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The OAS Treaty: Blueprint for Dismantling the Second Amendment
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August 3, 2009
The Obama administration’s offensive against the Second Amendment has begun.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
As was predicted, the strategy uses international law to create a foundation for repressive and extreme gun control. The mechanism is an international treaty, the “Inter-American Convention against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and Other Related Materials.”
If the plan succeeds, police sales of confiscated firearms would be prohibited, and anyone who reloads ammunition at home would need a federal license. In addition, the treaty would create an international law requirement that almost every American firearm owner be licensed as if he were a manufacturer.
Founded in 1948, the Organization of American States (OAS) includes all of the independent nations of the Western Hemisphere. (Cuba’s participation has been suspended since 1962.) In 1997, President Clinton signed a gun control treaty, which had been negotiated by OAS. Subsequently, neither he nor President George W. Bush sent the treaty to the United States Senate for ratification.
The treaty is commonly known as “CIFTA,” for its Spanish acronym, Convención Interamericana Contra La Fabricación Y El Tráfico Ilícitos De Armas De Fuego, Municiones, Explosivos Y Otros Materiales Relacionados. The document is called a “convention” rather than a “treaty” because “convention” is a term of art for a multilateral treaty created by a multinational organization.
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August 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
From my cold dead hands bastards! Come and get some!
Kayhla Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I’m not counting on the NRA to save us…
roaddog Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
kayhla—I cancelled my membership with the nra. I told them why and they didn’t like it.
JUST TRY IT Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
JUST TRY TO TAKE PEOPLES GUNS YOU f---ING IDIOTS
are you really so out of touch with reality to think you could ever
suppress the free men and women and children of this country?
it is quite impossible and you sell out f---s will die horrible deaths trying . if you even dare .
we the people are still here … you may have brainwashed some and poisoned our food and water … but there is a magic here and in the spirit of americans .
we are brutal bastard and dominate the globe …. true
so what makes you think a bunch of frat boys and banker types can ever possibly
succeed in taking our lives .. we outnumber you and your bullets ..
f---in try it
JB Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Treaties, Constitution and whatever…
Fact is, there are well over 300 million guns in the US…good luck taking them.
Politicians, gov’t agencies, police, judges, the super rich….all will be targets if this is ever tried.
Gun owners just won’t stand for it and they have the firepower to make it into a very bloody Revolution.
imho I think all this is overblown…
BRASS BALLZ Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
We must be good global citizens and turn in your weapons and summit to our police that only have our best interest at heart, help them by turning in evil gun owners, you not a rat for doing that just a good American.
DR. PHILLIS DILLER Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
they f---ing are you moron but you are to stupid, stoned and drunk to f---ing see it. why don’t you take your f---ing hillbilly banjo playing ass some where else, just try it.
johnson P Butterworth Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Remember, according to our government, the constitution is just a “G.D. piece of paper”.
We need to get it across to the New World Order SCUM that our constitution STILL STANDS and WILL BE DEFENDED BY US, to the death if necessary!
The SCUM also needs to understand that the bills and treaties that they are busy signing are really the “G.D. pieces of paper” when everything is said and done!
RESIST OBAMAUTHORITY! IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!
politic Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Yo first AND FOREMOST shout to MY MAN’S JUST TRY IT AND JOHNSON P BUTTERWORTH hit me up on myspace.com/brooknomeny.. you good money everything you speaking is the truth i want you to check out these video’s google it . ZEITGEIST WATCH BOTH FILMS
ESOTERIC AGENDA , KYMATICA , THE VENUS PROJECT
Now BRASS BALLZ you have the mind of my four year old son if you actually think that your police force has the best interest at heart when they are the ones that give you the status which is called criminal so where is the heart at . Now turning in my gun and i disagree that automatically gives them the right to say im a bad gun owner.
DR PHILLIS DILLER YOU DONT KNOW s--- ABOUT WHATS GOING ON IN THE WORLD
brandon Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 6:16 am
This will all happen very slowly and incrementally. They won’t just start knocking on doors and grabbing your guns. They will just start demanding information when you purchase ammo, or guns, and they will outlaw gun shows. It’s the ammo shortage that is hurting us now. I can’t find 9mm or 7.62 anywhere out here in the pacific northwest!
River Rat Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 9:20 am
just try it i stand and applaud you.
Lois Lechemenant Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Wow, I would hope a bunch of screaming rednecks wouldn’t be armed.
These “just try it” posts are pretty funny. Might as well the same thing about taxes: “Just try to tax me!”
Tyler Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
why did you cancel?
Griz Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
I don’t know why he canceled, but I know why I never joined. The NRA is very good at collecting membership dues and then not wanting to fight for the Second Amendment for all gun owners. They could have prevented the assault weapons ban, could say something about the poor boys that hunt deer with an SKS or an AK. Either one is a great little brush gun to use for deer under a hundred yards. They are getting around to defending handguns for self-defense use in the last couple of years. Join a real organization, either the GOA or JPFO. They take the Second Amendment rights seriously and more for what it was intended for.
Nate Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Im sure they were just devastated to lose you…
nates a dick Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 10:56 am
im sure they have paid off the top officials in the nra…as they do everything else
Hawk Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Why did you leave the NRA ?
oldnamvet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Speaking of the NRA,do you remember the clown down here in fla want to mess with the guy int eh john next go him,he was big shot leader in the NRA sorry I cant remember his name,and Dickhead Chenney was a lead speaker at the NRA convention a few years back,f--- the NRA there illuminati controled now.
JO JO BINKS Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 7:25 am
HA! THE NRA ARE A GROUP IN THE HIP POCKET “HELLO”? THEY WILL TURN OVER ANY AND “EVERY” BIT OF INFORMATION THEY HAVE ON YOU AT A DROP OF A HAT! NRA CAN KISS THE FREEDOM LOVING ASS! I BELIEVE GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA SERVE THE PEOPLE A THOUSAND FOLD BETTER. BUT I DO “NOT” WANT TO START A STUPID SIDE-TRACKED ARGUMENT! THE PEOPLE JUST STILL DON’T SEEM TO GET IT YET!!! IN NUMBERS THERE LIES POWER- TRUE POWER, THE GLOBAL ELITE UNDERSTAND THIS, “THEY” ALL THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AR KEEPING DIVISION, THUS “DIVIDE AND CONQUER”.. THERE “IS” STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, LET US UNITE…”PLEASE”! YES? TO COMPLAIN ABOUT “STUPID” THINGS… WELL YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT, I BELIEVE.
mike trevis Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I was sent this in adobe format and forwarded to infowars. Good quick work getting it up!
theTruth Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Maybe I read too fast or I’m just not observant enough to find it but exactly how is this in the works to be implemented? I read alot of information about OAS and its inception and also about Koh, but where in the article does it state credibly that this is even in the works for Americans?
