repeat, THE OWL DOES NOT REPRESENT MOLECH.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:38 am
It’s no mystery for researchers of the esoteric knowledge, the owl is a symbol of lucifer, the giver of forbidden knowledge, the wise owl imparts enlightment (gnosis) when the individual declares himself autonomous from his Creator (God).
June 24th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I agree with Mark Villa. Also why wouldn’t the elite luciferians hide the worship of the bull behind the owl. The OWL represents the bull IMHO because their motto is hidden in plain site. Plus does it matter if it is a owl,goat or bull? They all have horns and BESIDES THEY WORSHIP IT . My God do I have to spell it out. ? Why is it even a question because they are worshiping and sacraficing to a stone owl-THAT’S STILL MESSED UP!
Do I care if it is an Owl,Goat or Bull? NO BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE AS IF IT WERE A BULL!
Which is how I feel about some of the comments against AJ on this subject. BULL.
I am NOT an AJ worshiper but I know bull when I see it.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Prayer, sincere prayer to God and his angels asking him humbly for Him to rescue those harmed by these bums and to confound the latter will go a FAR way in halting this evil…..”The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing…” Be strong in God and stay safe Alex and all those brave souls exposing this abomination…..They shall NOT pass!
June 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am
All of you are just pissed off because your not part of the corprate elite. These individules choose this god or deity to worship for power just like you worship Christ for power. All Religions are man made as man has built his GOD in mans image. The only truth we know are the seasons Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter. Earth as we call it has been on this cycle for billions of years, maybe longer. Keep praying and set there waiting as it will do nothing for you. Just like wishing for someting. When your Christ never shows up to help then you will know that it is all Bullshit.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:41 am
I think about it like this. If the most powerful people in the world worship figures like Baphomet or Molech, they must have some major significance to the “light” or universal truth. It is not nessicarily a bad thing. It depends on how you view things. The knights templar raided the egyptian tombs and came back worshipping Baphomet. They must have seen something there. They must have obtained the knowledge of unprecendented power. Something the egyptians knew and the sumerians knew all along.
After all, major religion (Christian/Catholic/Islam) is based off of Egyptian scriptures and Sumerian Tablets. Read about it. The sumerian tablets predate all religions by thousands of years.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Leonard Horowitz, (a dentist) is a member of the Knights of Malta, and a defender of evil zionism policies, yet he has infiltrated most of the GCN network. He recently denounced Dr. Peter Duesberg who exposed the HIV=AIDS fraud, and is an honest scientist facing huge opposition from the NWO.
Don’t trust Horowitz, he is openly avowed to belong to these occult organizations.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
This is just an observation:
Internet movies like Zeitgeist and many others show us how Christianity, Judaism, and Islam (all admittedly from the same Aberhamic root religion) are all based on- or inspired by the zodiac or “Sidereal and Solar worship”.
This is why Moses kills a bunch of backsliders who revert to worshiping the Bull god (Taurus), Why moses and modern jews are shown blowing the Rams-horn (Aries), and why Jesus feeds all the people with two Fish (Pisces).
As has been pointed out- this is really all just allegory for the priests of this solar mystery religion carrying out the change from one phase to another and keeping the people along with them. All of the sudden when it is time to transition to the next phase the old holy symbols, the old practices become tainted with evil and reviled by the new religion that steps out of the ashes.
Maybe Moloch, Baphomet, and the current modern “militant christianity” are all related to this transition. What I mean to say is that Maybe those on high who like to keep their power are simply creating enemy images to keep all of the people herded together at the common enemy of the “Evil Moloch, Baphomet, or United states christian govt.”)
Thats why its important to remain grounded and never in fear- otherwise you risk being a pawn in yet more and more clever ploys by the true enemy (those who seek to control you and keep you from independent wisdom)
June 24th, 2008 at 10:49 am
why does uncle sam resemble a GOAT?
June 24th, 2008 at 11:00 am
For februation was practiced among the most different nations without being connected with human sacrifices; and, like most to the idolatrous rites of the heathen, no doubt the worship of Moloch assumed different forms at different times and among different nations.
Keil-Delitzsch, Commentary on the Old Testament, vol 1, the Pentateuch (Grand Rapids, Eerdmans, 1980), page 416-417
Molech, whose name probably derived from Melech “king” and Bosheth, “shame”, was one of the deities worshipped by the idolatrous Israelites. He was referred to as “the abomination of the children of Ammon” (1 Kings 11:7) and the primary means of worshipping him appears to be child sacrifice or “to pass through the fire.” Solomon was said to have built a temple to him.
Research Suvivior do you do it? obviously not.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am
The Observer Says:
June 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am
All of you are just pissed off because your not part of the corprate elite.
RE: Hahahahahahahaha! I could give 2 cents about the Elite. They are just a bunch of turds, sitting in the bottom of a toilet bowl, being readied to be flushed down it.
DEVOUR! DEVOUR ! Suffocate your own Empire
DEVOUR! DEVOUR ! It’s your………. FINAL HOUR!
June 24th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Gnostic thinker, you have pontificated wrongly, you “gnostics ” are beguiled to think you are informed, but, Mene Te’kel…you have fallen short because you are , perhaps unwittingly, most likely not, following baphomet, jabulon, ba’al into purgatory.
The Torah that most good and real Jewss, as opposed to the repugnant edomite/sabbataian jews who are in name only and for the purpose of destroying the real Jews, the former study what we call the first 5 books of the scriptures which are to this day and increasingly so, proven correct, see theexoduscase, theexodusconspracy, splitrockresearch, where amongst the multitude of other biblical events are proven true, such as those retards who created and worshiped the golden calf after having first hand witnessing the parting of the Red Sea which is proved accurate by the aforementioned sources and divers documentary/photographic evidence,”not alagorical!”
And Moshe, was instructed to kill the sun god worshipersd, of which, there is still evidence of the barial ground, rightfully so, yes, YahVeh, the Almighty does instruct His believers to destroy those who openly worship ba’al in His face and He and we are not sorry…they shouldn’t have done THAT!
Your nom de quere is an oxy moron, you are actually antiknowledgable.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:36 am
P.S. I got off track, the scriptures, originally written in Hebrew are the most original source of the accounts of our creator and His covenant with us to subdue and have dominion over the wicked ones and its followers, the great whore, that roman church is a counterfeit as is every other think that ba’al has inspired and they created this modern dupe form of Christianity in collusion with the illuminists/communists and the koran, they did not all come from the same source! Islam and the roman church are counterfeits and all others are spin offs of sun god worship.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Those videos were really poorly done.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Well that was shit.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
red dawn, don’t get me wrong. I do not abandon the knowledge or wisdom of the Torah nor the New Testament.
However I have taken myself out of the practice of looking to another man for my spiritual guidance. Im not saying that my choices will always be right- but it is between the most high and myself as to the outcome of my decisions as a whole.
Those who continue to fall into the trap of letting someone else do their spiritual thinking past a certain age are allowing themselves to be led astray- and sometimes those leading are secretly evil.
Religious practice is great, but only to the extent of sharing experiences IMO.
Case in point about Alex Jones- He continuously refers to the “Owl Moloch” and then I see dozens of videos about “Moloch the Owl” pop up on youtube. If people did a little more research they would question why Moloch is always shown as a bull- not an owl.
That said I’m open to Alex’s thoughts about why Moloch is an Owl today and not a Bull like he was millennia ago. But he doesn’t describe how that came to be, so I view his opinion as incomplete. Not wrong- but I question it.
Just like I question everything about todays spiritual environment, with the “Lord god” supposedly coming to rescue us from the evil devil worshipers and build a new Jerusalem.
Do your homework people.
I’m informed about the things I say because I read reference books and watch videos, and write it all down, and so I can assuredly say I worship nothing but the highest form of spirit that men have called God. Not Baphomet, not Jabulion or Ba’al as you insinuate. I have no place for your Semitic “Lord’ in my life. Not that I hate those who need that kind of spirituality. It just isn’t for me or anyone else who doesn’t want that kind of worship.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Molech in Hebrew means King
Get it right
Molech = King
King = God
I took Hebrew Ashkanazi
Molech = King
Molech David
Molech George
Molech James Version
Molech Tutanchaten
Molech = King = God
Basic Hebrew
Get it right and stop the nonsence
Bull horns = Crown
Horned Owl = Crown
Crown of Horns = Crown
Halo = Crown
Corona = Crown
Corona = Sun
Sun = Crown
You worship God you worship the King you worship the Crown Sun
Nothing more nothing Less
June 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Poor owls. If they only knew what people say about them, they’d be shocked.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
The videos are not meant to entertain you, they are just illustrations meant to edify.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
My God man! Quit it with the stupid Owl = Molech crap.
We all know where the confounding of the two began. Why does he continue to confuse people? I don’t see the reason (other than someone really, really doesn’t like to admit they were wrong!)
The bohos have an owl. They worship the damn thing. They make mock sacrifices to it. But the owl does not represent Molech, nor has it ever. Moloch was a sacred bull or ox. Period. End of story.
The owl is Minerva (Pallas Athena). Known to all antiquity as such. In Babylon it was the Kabbalistic demon goddess called Lilith. ….but never, ever, ever, was it called MOLOCH you dumb asses.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Actually you have it wrong Nowarchy
MOLOCH
Moloch derives from combining the consonants of the hebrew
Melech= King
and
Boshet= Shame
Moloch = Shame King
2Kings 16:3 and 2 Kings 21:6
having been influenced by the Assyrians, worshoped Moloch at the hilled site of Topheth, outside the walls of Jerusalem. This site flourished under Manasseh’s son King Amon but was destroyed durring the reign of Josiah, the reformer
“And he defiled Topheth, which is the valley of the son’s of Hinnom, that no one might burn his son or his daughter as an offering to Moloch” (2Kings 23:10)
NOW BA’AL
Ba’al as a Semitic common noun Ba’al meant “Owner” or “Lord”, although it could be used more generally”…
As a God of distinct character “Baal” was designated the universal god of fertility, and in that capacity his title was Prince, lord of the earth. Also called lord of rain and dew, the two forms of moisture that were indispensable for fertile soil in Canaan.
Ba’al was not exclusively a fertility god, he was also King of the gods, and to achieve that position he was portrayed as seizing the divine kingship from Yamm, the sea god.
For the early Hebrews “Ba’al designated the “Lord” of Israel, just as “Ba’al” further north designated the “Lord” of Lebanon or of Ugarit.
What made the name Ba’al anathema to the Israelites was the program of Jezebel in the 9th century BC to introduce into Israel he Phoenician cult of Ba’al in opposition to the official worship of “Yahweh” (1Kings 18)
By the time of the prophet Hosea (Mid 8th century BC) the antagonism to Ba’alism was so strong that the use of the word was often replaced with the contemptuous “Boshet”
Boshet= shame
June 24th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Gnostic, I do not follow a man either, rather Yahshua Ha Messiah son of YahVveh and YahVeh the Most high Himself. That is the bright line of demarcation between believing in the creator and all the multitudes of the enemy tha ba’al has inspired to lead man away from YahVeh and into perdition, to the pit that was created for the fallen ones.
