COMMENT: One of president-elect Obama’s top advisers has put forward one possible course of action in regards to Obama’s waffling Iraq-withdrawal campaign promises. With the idea that his popular support needs to be convinced of Obama’s anti-war leanings, Anthony Lake told the Financial Times that “even after withdrawing troops from Iraq over 16 months as he has promised,” the Obama administration would maintain “a residual presence for clearly defined missions”. These would include military training, and “preparedness to go back in if there are specific acts of genocidal violence”.
Mr Lake depicted the Democratic candidate as a tough-minded realist rather than an anti-war politician. “That is not ‘cut and run and let’s just see what happens’,” Mr Lake said. “It seems to me a very responsible strategy.”
Highlighting a parallel with his first posting as assistant to Henry Cabot Lodge, a US ambassador in 1960s Saigon, he said: “It is common sense that we could not leave Vietnam successfully unless we left behind a government in Saigon that could govern successfully.
“It seems obvious in retrospect… in Iraq it’s the same problem.”
Deborah Haynes Baquba
London Times
November 5, 2008
Iraq -US soldiers at a gym on a base north of Baghdad halted their workout routines to watch a television screen as news broke that Barack Obama will be the next commander in chief.
One African American trooper cheered with excitement, while others at Forward Operating Base Warhorse were less impressed. They had hoped John McCain, a military veteran, would take over the reigns from President Bush.
Iraqis were also caught up in the election fever, with many rejoicing at the Obama triumph, hoping that it would mean a hastier exit for some 145,000 US troops still based in their country.
The President-elect had promised during the campaign to withdraw all US combat forces from Iraq within 16 months after taking office.
“It’s really the time of change, like Mr Obama’s slogan,” said Mohammed Hassan Ahmed, a lawyer in the southern city of Basra. “Most important for us is what the changes will be for Iraq. I hope it will mean the withdrawal of US troops and the establishment of a good, diplomatic relationship between our two countries,” the 52-year-old added.
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November 5th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Yeah…that just ain’t gonna happen…PEACE!
WAGON! WAGON!
DEAD BODIES DRAGGIN’!
MCL
November 5th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
see you in afghanistan
November 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Troops for Obama: By a 5:1 Margin in Contributions
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....donor.html
So I’d imagine they think he is going to treat them better than the Neo-Cons.
November 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
i propose a everybody start learning how to live in the woods for extended stretches of time
November 5th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
“genocidal violence” oh man I can’t take it anymore, such a f---ing farce!
November 5th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
I don’t think his Corporate Masters will even give him an inch of slack, even if he wanted to…………
November 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
he wants to send 15000 troops to AFGHANISTAN
http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....n_speech23
Obama is Not for PEACE!!!
Wake up America!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I don’t think his Corporate Masters will allow him to bring the boys home, even if he really wants to…………..
November 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
People are so freaking dumb. McCain won the primaries based on many moronic voters blindly voting for him because they thought he was “against the war”!!!
Bwahaha!!
Now all these moronic, feel-good, soy latte sipping, hippy lefties have voted in Obama thinking that hs is anti-war!!!
BwahahahahahaHAHA!!
Obama has always been one of the biggest hawks among the Dems. Even Clinton was less hawkish than this corporate stooge.
Man, we are so freaking screwed.
November 5th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
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November 5th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
look at the unconcious ss trooper..enjoy your new america..:-0..hiyal hitler..got to love those nazi helmets huh?
November 5th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Obama is just another lying Politician.
That’s OK though, ’cause some crazy f---ing bigot will probably put an end to him, and when that happens we’ll have an all out race war in the US, and then we can stop worrying about the Troops in Iraq, and start worrying about how we’ll survive.
I’m very proud that our nation could put the bigotry aside and elect the lesser of two evils, I’m just a bit concerned about what will happen in the very near future, when we all see that he’s (Obama) just another lying politician.
November 5th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Obama may bring new hope to our troops now, but that hope will quickly die as they will remain in the Middle East.
November 5th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Ya maybe he’ll have to bring the troops home to protect him… I’ll give it 6 months before some good ole Alabama boy does the job. Screw bigotry and religion, has nothing to do the perversion of our human race by power hungry elites who’s boots you willingly lick….
November 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
#12-you have to be either smart or stupid not both
November 5th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Refreshing honesty!
November 5th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
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November 6th, 2008 at 12:38 am
I hope he does bring them back.. We will put pressure on him.. Im sure he sees the bigger picture and will get the prickz out of the picture
November 6th, 2008 at 1:35 am
They will draw down some of the troops in Iraq. The most battle hardened ones who they think will be willing to rape the Constitution and kill american Patriots will come home. Others will spread to Afgan. and where ever else the new conflicts are opening. The media focus will be on the ones coming back to the fatherland as this will give the picture that obama is a good guy.
