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U.S. dying to prosecute Hasan
Posted By admin On November 16, 2009 @ 7:33 am In Featured Stories,Old Infowars Posts Style | Comments Disabled
November 16, 2009
The White House went ahead on November 12th, according to the 11/13/09 Washington Post, and charged Major Nidal M. Hasan with 13 counts of murder. It also reported that “Hasan has not cooperated with federal investigators seeking to interview him. His attorney, retired Col. John Galligan, told the Associated Press that military officials charged Hasan in the hospital without his Army lawyers present.”
|Using the press to prosecute before any full investigation has been made.|
He went on to say, “What I find disturbing is that my client is in ICU, and he’s 150 miles south of his defense counsel, and he’s being served with the charges. Given his status as a patient, I’m troubled by this procedure and that I’m not there. I’m in the dark, and that shouldn’t be the case. I am mad.” It would seem the military officials are violating the rights of the accused.
Also, the WP states that “Guy Womack, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who practices military law in Houston, said Hasan’s defense counsel probably will argue that Hasan was mentally unstable at the time of the shootings.”
He added, “’The defense argument will be that Major Hasan knew that he would be identified, he knew that he would be captured, and he did it anyway, so clearly he was insane, that his mental defect was so severe that he couldn’t control his actions from right and wrong,’ Womack said.”
That also seems a little premature, especially from a lawyer. Using the press to prosecute before any full investigation has been made.
Again, what happened to that article from CNN that I mentioned in my article Major Nidal Malik Hasan, jihadist or patsy? Again, here is the quote, “(CNN) — A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation.
“’Shortly after the shooting,’ the officer said, ‘military police told him to clear the course and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts.’ The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
“He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.” They found no bomb.
“He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter. The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.” And who was the soldier in battle dress uniform? Who is the other suspect? Who was the MP? And where are they now? Answer the questions, please, somebody.
Additionally, the Washington Post states, now “Investigators say they think he [Hasan] was the only gunman [the classic lone gunman overnight]…” Why? In another place, Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division and for the joint task force investigating the crime, “left open the possibility that someone else may have helped instigate the attack [Who?]. He said military prosecutors may charge Hasan with additional crimes.” But in fact, Hasan plus two other military men were originally all held as the shooters on the day of the shooting, 11/5/09. Later, the two were released. Yet it begs the question, who shot the four SWAT police if Hasan was still sprawled on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him, nearly dead?
Beyond that, the Post’s story gets even stranger. In the section sub-headed “Ending the shooting,’ Grey declined to specify who did what in the exchange of fire. Saying those details must wait until the evidence is analyzed.”
Yet on Wednesday we have a television interview with Oprah no less, talking with Senior Sgt. Police officer Mark Todd, who was described: “approaching Hasan’s prone body, kicking his weapon and handcuffing him.” Todd was one of two police persons that allegedly brought down Hasan. He also told Oprah, “We’re trained to shoot until there is no longer a threat… And once he was lying down on his back, his weapon just fell into [out of?] his hand and I’m like, ‘Okay, now’s the time to rush him and secure him.’”
The other police person was Sgt. Kimberly Munley, who was wounded. As the Washington Post described her NBC Today Show appearance, “Munley, sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket on her legs…said the knowledge that so many were killed ‘was devastating.’” She added, “I wish that we would have gotten there faster, to prevent any lives from being lost,’ with tears in her eyes, ‘Because I know there’s a lot of families out there suffering right now….I just wish the call would have came even quicker.” So do we all.
Drill or real event?
These quotes also open up another can of worms, noted by Webster Tarpley in his Nidal Malik Hasan of Virginia Tech, Bethesda, and Fort Hood: A Major Patsy in a Drill Gone Live? His subhead states that “Troops thought it was a drill – did Major Hasan think so too?” This is reminiscent of 9/11 air controllers and pilots, questioning if the 9/11 attack was a drill or real. Tarpley writes (on page 3) that “Many of them [the troops] are on record agreeing that the events of November 5 were initially interpreted by those on the scene as an exercise, as a drill…”
Tarpley quotes an ABC report of the following testimony: “Soldier Keara Bono told “Good Morning America” today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up, praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn’t believe it was real even when she felt her own blood, she said. ‘Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that were bleeding,’ she said. That’s when Bono realized that Hasan’s rampage wasn’t a drill [bold face, Tarpley’s).
In the middle of all this, we now have President Obama ordering “an immediate analysis of all intelligence about Hasan…and asking his top homeland security and counter-terrorism official to oversee the inquiry and to report back at the end of the month.”
Obama’s order re the unfortunate killing of 13 soldiers at Fort Hood also reminds us of the exposure and vulnerability of those soldiers, sick from over deployment and other stresses at that Army base. Too often they’re patched up and sent out again.