It is aggrievous that someone that is as intelligent as yourself has no place for the Almighty, who is not that word , lord, that is a pagan name, as is god that nowarchy is referring to in his/her vanity, the word god, he or she should know if they had truly studied Hebrew as we do, is not Hebrew at all, it came from the heathen Greeks who translated the Torah and in that, the pharisees removed YahVeh’s name and replaced it with Ha shem, “the name,” some 7000 times, the Greeks, seeing ‘the name’ replaced that phrase with their own name for the one they worshiped, zeus and his son izeus which became jesus, again, which is not a Hebrew name and both blasphemous to the Most Highs name and that of the Messiah who instructed His people to USE His name.
Nowarchy knows not what he/she speaks or is simply trying to deceive.
ALL,All,All,All beliefs fall into two categories, first the word given to us by our creator and all the multitudes of religions inspired by satan, it is its nature to counter, counterfeit ,mimick and take credit for everything YahVeh does and create chaos upon mankind and inspiring him to blame YahVeh for what it has done…that is the modus operandi of all sun god worship and has nothing to do with the Holy scriptures.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Nowarchy you have it wrong
MOLOCH
The word Moloch used to describe the dieity to whome child sacrifices were made in the middle east derives from combining the consonants of…
Melech=King
and the vowels of…
Boshet= Shame
Kings Ahaz and Menasseh being influenced by the Assyrians, worshiped Moloch at the Hilled site of Topheth
Read :
2 Kings 16:3
2Kings 21:6
2Kings 23:10
BA’AL
Ba’al was worshiped in many Middle eastern communities especially among the Canaanites who considered him a fertility deity
As a Semitic common noun ba’al meant “owner” or “Lord”.
Ba’al was the son of Dagon (the fish headed god)
Ba’al persuaded Ashera to intercede with her husband El, to authorize the construction of Ba’als temple
The worship of Ba’al was popular in Egypt from the latter New Kingdom of 1400 BC to 1075 BC
For the early Hebrews Ba’al designated the “Lord of Israel” just as further north Ba’al designated the “Lord of Lebanon” or the “Lord of Ugarit”
June 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
ok…i don’t see the point in this….so what if this is what they believe in…whats the difference in believing in this or christianity or judaism or hinduism or islam? Either way you look at it its all religion in one way shape or form. I mean…come on…you have to be kidding me that you are actually afraid or effected by this. WHY would this effect you over the openess of the Vatican or the United church of England? ITS ALL FAKE!!!! ALL RELIGION HAS DONE IS BEEN USED TO CONTROL PEOPLE!!!!!! Its great to know they are screwed up people “taking charge” of the world…but there is no reason they will be happy with it…and if they are…good for them. It won’t effect me.
For those of you who think something must be done about it…what do you have in mind? go destroy it? go kill them? I hope not…there is no answer in violence. Its barbaric and gets humanity nowhere.
Keep in mind the teachings of people like Jesus or Mouhammed or Krishna or Martin Luther King Jr. or Mahatma Ghandi…all they do is preach peaceful protest…its not instant but it does the trick. If your not willing to give your life for a better cause, you are no better than the people who want to take lives for their own cause.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
HELP RADIO TALK SHOW HOST DON IMUS (IN THE MORNING) NOW. HE IS BEING DEMANDED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AIRWAVES AGAIN THIS TIME JUST FOR ASKING IF SOMEONE WAS A BLACK MAN. AL SHAPTON IS HIS WORST ENEMY. IT IS ALL OVER THE NEWS. THE MEDIA SHUT OUT OF MICHAEL REAGAN CALLING FOR THE MURDER OF MARK DICE NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THE NOW OPEN EARS OF THE MEDIA. HELP IMUS AND MARK GETS HELP. THE MEDIA GATES ARE OPEN NOW. MAYBE THE GATES CAN BE KEPT OPEN IF OUR HELP FOR IMUS IS STRONG WHILE HIS BATTLE IS PRESENTLY GOING ON. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rhonda
June 24th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
I agree with poster #31 who says Moloch is not an owl but is instead a bull.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
red dawn now, is it Yahshua Ha Messiah son of YahVveh and YahVveh the terms we should use when speaking of “GOD”?
thanks in advance.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Red dawn now. I don’t know you yet we understand this. There are still the children of light who understand to be wise as serpent’s and harmless as dove’s. It is good to know there are more.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
universaly speaking God is the all encompassing time/space centience that influences the eteranl construct. Its quantumly possible that if their was another intelligent race, that a Jesus figure could rise from them as well. His ability to heal from birth is thanks to a conjuction of stars and electromagnetic field around him given by what i believe were the angels (i believe aliens) in order to facilitate his purpose from the universal spirit which has given us many mansions in his kingdom..or rather dimensions. In death time and space and dimension come together into a homogony of moving possibility in the outside of this existence if you understand my meaning.
To reach a rational place in death, we must as christ instructed us, tune our spirits up, their is a good reason Jesus turned water into a strong opiate mixed wine to get the people drunk on the holy spirit, to simulate a mindset he intended to send out via his ability to manipulate his frequency on the earth grid energy lines. I believe jesus had ritual understanding of how the universe works because he learned from the egyptian masters at the time which enhanced his abilities and started his famous life. The thing is we can all learn to do what he did. Tesla learned it through science and many others are waking up daily.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Ok that 3rd video really SUCKS, its all speculation. How many times is the author going to repeat “It could be real” Its established that the elite are not the Christians they claim to be and do indeed pay homage to evil deities, this information alone should be enough to oust all of them if learned by the citizenry.
June 24th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Yes Gorwardont, it is a matter of Reverence for the Almighty and a good way to rebel against the wicked one who inspired the defiling of Their Holy names, YahVeh is a pronunciation of Yod Hey Vod Hey, a tetragrammaton of the Most High’s name which is actually quite long, the pharisees removed His name so that no one could know or utter it in an asinine attempt to keep anyone from using it in blasphemy, this, in contravention to His command for us to use His name, Yahshua means, Yah is our salvation.
Molech by the way, is represented as an owl because the owl is all seeing and see in the darkness, what does ba’all represent? darkness.
Enoch7, I am not sure what you mean, your message is garbled, I assume that was a compliment? The book of Enoch is good but very difficult to translate.
June 24th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
It’s a big fag fest, bunch of retards running around naked with male prostitutes, despicable, that’s why they holler…”die dull care” they don’t want to care about anything, especially all the children and women they redrum and sell into slavery, garbage people!
June 24th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Given the scriptures are proven true and accurate, your account spiritman is gobbledygook and does not have any credence.
Of course, if the one you are referring to as jesus is baphomet, the one and name under which the anti christ is returning as, then there is some truth to that mess you speak, Yahshua didn’t learn a crappin thing from the sungod worshipping/serpent worshipping moron egyptians…they received their knowledge from the wicked ones, the fallen angels, the nephilim..AKA the aliens to which the chamber within the queens chamber points to their star, the dog star or sirius, the same one occultist Poppy/george bush refers to when he said, “I represent powers from beyond the stars.” You speak with a forked tongue spirit man or you are speaking for them….same thing.
The egyptians, like the south American pyramid builders and all the rest from around the world got their knowledge in exchange for sacrificing the innocents…just like the bohemian grove mess…nothing ever changes when man deals with ba’alzubub, just death and misery!
June 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Red dawn now I am sorry It was a compliment . I use enoch7 so there is no confusion with enoch son of cain.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
once again. Molech has never in history been represented by an OWL besides on this site and it’s affiliates.
ever met a war supporting pagan????
June 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Thanks Enoch7, # 46, Actually, that retard owl is called molech all over outside this site, see Tex Marrs amongst other occult researchers. hat is the crappin owl see at the grove and like the origin of “satan clause” in estra pagan celebrations of fertility, they heat up the belly and cook alive the baby of a girl impregnated by the occultic priests.
June 24th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
To what degree is Satanism rooted in the NWO? Was Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and others allowed to kill millions as a sacrafice to Satan as a means of launching world government in his name so that mass killings could be carried out on an even larger scale? According to Fritz Springmeier in “Bloodlines of the Illuminati” these people routinely sacrafice children as a way to initiate their own children into their Satanic religion. It may be that Bohemian Grove is too public for human sacrafice, but it could hold more private rituals as well.
June 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
REPENT and turn to JESUS now
for the way of the wicked leads onto the lake of fire
and REVELATION OF JOHN
says that thoes who nameis not found in the lambs book of Life was cast alive into the lake of fire and brimstone
Consitter your say we
Sodomy is sin
Racism is sin
Classism is sin
consitter repent Luke 13:5 consitter and visit http://www.repentamerica.com sobeit
June 24th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
My sentiments EXACTLY Larry…Well said!
OwlMan
NOTE; Just wanted to remind everyone to please read the article that I wrote that goes hand-in-hand with this documentary.Click on my screen-name to be taken there,you can’t miss it.Peace!
June 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Why do people use these message boxes to provoke arguments or to insult another humans opinion.
Instead of quarreling, We should be coming together to fight this army that seeks to destroy us. Yet we as a nation, as a race are to self-righteous to do what must be done, to seek the help we need and we have all fallen victim to the westernised way of life we have all become accustomed.
I think it was Ghandi that said that if we could all read the sermon on the mount and if we all lived that way…the world would be such a beautiful place, and i think he was right, but how easy for me to say that, and how much easier for you to pull it apart.
We are tought to overthink things, yet really if you bring it back to basics all we have to do is almost the simplest thing of all…say No
Say No
i will not bow down to you, i will not pay your taxes, i will not give you my hard earned money so you can create more weapons of mass destruction, i will not fund your oil war, I WILL NOT FUND YOU IN YOUR EVIL DOINGS!
I havent finished writing this and i can already feel the backlash that this will recieve, but thats ok, because one day sooner or later (sooner i pray) we will ALL have to realise that they…the authority…
the government….they are just …men.
And they are slipping, there plans are not fool proof and probably the most important thing that we have, that we allow ourselves to forget each and every single day, is that we outnumber them infinitely!
The few rule the many….Now all we need is the Many to finally take a stand and do not only what is right but what is nessacary (now i DONT mean become a “terrorist”… i do not like that word because it was invented by the american government as a way of enslaving a nation through fear) and it all could start if you just say No.
June 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Texx Marrs also reports that a sacrificial pyramid was constructed under DC that only native south Americans were allowed to build, he reports this pyramid is surrounded by all the nations flags and has a waterway access to it for transporting sacrificial victims into it.