The s--- brain coward people will walk around in a trance marvaling at the golden messiah, the one. Ha,ha,ha….I like when they call him the “one” what a f---ing sick joke.
Anyway, they will do things to make him seem legit fairly early on in 2009. Certainly before June.
I can’t make up my mind. I don’t want our troops out there killing innocent people all over the world but I don’t want them back here in the Fatherland either. Katrina anyone?
To the good Constitutional troops out there I’m sorry but I can’t tell which of you are for real Patriots and good guys and which are traitor scum so I must assume that when you are patroling the streets of Fatherland that you are not a good guy.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:19 am
With US Bases set up, the only way we are leaving is that we get forced out. The rest of this is a smoke screen, and yes, it’s about oil and Imperialism.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:19 am
OK, BOMY BOY is another bald-faced LIAR, and the troops wont be home , PERIOD!! some may come back, but only to be here for the soon civil war! IF THE STUPID SOLDIERS ( YES, THEY ARE MORONS WHO OBEYED BUSH ) want to be home, they should rebel, go AWOL, and get back here before they all come back in a box. they are being used for FED. GREED, and not to fight terror!!!!!! And they not any hero to me, dino.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Beat the international banking scheme.
The Liberty Wealth Club.
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November 6th, 2008 at 4:06 am
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Things may seem to be a played out scheme by the nwo or the Illuminati/ You hear things about a conspiracy, there’s more to this. This Prophecy told to all of us through Biblical Prophecy’s are a well played out plan by the Elite. They try to abolish the Word of God as we all know him. Times are coming to what Revelations tells us to be weary of, as we as a people fall victims of the times and the Flesh. We have the time to do what we all have to in order to get our own lives in order. Many Musicians used there callings in life to say something through there song. We all have a purpose, such as the new world Order has there calling. They Choose to follow satanic beliefs, In control and wealth only to make people think they can get people through anything. Unfortunetly people will fall for there beliefs. All i know is, we best know that it’s only in God we Trust, that will get us through . Life is history, it’s just a matter if we choose to open our eyes to the Truth. Because History is upon us. Maybe a time to think if “This so-called Change, is actually for the better, or is it a well played out skit were all made to believe? So what word are you going to be listening to? Man’s or what the “Good Book” The Bible or scripture tells us? Best start practicing what we preach! Things in this world seem a mess, and ask yourself why?
November 6th, 2008 at 8:30 am
I want to do my part and give up two years of an ever shortening lifespan just to serve Obama The Great And Terrible!
I want to watch as open, blatant racism gets put on display everyday.
I want to live the black experience. (circa 1956)
I WILL live the black experience in America…now…
‘Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?’ (Johnny Rotten, Winterland Colliseum, San Francisco CA 1978)
WAGON! WAGON!
DEAD BODIES DRAGGIN’!
MCL
November 6th, 2008 at 8:59 am
He just told us lies to get in our pants…
make us pliable…now he has the pants you can forget all he said.
He will either
1. never said/promised these things
2. have to adjust for current situation
3. get you shot/jailed/sent to camp fema for questioning
November 6th, 2008 at 9:20 am
OK EVERYONE…. go to Youtube and look everywhere for Obama videos. Pick the ones who have just posted and also pick the ones that are most viewed and post in the comments section things like this.
((Im not a rascist I supported Cynthia McKinney who is also black and was running for president. I hope you noticed her on your ballot. AWESOME movie about the war on TERROR. This movie BLEW MY MIND! Someone did alot of research for this movie. Go to GOOGLE and search for “FABLED ENEMIES” also “TERRORSTORM”. It is truely amazing how the intelligence black ops work. They are masters of the art of illusion, magic and desception))
((New York Times reported September 13, 2001, Joe Biden, as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, met with Mahmood Ahmed on 9/11, Director of Pakistan’s secret service the ISI, who order Saeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta. Ahmed also met with George Tenet CIA head, senators Bob Graham and John Kyl, Rep. Porter Goss, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, and Secretary of State Colin Powell. The Bankers RULE the president has no POWER))
((Now that a Democrat has been elected president, the Democrats in Congress have no excuse. They can no longer pretend that they have to “hold back” to win the election. They have no excuse to delay war crimes charges against Bush, Cheney and company for Iraq.
They have no excuse to delay war crimes charges for torture. They have no excuse to delay criminal charges for spying on Americans. They have no excuse to delay criminal charges for 9/11. NO EXCUSES. NO MORE. Have TRIALS NOW.))
This is your CHANCE to help wake up the MASSES… before the NWO shuts down the internet. HURRY BEFORE ITS TOO LATE !!
November 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
So what’s he gonna do about the Genocidal activities here? keep it up? no one realizes it’s happening cause they got plausible deniability.
Oh, I forgot…I’m confusing chemtrails and GM food and vaccinations with explosive’s.
