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U.S. dying to prosecute Hasan
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Jerry Mazza
Infowars
November 16, 2009
The White House went ahead on November 12th, according to the 11/13/09 Washington Post, and charged Major Nidal M. Hasan with 13 counts of murder. It also reported that “Hasan has not cooperated with federal investigators seeking to interview him. His attorney, retired Col. John Galligan, told the Associated Press that military officials charged Hasan in the hospital without his Army lawyers present.”
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He went on to say, “What I find disturbing is that my client is in ICU, and he’s 150 miles south of his defense counsel, and he’s being served with the charges. Given his status as a patient, I’m troubled by this procedure and that I’m not there. I’m in the dark, and that shouldn’t be the case. I am mad.” It would seem the military officials are violating the rights of the accused.
Also, the WP states that “Guy Womack, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who practices military law in Houston, said Hasan’s defense counsel probably will argue that Hasan was mentally unstable at the time of the shootings.”
He added, “’The defense argument will be that Major Hasan knew that he would be identified, he knew that he would be captured, and he did it anyway, so clearly he was insane, that his mental defect was so severe that he couldn’t control his actions from right and wrong,’ Womack said.”
That also seems a little premature, especially from a lawyer. Using the press to prosecute before any full investigation has been made.
Again, what happened to that article from CNN that I mentioned in my article Major Nidal Malik Hasan, jihadist or patsy? Again, here is the quote, “(CNN) — A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation.
“’Shortly after the shooting,’ the officer said, ‘military police told him to clear the course and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts.’ The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
“He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.” They found no bomb.
“He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter. The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.” And who was the soldier in battle dress uniform? Who is the other suspect? Who was the MP? And where are they now? Answer the questions, please, somebody.
Additionally, the Washington Post states, now “Investigators say they think he [Hasan] was the only gunman [the classic lone gunman overnight]…” Why? In another place, Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division and for the joint task force investigating the crime, “left open the possibility that someone else may have helped instigate the attack [Who?]. He said military prosecutors may charge Hasan with additional crimes.” But in fact, Hasan plus two other military men were originally all held as the shooters on the day of the shooting, 11/5/09. Later, the two were released. Yet it begs the question, who shot the four SWAT police if Hasan was still sprawled on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him, nearly dead?
Beyond that, the Post’s story gets even stranger. In the section sub-headed “Ending the shooting,’ Grey declined to specify who did what in the exchange of fire. Saying those details must wait until the evidence is analyzed.”
Yet on Wednesday we have a television interview with Oprah no less, talking with Senior Sgt. Police officer Mark Todd, who was described: “approaching Hasan’s prone body, kicking his weapon and handcuffing him.” Todd was one of two police persons that allegedly brought down Hasan. He also told Oprah, “We’re trained to shoot until there is no longer a threat… And once he was lying down on his back, his weapon just fell into [out of?] his hand and I’m like, ‘Okay, now’s the time to rush him and secure him.’”
The other police person was Sgt. Kimberly Munley, who was wounded. As the Washington Post described her NBC Today Show appearance, “Munley, sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket on her legs…said the knowledge that so many were killed ‘was devastating.’” She added, “I wish that we would have gotten there faster, to prevent any lives from being lost,’ with tears in her eyes, ‘Because I know there’s a lot of families out there suffering right now….I just wish the call would have came even quicker.” So do we all.
Drill or real event?
These quotes also open up another can of worms, noted by Webster Tarpley in his Nidal Malik Hasan of Virginia Tech, Bethesda, and Fort Hood: A Major Patsy in a Drill Gone Live? His subhead states that “Troops thought it was a drill – did Major Hasan think so too?” This is reminiscent of 9/11 air controllers and pilots, questioning if the 9/11 attack was a drill or real. Tarpley writes (on page 3) that “Many of them [the troops] are on record agreeing that the events of November 5 were initially interpreted by those on the scene as an exercise, as a drill…”
Tarpley quotes an ABC report of the following testimony: “Soldier Keara Bono told “Good Morning America” today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up, praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn’t believe it was real even when she felt her own blood, she said. ‘Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that were bleeding,’ she said. That’s when Bono realized that Hasan’s rampage wasn’t a drill [bold face, Tarpley’s).
In the middle of all this, we now have President Obama ordering “an immediate analysis of all intelligence about Hasan…and asking his top homeland security and counter-terrorism official to oversee the inquiry and to report back at the end of the month.”
Obama’s order re the unfortunate killing of 13 soldiers at Fort Hood also reminds us of the exposure and vulnerability of those soldiers, sick from over deployment and other stresses at that Army base. Too often they’re patched up and sent out again.