Powerofprophecy.com
June 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Lei, here in America, we capitalize the letter I especially when referring to ourselves because we are important and to preserve the primacy of the individual which the current marxists are trying to destroy through the public schools.
We discuss these things because we thirst for knowledge and we cannot in good conscience allow misinformation to propagate and proliferate because, stupidity is contagious and we are trying to stem the tide of de-evolution.
No good is served by allowing half truths to prevail, particularly in these dire times, our last hours before the apocalypse, the Almighty says, “my people die for a lack of knowledge.”
June 24th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
P.S. also because opinion cannot be allowed to manifest as fact, that is the bulwark of nazism that we are suffering today, that people are easily disposed to believe a big lie over a small one….VERITAS!
June 24th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
O RLY?
June 24th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
This is naturally a muddier, more speculative aspect of the NWO. We can’t be sure what happens at the Grove– and because it is done in secret, the natural tendency for a sane person is to assume it is probably bad. Simply the fact that government policies have been set at the Grove make it more than a “fun and games” retreat intended for America’s fat-cats to unwind.
The significance of the Cremation of Care ceremony is inconsequential, since it isn’t a *real* Satanic ritual– (though it closely resembles one, and that’s alarming enough). In the long run, your conclusion depends on how literally or symbolic you interpret the Bible. For some, everything in the Bible is meant to be documentary-style proof of something. For others, it’s symbolic poetry that’s intended as a guide for living life. I tend to side with the latter.
So while some people are searching under every stone for the Antichrist (and let’s face it, the Antichrist could be any number of people or things), others use the prophecy in Revelations as a template for evil, tyrannical times. No doubt, the current situation in the world absolutely fits into that which is described in Revelations– and that’s a warning to the people that something needs to be done, or else we will face some terrible times. Does that mean I expect locusts and monsters like Abaddon to buzz about the earth in physical form? No. It means that we are living in a time of extreme decadence and we face an unruly elite that want us all dead or enslaved for their own selfish reasons. God is there to give us the courage to face these murderous gangsters before anymore blood is shed.
June 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
well there is video of what they do inside.
June 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
uh…. HELLO!? Read the book of Revelations people. There WILL be a New World Order, there WILL be a global army and there WILL be a world wide currency, with a mark (RFID micro-chip) on everyone in order to buy or sell.
It is pointless to fight it, but if you REALLY want to piss the “Illuminati/NWO/global elite/ international bankers”, you should try to get people saved.
Christians will eventually be the ultimate enemy of the NWO.
Lets make them go insane with rage, and lets spark a revival.
As far as a political revolution is concerned I fear it is too late for the U.S.
I love Ron Paul and all but we blew it, and with abortion (slaughter of humans), gays getting married in California and “In GOD We Trust” being taken off our currency I think we are no longer under the protective cover of God any more.
We will soon see the wrath of God…
June 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
The cremation of care is symbolic of death of the truth, Yahshua Ha Messiah “I am the way, the”truth”, and the life. It really can’t get anymore Satanic than that.
June 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Now see, that was a series of opinions as opposed to the facts that I provided, Tarantula is ignoring the voluminous facts provided here and by the various eye witness accounts of infiltrators, lifetime researchers such as Texx Marrs and Jordon Maxwell amongst others and the physical proofs uncovered throughout the years including the Archs, the giants and the evidence documented by divers at the bottom of the Red Sea, in is axiomatic that since there are proofs of those events that a goodly preponderance of the rest of the scriptures is factual as well, arguendo, A Priori and A fortiori reasoning apply here as well as the various and many witnesses who have given accounts of their near death visions as well as living ones such as that of General George Washington reinforced by the fact that current events, are corroborating scripture at this time when at no other time in history these things were possible on a global scale…id est, the mark in the hand or head.
June 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
The Rothefellers and the Rockchild’s bow to the swift hunter of pests we don’t want. Soon we will give them something to bow down to………………….
June 24th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
If this is what they do to retain power temporarily…then they would surely sacrifice 90% of the planet to retain power forever. Hmmm….
June 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Me like guns ….what is this mess about you can’t fight it? says who, why so defeatist, our founding fathers defeated the mightiest army in the world with the divine providence of the Almighty, the Boars numbering some 460 defeated 30,000 of shocka zulus miserable murderous shock troops after pledging a covenant to serve Him, they didn’t take a single loss or injury, not even their animals were injured, learn history cap, look at how a few confederates are holding off the mighty American coalition in Iraq…there ain’t no future in being defeatist.
YahVeh instructs us to be armed and defend the faith, our family and our country, study Jeremiah 50-51, Joel 3:10, psalms 144.
June 24th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
1st degree ….Boaz
2nd degree ….Shibboleth (Jachin)
3rd degree ….Tubalcain (Mahabone)
The five points of fellowship …. Foot to foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand to back, mouth to ear.
distress call …. “O Lord, my God, is there no help for the Widow’s Son?”
secret word of 3rd degree …. IAOM
secret word of 33rd degree …. Jahbulon
June 24th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
first: whenever you see someone posting the words these devil boys use, don’t read them
they’re doing their magic at ya
This country is roaring up, i can feel it
now everyone i’m gonna tell ya a real american story:
in the 90’s i went to The Burning Man fundraiser which happened before the summer get together
I thought then it was a Hippy Gathering – music and fun
well, in this building in the wharehouse district, they had a sub-floor, like a lower floor that you could look down from the main lobby floor.
Ok, so i’m looking down and i can’t believe my eyes, this is the truth now, ok:
in the middle was a throne, that had many steps leading to the big chair, and sitting on the char was a guy in a cape painted red with devil horns. FOR REAL I KID U NOT
now this is WAY before Alex going to Bohemian Grove and remember this IS in San Francisco
So, i’m looking at this thing and going, is this guy a real ’s*t*nist’ because it’s too weird.
Now, i look again and one of the friends that came up with me to the event is down there on the throne talking to him…!
I mean oh my god, i say to myself think fast: so…. i think the longer he talks to this FREAK the more his EVIL is gonna affect my friend.
So…. I run down there, climb the steps, stand behind my friend and wihtout saying anything i look at the FREAK, and I’m like HE’s GOING WITH ME YOU FREAK, my friend
THANK GOD ALMIGHTY
realizes from the side of his eye what i’m doing and follows me down. THANK GOD AGAIN
now as we were going down, a couple in their late 20’s with a small child mabye 5-7 years of age is walking up.. YES WALKING UP
It was like taking the kid to see santa clause…… NOT
When i got back to work, you know I NEVER WENT TO BURNING MAN EVER, i told everyone that Burning Man is a S*t*nic ritual gathering.
INFOWARS listeners everywhere: they looked at me like i was off my rocker
You devil boys are in big trouble
big big trouble
the country is ready for the correction
of course you’re out of the loop you’re a FREAK
June 24th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
we can fight(believe me i will) but that should be secondary to saving other peoples souls. Revelations states that all the armies of the world will march on Israel.
That means we either join up with the NWO or we are destroyed by them.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
very interesting! i give alex a lot of credit for having the guts and investigate the grove!
June 24th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Those silly musings about Freemasonry STILL won’t get any of you into a closed meeting.
You’re still missing about 9 elements, plus a paid, stamped, embossed membership dues card, lol.
The secrets of blue lodge are immaterial anymore; Palladian Rite is where it’s at for fast track to Bohemia.
Coo Coo Ca Chu, you salvation army bell ringer
June 24th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
He is the horned beast, Molchi, the fatted calf the horned owl.
Whether you belive or not, they worship him and burn care.
They sacrifice to him human lives, 5 million lives in Nazi Germany, drink there blood in wewels berg castle.
The offer him the sufferin of lives lost in fake wars to bend your mind and your will. They offer to him the suffering of fiat dollars in debt. While Indian Colection agents harras you at home money you can not pay back. All for a lamp you bought at walmart for $9.95 and you didnt like it when you got it home anyways. not to bright.
Now you may say Im crazy. That is not important. You may say I dont belive in God. That doesn not matter.
What matters is that they do. There God is lucifer and they offer him the souls of all humanity and they are trying to take it from you.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:04 am
The Elite run BOTH sides. Isn’t that right, Alex Jones? They have been doing it for thousands of years.
These videos are basically a waste of time. Nothing new. Much of the Information is False.
Here we are. Somewhat Intelligent people. Curious. Trying to learn Information.
But what is True? What Disinformation are we being fed? I keep seeing comments like ‘i know”. But do you?
Who wrote Revolations? Is there a chance that the author wrote Revalations as a plan for The Future? Like the book Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand? A Rothchild’s commissioned book outlying the plan for Economic Collapse, Martial Law, and the eventual Return/Take-Over by The Elite.
Who is John Galt? Peter Rothschild.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:13 am
One child a year…?! One millionth the average for these folks.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:21 am
They are right when they say Amerikka is the great Satan.Anton Lavay who founded the church of satan in San Francisco in 1966 should have ran for president,with Micheal Aquino head of the u.s military member of seth,another off shoot of Antons church as vice president.The masses would vote for them,as long as they can watch T.V and have bread and circuses,they would be to dumbed down,under mind control,as Bob Marley’s son sings in his song,Mind Control to take action.Thank God for brave men like Alex j,and the ones of us who see the light.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:52 am
Mo·loch [moh-lok, mol-uhk]
2. anything conceived of as requiring appalling sacrifice: the Moloch of war.
Moloch is the name of the ceremony, not the ‘god’ or ‘idol’.
So any idol , be it an owl god, a bull god, or Madonna’s black
male backup dancer butt-thong tutu team, can be involved.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Fascist USA…… The apocalypse of John AKA the Revelation of John by it’s very title is to uncover the truth that is obscured by this system, people’s, beast, created from this generation for told. It shall be as it was in the days of Noah. What has been degenerating is the morals, redefined as acceptable and tolerant even to the ways of perverse and wickedness. The churches have fallen into traditions of men and not YahVeh,” THE I AM THAT I AM” spoken to Moses.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:04 am
I’d have to agree with Enoch7. High probability your Nation is Mystery Babylon that builds the globalist system of the Beast & as such is an utter abomination before God for more reasons than I care list, but your primary worship of Mammon/Money could be among them. Could be you believed the lies of Freemason George Washington that you free when he & the other Freemasons with him patterned your Nation after Rome. The only freedom you had was your freedom from Britain that is long ago, and the freedom the Romans had during their short time as a Empire upon the earth.
Could be all your Freemason Idolatry & other Idolatry as Idolatry is an abomination before God even as the Graven Image of man upon your coins is an abomination before God. Could be your Govt’s murder of the Native Tribes & theft of our land. Could be you don’t know Jesus lived in this land long before the Europeans ever showed up.
Could be God hated your Nation before your Nation ever became a Nation which is ironic all things considered. But there are those in your Nation that do consider your Nation to be at least a Beast Kingdom/Nation as well as possibly being Mystery Babylon. They have done as God commanded and turned their backs from any love, worship or adoration for your Beast system.
