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The UN, Eugenics and the Mass Media
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Infowars
May 8, 2009
A March 2009 policy brief by the United Nations Population Division reveals that the long-term plan for worldwide population reduction is not going fast enough, not by a long shot. Under the desperate headline ‘What would it take to accelerate fertility decline in the least developed countries?’ the policy brief gives an overview of the progress made by developing countries in regards to the globalists set goal of reducing population and proposes several ways of speeding up the death. Richly draped with graphic illustrations on the state of global population and the progress made by the UN to bring back fertility to ‘acceptable’ levels, the policy brief advises an increased effort on the part of governments to commit to a strict family planning- policy and other measures designed to bring a halt to life.
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| In New York in December 1994, the United Nations’ participants came up with some practical solutions to the ‘population problem’ — one of which is the integration of population issues with matters of ‘environment’ and ‘human development.’ | |
‘The persistence of high fertility in the majority of the least developed countries and the slow fertility reductions observed among them are associated with high levels of unmet need for family planning.(…) The reduction of fertility could be accelerated if effective measures were taken to satisfy the existing unmet need for family planning.’
After these recommendations, the authors plunge into a long, wailing lament about the slow progress of the desired reducing of the population. They also point the finger to a lack of commitment of the governments concerned and, as expected, the need for a global intervention in order to avoid certain destruction.
This recent policy brief was just one update out of many in regards to the long-term plan by the elite to significantly bring down the numbers of the existing earth population. From the moment the Rockefeller funded ‘family planning’-machine was widely kicked off in the 1960s and 70s, numerous meetings have been held in the last couple of decades where various strategies were discussed to implement population-reduction on as large a scale as possible. The strategies in question were especially directed towards the third world as the globalists had virtual carte blanche in the impoverished developing countries. The famous 1994 population conference in Cairo outlined some of the proposed strategies to be implemented. Then Secretary-General of the UN, Boutros Boutros-Ghali in his opening statement on the International Conference on Population and Development, stated that:
‘I am not exaggerating when I say that not only does the future of the human society depend on this Conference but also the efficacy of the economic order of the planet on which we live.’
During a follow-up-meeting held in New York on December 1994, the United Nations’ participants came up with some practical solutions to the ‘population problem’ – one of which is the integration of population issues with matters of ‘environment’ and ‘human development.’ Another part of the agenda of pressing people to cut down on the number of children was to combine the issue of family-planning with environmental issues:
‘Several priority areas were identified that needed immediate action by the participants. These included creation of awareness of the interrelationships between environment, population and development; advocacy; education; training; population management; gender concerns; monitoring and evaluation; and information dissemination and networking.’
Under the headline: ‘Youth NGOs Agree to Integrate Environment and Population Issues in their Activities’ were mentioned the following activities to brainwash young NGO’s into the right mindset by, again, mixing in environmental issues with population issues:
‘To cooperatively address development problems from the youth perspective, which will ensure their maximum participation, a Working Group of the Regional Consultation of Youth NGOs in Asia and the Pacific was organized in 1994 to mobilize a network of youth NGOs in the region. Among the current issues identified by the Working Group as requiring priority attention were the problems dealing with population, environment and sustainable development. Hence, a Working Group Meeting of the Regional Consultation of Youth NGOs in Asia and the Pacific was held from 19-21 April 1995 at the UNESCO PROAP to discuss and shape a plan of action integrating issues on environment, population and development for consideration by the youth NGOs. (…) To help them develop a relevant plan of action, the participants were exposed and sensitized to the current policies and programmes adopted by FAO, UNEP, UNFPA, and UNESCO in the areas of population, environment and development.’
Further on the use of mass-media is being proposed as effective ‘carriers of population-information’ to hammer dehumanization into the collective consciousness:
‘With more than 2 billion radios in the world, roughly one for every three people, and growing number of televisions, the electronic media plays an increasingly important and influential role in building awareness of population and other development issues.’
The report continues with a prime example of predictive programming:
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
‘Radio and television soap operas featuring family planning themes, popular songs on population-related issues, and phone-in question-and-answer sessions have all had an impact in different countries. The use of such media can be very important where literacy is low or where written information is not widely circulated. A TV soap opera series is credited with bringing thousands to family planning clinics in Mexico, and night-time drama series integrating family planning themes have proved successful in Egypt, Nigeria and Turkey.‘
In a January 1994 preparation meeting for the Cairo conference called ‘Family Planning Communications Strategies Examined’ the issue was discussed how best to use the media to create tolerance among the general public and ‘how attitudes and beliefs could be changed through the innovative use of traditional and mass media.’
‘The meeting featured case studies and presentations by communication practitioners and covered a wide range of subjects, such as: the use of folk tradition and drama to organize community action in Egypt; the use of micro-communications to encourage acceptance of family planning in the Philippines; the use of traditional and modern media in Ghana; and the use of songs to propagate family planning messages in Latin America. The success in India and Mexico of radio and television soap operas and films on family planning subjects was also discussed.’
During the meeting the Executive Coordinator of the ICPD, Jyoti Shankar Singh, stressed the importance of using mass media to ‘convey family planning and reproductive health messages’:
‘Electronic media, print media (and) interpersonal interventions were all part of the kind of comprehensive information, education and communication (IEC) strategies we need in pursuit of population goals.’
In another technical report (‘Guidelines on Basic Education with special attention to Gender Disparities for the UN Resident Coordinator System’) the message is repeatedly conveyed that:
‘It is important that information be disseminated through various channels including traditional means and packaged in various forms to allow both literate and illiterate persons to understand the key messages.’
In 1997 the UNFPA organized a ‘Regional Media Seminar on Population and Development’ for the role of the mass media in (euphemistically called) ‘Information Repackaging’ for the Pacific islands. The UN officials boasted on the success of the seminar:
‘The seminar brought together journalists in the print and radio media from 9 countries of the South Pacific to explore both the role and potential of mass media as a vehicle for population advocacy, information, education and communication. (…) The seminar explored the role of the media in developing and packaging population materials for identified target groups. The meeting also provided development partners with an opportunity to forge networks with media personnel and develop effective strategies to better address population and development goals and accelerate the implementation of the ICPD (International Conference on Population and Development) Programme of Action.’
In other words: every possible resource should be utilized for propagandizing different target audiences. But the people burdened with designing and implement population education on a large scale emphasized the need for a common tongue and sequence of arguments with which the different UN-divisions sell the people on the idea of dehumanization.
‘Mr. Michael Vlassoff, Senior Technical Officer, Technical and Evaluation Division, UNFPA, introduced the work of the Working Group on Policy-Related Issues. He explained that the Working Group had decided to address the “common advocacy” concern by drawing up a Statement of Commitment that would then be issued by all agencies and organizations involved in the IATF. The aim of such a statement would be to ensure that all UN agencies and organizations use the same language regarding population and development issues.’
The report goes on to list these arguments with which populations worldwide should be lured into embracing modern-day eugenics as a sensible policy:
‘The “Statement of Commitment on Population and Development by the United Nations System”, drafted by the Working Group, is divided into three sections: a general introduction stressing the commitment by the UN agencies and organizations to implement ICPD (International Conference on Population and Development); a section on the linkages between population issues and other development issues; and a concluding section calling for global partnership in addressing these interrelated issues.’