I appreciate the info and will be on the lookout for more about this but I wouldn’t say this is definitive in the least, I can’t imagine the bafoons in Washington really wanting to open this can of worms right now, it doesn’t further them in anyway with a country that already doesn’t trust or admire their leaders, this would put them three steps back with a large cross-section of Americans who already have been ratcheting up against them.
Falling short of a radical, Nazi-like conversion of our government and policies (which I never rule out completely) I really just see this as paranoia. Every incident, short of the Geneva Conventions, where the intl community tries to make Americans conform to their laws and ideology is met with stern opposition especially when it comes to our guns.
I’m not handing any info or weapons over to any BAFTE, Police, U.N., NATO, or anyone else. Not today, not tommorow, not ever. People who say things like “from my cold dead hands” are planning their own demise, I on the other hand have been shooting and modifying guns as well as reloading ammo my whole life and I’m a very good shot…
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
In the very least it makes every gun owner a criminal(except those special few allowed) and can be used as a justification to not only take your guns away, but label you a terrorist for refusing to do so. It is a stretch I admit, but did anyone think that the Patriot Act was going to be used to label our own military veterans as homegrown terrorists? The gov’t used our trust in them to run an end around on our liberties and this is just another example of that.
It could be implemented in any numbers of ways such as the gun redemption program where you trade in your gun for say FOOD. If the economy collapses their WILL be desperate people looking for anyway they can to feed themselves and their family, so worrying about you and your gun will not be high on their list of priorities. This type of division between citizens is not only necessary for the gov’t to win, but is actually happening right now as we speak. I don’t ask why or how anymore. I just know what they are capable of and BELIEVE that they will find a way to continue with the erosion of the American way of life.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
NOT GONNA HAPPEN, OTHERWISE THEY’DE COME TO GET THEM TOMMORROW.
I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD TRY TO TAKE THEM, THAT OR GIVE ME THAT SHOT.
BOTH WILL SPARK THE BACK LASH AND LEAD TO FULL BLOWN BLOODY REVOLUTION.
I DARE YA.
primitive patriarch Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Yep. The revolution will have no need of “starting” until they come for our guns. Then they’ll find out what “The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear ARMS shall NOT be infringed” means LOCK, STOCK and BARREL !!
americangal4ever Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Yeah and the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
Also to have to bear our arms (for injections) shall not be infinged.
GONZOLONG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
molon labe…come and get them…
The Truth Shall Set You Free Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
In the last three months of 2008, that’s right, three months, Americans bought enough guns to outfit the Chinese and Indian armies, combined. Actually, that’s just reflective of the NICS checks, which don’t cover sales by private parties, and buys by CCW permit holders. There were also 1.5 BILLION rounds of ammo sold.
Americans also bought 1,529,635,000 rounds of ammunition in just the month of December 2008. Yes that is right, that is Billion with a “B”.
This is an evaluation of overall firearms and ammunition purchases based on low end numbers per Federal NIC instacheck data base Statistics. The numbers presented are only PART of the overall numbers of arms and ammunition that have been sold. The actual numbers are much higher.
Firearm and ammunition manufacturers paid more than $98 million in excise taxes in the fourth quarter of 2008, up 31.2 percent over the same period in 2007, according to figures released earlier today by the U.S. Department of the Treasury.
Excise tax collections are a key economic indicator for the industry. The taxes are calculated as a percentage of wholesale receipts, paid quarterly by firearm and ammunition manufacturers, and earmarked for state wildlife conservation and habitat restoration programs.
A total of $345.2 million was collected in excise taxes in 2008, up 13.9 percent from the $303.2 million collected the previous year. These statistics are based solely on U.S. civilian sales and do not include sales to military, police, etc.
P O F Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Look at what they did in the aftermath of Katrina. Some will give up there guns willingly. Others will be arrested. The ones that fight will be labelled terrorists, lunatics, and an extreme fringe to get the support of the rest of the country.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The US constitution supercedes international treaties. Of course, the constitution hasn’t stopped these freaked out psychopathic eugenicists in the White House yet.
NOT SO FAST Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
NO THEY DO NOT TREATIES SUPERCEDES
General Mayhem Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
A treaty in violation of the U.S. Constitution would not be binding.
Gerri Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
You spread disinformation, please review the link below
http://www.sweetliberty.org/is.....eaties.htm
Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.
This will explain that the Supreme Court has clearly stated that any treaty that goes against our Constitution, including the Bill of Rights…is Unconstitutional and unenforceable.
Please update your understandings…
The Dead Bishop Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
But what you’re forgetting is: that Supreme Court ruling is B.S. ( Before Sotomayer )
Gerri Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Yes they could attempt to “re-argue” this fact, even if they decided something different, they cannot enforce it Constitutionally.
Their “powers” are limited to and created by the Constitution, they therefore cannot decide something that goes beyond their authority….simple…
Doesn’t mean they won’t try to BS all of us…
That’s why any Treaty that changes our Constitution cannot be enforced here. Only “We The People” can change that agreement, not a representative of any branch has that authority.
Calypso Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
UNJUST LAWS PEOPLE. You don’t follow unjust laws, at least i don’t. They can say that there is no 2nd amendment all they want, but you and me both know that it CAN’T BE INFRINGED no matter what. If they come and try to take them from us then we all know what to do.
Gerri Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Might I add a clarification, as I understand the hierarchy or supremacy of Sovereignty, it goes like this…
1. God- God created us.
2. Man- “We The People” created the Constitution.
3. Constitution-our agreement to form a gov’t.
4. Bill Of Rights- 1st 10 amendments to US Constitution clarifying specific “breaches” that our gov’t cannot transgress. Either by Congressional Order, Presidential “Signing Statements” or ANY TREATY they all must comply with #3- The US Constitution…PERIOD!