In an interview on CNN, General Casey admitted that they could not keep up with the increasing need for help for the many soldiers suffering from PTSD, increasing suicide rates, et al. But instead of the interviewer suggesting that perhaps ending the war in Afghanistan would solve the problems, he spoke of creating special training units to help the men deal with the realities of war. As a reader suggested, “To me this means teaching them how to kill without guilt, refrain from questioning their missions (which many are) and generally creating automatons (as the Nazis in Germany). And are you a liability if you fall apart?”
Meanwhile, Obama is still mulling over how many troops to send to Afghanistan regardless of increasing advice to get out. So, who are the real crazies in this tableau representing the "true patriots" defending our country's interests and giving military advice for decision-making to our increasingly lost-in-the clouds president?
It will be extremely dangerous to continue in Afghanistan when we don't have the means for taking care of the urgent domestic needs in the U.S. and more disturbing, allowing the worst military extremists to dictate American “policy.” And of course, there is always an oil pipeline to be considered and the money being currently raked in from poppy growing which is going to the occupiers.
Obama's speech at Ft. Hood was in fact a jarring indicator of his personal priorities, using the tragedy to emphasize the military as solution to our problems and an emphasis on might makes right, etc. which points the way to his decisions about Afghanistan and other problem areas. This may make the need for a swift prosecution of Hasan more pressing.
Obama’s actions came after Rep. Peter Hoekstra (Mich.), “top Republican on the House intelligence committee,” the Post reports, “said the review may suggest ‘a failure to connect the dots.” He also “called for a similar review.” This was due to “The failure to brief [members of Congress] on Saturday raise[ing] red flags …that the intelligence community had done a lot of information-gathering that they felt uncomfortable sharing with Congress—not because it was an incomplete package, but that it would raise questions that they might not have been ready to answer.” This too is very reminiscent of 9/11, a refusal by agencies to communicate with themselves and Congress, before, during and after the horrific event.
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Hoekstra then stepped into never-never-land, saying that sources beyond the intelligence community told him “Hasan had wired money to and communicated with people in Pakistan. He said he “didn’t know what the transfers were…” But he did say, “It could simply be innocent money transfers, who knows, for earthquake relief,” adding he had not been able to verify the allegation, ‘But the sources were pretty good.” Pretty good? Hasan’s life hangs in the balance as still another inference of alliances with Mid-Eastern powers [we are threatening] are being made.
The relevant side bar
On nearby fronts, the New York Times ran the article, Key 9/11 Suspect to Be Tried in New York. That would be the forlorn Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-named mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, who has been cooling his heels in Gitmo for several years, and who is probably ready to confess to planning Pearl Harbor and the sinking of the Maine. Four others accused of being in the plot will be prosecuted in New York City’s federal court as well. What follows from the Times is the real kicker…
“The decisions about how to prosecute Mr. Mohammed and Mr. Nashiri have been particularly difficult because their defense lawyers are expected to argue that they were illegally tortured by the Central Intelligence Agency during their confinement, tainting any evidence gathered from their interrogations. The Bush administration later sent a so-called ‘clean team’ to re-question the prisoners in preparations for military commission trials.” A “clean team?” Did that include Procter and Gamble’s original “Mr. Clean?” Pardon the levity but it’s induced by stretching belief like an old rubber band. It snaps.
The Times’ key paragraph states, “Documents have shown that the C.I.A. used waterboarding — a controlled drowning technique — against Mr. Mohammed 183 times in March 2003. Mr. Nashiri is one of two other detainees known to have been waterboarded before the Bush administration shut down the program, which high-level officials had approved after the Justice Department wrote legal memorandums arguing that the president, as commander in chief, could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws.”
“Arguing that the president…could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws,” and basically do whatever he pleased and have US citizens and the victims swallow it. That’s all I will say about this. Except that it’s this kind of madness that Hasan, whether he’s guilty, crazy, neither or both, may be facing in the near future, if he’s lucky enough to survive his hospital stay, and not be visited by a contemporary Jack Ruby, citizen gangster.
I leave the Times article to you, reader, to peruse and reach your own conclusions about our own voids in justice. Dying to prosecute these long-held prisoners at this time adds still another layer of purported Muslim madness to fairly prosecuting the short-lived Hasan case. There are no coincidences in these affairs, only intentional happenings. I hope that in the “rush to judgment” that both justice and the real truth are not the victims as well.