In short- a great part of the 1990s were occupied with a great mobilization of mass media for propaganda purposes by the global elite, a test case so to speak, before implementing the same strategies worldwide in the first decade of the 21st century. And lo and behold! The great global warming swindle arrives just in time as an environmental as well as a development issue to attach the basic message to: there are too many of us- and our numbers should be reduced before the planet is destroyed. Because the warming is global, the response should be so as well. However eloquently the message may be presented by hopelessly compliant media outlets, it is the tyrant’s voice we discern amidst the chatter- and all with ears to hear should educate their neighbor in this all-out information war. Let’s not forget what the elite who have funded the UN from the moment of its very conception have always aspired. In the words of the aristocratic fiend Prince Philip:
‘If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.’
Sources:
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/UNPD_policybriefs/UNPD_policy_brief1.pdf
http://www.un.org/popin/icpd/conference/offeng/addproga.html
http://www.un.org/popin/unfpa/taskforce/guide/iatfb-ed.gdl.html
http://www.un.org/popin/unfpa/taskforce/guide/iatfrep2.gdl.html
http://www.un.org/popin/regional/asiapac/fiji/news/97dec/p6.htm
http://www.un.org/popin/icpd/newslett/94_11/1107.html
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May 8th, 2009 at 11:44 am
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Classic videos such as Jack Boot Jones and Obama Zombie rants can be found at the channel.
Hilarious stuff, we will also broadcast emergency bulletins as and when needed
We’re aware of the severity of the world situation but everyone needs a place to smile through this Tyranny.
Mike V Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Thanks for taking the time to do this! Sometimes we all need to step back, however briefly, to take in a bit of humor to get us through the day.
dues ex organica Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
good job, very entertaining, keep spreading alex’s videos.
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Its good to laugh! Comedy is the grease of mankind…LOL!
May 8th, 2009 at 11:44 am
yep- they suck all right. This is really scary stuff
May 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Don’t you just love how they make it sound as natural as possible on their readings.
Reciting the words many times used on this website:
You wan’t population control? you first!
May 8th, 2009 at 11:54 am
…it doesnt seem like killing off the 3rd world would be all that profitable. why would you kill off the part of the world that is accustumed to living with less and are not “awake” to the “truth”. If I was Dr. Evil I would cull the consumers of the industrialized world …plus what of the “hardly” tappd resorces of places like Africa ,South America ect. for me it answers the Q’s of religion, health care,lack of boarder control,cheap labor….IDK
The Dude Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Third world folks may be accustomed to living with less, but they tend to more family oriented thus they stick together.
Are you kidding me? Western folks are the most gullible sheep on the planet. If Tom Brokaw said it’s true then it MUST be true, right?
May 8th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Dirty bastards. One brave martyr is needed to fly a plane into the un building when its in full session.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
This is total nonsense. Look, if all people in the world had well paid jobs and were well educated they would contain their reproduction on their own. Encouraging the creation of new industry would generate jobs with revenue that would increase the quality of life everywhere thus ending poverty and ending violence. I am an immigrant physician from Colombia, South America, a so called “third world” country. I have studied a lot to come and immigrate to this country. I am 30 right now and how many kids are trailing behind me: zero. I look forward for a family but when the time is right and the assets are available to have them have a good quality of life.
What do you expect from people who are unemployed, living in poverty and watching babes in bikini all day in the TV. Well, irresposible reproduction, demographic explosion and poor quality of life……………You get my point?
We need to support independent industry different from the mainstream corporate loop to give other people the chance of developing the “free enterprise” that transformed the United States into the most powerful country in the world.
pj Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Ever try to tell a Christian to “contain there reproduction”. Even in the industrialized world the population is increasing. I don’t ever remember hearing about the earth having 36 billion acres of land and over 6 billion people when I was in school. Overpopulation is the biggest problem the world faces these next 100 years and you almost never hear about it. Lack of education about the subject is what the New World Order wants, and they have it. It is so late in the game, overpopulation and the destruction of the earth’s ecosystem is on our doorstep. Either we will fight each other for the crops in the field, or The New World Order will get out the Weapons of Mass Destruction and wipe out a few billion people, or they will get there way and control our lives like in China. I would vote “yes” to a law in the U.S. stating only one child per person or you get a huge 100,000.00 fine. Problem solved.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I think you are locked-on about the world’s wealthy corporations not caring much about this issue because of poor being easily exploited. On the other hand, people who can afford the 100,000 dollar fine will probably not be the ones having the sextuplets. Ok, so you fine them. What happens when they are on welfare already, the taxpayers are already paying to support them? Do you jail the parents and then pay others to raise the children on top of it? No matter what you legislate, the poor will continue to lack the desired self-control, making the issue highly complex.
I swear you folks watch too much t.v. Everyone seems to jump right to the WMD’s and visions of millions being purposefully wiped out by nefarious global elites, like Rick Moranis in Spaceballs. ‘Playing with your dolls again, boss?’
man up Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
pj,
go f--- your self. why dont you do mother earth a favor and blow your brains out you hater of humanity?? Every person in the world could fit in north America and still have an acre to live on you fool. You are telling nothing but lies. The biggest problem the world faces in the next 100 years is people like you. Your probably some UN, Rothschild or British royalty scum bag, who dumps toxic waste in our waters while screaming “over population” huh? A big fat ass Gaia worshiper who hates Christians is all I see. Oh, the world is gonna die is what you say while your to much of a punk ass bitch coward to do your mother earth a favor and walk off a cliff. When you go kill all your family friends co workers and everyone else who thinks how your hate group thinks, then you come here to tell us your gonna blow your brains out. thats when you have done something. Untill then ,like I said- GO f--- YOUR SELF.
BTW if infowars wants to ban me or my IP, big f---ing deal. They should ban bitches like you who promote your eugenics over population NWO, Elite crap
gusto Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
here here
Chaarzarul Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
you moron, all of north america is not habitable. geeeez!
man up Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Total land area of North America 24,486,305 km² (6,050,697,738 acres) ok fool, you tell me what part of any land mass on our globe is un inhabitable? You cant, Theres not one inch of land mass that cant be occupied. From the deserts to the arctic, ALL of it is habitable moron. Got that? the total LAND MASS of North America is
(6,050,697,738 acres) Which for YOUR information ONLY equates to 4.8 % of the earths TOTAL LAND MASS. Considering how pleasant North America is compared to alot of other places I would say it would a pretty good place to hang out. Your another Gaia lover who surely has an agenda. Not everyone falls for your lies though
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Well, Hello to you too. Obviously you advocate having sex with yourself. Asexuality for folks like you is probably the way to go. Can’t get pregnant that way, can we? Less morons to deal with. Anyway, I take great pleasure in setting folks like you straight- and, see I can do it diplomatically and without all the ridiculous drivel that’s spilling from your every pore.
Friend, simply by calculating dividing the number of people on the earth by the total number of acres tells us absolutely nothing. Ok, you’ve proven you can do sixth grade math. Whoopdie doo. (Though, I’ll bet your elementary school teacher would be proud).
Let’s take a peek back at the issue again, shall we? This time without all the angst and death threats. (Though, it’s very comical how you defend both mother earth AND her human population WHILE at the same time advocating death along with your twisted sex fantasies. Good job. You’re certain to win many fans with the inbreeds on this site).
The truth is that man MIGHT have the capacity to feed all 5 billion people on the planet to date, THEY DON’T! Hundreds of thousands of children die of starvation every year on this planet and no one blinks an eye. Sure, I would agree that IF the goals of man were on social justice and equality for all- and we put our war money into feeding all the children of the world- we probably could solve the hunger problem. Sadly, though, this is not the case. Never was.
