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UN says eat less meat to curb global warming
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Juliette Jowit
The Observer,
September 7, 2008
People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world’s leading authority on global warming has told The Observer
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Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.
His comments are the most controversial advice yet provided by the panel on how individuals can help tackle global warning.
Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel’s chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems – including habitat destruction – associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.
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September 7th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Sure, whatever you say your excellency high commissioner of league of united nations sir.
Oh when will this all be over? Somebody please hit the “restart” button already…
September 7th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
C.U.F.F. = CITIZENS UNITED FOR FREEDOM.
To unite once a month in protest and boycott against the United Sttates Government.
When: The 11th day of every month
What: Protest 911 and the N.W.O.
To also take money out of the hands of the government to stop the N.W.O.
How: Stay home from work (if at all possible), This will take tax dollars out of their hands.
Do not buy anything (especially gasoline unless it is used to drive to a local protest), This will take tax dollars out of their hands and out of the hands of the oil companies.
Do not buy ANYTHING on that day. This will take tax dollars out of their hands.
Do not use electricity to light your house on the night of the 11th…..BURN CANDLES in rememberance of those who lost their lives that day. This will save you money that can be put toward burning dvd’s and handing them out at the local protest.
Do not deposit money, do not do business transactions, do not eat out,…NOTHING!
Do form a local protest group. Do help spread the word about 911 and the N.W.O.
Pass this on to everyone you know. We will make the 11th of EVERY month a day of protest against the 911 cover-up and the N.W.O. We will effectivly take money out of the hands of those who cover up 911 and are creating the N.W.O.
WE WILL TIE THE HANDS OF THOSE WHO BIND US…C.U.F.F. THEM.
We are the ones who ultimatly financially support what they are doing. If we do not buy, they make no money to create all the bad things we are now facing. Please stand with me on this on the 11th day of EVERY month. Together we can make a difference.
September 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
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September 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
soon it will be people should go one day a week without eating anything. The brain washed sheep will buy into this and soon we will only be allowed to eat meals every second day by law. But the masses will love this since it will cut down on how many cows are farting out in the pasture.
September 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
…Ah-bdi… I say less meat for less karma !!! As it is , mistreating and slaughtering trillions of innocent animals is a good 70% of why this planet is in the mess it is and skating on thin ice !!!
But meat production is also very wasteful , for the energy required to produce 1 ton of meat , you can produce 7 to 8 tons of vegetables !!! Finally , regular meat eating is bad on a human body !!!
September 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
5, sorry but most of the religions who support not eating meat believe that all creatures even plants have spirits, so well either way we kill to eat, and I an’t giving up meat to fix my karma.
There is no global warming, or cooling, there are earth cycles, and that is the way it is, but the elites will use it to start new industries, control the populace, and set up their one world government.
So off for some steak, damn this makes me hungry.
Or maybe some pork chops, yum.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Rob, look at thoe brainwashed sheep who fast because some book, priest, or god told them too. People today will guy anyting, and you are right they are sheep. some take offense to that, but it is true, and reality is where it is at.
It is all meant to control us, and if you can get people to screw up their diets you will make them weak, and that is where they want us, too weak to fighht, then they will move in and take over.
People, or should I say sheaeple are stupid.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Porky Pig FIRST OFF YOU IDIOT!!! FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS HUMANS WERE NOT AGRICULTURALISTS!!!! MEANING WE DID NOT RAISE OUR OWN VEGETABLES IN THE MASS QUANTITIES WE DO TODAY!!! ALSO…. HUMAN BEINGS FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS WOULD HUNT HUNT HUNT HUNT THEIR FOOD AND COOK IT OVER AN OPEN FIRE! THE REASON MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT MEAT IS UNHEALTHY IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT GET ENOUGH PHYSICAL ACTIVITY ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE!! THE AEROBIC AND ANAROBIC ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH LIVING THE WAY WE DID FOR MILLENIA KEPT OUR BODIES CLEANSED BY KILLING OLD DEAD CELLS AND MOVING WASTE FROM OUR BODIES AT A FASTER RATE THAN WE SEE TODAY!!! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EATING MEAT IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR LEVEL OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY OR LACK THERE OF! THIS STATEMENT BY THIS UN LEADER IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE EUGENICS ASSHOLES MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THE WAY YOU AND I SHOULD LIVE WHEN HE AND HIS BUDDIES HAVE NO INTENSION OF FOLLOWING THEIR OWN RULES BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!! I GIVE YOU AL GORE AS AN EXAMPLE LOOK AT THAT DUDES ENERGY CONSUMPTION FOR HIS HOME IT MAKES 30 AVERAGE HOMES LOOK LIKE NOTHING!!!
HOORAH AND SEMPER FI!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I think I’m gonna have a big fat steak now (I don’t like to freeze:)
If you had another cold and rainy summer like we had in Germany again,
yyou’re not so sure about this ‘global schmorming’ agenda
Freedom & Peace
September 7th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I’ll have one meat-free day a week if the UN agrees to have one less globalist a week.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
The truth of the matter is that meat is bad for you, factory farming is horrifically abusive to animals, and all the hormones they pump the animals full of end up in YOUR system. Don’t do what McDonald’s tells you to do just because the UN says to do something else.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
It’s also worth noting that grotesque meat overconsumption in the west directly lead to higher grain prices that starve those in the Third World. Keep eating your hamburgers, you fat stupid Americans, and help out these Nazis in their plans to completely depopulate the world!
September 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
LONG LIVE BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
How can you eat your pudding if you don’t eat your meat.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
This actually isn’t a bad idea since clear-cutting of forests for farm lands is a huge problem.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Well eating less meat really makes sense, but not because of global warming. Eat less meat and buy more expensive one, instead of the cheap mass production stuff from the supermarkets. Meat which you know its locally producted. Its better for the animals better for the environment and better for you! Here in Europe cattle is fed by GMO soy, fish and animal meal. GMO soy for meat production enforces the destruction of the rain forests in Brasil, while fish meal causes overfishing of the seas (especially around Chile and Peru). Well recycling cadavers for animal meal makes sense in some way but causes disseases like BSE, which come at least to us. You can do that step by step. I for example love fast food but I eat that only every 2-3 weeks. At home I began with one vegetarian day per week, now I have 2 meat days and 5 vegetarian days and ill stick to that without missing anything.