Scotty Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Our Rights are inalienable, given by God, whether or not we write them down on a piece of paper.
It’s like someone saying to you that you’re breaking the law if you breathe.
Danny Cunnington Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Look, the ruling elite has a legal trick up it’s sleeve. It’s called the ICC or International Criminal Court based in the Hague, Netherlands. The US has never signed up to this. Clinton almost got it through in the 1990s and now puppet Obama will try again.
Just as the Nuremberg principles become the supreme law of the land joining the ICC would mean that certain ICC provisions could make certain amendment rights unenforceable. It would mean on the basis of international law and membership of the ICC the US constitution is subordinate to the ICC treaties wherever a challenge could arise.
According to Bilderberger leaks Obama has already told them that he will have the guns by September. I can’t see that happening but watch out for a late Friday evening bill (similar to the way they got the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 in which is at the root of all of our problems today).
They are running out of time. Watch for any mention of the ICC. If they mention it, it will be with obscure justifications that have nothing to do with gun control. They plan to let people find out later the ramifications.
Stay alert. A regime that has already lost much of it’s credibility is going to struggle to label over half the population as “fringe nutters or extremists. Stick together locally and scream loud and clear when the pimps and whores start talking about the US joining the ICC. This is the Trojan horse so don’t let it in.
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Ever heard of the Constitution Free Zone? 2/3 of all Americans live in it.
Patriot_in_Arms Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
In the U.S. there is nothing, but the word of God himself, that supersedes the Constitution, it’s the LAW OF THE LAND! Thankfully, our Founders shaped our Constitution around Biblical Laws, & principles, so we are not in violation of the word of God! We fought the Revolutionary War, to keep other Countries out of our business, & I, for one, will fight to the death, if they think they’re going to come in here now & try to dictate to me or my Children!!!!
Blessed Father, if there is no other way, but War, please give each & everyone of us the courage, means, strength, & the will, to Conquer these wicked & corrupt Leaders! Let the people of this Nation, turn their faces to you, once again, repent of our former ways, & rely, through faith, on your son Jesus Christ! Please do not let the corse of the wicked be completed, but lead us, your anointed, on the paths of righteousness, for your names sake. Please bless us all with a heart of repentance, & let us see the evil put before us, in our everyday lives, or else we’ll become snared & trapped in those ways. Bless even those who reject the name & sacrifice of your son, so that they may one day to, see your loving kindness. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen!!!!
Brother in Arms Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Amen!
stardog Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
No. The founding father is their incredible wisdom shaped the constitutuion to refelct intelligence and true freedom in the image of a all powerful diety, that cannot be owned by any dogma. The founding fathers warned against Christianity and its “mind and soul numbig effects”. I love that you love America and the constitution and I will defend you right to worship as you choose, but Jesus is NOT going to do a god damn thing, WE THE PEOPLE will defend this nation.
oldnamvet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Your a unread idiot and if you ever read the bible,Jesus is going to wipe out all these bastards,but since your a antichrist jew troll you wont know that will dips---.Its not so much the crimminal politiacians I want in my sights its the likes of your type traioter.CAnt tyup satan trying to fight mee,a just s---ten ya fool.
Revolution Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Star dog No! The beginning of Wisdom is IN! the Fear of the Lord,Mans wisdom Falls short to the Glory of The Lord. If Man would give Thanks and Praise in the first place in all of Our Accomplishments to God Our Creator of All (Wisdom) Inventions,Science,Industrial Technology ETC. Our Infrastructure Ask your Self why Most people come to live here than any other Nation on Earth, Acknowledge GOD The Spirit of our very Existence Yes wisdom of our For Fathers was Ingenious They were Divinely Inspired as ” Moses As The Prophets and The Disciples Wrote The Greatest Story Ever told Called the Truth of Life. You cannot comprehend the bible unless you humbly Bow your head in Prayer and Repentance as A christian it is as Tough as Trying to say I’m Sorry when I’m wrong to the one I wronged. REMEBER SIN IS THE WALL THAT SEPERATES ALL but GOD SHINES ON ALL a Promise that he is Available to all MAnKind The Only way is The Truth of Jesus Christ If We Accept him Then God will accept Us.If we Reject Christ God Rejects Us God is a Respecter of no One.
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I highly doubt the military or U.N. troops will be familiar with The Law of The Land and will take orders the way that they have been trained. Shoot first ask questions later.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
THE FOUNDERS SAY NOT TO ENTER INTO TREATIES.
Outrage Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
The proper public response would be to IMMEDIATELY throw the government officials that wrote, signed and ratified the treaty OUT OF OFFICE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Impeachment, recall, massive public & private pressure, armed insurrection, etc. Then instruct the NEW GOVERNMENT to RESCEND THE TREATY IMMEDIATELY OR FACE THE SAME FATE!
Yes, that is a major problem to accomplish. SO, the best thing is to put people into public office that WON’T do this nonsense. And to remind those in power that they only serve by the public’s conesnt. If they screw up bad enough there aren’t enough troops in the entire military to save their … “careers”.
Brad Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Right…..The U.S. Constitution supercedes international treaties, agreements and the like. That is all we need to know as patriotic Americans. Anyone want to argue with that???
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
THERE IS NO LAW, HIGHER THAN THE CONSTITUTION.
IF GOD HIMSELF APEARED TOMMORROW AND DEMANDED SOMETHING THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THE CONSTITUTION WOULD OVER RIDE IT.
THEY MAY SAY THEIR LAWS DO, THEY MAY EVEN WRITE IT DOWN THAT THEIR LAWS DO
BUT NOTHING SUPERCEEDS THE CONSTITUTION.
NOTHING.
EXCEPT MAYBE THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof;…shall be the supreme Law of the Land
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Yo’ whistler, our Constitution/Laws come from the Living God.
Little lesson for ya’ Ace: the Living God, is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Our TRI-UNE government was spawned from the TRIUNE-GOD.
