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  • Top Source Says Bush To Strike Iran By August

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    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Tuesday, May 27, 2008

    The Bush administration is planning to carry out air strikes against Iran by August and two U.S. Senators have already been briefed on the attack according to a report in the highly respected Asia Times, which cites a former assistant secretary of state and U.S. career diplomat as its source.

    Muhammad Cohen’s article claims that Senator Diane Feinstein, Democrat of California, and Senator Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, were informed of the attack plan and planned to voice their opposition to it in a New York Times editorial in an attempt to offset the air strike. The editorial is yet to materialize.

    According to Cohen’ source, the Neo-Cons believe that they can perpetrate a "limited" air strike aimed more at sending a message than destroying Iran’s supposed nuclear program, but the consequences of such a move are likely to provoke a massive Iranian retaliation, as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has consistently warned.

    The George W Bush administration plans to launch an air strike against Iran within the next two months, an informed source tells Asia Times Online, echoing other reports that have surfaced in the media in the United States recently.

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    Two key US senators briefed on the attack planned to go public with their opposition to the move, according to the source, but their projected New York Times op-ed piece has yet to appear.

    The source, a retired US career diplomat and former assistant secretary of state still active in the foreign affairs community, speaking anonymously, said last week that that the US plans an air strike against the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC). The air strike would target the headquarters of the IRGC’s elite Quds force. With an estimated strength of up to 90,000 fighters, the Quds’ stated mission is to spread Iran’s revolution of 1979 throughout the region.

    The source said the White House views the proposed air strike as a limited action to punish Iran for its involvement in Iraq. The source, an ambassador during the administration of president H W Bush, did not provide details on the types of weapons to be used in the attack, nor on the precise stage of planning at this time. It is not known whether the White House has already consulted with allies about the air strike, or if it plans to do so.

    Speculating on whether such a strike will benefit either McCain or Obama on the eve of the presidential election, the report points out that McCain has built his candidacy around an aggressive foreign policy therefore would be the likelier to take advantage.

    "A strike on Iran could rally American voters to back the war effort and vote for McCain," states the article.

    "On the other hand, an air strike on Iran could heighten public disenchantment with Bush administration policy in the Middle East, leading to support for the Democratic candidate, whoever it is."

    Iran’s inevitable response would send oil prices skyrocketing towards $200 dollars a barrel as global instability threatened to boil over into numerous different regions in the aftermath of any attack. McCain’s ability to grandstand as a tough war leader would no doubt be amplified by a compliant corporate media and a sizable proportion of the American public would rally behind the Arizona Senator, especially if American interests were the subject of terrorist attacks on behalf of Hezbollah and Hamas.

    China’s response to any attack, with the Communist nation being Iran’s biggest customer for oil, would also be key. Any inkling of a hostile reaction would place the world under the greatest threat since the height of the cold war.

    Lugar and Feinstein’s public opposition to the plan "would likely create a public groundswell of criticism that could induce the Bush administration reconsider its plan," states the article but, "Given their obligations to uphold the secrecy of classified information, it is unlikely the senators would reveal the Bush administration’s plan or their knowledge of it."

    The impending invasion of Iran has been on the grapevine for the past three summers running and many are beginning to fear that the "boy who cried wolf" mentality is starting to discredit those who repeatedly warn of the coming attack. However, rhetoric has notably heated in the past few months.

    During Bush’s recent visit to Israel, an Israeli official claimed that a senior member in Bush’s entourage had stated in a closed meeting that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney had resolved to attack Iran before they left office.

    During a recent news conference at Israel’s parliament, US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House majority leader Steny Hoyer stated that the military option against Iran was still on the table.

    Prominent political figures such as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Gary Hart have warned that an attack on Iran won’t arrive absent a staged provocation or a new Gulf of Tonkin style incident.

    During a 2007 Senate Foreign Relations Committee meeting, Brzezinski alluded to the potential for the Bush administration to manufacture a false flag Gulf of Tonkin type incident in describing a "plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran," which would revolve around "some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

    In an open letter to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, former Senator and current CFR member Hart warned the Iranian President that he would be, "Well advised to read the history of the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana harbor in 1898 and the history of the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964," two false flag events manufactured by the U.S. itself to kick start a war.

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    268 Responses to “Top Source Says Bush To Strike Iran By August”

    1. TXGIRL Says:

      A few well placed cruise missles coul be the answer to the insane plots against the entire world. Crawford, DC, Houston, Kennebunkport……….just a few that come to mind.

    2. bangflop Says:

      this will be the trigger that sends diesel up to or over 10 bux a gallon and me locked and loaded into the hills.

    3. TheGirlWhoListens.....from CACA-fornia Says:

      I talk with an Iranian guy I know several a week. I am
      always asking about this stuff and he assures me it’s just a game,
      no attack, no bombs. Finally, I begged for info. He was frustrated with me
      said he has mother, father, grandmother and other family members there
      and talks with them daily. If they were in danger he would send for them.
      Assured me they said absolutely nothing is going on and US will not attack.
      Told me to ‘get a grip and quit worrying.’

      So, what am I to believe? BTW this guy owns a business but has to
      work a job on the side to stay afloat. So he’s not wealthy.

    4. Buck Johnson Says:

      If it happens in August as they say, it will almost guarantee a victory for McCain, unless everything doesn’t go to plan. Another thing, is that maybe Iran leaders want an attack. They have alot of internal pressure from the young in there country wanting change, if an attack happens it will stifle the change crowd and help solidify the ruling gang that has been in charge. This is a bad idea for him to start something this late in the game and expect someone else to clean up.

    5. TheGirlWhoListens.....from CACA-fornia Says:

      #1 TXGIRL ; put Nazi Colorado airport on that list. Their underground
      bunker is rumored to be the new government headquarters.

    6. bangflop Says:

      this makes me think it is all bs again: “During Bush’s recent visit to Israel, an Israeli official claimed that a senior member in Bush’s entourage had stated in a closed meeting that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney had resolved to attack Iran before they left office.”
      No names.. some said somebody said someone inside said.. bs

    7. Number 6 Says:

      Bush goes to war. Screws the election for the Republicans. Obama ends up in the scandal of the century if he’s lucky and in skates Hil… Hil… Hil… I can’t even say it. But really nothing unexpected it was just a matter of time.

    8. Charades Says:

      Nice to see they have both a Democrat and a Republican senator inveigled in this plot to draw the US into yet another illegal war. The criminal facade that the two main corporate parties are somehow not behaving in seditious and traitorous ways has once again been shown to be completely false. Whether Democrat or Republican they have one main purpose: to destroy and steal everything you have.

    9. James Says:

      Headache city:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

    10. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLibertionFront Says:

      Muhammad Cohen??? Never, ever heard a name like that. Interesting…that’s all. Yet to attack Iran would be a catastrophe on any scale!!! Take out a carrier and put the blame on Iran!!! Should that happen…you better think hard about how the defense grid was compromised!!!

    11. Anna Says:

      We should support Freedom & Democracy in Iran as our Brave Soldiers & Air force seize control of Iran before next Election. Remember American Government his hear to protect you.

    12. buk Says:

      Anna I want to fuck you…that’s all your good for…bring little bethy Hasslebeck…I want to fuck her too

    13. Anna Says:

      Elisabeth Hasselbeck is true patriot who speaks against the liberal nonsense. And she also has great taste in shoes.

    14. buk Says:

      Yup…just bring your ass…with her…and we will rock….nice piece of duct tape over your mouth…and we should be fine

    15. Lynn Says:

      This explains why they are preparing for roadside bombs and beefing up the miltary and getting their FEMA camps ready. They are afraid of whats going to happen once they strike Iran. Everyone that protects themselves against these delusional, power hungry psychopath neocons is called a terrorist. I feel sorry for those people of Iran and the terror the US and Isreal are going to inflict on more innocent people for their thirst for power and their delusional lusting’s. They already killed US citizens in WTC, military men, women and 600,000 Iraqi’s. They can’t even take care of America and they want to take over more countries WHAT A JOKE! We are all here temporarily and when their day comes I hope they all burn in HELL for eternity.

    16. lizajean Says:

      …are there people on this site who are double agents trolling…with results???

    17. Kaily Says:

      Ah, yes. Those “Brave Soldiers & Air force” who murder children and throw puppies over cliffs. What fine people they are. Right up there with our “protective” government who murders its own citizens.

    18. James Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

    19. Stuvin Says:

      Anna Says:
      May 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

      We should support Freedom & Democracy in Iran as our Brave Soldiers & Air force seize control of Iran before next Election.

      Surely you mean that our brave soldiers & air force should seize control of the oil before the next election?

      If you believe in something so much, why not go over there now and prepare the ground for us.

      “There is a forgotten, nay almost a forbidden word which means more to me than any other. That word is ‘ENGLAND’. Once we flaunted it in the face of the world like a banner. It was a word of power. But today we are scarcely allowed to mention the name of our Country.

      I want to revive the grand old name of ENGLISHMAN!!”

      Illegitimus nil carborondum – Don’t let the bastards grind you down

    20. Lynn Says:

      ANNA,
      What the hell are you talking about?

    21. Mary Louise Says:

      Looks like next world war is inevitable very soon and in that case there won’t be another election. An interesting related article, “Orwellian America 9/11 and the Road to Iran”, can be read at http://keyholepublishing.com/O.....merica.htm

    22. James Says:

      In front of John McCains’ office:

      http://www.911blogger.com/node/15804

    23. Don't feed the trolls Says:

      Hey guys,

      Every post that mentions Anna/Trolls (including this one) does 2 very negative things:

      1) Gives her attention and encourages her to post more.
      2) Distracts from the real topic at hand.

      Any acknowledgement of her existence feeds right into her hand and helps accomplish her goals. I have seen numerous valuable topics get hijacked with Anna bashing. Please remember this when posting worthless comments about her. This website supports free speech and you can post anything you want. Lets just be a little smarter then them, ok?

    24. Demonstrate Says:

      It’s not going to be a surprise at all if the US attacks Iran just before Bush’s term ends. The only thing is Iran will fight back, so expect attacks on home turf. What I want to know is this, is Muhammed Cohen a Muslim or Jew? He could be none though.

    25. Lynn Says:

      Sorry, I am new to the site.
      I will be more cautious.
      Thank You
      God Bless

    26. Mary Louise Says:

      Whatever one’s religious beliefs might be, it cannot be denied that Dimitru Dudaman (exile from Romania) had a prophetic vision in 1996 of China and Russia (allies of Iran) to fight the U.S.

      Please take the time to read his vision – http://www.wovoca.com/prophecy-duduman-reuters.htm

    27. bologna Says:

      this is all pure speculation and he said she said BS. quit fearmongering

    28. AlPhA OMEGA Says:

      their going to invade Iran, listen to mccains speaches lately, there was a dude in the crowd yelling out stOP the War stop the war, mccain repleyd by saying I will never surrender in Iraq. after words the cnn reporters like there was some hecklers but they were takin out. not even mentioning the fact he was chanting STOP THE WaR, 1000 mostly civilians die every day in the name of freedom America, wtf, Iran will be attcked, just a matter of when and whether Akmaddinajad is down on the action.

    29. Eddie Says:

      To Mary Louise, You do not need be a Prohpet to know that China and Russia will emerge as the World New Super Powers, my Professor in the University reached this conclusion in one of his Lectures back in 1987! 9 years before your Romanian Prophet did, It took him some knowledge, opened his eyes to the events, then used logic to link the Dots, and the picture became clear. His conclusion went beyond your Prophecy to predict the fall of the Dollar Value, raising the Oil Prices, and predicted a new War every 10 years Cycle for whatever reason can be acclaimed by the “West” inorder to keep the Military equipmenst on demands, and the War propheteers to sell more products to the Governments, off course all that would happen while the People are busy trying to pay their Debts to the Banks, and while people are busy voting for the new American Idol, getting brain washed while watching Reality TV shows, which prepared them to accpet the “No Privacy Policy”, and get them used to be on Cameras to record every movements they make.

    30. Dr. No Says:

      Everytime I see stories like this warning of an imminent attack on Iran, I just want to SCREAM! Does nobody else see how utterly crazed these lunatic neocons are? Bush and Cheney should be put in straight jackets and locked safely away in a padded cell!