So eat less meat but better meat. Please!
September 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Now then, is there any more proof left to realize that Global Warming is one big Hoax or do you need more ?
September 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
this is sheer madness haha
September 7th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
animals
since it is already direction humans
September 7th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
5, sorry but most of the religions who support not eating meat believe that all creatures even plants have spirits, so well either way we kill to eat, and I an’t giving up meat to fix my karma.
There is no global warming, or cooling, there are earth cycles, and that is the way it is, but the elites will use it to start new industries, control the populace, and set up their one world government.
So off for some steak, damn this makes me hungry.
Or maybe some pork chops, yum.
You speak the truth here.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
I’ll stop eating beef once a week, if the United Nations stops lying so much and bleeding their coffers dry to support murdering despots all over the world and grows a set of balls to stop all the death and RAPE of women in Africa. I would also require all United Nations Troopers to have a blood test on file so as to identify which of the Troopers is commiting a lot of the rapes themselves.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
…Ah-bdi…#7″Are you asleep” Plants have no central nervous system , no eyes to speak of and certainly don’t feel the pain a cute calf feels when separated from his mother , beaten the crap out of , and put in a box where he can’t move at all , only to be fed to some fat fuck !!! The “elite” as you call them are Rakshashas (vampires) here to tear you meatheads a new asshole !!!
September 7th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Most of the meat you eat today is very unhealthy because of the conditions in which the livestock is raised and fed. So that should be your motivation for eating less of it. Now if you can find a farm where the animals are raised properly and receive the proper diet then go for it. That meat is not only good for you but essential for good health. I get all of my meat and dairy from a farm where the cows are raised on a pasture, no hormones, no antibiotics and raised humanely. It’s obviously a lot more expensive but it’s definately worth it. I want to live to see the day that these NWO f*** holes are exposed and defeated. Don’t let the NWO kill you slowly with their mass Eugenics genocide program.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
…Ah-bdi…#9″Ezra” Don’t call me an idiot , I’ll leave you with your adam’s apple in your pocket , you
“Semper fuck” !!!
September 7th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Meat is not “essential” for good health. It’s true that animals raised by responsible farmers are going to lead to much less harmful meat than the stuff that comes from factory farms (which accounts for nearly all meat in grocery stores and restaurants), and if you MUST eat meat, it’s much better to be responsible to your own body and to the world. However, to call meat essential is ridiculous and false.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Beef makes me gaseous anyway. So, if I stop eating it altogether, I’ll stop farting thereby reducing my emissions which lead to global warming. Ok. Got it.
September 7th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
…Ah-bdi…#24″Dave” Meat eating animals have short and wide bowels , to expel quickly because meat putrifies quickly , whereas humans have long and narrower bowels , hence many health problems !!! Anyway , where is your compassion ??? Don’t expect it for you if you don’t have any for other living beings !!! Anyway , for info , when I look in a meat eater’s eyes , I’m supposed to jump in the Ganges to purify myself !!!
September 7th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Just eat meat with rice, noodles, pasta, bread, etc… Meat should not be the main staple in any diet. Pasta, rice, and bread should be the main staple. Also eat more fish, shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, oysters, shells, etc… to offset the beef, chicken, and pork demand. Heck, pickup a shotgun and go turkey hunting or grouse or quail, etc…
Meat provides protein which are building blocks for growth. If you are not doing much growing as a kid would, you don’t need much meat. You do need energy provided by carbs and veggie/fruits for vitamins, minerals, etc… Glutney is one of the 7 deadly sins. Eat to live not live to eat. Obesity=Glutney. It is eating more than you need.
September 7th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Lets not simply go by the enemy of my enemy is my friend without looking at the issue or simply disagreeing with EVERYTHING said by NWO control facists.
We eat TOO MUCH meat! We, especially those fighting the NWO, need to maintain healthy mind, spirit, and body. Get your exercise, eat your veggies, and YES eat LESS meat.
September 7th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
what ever bovine emissions are the #1 cause of global warming. EAT MORE BEEF to keep the cattle from farting all over the place and save the planet at the same time.
In the Netherlands they are shoving a hose connected to a big plastic bag up their cows asses to catch their cow farts. I can’t wait to see people running around with fart catchers stuck up their butt.
September 7th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Good article
September 7th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Well maybe that’s why it’s cooling now because people are eating less beef right? right?
September 7th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
” If God did not want people to eat animals, he wouldn’t have made them out of meat”
September 7th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
I’m thinking the majority of people on the planet already don’t eat meat 7 days a week, whether that be for religious, famine or just variety’s sake.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Global warming? Suck my dick. Fuck off. Total bullshit.
Google video “the great global warming swindle” or, Iron Mountain.
The globe is always fucking warm. Or cold. Who gives a solitary fuck?
Revolving around at around hmm, 25,000 mph? And performing a yearly cycle of around 365 days?
Let me ask you this- and mind you I am a direct descendant of Isaac Newton- who took the photos of the first steps on the moon? Where was he standing? And the buggy? How the fuck did the supposed lunar module exit the planet when the buggy was to big to fit of the fucking craft to begin with?
How did that piece of shit land on the fuckin moon- reverse thrusters? And what has NASA done since then officially regarding the moon?
I believe we have been to the moon, and have bases there, and on other planets. But I don’t think it is because of conventional tech.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
It’s all the second hand smoke commin’ outta them pot smokers that’s causing all this global warming & shit. They should install cameras in every American’s hope to help curb marijuana smoking and them terrorizers. USA, USA, USA!!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
only truth, do you think you have k9s for, leaves? did you ground yours off to make you feel better? the meat you get in the grocery store isnt the healthiest, but you need it. i generaly harvest my own meat and can feel it energize me every time. i eat a salad and i am on the pooper constantly. maybe you like poopin alot.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
you say “Meat eating animals have short and wide bowels , to expel quickly because meat putrifies quickly , whereas humans have long and narrower bowels , hence many health problems !!!”
i agree with you, but id like to know why does it taste so damn delicious?
