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UK motorists could face driving ban after two speeding tickets
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Lee Glendinning
The Guardian
November 20, 2008
Motorists could be automatically banned from the road after two speeding tickets under government reforms unveiled today.
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The tougher measures would apply to drivers who break the speed limit by a significant margin. Other proposals involve drivers under the influence of alcohol and drugs.
Those who twice break the speed limit by a large margin – 20mph or more – could be given six penalty points, resulting in a potential ban after two offences. A driver with 12 points is automatically disqualified.
Currently drivers receive a £60 fine and three points regardless of their speed.
Provisional government figures showed this month that the number of people killed on the roads this spring fell by 20% compared with the same period in 2007.
There were 580 fatalities between April and June 2008, compared with 721 in the same three months last year.
Jim Fitzpatrick, the roads safety minister, said more could be done to cut the numbers. He will outline the proposals in a written statement to the Commons.
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November 20th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
This is half-true.
I did 50mph in a 30mph zone and was charged in court with speeding and ordered to pay £90.
The charges this speaks of is motorway speeding, which is generally limited at 70mph. Those found speeding in excess of 100mph were always heavily punished but these new enforcements are less open to question and hence the “do it twice and banned” stance.
I’m against stupid laws which oppress people, but this one isn’t so bad.
K
November 20th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
My God! When are the people of the U.K. going to get enough? Do they not care about all of the crap they are forced to put up with? After all they went through with Dunkirk and after all of them that died fighting the Nazi’s, I would hope they would make a fuss about becoming complete slaves to the very same scumbags! I hope that the remaining “true Americans” don’t allow our nation to become such a pussy wipped pile of brain dead NWO boot lickers. Has any of the damn cameras that have been put up in the U.K. stopped anything? OH Yah, you do get the occasional entertaining clip of some drunk and frustrated rugby player smashing shop windows, but what good has it really done? I doubt that many of them even care. They’ve been a tired and defeated nation for two hundred plus years, even longer if you consider they were slaves to their system even then, being led around by a bunch of snobs in funny wigs. Come on England! You guys are better than this. If your one of the rare Brits that have been fighting then good going… if not get in the fight while you still can before Tony Blair and his buddies comes to your home and turns you into a bunch of bickering women. GOD! The same goes for Australia, you used to be hard as nails and demanded respect and we loved you for it, but look at you now. A bunch of woosed out gungrabbing NWO workhorses. We can beat these guys if we just stand up and refuse to go along with this crap! Lets get together like we’ve done soo many times before and really make a difference here and maybe save the future for all of our children, if not, I’d rather not think of the alternative.
November 20th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
It sounds like the uk wants its tax payers to be nothing but robots. I think thats where this c---tree is taking us too.
November 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
This does not make sense at all. They want to prevent fatalities but on the other hand the NWO wants to kill us all. I am confuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 21st, 2008 at 12:53 am
#5 Legend 702
It’s not even about traffic safety!
It is about CONTROL and EMASCULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be well. Keep reading and listening;soon you will learn sufficiently.
Seal
November 21st, 2008 at 1:26 am
F.J. Are you serious criticizing the people of the U.K. putting up with “Crap” when the U.S.A. has just elected its first terrorist President??
November 21st, 2008 at 1:30 am
F.J. You are joking, criticizing the people of the U.K. when the U.S.A. has just elected its first terrorist President. You are clearly unaware of the distinction between crap and treason. Good luck mate.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:21 am
“But Officer, I’m not speeding, I’m qualifying”.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:49 am
Ban them after 1 ticket I say.
In fact Id shoot them so you can be sure it never happens again.
My mother has a drivers liscence and if you go speeding past her, you’re likely to get half a dozen people killed.
People that speed are to immature to be in control of a tonne of metal and plastic in a public place.
My mum is too mature to have a liscence but she only drives a 20kmh anyway.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:32 am
It’s all about restricting free travel. They’re getting ready to lock you into those compact cities.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:22 am
3 tickets in NEW ZEALAND automatically banned it has been law for a few years.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:41 am
Speed kills, the people moaning about this law obviously have not witnessed a high speed road crash. There is no need for high speed.. drink or drug driving and no place for it in society
November 21st, 2008 at 7:22 am
yeah speed kills but so does lots of other things. i agree that there is no need to go around everywhere at silly speeds when you really dont actually get anywhere much quicker, unless your in pure open country. but banning people for having 2 tickets is ludicrous (and you can bet your ass there will be a big fine attached to it too)
they will never cease to think of more and more ways to sqeeze money from you, the motorist. because thats what this really is about, they couldnt give a f--- about peoples well being. also it tightens controls.
sure, if everyone drives responsibly the numbers of deaths will fall on our roads but never the less, 2 tickets and your banned is very harsh indeed in my opinion.
November 21st, 2008 at 9:06 am
It’s even worse in the Scandinavian countries; any infraction there results in a confiscation of your driving license, even a 1km over the speed limit infraction.
November 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am
who cares if they take the license. they can do what us americans do and still drive.. it is not like they can stop us from getting to work and places we need to get to.
November 21st, 2008 at 11:57 am
Good – the British drivers are the worst drivers there are second to none.
November 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
quote: Good – the British drivers are the worst drivers there are second to none.
Ever been to India? Infact ever left your own town?
November 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I’d recommend those of you who are interested in the subject to go look up Captain Gatso’s website. I’m sure plenty of the British posters here will have heard of him as it was on the news and posibly Crimewatch.
This guy started up some Camera resistance movement where they took the cameras out by setting them on fire or smashing them up.
I’m not sure if the guy was ever caught (there was probably a gang on them) but it was fairly interesting to see what happens when the government push people to far.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Our area is full of those ‘helpful’ Community Speedwatch pensioners with their radar guns. Just slow down (20 m/hr) and wave…. Their faces are worth slowing down for. Miserable lot, they are.
Who hasn’t done 90-100 m/hr on the motorway?! That’s the way we keep the traffic moving.
I think that’s a bit harsh to be banned for just 2 tickets.
November 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
yeh all this is to make driveing more fun and less stressfull, because we poor ar scrapping up cash for travel, and can a poor man have a car…yes.
but not for long, even a mid class will find it hard, i for one dont have a licence, never had 1, drive where and when i want.
anyway… its to lighten the roads at any expence, note that the elite will and do brake all the road rules here and there, nothing happens to them
and wont
like i said, the elite want the streets, cars are the 1st hit, then walking, hahahaha walking will be illigale,
haha if you walk to fast, your not aloud to have your walking licence in sertain areas, get ready folks, FOR THE WALKING LICENCES
HW Spartan
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:45 am
Studies have shown http://driverstechnology.co.uk/Morisurvey.pdf that people using a radar detector are 28% less likely to have an accident but they are still trying to make them illegal in the UK. It has also been shown that speed traps actually increase the number of fatalities on a road. However they do reduce speeding and raise money.
Since most people break the speed to some degree the police data always shows that speed was a factor. This new policy is to give the police greater powers since they don’t seem to be very effective with the powers they have. Problem, Reaction, Solution again.
It’s obvious the media are softening us up for this because they keep focusing on reletives of people who have been killed by speeding and drunk driving motorists. I am sure anyone who has just had a loved one killed by some careless c--- in a car will want them hung drawn and quartered. This does not mean they’re the best people to advise on traffic law.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
“Currently drivers receive a £60 fine and three points regardless of their speed.”
That is not true. You fine id dependent upon your speed.
http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Ac.....SFines.htm
“36mph or more over the posted limit £67-£300″
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
http://www.truthism.com
December 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am
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