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  • Tighter border hurts economy, officials say

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    Betsy Z. Russell
    The Spokesman-Review
    July 19, 2009

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    BOISE – Officials and experts from the United States and Canada say a U.S. border policy driven by concerns about terrorism and problems at the Mexico border is hurting Pacific Northwest communities.

    “We’ve got a much more open border there, and we’ve got a real intense personal and commercial relationship,” said Idaho Rep. George Eskridge, R-Dover, whose district borders Canada in Boundary County. “We’re trying to decide what to do with the Canadian border based on what we do with the Mexican border. I think that’s wrong, because we’ve got different problems.”

    About 500 officials, experts and business people from the U.S. and Canada gathered for the annual meeting of the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region to discuss cross-border economic issues, including energy, agriculture and economic development. There was lots of talk about the impact of border policy changes in the U.S. since the 2001 terrorist attacks.

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    51 Responses to “Tighter border hurts economy, officials say”

    1. russ Says:

      twenty third!

      EU-Lex Reply:

      You still have the Constitution-free zone, you can search-charge-arrest anyone there too you don’t have to check the border, have a rest then take them out 100 miles from the border.

      jimshores Reply:

      Russ, I am going to turn you in to the EPA for habitually waisting electricity. By the way, you are on the wrong site.

      jimshores Reply:

      I mean wasting electicity, sorry.

      Chad and some of his kin Reply:

      Jim, “waisting” is a perfectly fine word – in the sense that a “tighter border” is kinda like drawing a belt around our waists a little too tight for comfort! (while they’re at it, maybe they’re putting a rope around our necks, too)…With all the talk now going around about the upcoming, pre-planned, damm-the-facts, it must proceed no matter what “swine flu pandemic” we have to wonder out loud how much of an effect this “pandemic” is going to have on cross-border economic activity, or, if the “pandemic” will need to be put on hold, or “pause”, (or the belt loosened just a notch instead of tightened) because it will kinda wreck ANY chances of an “economic recovery” that is – we are being assured – “just around the corner”(!) What’s the message here to us consumers – “spend like there is going to be no tomorrow, because there won’t be??? Let’s see here (we’re just musing) how will a “Pandemic” affect “consumer sentiment” about the economy?

      Newspeak Reply:

      DHS spreading hate! NY Times article!

      Racist Web Posts Traced to Homeland Security:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07......html?_r=4

      Tim Reply:

      LaRouche Previews August 1 Webcast: Installing An Anti-British-Imperialist World Economy

      July 16, 2009 (LPAC)– On Saturday August 1, 2009, at 1 pm Eastern Time, Lyndon LaRouche will address a world audience, and leading collaborators within the United States, in an international webcast. In a paper currently under preparation on “The Science of Physical Economy,” LaRouche directly previews the topics on which he will concentrate during that presentation.

      “The world now hovers at the brink of a long dark age of absolute despair. Only the sudden and thorough scrapping of the monetary systems which have reigned over the world since the death of President Franklin Roosevelt, could provide humanity today an escape from a New Dark Age whose character would bring the entire planet rather quickly from a level of about 6.7 billions individuals, to probably something near the goals, of no more than two billions, demanded from pro-genocidalists such as the late Bertrand Russell and the sheer evil of the World Wildlife Fund of Prince Philip and the now deceased Prince Bernhard.

      “While it is necessary to continue the use of money as a medium of exchange within the microcosms of the social process of economy, any useful definitions of the role of money must abandon those old, systemically failed, definitions, which have been formerly taught in schools and universities, and as presently official accounting practice; there must be sudden and sweeping installation of a new form of an anti-British-imperialist world economy, that among cooperating, perfectly sovereign nation-states. That urgently needed change, will come into existence on the battleground once occupied by the preceding reign of the now hopelessly failed existing nation-states of the former monetary systems.

      “However, this urgently needed change were likely to occur, only if an inner circle of professional economic competence is created now, from among relevant leading circle among some key nations.

      “For this purpose, the preliminary step of urgently needed education to be taken immediately, is to present an updated presentation of that ‘Triple Curve’ imagery which I first published in the official, 1996 announcement of my candidacy for that year’s Democratic Presidential nomination. The current update of that ‘Triple Curve’ will be presented in two public events, one prior to my August 1, 2009 international webcast, and the second during that webcast. The implications of that update, which will have been presented publicly prior to those events, are to be assumed in what is written here.

      “The crucial change might appear to some as minimal. I have proposed, simply enough, to replace the existing world monetary system, as if by turning on a dime, by a fixed-exchange-rate alliance among a set of what shall be, respectively, perfectly sovereign nation-state republics. This shall be accomplished by elementary methods of reorganization in bankruptcy….”

      LaRouche’s webcast will be aired live on http://www.larouchepac.com

    2. Alpengeist Says:

      Seems like a sideshow to saying: “We need open borders, i.e. North American Union.”

      Investigate 911 and there wouldn’t be any border issues….