September 7th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
This has to be the biggest load of crap. The UN doesn’t know shit from Shinola about anything anyway. I’m credited with part of a nobel peace prize eat less meat. Somebody pimp smack Dr. Pachauri with a giant rib eye please!
September 7th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
MEAT IS MURDER! I personally dont support the Meat Industry. Animal cruelty slaughter houses and the ingestion of flesh is making humans psychotic. I used to have a colonic irrigation business I have seen worms and peutrification come out of human beings that is so gross and stank, I under stand cancer and other diseases come from rotting flesh in the colon. People who eat meat also take on the animal characteristics by way of flesh ingestion. Find alternative forms of protein. Meat is not the way MCB
September 7th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Merrie Says: September 7th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
MEAT IS MURDER! I personally dont support the Meat Industry. Animal cruelty slaughter houses and the ingestion of flesh is making humans psychotic. I used to have a colonic irrigation business I have seen worms and peutrification come out of human beings that is so gross and stank, I under stand cancer and other diseases come from rotting flesh in the colon. People who eat meat also take on the animal characteristics by way of flesh ingestion. Find alternative forms of protein. Meat is not the way MCB
A little insight from OJB here… meat and other sources of animal protein are indispensable to a human or for that matter primate diet. Obviously you’re confusing your own species with that of the panda and even they with their unusual diet of mostly bamboo require eggs and fish to maintain their health and strength.
Btw… just a another little veggie secret while we’re at it and I’m sure you’re not being told where you got the “Meat causes colon cancer” from… Soy attacks the brain. In people eating it regularly in high quantities it causes soy cretinism which is rampant in China where people can not afford normal sources of protein.
You are what you eat, how true and eating all vegetable will turn you into a vegetable… which is precisely what we want… we don’t want cunning predators, instead we want you weak and meek… so don’t eat meat… it’s not good for the environment or your attitude.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Small amounts of dairy and some eggs from free-range organic vegetarian-fed chickens from a distributor you trust are the only animal protein sources you need. All forms of meat aside from fish are proven to cause cancer. The problem with fish in 2008 is that our oceans are fucked up, so that’s not really much of an option either, unless you want to consume a lot of heavy metals. (and farmed fish don’t have the same omega 3 or nutrient levels wild fish would have.) The fact of the matter is that meat is terrible in all sorts of ways, and we’d all be better off ditching it. Anti-soy propaganda showing up here is disconcerting. Take traditional Japanese culture — Buddhist ethics forbade killing animals, but an exception was made for fish. Their protein sources were only fish and soy, and they developed a strong, beautiful, healthy culture. It wasn’t until after WWII that they adopted a western diet heavy on beef, and it should be noted that after this time, balding rates in men (which can be seen as a mere symptom of prostate disease and cancer) skyrocketed.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Well, that’s it. Looks like I’m going to be eating steak every meal now. Screw the UN.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
if we weren’t meant to eat meat then we wouldn’t have k9 teeth for tearing flesh (as all carnivore and omnivores do) as well as molers for grinding up plant matter. the deffining factor on whether an aminal is carvnivorus or not IS the formstion of they’re teeth. besides global warming is a faust. it’s another form of control for us “sheeple” and is the justification for launching a global carbon tax. cant you see how the elite try to manipulate us all?!
September 7th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
im with clay rains. i love meat, and i wont let the globalist tell me what i can and cant do or eat. i’m sick to death of these globalist telling us how to live.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Clay Rains, I hope your slow descent into dementia caused by mad cow disease isn’t too unpleasant for your family. “Screw the globalists” by being an unhealthy, unethical stupid, fat dumb American…. uh, good idea, yeah.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Meat is murder . I guess we Native Americans , the Africans , people indigenous to South America , and
the Aboriginal tribes are Murderers . Funny how the faux naturalists give false homage to Tribal people when they want to feel inclusive . But in the next breath condemn their very means of survival and hand over
the ability to do so to our tyrannical government . In the name of animal rights and conservation Native people ( and You ) are completely enslaved to the government for food gathering . And, don’t give me your
I grow and eat my own weeds BS . The government has also gained control of the individuals rights to grow
vegetables . We no longer have the right to gather or grow food on our own lands . If you don’t know that .
you have never heard of rewilding . As soon as martial law becomes a reality you will see you are totally dependent on the government for food . Welcome to the reservation !
September 7th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
i can not stand when jerk off vegetarians call everyone that eats meat fat. i am not fat and most of my family isn’t fat and we eat meat. granted i eat all grass fed and organic meat but still eating meat doesn’t make you unhealthy. if you eat meat every meal then yes it is unhealthy. i don’t know what anti-soy propaganda has been brought up but soy milk is truly bad for you. the soy has to be alkalized in the process of it being turned into soy milk.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Are predatory animals murderers when they kill to survive? Humans are built to survive and flourish on meat/fish and veggies. A varied and balanced diet is the key to prime health. Just because some people consider ‘meat to be murder’ doesn’t change the fact that we are biologically suited to eat meat. There are plenty of people who consider themselves to be ‘compassionate carnivores’. Not everyone who eats meat is a selfish unfeeling monster.
Note: There is a lot of evidence to support the claims regarding the dangers of soy. Soy has never been the staple of a successfully healthy culture. It’s only recently that soy has found it’s way into mainsteam dieting and vegetarian foods.
As a rule of thumb when it comes to your health don’t trust the latest fads or what the government or health magazines tell you. Trust the successful traditional diets that have maintained healthy cultures for thousands of years through the course of human evolution.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Hey, what about curbing bovine flatulence?