      Attacking Iran would absolutely, certifiably DESTROY America once and for all. Overnight, oil will hit $200 on its way up to $300. Gas will start at $6 on its way up to $10 a gallon. MILLIONS will lose their jobs within a month, and food riots won’t be far off. Martial law will have to be declared for this alone, a perfect excuse to round up the millions of patriots and get them out of the way. WE’RE TALKING THE 9TH CIRCLE OF HELL OPENING UP!

      What is it going to take to get these madmen out of power? How long are they going to be allowed to push us closer and closer to Armageddon? WHY ISN’T EVERYBODY RAISING HELL ABOUT THIS ON A CONSTANT, CONTINUING BASIS?

    31. Mary Louise Says:

      Eddie (#30), thanks for your response. I agree that you don’t have to be a prophet to know things and I’m sure there are many aware, astute individuals who have figured things out ahead of the game. It’s just interesting that this persecuted man from Romania had a vision of things to come. I’ve been aware of many things myself for many years, but this thing with Iran has me a bit worried, especially since it is not only Iran we will be dealing with. I hate war and destruction. Hasn’t there been enough misery and suffering in the world? Apparently not enough to suit the insane warmongers bent on destroying everything good that is left. Guess people need to repent and get right with their Maker, because all hell is about to be unleashed upon the world. We are all pawns in the game of the Grand Chessboard.

    32. Mary Louise Says:

      #31, Dr. No… I feel the same way!

    33. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Dr. No

      The Talmud’s (bush’s administration, federal reserve) want their messiah, and they are going to open up the “9th circle of hell” to get him! “They” are using the U.S. to get him, and it doesn’t matter who suffers or dies to usher him in…

    34. HANGALLPOLITICANS Says:

      fucking scum bags

    35. doctordrewl Says:

      The Olympics runs most of August…and it seems like a perfect place for some Secret Op with a “Radical Iranian” taking the blame for some explosion or massacre…… Remember Atlanta 1996… Bomb goes off kills one injures 100… with no one ever convicted…. just a money source and excuse to target other terrorists…and political enemies. TWA Flight 800 blew up that same week….

      Luckily the Chinese Gov’t is aware of this… in April they reported shutting down a ring of 35 Islamic terrorists….. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/.....index.html) but because of Tibet, the Torch Fiasco, and now the horrible 7.9 Earthquake….this has been buried in the news. The fact that they mentioned this scares me most of all… it’s sort of like all the talk about tracking Osama Bin Laden the summer before 9/11. A lot of people take credit for predicting the event…. but I was totally asleep at the time… and I remember seeing videotapes of Osama bin Laden being interviewed, walking with AK’s and camels, and diving into a Limosines on CNN that summer… while the spooks were engraining in our minds the fact… that this was the most dangerous man in the world! In retrospect it was a no-brainer… something was coming, and sadly, it seems this way for the 08 Olymics. I truly hope not…. but this fits nicely into the Neocon calendar…

      Also, Chinese people are very sensitive, and a false-flag event could easily be overblown in the media, providing corrupt Chinese leaders a political reason to side with the Neocons in a bilateral strike of Iran…. This would also neutralize any theoretical, Soviet counter… and the Trilaterals would get everything they want….w

      If I was Lebron James… I’d stay home.

    36. Colorado Patriot Says:

      The American government is here to protect and serve all right….protect their best interests and serve us papers. People they dont give to shits about any of us, but thats okay cause I’m pretty sure that they are all going to burn in hell for an eternity for it…..not to far from now either at the pace things are going…get ready for another civil war.

    37. Colorado Patriot Says:

      Yes Dr. No they should be locked in a cell,……. in straitjackets……….. at the bottom of the ocean………….. after we hang them all. Great Idea!!!!!

    38. Mary Louise Says:

      Colorado Patriot… Exactly! My only consolation is that the real evil doers will burn in HELL!!!

    39. Alexander Torres Says:

      The world is asleep, watching American Idol, and the rest of them shows which I dont’t know the names cause I never watch television. I’m in Canada working on a newspaper Revolutionary News, where I will expose these demon politicians, I’m going for their coldless heart, without no fear of the consequences. Harper, Bush and I can just feel their smirks laughing at us, like they god. It burns to see them passing more laws taking away our freedom to live, banning phsychoactive herbs, controlling the kind of experiences we have, while the world is asleep dreaming in fantasy. They want war, I’ll show them the power of knowledge and truth. Until the day i die.

    40. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Colorado Patriot:

      The guillotine

    41. Mary Louise Says:

      #40, Alexander Torres… While you are at it, PLEASE expose C51, the so-called Health Bill Canada is getting ready to pass. It’s very dangerous – http://www.mychurch.org/blog/1.....ealth-Bill

    42. TRUTHPLZ Says:

      We’d be wise to take these warnings seriously. I think a sense of purpose and even urgency is needed in a push for 9/11 truth, which I believe is the best chance we have at getting at this rat’s nest of traitor’s. They have some big, bad plans in the works and if we would like to avoid seeing them come to fruition then we’d better get the truth moving. Demanding the truth is our right. Let’s use that right while we still have it.

    43. Colorado Patriot Says:

      amen to that mary louise! ……and offwiththeirheads indoubatably, I think the guillotine would be splendid but its just too fast and they really do deserve to suffer for at least a little while. We could put them in front of a firing squad, ….assault rifles only since they didn’t reinstate the assault rifle ban of course ….lol

    44. Anonymous Says:

      If America and/or Israel attack(s) Iran, World opinion will turn sharply against these two waring states for good. These should also expect their international commercial and political interests to be shunned, including outright attacks on their nationals abroad.

      In short, an attack on Iran is nothing short of lunacy. It inevitably will lead to closure of oil tanker traffic in the Persian Gulf, which means a 40% cut in world-wide exportable oil. This will lead to economic catastrophe and politic instability everywhere. It will also result in new, dangerous political unions against America and Israel.

    45. fleur de lys Says:

      Many bills where pssed OK by stamping fury Harper since 911…but this one is by far the most extented against civil rights for further appendicing!!
      http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePu.....amp;file=4

    46. Tina Says:

      This is so scary, I’m so scared of what will happen to my kids, my husband, my other family, my firends and every other innocent american! All Bush thinks about is himself and how he’ll make out in the end. He deserves the same fate as Sadam Hussein because I am convinced that it was him who planned 9/11 and killed all of those innocent people! And now he’s killing hundreds of american soldiers for what? So he can make millions off the oil? We were told by a friend who is a government official that every american should stock up on food and own at least one fire arm, and that’s from a government official! How scary, I fear my kids will never live to grow old and have their own family and experience life. I fear for all of our lives! Instead of attacking all americans why can’t these people and other countries just target the ones responsible for all this mess like Bush and Cheney?

    47. lizajean Says:

      fdl – i say this with all my heart – c51 is nothing but continued genocide on behalf of our government – can our opinion make a difference???

    48. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Colorado Patriot, I want clean cuts so they can be set at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, otherwise some cowardly, fascist village idiot will want them honorably buried in Arlington Cemetery.

    49. Mothman Says:

      The subtle mention of China’s response is what really is at stake in any Iran attack. China’s interests will be threatened and they in turn could invade Taiwan or any number of other nations that we have pacts to support in the event of an attack on their nations. If China and Russian get together we could be very well surprised by what happens to us. It wont be good, but then again it is just staged theater for the masses. In reality the world is being restructured and all the players know their part in the plan to eliminate and reduce the worlds population. Let’s just hope that China or Russia or even Israel does not go nuclear with their arsenal of weapons because going nuclear will be the end of us all.

    50. Colorado Patriot Says:

      Tina don’t worry I know that me and mine plan on protecting and helping as many people as we possibly can. We all have families too. I still think its a good idea to invest in precious metals though….not gold and silver but brass and lead if you get my drift. There are plenty of people out there that know that the cat almost out of the bag and I think if we all stick together on this we can get our country and our lives back. Just get a gun…preferably one that holds a lot of ammo, ie: ak-47, Ar-15, mp5….etc. Learn to use it and don’t be afraid to use it to protect your family and yourself. Thats the best advice I can give you.

    51. akasha Says:

      i found this you tube clip which is disinfo from a very intelligent group of folks in which they try to replicate Alex Jones’ ‘officer jack boot’ segment, which i must say was absolutely HILLARIOUS!!!
      im sad when people abuse the power that they are entrusted with… and i think that Alex has a good heart and realizes this and that’s what set him off on his funny rant… apparently this threatened some dangerous people at least thats what it looks like from seeing this clips… i would like some infowarriors to leave some comments on this you tube peice… ive already left a few… its seriously disturbing!!

      here’s the link http://youtube.com/watch?v=inH.....re=related

      akasha

    52. fleur de lys Says:

      Liz…of course but we need at least 50%+1 public opinion against it…lol.
      Its not funny but this Harper prostitute is not going to let go.cuz he and Bush are bum buddys.
      Both familys are in oil and money.

    53. Tina Says:

      Colorado Patriot…I am unable to own a fire arm because my husband has a felony from when he was 18.

    54. lizajean Says:

      fdl – harper simply = prostitute for canadian natural resources

    55. fleur de lys Says:

      Liz…je seconde!!!

    56. Marcia Wilson Says:

      Write congress house of reps and senators, email bush at white house and cheney too, call the white house and tell them not to bomb Iran. Just for the hell of it. Act like you are their boss and you are the decider. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be? If everyone did that, at least we gave a direct order in multitudes. They do what they want, but it helps get out the anger. Then when do we march on washington, when russian missles are flying overhead? We could stop the war and future war with iran and syria now if the world saw millions of americans heading toward the white house and capitol hill. They would hate bush, but be on our side. The people’s side. I have the summer off from my job, I’m ready to go. It’s either that or not have a job or a country come august if this report is accurate.

    57. lizajean Says:

      fdl – calling it a night – a demain!

    58. fleur de lys Says:

      Liz…fait de beaux reves.
      joy and peace!

    59. bangflop Says:

      Tina, I wouldn’t let that stop me, buy one from a local for cash, hide the weapon and ammo someplace “safe” and close by so when the time comes you need it laws are not going to matter.

    60. TONKA Says:

      …”potential for the Bush administration to manufacture a false flag Gulf of Tonkin type incident,”

      Do you mean like 911?? or Madrid, or London, or Oklahoma City, or the USS Cole, or Flight 800? Does it ever end? But you left out 911?? Shame, sir.

    61. nice Says:

      Terror is nothing more than error with a cross in front. Treason is nothing more than reason with a cross in front. Combining religion and state has been the ultimate downfall of this once great Country. On the very first day, the first sentence, the first words, the first letters, of the first document ever written said (paraphrase of course) “Well shall let no crazy ass religion control our country in any way, that doesnt mean you are unable to practice religion, its just that you should never combine religion and state.” Since then devout evenagelical Christians like the ones typing on this Alex Jones site have made it their mission to destroy that first sentence ever written.

      Research the Jesuits!!!!!

    62. Colorado Patriot Says:

      Have someone else buy one for you then tina. I don’t know what else to tell you. Make a choice, either die or break one of the stupid laws that the government passed as they were becoming a tyrannical police state. Besides most peoples felonys consist of drug charges anyways, which shouldn’t be a felony anyways seeing as the CIA is THE biggest importer of drugs in this country. The whole war on drugs is just job security and their way to control everybody. The more drugs they bring into the country, the more money they make, the more people they arrest for it, the more money they make, the more people they keep in jail for it or on probation from it, the more money they make….see the pattern??

    63. fleur de lys Says:

      TONKA…good night brother.
      joy and peace , god bless!

    64. Justin Challis Says:

      Listen guys, I am willing to walk from Toronto in Canada all the way to the Capital of The United States of America in Washington DC and Tell Bush to his face not to do this. I AM CANADIAN BUT I STILL CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD DESPITE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    65. TONKA Says:

      #64 fleur… Peace and God bless to you fleur. Good night!

    66. Justin Challis Says:

      Look guys as much as we sit here and talk about it NOTHING is getting DONE!!!! That is THE PATTERN TO ALL OF YOU!!!! IF something has to change then WE need to change it!!!!!