Then the day comes when the Two Witnesses begin their days of prophecy against your world.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:09 am
o apathy!
they count on you,
used to watch tv
witnesssing most horrable scenes
being an army of millions
just giving NO reaction
except when
you would throw away that apathy
and start DOING something
no, not waisting your time
I mean well thought of
you are millions they can NEVER control you
if too many at the same time!
STAND UP AND TAKE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but take care!
don’t believe who will pretend to be weRchangers!
so only
follow God in you
stop watching your own destruction
good luck!
God bless you all!
June 25th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Show me one example in the entire historical record (before Alex Jones was born) which makes the claim that the owl is a symbol of Moloch.
This is a challenge.
In fact, if you value not being sheeple, all of you would have conducted the above investigation without prompting. It doesn’t even need to be uttered it is so obvious and elementary.
This does not mean that the bohos are not evil or that they do not worship at the altar of an owl. It ONLY means that Moloch is NOT, nor has ever been, a friggin owl, nutjobs. It is absurd. Moloch is not an owl; neither is santi klaus or the smurfs or Randy Rhoads or infowars.com. All kinds of things are NOT symbolic of Moloch.
(In the meantime, see comments 11, 13, 31, 37, 46)
June 25th, 2008 at 9:40 am
ShadowDancer… The Beast I refer to that comes from the sea {collective of the people or spirits of the earth} it has seven heads { all the continents } and ten heads{leaders, rulers, Union agreement} This is the political global beast that rules the earth. Then shall come the second beast out of the earth which refers to a specific Man. Mystery= Unknown Babylon from the word babel = Confusion .The Great= World in scope and admired and hailed. Who is like the Beast? Who can make war with it?This is stated in the revelation of John, If the world falls under one rule like Babylon of old No one could wage war upon it.
June 25th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Sorry I meant ten Horns { symbolic as leaders rulers Kings}
June 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am
the 11th horn that rises up is the antichrist. Father says NWO on 9/11 and the towers are hit on 9/11. was it 90 or 91 that he made the NWO speach? if it was ‘90, there is another 11 and a sickening symbolism
June 25th, 2008 at 11:59 am
MOLECH IS A COCKSUCKER
All you bohemiam grove goer’s
are worshipping a cocksucker
June 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
http://www.thereignofchrist.org
Masonic-Zionism, is the Red Dragon. (Masonry or
Freemasonry represent ‘government,’ while Zionism
represents money). This ‘association’ will be replaced by
a particular man, who is the devil incarnate. This man
remains hidden and in the background for the time being,
directing all opposition to God the Father, the God of all
Creation, as he tries to subject the whole world to his
diabolical government and money order. The present
system of world dominance by evil is most sinister to say
the least. The powers of evil are now in control of the
design, manufacturing, and distribution of weapons of
mass destruction and are so complete, that no nation upon
the earth at this time can oppose these evil powers. Today
this evil is government controlled by the angels of Satan,
tomorrow it will be Satan incarnate as stated above who
will be in control of this evil. These powers of evil
government control oil production, taxation of the
populace, and nations ‘right’ to exist, as long as those
nations submit to their particular form of ‘democracy.’ “I
heard, as it were a voice in the midst of the four living
creatures, saying: ‘Two pounds of wheat for a penny, and
thrice two pounds of barley for a penny, and see you hurt
not the wine and the oil.’”30 The penny is the smallest
denomination of money, and here it represents the poor in
their struggle to pay for the minimal goods necessary for
survival. The oil represents the power of control by evil,
and the wine represents the luxury which can only be
enjoyed by the money-powers. The evil powers forbid
anyone to tamper with their control and luxury. The entire
earth is slave to their system.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
this was awefull, maybe save a couple bucks and buy a soundtrack, midi-files are fucking ancient. also, maybe use some modern-era clips. 1980 was 26 years ago. LAME!!!!! also, what the fuck did jfks head blown up add to this lame clip show (of other peoples work). this was pure shit. way to fill your site up with shit alex jones company
June 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I wqs banned off the prison planit forum for posting the the meaning of molech in Hebrew. It means King. That dont mean anything to all those who got their nose all brown from the Alex of Ass’s.
It just means King and and it is Ashkenazi Hebrew. I never sudied Serfardic hebrew so I dont know what Molech means in Serardic hebrew.
I can tell you this The forum at PP has removed facts about the BAR association and deleted my posts on the matter as well as ket point a guy named Cruise4 posted on using tones and sound siduals on the radio.
I Came here to investigate Alex Jones and his goons. I can say with out a doubt he is an Agent.
Thats right Alex Jones is an Agent pushing sheep from one pen to the next.
Molech means King.
Alex is a Jack amoung Ass’s.
One eyed Jack = Half wit
June 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
These people are totally sick.They have all the power they want,so they have very little to do at the end.They have “non classical”games and fun,they need something more and Bohemian Club is what they have chosen to have fun. May be the owl,satan,bad spirits…whatever.They are sick people.They are not afraid of death at all because they think they are THE Iluminatti.
Be sure they are going to destroy everything opposite their plan as they have done during the last century but now they don´t worry about nothing even people shouting to them “murderers”as Alex have been doing during the Bilderbergs meeting this month.
But soberbia will kill them all.They are not happy people at all,Haven´t you seen their faces?
God always wins and He wants us to be happy. They will all burn together.In the meanwhile we must warn the most people as we can,otherwise these murderers plans will catch them up without knowing anything at all.
God will help us to do our job.
Bless you all.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
hahahahahaha, these videos must be a joke…
the epitome of amateur.
wtf alex??? you aren’t seriously pushing this are you?
June 25th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Nowarchy, your post makes no sense, first of all and again, the word god is not Hebrew at all, the word god means nothing in Hebrew, all Hebrew words have a meaning, it comes from the useless greek and Germanic states and means the sun, as in sun god worshi0ers which the Greek in particular are, you are a liar, while I am no Hebrew aficionado, I am a student of the Greek and all one needs do to learn Hebrew is get a concordance and or interlinear scripture.
If you were banned, you couldn’t have made that asinine comment and in as much as you are baselessly attacking Alex, it can only mean you are the disinfo agent.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I couldn’t agree more Red Dawn.Very well said…
Since Alex posted my documentary on his websites,and even quoted from my article today on his radio show about the famous (Or should I say “Infamous”) “Masons” Albert Pike and Manly P. Hall…
I have noticed a sharp increase in attacks to Alex,me (and others) The dis-info agents are coming out of the woodwork like the little TERMITES that they are.
This makes it clear to me (and should to ALL) that we have struck a MAJOR nerve,or else we wouldn’t be getting such a reaction.
Make no mistake about it.We are now attacking the proverbial jugular vein of the NWO in this INFOWAR,and I say that we ALL should increase our attacks against these SATANIC “Molech Worshippers” and REALLY show the WORLD who THEY are,and what THEY are REALLY about!
Remember…THEY meet up next month at “The Bohemian Grove” for their RITUAL SACRIFICE! (Which explains them running around like little COCKROACHES when you turn on the LIGHT)
Wether it is a real sacrifice or not…What these people believe,and the things that they have done,are doing,and WILL do! Is so EVIL that there are really no words to fully describe it.
Fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus,and ALL lovers of FREEDOM and TRUTH all over this WORLD… I ask that you PLEASE HELP ME TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS!
Call EVERYONE that you know,Email EVERYONE in your lists,Post my Article to your blogs and Websites…Let’s show the WORLD once and for all what we are TRULY up against.Let everyone know what is happening here at this site,let them join in on the debate,and the FIGHT! We’ve got them “Dazed and Confused” and “Up against the ropes”.WE CAN’T LET UP NOW! RISE UP AND JOIN US IN THIS INFOWAR!!!
YEAAAHHHHHHHH!!!
OwlMan
June 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Down with the new world order and its Molech worshipping evil religion. I have seen some great posts and I can tell who is really getting informed. I like to see that. I can also see who is asleep and it always starts with a put down or cut down of a person. The uninformed that respond to these posts and never takes the time to google anything they read about or watch and step outside of the box or matrix. Sometimes its good to go out of the comfort zone. Just be prepared to see a lot of things that are not pretty or as you thought. Take time to research and learn that 2 sides exist to almost everything and sometimes more. So take what you can and learn. To all of you who are awake, keep looking and learning and never quit because we cannot afford to quit the infowar. I must say Alex is doing a great job and his work is in my opinion is the greatest you can find and god bless him and his family and friends and may they continue to resist the evil and enjoy every happy moment they can in these stressful times. DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER>
June 25th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Amen to that Wes!
June 25th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Alex what happened to the videos above they have been taken down!!! Can you believe YouTube….”boot lickers”.
Alex thanks for ALL you do and everyone else who helps make this movement to proceed. More and more people are waking up and doing something about it….
Your friend,
Mel.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
yeah the end of this movie was shockingly funny… these videos are a joke just like most of the propaganda on this site… most of the stories are good but shit like this video is fucking ridiculous. Also I love how people try to act hard while leaving a comment.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
These videos have NOT been taking down.They are still up and running.Just wanted to correct that…
As for some of the other comments on here… This video is listed in the top #10 search results in Google under “Molech”.It has a 4 and a half star rating (out of a possible 5) and it has been rated over 200 times,and (as of this writing) it has over 72,000 views… (To The Lord Jesus Christ go ALL of the Glory,Honor,and Praise!)…
My point is that some of these comments (About Me,Alex and others) are a clear cut case of either “Dis-info” agents, and/or a little of this…
“Wrath is cruel,and anger is outrageous; but WHO is able to stand before ENVY”? – Proverbs 27:4
To the real TRUTH seekers and INFOWARRIORS out there,and those helping me to spread the word about this IMPORTANT issue… I thank you from the bottom of my heart…May The Lord Jesus Christ bless you MIGHTILY!
OwlMan
June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Kyrie Elieison, Christe Eleison, Deo Gratias.
repent and change your ways those that follow the hollow stone image
for the disinfo agents: get behind me satan
June 26th, 2008 at 10:51 am
At the risk of really offending the christians out there, I think our culture needs an “occult literacy” course so people can crack their language and symbols without kissing ass their way up the degrees.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Yeah, Moloch has never been an owl. Alex, wtf with this amateurish bs video? And please, people, stop praying to god to save us from the NWO. God is imaginary and religion is used by the elite to eliminate your capacity for rational thought and critical thinking.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
“A man’s gift maketh room for him,and bringeth him before great men” – Proverbs 18:16
“Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John,and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men,they marvelled;and they took knowledge of them,that they had been with Jesus” – Acts 4:13
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God” – Psalm 14:1
June 26th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
fog studying the occult–just slay anyone you mildly suspect. GOD
June 26th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
In response to #77 (and others) about this recurring (and IMHO) IRRELEVANT question of “Molech” being the owl… I have a dictionary here that was printed in the 50’s (Long before Alex was born).It says and I quote…
1.”In the Bible,a god of the ancient phoenicians and Ammonites,to whom CHILDREN were SACRIFICED by BURNING!