September 7th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I will be sure to start eating more meat. Naturally raised of course. I will also be having more than one child. They will be home schooled and educated about the truth.
Here is a piece of good news. People at work who didn’t want to hear about the truth of 9/11 and everything else over the last couple of years have started coming back to me and asking if I still have those movies to give them. I sure do. I’ve been getting a lot of that lately. I give actual hard copies in the boxes still wrapped to the people who are most promising. I’ve gone from about 10% of people at work to about 50% who are now in the know.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Good job #54, Gold and Silver. I too have done that with many friends and family who got very mad at my suggestion at this stuff.
First stage is denial, then anger, but the seed is planted. Then they start looking around at what is happening in the world and begin waking up, then come back to you for more information.
That’s all we can do. Our job is not to convince people of anything, but to encourage them to seek the Truth for themselves.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
I’m eating a big FAT steak right now . . . mmmmm . . . . . yummmmy
. . . global warming never tasted soooo goooood . . . .
I think I’ll have another
September 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
MEAT IS MURDER………..TASTY, TASTY, MURDER.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
to only truth, im an aussie who eats meat on a daily basis and i weigh approx 110 lbs! im helthy, and fit, i have many ethics (which is why i’m against the nwo, and ppl like you, who are so determind to tells us all how to live!) and i am deffinately not stupid or dumb (which actually means unable to speak) so how about you go get educated properly before you launch your stereotypical attack on people with their own minds. also, mad cows disease was created and spread by the government! i hope u enjoy you fast slide into servitude!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
MAYBE, WE SHOULD ALL BECOME CANNIBLES AND JUST EAT EACH OTHER. WE WILL NOT BE RAISING THOSE EVIL COWS AND CHICKENS THAT ARE KILLING OUR PLANET, WHILE GETTING RID OF ANOTHER USELESS EATER IN THE PROCESS. I PLAN ON BEGINING WITH THE VEGETARIAN AT THE UN. I HEAR VEGETARIANS ARE QUITE TENDER.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
heh, even as a vegetarian i can say this claim is bogus. being vegetarian may have the environment, but that’s only because it would reduce the amount of pesticides because 60% of all crops go to feed livestock. and yeah, cattle may fart but volcanoes contribute more to effecting weather than a bunch of cows. this is just scare mongering.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
If people ate less meat wouldnt that mean more cattle running round, unless they put a cap on how many animals a farmer can rear, i have a better idea lets ban baked beans and stupid old farts that talk out there ar**
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
These same control freaks killed millions of buffalo/bison during the latter half of the 19th century.I mean really, why did they kill millions of buffalo? The plains indians, who were strong and healthy warriors from their high meat consumption(buffalo) were a real threat to the elites and their war machines.
Diets high in protein like meat and dairy make for a stronger healthier more vibrant population. Clearly, the elites want a docile weak populace.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I am glad that finally someone comes out and say it in the open. If I remember it right, to get 1 unit output of red meat, you put in 14 units of input (such as wheats, grass) .. and it takes 25 times more water than 1 unit of wheat. Basically eating read meat is bad for the environment, about 14 to 25X more out put can be consumed by human than consume 1 unit of red meat.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I agree, but people in this country especially, eat too much period. I went into the grocery store the other day and saw a mom and two children and all three of them had to run close to a thousand pounds and I’m not shitting you. So fucking fat they can’t even get into their car, when they leave with enough food to feed a fucking a small village in Asia. It is disgusting. Buffet stuffers, and the medical community still keeps these people alive, another twenty years longer than they should, when their arteries bind up with bacon grease and T.V. dinners. You want to be a pig, and poison your own children with your disgusting diet, and support unsustainable development through your consumer spending, at least have the courtesy to fucking die from your obesity, and type two diabetes, in a timely manner. The good news is all you people eating the disgusting preservative inundated shit food and all meat jacked up with antibiotics and hormones, your changing your genetics and your children’s genetics, so hopefully you fat fucks, will just become so unhealthy, you’ll be incapable of producing a viable gene pool. I don’t see how you stick it in there now to begin with? You lift your gut up and pray for a wet spot ? Disgusting fat bodies, deserve to live in a Police State, the only way to get you to stop eating for a minute, is to club you over the head, and take it from you.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
People have no respect for themselves or the world they live in. I bet most of you soft, flabby, morons, don’t have the balls to #1 even kill a thousand pound plus, living animal, but to hang it up, gut it, dress it, and portion it up, I don’t think so. Big and tough, till you cut that stomach cavity open and the smell hits your nose, and the guts start plopping onto the floor. As somebody who has worked on a beef and hog farm, and butchered since a very young age, people don’t understand how many resources it takes to grow a single head of cattle. More land has been cleared for the sake of livestock pastures than anything else. Livestock does produce large amounts of methane. It does kill the land and water. Eat venison and wild turkey, it’s leaner, healthier, and it is free, and they are still a part of the natural order. Not corporate subsidized ecocide. One vegetarian meal a week seems pretty conservative in my opinion. A friend of mine’s brother died last month, at twenty seven years old. He weighed seven hundred pounds when he died. Hadn’t been out of his house for two years. They had to build a special coffin, and they couldn’t use pallbearers needless to say, they needed a fucking crane. You get that big you should become a ward of the state, and given government issued food allowances, or locked up in an institution. That is food terrorism.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
THIS IS ALL BASED ON (global warming) A LIE! why even concider changing the way you do and want to live because of this non-existent global FAUST! it’s all about controling every aspect of our lives! congrats #63! the wisest comment on here! the elite want us all weak and docile, thats why theres sodium fluoride in the drinking water, (and tooth paste, recomended use after each meal!) and now they’re irradiating food like poultry, meat, nuts, and recently announced, vegetables as well, to remove any nutritional value it contains.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
#65, my opinion is people should be allowed to live HOWEVER they want to AS LONG AS it doesn’t directly harm others. why should anybody have the right to tell someone else that the way they want to live is wrong! theres a thing called freedom, which is quickly dying, because a few people (nwo) think they know whats best for all of us. so if they want to be fat useless slobs that just sit and feed their faces. let them, its their life and their health problems. dont waste your time worrying about them, live how you want.