    67. TONKA Says:

      #67 Justin… Aren’t you part of us who is… “ALL OF YOU”???

    68. TONKA Says:

      #67 Justin… I’m all for a convention of Truthers and Patriots. Soon!

    69. Justin Challis Says:

      I AM paryt of US haha im sorry to miscomunicate but the point is that we REALLY NEED to do something about this. A governement is run by its people not the other way around!

    70. offwiththeirheads Says:

      #63 Don’t forget the main one: destruction of the family. Take away the headship and you have weakened the basic structure of Creation; leading to vulnerabilities and wickedness.

    71. TONKA Says:

      #71 offwith… Very good point, and very true!

    72. Justin Challis Says:

      ITS like this…TAke away ANYONE and you have weakened the human race!. Guys the main point here is htat people ARE dying! Im not even American and I feel for this cause. I feel like im going to play a major role in all of this and I really need to make my voice heard rather than sit by and watch as thousands of Americans ( my very awesome neighbours to the South DIE!) I can’t handle that!!!!

    73. TONKA Says:

      #70 Justin… I see your point and wholeheartedly agree. But this government has not been run by the people for at least 100 years, if not since its inception.

    74. Mary Louise Says:

      #62, nice, many people have researched the Jesuits. Have you ever heard of Alberto Rivera, who was an ex-Jesuit exposing them? Besides, Catholicism is not Christian. Anyway, it’s the so-called phony Christians giving the real Christians a bad name. Furthermore, Separation of Church and State means the right to practice any religion apart from the State’s interferrence.

    75. TONKA Says:

      #73 Justin… We need to unite as a people together for freedom for all.

    76. TONKA Says:

      #75 Mary… Agreed.

    77. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Yes, Tonka my eyes are open and see the pattern of diabolical, undermining from every angle a.k.a: psychological warfare.

    78. TONKA Says:

      #78 offwith… It’s also a nefarious and diabolical spiritual war being waged on us all. No Fear!

    79. Mary Louise Says:

      #62, nice… forgot to mention Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins. Google him, as he has certainly exposed a lot!

    80. Justin Challis Says:

      Guys, This is the point I don’t understand
      WE are all here talking about this but why not make a plan to act???

    81. Mary Louise Says:

      #77, Tonka… Whew! Glad somebody agrees!

    82. offwiththeirheads Says:

      ;) NONE Tonka. I am aware of the spiritual forces and their goals…

    83. TONKA Says:

      #82 Mary… I think nice posted the same post under the name doug, so I wouldn’t put too much effort into it. But yes, I agree with you. I am a Christian. A true Christian.

      #81 Justin… I think many of us have been planning for the impending chaos. But we are so splintered and spread across the globe, that we must concentrate on shoring up our preparations within our communities first, and then unite enmass as time plays out. Until then, information and communication is key to spreading the Truth.

    84. offwiththeirheads Says:

      #81. We would all have to put our private info out here for the hellions.

    85. shahin Says:

      Join our community over IRC Its instant chat with 40+- infowarriors.
      The irc channel can be reached by going to http://www.efnet.org and the channel #deprogram

      Our website is http://www.dprogram.wordpress.com

      UNITE WITH US ! We’re on talking about issues every day/night and your definately welcome to join us if your reading this article and others =)

    86. TONKA Says:

      #83 offwith… You are a brother in freedom and peace.

    87. FEDupwithFEDS Says:

      This is really out of the context of this story. I apologize. But just found a Poll that we should probably all participate in.

      Go here and put in your yes or no. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24653698/

    88. ALLABOUTTHETRUTH Says:

      Yes we have heard this rehtoric for some time now about U.S attacking Iran, and for those that doubt this rumor, ask yourself, why would BUSH send 3 aircraft carriers and battleships to persian gulf without a serious purpose. President BUSH came into power with a war and he will go out the same way, furthermore it is my guess that when the U.S does a mini attack on the so called terrorist trainng camps in Iran the same administration that caused 911 will hit the BAY STREET BRIDGE IN SAN FRANSISCO to make IRAN look like they did it which in turn will start an all out war. This will escalate to the point of the POPULATION of the world Being CHIPPED after the dust settles and i dont have to tell you who you will side with if you accept the CHIP. Time for everyone to GET RIGHT WITH GOD. PEACE

    89. liar Says:

      NWO CONTROLS BOTH SIDES OF EVERY WAR!!!!!!!

    90. TONKA Says:

      #85 offwith… Many of us have shared our information here. They already know who we are and our information, which sites we frequent and what we post. They want us to be fearful.

      Steven John Hibbs – Ashland, Wisconsin – walkingtonka@yahoo.com

      No Fear!

    91. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Ditto Tonka, “we know them when we see them” as the scripture has said ;)

    92. response Says:

      #81 Justin
      I believe 4th of july theres supposed to be a protest in D.C.

    93. Esteban Says:

      #80 Mary Louise, Eric Jon Phelps is a liar who makes things up. Jesuit conspiracy theories are 95% bullshit. Ask Alex Jones, he’ll tell you the same.

    94. Dr. No Says:

      #90… The only war the NWO canNOT control is the InfoWar. Ideas are bulletproof and cannot be bought or sold.

    95. TONKA Says:

      The point I’m trying to make here by sharing names and emails, is that we are no longer anonymous as invisible entities. We, by doing so, become a force of visible unity. The elite relish in the fact that we all hide behind monikers. Knowing, that we are still divided.

      That should answer Justin’s question, and address offwith’s statement of division. Their plan is ancient – Divide and Conquer – It’s time to unite and destroy the enemies energy. No Fear!

    96. Gary Says:

      If the Bush regime intends to attack Iran by August, then we should expect another false-flag “attack” within the U.S. – to be blamed on agents of Iran – sometime between now and August. Either that, or they will simply go ahead and do what they want to without even bothering to cook up a false justification for it this time.

    97. TONKA Says:

      #93 response… It’s July 12th in DC.

    98. offwiththeirheads Says:

      I got it and will email you Tonka. Now I get the screen name: bold, earth moving machine. Hence, NO FEAR!

    99. D.Bell Says:

      Screw anonymity! Don’t be a chicken-shit.

      We are Americans. Give me liberty, or give me death.

      The planned war with Iran is suicidal madness.

    100. offwiththeirheads Says:

      I have NO FEAR OF THEM, it’s the other freaks lurking with some penile enlargement spam b.s.

    101. TONKA Says:

      #94 Esteban… No offense, but probably as many of us believe that statement as believe 95% of the “conspiracy theories” concerning 911 are “bullshit”.

    102. TONKA Says:

      #99 offwith… Actually, TONKA is Lakota for BIG SPIRIT. Same thing, I guess. Cool though, I look forward to your email, brother.

    103. offwiththeirheads Says:

      In the subject of my email I will identify myself and you will know who I am!

    104. TONKA Says:

      #104 offwith… I look forward to it, sir. More of us must begin to create real alliances before all hell breaks loose and the internet, as well as all other communication is cut off.

    105. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Perhaps with EMP Tonka. Inevitable.

    106. TONKA Says:

      #106 offwith… I’m more inclined to think that there will be a false flag event here, martial law will then be imposed (cutting communication), then a few token nukes may be dropped in retaliation, and then a bio-plague will be released to force people into camps for deadly inoculations.

    107. Tom Sawyer Says:

      Muhammad Cohen is the author’s name. That is some name. If anyone studies Cutting Through The Matrix, we’d see “Praiseworthy Priest,” and the essential figures of 2 major religions. Muhammad is, of course. the Prophet of Islam, and Cohen is the priest of Judaism. If this message is coming from a ‘praiseworthy priest’ of both combatting factions, I think this is probably an omen we should heed. We’re all expecting it anyway.

      Most Christians are paganized jews, so we just act as surrogates. The Judaism vs Islam is the real conflict, or at least, the dialectic for the third world war.

    108. TONKA Says:

      #108 Tom… What??

      The only true Jews are from the tribes of Judah and Benjamin from the House of Judah, who were brought into captivity into Babylon for their own good (Jeremiah 20). They were called Yehudim (Jehudim). Meanwhile, the other ten tribes of Israel were brought off to Assyria (Turkey) and assimilated into their pagan cultures and bloodlines.

      Jesus Christ, Paul, and all the apostles were from the tribe of Benjamin, except for Judas. But none of that still has anything to do with what a true Christian is. A true Christian is a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ through faith in Him by His grace. Regardless who you are.

    109. Esteban Says:

      #102 TONKA… actually, most 9/11 conspiracy theories ARE bullshit. “Hologram planes”… “computer graphic news footage”… “thousands of Jews who worked at the World Trade Center didn’t show up to work on 9/11/01″… should I continue?

      You’re here at Alex Jones’ site. ASK HIM what he thinks about Eric Jon Phelps and the “Jesuits rule the world” bullshit. google around a little bit, and you’ll see what he thinks of those bozos. AJ isn’t right about everything, but he at least makes real effort to have evidence to back up his claims. That’s a lot more than I can say for Phelps and his ilk, who just flat out make stuff up.

    110. Drake Says:

      If this happens folks….it’ll be the final nail in the coffin, lets repeat this again IRAN is not IRAQ, for all the people who think it’ll be just like Iraq…wrong….This will start WWIII…but then again like we said, thats maybe the whole plan, thats maybe what they want….and if thats true be prepared to enter into a whole new world of darkness…….

    111. Tom Sawyer Says:

      Baruch ha’Shem ha Mashiach, Yeshua
      Baruch ho’Shem Adonai

    112. Dr. No Says:

      #108… Most Christians have their head up their ass, especially the ones who think they are going to heaven just because they “believe on Jesus” now, and don’t say a damned thing against George Bush and these damned wars for Middle Eastern oil.

    113. Tom Sawyer Says:

      It is a must be.
      WE at home, need to strike. Total economy shutdown. Stock up on food enough for 2 weeks. And get ready to NOT WORK.

    114. Tom Sawyer Says:

      Tonka, we all come form Rome as Christians. Protestants, too.

    115. TONKA Says:

      #110 Esteban… I’ll agree that those theories you stated are bullshit, except for certain people being warned not to go to work that day. But those are not the theories I was addressing. I am sure I need not bore you with repeating the theories that the government and media have demonized which most of us know to be fact.

      As far as Phelps, I’m not familiar enough with his work, nor did I state or believe that the Jesuits run the world. But Adam Weishaupt, who founded the Bavarian Illuminati in 1776, after being commissioned by Rothschild in 1773 to re-establish a new Luciferian Order, was a Jesuit Priest and a Professor of Law at Ingolstadt.

      Maybe you are who you run with?

    116. Miss Me Says:

      “According to Cohen’ source, the Neo-Cons believe that they can perpetrate a “limited” air strike aimed more at sending a message than destroying Iran’s supposed nuclear program’

      As a message? And what does this administration think will follow such a message? Does half of the public in this nation realize that the Iranian civilians are PRO American? Do they realize that millions of Iranians stood out and did a candle light vigil in regard to 911 letting the American public know their hearts were grieving for everyone here and on Americas side in heart and mind?( research online to see what you can find about other nations before believing all your 5 ‘o’ clock news.

      Do half of the Americans realize that it is government admin. on both sides have issues and not the people on each side? And I do believe the US admin. should look how this man is in power in Iran to begin with. Didn’t they have something to do with it? Make up your minds. This is sad sad sad.

      And there will be casualties/deaths of innocents in both nations for what? A extra few trillion of debt? Haliburton Kbr and the rest getting richer? Pathetic. I guess I should start an ammo company or reconstruction co. and befriend the president and become filthy rich. Oh wait. I appreciate human life of all races/nations and have morals.. That won’t work!

      I suggest people start to think about speaking up and quit waiting for the guy next door to do it for you.

    117. TONKA Says:

      #115 Tom… With all due respect, you’re wrong. The RCC is pagan. Not all Christians are from Rome, nor was Peter the first Pope. He was crucified in Rome upside down on a cross because he didn’t feel worthy to be crucified rightside up like Jesus Christ. It is by faith through His grace.