In an interview on CNN, General Casey admitted that they could not keep up with the increasing need for help for the many soldiers suffering from PTSD, increasing suicide rates, et al. But instead of the interviewer suggesting that perhaps ending the war in Afghanistan would solve the problems, he spoke of creating special training units to help the men deal with the realities of war. As a reader suggested, “To me this means teaching them how to kill without guilt, refrain from questioning their missions (which many are) and generally creating automatons (as the Nazis in Germany). And are you a liability if you fall apart?”
Meanwhile, Obama is still mulling over how many troops to send to Afghanistan regardless of increasing advice to get out. So, who are the real crazies in this tableau representing the “true patriots” defending our country’s interests and giving military advice for decision-making to our increasingly lost-in-the clouds president?
It will be extremely dangerous to continue in Afghanistan when we don’t have the means for taking care of the urgent domestic needs in the U.S. and more disturbing, allowing the worst military extremists to dictate American “policy.” And of course, there is always an oil pipeline to be considered and the money being currently raked in from poppy growing which is going to the occupiers.
Obama’s speech at Ft. Hood was in fact a jarring indicator of his personal priorities, using the tragedy to emphasize the military as solution to our problems and an emphasis on might makes right, etc. which points the way to his decisions about Afghanistan and other problem areas. This may make the need for a swift prosecution of Hasan more pressing.
Obama’s actions came after Rep. Peter Hoekstra (Mich.), “top Republican on the House intelligence committee,” the Post reports, “said the review may suggest ‘a failure to connect the dots.” He also “called for a similar review.” This was due to “The failure to brief [members of Congress] on Saturday raise[ing] red flags …that the intelligence community had done a lot of information-gathering that they felt uncomfortable sharing with Congress—not because it was an incomplete package, but that it would raise questions that they might not have been ready to answer.” This too is very reminiscent of 9/11, a refusal by agencies to communicate with themselves and Congress, before, during and after the horrific event.
Hoekstra then stepped into never-never-land, saying that sources beyond the intelligence community told him “Hasan had wired money to and communicated with people in Pakistan. He said he “didn’t know what the transfers were…” But he did say, “It could simply be innocent money transfers, who knows, for earthquake relief,” adding he had not been able to verify the allegation, ‘But the sources were pretty good.” Pretty good? Hasan’s life hangs in the balance as still another inference of alliances with Mid-Eastern powers [we are threatening] are being made.
The relevant side bar
On nearby fronts, the New York Times ran the article, Key 9/11 Suspect to Be Tried in New York. That would be the forlorn Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-named mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, who has been cooling his heels in Gitmo for several years, and who is probably ready to confess to planning Pearl Harbor and the sinking of the Maine. Four others accused of being in the plot will be prosecuted in New York City’s federal court as well. What follows from the Times is the real kicker…
“The decisions about how to prosecute Mr. Mohammed and Mr. Nashiri have been particularly difficult because their defense lawyers are expected to argue that they were illegally tortured by the Central Intelligence Agency during their confinement, tainting any evidence gathered from their interrogations. The Bush administration later sent a so-called ‘clean team’ to re-question the prisoners in preparations for military commission trials.” A “clean team?” Did that include Procter and Gamble’s original “Mr. Clean?” Pardon the levity but it’s induced by stretching belief like an old rubber band. It snaps.
The Times’ key paragraph states, “Documents have shown that the C.I.A. used waterboarding — a controlled drowning technique — against Mr. Mohammed 183 times in March 2003. Mr. Nashiri is one of two other detainees known to have been waterboarded before the Bush administration shut down the program, which high-level officials had approved after the Justice Department wrote legal memorandums arguing that the president, as commander in chief, could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws.”
“Arguing that the president…could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws,” and basically do whatever he pleased and have US citizens and the victims swallow it. That’s all I will say about this. Except that it’s this kind of madness that Hasan, whether he’s guilty, crazy, neither or both, may be facing in the near future, if he’s lucky enough to survive his hospital stay, and not be visited by a contemporary Jack Ruby, citizen gangster.
I leave the Times article to you, reader, to peruse and reach your own conclusions about our own voids in justice. Dying to prosecute these long-held prisoners at this time adds still another layer of purported Muslim madness to fairly prosecuting the short-lived Hasan case. There are no coincidences in these affairs, only intentional happenings. I hope that in the “rush to judgment” that both justice and the real truth are not the victims as well.
Another reader, Glenn Dormer, writing under the penname “mouser,” sent me his article from the Daily Paul, Fort Hood was a false flag by CIA/Mossad, Hasan is the patsy. Dormer has given me permission to print his full piece, which, though out of the box, is worth airing: “There were two stories running parallel on the day of the shooting. The true story leaking out over the internet via e-mail, telephones, twitter, and the ‘official story’ being planted in sequence at ABC, NBC, CBS and AP.