September 7th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
…i’m still laughing about the post that said in the netherlands they put hoses with bags attatched up the cows asses to catch the gas…what do they do with all those gassy bags?
September 7th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
# 65 you have a big mouth for a little tooth pick I would love to dance with you
September 7th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
@ pindar #67, I agree, the radiation of our food is highly problematic. Take California pistachios. In the last decade California has become the world’s most prolific pistachio producer. Pistachios are an incredible food source. However, the vast majority of pistachios found in our grocery stores, are now being dry roasted and this depletes the nut of it;s oil. The nut oil is packed with nutrients. A dry roasted pistachio is virtually devoid of nutrients(in addition to being less tasty). Whereas a pistachio with its full compliment of oils is tasty and nutritious.
All these over weight amerikans are over weight NOT because of too much protein, they are over weight because so much of our food is being tampered with. Tampered with a wide array of substances and actions(radiation /dry roasting).
September 7th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
The Meat has staff, strep,& cancer causing agents. Meat is filthy and loaded with germs! Eating meat makes your animal heavy and crave meat. No more quarter pounder with cheese, OMG. what will I do? Kill your dog eat your dog! I hate to say it folks I know its offensive to meat eaters but meat is filthy. If you eat meat you have internal maggots living in your colon. The staff I see coming out of humans is really a filthy thing. Ill never fuck a meat eater! Sorry folks thats just the way it is now go beat your meat !LOL MCB
September 8th, 2008 at 12:05 am
…Ah-bdi… A lot of you people got your head up your ass !!! We have canines to help us eat fruits also , even though to survive you may sometimes have to eat meat !!! Now if you kill a dangerous animal with bow and arrow , or a sword , or a knife , and he has a chance to defend himself , then the karma isn’t so bad , or nil , depending on if it was fair n’ square !!! Soy beans are for animals to eat ( and even at that , not that great ) Milk products are crucial , and replace meat !!! Things like fresh curd cheese ( i.e. fresh boiling milk + citric acid or lemon juice turns = curd ) are great , incidently that’s what Gengis Kahn fed his troops , you retarded meatheads !!! Clarified butter is ten times more nourishing than meat , so if you deep fry with it or use it as a base to fry some spices in a vegetables prep , you’ll feel the diff !!! That’s why cows are sacred , because they give milk like a mother ( every “human” consumes milk in one form or another !!! ) As far as this bovine farts crap is concerned , you’ll believe any insane statement except the truth !!! Try fleets of Mac trucks + billions of cars , lawnmowers , airblowers , huge factories n’ more for pollution , you retards ( cows have been around since time immemorial ) Watch ” Earthlings ” if you can handle it ( and probably you can , just like you can handle babies or puppies being killed ) cos you think you’re real tough ( Here’s looking at you , til we meet… )
September 8th, 2008 at 1:59 am
Re Michelle: You have a number of conceptions about Hinduism that are totally wrong. Firstly, Hinduism is NOT polytheistic. Yes, there are some polytheistic Hindus, but the theological traditions within Hinduism are monotheistic, monistic, pantheistic, panentheistic and atheistic, but not polytheistic.
Secondly, Hindus do not worship the cow, they appreciate what the cow provides (ie milk and physical labor) and therefore they treat it with respect. Vegetarianism is a form of non-violence. It is a more humane way of living.
Lastly, your connection between Zionism and Hinduism is crazy. What evidence do you have? Hindus were vegetarian before the Jewish religion was formed, let along the political movement of zionism. Plus, the UN wasn’t calling for a kosher diet, but a day of vegetarianism.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:12 am
#70
With a name like Vengeance I suppose your a real bad ass. Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down, tough guy. It’s usually the ones looking for trouble that can’t take an ass whipping. The worst you could do to this face is put some more scars on the scar tissue. I’ve never been accused of backing down from somebody who directly threatens me. Aaron Williams, Cavetown, MD look me up, if you think I’m such a pushover, stop by and see me real soon. You come to my door looking for trouble, you better hope my toothpick ass isn’t home, or my little dog, for that matter. Remember that, after I gut shoot your ass, and your running for the brush pile, like a prey animal. I will defend myself, my family, and my property with extreme pre-justice. Count on the fight of your life, I will.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Meat eaters should eat meat, and Vegetarians can eat their veggies.
And when we run out of food, the meat eaters will eat the Vegetarians.
Problem solved.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:54 am
#71 its good to see there are still at least some informed (educated not indoctrinated) people out there. one of the main reason behind the nuts being irradiated/dry roasted (denaturing of the protein strains) is because they make up a large part of the protein intake in a vegeterian/vegan diet, so to ensure WE’RE ALL (vego’s AND meaties) UNHEALTHY they are genetically modifying ALL food types, such as nut’s, poultry, meat and yes even your vegetables! and as you can see from this comment section, meat eating is widely becoming unpopular, and the vegeterian DIEt is concidered healthy. thats why the kinds of foods that are irradiated make-up the majority of the vego/vegan DIEt. this once again is to keep US ALL weak and docile.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:57 am
#77 has makes a good case there. lol
September 8th, 2008 at 4:50 am
But I do not like green eggs and ham…………………………………or solent green for that matter……
September 8th, 2008 at 5:28 am
#76 your a mean minded piece of excrement aren’t you bubba, All you seem to do is flap there gums about fuck all friend, picking on the fat and obese people like the proverbial coward you are, Im ” aaron williams, cavetown MD” like anyone gives a shit who you are buckwheat. If I were to analyze your writing, i’d say you were a thin little man who lives on his own, with little or no friends and who has a perpencity towards homosexual tendencies, who hates his life and lot and compensates by persecuting those you deem lesser people than yourself, which sadly, in reality are very few, grow up you little turd, even you deserve to live.