More scenarios
Another reader, Glenn Dormer, writing under the penname “mouser,” sent me his article from the Daily Paul, Fort Hood was a false flag by CIA/Mossad, Hasan is the patsy. Dormer has given me permission to print his full piece, which, though out of the box, is worth airing: “There were two stories running parallel on the day of the shooting. The true story leaking out over the internet via e-mail, telephones, twitter, and the ‘official story’ being planted in sequence at ABC, NBC, CBS and AP.
“That’s why there was a mixture of information, honest misinformation and planted disinformation. 24 hours later everything had been boiled down to the ‘official story’ where a single crazed Muslim gunman killed 13 and wounds 31.
“The plants and spins give this away to be a full-out false flag. This is evidenced by the ‘bogus suicide grenade-bomb article’ being written and planted WEEKS BEFORE the 5 November 2009 and then ‘found’ four hours after the shooting and RELEASED to AP (when the FBI believed Hasan was already dead). The spun Rambo female police gunfire take-down. The spun terrorist Imam ‘electronic’ connection to Yemeni. The spun Al-Qaida connection. The spun 9/11 terrorist connection. Please, do not believe any of those lies.”
He purports that, “Hasan was laying on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him when the real gunmen (government agents – likely CIA/Mossad based on prior 9/11 experience) made their escape and shot several SWAT and civil police before being apprehended and then released.”
He also purports that “The real shooters were dressed in army fatigues; they pumped Hasan with 4 bullets and believed him to be totally dead. One of the real gunmen may have been shot and killed during their escape. The real gunmen who escaped were apprehended and then released back into the hands of the CIA.
“What do you think Hasan (if he isn’t suicided instead) will say – that he is a member of Al-Qaida and that he did it because he hates America’s freedoms? This was a false flag by CIA/Mossad just like 9/11 to garner further support for the exploitative and genocidal wars in middle eastern Muslim countries and to prepare the public for the unprovoked coming invasion of MUSLIM Iran by US and Israel to force Iran to accept a Rothschildean controlled central bank, as was done a few years ago to Iraq.
“In summary, Hasan did not fire a single shot, he did not even hold a gun on Thursday 5 November 2009 in Fort Hood.” Whether or not this article pushes the envelope of believability, it is within the realm of possibility. We have come to understand that fact from previous false-flag operations and assassination attempts.
In fact, another reader, who desires anonymity writes ”Snap judgment: Hasan was (a) shooter. We havent seen forensic evidence linking all the rounds fired to Hasan’s gun, and Hasan’s gun to Hasan’s hands. Any other rounds from other guns fired, either friendlies or ’suspects’? No one is talking.” The reader goes on suggest…
”Pure patsy? Unlikely. Shooting down of Hasan by Ft Hood cop Todd implies a spontaneous event, and that Hasan was engaging as a shooter. But 100+ rounds fired off from two handguns, even with 15-20 round clips?
”My curiosity — the much-ballyhooed ‘al Qaeda’ angle to Hasan. Who is this mysterious Imam Anwar al-Awlaki?
”…from a Facebook post:
…”The ‘radical imam’ Anwar al-Awlaki— who is pictured in classic al Qaeda fiery cleric gear, plus obligatory glasses plus beard, is linked by email and mosque to Major Hasan, is born in New Mexico, an American of Yemeni descent (unclear if Yemeni Arab, Jewish, or other); lived in VA & was caught transporting hookers from DC to his home in Virginia, (Mann Act violation, observed by Federal agents in 90s!), implying surveillance already.
”Awlaki shows up as a handler of San Diego-based ‘9/11 hijackers’ Alhamzi & Al-Midhar, making phone calls to their first Clairemont [apartments’] landlord, preaching at Rabat mosque near their second lemon grove/La mesa housing spot.
”Then he moves to Falls Church in late 2000, where he preaches in the Dar al-Hajrah mosque ‘frequented by Alhamzi &Midhar’ – and Hasan – 9/11 happens — (see link below); al-Awlaki departs to Yemen & returns to US as he pleases in fall 2002, above…despite all of the above…
*(True, Awlaki was briefly detained on re-entry in 2002 based on his flags, but despite tight connections with alleged hijackers, the order to arrest rescinded.)
“The restricted database log shows that Aulaqi was released from custody at JFK International Airport after agents there got word from D.C. that an arrest warrant for him ‘had been pulled back’ the day before he arrived.” Later, American Awlaki moved to London then to Yemen permanently. Never called or questioned by 9/11 Commission. Makes sense, right?