Mankind takes for himself all he can and leaves the rest to fend for themselves. (We in America probably throw away enough food to feed the planet, but who cares?) In this current system in its current form we MUST promote family planning and that includes using rewards and punishment to avert a worse hunger crisis than currently exists. I am not a ‘hater of humanity’ because I believe in freedom and responsibility. If more people took the responsibility ALONG with the freedom, this issue would not be a problem at all. Unfortunately, in case you haven’t noticed, sir, there is a huge lopsided resource gap in the world between the rich and poor nations. These poor nations currently rely on the charity of others to exist. What happens when these donor nations decide to reduce funding? People starve! And, you would rather see millions of starving children die instead of responsible family planning?
You people are exactly what’s wrong with this country. Like many American’s you cannot see beyond your Sesame Street view of the world. Because you can have as many children as you like and the US government will simply pay to feed them doesn’t mean it works like that all over the planet. That works well here because America HAS ABUNDANT FOOD SUPPLIES! Countries that do not MUST legislate SELF-CONTROL to avoid tremendous human suffering.
I know this is a source of consternation for you sir, and you can call me whatever you like. You can even make up some new stuff. Love the British Royalty comment, though. A new one. That’s funny. Got it from Jonsey, no doubt. You sound like a great ‘ditto head’ of his. I’m sure he’s proud. Too bad you couldn’t superimpose his brain over your own, then you wouldn’t have to run around pretending to be him, you would actually BE HIM!
man up Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
NO one made any death threats fool. I was making a point that if you or people like you are so concerned about over population, why are you always trying to kill off other people or new born children? If your so concerned why not set an example for the other haters of humanity and off yourself? I like how you try to twist my words to fit as you like. Funny though that you got upset about my “British Royalty” comment. You know what that tells us? it says you are a British royal inbred eugenics swine who hates humanity. My comment was for pj but since you want to stick your nose in my comment, then you can go f--- your self to. I’M sick of you mother f---ers who think you have the right to say who can live or die. If you think the population needs to be culled, then start with yourselves and leave us humans (Born and UN born) ALONE!!! Now what?
Go Queenslander Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Cheeseburger,
You seem to not comprehend the message of this article or what others on this site understand.
1. Starvation in this world is a direct result of the people in “high places” including those sitting on UN boards and the rest weilding their powerful wands of influence on this world. Their NWO needs has a use for third world starving populations. One of those uses is to suck you into thinking that there is some type of food shortage on this planet and that environmental issues affect these poor people negatively.
2. Every issue that you think is negative in this world (ie: global warming, third world starvation bla bla bla) are all created by the “powers that be”…. Illuminati or whatever people want to call them
If you don’t understand that angle that most people on this forum take, then you are being very niave in thinking that you are going to convert any of us to your dumb uneducated way of life.
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Excellent point about “outsmarting them”.
Violence will only get you into big trouble. It is NEVER the answer.
Violence is for idiots that cannot think. Violence makes you look like an idiot. We need to keep posting this message so that people think twice about doing something violent that would hurt (innocent) people.
I really worry about some of the things people post on here.
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Cheeseburger, You have some very good points.
Having a family farm since 1830, I know first hand how the food gets to the dinner table. If we did not have modern farming methods, people in America would be starving. We are just lucky that we can now feed the rest of the world…..
However, that is not going to continue…
We are running out of water, and the chemicals we put on our crops year after year are making people SICK.
We produce vast amounts of food, but how long can that continue??? Then what??
Limiting your family size just makes sense. And….do you really think women want to have so many children? In third world countries childbirth is an ordeal that can easily end in death.
In third world countries, women are expected to pump out a baby every year. The more babies a man creates the higher his status. They often have numerous wives, with 12-13 year olds being married off as soon as possible and impregnated as soon as possible.
What kind of life do these poor women have? Birth control would set them free, but sadly, most of these cultures frown on limiting family size.
Having all these children just to feed the male ego, well to me that is SICK!!
Mike V Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
We need to stop funding the people who have become “career welfare recipients.” It isn’t the working class popping out kids every year. Time to STOP enabling lazy people who just want to sit around and do nothing more than procreate. If they realize there is no benefit of a handout, more common sense just might prevail.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I agree with you in part. I think family planning in America is a symptom of how we completely lack self-control. It’s not only the ‘career welfare recipients’ who fit into this category. They have always been the easiest stereotypical targets. Now we have thousands of American’s who are homeless because they couldn’t control their budgets. We have record numbers of obese citizens, BOTH RICH, MIDDLE-CLASS AND POOR alike, because they cannot stop stuffing four meals a day down their fat asses. We have people addicted to all kinds of substances, both prescription and illicit because they cannot control their desire to live high. We have internet sex-addicts, video-game addicts, etc. Family planning is a responsibility that is mostly ignored at all levels of our society. Even our government cannot control itself. We have spent so much money in the last decade that even the f---ing Chinese are starting to say, hey, I don’t know if these people CAN ever pay us back- even if they wanted to!
I say the issue of family planning is exactly what the UN needs to be doing to avoid tremendous starvation and social unrest in the future. Just because some f---ing idiot rednecks say, ‘well, man ders nuff’ acres on da earth to feed all my kin folks’ doesn’t mean it will be used for that purpose. On the issue of population control, not everyone should have the right to be a f---ing octomom and thank God the UN is being proactive in dealing with the issue. BTW, is Jonsey broadcasting naked again today? Crazy bastard.
Breathing easy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Population control or family planning is a very controversial topic. Population control as China had, is the ultimate in gov’t invading your life. What can’t have sex anymore unless the gov’t or some world organization approves of it?
But I also agree, that amongst the “welfare crowd” having more babies becomes a financial gain. Even lounging around on the couch all day probably gets boring, why not throw in some sex to break the monotny. Handing out free condoms and birth control pills in high schools promotes promiscuis behavior and spreads veneral diseases.
Responsibilty has been thrown to the wayside, and many corporations make billions and billions off people being irresponsible.
Now we have genetic altered foods, irradiated foods, why? because they are more wholesome? Far from it, to get the same nutrition form a apple say grown in the 1930’s, you would need to purchase and eat 3 apples grown today to get the same nutrition.
Irradiation and genetic manipulated foods “look better” on the shelf for a longer period of time, thereby increasing profits.
The big issue will be drinkable water. So many of the rivers, streams and lakes today are so polluted from chemical runoff, fertilizers, pesticides and the like. Eating fish from some of these waterways is the same as committing suicide.
But the gov’t telling me when I can have sex? Try to enforce that one, lol.
Mike V Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
True enough. However, even with the thousands of people newly unemployed and/or homeless, I seriously do believe that they will fight to get above water in some form or fashion. Everyone goes through bad spells and finds a way and means to get out of their predicaments.
Go to any food pantry and you will over hear comments by the career welfare families as opposed to those who are there with their tail between their legs because they have fallen on hard times. The conversations will swing from angry demands due to falsely held beliefs that the world owes them an existence when they never put anything into the system. On the other end, you have people stating that they will find a way to “pay back” a pantry for their assistance during their hard time.
As far as the 4 meals a day and prescribed substance abuse, as far as I am concerned, as long as it isn’t coming out of the US tax dollars, I could care less what they do to their bodies. It’s when we are inadvertently funding the people who sit around and do nothing, generation after generation that really burns my butt. We have enabled a nation of lazy people who simply think the US taxpayer is their sugar daddy and it HAS to stop!