2.ANYTHING REGARDED AS DEMANDING TERRIBLE SACRIFICE! (Emphasis Mine)…
The point is this…If the sacrifice is REAL,then I would call the SACRIFICING OF LITTLE CHILDREN EXTREMELY DEMANDING and TERRIBLE!!! Wouldn’t you? WHO WOULDN’T?
And even “if” the sacrifice is only an “Effigy”,what is NOT in dispute is that THEY (NWO) ADMIT THIS IN THEIR OWN WORDS! That it is a “CREMATION OF CARE”…A sacrifice symbolizing their “Cares” for YOU,Your CHILDREN,Their CONSCIENCE,and indeed their very SOULS (Exodus 20:3-5) So that THEY CAN KILL OFF 80 TO 90% OF ALL OF YOU!!! (of US) without even losing sleep over it!!!
If it is the latter,then I would ALSO call this an EXTREMELY DEMANDING TERRIBLE SACRIFICE!!! Wouldn’t you? Again…WHO WOULDN’T???
Watch “The Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings” (VOL 1 and 2) and you will see how these EVIL idolators change their “gods” from one generation to another,from not only male to female (and visa versa) but also to a different animal…etc
For Example… “Enoch” (The man who walked with God,and God took him up).Well the egyptians thought he was a “god”and called him by one name,and the Greeks/Romas (Whoever else) also thought that,but called him by another name,and had totally different statues,forms,and drawings representing the SAME person……
Just as you now see that big statue of liberty holding up the torch in N.Y. Well her name isn’t JUST “The Statue of Liberty”.Her FULL NAME is “The GODDESS Liberty enlightening The World” (Given to us by MASONS in France).Well go back in history,and you will see that there are MANY representations and different “forms” of this “god/goddess”,from “The Colossus of Rhodes”,to “Isis”,to “Columbia”…etc…etc
Likewise,Molech (Or “Moloch”) WAS represented by a “Bull”,but NOW THEY use the OWL to represent this SAME “god”… It’s really very simple…But if you can’t understand that…Then let me put it another way…
I don’t care if President Bush himself walked in my door,and said “Hey OwlMan,you know we don’t call that thing Molech don’t you? It’s real name is BARNEY”! (Or mickey mouse,winnie the poo,or “big stony”,or BIG BUBBA!…etc)
All I do KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF ANY DOUBT is that WHATEVER the hell it’s name is…
The damned thing DEMANDS A TERRIBLE SACRIFICE,and my old dictionary (and MANY other sources online) calls that a “Molech”…
And given THEY also SACRIFICE (”Effigy” or NOT) a CHILD to this thing by BURNING it (Or him/her) alive!!! (Just as with the Biblical “Molech”) Then that is only yet ANOTHER reason to call this thing MOLECH….And there is no dispute here that “It” IS represented by an “owl” (We have pictures and videos of the THING).
So to sum up…
*We have EVIL IDOLATORS putting different faces,names,and FORMS on the SAME EXACT “god” (Which is ULTIMATELY SATAN himself) over generations…
*My Bible uses the term “Molech” in describing SACRIFICING CHILDREN BY FIRE to a false “god”…
*My dictionary calls that a Molech…
*Alex Jones calls that a Molech,Texe Marrs…I could go on and on,and on…
THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME! So “I” too am calling the damned thing MOLECH!!!
So let it be written,so let it be DONE!
The REAL question is…WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SACRIFICING OF CHILDREN AND/OR “CARE” BY OUR WORLD “LEADERS” WHILE DRESSED IN ROBES,AND HAVING HOMOSEXUAL ORGIES,WHILE AT THE SAME TIME COMING UP WITH THINGS LIKE THE MANHATTAN PROJECT,STAR WARS PROGRAM,AND THE “END GAME” OF KILLING OFF OVER 80% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION!!!???!!!???!!!???
WHILE YOU ARE ARGUING OVER ANIMALS,”TYPOS”,AND WETHER PEOPLE ARE “AGENTS” OR NOT….
THEY ARE PLANNING ON FREAKING KILLING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!!????????
OwlMan
June 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Owlman is 100% correct people, study your history of molech if you don’t think his presentation is correct.
June 27th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
96 thuvia Says:
June 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Yeah, Moloch has never been an owl. Alex, wtf with this amateurish bs video? And please, people, stop praying to god to save us from the NWO. God is imaginary and religion is used by the elite to eliminate your capacity for rational thought and critical thinking.
RESPONSE:
Thuvia, you have been created by a Creator – God the Creator of the Universe – if you want evidence of this, just look all around you (trees, sky, planets, stars). Better yet, just look in the mirror – you think your parents know how to create life?? You think something such as the sex act creates life itself? Who do you think created the sex act? Who created all things seen and unseen? All the Answers and much much more is all in the bible – read it sometime and you’ll really be able to put this whole NWO & Molech thing into real profound perspective. The problem is we need to rely more on Him (God) than ourselves and not just rely on our own rational thought and critical thinking.
June 27th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Amen…
June 27th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Mike, god is imaginary. I’m sorry that you’ve been hoodwinked by whatever religion you’ve been indoctrinated into, but the answer to life is the natural sciences–physics and biology, not some airy fairy invisible being doing nothing an plotting our eternal damnation.
The bible has been written and rewritten and written again by men with serious agendas and power trips. I have read it, studied it even, and it is so wrought with fantasy and contradiction that I cannot believe that anyone still takes it seriously. Fortunately, I don’t need to filter my world view through a book of fiction filled with rapes and murders and episodes of mass destruction to understand what the power elite is doing. I can use my reason and my intellect, which is what I urge everyone to do.
We’re all atheists anyway, even you crazy bible-thumpers. I’m just an atheist with regard to one more god than you.
I do apologize, however, for using Alex’s valuable bandwidth with this conversation, as I’m fairly sure this space is intended for discussion about the NWO and not our views on gods (or the lack thereof). I invite you to visit my blog and comment on any of my atheist posts if you’d like to continue this.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Look guys, it takes way more faith to be an athiest. You think you know everything because Darwin said we used to be monkeys, and Sagan said we banged out of nothing. Dawkins says we could have come from an alien race…..excuse me? Where did the aliens come from Dawkins. You guys act so smart when it comes to your atheism. The pain of being your own god. Please. If we were spawned off of crystals like some say, show me some freaking proof. Apparently there IS evidence of humans about 5,000 years ago. Before that nothing. Monkey bones and dinosaur fossils dont prove anything. They found red blood cells in a t-rex a few years ago!!! Please don’t tell me it was 65 million years old. Thats horse shit. All the dinosaurs were buried in sediment during the flood which was recorded in every culture across the planet. The bible is true, and it is the scientists who just want to disprove god so they don’t have to obey him. Same old story. They worshipped Molech now and then. And what other document is older and more complete than the bible? Nothing that’s what. You want to take the oldest most verified document and history and throw it out when you do your science? That is beyond foolish. Might as well join Dawkins and say that squirrels are really aliens that control us, and that they evolved from larger more intelligent squirrels that grew on martian crystals before coming to this earth to rule us. Dawkins what an idiot. So be an athieist. Chickens evolved from tyranosaurus rex. Ok people. I really feel sorry for you.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
You are all morons. There isn’t a god? Then what/who created the universe?????????? Earth?????
What guides the elite and makes them sooo insane and hell bent on controlling everything? Why do they rush to their doom? What force directs them?
Answer that! And don’t say “the universe exploded from nothing and formed on it’s own”.
90% of the human race is completley retarted, I am convinced!
June 27th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I decided to write this article about this recurring (and IMHO) IRRELEVANT question of wether “Molech” is represented by the “Owl” or not,and I fully intend to settle this matter and put this to rest ONCE AND FOR ALL!
I have a dictionary here that was printed in the 1950’s (Long before Alex Jones was born).It says and I quote…
“Molech” (Also “Moloch”)…
1.”In the Bible,a god of the ancient phoenicians and Ammonites,to whom CHILDREN were SACRIFICED by BURNING!
2.ANYTHING REGARDED AS DEMANDING TERRIBLE SACRIFICE! (Emphasis Mine)…
The point is this…
If the sacrifice is REAL,then I would call the SACRIFICING OF LITTLE CHILDREN EXTREMELY DEMANDING and TERRIBLE!!! Wouldn’t you? WHO WOULDN’T?
And even “if” the sacrifice is only an “Effigy”,what is NOT in dispute is that THEY (NWO) ADMIT TO THIS IN THEIR OWN WORDS! That it IS a “CREMATION OF CARE”…A sacrifice symbolizing their “Cares” for YOU,Your CHILDREN,Their CONSCIENCE,and indeed their very SOULS (Exodus 20:3-5) So that THEY CAN KILL OFF 80 TO 90% OF ALL OF YOU!!! (of US) without even batting an eye,or losing sleep over it!!!
If it is the latter,then I would ALSO call this an EXTREMELY DEMANDING TERRIBLE SACRIFICE!!! Wouldn’t you? Again…WHO WOULDN’T???
Watch “The Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings” (VOL 1 and 2) and you will see how these EVIL “Mystery Religion” idolators change their “gods” from one generation to another,from not only male to female (and visa versa) but also to a different form or animal…etc
For Example… “Enoch” (The man who walked with God – Genesis 5:24).Well the egyptians thought he was a “god”and called him by one name,and the Greeks/Romans also thought that,but called him by another name,and had totally different statues,forms,and paintings representing the SAME “god”……
Just as you now see that big “Statue of Liberty” holding up the torch in N.Y. Well her name isn’t JUST “The Statue of Liberty”.Her FULL NAME is “The GODDESS Liberty enlightening The World” (LOOK IT UP! “She” was given to us by MASONS in France).Well go back in history,and you will see that there are MANY representations and different “forms” of this same EXACT “god/goddess”…From “The Colossus of Rhodes”,to “Isis”,to “Columba” (Columbia)…etc…etc
Likewise,Molech (Or “Moloch”) WAS represented by a “Bull”,but NOW THEY use the OWL to represent this SAME “god”… It’s really VERY simple…but you (ANYONE) would be hard pressed to find a specific date,time,writing or decree by these people where they said something like:
“We hereby make a decree that we are changing the name of the Egyptian Isis “Queen of Heaven” to the Roman goddess “Liberta”,and then later again,”Columba” (Columbia),to the now “The goddess Liberty”…
It would be STUPID for a “Secret Society”,”Mystery School Religion” to announce that PUBLICLY and broadcast it to THE WORLD! Or they wouldn’t remain “Secret” very long now would they? (Click on my screenname for more information)…
But if you can’t understand that…Then let me put it this way…
I don’t care if President Bush himself walked in my door,and said “Hey OwlMan,you know we don’t call that thing Molech don’t you? It’s real name is BARNEY”! (Or mickey mouse,winnie the poo,or “big stony”,or BIG BUBBA!…etc)
What I do KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF ANY DOUBT is that WHATEVER the hell it’s name is…
The damned thing DEMANDS A TERRIBLE SACRIFICE,and my old dictionary (and MANY other sources online) calls that a “Molech”…
And given THEY also SACRIFICE (”Effigy” or NOT) a CHILD to this thing by BURNING it (Or him/her) ALIVE!!! (Just as with the Biblical “Molech”) Then that is only yet ANOTHER reason to call this thing MOLECH….And there is no dispute here that “It” IS represented by an “Owl” (Alex took pictures and videos of the THING,and the “Bohemian Club” have put out their OWN books with pictures of it in there).