    118. chris Says:

      if, excuse me, WHEN this happens russia and china will retaliate. Whether militarily or economicaly or both, either way the US is screwed…. unfortanatly, that is precisely what the elite want, and they will most likely use the economic collapse and nuclear war to achive their goals. one world government here we come

    119. X Says:

      We’ll see. If it does happen, we can’t say we weren’t warned.

    120. TONKA Says:

      #119 Chris… I agree. China from the east and Russia from the north. It is WWIII.

    121. wcorowitz Says:

      Christ was not hung on a cross. The word for cross is not found in the early translations. It was added later. The words that are found are words that mean tree (xylon) or stauros (upright stake or beam). look at acts 5:30 in the king james version. The cross as we know it is a derivative of the pagan ankh symbol. But I agree Peter is in no way connected with the pope.

    122. TONKA Says:

      It will happen. This was always their plan; to seal off Afghanistan, then Iraq, then pinch Iran on all sides in order to secure the region from a Chinese invasion from the east, and a Russian invasion from the north in order to protect Israel. But this isn’t all about oil. This is spiritual.

    123. TONKA Says:

      #122 wc… You’re right. I use the term “cross” because most understand the generic sense of it. And I do read the Thompson’s Chain-Reference Authorized 1611 King James Version. Peace.

    124. wcorowitz Says:

      Bush’s former press sec. McClellan just came out and slammed Rove and bush on the Iraq war and Katrina. Maybe this is just the start. The worm is turning……in the words of Webster Tarpley. I just saw the interview between John Edwards and Barbra Walters. She tried to press him on if he was sure if he knew 9/11 was the work of foreigners. He just had this smug look on his face and said: I can’t comment. It reminded me when Bill Clinton was questioned about building 7 and claimed he didn’t know where building 7 was with a smug look on his face. Something is going to happen one way or another. either they will be exposed in time, or they will strike Iran. If they strike Iran, it’s game over for everyone else.

    125. X Says:

      Some believe Christ was put on a straight stake with his arms stretched upward and his hands nailed above him. The Latin word for “cross” can apply to EITHER a traditional cross OR a straight stake, and the Romans used both.

    126. TONKA Says:

      #125 wc… I think one of the reasons so many of these traitors display such smug hubris and arrogance, is because the end game is already in place, and they’re just waiting for the final orders to pull the trigger. Bring it on. No Fear!

    127. TONKA Says:

      The bottom line, regardless what Jesus Christ was crucified on, He was murdered as prophesied in Roman tradition (although it dates back much further than that). That’s all I was really saying by using the term “cross”. You guys are on the ball though. Knowledge!

    128. offwiththeirheads Says:

      The talmud’s are ushering in their messiah, the anti-christ. They need orchestrated chaos and mass deception for him to arrive as the world’s peace maker…

    129. SP Says:

      Its funny how everybody thinks that Ahmadinejad is the ruler of Iran. Wrong, the supreme ruler of Iran
      is the Ayatollah.

    130. www.thereignofchrist.org Says:

      http://www.thereignofchrist.org

      Freemasonry is the beginning of the descent into hell of the
      unsuspecting, and the willing embracing of Satan by the knowing.

      Ecclesiastically: It is necessary for Freemasonry to destroy the true
      Church, in order to give the entire world over to their boss, Satan.
      They have and will use any and all means to accomplish this. Their
      structure has four main lodges: Blue, Red, Black, and Orange:

      The Blue Lodge is to take control of all the governments of the
      world.
      The Red Lodge is to assist the Blue with revolution if necessary.
      The Black Lodge is to assist with famine when needed (cut off the
      food supply).
      The Orange Lodge is to destroy the Church.

    131. www.thereignofchrist.org Says:

      http://www.thereignofchrist.org

      The Church and Freemasonry

      On 27 May 1917, just 14 days after Our Lady’s first apparition at
      Fatima, the Roman Catholic Church officially condemned
      Freemasonry under Canon 2335 which reads: “Persons joining
      associations of the Masonic sect or any others of the same kind
      which plot against the Church and legitimate civil authorities
      contract ‘ipso facto’ excommunication simply reserved to the
      Apostolic See.” (‘Ipso facto’ – by that very fact or act).

      However, in 1983 the Canon was replaced by Canon 1374 which
      states : “A person who joins an association which plots against the
      Church is to be punished with a just penalty; one who promotes or
      takes office in such an association is to be punished with an
      interdict.” (‘Interdict’ – to prohibit an action. An official
      prohibition).

      In short, the actions of the fatal Vatican II Council are still being felt
      by the horrible infiltration and control by the Masons in the highest
      offices of the Roman Catholic Church. The act of replacing an
      excommunication with an ‘official prohibition’ is simply a watering
      down and ipso facto turning an ecclesiastical blind eye to the devil.
      It is certainly true that the smoke of Satan has entered into the
      Vatican, and even more so, it is in controlling positions.

    132. www.thereignofchrist.org Says:

      http://www.thereignofchrist.org

      The 144,000 are those who believe in
      the full Gospel of Jesus, the King of the Jews.
      “These follow the Lamb whithersoever He goes” (Apoc 14:4).

      Good night and God bless all who search for Truth with an open heart!

      The Lord will answer your prayer and fulfill you in Truth!

    133. TONKA Says:

      #129 offwith… Hello again. You’re right. They are both the Jewish and Christian Zionist’s who are Luciferians (Satanists).

      #130 SP… Most of us who are awake are aware of that. But the mainstream media pummels the sheep with propaganda until they believe in the Easter Bunny.

    134. TONKA Says:

      #133 thereign… Good night. Peace and God bless.

    135. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Hi Tonka, I see you are retiring for the night. And yes at least there are quite a few of us that know that.

      By the way, I replied. God bless

    136. TONKA Says:

      #136 offwith… I was actually saying “good night” to thereign. I have a bit more time to converse left in me tonight.

    137. offwiththeirheads Says:

      And not true Jews either, they stole their identity to deceive and destroy in the name of pity.

    138. TONKA Says:

      #136 offwith… So did I (reply). Did you receive mine?

    139. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Ok, I see now…

      thereign knows the truth! God bless you too!

    140. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Yes, and I replied to that

    141. TONKA Says:

      offwith… I posted this a while back. You may have missed it?

      109
      TONKA Says:

      May 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
      #108 Tom… What??

      The only true Jews are from the tribes of Judah and Benjamin from the House of Judah, who were brought into captivity into Babylon for their own good (Jeremiah 20). They were called Yehudim (Jehudim). Meanwhile, the other ten tribes of Israel were brought off to Assyria (Turkey) and assimilated into their pagan cultures and bloodlines.

      Jesus Christ, Paul, and all the apostles were from the tribe of Benjamin, except for Judas. But none of that still has anything to do with what a true Christian is. A true Christian is a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ through faith in Him by His grace. Regardless who you are.

    142. TONKA Says:

      #141 offwith… Cool, cool. We are in communique. Excellent.

    143. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Yes I did miss it. And amen to the righteous lineage of our Lord and the Trinity. 98% of Christians don’t know that.

    144. offwiththeirheads Says:

      I see you read it. Interesting, aye?

    145. Mike In Austin Says:

      I am a true believer, and I know this. When jacob entered Canaan with his people, they killed every living creature. That is not a christain. That is a cruel vicious group of ruthless murderers. The idea is that killing a non-jewish goat or kitty, or child, is what god wants them to do. The followers of Jacob are going to hell, to join him.

    146. Truth Says:

      Wow #132, do you see how satan blinds these people. You post the truth and they do not even respond. True to the true Church of Christ.

      The evil one hates the Truth.

      Thank you for posting

      Pax Tecum.

    147. TONKA Says:

      #144 offwith… That unfortunately is so true. Among other things, I am a Christian Pastor of non-denomination.

      “Is Christ divided?…” – I Corinthians 1:13

      Far too many corrupt teachers, priests, and pastors are leading their flocks astray.

      “Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture!” – Jeremiah 23:1

    148. offwiththeirheads Says:

      #146 Mike, unholy means death and Christianity didn’t exist yet.

    149. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Tonka, I wouldn’t want to bear their judgment for everyone they deceived…

    150. TONKA Says:

      #146 Mike… There were no “Christians” then. They were under Mosaic Law. The reason God ordered the slaughter was to eliminate the bloodline that resurfaced from Ham that was carried across the Great Flood from the “sons of God” in Genesis 6 who were the fallen angels (Job 1:6, Job 2:1) who were having sex with the daughters of men, in order to pollute and/or destroy the bloodline from the Lord God (Jesus Christ before He was manifest in the flesh) to Adam, to Seth, etc., to the Lord Jesus Christ.

    151. Dr. No Says:

      I say we quit worrying about Christians, Jews, Freemasons, etc and start worrying about the subject matter of this article. How do we stop this neocon madness that will be the death of us all? I say we launch an all-out exposure of 9/11 as an inside job. NOW!

    152. TONKA Says:

      #150 offwith… Nor would I.

    153. Mike In Austin Says:

      Well, that’s just hunky dory! But NOW we know the commandments. Even Moses knew them BEFORE Jacob. So there you have it. Jacob, the great general on the first opportunity, MURDERED the people of Jerico. Man Woman Child, and Goat. Guess he wasn’t listening to his mentor?

    154. offwiththeirheads Says:

      From what I’ve read from you I don’t believe you will :)

    155. Mike In Austin Says:

      Why would God tell Moses thou shalt not, and then tell Jacob “kill them all”?

    156. TONKA Says:

      #155 Mike… He was ordered by God to do so for the exact reasons I just posted. There are two bloodlines: Seth from Adam, and Cain from the serpent (Genesis 3:15). In order to preserve the bloodline so that Jesus Christ could be manifest in the flesh and be sacrificed so that his blood would wash away our sins, Satan’s lineage had to be sacrificed on the way for us all to allow prophecy to be fulfilled.

    157. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Have to laugh @ that response Mike….in a good way. However, the Law didn’t make anyone sin free (now isn’t that hunky dory) lol

    158. TONKA Says:

      #156 offwith… Thanks :)

    159. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Tonka that is exactly right! I have known and understood that for quite some time

    160. Delila Says:

      Stay on top of this with Irans president Amadjihads own blog!

      http://www.ahmadinejad-mahmoud.blogspot.com/

    161. offwiththeirheads Says:

      You’re welcome, and clearly we have the same knowledge and understanding of the beginning…

    162. offwiththeirheads Says:

      #162 Delila? How do you know it is his?

