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    Jeff Cox
    CNBC
    November 23, 2009

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    As experts debate the potential speed of the US recovery, one figure looms large but is often overlooked: nearly 1 in 5 Americans is either out of work or under-employed.

    According to the government’s broadest measure of unemployment, some 17.5 percent are either without a job entirely or underemployed. The so-called U-6 number is at the highest rate since becoming an official labor statistic in 1994.

    The number dwarfs the statistic most people pay attention to—the U-3 rate—which most recently showed unemployment at 10.2 percent for October, the highest it has been since June 1983.

    The difference is that what is traditionally referred to as the “unemployment rate” only measures those out of work who are still looking for jobs. Discouraged workers who have quit trying to find a job, as well as those working part-time but looking for full-time work or who are otherwise underemployed, count in the U-6 rate.

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    48 Responses to “The ‘Real’ Jobless Rate: 17.5% Of Workers Are Unemployed”

    1. eightysixed Says:

      LAST!

      Chasity Reply:

      Dammit!

      Voting is for suckers Reply:

      According to Alan Colmes, these CNBC figures are a conspiracy theory.

      doctorclaus Reply:

      Is Swine Flu Hype to spread the BIG ONE?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7zzQh_Ye8

      josh Reply:

      Alan Colmes is almost as big a tool as hannity.

      and i’m still surprised by how many idiots come here and think we are all a bunch of ‘right-wingers’… ROFLMFAO!

      whitemale08 Reply:

      …and Global Carbon Warmers wants unemployment to go even hire; driving everyone into serfdom and neo-fuedalism.

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      Robert Lane Aiassa Reply:

      Democracy Vs. Capitalism (!)
      Article One- Through all 50 states- The US Constitution Stands.

      What Really Happened:

      The US Constitution Changed; The PATRIOT ACT and the mass effect that american corporations have had on washington politic’s. How they stole the country by storm… and the mass effect it has had on the american lifestyles and the economy!

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      The democrats set the stage… and tha ball just keeps on rolling (!)

      Stop (!) The Federal Resreves and their political exploits on the stock market… how the’re continuing to use the tax payers monies and investing in corporate policies.

      The rich keep stealing from society…

      “THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE PLAN”

      This brings back the expression don’t steal (taxes) and its because the US Federal Government doesn’t like the competition (!)

      They like keeping the people blind folded. (D) The Mainstream Media.

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      pass them out to every high school student and HIGHER

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    2. Chasity Says:

      1rst

    3. Chasity Says:

      Did you even READ the article?

    4. ACA Says:

      will you all stop this 1st crap no one cares if your first, and if you are you need to put something up like i was first 6 times this week!!!!

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    6. Alex "Jarhead" Jones Says:

      Alex “Jarhead” Jones got his ass whipped !!!

      Jarhead became louder, and louder begging C to step outside. That is when Steve, said, and I quote. “I can’t believe you’re acting like this because he called you a Jarhead.” He spun around and focused his fury on Mystery S. When he said “step outside, and I’ll whip you like my -bee yatch-.” Mystery S said OK, let’s go… and led the way. Jarhead hesitated, then followed. As did Charlie (of The Show with No Name) and Kanya (no name co-host, & play toy) with C, and the driver.

      Jarheads next brave move was to announce that he had a gun, and began foraging around in his truck. Steve said, oh, now your gonna shoot me you pussy. Jarhead came from the truck with his hand in his pocket, and slowly advanced towards Steve. Steve retreated 2 or 3 steps, then said, “Then shoot me” and promptly nailed Jarhead with a right hook. They both just stood there for what seemed like a long time, then Steve let many more fly.

      Jarhead tried to throw one… that’s right, one punch which grazed Steve’s nose… like flicking at a booger. At this point Iggy came out of the studio. Jarhead saw him, and screamed for him to go get Bob. Iggy ran in to do his masters bidding. Steve hit him a few more times. By now Charlie had convinced C and his friend to get out of there. They got in the car, and split. (with Steve) Bob came running out, to see Jarhead bleeding profusely, and shouting “they jumped me with knives!” Charlie disputed this, so Jarhead spit blood on him…So Charlie, bless him, punched him right in that mason jar of a head. When the cops came, Jarhead was ranting and changing his story with each breath… began to talk of his importance… and his families wealth… and his relatives in the FBI!!!