September 8th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Global warming is nothing but BS. We’re labeled as evil because we drive cars, but now cow farts create more greenhouse gases? Yeah, right! Before cars, people used horses. Horses fart a lot. Before North America was taken over by Europeans and Spaniards, buffalo herds numbered in the millions. Buffalo fart a lot. Not to mention deer, rabbits, and any other animal with a butthole.
So now we’re evil for being meat eaters? What’s next? We’re evil for exhaling? I will concede there are inhumane animal handlers. Intentional cruelty for the sake of being cruel to an animal is wrong. I’m all for free range and chemical free farms. But I’m not giving up meat.
I don’t eat pork because I used to work in a pork plant and have seen the unclean methods of packaging. I’ve seen the diseases pigs come in with and still pass inspection. I know the USDA overlooks a lot of things. USDA inspected tags don’t mean a thing. Equipment isn’t cleaned properly by workers or sanitation. I’m sure I’d feel the same way about any food product if I worked in that specific plant industry. Like my grandmother told me….if you knew how it was made, you wouldn’t eat it.
Think ketchup is any different? Truckloads of tomatoes are dumped on a belt. Workers are supposed to remove any foreign objects before the tomatoes hit the wash and puree. Think they removed the dirt, dead bugs, mice and snakes before it went into the blades? Nope! I’ve gotten that bit of information from former Heinz workers. Think it’d be any different with any other fruit/vegetable/meat plant? Did you know the government allows a certain ppt (parts per trillion) of mouse poo in peanut butter? Think the government would let that become common knowledge?
Back in 2005, a woman in MO found a dead mouse packed in her peanut butter jar when she went to make her grandson a sandwich.
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4666629/detail.html
What do the Meat = Murder people think would happen if we never killed another animal? Deer, for example, would overpopulate and eat themselves into starvation. I don’t call that humane.
BTW, deer is the healthiest red meat out there. No cholesterol and hardly an ounce of fat. Cheaper and no worries about injected hormones. That’s how I’ll be stocking my freezer with meat. Deer and pheasant and turkey. Maybe even free range buffalo for a little more variety. No additional chemicals except what our sorry government has already dumped into the environment. Supplement that with a home grown garden and it’s almost self sufficient.
I’m keeping my meat and the UN can go back to counting cow farts. How humane is it to shove a tube up a cow’s butt so it can fart in a bag?
September 8th, 2008 at 6:04 am
I agree to some extent with this call. How many here can calculate what their amino acid intake really needs to be? Protein/amino acids are for building…….. carbs & fats are for energy…….
calculate within a few hundred cals. what you REALLY need……. your going to be REEEALLLY surprised with the #…. and that the FDA has been giving you a line of crap for years and you took their recommendations for calorie intake without question……. and then your surprised your fat America!!!!!!!!! food is a 4 profit business.
If you eating more than about 1000 calories per 24hrs or around 40 cal per hr…… your consuming WAY to much. Even the so called “experts” tell people to consume 1-2grams of protein per pound of body weight………… ARE YOU KIDDING ME………..
1gram per pound of LEAN MUSCLE not body weight.
even if the ave. man carried 50pds of lean muscle(NOT) thats 50grams of protein… which is roughly what…………. 8-10oz people…………. thats 2/ 4-5oz lean burgers…. thats it.
don’t believe me…… check it out? But let me ask you….. so you’d sooner believe the FDA….. the governments 2000cal a day model………. really……….?? OK…… you keep taking your daily intake of your government RDA of fluoride/chlorine acid to maintain that good Ph balance!!
September 8th, 2008 at 6:12 am
HEROES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeDSAcegfU0
September 8th, 2008 at 6:20 am
…Ah-bdi… I take it all you meatheads see nothing wrong with the traditional cannibal tribes !!!
See , their life style is as self evident to them as yours to you . Now , while I may have some limited tolerance for the hunter / gatherer types , I have none for those who support ( and are cynical )
the horrific meat industry’s torturing and massacring trillions of innocent / defenceless animals !!!
Watch ” Earthlings “, you barbarians !!!
September 8th, 2008 at 6:33 am
only a control freak would tell people what to eat … oh right … its just a recommendation
September 8th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Torturing animals is very wrong, but like undomesticated animals, if left to themselves, they would overpopulate and starve for lack of food. It’s about balance. We humans keep animal population in check and eat them. Other mammals do the same thing. Predator and prey is the natural order of things and keeps nature in balance. Even chimps kill to eat meat. If we didn’t kill domesticated animals, what would I feed my cat? She couldn’t survive on a meatless diet since her body is not designed that way. Logically, we cannot have it both ways. It is unhealthy to go to either extreme.
I don’t kill what I won’t eat and I’m not into trophy hunts. I have the greatest respect for the animals I hunt. I’m grateful for the meat they provide and hides can be tanned and used for other things. If it comes to my survival vs an animal’s life given to sustain mine, the animal will lose.
Let’s say everyone stopped eating meat. What would happen to all of the domesticated animals? They can’t survive in the wild as they are just as dependent on us as we are on them. If we spayed/neutered to control their population so they couldn’t overpopulate and starve to death, who would want to continue to pay for feed? A cow does not make a good companion pet. The domesticated animals would become extinct except in zoos.
If you drink milk, there are dairies who milk the cows 3 times a day until the utters bleed and the cow is nothing more than skin and bones. I’ve seen videos of ‘retired’ dairy cows stumbling into auctions for the slaughterhouse. So labeling every meat supplier as abusive means no more milk or cheese or curds.
Research, common sense, and making informed choices is the key. Not ALL meat suppliers are inhumane barbarians. The human race is not going to stop eating meat. There are meat suppliers who are humane in their treatment and use the most humane methods they can so the animal suffers as little as possible. Just as there are dairies who only milk the cows once a day. There’s one a couple of towns away from me. Fresh milk with the cream line.
BTW pigs are cannibalistic.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Everyday i look at society and how much of a control it is. There is classes of people, rather than a unity of people. Everyone are so stuck up about themselves that they are so afraid to talk to their next door neighbor. No one seems to trust each other, while the media is constantly feeding us with negativity and lies, which only increases fear and anxiety into our lives.