    163. TONKA Says:

      #161 offwith… Your Spirit sees the Truth of the Scriptures instead of the dogma of man. Bravo! The Lord Jesus Christ stated…

      “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” – Matthew 15:9

    164. Witness Says:

      RED ALERT ITS MISS INFO I HAVE IT ON GOOD SOURCE THIS WILL NOT HAPPENED TILL LATE SEPT OR OCTOBER TRUST ME.
      I CANNOT REVEAL TO YOU MY SOURCE BUT IT IS WAAAAAAY UP THERE.
      THE RUSSIANS ARE ALREADY PREPARED,BUT THERE STRIKE OF RETALIATION WILL BE SO PATHETIC AND CRUED THAT HALF OF THEIR FORCES WILL BE WIPED OUT IN THE MOUNTAINS AND THUS CHINA WHO WAS ALSO PLANNING SUCH AN ATTACK WILL STALL AND HALT ITS ADVANCE AS TO THE HORROR IT SEES THE RUSSIAN FORCES TAKE A MASSIVE DIRECT MULTIPLE TACTICAL MINI NUKES IN THE MOUNTAINS,BELIEVE THEY PLANNED THIS ALL OUT ISREAL IS WELL AWARE OF RUSSIAS INTENTIONS AND THEY HAVE THEIR NUKES READY THIS WILL NOT BE PRETTY AND YES THIS COMING WORLD WAR IS A SHORT ONE BUT MASSIVE IN KILL RATIOS,SO AT THIS MOMENT U THINK IS OVER AND MANY BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE AWAITING THEIR RAPTURE WHICH WILL NEVER COME, THEY BELIEVED THE LIES THEIR PASTORS AND MAINSTREAM CHURCHES THOUGHT THEM AND MANY WILL LOOSE FAITH, AT THIS POINT MANY WILL SEE THE FAKE JESUS COMING DOWN WITH HIS UFO FLEET LOL..AH YES SATAN IS VERY CLEVER HES BEEN PLANNING THIS FOR YEARS WELL THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MAN DOES NOT SEARCH ALL THE SCRIPTURES IF I WHERE U IF U LOVE TRUTH AND HIS WORD LOOK FOR THE BOOK OF ENOCH BEFORE THEY BURN IT OR DO AWAY WITH IT,
      IN IT; IT REVEALS WHO THE UFO’S ARE AND SATANS PLANS AND WHY HE HAS BEEN DOING IT SO CLEAVERLY.
      I KNOW IS A HARD ONE TO SWALLOW ALMOST TO HARD TO BELIEF,BUT IT IS ALL THERE.IT IS SATAN HIMSELF WHO WILL TRICK EVERYONE INTO THINKING HE IS THE CHRIST HE WILL THEN PASS A MARK THE MARK IS THE CROSS ,CAIN WHO WAS ABEL’S BROTHER HAD THAT MARK IT WAS A CURSE DID U ALL FORGET UR GENESIS OH HOW HISTORY ESCAPES US THE CROSS WAS NEVER A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL BUT A CURSE AND MANY KNEW IT EVEN GUESS WHO THE ROMANS YESSS LET IT SINK IN THEY WORE IN THEIR ARMOR CAUSE THEY BELIEVED ANYONE WHO TRIED TO KILL THEM WOULD BE CURSED AS WELL SO THEY SAW THAT CROSS AS SYMBOL OF INVISABILITY THEY HAD IT ON THEIR SHIELDS AND SO ON.
      IT WAS IN THE 1800 THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DEEMED IT AS A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL.SO U SEE THE CROSS IS NOTHING TO GLORIFY OR BE MADE INTO SOME SORT OF SYMBOL FOR CHRIST.AT THIS POINT MANY SO CALLED BORN AGAINS WILL TAKE THIS MARK AND BE DECEIVED AND THOSE WHO WON TAKE IT WILL BE DEEMED AS AN ENEMY TO JESUS AND HERE IT COMES FOLKS”MANY WILL KILL YOU THINKING THEY ARE DOING THE WILL OF GOD”,BUT SO SAD HOW MANY HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE DECEIVED U SEE THIS COMING WAR WILL BE LABELED AS ARMAGEDDON AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE WORD TO SOME EXTENT THOSE OF THE MAINSTREAM CHURCH THOS WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHES WILL CONVINCE THE MASSES THAT THIS IS IT JESUS IS COMING LOL..BUT IT IS NOT HIM.WHEN THIS FAKE JESUS MAKES HIS ENTRANCE THEN COUNT 7 YEARS LEFT TO HIS REIGN CAUSE THATS ALL HE HAS LEFT.MY BROTHERS IN CHRIST BE ALERT DO NOT LET THESE SO CALLED PASTORS DECEIVED U READ FOR YOURSELVES SEARCH HIS WORD MANY NOW CANNOT SAY THEY DO NOT KNOW U ARE COMANDED IN JESUS NAME TO KNOW U MAY NOT KNOW THE HOUR BUT U ARE TO KNOW THE TIMES AND DAYS AND SIGNS GOD IS NOT IGNORANT TO LEAVE U IN THE DARK OR KEEP IT A SECRET HE LOVES YOU ALL TOO MUCH, BUT U HAVE TO BE LOVERS OF TRUTH AND NOT LOVERS OF YOURSELVES, IN THIS WAY HE WILL REVEAL HIS TRUTH TO YOU AS HE HAS DONE TO ME TO WARN YOU ALL, I AM NOT A PERFECT MAN NOONE IS BUT I HAVE PUT MY FEAR OF THE LORD ABOVE ALL THINGS,BECAUSE IT IS WITH THIS THAT WISDOM BEGINS.
      I DO NOT WISH TO INSULT ANYONE IN HERE BUT RATHER OPEN THEIR EYES AND HEART TO THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN WHO LOVES US SO MUCH THAT AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN THE HEAVENS THEIR IS A WAR BEING FOUGHT OVER MANKIND IT IS WHY U SEE UFO CRASHING THESE DEMONS THAT IS WHO THEY ARE.YES A WAR IN HEAVEN WHY DO U THINK THE NASA HAS NOT DARED STEP OUT INTO DEEPER EXPLORATION OF SPACE,CAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN IT, THEY KNOW SOMETHING AMAZING IS HAPPENING AND SOON SATAN IS GOING TO BE BEATEN INTO THIS EARTH WHERE HE WILL BE ALLOWED TO COME AND DECEIVED MANY CAUSE THEY CARE NOT FOR THE TRUTH BUT PERISH IN THEIR LIES.DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU NOW, REST ASSURE EARTH WILL NOT BE THE SAME EVER IF U LOVE THIS WORLD FOR WHAT IT IS U WILL NEVER SEE THE COMING KINGDOM IN HIS KINGDOM U WILL NOT NEED PLAYSTATIONS , TV’S OR ALL THOSE THINGS U LOVED OH MAN IF U ONLY KNEW WHAT GOD HAS PLANNED FOR US U WOULD REJECT THIS WORLD AND IF U KNEW THAT IN THE END IT IS WE WHO WILL JUDGE ALL THOSE THAT ARE EVIL WE WHO TRUSTED IN HIM AND LOVED HIM AND THE TRUTH BUT THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR SOME TO EVEN SWALLOW LOL..I KNOW I WAS SHOCKED MYSELF AND IN TEARS TO KNOW THE HONOR HE WILL GIVE TO THOSE WHO ARE FAITHFUL. THE ROAD FOR A BELIEVER IS NEVER PERFECT IT WASN’T MEANT TO BE.SOME YES WHERE GIVEN A QUICK CHANGE OTHERS WILL NEVER TILL HE RETURNS AND FINISHES THE WORK HE STARTED ON U,BUT REMAIN FAITHFUL EVEN WHEN THE SO CALLED RAPTURE DOES NOT OCCUR LOL..I MEAN COME ON MY FELLOW BELIEVERS NOT ONE NOT ONE NOT EVEN JESUS SPOKE OF IT NO PROPHET NO SCHOLAR THIS WAS THROWN IN THEIR BY WHO ELSE DRUM ROLL PLSSS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THE BEAST THE RELIGIOUS BEAST.NOW U KNOW THE TRUTH
      TAKE CARE ALL BE BLESSED AND AGAIN I MEAN NOT TO OFFENED ANYONE BUT RATHER OPEN UR EYES TO THE REAL TRUTH U FEEL IN UR HEARTS.
      BUT DON’T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT READIT LOOK SEARCH FOR YOUR OWN SELVES.

    165. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Tonka, it is a blessing to have your eyes opened with the truth, and to be given that wisdom.

    166. TONKA Says:

      #166… I have studied and you’e not wrong. But the word “rapture” is not in the Bible. The terms used are “resurrection” and “harvest”.

      Secondly, the resurrection will occur on the last day of tribulation, not the first. But God bless to you for figuring alot of it out. Peace.

    167. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Witness, I have read a few parts of Enoch in my search for the truth. And by the way? Have you heard of or read any of the Book of Thomas. For some ufo reason, it was also left out…

    168. TONKA Says:

      #167 offwith… It is a blessing indeed. And I thank God every day for opening my eyes. I would rather know the Truth than go through my life like an ostrich with its head in the sand.

    169. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Tonka, that makes 3 of us…

    170. TONKA Says:

      #171 offwith… The ultimate awakening is to the Truth of God. It is happening now. Unfortunately, and as prophesied, many more are slipping into the delusion of the darkness, as prophesied. If we can’t even wake people up to 911, how is it possible to awaken them to the Truth? I believe all things are possible, but that is not what the Bible prophesies to occur.

    171. TONKA Says:

      In other words it is God’s will – not man’s. But, we all have free will to choose our side.

    172. ItsMike Says:

      Not that I want to nitpick, but Joseph Paul Watson has been reporting that “George Bush is on the verge of bombing Iran” since 2004.

    173. TONKA Says:

      offwith…

      Book of Poetry

      Placed in the corner of an old bookshelf
      covered with cobwebs and dust from the years
      forgotten prose near Shakespeare and Poe
      lay a book of poetry bound in black leather

      Authored by One through the quills of many
      ancient writings within guilded pages
      the Sword of Light passed down through the ages

      Published for those who believe and rejoice
      the end of the world’s satanic devise
      a promise to those who make the wise choice;
      eternal life by the grace of Christ

      Pray for the people who pled to not know
      the Word of God in the Bible they owned
      never once read by their eyes now dead…

      trembling where they go

      - Steven John Hibbs 2002 (TONKA)

    174. TONKA Says:

      #174… I’ve been saying it since 2002. But it doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen. It will. And all hell will break loose when it does. God help us all. Peace and God bless.

    175. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Free will is exactly right and having it in sync with the soul leads us to the Light!

    176. Elisha Says:

      Glory to our Lord Jesus Christ for it is by the power of the Holy Spirit – The One True God that we have the same one-mindedness that He promised to those who sincerely seek Him… we are surrendered and know our need for Him… and so He delights in filling us with the Holy Spirit! I have my local congregations against me because they want their ears tickled with the “rapture” rather than truly looking at Scripture… yet the local synogogues are being humbled that they can’t boast about earning their eternal lives…hmmm… the Holy Spirit now guides us in His word and so we understand the so-called “deeper truths” such as the rapture is B.S. and that these trials are for us to endure, build character and bear the fruit of His holiness because we know , in the end, our lives are eternal so why not give ourselves completely to living in His will and by His strength, for His glory… may He delight in us, brothers and sisters in Christ!

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    178. TONKA Says:

      #178 Elisha… Amen and God bless.

    179. Mike In Austin Says:

      174
      ItsMike , have you ever listened to Linsay Williams’ The Oil non-crisis? OF COURSE he has been planning it! But By GW I mean IMF, WORLD BANK. GW is a puppet. A puppet. A puppet.

    180. larry Says:

      Elisha, problem is, the world is being sent to hell in a hand basket by a bunch of crazed psychopaths who share the very same beliefs you do. Christian fanatical murderous scum bags are trying their best to bring a biblical prophesy into fruiting and are helped by zionist child killers. If one thing thats not needed right now is to invoke the source of all this evil, the bible.

    181. TONKA Says:

      #182 larry… These “psychopaths” you speak of are not true Christians. They are imposters in the secret societies and Zionist’s. The real Christians with discernment from the Holy Spirit are not responsible for the evil in this world. Nor is the Bible. It is those who purposely misinterpret the Bible and mislead their flocks who are Christian Zionist’s, or Luciferians, that are the enemy. Let’s get it straight.

    182. TONKA Says:

      #183 “…they are the enemy.” (typo)

    183. Elisha Says:

      Sorry, larry, you can’t convince me of the Bible being evil because my heart and mind have been changed by the very Spirit that inspired it… I am free because I know nobody can take away my daily experience of unexplainable peace and joy that comes only from enjoying a personal, intimate relationship with our creator and Saviour, aka the 2nd Adam for though we sin, we are forgiven, the Lord Jesus Christ… checkout nephilim and nibiru, tie it together with underground military and why they want our population down to 500 million before you judge me as a fanatic… 2012 is coming too soon to be sucking our thumb hoping the fanatics will die and the world can return to mediocre, status-quo politically-correct blind and deafness.

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    185. TONKA Says:

      #185 Elisha… Bravo again.

    186. Mike In Austin Says:

      183 TONKA, thank you for that. In it’s essence, the bible is for the benevolent, not for the tricksters of this world. What is right is apparent, and what is wrong attempts to cloud it over.

    187. TONKA Says:

      #188 Mike… Peace and God bless brother.

    188. offwiththeirheads Says:

      Good night Tonka and keep up your good work. We will chat soon :)
      God Bless

    189. TONKA Says:

      #190 offwith… Good night. Peace and God bless in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. No Fear!