      AJ Defense Force Reply:

      You might be a redneck if…

      If posting the same lame fight story on Infowars over and over again makes you feel like a real man.

      Is this you on youtube by the way? Sure looks like you anyways.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrjHecsWp_o

    7. resist Says:

      This means that every 4 out of 5 Americans is paying for it! Include the undocumentd illegal immigrants receiving government subsidized programs like CPS or Antidump services, thats a heavy load for the average 4 out of 5 hard working American to be paying for. Something has to give somewhere. http://www.hardrite.com

    8. Tman Says:

      I agree. The economy will stay flatline for a good while unless there is some other bubble. Right now I think that bubble is welfare state. Money from the taxpayers going to pay the unemployed and Wallstreet. Every bubble bursts, and taxpayers will eventually see tax hikes. I’m not a taxpayer, so I don’t care.

      ncpatriot Reply:

      yer a dumbass unemployment doesnt cost the txpayers why do you think they passed it so easily ,if it werent for unemployment the housing and gdp numbers would look way worse.unemployment is paid for by the employers and even the extensions are derffered from that trust ,so everyone paying there bills with thier unemployment checks is actually helping the economy.thats why congress passed ot so easily they reap the benifits and it cost them nothing and besides that not everyone qualifies for unemployment u have to work at your job for awhile in short it is not a giveaway,people on ui arent your typical welfare cases most have homes and families welfare recipients are different,if it werent for unemployment being paid forclosures would be way higher,basically there is 7.5 million people unemployed ,imagine what that ripple effect would have had they not been able to pay thier living expenses,everyone would loose

      SilentJay Reply:

      Thanks NCPatriot. The elite love when middleclass workers blame the unemployed for their problems.

      mcleod Reply:

      you are soooooo right!!!

      alex Reply:

      I thought the employer only paid PART of the cost.

    9. Lobo Says:

      I have so many friends and family facing unemployment. Those jobs ain’t coming back.

      Freedom is in peril. Defend it with all your might.

      PAINTING IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBfHFJPKpiM

    10. lex Says:

      Average persons already lose more than 60% of pay to taxes if you include sales tax and all the other taxes on fuel and so on. It hardly pays to work anymore, all you do is support an illegitimate govt and illegal wars.

    11. A WAY OUT Says:

      Its like the titanic hit the iceburg and is sinking fast and instead of getting in the lifeboats yall are bitchin at each other, the ship is not coming back up people. margarita island is full of opportunity cheapest cost of living in the world, 4 cent a gallon gas free health care no taxes, no hurricanes, all food is organic by law. for more info check out http://www.escapethestates.com I have plenty of references from people I have moved down here, jump on the underground railraod and find out what it is like to live in a country that has alot more freedom then the united states. Put your money in a different currency and get out with it and dont look back. soon the dollar will be worth nothing, then you are stuck like a turd in the toilet. thanks for listening, if you need help contact me, My wife and I have plenty of knowledge about living here on margarita island we moved here 3 years ago with 3 small children and 3 dogs. We had to get our kids away from the toxic foods and environment. We can help you escape the states no matter what situation you are in. We can also save you 30 to 40% off your airline tickets to the island.

      sucks to be u Reply:

      run away, run away, run away, you coward

    12. Chris ~ Says:

      I am not defending Trudeau, however my advice to you is not to believe everything you read on wikipedia.

      Xander Cross Reply:

      My advice to you is to not believe in everything you read on infowars and anything from trudeau. Also, yes, he really did pretended to be a doctor which is illegal. I bet you think that is okay for him to steal customers credit cards. No wonder how he got so rich because he was stealing for a living.

    13. lee Says:

      I am concerned that with all the information systems out there and coputer optimization that the current unemployed will EVER be able to get work again based on these computer optimization hiring models. no longer is it even possible to get an interview the old fashioned way, by personal introduction and some pleasant conversation. you MUST enter a resume, soc sec number, credit score, you know, things like credit score there is a huuuge movement to ignore our credit scores and bring down that beast. what price freedom?