”Take-home message? Hasan is kept as a pawn and patsy-watcher on the chess board, despite ‘warning signs’. Awlaki is moved around like a ‘Bishop’, supporting roles everywhere. Useful for 9/11 mythology, critical for Hasan legend.” I couldn’t agree more on that last point.
*http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/12/inside-the-ring-31336833/
My thanks to the three readers for allowing me to print their comments. Misspelling of names and minor grammatical errors were corrected. Nevertheless it seems the process of justice has not been corrected. We are left with the notion of a scripted and orchestrated event to cultivate and utilize Muslim patsies as the dominant theme in a complex op, as complex as media, government, and the military can make it, to keep the Mid-East hostilities going and America worrying as it sinks in ever deepening debt.
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November 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Until they identify this PUKE, as a [TERRORIST]- we have the lost the war, we claim not-to fight.
Until the US Citizen realizes he/she is an [INFADEL] in the eyes of ALL Muslims, we [FAIL].
Most people are just targets anymore, (they aren’t even [PAWNS].
AliK Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
In Islam, Christians and Jews are referred to as “The People of the Book” not as infidels. As a matter of fact any person who submits to the will of the One Almighty is called a muslim in arabic.
Listen to what this ex-Christian preacher has to say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POBnRsu_QgE
FrankO Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Hey AssLik, Are you smokin Opium?
Usman Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
What Alik is saying is completely true. Muslim does mean that, just as Allaah means God. They are simply Arabic terms. We all worship the same God(Christians, Jews and Muslims). Why is this so hard to believe people?
Bob Jones Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
What Alik omits is that Christians and Jews are considered explicitly as second-class citizens by Islamic law, subject to fewer rights and special taxes. As people of the Book, the Christians and Jews are considered footnotes.
In fact the story of Islam is that it came to pass because Allah revealed to Mohammed how the Christians and Jews had perverted his message.
Nice try, Alik, but all Muslims and major media leave out this little fact.
Usman Reply:
November 20th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Not second class citizens, that is justice. Take the Native Indians for example. This is their land(The Americas) and they don’t pay any taxes. Instead, we pay taxes and they get the advantage.
In the Islamic Era when Muslims dominated the various different lands in the East, they did have to pay taxes only because they didn’t have to live like the Muslims did. They were not forced to become Muslims, nor did they have to fight in any Wars and the Muslims living in those areas Did in fact fight in wars to protect their own people as well as the Non-Muslims living there. Paying a little tax is the least they could do for these services that Muslims offered the Non-Muslims.
A MAJOR Fact that Everyone seems to omit in the Media today.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
This man is a terrorist–and should be put to a military tribunal, then executed.
See the latest article about Islam, Muslim extremist, and the threat they pose to America at
http://onlibertyandfreedom.blogspot.com
We need to understand the enemy.
Sigh@sigh.sigh Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Poor guy, setup by the people with brains…
Convicted by the people without.
terrorbite Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Agreed. The other idiots on this comment page are falling for the same s--- that the Establishment has done over and over again. Set up people for crimes, ot reactions from the dumb sheeple then offered a solution, like divide and conquer. I don’t believe it for a second. Screw these people who can’t think and fall for anything and stand for nothing. Idiots.
saad Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Ofcourse. there are tons of examples to understand this scenario. Why would some one do it by knowing that he will achieve nothing. Is he insane? Is US Army giving this kind of training to them? Is there recruitment process likes to take any insane person? the answer is NO. This is all part of the plan by thinkers who want to achieve long term gains. I agree with your quote of ‘divide & rule’
ggg Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
White people are the ONLY threat to humanity!!!
White Satanic Dis-Order!!!
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
ggg, GO f--- YOURSELF YOU RACIST PIECE OF s---!
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Whites don’t go around burning their own houses and stores. We down committ drive by shootings. Unless of course the white wears sags. You are an idiot just like 98% of these idiot plants on here. The biggest part of these CLOWNS on here are most likely plants from the gov.
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Most whites are behind all disorder, chaos, murder and robbery on this planet — and I’m not talking small-time drive-by shooting you small minded monkeybrain.
rebel93 Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
he is a rag head nonetheless and will die like the enemy he is.
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Don’t you have school in the morning?
Sal is a racist Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
and a government agent bottom feeder
November 16th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
To those who are quick to Judge, examine your sources. We already know the government and mass media can’t be trusted to tell the truth about anything so why believe all this bulls---? IMHO, they are just spreading more lies and fear to justify this illegal war on terror. To me, this guy is just one of many nut-jobs who went postal this year. He’s not the first and won’t be the last. Just take everything you see in the media with a grain of salt…
roaddog6 Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
yep. This court scene they have planned out for him will be like a three ring circus.