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Cheeseburger-
Yes, I agree with you on many of these points.
Those people who think we can grow crops all over the place have no idea what it takes to grow something and bring it to market. Let me assure you, anything that can turn a profit is already under cultivation. There are a limited number of acres in the world that you can grow crops on.
And, I am sorry, but certain people should not be allowed to reproduce. If you get two people together with a low IQ, they are not going to have a high IQ child. It would be a lot different if they could take care of themselves, but do they?? No, they do not. They are a drain on society pure and simple.
The Octo Mom, and those like her should be ashamed of themselves. Her tubes should have been tied a long time ago. She don’t want to work and take care of her children, so why does she have them? The rest of us who slug it out at work everyday and limit our own family size because we cannot afford more than two children. Now we get to support her lazy ass. Those children should have been adopted out, and the Octo Mom should get her miserable ass a JOB like the rest of us.
freedommom Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
You people must all be 12 years old.. without education and without wisdom.
First, we are FAR from cultivating all tillable land and bringing it to market, so open your eyes, start learning, Kinder. That’s propaganda. Get an atlas and do the math. Most people can grow enough to partially feed their families, if they would get off the damn computer and get to WORK. I’m from a farm family, too, and they are the most brainwashed on earth. Ever heard of intensive farming? Container gardens? There’s LOTS of info out there if you take the time to read. You do know how to READ don’t you?
Second, Carla, who made you the arbiter of IQ as a measure of intelligence? Read Gardner, if you can (it’s kinda hard). Don’t know who Gardner is? Then stop telling the rest of us who should live and who shouldn’t.
Third, a medical professional friend of mine thinks Octomom probably was part of a genetic experiment, thus the extreme and unusual survival rate, and the lockdown on more info on the case. So her kids have the best money can buy.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Starting with Bill Clinton’s welfare reform program the problem of ‘career welfare recipients’ is not what it once was. I agree there is a problem with mother’s having children just to exist on the system, but short of forced-sterilization I don’t see a practical way of ending this problem. This is why I mentioned America’s problem being tied to lacking self-control. Obviously our government does not have a very good track record when it comes to legislating human behavior. You need look no further than the ‘war on drugs’ as evidence. Billions wasted. Millions more hooked on dope. Not puttin’ that one in the win column.
I love how you right-winger’s will pick on the hundred’s of millions our government spends taking care of these welfare mom’s and their children, while ignoring a much larger pink elephant in America’s living room- called CORPORATE WELFARE. Here, our government spends- not hundred’s of millions, but hundred’s of BILLIONS. Take the boondoggle in Iraq, for example. Here we pay Bush/Cheney’s friends running corps like KBR $20 for a f---ing bagel! Every year our government awards thousands of no-bid contracts to their corporate friends with little or no accountability. Though, I agree the picture of the fat, lazy welfare mom sittin’ on her trailer-park porch all day while her kiddies roll around in flea infested dirt all day makes for a great target for hatred- the reality is, as far as budgets are concerned this problem pales in comparison to the amount of money our government wastes on millionaire CEO’s. Yet, you people keep cheering, rah, rah, rah. You should be equally outraged on both counts.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Freedommom: You must be 12 years old to keep missing the points being made above. First of all, YES- there are millions of acres of ’tillable land’ left, AND we are far from tilling it all. You are absolutely right on that. But to make the leap from there being enough land to feed everyone, and wretched human beings choosing to use it for that purpose is preposterous, naive and totally bizarre, even by your hero Jones standards.
Would you advocate the free and democratic United States confiscate all tillable lands and use them to feed all the unwanted children you would force women to have? Secondly, there are already millions of children in third world countries dying of starvation each and every year. Just because wealthy nations MAY have the ability to cultivate land and feed them HAS NOT MATTERED! They still starve! Maybe you should be ‘opening your eyes’ instead of reading Jonsey’s senseless propaganda.
Without some form of planned parenthood in these poorer nations the levels of human suffering and pain will continue to grow exponentially with the population. To simply hide ourselves in age-old religious indoctrination is not only immoral, it’s downright criminal. I am not advocating forced sterilization, simply a cohesive plan to deal with what is inevitably going to be a magnanimous problem in the future if not dealt with- and who is in the best position to begin framing solutions to this problem? I believe it is the UN, since no countries seem to be stepping up to the plate. If countries had, we would not have seen mass starvation in countries like Ethiopia ever since I can remember.
As far as the intelligence comments are concerned, I have not thought about that issue. I don’t think we can begin randomly telling the less intelligent they cannot reproduce on that basis alone. Maybe it would be more reasonable to INSIST parents demonstrate the ability to support more than, say two children before conceiving more.
In the case of octomom, personally I believe the medical doctor is at fault and SHOULD be forced to provide material support for those children, because he acted very irresponsibly. I don’t believe the doctors should be left off the hook. In fact, in some states husbands are made to provide support for children conceived while they are married, regardless of actual paternity. It is not a great stretch to assume that in lieu of an actual father, the doctor should be held liable because he ‘implanted’ the embryos versus providing the sperm himself. Surely legislation such as this would create a tremendous chilling effect on these shady fertility clinics operating all over America. I would love to see a study on how much these ‘fertility clinic babies’ cost the taxpayer’s yearly. It’s absurd.
reader Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I am with you on this PJ. (My only difference of opinion is that sometimes I think AJ doesn’t get the whole picture and is being used, himself. Or maybe he’s just throwing stuff out to see who blindly follows the wind and who really has common sense. IDK.)
Some of these religious cults have been inbreeding for a long time and have brought a lot of the genetic problems on the whole human race.
Take the Mormons, for instance….
“By the late 1990s, Tarby and his team had discovered fumarase deficiency was occurring in the greatest concentration in the world among the fundamentalist Mormon polygamists of northern Arizona and southern Utah.
Of even greater concern was the fact that the recessive gene that triggers the disease was rapidly spreading to thousands of individuals living in the community because of decades of inbreeding…
Doctors and family members interviewed by New Times say up to 20 children from families in the polygamist community are currently afflicted with the condition that requires full-time attention from caregivers. Victims suffer a range of symptoms, including severe epileptic seizures, inability to walk or even sit upright, severe speech impediments, failure to grow at a normal rate, and tragic physical deformities. “
4w578i Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
The global superstate wants to consolidate all power over your private parts, and PJ replies that Christians can’t plan families.
As polygamy neither has to be incestuous nor occultic, there is no strict, universal, Biblical language against it. In reality, the mainstream, Christian community is actually too liberal to grasp outright patriarchy, such that our tradition would have any baring, whatsoever, on your ranting about population control.
(Also, it is contradictory to say that inbreeding causes genetic problems for the rest of the world. Congenital problems are either gaining prevalence within a closed group, or they are outbreeding.)