“That’s why there was a mixture of information, honest misinformation and planted disinformation. 24 hours later everything had been boiled down to the ‘official story’ where a single crazed Muslim gunman killed 13 and wounds 31.
“The plants and spins give this away to be a full-out false flag. This is evidenced by the ‘bogus suicide grenade-bomb article’ being written and planted WEEKS BEFORE the 5 November 2009 and then ‘found’ four hours after the shooting and RELEASED to AP (when the FBI believed Hasan was already dead). The spun Rambo female police gunfire take-down. The spun terrorist Imam ‘electronic’ connection to Yemeni. The spun Al-Qaida connection. The spun 9/11 terrorist connection. Please, do not believe any of those lies.”
He purports that, “Hasan was laying on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him when the real gunmen (government agents – likely CIA/Mossad based on prior 9/11 experience) made their escape and shot several SWAT and civil police before being apprehended and then released.”
He also purports that “The real shooters were dressed in army fatigues; they pumped Hasan with 4 bullets and believed him to be totally dead. One of the real gunmen may have been shot and killed during their escape. The real gunmen who escaped were apprehended and then released back into the hands of the CIA.
“What do you think Hasan (if he isn’t suicided instead) will say – that he is a member of Al-Qaida and that he did it because he hates America’s freedoms? This was a false flag by CIA/Mossad just like 9/11 to garner further support for the exploitative and genocidal wars in middle eastern Muslim countries and to prepare the public for the unprovoked coming invasion of MUSLIM Iran by US and Israel to force Iran to accept a Rothschildean controlled central bank, as was done a few years ago to Iraq.
“In summary, Hasan did not fire a single shot, he did not even hold a gun on Thursday 5 November 2009 in Fort Hood.” Whether or not this article pushes the envelope of believability, it is within the realm of possibility. We have come to understand that fact from previous false-flag operations and assassination attempts.
In fact, another reader, who desires anonymity writes ”Snap judgment: Hasan was (a) shooter. We havent seen forensic evidence linking all the rounds fired to Hasan’s gun, and Hasan’s gun to Hasan’s hands. Any other rounds from other guns fired, either friendlies or ‘suspects’? No one is talking.” The reader goes on suggest…
”Pure patsy? Unlikely. Shooting down of Hasan by Ft Hood cop Todd implies a spontaneous event, and that Hasan was engaging as a shooter. But 100+ rounds fired off from two handguns, even with 15-20 round clips?
”My curiosity — the much-ballyhooed ‘al Qaeda’ angle to Hasan. Who is this mysterious Imam Anwar al-Awlaki?
”…from a Facebook post:
…”The ‘radical imam’ Anwar al-Awlaki— who is pictured in classic al Qaeda fiery cleric gear, plus obligatory glasses plus beard, is linked by email and mosque to Major Hasan, is born in New Mexico, an American of Yemeni descent (unclear if Yemeni Arab, Jewish, or other); lived in VA & was caught transporting hookers from DC to his home in Virginia, (Mann Act violation, observed by Federal agents in 90s!), implying surveillance already.
”Awlaki shows up as a handler of San Diego-based ’9/11 hijackers’ Alhamzi & Al-Midhar, making phone calls to their first Clairemont [apartments’] landlord, preaching at Rabat mosque near their second lemon grove/La mesa housing spot.
”Then he moves to Falls Church in late 2000, where he preaches in the Dar al-Hajrah mosque ‘frequented by Alhamzi &Midhar’ – and Hasan – 9/11 happens — (see link below); al-Awlaki departs to Yemen & returns to US as he pleases in fall 2002, above…despite all of the above…
*(True, Awlaki was briefly detained on re-entry in 2002 based on his flags, but despite tight connections with alleged hijackers, the order to arrest rescinded.)
“The restricted database log shows that Aulaqi was released from custody at JFK International Airport after agents there got word from D.C. that an arrest warrant for him ‘had been pulled back’ the day before he arrived.” Later, American Awlaki moved to London then to Yemen permanently. Never called or questioned by 9/11 Commission. Makes sense, right?
”Take-home message? Hasan is kept as a pawn and patsy-watcher on the chess board, despite ‘warning signs’. Awlaki is moved around like a ‘Bishop’, supporting roles everywhere. Useful for 9/11 mythology, critical for Hasan legend.” I couldn’t agree more on that last point.
My thanks to the three readers for allowing me to print their comments. Misspelling of names and minor grammatical errors were corrected. Nevertheless it seems the process of justice has not been corrected. We are left with the notion of a scripted and orchestrated event to cultivate and utilize Muslim patsies as the dominant theme in a complex op, as complex as media, government, and the military can make it, to keep the Mid-East hostilities going and America worrying as it sinks in ever deepening debt.
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