    190. Tom Sawyer Says:

      all of today’s christians stem from rome, meaning from constantine in his donation to and acceptance of christianity. he assimilated a load of mithraisism, greco-roman mythos, emperor worship, egyptian mythos, and whatever else was lying around in the bargain bin of faith.

      all splits early on were violently squashed, all heresies were wiped out violently. the church melded with the state and christianity was injected with dogma that doesn’t stem from the original faith. it wasn’t until splits in orthodoxy, and later when the Rosicrucian Martin Luther, were allowed varying degrees of authorization.

      All of today’s Christian sects can trace their lineage back to a split faction, which ties them to rome. If they are adhering to a form of gnosis, it means some kind of mysticism or paganism is inherent.

      also j-o-v-e has parallels with yaweh. j is interchangeable with y, and w with v. vowels were never the same from tongue to tongue, so they are therefore interchangeable, too. that is also why we imagine god as a big angry man with a long white beard in a toga.

    191. bobby Says:

      I hope Bushy and his boy Cheney the mad strangler don’t bomb Iran but thats sure a good way to get oil to 200 a barrel like the elite wants and our gas 10 – 15 dollars a gallon..damn how much more of this shit will America take?

    192. Tom Sawyer Says:

      bobby, we ‘re going to take it til we break, and they will be ready for us.

    193. TONKA Says:

      #194 Tom… Again, you are wrong. It is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ by his grace that you are saved, and thus a true Christian. Not the dogma you regurgitate.

      “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” – Matthew 15:9

    194. TONKA Says:

      #195 was actually directed to #192.

    195. PNW Outback Says:

      #192 Tom Sawyer is CORRECT. All Christian roads lead to Rome and the abomination of the Council of Nicea in 322-323 where the “Bible” was composed for the express purpose of melding Messianic Judaism with Roman Paganism to create Christianity. Messianic Judaism spread like wild fire throughout the Roman Empire and by 322 had become a serious threat to the bankrupt Roman Empire. Constantine used the age old Roman technique of assimilation and conversion to Paganism. By the 600’s all semblance of the true message of the Messiah Jesus was gone and the “Roman Christians” were practicing a veiled version of Paganism (aka Satanism)…as they still do today. The Lutheran “reformation” was just another corralling of the truth to maintain control of the Empire. This is why ALL versions of Christianity break the FIRST Commandment and worship Idols.

    196. Tom Sawyer Says:

      tonka, i believe against all rational thought that white jesus with blonde hair and blue is coming through the clouds at some designated time to wisk away he faithful. i also believe that i will be a goat at that last day. that is the sum of my indoctrination.

    197. Tom Sawyer Says:

      i will say, jesus was awesome.

    198. TONKA Says:

      #197 PNW… I don’t worship any version of Christianity. The word Christian was used and written by Peter (I Peter 4:16) and Paul (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28) nearly three hundred years before the Council of Nicea. Peace and God bless in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    199. Wesley J Says:

      i promise all of you, Bush will not strike Iran in August. Alex’s information is wrong, as it usually is. How come you people still believe all this nonsense? Just wait and see…..and what pathetic excuuse will you have then? Really, when August comes and Bush doesn’t strike Iran are you still going to believe in Alex Jones? Just wait and see you paranoid sheep……just wait and see.

    200. Tom Sawyer Says:

      but why do we call this “lord” and “king” these titles? it is because the concept was hijacked by aristocracy. they attached their own titles to a very poor man. i could imagine the real jesus very very perturbed by such titles.

    201. Tom Sawyer Says:

      i will weep openly and tear my garments when the strike doesn’t happen.

    202. TONKA Says:

      #202 Tom… Believe what you like, sir. I will pray for you that the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to the Truth of His Light. In the mean time, you may want to go back and read my previous posts. I don’t have the time or energy right now to go through all this once again tonight. You may also want to actually read the Bible to understand what it says, rather than believing the programmed academia. You have been raised on myths and you still believe them. Peace and God bless.

    203. PNW Outback Says:

      #200 Tonka…your buddy Saul (aka Paul) was a Roman TAX collector and those “books” were written well after the council of nicea. The council collected all the various “Gospels” being passed around by the poor people of the Roman Empire (Messianic Judaic Converts) and threw out the ones that were not easily paganized. The two most popular gospels of that time were the Gospel of Mary (mother of Jesus) and the gospel of Judas which were subsequently banned in the Empire on penalty of death. Why do you think there aren’t 12 gospels? Why do you think the chapter after the gospels is called ROMANS? Why do you call Jesus LORD when the FIRST Commandment says there is only ONE LORD?

      Anyway all these questions will be settled on the Great Day of Judgment when all will be called to answer for their deeds.

    204. PNW Outback Says:

      #201 Wesley J…the above article is a REPRINT from Asia Times Online!!! Alex Jones DID NOT WRITE IT.

    205. Tom Sawyer Says:

      thanks, tonka, and i’ll do the same for you.

    206. TONKA Says:

      #205 PNW… There is no point in debating with you. Regardless of what I say or write you will undoubtedly have some clever rebuttal veiled in half-truths and honed for centuries by the so-called Roman “church” for exactly this purpose.

      In response to your last statement… Indeed we all will. Good night.

    207. PNW Outback Says:

      #208 Tonka…All I can say is READ Deuteronomy AGAIN…it’s all laid out in the Last Book of Moses which expressly warns against joining gods with GOD and representing God with symbols (the cross, fish etc.). Anything that doesn’t jive with what is written in Deuteronomy is NOT of God. Also I would not put faith in a god who suddenly changed the rules 2000 years ago and made the 10 Commandments null and void. That my friend is the crux of the scam.

    208. Lal Wynstrom Says:

      This could be disinformation deliberately put out to mislead the public, Iran, and other nations. I would not count on an attack by August since the unpopularity of such an attack is still high in the American mind and around the world. I would also wonder what our intelligence sources on the ground in Iran are telling the administration about Iran’s ability to resist such attack, and if they are saying we are ready or not to do so. Thirdly, what kind of political pressure could the current administration, its capital mostly spent in int’l diplomacy, broker with the UN in order to attack Iran.

      Recall from previous years that, despite all the strongarm rhetoric to the contrary, the Bush Administration attacked Afghanistan and waged further aggressive war against the Iraq with the blessing of the United Nations.

      Such blessing has not yet been granted here. At least not publicly.

    209. My2Cents Says:

      All you religious zealots are completely brainwashed. You people argue post after post about absolutely NOTHING. You claim to be “Christians” yet can’t agree on anything. Do you people know how naive and ignorant you sound?? Religion and politics are cut from the same cloth. For centuries, they both have been used to manipulate and control the masses. How can you be against one, yet promote another?? ALL religious texts were written and translated by MEN. For what reason?? To divide humanity. You people play into that each and everyday. Anyone who actually believes you have to buy into religion and its texts to know and experience God in their lives, has a simple and narrow mind.

    210. Peyton Says:

      The attack on Iran simply wont happen for a long time if at all, if they planned to attack in AUG, there would be a large amount of warships off the iranian coast, the U.S is tied up in Iraq and Bush knows he cannot afford to make such a huge mistake at this point, striking Iran would be a nightmare for Bush and he knows it

    211. Dan Says:

      When and if it happens it happens.

      But give the Iran War will start any day now bull shit a damn rest.

      It’s been going on for 4 years.

      enough already.

      If it happens it happens.

      But as to these constant articles for 4 years straight that a war on Iran is days away, just seems like a PSY OP to me.

      So give it a rest.

      13*

    212. Robert Says:

      If Bush attacks Iran, it will weaken our economy and our military if Iran declared war. The government would resort to conscription to make up for soldiers lost in Iraq. With Bush being crazy and idiotic, he probably would make such a drastic decision.

    213. Gator Says:

      I’m not thinking about attacking Iran, because I know it won’t happen….period. Just go gas up your car, you’ll see why. Oh, keep in mind, those ships need a lot of oil too ! And not to forget, when you flip your light on at home, the switch on the wall is made from oil too….as well as the light bulb…..and the electric wiring, and the power plant….especially that Turkey you’re cooking in the oven….Oh, and the oven too. Don’t forget, the shoes on your feet….yup, from Oil.

    214. zxc Says:

      Pfff If bush declares war on IRAN American people will overthrow the governments in seconds. It will never happen. Bush failed his mission.

    215. James McDonough Says:

      Lindsey williams ( videos on you tube ) says since Bush, and Cheney are both BIG OIL, it only makes economic sense for them to attack. THEY WILL PROFIT LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

    216. TheGirlWhoListens.....from CACA-fornia Says:

      pnw and tom sawyer

      despite your long-winded spewing of religious history, philology, and customs
      you still haven’t figured out that true Christianity has nothing to do with religions.
      Jesus never voided the 10 commandments. The first five – man’s relationship
      to God, the last five – man’s relationship to man. Jesus summed them up in
      the new testament two commandments, which if you stop and think about
      it are the summation of the ten. Your points – pure crap.

    217. TheGirlWhoListens.....from CACA-fornia Says:

      211 your2 cents are worth only that. the bible is not a religion. you have a small mind.

    218. draftdodger Says:

      212 peyton your a fuckin idiot……they already have 2 aircraft carriers………..ONE IS GOERGE BUSH SENIORS AIRCRAFT CARRIER……….YOU DIP SHIT……SO HWAT BETTER ONE TO USE IT JUST GOT CHRISTENED IN 07 OR 06 CAN’T REMEMBER…………DUH YOU FUCKIN ZEALOT RETARD THEY’VE GOT TWO THERE REPEAT 2222222222222222222222222222…………………….YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKIN STUPID……I THINK 211 IS SO FUCKIN RIGHT

    219. Fontasia Says:

      The Bible is God’s instruction for us. It accounts the history of God’s relationship to man to prove and remind us of His love, intentions, motivations. It is a religion in the way that the word “religion” means “way of life” – because it tells us how we should live. It is not a religion in terms of what dogma men create, as is created within such religions as the Roman Catholic religion, i.e. There should be two words to describe what we call “religion” because there is a way of life for all of us, and there are also -conversely- institutions that tell us how we should live. I find the Bible to be God’s own words, so we don’t need man’s unless inspired by God.

      A Christian is simply a “follower of Christ”. If one does not subscribe to the direct teachings of Christ, then I don’t consider that person a Christian no matter what they call themselves. “Christian” has also been a term duplicitously used to classify certain institutions, which may or may not support true Christianity.

      This all becomes confusing when the truth is politicized. Otherwise, it is simple.

      Yet there is the Word without all these words.

      My father used to read the Bible profusely. At the onset of later stages of Alzheimer’s, and in reading the story of the nativity to him, he uttered the most words he could: “Too many words.”

      We are all faithless, and so we need the Bible to instruct. But true faith needs no words. Because if we believe we are in God’s hands, then we don’t need proof of his love, intentions and motivations.

      The people here who look at things from a spiritual perspective do so because they are trying to reason out the meaning behind all this. There IS a spiritual element to this; in fact, that is all there is behind it. It is, in every story we see here, in the fight between the little people and the big corporations, in the global elite vs. the people, a good versus evil. And while we may have to endure hardships in our lifetime, we know the outcome as good always prevails, as the Bible tells us so.

      So let those who are comforted by the Bible, be comforted by the Bible.

    220. Cracker Joe Says:

      Bush can do whatever he wants. It’s clear congress will not stand up to him.
      Nor will the people.
      Nor will the media.

      A little thing like the Constitution should prevent this petty tyrant from going to war,
      but since congress, bush, and the media act like there is no constitution, bush can do
      what he wants.

      The people? They will not wake up until it’s too late—if then.

    221. citizen Says:

      I think this is hard to predict because of the “green light” stuff. Can only predict about 1 week out.

    222. Debunker Says:

      Your absolutly right 223#

      To accually think GOD is sitting up high deciding which nation he will bless and win a war in his name is beyond absurd. ALL religion has lost what it was ment to achieve. God doesn’t want anyone to pick up arms and fight for him and kill people in his name , becoming a ( martyr ) which is a heap of crap. God doesn’t want anyone to die for him. We are as insignificant as a grain of sand to god. In a whim he could do anything he wanted. (for the athiests out there) If he’s real, being a diety and all.