So to sum up…
*We have EVIL IDOLATORS putting different faces,names,and FORMS on the SAME EXACT “god” throughout history over generations…
*The Bible uses the term “Molech” in describing SACRIFICING CHILDREN BY FIRE to a false “god”…
*My dictionary calls that a Molech…
*Alex Jones calls that a Molech,Texe Marrs…I could go on and on,and on…
THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME! So “I” too am calling the damned thing MOLECH!!!
So let it be written,so let it be DONE!
The REAL question is…
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SACRIFICING OF LITTLE CHILDREN (”Effigy” or NOT) AND/OR “CARE” BY OUR SO-CALLED “LEADERS” WHILE WEARING BLACK ROBES AND HAVING HOMOSEXUAL ORGIES (WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GETTING UP ON T.V. AND PRETENDING TO BE CHRISTIANS!)
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM INVENTING THINGS LIKE THE “ATOMIC BOMB”, AND “THE STAR WARS PROGRAM” (Both of which were conceived at “THE BOHEMIAN GROVE” before the “Owl”!) WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEIR ULTIMATE “ENDGAME” PLAN OF KILLING OFF OVER 80% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION!!!
WHILE YOU ARE ARGUING OVER NAMES,ANIMALS,”TYPOS”,WETHER PEOPLE ARE “AGENTS” OR NOT,AND OTHER TOTALLY IRRELEVANT CRAP!!!….
THEY ARE PLANNING ON FREAKING KILLING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY QUESTION…MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS…
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!!??????!!!
OwlMan
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Sorry to break to ya, OwlMan, but your intellect is laughable. When you say: “but NOW THEY use the OWL to represent this SAME ‘god’… It’s really very simple…” you are a laughing stock. That is not research, you dumb ass; and you haven’t proved anything. Throwing pixelized pictures and a few inane words on to the screen is not research, either.
Truth still means things to people. If you call a horse a cat, many will get pissed as well.
The Bohemian Grove fucktards worship Athena/Minerva. And guess what? So did the real Bavarian Illuminati. So does the Hegelian Society of America. And guess what? I prove it in my forthcoming book. (Perfectibilists by Terry Melanson).
Quote: “Alex took pictures and videos of the THING”
Answer: Ya, he took pictures of an owl. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Quote: “My dictionary calls that a Molech”
Answer: Your dictionary has never, nor will ever call Molech an owl. Period. Likewise, ditto for the Bible. Never, ever has Moloch been identified as an owl – especially not by God.
This has really gone way too far. Alex Jones needs to fess up on the air. It’s an owl. Good. But it ain’t Moloch.
See this: Freeman – Owl isn’t Molech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_gGnaHcdQ
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Mr. Orwells Ghost sounds like a Blavatsky-loving Theosophist. Your Jesuits-rule-the-world bullshit comes directly from those yahoos (Masons, Bavarian Illuminati, and Theosophists) – you know that, don’t you? You and your Phelps-loving gang are the direct descendants of the rabid anti-catholic Freemasons cum Bavarian Illuminati cum Theosophical occultists.
Ohh…watch out for the boogey man; cause he wear’s a black robe. Frightening!
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Hey Terry, thats pretty good stuff you have there.
I went to your website and checked out a link that had excerpts from your book.
I believe Knigge was right in 1784…
Weishaupt was Jesuit.
All that anti-Jesuit hocus pocus propaganda was just to trick all the New Agers and the Illuminati was to be a New Age Movement like no other. The ruse was to manipulate the New Agers against the Church and to use Masonry to manipulate the French Revolution, at the end of which the Jesuits were brought out of retirement after 2 Popes were taken prisoner for the span of 13 years.
As for the Bohemian Grove…
Jesuits founded the Grove and were forced to hand it over to the Franciscans in 1773.
The Bohemian Groves Patron Saint is John Nepomuk.
Saint John Nepomuk is a complete fabrication by the Jesuits.
A melding of the stories of Jan Huss and another Jan that had been drowned and it was done to steal conversions away from Protestants in Bohemia during the Counter-Reformation.
I am curious, have you seen my videos?
I have a Minerva vs Molech video and it has some of the same observations plus a few others.
I would like to do an interview with you at some point, myself and a few others have website that will be launched officially for the 4th of July and we would have much to discuss for our future broadcasts.
O.G.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Well I guess we were writing our response at the same time.
Guess I wont be buying your book.
The answer is right under your nose and you refuse to even look at it.
I guess its because its not about the truth with you and its more about selling your own propaganda.
I have much better research than you do.
I just havent bothered to profit from it like you have.
I am not a Phelps lover… fuck Phelps.
My research has nothing to do with Mr Phelps and I have never bothered to read his book.
Him and I dont even get along, but nice try.
Guess the Illuminati rule everything, because Terry Melanson says so.
What a laugh.
Very mature response Terry.
You almost had me tricked into thinking you knew what the hell you were talking about.
So you assume Weishaupt was really anti-Jesuit and Knigge was full of shit then.
How sad.
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Monolithic conspiracies are for small minds. No one group bakes, owns, and sells all the cookies.
or myself, I specialize in 18th Century history. I know the Jesuits, the Freemasons, and the Bavarian Illuminati inside out. I know who was a Mason, and who was a Jesuit. I know who wrote against the Jesuits and who didn’t. I know when the Freemasonic conflation with the Jesuits first began. I know that Weishaupt was only educated by them; he wasn’t one of them.
There’s all kinds of things I know – and aren’t just guessing at. Phelps doesn’t know jack about the Enlightenment.
OG said: “I believe Knigge was right in 1784″
I’ve translated exactly what he said from the Original Writings of the Illuminati. I have them right here in front of my face. The Catholic Encyclopedia’s translation was a bit off – I make no claim of why, only that it was not what I would have translated the passage as. Knigge called Weishaupt a, quote, “latent Jesuit,” because of the latter’s despotism and dictatorial demeanor. The entire letter of Knigge to Zwack is quite interesting. Knigge tells Zwack that Weishaupt had him scheming and plotting against the Rosicrucians and the Jesuits; had him even write a book about the complots of the two groups.
OG said: “Weishaupt was Jesuit.
Nope. Only educated by them. Was not a priest, nor a Jesuit. Despised and hated them with all his being. I have his words saying as much. And I have the words of the Jesuits who hated him too. The feeling was mutual. He was nearly fired from his job because they couldn’t believe that his godfather had appointed a secularist as professor of Canon Law. The Jesuits who still managed to stay at Ingolstadt succeeded in causing Weishaupt’s salary to be withheld. Imagine how much the guy hated them! The Jesuits were target number one. It is the reason why he made the Illuminati in the first place.
Real history. Not made up.
His Illuminati made an industry out of “Jesuit Hunting”
OG: “I just havent bothered to profit from it like you have.”
I was commissioned to write the book because of one article I wrote.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.c.....minati.htm
Within 5 hours I was offered the deal. It needs to be done right (back to primary sources), so I agreed.
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I did not say the Jesuits were baking all the cookies.
I know this shit inside out even better than you do.
Weishaupt, in your book you yourself have in there that Weishaupt was a Jesuit.
So you call him one yourself you walking contradiction.
He was raised til the age of 5 by his Jesuit father and then by his Jesuit Godfather.
And he took up their positions as Professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt.
No Weishaupt was not a Jesuit Priest, but that does not mean he was not a Jesuit.
You obviously know nothing of them if you dont realize that.
You think Weishaupt just became anti-Jesuit one day when he was raised and trained by them all his life? That was only because of the 1773 Suppression of them, had they not been suppressed he would have remained a good little Jesuit.
I like your info on Minerva owl being at the Grove, but I suspect that you got that from me.
I have real history right here for you buddy.
Read Americans Warned of Jesuitism, Proofs of Conspiracy, which I imagine you at least have heard of, and the John Adams letter to Thomas Jefferson written in 1816.
So you calling me a half wit you are also calling our greatest founding fathers half wits.
Drop Phelps already, I done told you I dont think he knows jack.
You assumed I was a big fan of his and you were wrong.
Dead wrong.
Just like you are dead wrong.
You have some decent stuff it appears, but you are missing out on much.
You assume you know this information greater than I do.
If that were the case I doubt you would have used my research for your book.
I dont know of any other researcher that used the information you presented about Minerva and the Bohemian Grove other than from what I have done. You even have the same pics I used in my video. So did you plagiarize the whole thing? Just by glancing I can tell you borrowed heavily from Robison.
Why did you have to be such an asshole?
We could have learned a lot from one another but you wanted to be a dick.
There arent too many people thats familiar with all this information.
So drop the act like you know more than I do and talk with me on Skype.
Orwells_Ghost.
A lot can still come from our conversation and perhaps we can correct each other where we are wrong. Unless this isnt about the truth for you.
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 pm
“Why did you have to be such an asshole? We could have learned a lot from one another but you wanted to be a dick.”
You’re the one being a dick now. I was, for calling you a Phelps-loving whatever, but now you gone and went ballistic yourself because I had the nerve to give you the straight dope on the Bavarian Illuminati. I don’t play on this subject. This is MY area.
Where in the hell do you think Robison learned of the Illuminati? … from the Original Writings of the Illuminati confiscated and printed by order of the Bavarian Elector in 1787 – that’s where. And that’s what I have in my house. Right here in front of me. Primary documents, bub. All 800 friggin pages of pure Illuminati in their own words.
I don’t have Skype nor do I wish to “chat” … but I can be reached by email here:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Contact/
I did watch many of your videos now. The latest one from Clinton talking ’bout Jesuitical Arguments is pretty good. And no, I’m not one of those who’s afraid of taking Jesuits.
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
You could not even point to where I was wrong in my first post.
You just called me an idiot and that was that.
Point to where I am wrong.
If you can.
Barruel was a Jesuit and thats why he tried to influence Robisons work, and have the blame put on the Jacobins.
And its why you got an offer to publish your book to I am guessing, because your final conclusion does not get to the source.