[AGAIN]- it’s not 1+1+1=3
[RATHER]- it’s 1×1x1=1
“Welcome to the “NEW WORLD. May the Living God save you should He deem it right to do so.”
stardog Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
The “Living God” maybe… but there is not one f---ing shread of evidence to say that “Living God” has or wants anything to do with Christianity. A little lesson for YOU spiritblade, the founding father WARNED against Christianity and its MIND and SOUL NUMBING effects. Period.
I don;t give a f--- what “your” Jesus says, if its not constitutional he can stick up his ass and go suck a cross.
4w578i Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Freemasons believe that the Eastern Star is Lucifer.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
THE EASTERN STAR
IS THE SUN.
THE SUN GOD IS NAMED BAAL, RAH, OSIRUS, LUCIFER OR SATAN.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Yo, Mad Dog and stardog! Rein in a little, there: I suspect something of a shortage of facts, so let me lay a few on ya!
First, the Founders ALL recognized the “hand of Providence” (GOD) in the creation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Stardog, your statement (”…the founding father WARNED against Christianity and its MIND and SOUL NUMBING effects…”) flies in the face of virtually EVERY statement I have EVER found from virtually EVERY Founding Father involved in either of those great State Documents. From whence did YOUR statement come? Which Founding Father(s), in what publication, and when?
It just so happens to be a tenant of MY FAITH that the Constitution was established by God, Himself: “And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.” In another place, an ancient American Prophet (approximately 421 AD) stated: “Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, if they will but serve the God of the land, who is Jesus Christ…” I very STRONGLY doubt that ANY of Jesus’ statements would EVER contradict the U.S. Constitution! The whole point of the “war in heaven” described in Revelation 12:3-4, and 7-9 was SPECIFICALLY whether or not the human species would be permitted free agency: Christ’s position was that Mankind MUST be permitted to exercise their free agency to freely choose whether to do good or to do evil, and to bear the consequences of that choice; Satan led the “Rebellion” in heaven, and would NOT permit Mankind to have free agency, but rather, Satan’s plan was to FORCE men to do that which was right and good. The reason WHY the Constitution is the “Supreme Law of the Land” is because it is based upon CELESTIAL Principles. Even God, Himself, cannot violate the Principle of Free Agency (nor would He ever wish to do so!), else He would CEASE TO BE GOD!
If you want to compete in the “free marketplace of ideas” you must also defend your position, PARTICULARLY if that position flies in the face of large and published volumes of information in DIRECT opposition to that position.
4w578i Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
“It just so happens to be a tenant of MY FAITH that the Constitution was established by God…”
But, you don’t come right out and identify a faith, which you placed in all-caps. Which particular denomination uses the word celestial and speaks of ancient, American prophets?
There are entire lists of anti-Christian quotes of the Founding Father’s, compiled online. So, their faith is not in question.
The balance of powers is a form of dialectic, sometimes referred to as consensus building, with a facilitator moderating a framed debate. I assume that moral authority, ordained by God, is unconditional.
Further, it’s abominable for a Deist to sit under their demonic pantheon, in presumed spiritual fellowship with plain, vanilla Christians.
(I lean toward Dispensationalist, Messianic Judaism and Christian Patriarchy.)
MAD DOG Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
DUDE, BLOW YOUR GOD UP YOUR ASS.
YOUR MAKE BELIEVE SPIRIT IN THE SKY HAS NO EFFECT ON ME.
I AM A RATIONAL MAN.
I STOPPED BELIEVING IN GHOSTS, GOBLINS, GHOULS OR GODS A LONG TIME AGO.
TELL YOUR GOD TO COME TO MY PLACE SO WE CAN TALK, THEN I BELIEVE THERE’S A GOD.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I don’t remember voting for this either.
Patriot-X Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
just goes to show you that voting absolutely means nothing. if the feds come for this PATRIOTS guns you can charish the words of this dying man that I will never compromise myself. I’ve often thought of the best way to die and to me going out in a hale of bullets fighting for something that is worth my death. FINALLY I CAN FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!! It will be HONOR to die this way and SALUTE ALL OF YOU for goin down this way.
oldnamvet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Stardog your a jew troll go f--- yourself…
4w578i Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Jews don’t worship the Dog Star.
You’re an antisemitic troll.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
LET ME SAY THIS IN PLAIN ENGLISH”"”"THERE IS NO WAY WHILE I AM LIVING AND BREATHING SOME POLITICIAN OR USURPER WILL EVER TAKE MY WEAPONS….
TO ALL TOU LITTLE COLLEGE KIDS INTERNING FOR THE SCUMBAGS IN D.C. TELL THEM THIS…WE ARE ARMED TO PROTECT OUR LIVES AND LIBERTY FROM THE LIKES OF YOU…..
LOCK N LOAD PEOPLE
RYE BREW Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Amen brother….I just sited in a .308 bullseye at 150 yrds….LOCK AND LOAD
Brad Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
AMEN……
Arnold Ziffel Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Keep your ear protectors and a pair of welding goggles right next to your guns.
You know, for those Flash-Bang grenades. (Gas mask wouldn’t hurt either.)
Peace, (until they make a move).
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I GREW IN RURAL OHIO
WE HAD FIELD PARTIES AND THIS ONE KID WOULD ALWAYS THROW M-80′S AND M-100′S INTO THE FIRE, TALK ABOUT COOL.
ONE SECOND IT’S DARK EXCEPT FOR THE FIRE, THEN BANG,FLASH
IT’S PITCH DARK EXCEPT FOR A RING OF RED WHERE THE FIRE USED TO BE.
THEM GRENADES WONT FAZE ME.
I’M IMMUNE TO THEM.
Arnold Ziffel Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I heard they can blow out your eardrums or give you a pretty good concussion.
And the flash is brighter than the sun by many times. I forget how many times.
I wouldn’t be comparing them to fireworks.
They only need 5-10 seconds to make their breech, not a lot of time even if you’re immune.
But that’s the local SWAT teams. Who knows what little toys the Military plans on using.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I GOT FLASH BANGS ALSO
THEY’RE CALLED BIRD BOMBS.
AND 5 DOGS PATROLING THE PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES.