Truth Now Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:54 am
The earth isn’t overpopulated, the cities are. When you fly over the country what do you see, more of, skyscrapers and freeways, or open fields and wildernesses. Come on this overpopulation thing is ridiculous. As far as energy issues and waste products, the solutions to these problems are being repressed by big monopolies. We gave $12,800,000,000,000.00 to save the banks, shucks how many wells and tractors, roads, and building would that of made for these people who are starving and need 10 kids, because only 5 will make it to take care of them in their old age. These people have dreams and desires, and love their brothers and sister, mothers and fathers, yet they get to see them die all the time, from preventable causes. They have a right to life just like anyone else does. If we have a right to life they deserve it even more because of the hell they have gone through. If their situations were better they wouldn’t need 10 kids to take care of them in old age.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Truth now, I agree with what you are saying. However, I think the difference goes to the heart of America and the other developed nations’ priorities. While our cities are overpopulated and cramped and there are definitely millions of acres available for food production, how can you have both? This argument is not logical. On one hand you are saying people should spread out over the land. (Not that this would EVER be possible because of the fundamental right to privately own property in most constitutional democracies across the globe). On the other hand, you are saying we should simply grow more food. Which is it? Do we allow farmland to be developed into subdivisions and cul-de-sacs or do we force people to live in overcrowded cities and devote more land use to agriculture? Obviously land is a finite resource and you cannot have both suburban development and growing agricultural production- unless you can produce more food by genetic alteration or some other yet undiscovered means of using less land to produce more food.
Once again, you have people relying on Jones for their opinions instead of thinking some of this stuff through. Though it may be easier for people to blame some unconfirmed boogie men in the form of this nefarious NWO, Illuminatti group for all your problems- maybe to justify this buildup of survival crap, who knows? Either way, understand that Jonsey operates much like any other personality-cultist. He takes a few kernels of truth and adds tons of conjecture and make-believe making great leaps and bounds with small truths- all in order to gather more sheep for the eventual slaughter.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Good work son!
Fill it up with everything you can!
They can’t stop “We the people”!
4w578i Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
MPW, in legal parlance, capitalization can be very important.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
This article is actually a really good resource on the U.N.s attitude towards population control.
They admit that they control TV programming! Wow.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Am I The Only One Paying Attention here. We have heard This All Before, This Is Nothing New, IDK Why We keep On Listening To This f--- Bag Alex “Fear Mongoring” Jones, Hes Full Of Propaganda HimSelf. I Mean I Belive What He says It All Makes Sence. But Its Funny How, To Hear What He Has To say To Have To Buy A f---in DVD HAHAHAHAHA. Wake Up You Stupid f---s This Ass Clown Is Making Millions Off This NWO s---. Think About It. Make Your Own Assumptions And Conclusion USE YOUR BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Thank you sir. Well put. That’s why I call him xelA, because he’s as bass-ackwards as a 3-dollar bill. Hate and fear-mongering 101 this is. You are most certainly NOT the only one paying attention here. I have been saying this for a long time. Jonsey is in this for the green stamps, my friend. Once the economy gets back on track and we get another illiterate redneck in the White House Jonsey and his crew will slither back down under their internet rocks with their sacks of cash and no one will give a flying s--- about the NWO or the Global Elite or the f---ing Aliens for that matter. Jonsey is a short-lived phenom, probably popular because so many people are getting their plasma’s repossessed at the moment and there’s nothing else to do but rant and rave.
This is exactly what happened in Europe leading up to WWII. When the economy went south, people sought a scapegoat in the Jewish people. If you disgruntled nut-jobs are the gun, Jonsey is the trigger-man. He’s simply pointing you towards this nefarious elitist bunch he created in his mind, painting them as the cause of all your troubles! Bull s---.
HEARD IT ALL BEFORE Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
wooooo my freind i thank you for seeing my point but i dont think mr.jones created this in his mind. this all very real. like you said before we are the gun and he is the finger on the trigger. he wants us to get all riled up about the NWO and try to do something about it before it goes down, he wants marshall law to happen so he can say i told you so. why do you think that one of his favorite topics. we have to have higher moral standards then these sick pigs that we call leaders.
gusto Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
wow, hows AJ fearmongering it seems his journalism is bit more on point than the rest, at this point there is no doubt in my mind that there is a NWO that wants to have complete controll over us up to killing us if so disire, if this idea is too scary and you cant bear to think that the air we breathe the water we drink and just aboutevery other thing that has passed through the elites possesion is poisoned. in few words AJ is the one that woke me up , and has a way of waking up the people in general, and for the record no one want s martial law, and alex jones had listeners way back to the clinton administration. and for those that don’t believe in the world elite and there cruel methods had better look at the history of any country of the world
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I agree there are cruel and sadistic rich people out there. No argument there. As for a highly organized bunch or muli-cultural billionaires spanning the globe? Yeah, thats were his ‘journalism’ is skewed about 180 degrees off course, friend. If you people could just take a second and think about what Jonsey is feeding you, you would quickly see that you cannot get a troop of Girl Scouts to play f---ing paddie whack for an hour without ripping each other’s hair out, let alone a group of international, nefarious rich-people-all with their own set of goals and language barriers- to work together.
Guy, if it was that easy Jonsey’s ‘global enslavement’ would have happened 2,000 years ago and we would all be wearin’ chains and crackin’ rocks or mining coal for the man! Truth is, these global rich people exist, not doubt. They are in it for themselves, though. They are fighting each other, too! Not always cooperating!
You imbeciles fall for this s--- every time. Jonsey lulls you into this state of mind by dangling small tidbits of truth in front of you. He’s manipulating you dude. As far as him not pushing for marshall law in this country! Wake the f--- up and put the coffee on, pal. Every other word out of his mouth is dripping with his neo-fascist wet-dreams of large scale military patrols and FEMA roundups in this country. Why? Because it makes him right! Think about it. If he keeps calling for fire, fire, fire and nothing happens, he looks like a f---ing idiot. This guy has been calling for this s--- for years and NOTHING HAS HAPPENED, except he has gotten wealthy selling survival crap to you nilly-wits. He has been ringing the bell of fear for years and all he has is some pictures of some f---ing drunk politicians staggering around a burning owl statue! That’s f---ing hilarious!
Go ahead, fall for the hype. Buy his survival s---. While your at it pick up a copy of chicken little. That’s better f---ing ‘journalism’ than Jonsey anyway. Plus, you might get lucky and figure out how to read, too! Asshat!
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Remember the Y2K hype? Lots of people made a lot of money off the fear that generated.
oh boy!! Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
If you dony like ale or stand for what he believes in then why are you here? Why not go the
“lets hug a tree” club or the”lets kill many people to save the planet” club? dont you want to chat with like minded people or are you just another zionist inbred royal swine pig who likes to spread dis info? I like in your comment above about WW2 when you said they blamed it on the jews. I got news for ya. A jew is a reference to a Semite and none of the people who died in WW2 were Semites. The freaks you refer to are Khazras. They worship the devil and condone f---ing children. They are Khazars who hijacked a religion because they were cowards and to afraid to fight. Funny though that Hitler was supported by the fake Khazar zionist “Jew” Rothschild.. oops I mean Red shield. Stalin was a Khazar zionist jew lenin was a Khazar zionist jew Communisim was created by the zionist so called “jews” the Belosevics… And just so you know , I KNOW Jesus was not a “Jew”. Some of us (although few) know the difference between the tribe of Judah and the city of Judea. yea this is the same commenter “man up” and FYI you could never set me straight on anything. I could pick your arguments apart any day. From your fake ass religion and corrupt history to your useless arguments on over population. I’ll ask the same question Alex asks about fools like you :your mommy didn’t breast feed you right”? But i’ll bet she ……. well I wont go there. Go f--- YOUR SELF
Go Queenslander Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:15 am
What I can’t stand Oh boy is people who don’t understand that the “eliteists” today started stuffing up the true message of Christianity straight after Christ came. And it is the same eliteists today who have created a new religion (spiritualism – satan worhsipping) and have denied Christianity now (the altered sadistic Christian message which their forbearers created way back when) and so give the true message of Christianity a bad name. So they are still distracting the world from Jesus of Nazareth, the true Savior and so are attaining their goal set by their master Luicifer.