      ALL OF YOU YES YOU LISTEN Reply:

      BUILD THAT WALL AND DEPORT THEM ALL!!

      NO sideshow, when illegal aliens are murdering, raping, robbing, and assaulting Americans of ALL races!!

      When it happens to you, and it will, will you still call it a sideshow?

      AGAIN!! FOLKS!! BUILD THAT WALL AND DEPORT THEM ALL!

    3. Godzilla Says:

      The news we get down here in So Cal is that they are going to start searching vehicles entering Messico and that the average inspection will take about 8 seconds and that that will cause a 45 minute delay in crossing into the turd world. So be it. I say take a half friggin’ hour searching each vehicle so it will become crystal clear that the weapons used by the drug lords are not coming from gun show patrons and are undoubtably coming from European arms dealers and the US government itself.
      Anyone stupid enough to go to Messico needs to sit in a long line and think about there decision to do so.

      jimshores Reply:

      Zilla, Write on, bro.

    4. brainy smurf Says:

      I have no comment at this time.

    5. Timothy Leary Says:

      What do these people smoke to make them come up with this
      crap ? It darnded sure isn’t any regular pot or hash.

    6. jonnyrottin Says:

      news flash”Tighter border bad for economy but safer”read all about it!!!!

    7. roaddog Says:

      I’m wondering when they’re gonna stop the bullshit brainwashing and just throw the nau in the publics face and let the shit begin.

    8. wastelandsoldier Says:

      Yeah it hurt the drug dealer economy.

    9. Tom Says:

      They want documented workers and amnesty; because then the new workers can be places as collateral on the national debt…. perfect! Same as prison population being used as cheap labor and as collateral on debt.

    10. cooper Says:

      Yea! In other words, “Bring those walls down!” Bring in the NAU with our new currency!

    11. cooper Says:

      Outwardly, it looks like we still have the US Constitution operating within our government. But, the global elite including Obama and his administration believe our Constitution is outdated in that our soverignity needs to be broken so that the NWO can operate worldwide. Instead of coming out and telling us what they are doing, they are eroding our national soverignity piece by piece, eroding from within without firing a shot. This article is a fine example.

    12. KDUBBLL Says:

      tighter borders=higher paying jobs

    13. JA Says:

      Don’t fall for the open borders game, or else the North American Union will be here in no time.

    14. jjgh Says:

      What economy??

    15. Censored by Napolitano Says:

      It seams as though here in arizona now that the immigrants have somewhat started to return.There are many more openings and business oppurtunities cleaning rich peoples houses in scottsdale.

    16. Gary Says:

      This has got to be comedy, right? Satire? They have left the borders wide open for the nearly eight years since 9/11. WHAT “security” are they talking about? LOL. The collapsing economy is the deliberate work of the international banking cartel that owns the Federal Reserve. If border security has anything to do with it, it is the LACK of border security that is responsible for the flooding of our country with cheap, poisonous goods from China that are being shipped up through Mexico via the NAFTA Superhighway.

    17. SouthernState Says:

      While on a trip to Niagara Falls my Wife and I were told by Border Patrol that the new laws were td to protect our Country from terrorist, I laughed and said “You got to be joking! if thats the reason then why aren’t our borders being secured? If americans believe that they deserve to ruled by a Tyrant.” next he asked for some ID then proceeded to ask a million questions such as do I own any weapons, am I part of a movement to overthrow the US government, then he stated he seen that I had explosives training while serving in the military…..which I stated my training with explosive was to defend my Country against all enemies foreign or domestic and that was honorably discharged and then served 10 yrs in the National Guard, was then asked if I was aware if there were any warrants out for my arrest, which I stated, absolutely not I am a God fearing law abiding citizen. What blew me away was he was able to pull up my military service record in just a few minutes. I couldn’t believe how they reacted an treated us like we were criminals and had no right to be upset. Americans really need to pull their heads out of the sand and start looking at what is going on here…..this is really beginning to become a bit scary. God help us if they pull this off!

      Gerri Reply:

      First off…THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY THROUGH YOUR HONORABLE SERVICE! AGAIN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU…

      I must shamefully admit that I have a family member that is a Customs agent and we got into a huge “discussion” that left us not speaking to each other for the past year…over your exact points…

      These Customs agents have been “brainwashed” into believing they are the “first line of our National Defense” and therefore their power is “ABSOLUTE”…as my family member stated…

      I must admit I do understand the concept of protecting our Country and asking questions to validate a persons intentions for entering our Country…this makes sense…but the fact that they can at the “click of a mouse” know everything about a person is truly too dangerous for “peace officers” to have their fingertips… Our right to privacy is all but gone…

      The “100 Mile Constitution Free Zone” is another example of this bizzare and corrupt “thinking”…Their are no exceptions in our Constitution that say that it doesn’t apply everywhere within our Borders…

      I doubt Americans will wake up before it’s too late…the Military Industrial Media Corporations have to be taken back…

    18. Neocon Narc Says:

      And the Mexican Invasion begins!!!