Road Hog Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
That was a real intelligent thought. D’Oh? While the ficticous NWO plots another scheme against you.
Paranoid, certifiable, delusional f---.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
suck it.
WarIsARacket Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The “trial” will be a Dog and Pony Show…
RocksONRocks Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
THIS IS WHAT ‘THEY’ WANT US FOCUSED ON.
LIKE PULLING THE FIRE ALARM, WHILE SOMETHING ‘ELSE’ IS GOING ON FOR DISTRACTION.
HMMMM….BUT ‘WHAT’ COULD IT BE ?
RocksONRocks Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
That dident come out right….but oh well
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
You Nunya are an idiot. The SOB is a terrorist plan and simple. The more everone makes excuses the more the s--- is going to happen. So keep up your stupidity and believe the bulls---. Looks like a duck walks like a duck.
Grow The f--- Up Sporto Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
You know he is a terrorist do you?
That was a downright racist and condascendiong remark.
Good sir, we DO NOT hang people in this country until they recieve a FAIR TRIAL of their peers.
Just because some asswipe like you screams the loudest from the rooftops that we should.
I guess this means you are out of the running for the jury pool?
Lastly, this comment by you….”The SOB is a terrorist plan and simple.”
Do you have any clear and convictable proof to back up this claim?
If not, you are just another dime a dozen fatass rabble rouser trying to stir up s---.
Post your PROOF he is a terrorist or…SHUT THE f--- UP!
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
How is it that I am racist because I call it as I see it? What did the MF say as he was shooting our soldiers? You are an idiot!!! I don’t watch dancing with the stars, any reality shows whatsoever. Don’t watch mainstream. I’ll not shut the f--- up nor will you make me. I promise you that. Not only is it GOD given, it is my right and my personal want to. Vocal I am and Vocal I will be. You nor your president will take that away. So go be a good LIBERAL and you SHUT THE f--- UP!!!
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
No, Ron, You go ahead and STFU! Hating your enemy does not make you a patriot, speaking unwisely and without self control does not make you a patriot. Holding sacred the very principles of human liberty upon which this nation was founded is what makes you a patriot. If you do not hold those principles sacred then you are not in fact one of us.
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Thank for your kind, cutting and truly American Words. Ron STFU.
Nunya Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Ron,
Shut the f--- up and go back to watching CNN and Dancing With The Stars you brain-washed turd…
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Doesn’t matter nunya, he did what he did with terroristic intention. So, it is what it is.
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Ron, You don’t know a FN thing about what happened. That is our point. You know only what you have been told by media and initial reports from real investigative reporters – and you are jumping to a conclusion that is not supported by the available evidence.
You appeal to “expertise” indirectly and therefore brand yourself in the meat as a propagandist.
WarIsARacket Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Deluded you are Nunya…it was government run operation. The left-right paradigm myth you have bought – hook line and sinker…
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
You’re just a hateful little racist s---.
Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Just as an after thought nuya. Islam is not a race JACKASS, it’s a religion. Nothing more. I take you are a muslim. You have to be or a Demo DOG. One of the 2. No one else would defend someone that killed so many U.S. SOLDIERS for Christ sake.
hmmm Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
the largest killer of U.S. SOLDIERS has been the the US military.
in case you forget, even if you go with the fox news versions of the story, hasan is a soldier, the fbi knew what he was up to and gave him a pass, his superiors knew what he was up to, promoted then ordered him to be deployed. if and when hasan is convicted because the story as they play it is indeed the truth, he should not be the only one to go down.
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I wish many more soldiers would die, the more that die the more innocents will be saved from the mindless lobotomised bastard thugs. Hope they all die.
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
What is a race?
roaddog6 Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
nascar
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Oh I don’t defend the person that did it. I’d be happy to be the executioner if he really did the killing. Our point is only that this man has not yet been tried in a real court (which is UCMJ) to assess if he in fact was the (only) shooter.
This even stank the moment I heard of it. 13 dead, 31 injured by one guy with pistols on a military base filled with vets? Bulls---, I have much more respect for our vets than that. Hasan may have been a trigger man, but there is more to it than that.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Old saying; believe nothing you hear and half of what you see and now days with high tech electronics’ it’s believe nothing you see either. http://www.defensereview.com/c.....rfighters/
November 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Military Tribunal…what a crock of s---…
i guess thats comforting to the sheep though…
there is no war on terror…just wars of terror…
im realy suprised after all these years you people are still fighting like little kids of imaginary friends…aka GOD.
truthhurts Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
G=gold O=oil D=drugs this is your nwo god.
hmmm Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
add an S for slaves.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Rothschild says…amicus curiae …??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk
November 16th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Rothschild says….Just a logos…??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ecI3ErhY8
November 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
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November 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I don’t know why everyone here is so set against any further expansion of the NWO into the oil producing nations of Pakistan and Iran.