I GUARANTEE I GET MY FLASH BANGS OFF BEFORE THEY DO.
oldnamvet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm
They got to get close to ya to toss a gernade,thats why the rifle is so good,now if they can throw from 200 yards which they cant,but a 7.62 can pop em a new asshole in the head from 200 yards.
3ks|t Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Stay in the center of the room, close your eyes, and open your mouth.
Guerilla Martyr Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I wish to make a simple comment to “oldnamvet” tossing grenades is slowly becoming a thing of the past check out the AA12 millitary shotgun and the many applications for its grenade rounds. Smart Weapons, Smart ammunition, and automation is the path they will take against us.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Come and get my guns!
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
There is no Legitimate monopoly of force that is conferred to governments. Governments are established to secure rights granted to us by GOD.
All life, law and rights flow from the almighty, not from governments
Gerri Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
To be clear, FROM GOD…TO US…”WE THE PEOPLE”…
WE granted the Gov’t limited powers as outlined in the Constitution…
Power comes from the People not the Government…YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
They can push international and maritime laws and treaties down our throat all day long. I only answer to the U.S. Constitution, and our armor is the Bill of Rights. We can hide behind this to the bitter end. But the fact is, they’re coming, and they don’t care about “goddamned piece of paper”. That’s why we’re here, to remind them to play nice.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
We are the people of the USA. We dot want to be governed by global entities. We can govern ourselves!
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Yes sir! No problem!
You can have all of my guns!
I guess you want all my bullets also?
Wait a second, you can have those first!
Say Hello to My Little Friend!
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Guns are not the only weapon to worry about
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
“WE PLEAD THE BLOOD OF YAHSHUA- WE CALL UPON THE LORD OF HOSTS.”
Everything before-us, is as Eden. EVERYTHING behind us, is as ASH.
Again, COME TO MY-HOUSE FIRST.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
a recent gold purchase from midas appears to have lost about 30% in just 6 months even though the spot price of gold remained about flat. you may want to be very careful buying gold…
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
NO KIDDING.
YOU BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH
YOU DO NOT RUSH OUT AND BUY GOLD WHEN IT GOES UP..
THATS WHEN THE HOLDERS OF THE GOLD SELL IT.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
On 19 April, 1775, an attempt by the British government to forcibly disarm it’s colonial subjects in the American colonies triggered a successful revolution, which overthrew the Monarchy’s poitical hold over aforementioned colonies.
Dear government- that’s a hint.
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MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
YEP, THE BRITS ONLY TRIED THAT ONCE…
GONZOLONG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Actually they tried again in 1812….i believe…
Darth Helmet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Damnit, failed again!!! (dripping with sarcasm…)
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
This is shapeing up to be fun..Revolution, revolution here we come. This goes great with the CNN headlines: “Obama doesnt rule out tax cuts for the middle-class” They might as well just come out and say it, “Whoever wants to fight the FED’s bring it on, because we know you want a revolution. Most of the American people know its time for Revolution, the question is who is going to fire the first shot?
Voice of the Republic Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Revolution is NEVER “fun”: the RESULTS might be somewhat satisfying, but too many good people die to ever make revolution a “fun” sport!:-(
BTW, OldNamVet: have you forgotten that the M-79 Grenade Launcher (Old “Thumper”) has a maximum effective range of over 250 meters?;-D
As for the flu, TRUE STORY: you know, I was brought up in the South, and in my youth I heard a lot of people say we’d have a black President when pigs learned to fly. Well, now, only a few months after Obama was “inaugurated” and Swine Flu!;-D
But on a more serious note: to guard against the flu you need at least 2 items for your “emergency medical kit”. Colloidal Silver is a proven anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and has been from ages past. Also, and this prevents the virus from a more fundamental, biochemical angle, converting your biochemistry from an “acidic” one to an “alkaline” biochemistry should be a death sentence to the flu virus, because it is a biochemical FACT that NO virus, NOR bacteria, NOR CANCER, can survive in an alkaline environment!
A note to you who say, “…when you can pry it from my cold, dead hands…”: while I appreciate the beautiful sentiment (as my Irish ancestors would say) please do NOT forget the immortal words of the late General George Patton:
“No bastard EVER won a war by ‘dying for his country’! He won it by making the OTHER poor, dumb bastard die for HIS!”
Truer words were never spoken…;-D
firebirdak Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Voice of the Republic: Excellent choice of words and dead on (no pun intended) the Collodial Silver aspect of your post. Lil Irish wisdom goes a long way.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
MOLAN LABE
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
wont be any shots fired…. you cant shoot bird flu
Gerri Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Ooooo, you’re so right…they have to “thin out the herd” first…makes it easier to control when there’s less “cattle”…
zeebob Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Bird flu, swine flu, eat lots of raw garlic when an epidemic starts. Many people were unaffected by the 1918 flu that killed millions by eating raw garlic every day.
oldnamvet Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Bird flu is dumped on the population,how will the cops or troops dodge that bullet??They breath too.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
COME AND TAKE IT !!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
would someone please send me the link so I can read this WONDERFUL “healthcare” “package”?
maybe I’m typing in the wrong search criteria…
If someone would post it I would appreicate it so much.
buddah Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/show
click on the tab on the right of the screen that says official bill text
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
http://patriotsofthestate.blogspot.com/
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The NRA has fought the UN small arms, and they published an excellent book and how the UN plans to disarm us. People need to join pro gun lobby groups, NOT cancel their involvement. I’m fed up with all the disinfo on the NRA and other gun groups.
BS, brother of the mysterious guy named MZ. hahahaha Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Well gee here’s the problem. A lot of the people who come here are not too bright. They follow their own ‘leaders’ and live by every word that their ‘leaders’ speak. If leader says something is a grand conspiracy then it is. Period. And if you say that it may not be then you are visciously attacked or even called a troll.
They like to say troll a lot.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Out of these troubled times, we see a new world coming into view; a world in which the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, guides the conduct of nations.
When we are successful, and we will be!……..we have a real chance at this new world order….
So please people, just cooperate; submit; we only want a brotherhood of man. You know, John Lenin sang about it!
Our demands are simple: give up your guns. That will reduce gun violence!
Submit to our mandatory vaccinations.