      What about the Mexican drug wars??Blame guns sales to Americans.
      What about the pandemic diseases??Force compulsary vaccinations.
      What about the Constitution and our inalienable rights???100 mile no constitution zone.

      Sounds like the problem is Americans and the Constitution NOT the economy.
      If it was the economy you would keep our jobs in America.
      It is time to stop buying from anywhere or anyone other than a U.S. citizen.

      This is like the old argument that guns kill people.
      Jobs leaving the U.S. kills Americans.
      They just want to be able to sell more Wal-Mart poison to us.
      Open up the port and let them flood our country with illegal products is a disaster waiting to happen.

    19. The Mexican Says:

      It was rightfully our land before you scum bags came here and stole it from us and the native american people….ha ha ha looks like the british have taken your government back and you dumbasses aren’t even smart enough to see it…all hail the queen! SCUM GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT! YOUR LAND!!!!

      danomatic Reply:

      Tell that to the Dene, southern boy. Scalping time…

      Neocon Narc Reply:

      If your gonna be a man. Come take it like a man instead of crying like a woman!!!
      Remember the Alamo America!!!

      Ten Megaton Reply:

      Kiss my Gringo ass

      justwondering Reply:

      The Mexican Says:
      July 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

      It was rightfully our land before you scum bags came here and stole it from us and the native american people….ha ha ha looks like the british have taken your government back and you dumbasses aren’t even smart enough to see it…all hail the queen! SCUM GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT! YOUR LAND!!!!

      I can’t go anywhere because I was born and raised here. GET OVER IT!!!!!! You go home!!!!!!!

    20. fleshy ass invader Says:

      Tranquilo paisano,todos estamos en esta gran nacion y necesitamos trabajar para asegurar el futuro de la cual NO SEA RACISTA AMIGO

      justwondering Reply:

      Speak English; this is America!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    21. NOLA Says:

      If Jews were swarming over our borders, this site would be up in arms. Lack of border enforcement is the NWO at work.

    22. Jaro Says:

      Coming… One World Currency
      Government hijacked by elitist. Ron Paul predicts fall of US dollar, & one world currency by 2012
      Wow on Glen Beck … Ron Paul actually tells him we will see a world central bank by 2012.

      http://posmedprod.webs.com/worldcentralbank.htm

    23. golddigger Says:

      we do not need the mexicans bringing there truckes into this country, its tuff enough trying to make a living driving a truck with out them coming in and cutting the rates even more for our american drivers, dodnt have a proublim with the ones to the north for there laws are better and there trucks are safe but the ones 2 the south have not good laws and trucks do not meet DOT standards to hell with nafta and keep the mexican trucks off our roads

    24. Dan Says:

      Securing our borders and blocking amnesty is the major goal of NUMBERSUSA.COM

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      Guy Reply:

      We Kneed real Pateriots with real resources now!before this youth corp is put in to place green peace so called enforcement.
      I have a good freind who works at a co.op Electric Grid Supply co who Knows that, when they install upgrade water heatr’s and any upgrade’s they are to install sensor ready data control pc chip boxes to be ready for GPS Recive and transmissions. the Tech is alragy here and ready to go. but there is hope until Big Bro Commie Gov

    25. Crito Says:

      If I were a terrorist with a nuke I’d just ship it across the border. The fascist police state only prevents people form moving freely.

    26. jimshores Says:

      Since people in the northwest grow their own weed they don’t need anything from Mexico. We in Texas stopped buying their bogus bud due to terrible quality and we don’t need anymore thieves or replacement workers. They have replaced enough.

    27. jimshores Says:

      Get your weak-ass commercials off this site.

    28. John Brown Says:

      Immigration discussion from north of the border can be read here: http://linkthe.com/2009/07/16/.....on-kenney/

    29. deathbyrevolt Says:

      Such lies. A tight border and removal of all the illegals would wipe out employment along with shutting down NAFTA and CAFTA.

    30. joe Says:

      You think in other countries they just let undocumented people flood in so companies can make money? NO! That’s what it’s about. (and getting votes) It’s about migrant workers, guest workers, and under the table type stuff.
      “Tax free baby and no fair wages! Increase the profit margin to boost the economy.”
      Who believes this^?

    31. justwondering Says:

      I’m sure if we have a North American Union, we will still have to have a Passport or a CHIP in our driver’s license. Otherwise, how would “they” keep track of every one of us? I don’t see the point in this NAU thing.

    32. John Brown Says:

      How will the ICE agents breaking the laws they are supposed to uphold help our economy?
      http://linkthe.com/2009/07/22/.....ion-raids/

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    36. unohoo Says:

      Simply put . . . I support immigration reform, as long as the minorities continue to fight for free pie, at some one else’s expense. when the war between minorities is over, the real Americans, who built the country with blood, sweat and tears should dig mass graves and bulldoze what remains of their dead. Then those that take liberty against our freedoms we enjoy will be gone . . . then white construction workers, and chastised white men in the western world can get back to business.