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U.S. ‘on path’ to normalization with Iraq
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Politico
July 23, 2009
Editor’s note: “Normalized” after a million plus dead Iraqis and a country destroyed.
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The two leaders met in Washington for the first time Wednesday as the White House and Baghdad make an effort to recast Iraq as an up-and-coming member of the international community, not a battered and politically fractured country that U.S. troops continue to occupy.
“We meet at an important moment,” Obama said at the start of a sweltering joint news conference with Maliki in the Rose Garden.
“The United States and Iraq have known difficult times together,” the president said. “And together, Americans and Iraqis can expand economic cooperation and trade that opens new doors of opportunity. Together, we can broaden our educational, our cultural and scientific engagement to make a positive difference in the lives of our people. And together, we can take steps to advance security and prosperity throughout the region and around the globe.”
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July 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Hey, Alex, ask Rand what he thinks about 9/11. Does he believe the official government fable like his daddy?
Kayhla Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I seriously doubt that Ron Paul really believes the official story. I believe that he is making a calculated political decision to just not go there, as it would likely put him out of office. The same is probably true of his son. I think Ron Paul is a good man living in a hellish system, just like the rest of us… but it is true, a real man would stand up and tell the truth: 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
Chips Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Yes it was, and I agree with you about Dr. Paul & son.
Social Viability Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Unfortunately Ron Paul will be unable to salvage America as a congressman. Even if he defied the corrupt, rigged system and was elected President, any efforts he made to reverse America’s course would be hobbled by the Senate which is effectively bought and paid for by the central bankers.
During his campaign for President, Ron Paul was on the right side of every argument, but he’ll remain on the outer in politics. Political careers don’t depend on good sense and integrity. They depend on serving the interests of those that control the money.
While Obama is busy “normalizing” relations with Iraq (establishing Iraq as a military base and economic pawn in the fight for energy acquisition) Ron Paul will continue to struggle against the current in a morally, intellectually and financially bankrupt system.
American democracy has failed utterly. Time to move on.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
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stacey Lousioux Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:26 am
The US invaded Iraq and has killed millions of people and spent trillions of dollars and it turns out that it was ALL a lie. There were no WMD’s in Iraq. The US is never leaving Iraq. The truth has become irrelevant. The US loves to spend trillions and kill millions. That’s what we do.
The US invaded Afghanistan and has killed millions of people and spent trillions of dollars and it turns out that is was ALL a lie. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The US is never leaving Afghanistan. The truth has become irrelevant. The US loves to spend trillions and kill millions. That’s what we do.
The US invaded Iran………(fill in the blank)……….
Enough with this CoIntelOp Reply:
July 28th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Your disinfo campaign parroting “Alex is a ‘liar’ because there were no commercial planes on 9/11″ is over. Alex and Crew have done more to bring you the truth regarding that very subject than any other entity. Here are 10 reasons your strawman is blown. Infowarriors, repost as necessary.
1. “The United States government alleges that 4 registered Boeing commercial passenger aircraft were used in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, yet has failed to produce any physical evidence collected from the 3 9/11 crash scenes positively tied to these federally registered United and American airlines aircraft.”
-Infowars article February 26, 2008: 9/11 Aircraft ‘Black Box’ Serial Numbers Mysteriously Absent
2. Infowars reported that the government officially could not account for any wreckage that conclusively belonged to any of the purported flights.
-Infowars article March 18, 2008: F.B.I. Elaborates On Reportedly Absent 9/11 Aircraft Wreckage Recovery & Identification Records
Not enough? Let’s look INDIVIDUALLY at what Infowars has reported about ‘commercial planes’ and the “official story” of 9/11.
——-WTC 1 / American Airlines Flight 11——-
3. Infowars let you know that according to American Airlines flight 11 was not possible.
-Infowars article: “American Airlines – 9/11 Never Happened”
——–WTC 2 / United Airlines Flight 175——-
4. Registration was reported valid by Boeing until 09/28/2005 when according to them it was “Canceled” and “Exported”.
-Infowars article July 6, 2006: Very Strange 9/11 Aircraft Registrations
5. Tail number N612UA and FAA-registered as still valid.
-Infowars article June 14, 2005: Former Bush Admin Economist Says Official Story of WTC Collapse ‘Bogus’
6. Alleged 9/11 hijacker Hamza Al-Ghamdi had booked future flights which brings into question if he was on the flight at all.