Turn in your food stores and gold to the nearest authorities.
After that, it’s all real easy: Just report to the nearest Fema Emergency Center for your emergency Food Packet, and we’ll take care of the rest!~
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Interesting Document on Contaminated soil 92 page Doc pdf
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/41.....Department
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
“We the People are still here…”
That has a kind of ring to it…That could be a campaign slogan for a new Political Party. The “People’s Representative” party… Nahhhh………….
firebirdak Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Wow I thought I was the only one whom thought of that idea. I called it the American Patriot Party and never went any further.
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
….anything that can be built at home cannot be banned or outlawed!
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS f---IN MAD MAN BEFORE IT’S TO LATE WE NEED TO GET THIS s--- ON MAIN STREAM NEWS WE NEED TO DO IT SOON WHO’S GOT THE FINGER ON OUR NUKES ???
MAD DOG Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
DOES HE REALLY
IF OBAMA SAID NUKE RUSSIA
WOULD THEM MEN REALLY DO IT ?
buddah Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
i believe that if it came down to nuclear war we will be the ones gettin bombed.
the USA is losing prettty much all of our allies since obama came into power and if russia china korea saudiaarabia, iran all start a war with us then the USA and Isreal and the UK will be nuked and the rest of the world will continue to live in peace.
i may be wrong but thats my opinion
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
COME AND GET IT you CRIMINAL BASTARDS
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
An international treaty? I ran out of toilet paper can you please pass the International gun treaty?
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I hope that local authorities realize that it will be neighbor against neighbor and refuse to follow any orders to confiscate weapons. No one wants to see a neighbor disposed of because of a rogue government. However I do not intend to comply with any unconstitutional directive to surrender firearms and will stand firm.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
We should all remember the families and friends that we have known that have been affected by theses scumbags starting wars. My great grandfather died in the civil war, my father served in WWI, my brother fought in the Battle of the Bulge, and I was fortunate and served between conflicts.
I knew families during the WWII era that were devastated by deaths, I knew veterans that returned from WWII that were permanently disabled, I knew WWII veterans that committed suicide, and the misery goes on. I had friends killed in Korea and Vietnam. I refuse to allow all of this suffering to be in vain if we are pushed into a conflict to sustain the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
It will not be in ‘vain to fight for freedom. Just remember the Patriots of 1776. They KNEW what they were fighting for.
If you plan to do something then look at this site. http://www.colddeadhands.addr.com
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
hahaahahahahahahhaahhaahahahahahahahhahahahah!
There once was a guy named MZ. hahahahahahahahah.
f---in classic man.
By the way guys you can chill out about the gun issue. They do not need to come for the guns. They don’t need to. No one is going to do jack s--- just like no one ever has. Not one of you tough guy patriots stood for freedom in Katrina. What a joke.
MAD DOG Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
WE WERNT IN LA .
OBAMAS WELFARE JIGABOO CLASS OF PEOPLE WERE.
JUDGEING US BY THEIR ACTIONS IS THE LAST MISTAKE YOU WOULD MAKE IF WE FOUGHT.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Yeah, well I plan to Stand Up and say no(with my .308) to the govt. if they try to infringe on my right to bear arms. So you can just sit and watch.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Haarp Hits Alberta !
On August 2, 2009 I decided to produce a small video to ignite interest in people regarding the eratic weather behavior that I personally believe is a HAARP project. This Alaskan project is used to sway the public away from the truth of nature itself.What is strange is that Alberta is not known for tornadoes , in the last 3 weeks we have had constant weather warnings and it appears that they are forming in the same location where Haarp Ionizes there clouds in alaska !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07car_
Guerilla Martyr Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
That is so funny. I have been keeping up with H.A.A.R.P. for a few years and thought along the same lines. It’s good to see more people know about this device for “better global communication” lol, like we would use such a device for Communication purposes only when it has so many more applications. Makes you wonder if has applications with the MK-Ultra project hmmmmmmm
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I served 24 years, for what? So some foreigner in the white house can piss away OUR freedoms? I say NONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!! Its time to unite PEOPLE, forget your differences and be AMERICANS!!! Its time to fight..now is the time, don’t do what they want, get together, train and give the f@#kers one hell of a suprise when they do show up…don’t be one..be 20+ and resist with overwhelming fire power and take no prisoners!!!!
Unknown Soldier Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
yes it soon will be time to take a stand. You’re absolutely right, get together, make contacts, and prepare!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
as a american patriot i say praise god and pass the ammunition cause they wont take my guns or disarm me to keep me from protecting my family and friends or supporting the constitution long live the republic
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
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August 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
dont forget, they have all our homes on GPS and all those UAV with powder dry…..rockets, have a bug out or a underground shelter under your house for when the s--- hits the fan. little cyber geeks with radio controlled F-ing airplanes and rockets sitting in there chairs in some govt office sipping tea and killing americans. never thought Id see this day……………….
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
From my cold dead hands! Liberty or death, don’t tread on me!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
“An Unarmed People Is an Enslaved People”.
“A Disarmed People Is a Conquered People”.
I will not be Conquered or Enslaved.
Death to Tyrants
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
This is not a law that I or any other 2ND amendment believer would recognize. According to Richard Mack the sheriffs department has authority over the President in our county. We need strong 2ND amendment leadership in our counties and should work in that direction. An idea would be to join the sheriffs posse to protect the country from federal encroachment.
firebirdak Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:08 am
RAZOR::: I like the way you think…I would love to join the posse here in Alaska, so any suggestions on how to do so?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
DEAR OAS,
To whom it may concern, We The People have determined your little treaty unconstitutional and therefore it is null and void.