I mean someday, it would be entirely feasible to see .33/gallon gas again.
What is the downside?
You people need to relax and let America do her God ordained work. America and the Almighty Creator are looking out for you and your best interests.
Instead of rallying against her, maybe you should rally at her side in her hour of need?
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Ron Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
What world are you living in? .33 a gallon, is most definatley a thing of the past. I guess everyone is allowed to dream. Dream on, atleast you have hope. Don’t get toooooo caught up in the NWO. That’s the last thing the U.S. needs. One government? Controlled by Obama? I think I”l pass thanks.
sal Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
What God are you talking about? Are you a Christian? You surely cannot be otherwise you’d know that Jesus said “love thy enemy”, not kill them, occupy their land, torture them and steal all their possessions. You stupid Moron.
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I was kinda hoping they were being sardonic/sarcastic…
November 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I don’t care if he is a patsy..a CIA trigger man or whatever What are the facts?
Could he be a terrorist ? A muslin gone postal? I don’t believe the gov.org is telling the whole story!
All i know is 13 Americans are dead, we will never know the truth!,if it can be proved that he was the killer ..well hang the slimball!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
NWO Worker Bee List-
Ron Paul – He kept the constitutionalists fed full of hubris, blissfully content and most importantly, *quiet* during the whole NWO takeover.
Alex Jones – He kept, and as a matter of fact still does, kept all of the *potential* militant resistors and the one of a kind certifiable nuts and liabilities worldwide in the same handbasket and kept them *content* on this site, for the NWO to keep an eye on, via this very site. He was and is, the NWO’s “people thermometer” if you will. Alex Jones would throw out the name Ron Paul every once in awhile to keep the hard core Constitutionalists and the NRA happy and most importantly….. *peaceful*
Sean hannity – He keeps people confused and dazed and effectively splits the hearts and minds of entire the nation into two pieces with his endless reports on nothingness. A classic NWO maneuver.
Chuck Norris – He keeps the folks from his days as the star of MIA Part 1-II-III content because he is one of the “good ol boys” who kicked ass and took names in the movies. Those types live their lives vicariously through Chuck Norris so to them, whatever he says, HAS to be alright.
You can pretty much pick your personna from the all star cast of the NWO lineup, all the way down the line, whether it be movie star or politician, news anchor etc. and make your own list.
You could even call the name of the game “Pick An NWO Personality” and then just connect the dots. Simple really.
The NWO takeover was HUGE and it involved every corner of each and every one of your lives.
From the food you ate, to the medicines you took, to who you were allowed to view on television.
Everything you see now happening on the planet is merely NWO “administrative” duties and paperwork.
The takeover isn’t coming……
No….not by a long shot.
IT IS OVER!
Where were you?
What did you do to stop it?
So, back to work you drone slaves, the NWO needs yet more control.
Mad Hatter Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
nuts
November 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments… But not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles… You will be shocked.
A new audio will be added to the site soon for you to listen to which will save you reading many of the articles.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings as you seek truth
Ben
iloveyahweh Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Awesome post Ben!! If all the Protestant Churches brought back the TRUTH of the 4th Commandment, that would really jangle a few NWO spurs!!
November 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
major kassam
November 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Do the math. 8 years for alleged planner of 9/11 attacks yet less than a month to perpetuation of a baseless war. hmmm.
November 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjKVb3Fo8s
November 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
to me this sounds like the case of austrailian david bryant who apparantly went on rampage in 93 killing 33 people yet witnesses who survived said there was more than one shooter even one wearing a long blonde wig to look like david bryant who suffered with learning difficulties and was on medication.google him and see the similarities.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
THE NEW WORLD ORDER:
Threat Or Promise?
A hundred years ago there was no Social Security, no unions and Welfare was almost non-existent. “Over the hill to the poor house” was a common expression directed at anyone who wasn’t getting his act together. When bills were unpaid, either the wife or the husband would throw up their hands and say, “Over the hill to the poor house for us”.
The poor house was usually an old building where the paupers got nothing but food and shelter and not much more than enough to keep them alive. The county paid for it and sometimes the community contributed food and cast-off clothing. There was little, if any, medical care and the lifespan of the average pauper was short.