Peace in Spirit
November 6th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Why do people want the troops back here in the fatherland? Do people want them to come invade their neighborhoods and stael their guns and s--- all over the Constitution? Cus that’s their job and they have a great time doing it.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I heard today on msm that there is a brigade coming home, but watch, they’re gonna flip a bitch and its off to afghanistan.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
seems to me they’ll likely bring alot of selected troops back home and stick them as possible trainers for obamas youth brigades, those who suit thier needs for use against the american ppl troops who have a taste for violence, other units as a whole deployed in america too.
those who dont suit thier needs or are screwed up after the horrors they’ve been through will end up either being stuck where they are now or redeployed to new created war zones as cannon fodder.
it’s totally sick!
my heart goes out to you guys in the states.
November 7th, 2008 at 11:00 am
there will also be “good” news in a wile …. But it will not come from there where we expected it from.
pitty to see that humanity have nothing learned from the past …. I m glad that I dont live in america i could say … but … its the same s---e here … Thx for the info dudes; I’ll try to do my part to inform the people over here …. to get them awake, i mean we already had a lot of wars fought out here (WW1, WW2, napoleon, spain, Italian …. what is next ?) something to keep in mind when you have a 3year old son … knowing that it’s all fu*** up. I will not roll over and play there game l!
“when everybody cleans for his own door, the whole street will be clean !!!”
Peace to everyone ….
November 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Some of you guys in Iraq are getting on these sites, take heed to the warnings we have been telling you for 4 years, you need to seek asylum right away, cause Iran is going to be set up to look like your killers. US military stands for nothing anymore so come home any way you can.
November 8th, 2008 at 9:18 am
war sucks !!!!!!!!!! bring them all home !!!!!!!!!! don’t send any more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
you want a revolution…..come join me, i’ve just started to gather people…new group on facebook, Revolution started…come and join. its a gathering ground to get this started.
peace be with you alex, and to all that follow.
November 9th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Well…here ya go. you wanted some to start this thing….well i am.
Come and join my face book page i have just started today. ( Revolution Started) I am gathering people and have started an event. My proposal to everyone is….I get 5000 people and we have a peaceful protest outside the big house in Washington. so come and join me..fight the fight.
This needs to happen before the new president takes office. So i have made the event for Jan 2 starting at 10:00am and ending 1:00 pm on the 3rd so everyone can get back to there families….
thanks for your time….please help….Im begging, no more talk.
November 10th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
WOW….it amazes me that people wanted someone to start this revolution. I have started a group on facebook (Revolution Started) 5000 people and we got to Washington to protest. So come and join us…fight the fight….unless you really are all talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM DOING SOMETHING……ARE YOU?
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November 10th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Obama like Bush will bring them home in a bodybag. They know it, that’s why they gave what little money they could afford to give to RON PAUL!!!
November 12th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Please support facebook group (Revolution Started). Also started an Event (Be Heard) I want to get 5000 people together and head to Washington for a non violent Protest. Everyone talks and wants something done. So im starting it. Things are moving very quickly and i want this to happen before the new elect Obama takes office.
If you dont want to be part of this event fine…but at least show your support for those who ARE trying to make a difference.
Thank you
November 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
“It is commensense that we COULD not leave Vietnam “successfully” unless we left behind a government that could govern “successfully”.
ANyone notice the numerous fallacies in this statement? First of all there was no leaving Vietnam “successfully” because the war amounted to nothing more than an OBLATION. That is to say a SACRIFICE to some Illuminati “god”. It was fought neither to defend the U.S. or with the aim of winning. In fact the whole war was based on a LIE! SOunds familiar? After 58,000 Americans in bodybags and 2 million vietnamese joining them, I dont think “success” is a word you could ascribe to any part of that war. Second of all since when is the U.S. taxpayers responsible for leaving beind “government that could govern”? Where in the CONSTITUTION is this allowed?
November 13th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
For Soldiers to place their blind faith in this jackass muslim is a desperate call for help from our Soldiers.
November 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Obama the most dangerous man in the world, the American people will obey because they love their savior.
November 14th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Bring them home? Nobody twisted their arms to join the military. There was no draft. They knew the dangers of being in the military when they joined and now they have to deal with the consequences. Did these people think it was going to be a free ride? That is what they get for joining a government organization that is run by tyrannical monsters.
November 15th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
#42 EARLE
You will be right at home in the camps when they begin to use them! You have obviously the brain of an Obama or A Bush, Small, wreckless and IGNORANT!
f--- YOU! Many of my brothers in arms are dead because of these ILLEGAL WARS! This Military was meant to protect THE PEOPLE of America and NOT the CORPORATIONS which is what they are now tasked to do.
I hope you die from a mass infestation of fleas from a camels ASS!
November 16th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Earle, SHAME on you. What a horrible thing to say about the men and women killed. SHAME on you.
“That’s what they get” ?!?!
You’re an asshole.
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