And by the way… Your treaties are just “G.D. pieces of paper”. Just thought we would let you know!
firebirdak Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:10 am
All Thos in Favor of this comment? Aye
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I reckon we listen to the police. They are our friends. As is the government. I think you people are paranoid just a little. They know whats best for us! Maybe if no one owns a gun, no one can kill anymore. And the government will not hurt us. Do what they say and be a good citizen.
firebirdak Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 2:05 am
God Bless America: PUT THE BOOZE DOWN and WAKE UP from your neverland state of mind. If the Government is so good for us, then maybe you should go work for them where you feel so confident that they have the best interest of the AMerican People at heart. Then when all hell breaks loose and you are demanded to get a Swine Flu Vaccine that contains mercury, squaelene, and other lovely ingredients in adition to the avian, swine, and human flu, that we can watch the so Loving Government take care of you if something happens. Ohhh but they put a liabiltiy clause in the deal. If you are injured, left brain challenged or health challenged your s--- outaluck and that is exactly how much your cared for by them and the pocket books they carry. My father was the most influential and respected police officer on the Alameda County Police Dept. when I was growing up and let me tell you, the police officers are not willing to sway from their Oath so why should we? Why would a good Government Body even suggest such a thing if they were not trying to hide something or get away with something that only abiding by the Constitution would protect WE THE PEOPLE…Has the term WE THE PEOPLE meant nothing or does it mean everything?
buddah Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Guns dont kill people, people kill people. and they have been doing so since way before guns.
gun control causes more crime cause it eliminates the risk involved in atte,mpting a violent crime.
what they need to do is arm all non felons(which really i dont 100% aggre with maybe all violent crime felons but if u got a felony for a non violent crime i personally think u should be able to apply for gun ownership) and make it MANDATORY to carry a firearm at all times. a violent criminal would have to think twice before commiting a crime if he knew that it was gonna be a gunfight if he chooses to commit the crime and any witness is also gonna be armed.
take this example, say a bank robber is thinking of robbing the local bank. do u think he is gonna risk walking into a bank where theres at least 7 or 8 armed employees and all the bank customers are armed so hes potentilly walking into a situation where its him and his crew walking into a 15-20 man gunfight. no
if all citizens were forced to carry a gun at all times. alot of crime would disapeer and alot of people would be more honest.
i stated my opinion and stated some examples but i think its too late for u so make sure to line up for your flu shot and keep on trusting ur government
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
HAHAHAHAHA; WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER:) OAS and CIFTA can go f--- THEMSELVES:)——
August 4th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Did you forget, we are no longer under English rule, they may have given in to surrendering their guns, but we will never give in or give up any guns to you all on your presumed higher grown.
August 4th, 2009 at 6:33 am
you guys say you will fight to the death but will you , here we know the leaders of the N.W.O and
still nobody dose nothing about it, all you guys have to do is kill as many as you can rest of the
people will follow by suit not because it’s right or wrong or it’s cool or duty because if you don’t
then you’ll die if you don’t ” then it’s kill or be killed ” and that Constitution you know that pic of paper you all go nut’s over all it is ,is just rule to live by , what you all should be really mad at is the
politician who always say they are for the Constitution but they spit on George Washington and
Thomas Jefferson graves and stab us in the back when were not looking they are traitors and tyrants
they all most be dill with you know what i mean , lets just end this and ones we get our country back
lets make sure we the people get our weapons back to and keep them this time give up your arms
is not just against Constitution it’s also against the law you can be shoot
August 4th, 2009 at 7:05 am
The OAS is just a “goddamned piece of paper” if there ever was one.
I didn’t vote for it
It’s unconstitutional for our “representatives” to vote for it
I won’t abide by it
I don’t care who wants it
August 4th, 2009 at 7:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
August 4th, 2009 at 9:17 am
They can do whatever they like but until someone wrights a law (yuk yuk yuk) that nullifies the laws of kinetic energy and gravity. I shoot them and they fall down (hahaha). Bring it girls, and let the games begin. You better get here before I get there. Sorry, I got ta go, back to the reloading bench.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:50 am
I am not part of any world government. It’s that’s piece of s--- CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) that’s behind this s---. The U.S. Marines need to round them up. They are treasonous and need to be shut down and sent to Gitmo for questioning. A world “think tank” they call themselves. Just more greedy bastards wanting to shape the world for their own benefit. Why can’t this president show some leadership and use the Military Commissions Act to arrest these criminals?
Revolution Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
These treasonous are Afraid of Freedom They are and have been denouncing the truth of Christianity for Centuries Look at the Conquistadors they did us e religion and false teachings of the Roman Catholic Church via the distorted Monks that were using Religion for Political Gain with the King of Spain Land Grated to Them and Sovereignty of Status and behind then were the Cruelty of the Spanish Armies in S.America and Central and N.America’ maybe it was Gods will? and had to be to Overcome ‘the Heathen Practice of human sacrifice, Atrocities of all Kinds even Against the Overthrow of The American Indian from The white Dominance of the west was an Atrocity and the wisdom of the chiefs was to survive and the rest is history. It all started the the Crusades, Against the Muslims, and even those who used Christianity are the ones who brought forth the dominance off land, Gold, Silver $riches off the lands Around the World and we see it Used behind the American Human Virtue of Goodness and so Called Democracy(MOB RULE). but the truth shall set Us Free.”We The People of the Republic!
OJ Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Ron,
Barry is a member of the CFR, pay attention.
August 4th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Time for Arizona and a few others to get serious about succession and stop bowing to the Feds for Federal Highway funds.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:03 am
i AM A bad GUN OWNER………….. FOR THEM!!!! LOL
August 4th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Own Over 200 ak’s which when the time comes will spit more peacemakers out than they ever could want! And will give them away to anyone willing to fight to the death!!!!!!!!!
Dmac Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:14 am
AWSOME!!!!!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am
This will be the “official” crossing the proverbial “line in the sand”, assuming it may not happen prior because of issues such as bombing Iran, the depression etc.
I have spoken to quite a few people, and all ten of them said in no uncertain terms, they would NOT EVER give up their guns and they will fight to their death for them.
There are 100,000’s active and retired Law Enforcement and Military who WILL NOT follow any order to confiscate guns from the American people.
There are hundreds of millions more of us than them.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:59 am
They didn’t ask me about this treaty, I didn’t sign this treaty…..
Frankly I don’t give a damn about any F%$&@kin’ Treaty…..
They can kiss my ass!
I’ll use that treaty for target practice….
August 4th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
The Government hopefully, wouldn’t be that stupid, to try and take away our firearms! Using force, they would lose badly!!!!
People need to unite in their neighborhoods and set up perimeters to defend one another in such an instance!