Sorry to be the one to have to tell you that, but your conclusion leads to a dead end.
The fact is Weishaupt would have not got anywhere with his little secret society that he structured off the Jesuits. If you know this era as well as you claim you do you would know that.
Plus you leave out why Knigge quit the Illuminati in the first place.
You only quote 1 little thing from him.
He quit for 2 reasons.
1. He learned Weishaupt was bring in ex-Jesuit Priests to fill in the highest positions of power within the Illuminati that he and Weishaupt had set aside and left vacant.
2. Weishaupt began tweaking with Knigges ceremonies, when he was supposed to be the Master of Ceremonies.
Why do you think Weishaupt chose the name Illuminati over the Perfectibilists?
Could it be because the Alumbrados were behind the creation of the Jesuit Order… gasp.
Loyola and Borgia were Alumbrados.
And what does Alumbrados mean?
The Illuminated Ones, and Loyola used to call his Jesuit flock Illumned Ones.
Point to where I am wrong.
If you can.
You are falling for Jesuitical Arguments by the likes of Weishaupt and Barruel.
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:46 pm
So Terry stated
“Where in the hell do you think Robison learned of the Illuminati? … from the Original Writings of the Illuminati confiscated and printed by order of the Bavarian Elector in 1787 – that’s where. And that’s what I have in my house. Right here in front of me. Primary documents, bub. All 800 friggin pages of pure Illuminati in their own words.”
If you have such a document then why hold it secret?
It seems that you are as much of a gatekeeper as Phelps and Alex Jones
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Terry Wrote
“I was commissioned to write the book because of one article I wrote.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.c…..minati.htm
Within 5 hours I was offered the deal. It needs to be done right (back to primary sources), so I agreed.”
You really own that site?
Why do you publish articles and fail to credit the authors?
How truthful is that? Why should anyone believe anything you say?
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Terry States
“I was commissioned to write the book because of one article I wrote.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.c…..minati.htm
Within 5 hours I was offered the deal. It needs to be done right (back to primary sources), so I agreed.”
So you own this site?
Why do you not give credit to the authors that really wrote some of the articles that you post?
How truthful is that?
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Well the Jesuits are MY area of expertise and I dont play with this subject either.
And you just took a big dump on it for no good reason.
You didnt even bother to look into it in the least.
“All 800 friggin pages of pure Illuminati in their own words.”
Thats one of your glaring major errors is that you are taking the Illumianti and Weishaupt for their words.
I know you have seen my videos, you did not have to tell me that.
I see it in your work.
I tried to be cool and rational with you.
You can not fault me for being a dick when you took a dump on my research without pointing to a single thing that was wrong with anything I posted.
I know you dont want to chat with me about this.
No one ever does.
They want to talk shit in message boards and emails, but they dont want to be shown up in audio or a video being made a fool of.
But thats cool.
Believe what you want to.
You want to think the Illuminati are all that and a bag of chips, be my guest.
With the information you already posses I can show you exactly how the Jesuits were pulling the Illuminati strings from the very beginning.
But you dont want that, because it will mean your book is wrong.
I will email you later tonight you can bet on that.
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:17 pm
“Point to where I am wrong. If you can.”
I am trying to work, but I’ll bite anyway.
“Barruel was a Jesuit and thats why he tried to influence Robisons work, and have the blame put on the Jacobins.”
You are really an amateur. Barruel didn’t try to influence anyone. Robison and Barruel wrote two separate works unbeknownst to each other. Barruel’s thesis was a bit more complicated than just blaming the Jacobins.
“And its why you got an offer to publish your book to I am guessing, because your final conclusion does not get to the source.”
You are a very paranoid person; I can see that. Everything is plots and conspiracies of monolithic proportions.
“Sorry to be the one to have to tell you that, but your conclusion leads to a dead end.”
My conclusion? Huh? What needs to be concluded? History does not have a conclusion. Real history presents the facts and the damn author just shuts his trap – because if he opened it, it would just confuse the hell out of people anyway and play into his particular ideological proclivity.
“He quit for 2 reasons.”
“1. He learned Weishaupt was bring in ex-Jesuit Priests to fill in the highest positions”
“2. Weishaupt began tweaking with Knigges ceremonies”
One is wrong. He didn’t learn no such thing. You pulled that out of your ass.
Two is wrong as well. Knigge was the one who “tweaked” at the behest of Weishaupt.
Knigge quit because he had had enough of the bickering and power maneuvering with Weishaupt. Yes Knigge was the cause of the Order’s sudden rise to prominence; yes Knigge was the mastermind behind the highest rituals of the Illuminati. What happened was, Weishaupt became extremely jealous of Knigge. If Knigge didn’t quit, he would have been kicked out anyway.
“Why do you think Weishaupt chose the name Illuminati over the Perfectibilists?”
Weishaupt tells us why himself. In plain English …err, German!
It’s because Perfectibilists was insufficiently mysterious. Illuminati was more esoteric-sounding – so that’s what they settled on. Hell, in 1779 he almost changed the name again, to: Society of the Bees or the Republic of the Bees.
“Could it be because the Alumbrados were behind the creation of the Jesuit Order… gasp.
Loyola and Borgia were Alumbrados.”
Nope. The answer is an unequivocal no. Plain and simple. The mystic 16th century Alumbrados had nothing whatsoever to do with the rationalistic 18th century Bavarian Illuminati. It is meaningless to compare the two.
“And what does Alumbrados mean? The Illuminated Ones, and Loyola used to call his Jesuit flock Illumned Ones.”
Bravo. Want a lollipop?
“He was raised til the age of 5 by his Jesuit father and then by his Jesuit Godfather. And he took up their positions as Professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt.”
Johann George Weishaupt (1717-1753) was not a Jesuit. He hated Jesuits. Weishaupt’s father was professor of imperial institutions and criminal law at Ingolstadt University – nothing more, nothing less. He was appointed that position by Johann Adam Baron von Ickstatt (1702-1776), who was the rector of the University. Ickstatt was a Jesuit hater. Even before 1773 he was trying to rid his University of them. Weishaupt and Ickstatt were the two most prominent anti-Jesuits in the entire University. The struggle against the Jesuits was initiated and sustained by them. That’s the way it went down, bub.
Any more lessons you like to take, please send inquiries via email.
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Ohh you’ve got a little friend with ya. Figures you’d need back up.
Re Mr. bannedrock: I am in the process of translating the Original Writings of the Illuminati in their entirety right as we speak – or the first time ever in the English language.
They will be posted in installments at the following address:
http://www.bavarian-illuminati.info/
“Why do you not give credit to the authors that really wrote some of the articles that you post?
How truthful is that?”
Be very precise. Exactly what in the hell are you talking about?
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I nearly forgot who this Terry guy was.
The same person who has been stating he was getting his Illuminati book published for over 2 years.
The same person that stated he magically had all the answers and no beef.
Releasing information for truth is much different than releasing evidence for profit
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
“Releasing information for truth is much different than releasing evidence for profit ”
It’s a friggin book, you yayas. You have heard of books before, haven’t you?
You damn right I expect to profit off of it; and I’ll milk it for all she’s worth – and then some. Blood sweat and tears. Everything in my life has suffered as a result of the inordinate amount of time I have dedicated to this project. I haven’t received anything yet except a small advance; but have lost boat loads money because of the hours I put into it when I could have been doing something else.
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
“You are really an amateur. Barruel didn’t try to influence anyone. Robison and Barruel wrote two separate works unbeknownst to each other. Barruel’s thesis was a bit more complicated than just blaming the Jacobins. ”
Haha whos the amateur?
Boy did you just stick your foot in your mouth.
Barruel did not work independently.
He started his work as a result of Robison and he beat Robison to the printers.
And I did not say thats all his book was about, blaming the Jacobins…
but come on now, Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism.
What do you want, me to write an entire thesis on his thesis?
Give me a break.
I said: And its why you got an offer to publish your book to I am guessing, because your final conclusion does not get to the source.
“You are a very paranoid person; I can see that. Everything is plots and conspiracies of monolithic proportions.”
Oh, ok. Well I guess you aren’t paranoid enough. You get a book offer 5 hours after you write an article? Give up your monolithic BS. I already told you there is something behind the Jesuit Order AND the Vatican itself. That does not change the fact that the Jesuits were behind YOUR Illuminati and that they are the greatest danger we face. So you can give that Monolitihc crap a rest because it is just as inaccurate as your Phelps assumption.
“My conclusion? Huh? What needs to be concluded? History does not have a conclusion. Real history presents the facts and the damn author just shuts his trap – because if he opened it, it would just confuse the hell out of people anyway and play into his particular ideological proclivity.”
Ya, thats right. YOUR conclusion. Its all fucked up. Your history does not have a conclusion babble is just that… a whole bunch of psyhcobabble. History says Thomas Jefferson says that Adam Weishaupt was a harmless philanthropist, that doesnt make it so. Do you mention that in your book? Odds are Jefferson was Illuminati and there is a several HISTORICAL indicators that suggest this. John Quincy Adams was not making all this up to win an election.
So do you even mention Jefferson in your book? Just curious.
I said: He quit for 2 reasons.
1. He learned Weishaupt was bring in ex-Jesuit Priests to fill in the highest positions
2. Weishaupt began tweaking with Knigges ceremonies
“One is wrong. He didn’t learn no such thing. You pulled that out of your ass.
Two is wrong as well. Knigge was the one who “tweaked” at the behest of Weishaupt.
Knigge quit because he had had enough of the bickering and power maneuvering with Weishaupt. Yes Knigge was the cause of the Order’s sudden rise to prominence; yes Knigge was the mastermind behind the highest rituals of the Illuminati. What happened was, Weishaupt became extremely jealous of Knigge. If Knigge didn’t quit, he would have been kicked out anyway.”
Well a lot of people would say we are both wrong. That doesnt make them right. They would say you were wrong and that it was the other way around and Knigge was the jealous one.
The truth is it was time for Knigge to go. Weishaupt used him and he got all he needed from him.
He needed a Mason with deep connections and once he served his purpose it was time for him to severe his connection with Philo. Weishaupt did not merely just get jealous and for you to presume to know this was a fact, even if Weishaupt himself said it, you are still jumping to a conclusion and buying his excuse. Therefore you can not say I am wrong, and you cant even for sure say Im right with the other. Its all a guessing game. I am just saying you should not take Weishaupts Jesuit words too much to heart. Translate his work, its a good thing to do that for certain. But don’t base all of your conclusions from it, because that would be a mistake.
“Weishaupt tells us why himself. In plain English …err, German!”
See above.
“Illuminati was more esoteric-sounding – so that’s what they settled on. Hell, in 1779 he almost changed the name again, to: Society of the Bees or the Republic of the Bees.”
Watch and see how I am no amateur.
You base your conclusion of what Weishaupt said.