      The message of the lord isn’t kill thy enemy in my name like im a incompitent god who cant kill his own enemy. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ! Im sick of religion due to the fact the Pope, the Arch Bishop the Cleric leaders of Islam , ALL CLERGY of ALL religions , except maybe Pagan,Sumerian religions where EYE for and EYE is ever prevelant. But these leaders preach Oh love thy enemy , Love thy god care for 1 another etc… These bastards who are in control of religion dont practice what they preach. If they did then the Cleric Leaders , Pope , Arch Bishop , Dahli Lama etc would all gather and talk about the message of god and how its not kill one another but LOVE one another. Help with the twisted minds of people across the globe. But of course close minded stupid people haven’t put 2+2 together yet and accually think that Islams GOD is different that Christians god and that in turn is different than Buddha. They all worship the same GOD just different names and different parables of his chosen son , apostle or prophet all because of the different culture. Im done rambling so let the fools scream at me and tell me im a idiot. Wont be the first time. And if your an atheist who is about to scream at me….. Next time a friend dies, relative look them in the eye tell them there is no god its only darkness and silence in death. Enjoy the afterlife. I love you.

    223. klc Says:

      Debunker Says:
      >>>To accually think GOD is sitting up high deciding which nation he will bless and win a war in his name is beyond absurd. <<>>The message of the lord isn’t kill thy enemy in my name like im a incompitent god who cant kill his own enemy.<<<

      hehehe yeah god supposedly made heaven and earth in 7 days, but can’t kill his own enemy??? :confused:

      hahahahah

    224. klc Says:

      my message in #27 thats NOT WHAT I TYPED

      the hahahah at the end is supposed to have something afterwards and be near the front of the message

      is someone censoring our posts?

    225. WHAT? Says:

      The thing Iran should do is to absorb the strike and prepare to take Bush and Cheney to the world court. I do not support the NWO and the elite world order but they should consider using their system against them.
      Bush will most like go on trial after he leaves office anyway.
      I detest the NWO and world court but it may be worth using their system against some of them.

    226. abram cohen Says:

      Iran must be blown off the face of this earth asap. The safety of our ally depends on it and if the USA does not intervene, this is no different to when the world abandoned the jews in WW2 to be slaughtered by Nazis. If bush doesnt have the balls, mccain does. And obama’s days are numbered, so he can just go to hell.

    227. Ranger Says:

      Meh, no offense, but alex has called a strike on iran like every 3 months for the last 3 years. It never happens. So Im not going to continue to speculate, if it happens, it does. Sure there isnt a single thing just about anyone could do to stop it.
      And Top Sources? Alex had the CIA guy on 2 years ago that said he knew it was 100% That they will attack before Xmas…..and now its almost June. The people that know whats going to happen, arent going to say anything until it does happen.

    228. michelle l. Says:

      Republicans are warning Iranians to keep quiet about those deals they made during the Hostage Crisis and Carter Administration.

    229. Peter North Says:

      The only feasible way that Bush and associates (including the Zionist warmongers) can justify any military action against the Islamic Republic is by staging another false flag operation similar to the events of September 11th, 2001. In fact, it shouldn’t be a fallacy to assert that a controlled-nuclear explosion targeting a major US city might be the most adequate choice to rationalize such course of action. Moreover, these idiots need to link the ongoing controversy about Iran’s nuclear program with any terrorist attack on US soil; of course, this attack will be blamed on the CIA-sponsored terrorist group called Al-Qaeda that coincidently was working with elements of the IRCG -then the brute and ignorant American populace will demand a prompt retaliation against the alleged perpetrators of this egregious event. Without this essential prerequisite it is really impossible for the Bush administration and the Zionist regime to go any further.

    230. abram cohen Says:

      I think alex jones has schizophrenia, he changes his views every other week.

    231. Cracker Joe Says:

      Ah, every time somebody needs some cash they they put out this Iran stuff…
      ride the price of oil up, sell, and take profits while the rest of us are stacking
      canned hams in the garage…

      OH how I laugh.

    232. Cracker Joe Says:

      234,

      Now if Alex were to start screaming about

      “jello spies crossing out our eyes with combs of pork!”

      then I would agree, Alex has problems, but outside of his hysteria
      and tendency to yell over top of his guests,
      he’s done more good than bad…and he can cook a mean chicken.

    233. Eyes wide shut Says:

      Talk about brain washed, what an idiot.
      This moron probably wouldn’t be able to hit Iran on the map even it he threw a basketball at it.
      YOU ARE A JOKE. hahaha

      ______________________________________________
      abram cohen Says:
      May 28th, 2008 at 10:12 am

      Iran must be blown off the face of this earth asap. The safety of our ally depends on it and if the USA does not intervene, this is no different to when the world abandoned the jews in WW2 to be slaughtered by Nazis. If bush doesnt have the balls, mccain does. And obama’s days are numbered, so he can just go to hell.

    234. Dr. No Says:

      It’s probably true that all these endless warnings of an imminent attack on Iran are just hype intended to drive the price of oil up. Even so, that does not excuse them – this is costing all of us BIG TIME!

    235. PNW Outback Says:

      233 Peter North Says:

      “The only feasible way that Bush and associates (including the Zionist warmongers) can justify any military action against the Islamic Republic is by staging another false flag operation similar to the events of September 11th, 2001.”

      WRONG!!! They have already “justified” this attack in their own little minds since they will be attacking the Quds force which has already been designated a “terrorist organization” by the Whores in Congress. Also you really need to watch some Israeli TV News which states everyday as FACT that “Iran has a nuclear bomb and will use it on Israel” and that “Iran has supplied weapons to the terrorists who threaten Israel”.

    236. abram cohen Says:

      #239, Also you really need to watch some Israeli TV News which states everyday as FACT that “Iran has a nuclear bomb and will use it on Israel” and that “Iran has supplied weapons to the terrorists who threaten Israel”.
      _____________________________

      Don’t argue with facts, you anti-semitic piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!

    237. Cracker Joe Says:

      Dr.No 238,

      There is NO excuse. What makes it especially troubling is that the “greed fiends”
      are laughing and rubbing their hands together as this country
      goes down in flames.

    238. Roger Says:

      Some people associate Alex Jones with entire network :) Hahaha Alex does not endorse every single article and evry single view , He is a host . Network makes money on fear and greed
      They are not any different from so called oppressors of the mankind .

      I look at Alex Jones as Barabas of New Age :) As He truly is Barabas

    239. Somebody Says:

      NEWS …President Bush supporting global communist domination

      Posted: January 07, 2005
      1:00 am Eastern . By Devvy Kidd 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

      http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i…..geId=28360

    240. PNW Outback Says:

      #240
      abram cohen Says:

      “Don’t argue with facts, you anti-semitic piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!”

      Umm I READ MY Torah EVERYDAY…when was the last time you READ YOURS?

    241. Ranger Says:

      For some fun:
      http://tooshocking.com/view-41.....e%20Idiots

      You guys will laugh your asses off on the Iran part.
      They make Iran, Australia, and ask people who they should attack next, rofl, its pretty funny, but then again, to see how stupid some people are, its clearly shows the issues we face in exposing many truths. Some people are morons!! My 6 year old knows more then these people.

    242. Somebody Says:

      THE PROPER ROLE OF AMERICA’S MILITARY
      By: Devvy July 27, 2004 NewsWithViews.com

      http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd52.htm

    243. Cracker Joe Says:

      Iran is not going to hit Israel with a nuke.
      First of all, they don’t have a nuke.
      Second, Israel would turn Iran into the largest glass plate in history.
      Third, aw who cares?

    244. Cracker Joe Says:

      Roger # 242,

      Does this mean you’re not gonna send money to the Money BomB ?

    245. abram cohen Says:

      I was just listening to alex jones’s show and he said, GW bush is a crackhead, AHAHAHAHAHAAAHAA BAHAHAHAHAH

    246. Cracker Joe Says:

      249 Abram Cohen,

      That is funny! Alex is a rascal.

    247. Act of State Says:

      GCN needs higher standards for the quality of the ads . . . Another untold story and Hemp USA feature a bad singer with an out of tune guitar and go on forever . . the network should have some standards . . i’m not suggesting filtering content but going from Alex interviewing the number 2 Japanese congressman to a guy singing about eating hemp is counter productive. You can say the show and the network are different, but they are heard as one thing by listeners, especially new listeners.

    248. Jman Says:

      I Agree with you AoS about the ads on GCN. It’s a discredit to Alex Jones’ cause and show to have some of those ads airing with it. Anyone listening for the first time could easily dismiss whatever was said on the show as just crazy “conspiracy theory” when there are real issues and well informed guests on during the program. Although I have heard Alex on numerous occasions say that he has no control over the ads and does not endorse any of them unless one hears his voice in the ad.

    249. Barry Manion Says:

      Hey #240 Abram Cohen do you actually think that the American Media Whores are the only ones who lie like rugs about what the touted enemy has as weapons and what the intentions are. Haven’t you yet heard that they found absolutely NO “weapons of mass destruction POINTED AT ISRAEL to be used in a response against any U.S./U.K. attack” as was reported not only by the U.S. T.V. news talking heads, and this effluent was also spouted by the ISRAELI talking heads! So they were lying then but definitely not now right? Grow up seriously! So on that point does it mean that Ehud Olmert is innocent or guilty of corruption? Is the Israeli media speaking the truth on this issue at this point or is it more propaganda like the WMDs point at Israel in the ready to use when Iraq was attacked by U.S./U.K.?

      Modern Israel has as much blood on their hands as those they accuse of attacking it in response to Israel’s bloodying of their noses. The overt threat attributed to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about “Israel needing to be wiped off the map” was shown to be a mistranslation, likely intentional, by more than one journalist that speak Farsi and some of them were Israeli. He actually stated that the regime, the corrupted and manipulative thieves that run the government like those in the nations allied to Israel leading the Middle East and the rest of the world, like the Pied Piper, to war, need to be wiped of the face of the earth.

    250. neon Says:

      hemp will keep people alive as it has done for centuries..it truly is super-food.

      great sponsor.

    251. Rob Says:

      A Sensible Path on Iran
      By Zbigniew Brzezinski and William Odom
      Tuesday, May 27, 2008; Page A13 Washington Post

      Current U.S. policy toward the regime in Tehran will almost certainly result in an Iran with nuclear weapons. The seemingly clever combination of the use of “sticks” and “carrots,” including the frequent official hints of an American military option “remaining on the table,” simply intensifies Iran’s desire to have its own nuclear arsenal. Alas, such a heavy-handed “sticks” and “carrots” policy may work with donkeys but not with serious countries. The United States would have a better chance of success if the White House abandoned its threats of military action and its calls for regime change.

      Consider countries that could have quickly become nuclear weapon states had they been treated similarly. Brazil, Argentina and South Africa had nuclear weapons programs but gave them up, each for different reasons. Had the United States threatened to change their regimes if they would not, probably none would have complied. But when “sticks” and “carrots” failed to prevent India and Pakistan from acquiring nuclear weapons, the United States rapidly accommodated both, preferring good relations with them to hostile ones. What does this suggest to leaders in Iran?

      To look at the issue another way, imagine if China, a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a country that has deliberately not engaged in a nuclear arms race with Russia or the United States, threatened to change the American regime if it did not begin a steady destruction of its nuclear arsenal. The threat would have an arguable legal basis, because all treaty signatories promised long ago to reduce their arsenals, eventually to zero. The American reaction, of course, would be explosive public opposition to such a demand. U.S. leaders might even mimic the fantasy rhetoric of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regarding the use of nuclear weapons.

      A successful approach to Iran has to accommodate its security interests and ours. Neither a U.S. air attack on Iranian nuclear facilities nor a less effective Israeli one could do more than merely set back Iran’s nuclear program. In either case, the United States would be held accountable and would have to pay the price resulting from likely Iranian reactions. These would almost certainly involve destabilizing the Middle East, as well as Afghanistan, and serious efforts to disrupt the flow of oil, at the very least generating a massive increase in its already high cost. The turmoil in the Middle East resulting from a preemptive attack on Iran would hurt America and eventually Israel, too.