There is only one goal by these people, and that is to distract all of mankind from Jesus of Nazareth. Not the Jesus illustrated in the message given by the Catholic church, with all of its false saints. If you all prize your freedom, the secret is to follow the true Christ. Find him and you find your freedom. Search for him and you will find him. For our physical bodies will fade one day, this life was always meant to end, and our spiritual life, the life where we experience true freedom if we have followed his teachings, will continue.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
…Oh, I can’t make the jump between ‘killing as many people as possible’ and ’saving the planet’. Not sure where you’re going with that one. I know all you self-important so-called ‘Christians’ can recite your twisted notions of history and make very big leaps of logic in the process. So, how is ‘family planning’ killing people? Not sure about that one. I would say, the opposite of family planning in third world countries leads to involuntary starvation and horrible death. Don’t know about you, but I would rather not be born, than be born and starve to death several months later. Why is this such a hard concept for you morons to grasp? Family planning, disease and war-mongering is what’s keeping the earths population from growing exponentially. Without these social problems and strong family-planning programs the earth’s poplulation could explode, doubling or tripling in 30 years. If this were to happen we would have tremendous and horrific problems, not to mention the least of which being widespread social unrest because of lopsided global resource distribution
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Oh boy: You make this s--- way too easy, pal. First off, why do you people always quote Jones? Is it because you can’t come up with anything original on your own? Or is it because he’s your super-hero and, like when batman played every day on t.v. you ran around the playground yelling, smack, pow, bang, boom! Is Jonsey boy bringing up some yet unresolved psycho-sexual mommy/daddy issues for ya? Is Jonsey boy an emotional surrogate for daddy? Are you sad that he is making love to mommy in a way you cannot? Is that the real reason for the display of hero worship, or am I incorrect? Are you wearing SUPER-HERO JONES UNDEROOS right now?
Why don’t I hang around like-minded people like myself? Sometimes I do. But, unlike you, I am not afraid to have a debate with people of opposing minds. I like the way you people ‘win’ your arguments by using your sick, twisted sexual deviance. But as recipients of same you suddenly become morally outraged? You don’t win an intellectual debate by displays of your vile sex-fantasies. Yeah, that simply shows your level of intellect- and just how indefensible your opinions are. Like Jones, you are a sick and twisted lot, incapable of thinking on your own. Instead you rely on morally bankrupt people like Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Rielly, Jones, etc for your ‘ditto-head’ opinions. Are you too dumb, or just too lazy to think for yourselves? Just curious. If it’s the former, then nothing can be done. Too lazy? Now you’re just pathetic.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Certainly there is nothing wrong with ‘family planning’ in as much as parents deciding how many children they can care for. Responsibility comes with freedom of choice, it’s that simple. There is no separating the two. This concept creates a difficult catch-22 for free societies. For example, should single women like ‘octomom’ be allowed to have 8 children at a time? Should society tolerate this behavior along with bearing the burden of support, or is it reasonable to expect a modicum of self-control?
As far as wealthy corporations go. They thrive on vast numbers of poor, because poor people will work for food, care little about ‘human’ rights and likely will not rise up and form unions or demand fair treatment in the form of health care or vacations, making them as disposable as the machinery itself. (Sounds more like a wet-dream for Jonsey’s Rockefeller’s). It’s no secret that this is why American manufacturing decided to pull up stakes and re-invent itself in a closed society like China.
This subject is probably the most complex social issue facing the world today. How does a free and democratic society tackle the issue of family planning? One would have to be a fool not to see what our society would look like if every woman sought fertility treatments and became ‘octomoms’, which ostensibly is every mother’s right to do so. Conversely, how does legislation safeguard society against impoverished children and not trample on civil rights in the process? Once society begins to legislate in this manner, it becomes a slippery slope that may end in forced sterilization, etc.
Bottom line. I think one can see how this issue is not as simple as Maessen makes it out to be. Certainly in a shrinking world governments need to find a balance whereby resources are plentiful, with the goal of zero starvation- and maintain a woman’s God given right to pro-create.
gusto Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
society has no say in peoples family your responsable for your own family and i think octomon should have her children but no one save her family should be inclined to care for them. in other words get rid of the the welfare state and family planning is not a problem
cheeseburger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Naw, you’re way off, pal. That’s where you are wrong, wrong, wrong! It isn’t the childs fault that the mother is such a f---ing screwball. No way do we stop feeding hungry children. Instead, we must legislate family planning. It must be fair and balanced, with checks-and-balances AND oversight so it’s fair. But personally, letting children starve to death is not the mark of a civilized society.
Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Dear Cheese Burger, Mo ther does not always find You to be right ….
but, at least Your Heart chokra is glowing in Greens, and, Golds, like it should be !
If You Error, Error On The Side Of Love : )
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
not sure what that all means, but thanks….I think…
May 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
largest scale holocaust
sold as
rescue operation
does that sound familiar?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
uh, this article was not written by Alex! Don`t kill the messenger!!!
Its so easy to see who really is a sheep.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
this article is exactly correct- down with globalists
May 8th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
do they eat cheeseburgers in the cia-facility you’re writing from?
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Naw, we prefer hot dogs… REALLY HOT….DOGS…
Did ol’ Jonsey boy pay you to pay me that compliment? Cuz I”S is glowin’ now!
So, anyone who disagrees with the whole NWO conspiracy is a cia agent? Why not a super-secret alien hunter? Not that I could admit we exist…officially that is…Gotta go, my tinfoil’s comin’ off!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
hey thor 007 you are the one that is a lamb not a sheep dumb ass. and yes he may not have written the article but he supports all these writers. they take the same info and add some sprinkles to it and says its “ground Breaking” or ” leaked info” its the same song by sung by a different singer ya dig. you want real patriot that got killed for really exposing elite scum look up WILLIAM COOPER. if alex jones was really about exposing and truth telling his ass would have been grass after WACO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
http://chatroll.com/infowars
May 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Population control is absolutely necessary. You may like the idea of being surrounded by idiots, but I, personally, would love to have 100 square miles all to myself, one day.
dues ex organica Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
if you beleive in pop. reduction so much then lead by example buddy, jump off a bridge…
…or you want the gov’t to orderly exterminate the undesirables?
You make me sick you scum bag. You really think the elites are going to let you live free on 100 sq. miles of land? Are you that stupid? Sure, just keep drinking the fluoride and licking your master’s boots. You sick freak.
Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
dues ex human
Oh You will,
there is PLENTY of space left on the planes of reversal where HEARTLESS people like You will all be going soon enough
Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
That post was ment for chaazrc NOT dues ex….
SO SORRY dues ! YOUR response was AWESOME
May 8th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
One word, TERRITORIAL.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Alex wants his mind, I want land.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
xelA has my mind now, so you can have all my land…
May 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Hey guys, I’m gonna write a song on population-related issues!
“We’re too many peeeopuuuuuuuuuuuuuulll!
If only we had laaaaws to stooop us from maaaakiiing chiiildren
We’re too many peeeopuuuuuuuuuuuuuulll!”
Okay that didn’t go well.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
The UN no longer means United Nations, but United Nazi-ons.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
They may have found the quick way to population reduction:
H1N1. Also known as Swine Flu, Mexican Flu.