You want my opinion and theory, Weishaupt called it the Illuminati for the reason I said and he brought it up to Knigge, and it does have a cool mystery to it, so they agreed on it. But Weishaupt was flaunting his Jesuit flag covertly. And the only reason why he contemplated changing the name was because the Jesuits did not like his bravado and he was going to reveal the Jesuit plot.
You have heard the stories an ancient secret society was not thrilled about Weishaupt taking the name Illuminati. If I heard it then you must have if this is your area of expertise. I can show you how Loyola wa arrested on charges for sympathy to the Alumbrados in Salamanca but I am sure you can find it on your own. Borgia got him out and he too was Alumbrados. The Jesuit Order was all about creating a position of power that would rival the Popes himself. Spain was never to have another Pope after his Great Uncle Roderigo Borgia aka Pope Alexander VI. But Borgia needed someone that could approach the Pope for a commissioning of such an Order.
You know what?
Why am I even giving you material for you to write your next best seller?
You already ignored my assertion that you took my Minerva/ Molech observation in my Molech vs Minerva video. You already said you seen my videos.
So did you get them from me yes or no?
“Bravo. Want a lollipop?”
I do if you got that Mineva Molech stuff from me.
Damn right I want that lollipop.
And a Kudos bar too.
“Johann George Weishaupt (1717-1753) was not a Jesuit. He hated Jesuits. Weishaupt’s father was professor of imperial institutions and criminal law at Ingolstadt University – nothing more, nothing less. He was appointed that position by Johann Adam Baron von Ickstatt (1702-1776), who was the rector of the University. Ickstatt was a Jesuit hater. Even before 1773 he was trying to rid his University of them. Weishaupt and Ickstatt were the two most prominent anti-Jesuits in the entire University. The struggle against the Jesuits was initiated and sustained by them. That’s the way it went down, bub.”
Lets get 1 thing clear first.
I am not your bub. I served in the Marine Corps in Operation Enduring Freedom and I am not just some 16 yr old punk playing Conspiracy Theory on the computer.
Now that that is settled.
Weishaupts father was a professor Canon Law at Ingolstadt.
Fact, yes or no?
Professor of Canon Law was more or less the most prestigious teaching position at Ingolstadt.
Fact, yes or no?
Weishaupts Godfather also held this position.
Fact?
Ingolstadt was a very prestigious JESUIT University.
Fact?
So if all those are facts, why then are the Jesuits going to allow Weishuapts father and Godfather to teach at their University if they were not Loyola to the Jesuita?
Ickstatt may have despised the Jesuits, NOT!
Who do you think taught Weishaupt to appear anti-Jesuitical?
Ickstatt was a rationalist and taught Weishaupt how to covertly be a Jesuit and also be the biggest anti-Jesuit of them all. He does have the name of a Jesuit Saint after all. Johann Nepomuk. The Patron Saint of the Bohemian Grove. Oh but thats a common name. Sure seems that way because Adolf Hitlers true grandfather bared the name Johann Nepomuk Hiedler. Would it be a Monolithic conspiracy if I had research that showed Hitler was influenced by the Jesuits? Even though I know there is something behind them(Alumbrados)…. and something behind them even.
You almost saw the whole complete story to the Illuminati.
“Any more lessons you like to take, please send inquiries via email.”
I think its the other way around. I would murder you in a debate. No wonder you don’t want to chat. Skype is free ya know.
But I will play. I will email you. And I will continue to point out how flawed you and your books conclusions are.
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
“It’s a friggin book, you yayas. You have heard of books before, haven’t you?
You damn right I expect to profit off of it; and I’ll milk it for all she’s worth – and then some. Blood sweat and tears. Everything in my life has suffered as a result of the inordinate amount of time I have dedicated to this project. I haven’t received anything yet except a small advance; but have lost boat loads money because of the hours I put into it when I could have been doing something else.”
And you think I havent you smug asshole?
You think I havent lost almost everything including my sanity researching all this stuff trying to figure it all out?
Fuck you.
I hope your book bombs because that is what you deserve.
Once I get around to writing my own BOOKS, we will see whose is on the best seller list and whose wasn’t.
What even makes you assume Bannedrock is my friend?
I never seen that name before but I think I like the guy because he sees shit clearly.
Cheers to you Bannedrock.
And jeers to the smug asshole, who may, or may not have stolen my conclusions for his book.
July 4th, 2008 at 12:09 am
“I do if you got that Mineva Molech stuff from me.”
“Why am I even giving you material for you to write your next best seller?”
“You already ignored my assertion that you took my Minerva/ Molech observation in my Molech vs Minerva video. You already said you seen my videos.”
“Fuck you.”
Well, you’ve done crossed the line.
My turn.
I looked at your sorry shit yesterday.
Oooh, a fucking youtuber. Real heavy hitter.
You’re nothing. You think you count? You’re a pebble. The only reason I know you exist is at all is because you posted on this exact webpage of Alex Jones’ only yesterday. You mock the guy, but you’re really a parasite. Without him you’d have no one to put up a hissy fit for.
If anyone has stolen anything, they have stolen it from me. I was here first. The WHOIS records tell all. WayBack machine too.
Bub.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Dear Tim Meanson,
I never heard of you either.
You wrote a book. Big hairy deal.
John Conner wrote one too.
You have no idea what all I am up to.
You think Youtube is the only place I am?
I have only just begun bitch.
I already know where you got your education.
You just picked the wrong nigga to fuck with.
Stay tuned for OG vs TM you Canadian cunt.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:57 am
“Stay tuned for OG vs TM you Canadian cunt.”?
Have at it Fuckhead. Bigbad youtuber guy.
I get 5 million hits per month and 350,000 page views. You DO NOT want to fuck with me. You slander me, and mine will knock your fucking block off. Punk.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:31 am
“Have at it Fuckhead. Bigbad youtuber guy.
I get 5 million hits per month and 350,000 page views. You DO NOT want to fuck with me. You slander me, and mine will knock your fucking block off. Punk.”
I will do whatever the hell I want.
5 million hits per month?
Am I supposed to be impressed?
You are going down like a cheap pair of panties on prom night.
I dont need to slander you, I am going to use your own words.
Come and try to knock by block off, I know what you look like and you would be choked out in 30 seconds time.
Don’t threaten me buddy.
I will chew you up and spit you out.
You might be able to get a few people to post me some nasty little emails with your big ol website, but I have loyal friends. Friends with military training.
You just threatened me with violence because I was going to make an embarrassing video of you. Make good on your threat and seal your own fate.
I am speaking of Karma of course. That is not a counter threat by any means, I would never do a thing like that.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:43 am
“You just threatened me with violence”
I did no such thing. “You slander me, and mine will knock your fucking block off” was in reference to my site. You post your little bullshit videos, with your gay music, on your free fucking youtubes, and then I strike back with the full force of the consipiracyarchive machine. Clear?
“I have loyal friends. Friends with military training.”
Good for you. Are they all scared of the big bad black-robed ones under their beds?
July 4th, 2008 at 4:32 am
Like knocking my block off was not a veiled double meaning threat.
You still can’t point to where I am wrong about anything. The one thing you did I was not even wrong about. You quote in your book Weishaupt was a Jesuit.
“Free fucking youtubes, and then I strike back with the full force of the consipiracyarchive machine. Clear?”
I have seen your presales ranking on Amazon, I don’t expect you to get rich anytime soon.
So I hope you have a plan B.
I give out my info for free and you knock that… because why?
You just keep on milking your BS for every penny you can and don’t worry about how I give mine away and ask for nothing in return.
The Conspiracy Archive Machine?
Like… I am so scared… like really.
September 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
To whom it may concern…
I am currently working on another short-film.It will be out in a few days…
(I have been having trouble with my “Windows Movie Maker” program.It constantly shuts down,and even when I “Save” my work,often I still lose it all because it freezes up,and I have to go back and do the same work all over again.So it’s taking me MUCH longer to make films.I don’t know what the problem is,ALL my other programs work just fine)…
I will be revealing some new information that I haven’t seen anywhere else.It delves much deeper into the “Esoteric” than I have dealt with before,and I know that I’ll probably lose many subscribers over it (Because it’s THAT hard to believe – Even for “Truthers”) BUT… I KNOW that I will also gain MANY MORE subscribers because of it as well…
With YouTube censoring my posts,screwing around with my “Views” (Alex’s latest contest PROVES that they are doing this to MANY others as well) and now the one program that I use to reach ten’s of thousands (Literally) of people suddenly “Malfunctioning”.It’s very hard for me to believe that there isn’t some “Higher Force” (NWO) involved here…
I just wanted you (Everyone) to know that I am still working VERY hard every single day.I am TOTALLY DEDICATED! This is literally all that I do.I refuse to let these “Hinderances” get me down,much less to stop me.I will just work harder,save up to get another program,and “Keep on keeping on”…etc
Anyway,I just wanted to throw all of this out there for those who may be wondering why it’s taking me so long to put out more videos… “Patience Danielson”! LOL
“Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen”?
OwlMan
http://www.youtube.com/TheOwlMan
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I have finished my latest video,and I have written a small article about what I went through to make it…It can be found here:
http://www.alien-ufos.com/Alex.....22622.html
It is VERY interesting to say the least… (Please watch the entire vid,and read the article that I wrote to go along with it at awaken.weebly.com before you judge it based merely upon it’s title.It only covers so-called “UFO’s” and “Aliens” in the sense of “False Flag Terrorism”…ie:”Project Blue Beam”…and NOT so-called “Real” UFO’s or Aliens)…
I am currently working on my next project.I am in the process of downloading films (To use clips from),pictures and researching websites,articles… (I lost EVERYTHING on my HD due to “Hacker Attacks” and had to start all over again)…
This will be some of my best work yet…Though it will only be about 10 min long (Because of limitations on my type of YouTube account.I will be packing ALOT of important information into those 10 minutes…As the saying goes…
“Dynamite comes in small packages”! lol
To all of my subscribers (or anyone else reading this for that matter)…
After my next video…I will be coming out with another series of vids (With many parts – Even more parts than “The Mystery of Molech”).It is a “Secret Project” that I have had in the back of my mind,but haven’t gotten around to yet…
Needless to say though…This documentary (That WILL be made) will absolutely BLOW YOU AWAY! lol I am not kidding around here…This documentary is going to SERIOUSLY FREAK PEOPLE OUT! (In a good way…ie:Waking them up) I can’t believe that noone has made anything like it yet (I have searched youtube and there is nothing there like this idea – Atleast not in the way that I am going to present this INCREDIBLE information) and as soon as I’am finished with my next short video (About the NWO).I will get to work on my “Secret Project”…
Just wait til you see it! lol
“Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen”?
OwlMan
January 24th, 2009 at 2:02 am
WAKE UP! The New World Order Matrix Has You!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nO9yf6ZEvA
“Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen”?
OwlMan