Living in itself is becoming unbearable to live since the prices has increased, since the money equivalence to gold and oil has became extremely weaker. You can go back sicne 1913 ….
Poeple need to start waking up about the truth, instead of remaining blind and ignorant. If we remain blind, we are only favouring the criminals that own the world banks.
We as people are the majority., we have the ability and the intelligence to start spreading the world about the truth. Once the truth is known, these crooks will have to reveal themselves and expose everything ….
We still have a very long way, and as i keep realizing people are becoming more and more ignorant about everything.
Is humanity just giving up>? What ever happened about being vigilant individuals who stood for their bill of rights??
i am absolutely saddened that society remains superficial about their lives, and are full of selfishness, greed and vanity.
Look people, if someone is at desperate need, its humane to give a helping hand!!
It is far too common that people in desperate need are completely alienated from society.
“In times of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act” – George Owell
September 8th, 2008 at 8:09 am
It is not expressly proven but the is a LOT of evidence that people who dont eat enough meat have developmental problems and lower IQ.
Porky pig – humans eat meat – end of. Don’t think this is true? Well look at your teeth and tell me they are not the teeth of an omnivore.
Ps WTF does Ah-bdi mean – you say it on every post.
Ps #83 I think you can stop telling poeple what to eat until you get some education in biology – “Protein/amino acids”??????. If you were qualified to know WTF you are talking about you would referr to such as just protein. 1000 cals a day????????????? You think americans are fat because they eat 2000cals a day – you are fat because you are not active enough. Eating 2000 a day (adjusted for weight if over / under adv) allows you body to be active AND stock up on reserves of ATP and glycogen. Dont know what that is????? Well stop telling people what to eat you schmuck
September 8th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Ps I know that protein is made of ammino acids it is just from a diatary perspective it is just called protein.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:43 am
As for my family and myself, we are meatitarians. All the righteous/religious fanatics out there know what i say when i tell you they claim the bible is law, and the bible tells that man can eat any animal with a split hoof, (except for the the jews they can’t eat the pig).
Looking on the global warming end of the whole thing, would it not make more sense to tell people to stop eating broccolli, cabbage, beans, etc. period, point, end.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
“Looking on the global warming end of the whole thing, would it not make more sense to tell people to stop eating broccolli, cabbage, beans, etc. period, point, end.”
No. The emissions are coming from the cows, not humans.– period, point, end? please.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am
…Ah-bdi…#87 ” Shewolf ” ” even chimps kill to eat meat ” Wow !!! impressive credentials , do you have a chimp as Guru ?!? Your cat’s diet ? They love dairy products more than meat , and if you let him live his life , he’ll catch a mouse now and then instead of having him cooped up in your home
( which is not very hygienic !!! ) They mistreat and abuse cows ?!? That’s what I’m trying to tell you if you bother to read my posts !!! Are you talking about keeping the population down , by slaughtering trillions of hellfactory bred sick animals a day ?!? They organize these giant breeding death camps !!! Are you an eugenist ?!? ” Pigs are cannibalistic ” , well humans treated like they treat the pigs these days whould too !!! They go bonkers !!!
September 8th, 2008 at 10:14 am
‘The emissions are coming from the cows’? I thought bad emissions were comming from my Hummvee. I wish they would get their science straight and just tell me what to do and think. And by the way, if we round up some of these little islands in the Carribean and South Pacific, take and process the inhabitants for Western consumption. We would have less cattle roaming around, less humans roaming around and over fishing the fragile coral reefs. We wouldn’t have to give them billions of dollars a year to live in poverty. And would not have to worry about their islands flooding out during Hurricanes, Typhoons, Tsunamis, and melting polar ice-caps. Many problems solved by just eating the islanders. This is just about as stupid as most of the other comments and solutions being proposed on this message board. BURN, BABY, BURN.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:21 am
the un can’t afford people being vegetarian,
because it would negatively impact their plans
for the new world order.
then people would be less violent,
less interested in the un propaganda,
way harder to manipulate,
more compassionate,
more forgiving,
more wiser,
more resourceful,
more efficient,
more generous,
more content.
forget the global warming thing,
too many people going veggie
would be a social revolution,
in a positive direction.
too many smiles,
and less of a disconnect between what’s on their plate,
and the extreme waste of resources (and life)
that it took to get it there.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Rajendra Pachauri sounds like a hindu name to me. Hindus worship cows. Rajendra Pachauri is trying to push his personal beliefs on the world , using the UN and fear as a tool.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Here is a solution. I will be sure to start eating more meat. Naturally raised of course. I will also be having more than one child. They will be home schooled and educated about the truth.
Here is a piece of good news. People at work who didn’t want to hear about the truth of 9/11 and everything else over the last couple of years have started coming back to me and asking if I still have those movies to give them. I sure do. I’ve been getting a lot of that lately. I give copies out in mass along with print outs of documented evidence and i give actual hard copies in the boxes still wrapped to the people who are most promising. I’ve gone from about 10% of people at work to about 50% who are now in the know. A good effective strategy is to present your case in a professional manor, don’t get all exited and bug eyed, don’t sound like a know it all, do not make specific predictions (general predictions I think are ok) and leave something for them to think up on their own.
September 8th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
ok, I shall not eat meat one time a week. I get gas anyhow from steak, that is global warming anyhow..LOL I read that cow’s give off alot of methane gas..well so do humans…lol
September 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Maybe if all of you meat eaters didn’t eat meat, you yourselves wouldn’t be treated like cattle and chicken! You don’t have to murder animals to be healthy, you choose to do, and then you become dumb, aggressive, and constantly upset like Alex Jones is because he’s a big-time meat eater. You wouldn’t have to worry about getting trichonosis like Alex has to either. Your colon wouldn’t be full of rotting flesh slowly leaching it’s putrefication into your bloodstream, causing you to act like an ape fighting over scraps, like Alex Jones does. I hope eating meat is banned for good and all you animal murdering death gobblers find out what it feels like to not feed off of death!