Classical switch and bait scenario: Present a threat (flu), present a cure (Aseltovir, Tamiflu, vaccines, et al.), split the population into two groups, the ’saves’ and the ‘nosaves’, jab one group with the cure, jab the other group with the cure with something extra added: a chemical sterilizing agent.
Hopefully this scenario is just the gist of a bad dream, but be prepared to look at things from different angles when the stakes are high.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Hey cheeseburger brain, have you ever watched any of “jonesy’s” movies????????? He says to BURN/COPY them and pass them out to your friends!!!!!!!! Last time i checked anyone who was out for a profit would never condone piracy! Your an idiot just so you know “jonesy” has been makin movies since 9/11. But wait i thought you said he is making money of us and the recession? Know what your talking about before making a complete ass of yourself for everyone on the web to see. Oh wait you must be used to it.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Ok, dips---. Many people distribute ‘documentaries’ in order to gain popularity. Jonsey is a very smart business man who is probably being helped along by the very ones he is rallying against. Notice, your hero Jonsey advocates all this ‘resistance’ against authority, but to date has not taken any real steps against those in legal authority over him. Doesn’t that make you wonder? He would like you to step up and do his bidding for him- bringing him media attention, while he remains in a posh studio raking in millions from his message of hate and fear. So, who’s the ‘ass’ again on this website? I’d say you under the circumstances! f---ing idiot rednecks from Texas. Mush-braindedness must be a disease down there.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
oh and you people need to learn how to spell! If your so intelligent right??? hey guess what that red squiggly line under your words means something.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Maybe you’re the one who can’t spell. Did you run spellcheck on all the posts?
May 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
If everyone has three,
how many will there be?
If everyone has three,
too many will there be!
Already do we hear about the dying of the sea.
By 2050 there will be no fish for you or me,
and dead will be the ocean from sea to shining sea.
Do you suppose those popes were right?
They said to procreate,
and procreate and procreate,
and mate and mate and mate?
Or does it seem more reasonable,
responsible and sane,
that somewhere we must stop
this population increase train?
There must be some last number
which the planet will sustain.
So for my daughter’s sake,
and you children’s sake as well,
let’s stop this population train,
before the Earth’s a hell.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I find it interesting that evolutionary theory makes the winners out to be the ones who perpetuate the most DNA, but that most of the adherants practice having no offspring.
If the only thing in this life is to perpetuate the most DNA as possible, why go against nature?
If we’re supposed to be “wired” to perpetuate the most DNA, wouldn’t homosexual behaviour been weeded out millions of years ago, since it doesn’t produce viable offspring?
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
That is a very good point. Never considered that. Maybe homosexuality is due to environmental conditions versus DNA? I’ve heard reports about certain hormones present in the food supply, pesticides, prescription drugs diluted in public drinking water as potential causes. I know hormones can cause male breast growth, for example so it’s not a great leap of logic.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
…or maybe it’s Mendelian in nature. This is genetic traits that present randomly in greater numbers according to ethnicity.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Well just remember there’s the red list and the blue list and then there’s the yellow list. Which one are you on? They should test people’s mental capacity to have kids. If you don’t pass, they sterilize you immediately.
Too many people doing whatever they want. What about the females? All the females who are able to bear children are usually killed in a conflict. But where does that leave the men? Are all the men going to be left on this earth so there will be nothing but homosexuals left to f--- each other in the ass?
There’s your population control right there.
If it were up to me, I’d have been castrating huge numbers of men through out this entire planet. If they can kill females of child-bearing ages, then they should be able to get rid of the men, too.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Don’t you think that’s a little extreme? I thought you people were against Jonseys’ militarization of society.
Hawk8414 Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
No, I don’t think its extreme.I think it’s necessary.Who says that the men have to right to father more children when they can’t even take care of what they already have?
If the WHO were going to implement a eugenics program, then it should start with the men being fixed just like the women need to be fixed,especially if they are not intelligent or have mental or physical problems. You know as well as I do that no man in his right mind would give up his sex life. But if he didn’t have to so long as he didn’t father any more children or even wanted to father any children,then what’s the difference between sterilizing the women and the men?
It’s more humane in the long run. They did it back during the Depression when there were people who were considered mentally ill and the state did perform eugenics on those people.
Don’t believe me, look it up, google it. They did it in NC, to be sure, there was a news story about it last yr.
If they bitch and moan about cats and dogs over populating and they want you to spay or neuter your pets, then why shouldn’t they fix women and men?
That octomom should have been fixed before she even got pregnant, she’s mental anyway. I ‘m surprised you cannot see it.
And now she wants a pet, they have enough to deal with. People cannot feed themselves as it is.
It’s a wonder the Catholic Church has not supported the eugenics movement in Africa all over the entire continent. They are breeding like rabbits, but no, the WHO gives those poor people smallpox vaccines and then they get sick and die anyway. And they call this humane treatment.
I support sterilizing the entire population if it will control the whole mess in general. The CIA and these other covert groups will go into a country and tell their leaders to get their populations under control. and if they don’t, they get sanctions and s---. Then if it still doesn’t work, they will go into that country and say,”Look, here’s your goddamned population control. It’s not working and since you don’t have the balls to fix your own problems, you get a civil war becuz of your stupidity.” That’s why they have civil wars, its manipulated to kill off large numbers of females who are of child-bearing age. That’s the real reason why Nicaragua happened like it did.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Group selection? Maybe, homosexuals contributed to the likelihood that other relatives would produce and rear offspring successfully — maiden (lesbian) aunts, and homosexual uncles helping to rear children might convey some overall adaptive advantage, making up in a sense for the ’sin’ of not procreating. Even Darwin was open to the idea of group selection in some form.
Yes, why do believers in evolution practice responsible reproduction — because we are the intelligent ones.
And yes, unfortuantely, the ignorant masses (Catholic, Protestant, Muslim etc.) continue to multiply like rabbits. It is a tragedy wih only one likely tragic ending.
freedommom Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Okay … let’s see … intelligent people …
…can do math down several generations to calculate population replacement levels. E.g. the Western Europeans can’t do math, obviously since they have virtually no replacements to support their marxist systems. In my husband’s family, his dad was one of six. In three generations, because of death and infertility, they will not be at replacement rate for that original family of eight. Do your own family and you’ll see how it works.
… know that evolution is not sustainable biochemically (read Behe)
May 8th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
OK, first off, “daveb”, gay guy above who’s so repressed he thinks science is on his side, has no idea what he’s talking about, unless he’s an agent, and his retarded views are justified by trying to mess the rest of us up. Maybe they’re everywhere! Muhahaha! Or else your fans, AJ have permeated every hole in the known universe and only the insane ones decided to write you back.
Sad. Personally, it’s a$$holes like me that make this site not work safe, and that’s sad. You should find an algorithm that scrambles the known english swear words. Not hard to find. Don’t even think about bit@$ING.
The UN, Eugenics, and Mass Media. The 3 things I talk about on a date.
daveb Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Yeah, I am an agent — a gay agent.
You people are as bad as the “sheeple” you look down upon. You haven’t woken up. You are merely in another dream.
Yes, overpopulation is a real problem as is the exploitation of the Earth in general.
Try to wake up for real.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Look, if the UN says there are too many people in the world – and if they are right, then just come out and say it. Serious, why all this sneaky s---.