    14. lee Says:

      Me and a few of my friends and neighbors have banded together. one card between 7 people now. everyone in the group recognizes that usury is not going to end with this govt without some kind of cooperative action. so me and my neighbors gave up the cards and we have one group card if you will that one of us has for those time when say we need to use credit to say buy supplements online, because supplements in the store are like twice the price , for those situations, and we basically pay the guy with the card a few extra dollars.

    15. paramike Says:

      Good MORNING!!!!!

    16. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      The ” human ” specie , especially the modern day version , is the only specie in the universe
      stupid enough to be strugglin’ with ” unemployment ” !!!

      Every other type of living entity is all set !!!

      sucks to be u Reply:

      Thanks for the insight professor. Hey how bout some breakfast Porky?

      Tyson Mike Reply:

      I’ll have a breakfast wit’ ya !!!

    17. Darwin Says:

      The “human” specie is also the only one with housing, farming, education, entertainment etc.
      Can’t speak for “off-world”, but I’m guessing things aren’t perfect there either.

      When I think of you, I’ll whisper your name “geeeneeiusss” lol

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      Safe n’ except that when you’re unemployed , you can shove your fair share of housing ,
      farming , education , entertainment etc… up your ass !!!

      Ultimately though , ” The donkey thinks he has to work real hard to get a little grass from
      masta , because he’s too dumb to understand that there is grass everywhere !!! ”

      P.S. Go ahead , call me a genius !!!

    18. tfrey Says:

      The stimulus package did little to help unemployment unless you worked on interstates or highways. It did not bring back manufacturing jobs from overseas. The people in power are going to continue the same old economic pattern (Keynsian Economics). Thus they will not revive this economy and it will slowly die, along with their outdated economic theories.

      Dennis in MI Reply:

      Did you see that GoldSacks paid a whoppin 1% tax? Financial Transaction (Tobin) Tax on their damn deriviatives would go a long way towards tamping down the speculation and towards increased tax revenue from the 5% elites.
      I work for a tribal government and yall know that like all govt, they can never get enough money!

      mike65 Reply:

      THE unemployment rate is much higher than 17.5%.

      ncpatriot Reply:

      The Austrian School is what got us into this mess and allowed thieves to walk with trillions,if it had been slightly regulated rather than no intervention at all,we might have had some accountability but since we the people never truly made the f---ing rules in the first place what do u expect thieves will be thieves

    19. mcleod Says:

      the republicans i believe are one in the same with corporate america and big business…corporations and big business are entities that employ people…they are not doing that…so i’m led to believe that the republicans do NOT want people to have a job so that they can BLAME the present administration and the democratic congress for high unemployment thus regaining power in the election cycle….basically using it as a political tool at the expense of the american citizen…but you will never hear a republican politician admit to…but its on their mind…GOP is a sorry ass excuse for a political party in this country…they only divide people through race…economics…religion…intimidation…fear…and etc….they have no policy to move the party so they use these tactics and character assassination to gain control…WAKE UP PEOPLE OF THE USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ncpatriot Reply:

      u believe? have you even read the bills the republicans have introduced in the last ten years? go read the bill repubs vs dems and then lets compare,yes repubs like big business and less regulattion and taxes but they also dont like imigrants coming in droves[with the exception to bush seems hes always the exception]like the dems want to give 12 million amnesty which is totally absurd in this economy .i voted for the whole we need change and bought into it but that was before i went and read the bills,and u will see the truth,its the liberals that are giving away the country ,they are insane with power and all the old arguments of republicans not doing s--- for 8 years its all true also,point is dont rely on aj to get your news or fox or cnn you have to go read the bills we have 1 year left to reverse this trainwreck please educate yourself before nov2010

      alex Reply:

      whatever

    20. Justin James Says:

      “17.5% of Workers are Unemployed.”Does that really even make sense? I mean, how can you work and be unemp…. I’m sure you get it.

      FRRE ME Reply:

      Dont be fooled…we are headed to depression stats…..right now.

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    22. Dont forget your pitchforks! Says:

      They should make the most of their time and march on Washington D.C. instead of waiting on the phone for hrs on end with unemployment.

    23. Retribution Says:

      That is one poorly designed web site. Something about it says trojan to me.

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