This was accepted, even by the paupers. People worked and put by for their old age or hard times. Parents took care of their children and expected to be cared for by them in their old age. The unfortunate or improvident died. The government was never involved. It was a system that had worked for thousands of years.
That is the way things were until 1935 in the middle of the Great Depression. The population had grown too large for the economic system to handle. Millions who could work could find no work and there just were not enough poor houses and the need had grown too large for county relief. The government would have to become involved.
Far-sighted politicians fought against government involvement in individual care, regardless of how callous it made them seem. Near-sighted and even realistic politicians urged government aid and a compromise was arrived at; Social Security.
It was a compromise since the age for collecting Social Security was sixty-five but the average life-span was about fifty-five. Also, the payments were very low. Moreover, only the actual worker, most often the male, could receive benefits. Housewives and children were not eligible. So the government did not see much of a drain on the federal budget.
Few people know that the government was on the verge of collapse. Millions of starvelings would have brought it down. But Social Security, such as it was and work programs, such as the National Recovery Act and the Civilian Conservation Corps, kept government in power until the Second World War.
Then the economy boomed. But it was a false economy as the cost of the war was put on the National Debt. After the war, the spending went on. The National Debt rose, Social Security expanded to include the worker’s dependents, welfare increased, Medicare and Medicaid set in, farm subsidies and even near luxuries for criminals. Unemployment Compensation was instituted by the states. No one must suffer.
After the near collapse, the government decided it must never get so close to falling again. The politicians did not sit around a table and plan it, of course. The idea just got passed around and accepted by all. No matter what, come Hell or high water, hope the collapse comes during someone else’s administration, we’ll have ourselves a Welfare State. And they did it. They had to do it.
No one starves, no one really has to work, no one dies if money will keep him breathing in and out. Old people don’t have to live with grudging children. Defectives are kept alive to reproduce their blighted kind. The National Debt goes up and up and the interest on it gets harder to pay each year as the population of the incompetent and the elderly grows year by year. Also, each year there are fewer and fewer competent people left to support the system.
All this demands more government control over the life of the individual, higher taxes, more rules and regulations. There is no stopping it and the alternative is mass starvation, the destruction of our cities and the collapse of the government, followed by the collapse of world civilization.
Unable to view the whole picture, more and more people are turning on their government. They are like spoiled children, angered at parents who not only can not give them what they want but who demand unwelcome responsibilities.
Our system has two generations of people born into the Welfare State. They have become so used to security and privilege that they have come to feel betrayed by a government unable to keep up the bounty and the freedoms they feel is their due.
Many people, unable to accept this growing inability of their government-parent to maintain the lifestyle, security and liberties they have become accustomed to, have fallen for the fantasy called “The New World Order”. This, they are told, is a takeover by a sinister group who will take away all privileges and enslave everyone.
Irregardless of all the talk and writings, there is no real evidence of such a takeover being implemented or even planned. Certain dishonest people, conspiracy-mongers, made up the plot and began to promote the idea about a year after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
They prey on the anxious and unprepared who are totally locked into the system, and do not believe they can survive without it. Instead of encouraging them to learn self-sufficiency, they demoralize them with the phony threat. This is a distraction which keeps them from focusing on the real threat.
The conspiracy mongers make a good living selling tapes and books on the subject. Some make an even better living selling such dupes assault weapons, ammo, camos, Boy Scout equipment and commercial survival foods.
hmmm Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
perfesser, daddy bush is the one that started up talking the new world order in this generation. yet you say the conspiracy mongers invented it. did these all powerful conspiracy mongers invent the british empire too? how about new world slavery and the european feudal slave system? i bet you think the indian caste system doesnt exist either.
you know who even makes a better living? the jackass academics sucking off of the taxpayers’ nipple doing research to tell us how stupid we are for realizing that they are a bunch of liars sucking from our nipple. i do appreciate you dumbing down your post so someone like me could understand it though. i will be sure to focus on the real threat. what is that by the way, you didnt mention it.
hmmm Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
on second though, i dont want to hear it. everything you wrote was such a crock of crap, its not worth the time.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
I wish Alex Jones would make a twent minute video explaining what it feels like to take money out of the pockets of the people he has estranged from society, (who no doubt have little to spare anyway, making them now broke and paranoid both, while he kicks back in his brand new $750,000 house he just bought.
Hey, I guess the housing crash was good to you huh Alex Jones?
You are merely a maggot feasting on the minds and thusly, the paranoia, of the already weak minded.
And you have the gall to take money from them while spewing forth your unsubstantiated “stories” about the unknown.