      Given Iran’s stated goals — a nuclear power capability but not nuclear weapons, as well as an alleged desire to discuss broader U.S.-Iranian security issues — a realistic policy would exploit this opening to see what it might yield. The United States could indicate that it is prepared to negotiate, either on the basis of no preconditions by either side (though retaining the right to terminate the negotiations if Iran remains unyielding but begins to enrich its uranium beyond levels allowed by the Non-Proliferation Treaty); or to negotiate on the basis of an Iranian willingness to suspend enrichment in return for simultaneous U.S. suspension of major economic and financial sanctions.

      Such a broader and more flexible approach would increase the prospects of an international arrangement being devised to accommodate Iran’s desire for an autonomous nuclear energy program while minimizing the possibility that it could be rapidly transformed into a nuclear weapons program. Moreover, there is no credible reason to assume that the traditional policy of strategic deterrence, which worked so well in U.S. relations with the Soviet Union and with China and which has helped to stabilize India-Pakistan hostility, would not work in the case of Iran. The widely propagated notion of a suicidal Iran detonating its very first nuclear weapon against Israel is more the product of paranoia or demagogy than of serious strategic calculus. It cannot be the basis for U.S. policy, and it should not be for Israel’s, either.

      An additional longer-range benefit of such a dramatically different diplomatic approach is that it could help bring Iran back into its traditional role of strategic cooperation with the United States in stabilizing the Gulf region. Eventually, Iran could even return to its long-standing and geopolitically natural pre-1979 policy of cooperative relations with Israel. One should note also in this connection Iranian hostility toward al-Qaeda, lately intensified by al-Qaeda’s Web-based campaign urging a U.S.-Iranian war, which could both weaken what al-Qaeda views as Iran’s apostate Shiite regime and bog America down in a prolonged regional conflict.

      Last but not least, consider that American sanctions have been deliberately obstructing Iran’s efforts to increase its oil and natural gas outputs. That has contributed to the rising cost of energy. An eventual American-Iranian accommodation would significantly increase the flow of Iranian energy to the world market. Americans doubtless would prefer to pay less for filling their gas tanks than having to pay much more to finance a wider conflict in the Persian Gulf.

    252. shahin Says:

      COME JOIN US!

      Started a community over IRC which infowarriors can meet up and discuss info instantly. The channel is #deprogram and you can connect by going to http://www.efnet.org and adding the channel/nick clicking connet =)

      Our website can be found @ http://www.dprogram.wordpress.com

      We’re up night and day and have around 40+- people in the channel at all times. Come chat with us and add your thoughts.

    253. Charles Bronson Says:

      I’ll be honest, I rolled my eyes when I saw the headline for this article. Last month there was an article on here saying May was supposed to be the month we attacked Iran. Well May has come and is about gone and still nothing. I’m not saying we’re not going to attack Iran, all I’m saying is the sources on this site when it pertains to Iran are clearly not very credible and it’s starting to get annoying. I think they’re articles would be more relevent if they kept the dates out of them and just talked about issues concerning the potential attack on Iran.

    254. Blunt Force Trauma Says:

      And once again here’s an article that will get swept under the proverbial ‘mainstream media rug’ since it is easier for them to be complicit and to tell the ‘American Idol’ mouth-breathing public that it is necessary to attack Iran.

      From Tuesday, May 27th, 2008;

      IAEA: No N-weaponization found in Iran

      http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a.....=351020104

    255. Life Says:

      #257 My bet is they are waiting until after the Irish referendum on Europe, If the vote is no then the Union is thrown into chaos once again and they will be way off track in securing the global control they require to ensure the war goes as they are planning….

    256. Isaac_Newton_g=9.8m/s2... Says:

      Roger
      you are too smart
      do not let them perceive it from you
      you should be in dengerous
      take care

      Isaac sending to you a hi 5

    257. John thomas Says:

      You have GOT to be kidding me. Aren’t we WASTING enough money in Iraq? The US is literally falling apart at the seams and this Dictator, War Monger Bush just wont be happy until the entire country is in complete RUINS. Impeach this MORON now before its too late. Ship him to Iraq and make him answer for his Crimes Against Humanity.

      JJ
      http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

    258. Isaac_Newton_g=9.8m/s2... Says:

      John thomas

      they just hate America that is why

    259. Blunt Force Trauma Says:

      …and over at Raw Story…

      Senators say report of planned US strikes on Iran untrue

      http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0528.html

    260. NWO-AGENT Says:

      Oh no I forgot to bring my Tin Foil Hat for this meeting.

      I wouldn’t want the NWO to start spying on me.. oh wait I forgot ..

      I AM ONE OF THEM.

    261. shahin Says:

      hey infowarriors!

      I’m part of a community over IRC and were trying to get people involved with us and to utilize the instant chat. We have over 40 people daily/nightly in the channel talking about all the above issues. We also have a website ->
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      Has great info and enourmous amounts of videos(perfect for newbees and well organized)

      You can join our chat through your browser and you can find the link on our website.

      Lets unite!

    262. TheGirlWhoListens.....from CACA-fornia Says:

      #142
      Tonka Jesus is from the tribe of Juda(h) Luke 3:23-38
      Rev 5:5 Lion of the tribe of Juda

    263. bob Says:

      vote for change, vote for obama!

      mccain is a warmonger scumbag.

    264. Dr. No Says:

      I think all these rumblings of War with Iran for the past 3+ years are nothing more than excuses to keep oil prices sky high, a situation that would benefit the Bush/Cheney oil-soaked crime families to no end. I say they should be indicted for commodity market manipulation. What better position would a price manipulator be in than to be head of state of the world’s strongest military threatening combat in the most strategically important (for energy) region on the planet? That’s their game. They just park carrier groups in the Persian Gulf, and while everybody sweats what they’re going to do next, they are quietly raking in hundreds of billions in oil profits. They issue press releases every couple of weeks to scare everybody and keep the price climbing ever upward.

      Meanwhile, us peons are paying out the nose for this outrageous scam.

    265. My2Cents Says:

      @TheGirlWhoISA MORON

      You said “the bible is not a religion”. How moronic can one human being be?? Of course the bible is religion. The bible, along with other religious texts, are the main TOOLS of all religious faiths. MAN created both. Moreover, you said “Jesus summed them up in the new testament”. First off, Jesus had nothing to do with the bible PERIOD. The new testament was written decades after him. Secondly, it sounds like the only person with a small mind is YOU. Next time you reply to someone, make sure you know what the hell you’re talking about.

    266. ╬ www.911truth.ch ╬ Says:

      Letters from Swiss truth split movement 911truth.ch/11 septembre demand for my dis-asociation for blowing the whistle on the partial alarm of police and media:

      Bonjour Fernando, Suite à la réunion avec Julie Franco et Florian Gross jeudi 21.5 en soirée,
      je t’informe que notre association ne tient pas à donner suite à ta demande d’interpellation
      de notre part des médias au sujet des menaces d’attentats. Les médias suisses ont abondamment couvert le sujet.
      De plus nous te demandons de retirer immédiatement de ton site http://www.911truth.ch et jusqu’à nouvel ordre toutes
      mentions de notre association, que ce soit sous son nom “le 11 septembre en question” ou
      les adresses internet de notre site (www.11septembre.ch ou http://www.reopen911.ch
      ).
      Nous souhaitons marquer notre désapprobation envers le caractère agressif et extrémist
      de ta campagne qui décrédibilise à notre sens le mouvement global demandant la réouverture
      d’une enquête sur les événements liés au 11 septembre 2001.
      Salutations distinguées Richard Golay Président de l’association
      “Le 11 septembre en question” Ing. dipl. EPFL http://www.11septembre.ch
      Fixe: +41 (0)21 729 02 62 Mobile: +41 (0)76 414 29 41 Skype: rigolay
      P Avant d’imprimer cet email, réfléchissez à l’impact sur l’environnement, merci

      –911truth.ch
      Hello Richard,
      My website, under the Swiss law guarantees, is legitimate and I can
      do as I please, however I then choose to agree and also
      to remove your links because I can claim that your statement:
      “Les médias suisses ont abondamment couvert le sujet.” is not only a half truth, but an echo of the partial side of such coverage where blaiming
      “Al-Qaida” is not only stupid and irresponsible but in my opinion, borders in complicity.

      Regardless, your accusation of the understood probability of “copycats attempting something”, well, that should be covered by our police; or rather
      our new corporate(”unacountable” moral person) private security anyway, and
      none can control that “even in 42 Nazi Germany Police State”, ask any historian or police officer unless ” you lobotomize of all the crazies!?”.
      But to claim it would be BECAUSE of my commitment to denounce
      the obvious partiality of the police and mainstream media is ludicrus and I
      beleive it should be embarassing for your “asociation”.

      I do not trust nor rely on a media that covers only the part
      that absolves the real perpetrators of continuing to take our
      guarantees away from us in the name of “terror”
      or taken this way: Why does the spokesman of police
      alerts us from an uncomfirmed source about the danger
      of the “patsies”?and that one none challenges?!
      You, sr., engineer, should know better if you ask
      me for evidence, knowing that wtc7 IS evidence
      and is simply being ignored.
      I honestly believe that an impartial coverage of
      the truth such as the one I demand should cover AT LEAST
      the FACTS impartially.
      And maybe in a long shot even get “Al-Qaida” (who in reality is ,
      at least in part, a jesuit Opus dei,Order of Zion, Rotchild sponsored Rockefeller foundation, CIA, MI5, and many such compartementalized cells backed organizations). Serious accusations that I maintain even without concrete evidence in front of any one, any time.
      If I go to prison for falsly alerting the population or
      accusing the system behind so be it, after all, I will not rest until I am proven wrong and if so I will apologize and correct accordingly as well as accepting the consecuences of such difamation if such had taken place.

      God helps us all if the truth is in the hands of a duped
      majority blinded by the “democracy” simplistic propaganda, in this case, and respectfully, we the neutral swiss.

      So, you being against “my website” is ridiculous when
      the only help I asked for was for the pressure for an
      impartial coverage to the contacts in the media that you may have
      since my contacts, although in positions of power, appear
      to be afraid of loosing such position, of course!

      So your reaction, far from helping is to critisize my “as stated at the top”, artistic interpretation of the truth other than wtc7 and exeptions, and to claim that I am giving ideas to “crazy” people when the police
      already screamed:” AlQaida! Euro 08!” is comical as my internet
      visitors will most certainly amuse themselves with.
      ( for as long as we have free internet that is, Im afraid,
      only sites like yours, compliant to fear will survive)

      Which makes me wonder about your true motives of your
      reaction, when it could have been a simple:” we wont help
      you, period”.
      Hence I will copy a letter of the follow up of the
      reply that took you over A WEEK after and a few days before the Euro 08, to be able to work out in the name of “truth” and “democracy”.
      I pray that I am wrong, that such complasency and obedient adherence to the status-quo of your organization’s take on “democracy” is correct.
      I already decided to risk my life, reputation, comfort,
      whatever it takes to defend our God given rights of the
      swiss constitution, which my ancestors did die for and
      so I rather not be in this planet if our switzerland is no more than another brick in the NWO wall.
      I want to be wrong, about all of my fears, I
      want to wake up, and someone to tell me: sr!,
      you were just a nut, a crazy, dreaming! now go live your life…!
      So I would go play my bass guitar, afterall, all I wanted in this life was
      to be an artist.
      But a swiss soldier citizen I might be called on to be if
      my authorities sell us away for a bunch of gold…AGAIN!
      Sincerily, respectfully
      Fernando Tognola

      regards.
      Fernando Tognola
      223214940
      info@911truth.ch

    267. Carlton Says:

      Okay, now it is all over Iranian news, http://www.presstv.ir/

      I will tell the Fing Us Government this, the day they strike Iran is the day I go to the Appalachia
      mountains and help the mountain people fight off the US Government. I know they are ready for when things get wierd and I will be fighting right beside them.

      KISS OFF US GOVERNMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    268. David Says:

      liberals………………….are the real fearmongers. bush is just liberal lite. so is juan mcain.

      we need to close our borders.
      limit government.
      promote free markets
      and go back to the constitution.

      oh yea and stop trying to take guns out of the hands of Americans you marxist leftwing cultist.