-Infowars article Feb 28, 2008: Alleged Hijacker Booked On Post-9/11 Flights
————Shanksville / United 93————-
7. Infowars let you know that the Mayor of Shanksville refutes there even was a plane.
-Infowars article Sept 19, 2004: Mayor of Shanksville says “There was no plane”
8. Flight 93’s registration was also reported valid by Boeing until 09/28/2005 when according to them it was “Canceled” and “Exported”.
-Infowars article July 6, 2006: Very Strange 9/11 Aircraft Registrations
————-Pentagon / Flight 77————–
9. Alex has never maintained that a commercial plane hit the Pentagon. Alex holds that debating if it was a missile or a predator or anything else is an endless pursuit. That said, he and everyone else have gone to great lengths to discredit the story of Hani Hanjour out manning and out piloting Charles Burlingame. An example of this position is this article:
-Infowars article July 7, 2009: How the FBI and 9/11 Commission Suppressed Key Evidence about Hani Hanjour
10. And now one just for you ‘Mr. Alex is a liar because there were No Commercial Planes’,
Strawman: Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent’s position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent’s actual position has been refuted.
-Source Wikipedia
Liberty...Oh....Liberty Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Besides remaining mum on 9/11, Ron Paul has said precious little about Obama’s lack of eligibility to be president. To run all around the country proclaiming devotion to the Constitution and then not to take a vocal stand when it is assaulted in such an egregious manner is deplorable.
When I think of all the people who have given up everything to tell the truth about 9/11, I am left with little respect for Ron Paul.
OK, so Ron Paul says we need to audit the Fed. Big whoop. You really think we’re going to get an audit? I seriously doubt it. And if we do, do you really think it’s going to be a solid, credible, fair audit? Not a chance.
Tony Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Liberty – if they killed 3,000 people on 9.11, do you honestly believe doing anything other than apprehending them by force is going to stop them? Do you think they will let new investigations go forward? Do you think they will let you point a finger at them and throw them in jail through legal recourse? No; and hoping for it makes you pretty naive, perhaps even plain stupid. You are definitely wasting your time.
Ron Paul would gain absolutely nothing by speaking out about this. It has nothing to do with being a man or not. It has to do with playing your cards smart. For a man in his position, he couldn’t speak out about it unless he was able and willing to name names. I don’t think even the most die hard truther out there has an solid list of people who were involved.
And in the end it doesn’t really matter. We still have to take this country back today. Not 9.11/2001, not 9.11/2020, but TODAY. Without even talking politics I can get people interested and excited about becoming self-sufficient. I can get them to circumvent taxes, growing their own food, going organic, making their own water. I can get people excited about making things on their own and discovering the satisfaction of being your own boss. It doesn’t matter what side they are on, who they voted for, or what they believe happened on 9.11. Once they get started, they realize politics and the government are standing in the way of becoming MORE self-sufficient, MORE self-reliant, that government is standing in the way and inhibiting their ability to engage in a free market. The wars, the banker bailouts are all impeding their pursuit of freedom, happiness, and prosperity. Without me having to say anything they figure it all out for themselves.
Because you don’t throw a man a fish, you teach him how to fish. And I don’t throw people the truth, I teach them to find it themselves.
Peace. Hope this helps. Then again there are miserable, sackless cowards who would rather cut people down than step up to the plate and “do it better” themselves. Hope you aren’t one of them!
Tony Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
People right now don’t get the sense of the government cramping them, because they don’t do anything for themselves. Everything is provided for them via mega-corporations and government. Its all one big machine and they are happy with it because they’ve known nothing else.
As soon as you try to do things on your own, you realize the steel bars in the way stopping you. You wonder who put them there and why. Then you find out the rest of the story.
Tim Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
LaRouche Previews August 1 Webcast: Installing An Anti-British-Imperialist World Economy
July 16, 2009 (LPAC)– On Saturday August 1, 2009, at 1 pm Eastern Time, Lyndon LaRouche will address a world audience, and leading collaborators within the United States, in an international webcast. In a paper currently under preparation on “The Science of Physical Economy,” LaRouche directly previews the topics on which he will concentrate during that presentation.
“The world now hovers at the brink of a long dark age of absolute despair. Only the sudden and thorough scrapping of the monetary systems which have reigned over the world since the death of President Franklin Roosevelt, could provide humanity today an escape from a New Dark Age whose character would bring the entire planet rather quickly from a level of about 6.7 billions individuals, to probably something near the goals, of no more than two billions, demanded from pro-genocidalists such as the late Bertrand Russell and the sheer evil of the World Wildlife Fund of Prince Philip and the now deceased Prince Bernhard.