Gee man, you talk about the US Govt. doing that to the citizens of the US with Al Queda. (FAUX SCARE TACTICS)
Yet, you do the exact same thing here!
EVERYDAY!
Only on a smaller scale.
The government run Mockingbird program taught you well Alex Jones.
STOP preying on the weak Alex Jones.
It is pathetic really.
November 16th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Check this out !!
Patent For Pneumonic Plague Vaccine – Given in August 2009
How Convenient that The British Department of Defense Got a Patent for a Vaccine for the Pneumonic Plague in August of 2009! What perfect timing!
http://atomicnewsreview.org/20.....gust-2009/
November 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
He got shot, while shooting our soldiers?…oh yeah, aledgedly…? Seems to me the cop that shot should have aimed a little higher, then we could just bypass this whole trial…Oh but, that would look like a conspiracy! Come on. He is an actual, real, bonerfied, jihadist, extremist, TERRORIST.
I’m sick of this conspiracy B.S. Stop trying to defend these creeps.
Abdullah Allah Akbari Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
The whole world is now our oyster.
It is only a matter of time before we take over the entire world.
Our beloved brother Barack is at the helm.
He will guide us and see us through the battle on your homeland.
The Muslim Brotherhood.
Icketards Eatreptilepoop Reply:
November 17th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
“The whole world is now our oyster.
It is only a matter of time before we take over the entire world.”
-You contradicted yourself Ab DUH
You’re going to have to wrestle control of it from ‘Oysters Rockefeller’- the one who’s really been at the helm for the last century and has more military than all you ragheads combined could ever dream of mustering. The only thing keeping them from using the race-specific bio weapons they’ve developed for arabs is the blowback problem- the fact that some jews (the true semites) have the same race DNA as the average middle eastern rooted arab.
Besides, all the NWO f***ers have to do to REALLY turn people against you Muslims is to have more shootings by mind controlled arabs like Hasan (and remember the blatant MK/Ultra dupe Sirhan?) as well as another big false flag terror event or two like 9/11, said to have been done by you guys. They could have people mad as hell and raging all across America and Europe stampeding your mosques and living places killing you all !! –Just like you f***ers did to all those 50,000 Christians in Fez, Morrocco back in the eighth century.
‘Cowboys and Muslims’
At a small terminal in the Texas Panhandle, three strangers are awaiting their shuttle flight.
One is a Native American passing through from Oklahoma. Another, a local ranch hand on his
way to Ft. Worth for a stock show. The third passenger is an Arab student, newly arrived from
the Middle East.
To pass the time, they strike up a conversation on recent events, and the discussion drifts to
their diverse cultures. Soon the Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout Muslim. The conversation falls into an uneasy lull.
The cowpoke leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table, tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face while the wind outside blows tumbleweeds and the old windsock flaps.
Finally, the Native American clears his throat and softly, he speaks:
“Once my people were many, now we are few.”
The Muslim raises an eyebrow and leans forward,
“Once my people were few,” he sneers, “and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?”
The Texan shifts the toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says, “That’s ’cause we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet.”
November 16th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Recommend the video (ca 1 hr 45 min) with Aaron Russo made a few months before he died (2007).
Though not perfect, the truth/patriot work by Alex Jones and by Ron Paul is done with an honest heart.
Aaron Russo’s film ‘Freedom to Fascism’ is inpassioned and genuine.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
He should have been strapped to a back board, stood up, and executed hour after the incident, then all members of any groups he belonged (men, women, and children, for three generations) to rounded up, and hard labor, 30 year!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
hold up on that ABDULLAH ALLAH AKBARI, cuz there is 300 hundred of us freedom fighters still here.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Here’s an article I found on a relatively mainstream web site: http://www.examiner.com/x-2331.....l-of-holes
It has links to even more of the types of stories quoted by Mazza. It seems that even people in the mainstream are questioning this story.
November 21st, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Abdullah Allah Akbari – looks like portraying himself as Muslim. Unusual name.
Abdullah means servant of Allah and then the name of Allah is put beside it. No Muslim can keep such names. Might be a person who wants to spread hate against Muslims.
So many govt and non-govt sources including media create tons of fictitious Muslim orgs and fool around with the public.
Creator of heavens and earth says in Holy Quran – “They plan and we plan and we are the best of the planners”. Sure, it might look that these guys are successfully fomenting trouble against Muslims but they might be walking straight into the plan of Almighty (creator of all of us – Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.) The only difference that Almighty makes is on the basis of piety (not wealth, knowledge, power, race, etc.)