IF EVERYONE would help their neighbors, then the government wouldn’t stand an iota of a chance to take ANYTHING FOR ANYONE!
August 4th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Any red-blooded American gun owner will not care if we have a gun ban treaty with aliens from Zeta reticulum,they won’t give ‘em up.
This may be difficult to believe,but I’ll bet that it would be easier to get the Pakistani’s to give up being Muslims than to get Americans to give up their weapons.
FUGETABOUTIT!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
You can’t treaty with a non-sovereign! There is no Country United Nations This is more of the law of the sea upon the land crap, B.S., and non-sence. It would not apply to the lawful Republic united States of America. Time to push the “District of Criminals” back to the 10 square mile area they are lawfuly entitled to. Disolve the “Buck-Act” FEDERAL STATES and re-store lawful Government! The temporary emergency of 1861 a.d. has surely expired! Like around 1865a.d. unfortunetly civil authority was NEVER re-stored…ooooooppppppssssss!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:04 am
For those nice people painting posters to this site as “Uneducated” or misguided I would ask…
What was the average education level in 1776 et al ?
What advanced degree must a person have to recognize tyrrany?
How much education is required to see your retirement has been looted?
Which degree is required to detect BS from the politico?
What form of math is needed to justify the costs of illegal immigration?
Which program outlined the benefits of losing our god given freedom?
What price is too high for freedom?
Perhaps the folks with common sense and survival skills may be the new PHD in the near future.
Let us hope that the new academia is more accomodating to the uneducated.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I certainly hope that we the people can wake up enough to realize our little P.H. degrees don’t matter worth a crap.Were losing our freedom people. We can’t sit around a drink beer,watch tv, and do nuthin’. Better wake up or you’ll be living dead.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
To Congress:
I warn you all.
You were not elected to create a Democratic majority.
You were elected to restore this country.
You were not elected to serve the corporations and the trusts who the government has
enabled for the last eight years.
You were elected to serve the people.
And if you fail to fufill this agreement, the full wrath of the progressive and the
moderate movements in this country will come down on your heads.
Explain yourselves not to me, but to all of us.
We elected you, and in the blink of an eye, WE will replace you.
If you will behave as if you are Republicans – as if you are the prostitutes of our system
- you will be judged as such.
And you will lose not merely our respect. You will lose your jobs!
So be warned, we are not tolerating the NANNY attitude and disreguard of our liberties,
safety and privacy anymore!
August 6th, 2009 at 8:13 am
brandon go to sportsmansguide.com to get your ammo
August 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am
FEAR: Too many otherwise good, patriotic American’s are frozen with fear over current events.
They aren’t going to make any preparations unless we get them out of the fear/freeze zone. If you
know someone like this, I urge you to help them through it and find comfort in confronting and
controlling their fears. It’s not going to get any easier. Better to help them through the
psychological part of this now. There is no substitute for the support of good friends and family.
However, if time and distance are an issue, I found a program that works. Visit my blog. God’s
speed.
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Vince Street
August 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The CONstitution does not apply to you http://www.stevequayle.com/New.....tution.pdf
August 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Soft and Hard Power.
I call this 5th generation warfare. And we need to win at this level if we are to be free of the typical herding techniques, the overclass uses to direct our outrage and anger against us.
They have their 4th generation, anti-revolutionary ( we damn well need to have one by a through house cleaning from conflict of intrests, bribery, extortion, murder, torture etc in open courts ) streatgy of divide and conquer overlayed with the terror of state violence.
We have the greatest advent in human history.
Free Information and with it, we can effect the 5th generation loop between the mind and the trigger, as the soldier/cop remembers the universality of human history and the echelons of degenerate families that has given the order to do evil to their brothers and sisters.
There is so much work to do. Are we intelligent and angry enough to do it?
August 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I have read all the above comments with interest. Some of you actually know reality, but most are totally lost.
During the revolutionary war, only 5% actually had the guts to fight. The other 95% were cowards or traitors to freedom. It will be the same %’s today, no doubt!
I agree that even those with big mouths (busy fingers hiding behind keyboards) wont do JACK! The Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Bohemian Grove, etc, et al gather often enough & with enough notice that anybody with real balls could bomb them all at once. It hasn’t happened & never will because you are all too busy reading blogs & typing how damn tough you all are.
When will you get a clue that battle is not against flesh & blood, but against powers, principalities & rulers (unseen) in dark places?!?! In other words “Spirits” who control their puppets. can you ever beat them? NO! Can God? Well duh! He’s God & He WILL beat them, but not before you are allowed to see the full evil of the controlling ilk.
Should we actually blame these misguided & used idiotic puppets? Should we blame Republicrats & Demicans? How do you beat them? Simple. Obey II Chronicles 7:14 READ IT! It’s not anybody’s fault but the sinning followers of Christ. Nothing is going to get “fixed” by humans acting tough behind a keyboard …EVER! Why even try when God promises He will do it all for you?
deathangel Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Why be so demeaning. Sounds hateful to me. You just want to sit on your butt, and let them haul you away in a train car. I’ll probably be dead long before that happens. If they come to my house to take my guns, I’ll shoot, and take as many as I can with me before they cap me. Sounds bad, huh? I’d rather die on my feet, than beg them to spare me. Yes, God is in control, and the evil doers will get theirs in the end, if they deny Christ. But God does not expect you to not do anything. Jesus himself said to His disciples, that they should sell their cloak, and buy a sword. For what? To defend themselves. Times were about to get rough for them. It wasn’t going to be easy for them later on in life. Just like it isn’t going to be for us.
August 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
im stock piled already with ammo my gun i will hide and when it comes time to bare arms im in.
leo Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
i woulud like to see the take my weapons i have avery good undetectable spot for them oh and by the way its time for a new president
August 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
You do have rights; you can turn the Government around.
The Human rights charter binds all members of the United Nations.
Google the site: United Nations Human rights: check out the charter.
Complaints can be made to the United nations.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Hey folks! I don’t give a flying fig what the anti-gunners are going to do. I’ll just break their law. I’m not obeying assholes who don’t believe in our Constitution. Grow a pair, and get ready for the war. It’s coming.