“While it is necessary to continue the use of money as a medium of exchange within the microcosms of the social process of economy, any useful definitions of the role of money must abandon those old, systemically failed, definitions, which have been formerly taught in schools and universities, and as presently official accounting practice; there must be sudden and sweeping installation of a new form of an anti-British-imperialist world economy, that among cooperating, perfectly sovereign nation-states. That urgently needed change, will come into existence on the battleground once occupied by the preceding reign of the now hopelessly failed existing nation-states of the former monetary systems.
“However, this urgently needed change were likely to occur, only if an inner circle of professional economic competence is created now, from among relevant leading circle among some key nations.
“For this purpose, the preliminary step of urgently needed education to be taken immediately, is to present an updated presentation of that ‘Triple Curve’ imagery which I first published in the official, 1996 announcement of my candidacy for that year’s Democratic Presidential nomination. The current update of that ‘Triple Curve’ will be presented in two public events, one prior to my August 1, 2009 international webcast, and the second during that webcast. The implications of that update, which will have been presented publicly prior to those events, are to be assumed in what is written here.
“The crucial change might appear to some as minimal. I have proposed, simply enough, to replace the existing world monetary system, as if by turning on a dime, by a fixed-exchange-rate alliance among a set of what shall be, respectively, perfectly sovereign nation-state republics. This shall be accomplished by elementary methods of reorganization in bankruptcy….”
LaRouche’s webcast will be aired live on http://www.larouchepac.com
THE WATCHER Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:51 am
Tell your buddy LaRouche he STILL owes me over half a million dollars!
david in district 14 Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm
I don’t Ron Paul believes the official line, if he spoke the truth he would be chastised for it and loose his clout, sadly america cant buy such a concept as 911 was an inside job. Ron Paul is a good man,
ciao
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
…Iraq is nothing more than military bases for world domination.
SecretActivator Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Well said
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
They’ve made me NoRmAlIzEd.
Thanks pig!
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
u vermin will see FEMA camps reeeeeeeeell
sooooooooooooooon hehehehhehehee
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Hey, Alex, ask Rand if he believes the official government fable of 9/11 like his daddy does.
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Of course iraq is another military base to take over the middle east. slowly but surely every other country will have no other choice but to join the evil world order.
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
The Native American Indians have normalized realtions with the us gov…also ,,since they are all dead………Does this mean that Iraq’s will be able to build Casino’s and sell tax free Cigs like the few surviving indians?
Culliver Sniffens Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
the Casino Solution could work for the Palestinians. build a Vegas in Gaza where all their oil-rich neighbors could come party.
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Hey 2012 believers:
http://video.google.com/videop.....nking+2012
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
We’ll have normal relations when we leave and pay for all of the damages that we visited upon their nation.
Aussie Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Normal relations simply by leaving and pulling out the checkbook???
How much do you think a dead Iraq’i is worth???
$1?
$100?
$1,000?
$100,000?
$1,000,000?
$10,000,000?
$???
.
Money can’t bring the dead back to life!
Money can’t repair shattered minds!
Money is what caused this inhuman travesty in the first place!
Jam your checkbook idea right up your smug, ignorant arse…dopey Dave!!!
dave Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
No amount of money can pay for the dead,my comment had to do with the devastation of their infrastructure,but if we want “normal relations” those two first steps are what is required.
I assume since you believe that a checkbook cannot pay for those lost lives that you wouldn’t be willing to offer any amount?
You had better believe that money will make it easier to the Iraqi’s to regain normalcy.
I wasn’t in favor of attcaking Iraq in the first place so you can leave me out of the “smug ignorant arse” group dopey Aussie.
Please die of melanoma!
THE WATCHER Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:53 am
Too bad we have not yet killed ALL the Muslims on the planet!
Dave Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:13 am
I assume that you’re one of the Israeli anonymous posters that are hired to push the Israeli terroristic line.
BEN Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am
to bad we did”nt wipe all you jews out after ww”11″”"”
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
“The United States and Iraq have known difficult times together,” puppet Obama said.
.
Iraq has known “difficult times???”
Iraq’i children blown to pieces as a result of “difficult times???”
Planned and orchestrated mass murder spanning nearly two decades is spun as “difficult times???”
How dare you mouth the scripted words of your masters and call the mass murder (and ongoing murder) of more than a million innocent Men, Women and Children from Iraq “difficult times”
I hope your children awaken to your evil one day soon “puppet”…and spit on your wooden face!
The remaining (fast dwindling) population of Iraq, knows only too well “the horror of your masters plan”…that “is” what Iraq knows!!!
“past and present horror”…is the undeniable and unhideable TRUTH!!!
“difficult times”…is merely SCRIPTED PROPAGANDA…meant solely for the Sheeple of the World!!!