Even Alex Jones says, we are not overpopulating the earth now, but soon we will be. The answer is to tell the truth and industrialize and educate nations, then population will go down.
Put this time and effort in a space program, so we can populate other planets.
If Obama would come out and be up front with people about overpopulation, people would totally listen. If the goverment can use media and scare tatics for everything else, like AIDS and so on, they can just be up front about overpopulation. Scare people into not having kids.
But then again, there are always two sides to the story:
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2289.html
Even then, if people don’t listen, don’t give welfare families financial incentives to have 10 kids.
It’s simple, we all have a right to live – but most people agree s--- is too overcrowded.
It’s a simple solution- f---ING EDUCATE PEOPLE. As the stats go, education means lower population.
The goverment is most of the problem, they make it hard for kids to get a good education, but on the flip side, they reward families on welfare to have 10 kids, by putting them in free housing and giving them tax breaks.
Marcus Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:39 am
“education means lower population.”
Agreed. 100% but its cheaper to brainwash everyone via mass media.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
well put cappy
May 9th, 2009 at 2:36 am
Great article. But I do not have a problem with population control. There are too many people (if you live in or near a city). Of course, I do have a problem with media and the other people deciding all this. Personal choice still has meaning to me, not manufacturing consent or beliefs.
Carla H Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Marcus-
I agree with you.
I have noticed though, that the people who should have more children, often do not. And those who are awful parents, they are the ones who have 4-6 kids.
I think any responsibel person would think twice before having a large family.
freedommom Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
B*Lsh*t, Carla. You’re not that great, Honey. How many kids do YOU have, and are you raising them yourself, or do you abandon them all day long to a system???
Specter Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Start with yourself then dingus.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:38 am
its not just overcrowded, it kills me to see our trees cut down to make way for more houses and businesses. clear cutting everything away. pave the earth? f--- that s---.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:45 am
homosexuality cures human population growth. zero population growth alone will help.
I can see less than 2 billion people on earth in the next 50 years. For me this is planet for everything not just people. I would prefer a much lower population (of wage slaves and religious zealots) anyway. A technological, highly educated society does not need many people.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Testing, 1, 2, 3 – - -
This is my 3rd post to this forum and are we now at 100% censorship, you j-holes?
Don’t you just love the forum censors, kind of reminds one of being “molested” by a pervert that can’t resist. They just gotta reach out and touch someone’s post. What a bunch of really sick, pathetic bastards, when they censor the truth for their warped agenda.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Censorship is word eugenics.
Here’s all the proof we need.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I SERIOUSLY doubt they would false-flag murder their own reptilian hybrid puppets… not at this point in the agenda anyways.
Roaddog… As peaceful warriors in this Information rEVOLution, we would be wise not to support such violent extremism. That mentality only furthers their pathetic attempts to demonize us.
Besides, such a hateful, drastic action would also further their overall agenda of fearmongering their way into a one-world dictatorship.
I know that 99% of the people in this Freedom Movement are completely NON-VIOLENT.
I certainly am. If you really weigh out our options, that is the healthiest and smartest approach to victory… and outsmarting “them” is the ONLY way we will win this damn thing!!!
Stay strong and keep pushing the Information Revolution!
Hand out flyers and/or DVD copies!!
Load up on weapons/ammo and survival supplies!!!(Given human nature,thats really
just common sense.)
!!!DTTNWO!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
How kind and generous the censors are to allow only my complaints of being censored on the forum.
All the juicy info about how plastics emissions in our food air, along with designer GMO’s and other chemicals GETS CENSORED. The crap we are eating, breathing, absorbing through our skin, etc., IS DESIGNED TO SHUT DOWN MALE GONADS and if it happens in utero, or when you are growing up, there’s a good chance you will end up gay. The crap alters brain development and sexual orientation! It’s part of a Global Eugenics program and of course the gays that know about it and promote it, look at all those young boys and dream of them all as potential gay, sexual partners and so they see nothignwrong with playing with everyone’s hormones.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Family planning is the duty of the patriarch, not the feminists.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Perhaps those persons who would like to see population control begin to accelerate could begin such an acceleration by being the first to step up to the plate and practice what they preach.
UN globalist scum should be the FIRST ones to stop reproducing. They should be the FIRST ones
to die!
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
yeah, they are so easily identified.
May 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Tne UN’s ability to decide who lives could justifiably be based on planetary concerns, but when we get into some people are too stupid, too black too asian, to indian, to mexican to poor, to outspoken, someone who will not comply with whatever the NWO commands will be KILLED. Even political reasons, relgious, moral and cultural reasons will be thrown in, but to state that they do this to save the planet is pure horse dung. They want to be the ones who live and if innocent people have to die to meet this NWO goal then you CAN REST ASSURED THAT THEY WILL KILL YOU AND THEN SAY IT WAS LEGAL TO DO SO> BE CAREFUL WHAT AUTHORITY YOU AGREE TO GIVE THEM BECAUSE IF YOU UTTER A SINGLE complaint then you too will be beheaded and your body burned into ashes and smoke.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
good point
May 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
ok you seem to know about farm life great. third world countries you obviously know little about. the women do not have a million kids because they want too, with that your slightly right. they may not want so many children but they NEED them. When you put a limit on everything else what is the one resource humans can provide? more humans, more hands to work and help the survival of the family. If you look at statistics you see that these third world countries have the highest fertility rates but they also have the highest infant mortality rates. They pump out as many kids as they can because you never know how long the ones you have will survive. its not that hard to see.
Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Thank You Carla Heart
You may remain here on My Earth.
Mo ther
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
ok so let em starve? it’s God’s problem?
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
… Carla H that is…
May 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
its ridiculous for anyone to agree with population control like every species in existance its a natural process. for us to impeed with nature is disastrous. i agree with man up. the only natural way to control the population is for you control freaks to take one for the rest of us ignorant people who are doomed to die of over population and just off yourselves.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
test
May 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Well, its official, My lovely post explaining the cause of fragmentation ( over population) from The Mo ther’s point of view, got deleeted
So I guess we cant say the words” Mo ther,” or “tal mud.”
hmmmmmm???
Jason Burm ass must be worken the cencorship button ?
May 9th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Yeah, yeah, yeah, We all know what Your “counciousness,” has had to say, millions of times,
but, what, The Mo ther of Everything, wants to know, is what does Your HEART have to say ??
Havent got one?
Well F ya than, cause HEARTLESSNESS is THE worst problem here on Earth, so, grow a f-ing HEART, or, LEAVE this planet with the rest of the HEARTLESS essence that will be going to the plans of reversal, with the devil, here in a very short time.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
heartlessness is watching children starve to death because religious nutjobs like you refuse to face facts. Grow a brain.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
…edjoy74, I meant…
May 9th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
It is TERRIFYING for a Mo ther to read this thread and find out how MANY of You HORRABLE people have bought the old “over population” *** program.
YOU ARE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO….FEED !!!!!!!! THE EUGENICS PROGRAMS !!!!
“GOD OF LOVE,” SEES YOUR EVIL INTENT, AND, KNOWS YOU ALL FOR YOUR HEARTLESSNESS !!!
YOU ARE THE ….VERY !!!!! “PEOPLE,”
WHO HAVE BEEN DIS IMPOWERING …HIM….
AND IMPOWERING THE DEVIL !!!!
ALL OF THIS TIME, HERE ON EARTH, AND, ELSEWHERE !
cheeseburger Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
you do da voodoo dat yoodoo!