Tony Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Yes, shameless propaganda, becoming more and more crass to the ears of people who know better.
Of course that speech wasn’t for us. It was for the millions and millions of people that still believe this. You can still get into a fist fight even suggesting Iraq or Afghanistan had nothing to do with freedom. “My son fought in Iraq!” As if that alone justifies the war…
It may be 2009, but humanity might as well still be hunting Mastodons on the frozen tundras of the Paleolithic Age.
If the last 2 invasions and occupations of Iraq serve as any indication, unless the US keeps a sizable force in Iraq, the entire country is going to revert to a nationalistic state as soon as the Americans leave. McCain’s 100 years in Iraq might not be too far off. It seems as if we are going to keep a military force there permanently, like Germany and Japan. Like an ugly scar, the Iraqis will eventually, unfortunatley learn to live it.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Semantics – and deception. “Normalization” and “security and prosperity” mean Iraqi citizens having to identify themselves everywhere at all times. Coming to an Agenda 21 city near you.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
So fuck gold and silver, buy iraqi money now.
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Only a matter of time until they decide to start a new major conflict. It looks like it might be Iran, seeing as it’s shaping up to be Iraq #2. I wrote an article on this. I usually don’t link things here but you can check it out here if you want: It’s called Iran: Iraq #2 – http://www.americareclaimed.com/iraq-number-two
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
The four stages of a subversion: 1) Demoralization, 2) Destabilization, 3) Crisis, 4) Normalization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
more bullshit rhetoric from the 3rd antichrist named “Mabus” by Nostradamus
dont trust a word from this muslim terrorist with black lips and a forked tongue
obama needs to go for good
http://www.beastobama.com
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
obama is a puppet on a string
Sam Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
True Obama is loosing his prestige now, after 1 million dead Iraqies he believes now he is on the right path ? I think hes totally lost his mind.
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
THE MAN FROM KENYA The issue also was raised by CNN’s Larry King this week, in a conversation with Liz Cheney, a former State Department official and daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney.
“I think the Democrats have got more crazies than the Republicans do,” Liz Cheney said. “But setting that aside, one of the reasons you see people so concerned about this … people are uncomfortable with having for the first time ever, I think, a president who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas.”
IS THE JEWISH LOBBY PISS ABOUT OBOMA NOT ATTACKING IRAN?
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm
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July 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
“Our unconstitutional “president” born in Kenya”, is the way this new world tyrant should be referred to in all conversation ! The word president is in lower case on purpose !
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Obama is a trashy bastard……………http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxCqJImpOAE
July 24th, 2009 at 1:29 am
CORPORATE WHORES DO OBAMA’S DIRTY WORK!
The owner of a business that sells conservative bumper stickers and other merchandise at Concord Mills says he’s being kicked out for political reasons.
“It’s completely about politics,” said Loren Spivack, owner of the Free Market Warrior. “Half the stores in that mall sold pro-Obama merchandise for months. All I did was present an alternative opinion, and that’s what became so controversial.”
Since opening his business in a kiosk last spring, Spivack has sold conservative-themed items. They include bumper stickers that say “Impeach Obama” and baby bibs that say “My parents chose life. Thanks Mom and Dad!”
Spivack said the mall is terminating his lease at the end of next week.
Mall officials declined to comment. Representative Ashley Cameron said the mall doesn’t discuss landlord-tenant negotiations.
The Observer reported the Free Market Warrior’s opening last spring. Spivack traces his problems to a letter to the editor last month that criticized his shop, saying it promoted “ideas such as racism, sexism and even slavery.”
Spivack denies that. He notes that Mel Simon, co-chair of mall owner Simon Property Group, has given generously to Democratic candidates.
Spivack also says he’s found other stores at the mall that sell T-shirts and other merchandise with offensive X-rated slogans.
“It’s really unfair that both I and my employees are being chased out of here for purely political reasons,” he said.
Jim Morrill: 704-358-5059
THE WATCHER Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:56 am
NO MORE PURCHASES FROM SIMON OWNED MALLS FOR ME!
websuspect Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 am
Ask the israelis that work at dead sea secrets, Deja Vu, Hair curly stand or bean warmer thingies if they work for mossad, are they here illegally on work Visas. You will make new friends.
July 24th, 2009 at 7:53 am
REMEMBER WACO.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3w4HIMHpY
July 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
When you kill over a million innocent people there is no “normal”, and it will come back to bite the u.s. in the ass. And rightly so.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none.”
– attributed to Jefferson.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
roaddog, it’s called “boomerang effect”
July 26th, 2009 at 4:28 am
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