September 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
For those pushing all the soy products.. um.. wasn’t it only a few months ago there were all these articles about the negative effects from eating soy products? One particular problem was lowering of sperm count?
September 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Alot people who post here have already given up, face it you are defeatists JUST FACE THAT FACT, Any unelected beurocrate who even tries to tell you what to do and not to do is a punk riding the horse of raped wealth, aslong as you dont waste food eat what the hell you want, personally i eat beef or chicken once a week cause im skint but if i cut down id be basically a veggy, and that goes for the 1000 or so people who live on my council estate, for all the fairys out there aleast if we eat meat them animals get a chance to experience life otherwise they wouldnt even be born. if your so worried about global warming get of ya fat asses and get a push bike like me, but trying to cut global warming by eating less meat is as constructive as every being forced to wear baseball caps to shade the floor as we walk.
September 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
This is total bull. I got some for these people, hangin. These are the same idiots who claim bovine emmissions contribute to global warming! Well, if we kill more cows, it will reduce the bovine emmissions right? Don’t buy it.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
…#89 “Uchikoma” Real humans don’t eat meat , the few exceptions being : A) If you are from the “Kshatrya” ( warrior ) cast , you need to learn how to kill , so you may engage some dangerous animal with bow and arrow , or a sword , or a knife ( guns are too easy ) , like a boar destroying crops etc… or keep a lid on the deer population etc… keeping in mind that part of the training is to inflict as little pain as possible , and a wounded animal getting away as utter failure !!! B) Then you got the hunter / gatherer type (eskimos etc…) who don’t have much choice !!!
And that’s basically it !!! Any other type of meat eating is low class ( fish , if you live by the ocean and don’t have enough nutrition is somewhat karmically tolerated , within reason ) . Now , cows are the universal mothers , every human consumes dairy products in some form or another
so , killing a cow is karmically tantamount to killing your mother !!! Bulls will give you a hard day’s work ( and calves are cute ) But they (you indirectly) don’t just kill trillions of them , they inflict untold miseries on them , from birth to slaughter !!! Towards the end of their nightmare they get often skinned , choped up or boiled while still alive !!! This is , like it or not , probably a good 70% of the karma for World War 3 !!! You can whine about the Illuminati all day long , but if this goes on unabaited , you ( and it’s on ) can kiss it goodbye and in your next life , it’ll be your turn to become prime rib !!!
September 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
…Ah-bdi… Darn , I screwed up on ” unabated ” !!!
September 8th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I don’t buy it! it’s just another way the government is trying to control us!
September 8th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
#101
That’s a whole other story, the risk was actually from Genetically Modified soybeans, which is even scarier than the unsustainable living. The are letting Pandora’s box out of it’s bottle, by genetically modifying plants and animals. Why do you think they have that Doomsday Seed Bank? They know they already screwed up. You change the natural order, mother nature can’t undo what she didn’t create. We’ve exchanged quality of living and longer life spans, for the future of our species. We prop up infirm genetics, out of compassion, and let them dirty, healthy gene pools. You don’t let lame animals mate with healthy ones, letting them pollute a healthy gene pool. Now were doing the same things to other plants and animals. You can’t save everything, it is not the natural order. In that respect these are issues that eugenics are trying to address. The weak of a herd must not be allowed to depreciate the well being of the entire herd. Farmers know that, maybe the World Government needs to quit saving every sick puppy, no matter how cute it looks, our mother only has so many utters to feed us, and she picks the strongest ones. That’s reality, and has nothing to do with compassion. Speciesism is the real myth. Western religion is a scourge in that respect. Pro-life doesn’t mean everything should be medically manipulated till it’s viable in our perception. What’s next, artificially inseminating infertile women because they deserve children. Oh wait they already do that? It’s a total disconnect from reality.
September 8th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
It is totally true that by reducing your intake of meat it directly benefits the environment. Not to mention your health. Its proven that meat eaters rates of cancer are much higher than those of non meat eaters. As far as the environment goes not only will it reduce greenhouse emissions, but it will save water and as we all know there are big water issues in many states. First it takes water to raise the feed the animal eats, not only that but the animal consumes alot of water in its life until its raised. Why not eat the grain instead for one day a week or more? The cow also consumes much water while being raised. On top of that….. the runoff of waste from these animals get into the water as well…. I hear that it takes 100 gallons of water to produce 1 lb. of beef. Thats crazy. Ive known this for a long time, this is not some new conspiracy. I do not think it will save the environment but it will help. Global warming IS a conspiracy, but pollution from these animals and resources we waste on raising them for us to eat is not.
September 8th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Any proper farming outfit needs a degree of animals. Without it, they are less fertile, with less natural fertilser. So, there is a balance to be had. I think we eat too much poor quality meat, but say that we could get better nutrition from a bit less, better bred, organic meat, dispersed more amongst farms across the country. No more factory farming! It is a lie that all meat is bad for the environment. Only factory farming is bad for the environment.
September 8th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Anyone for Steaks?
September 8th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
TO THE GHOST OF TOM JOAD I think you missed my point so let me break it down for you. First of all to talk like that about American citizens is not cool. A large amount of Americans are overweight because of fast food. For some people the dollar menu is all they can afford to eat. I’m sure they would love to eat right if they could but they have neither the time or money. Also, their is all the commercials for fast food and junk food. I think its sad. They want the people to be overweight because it leads to problems which require medications to control. It also causes early deaths to control the population. A lot of people who are over weight today were raised on fast food. That shit ruled the eighties. It’s not the child’s fault but the parents lack of education and influence that you talked about in the super market. They are even feeding this shit to kids in schools! What hapend to families cooking and eating a healthy dinner together ? They love to destroy family values Or what about the vending machines,filled with aspartame drinks for the people watching their weight? The point is they are screwing us in every hole in every way so please take is easy bro remember its a monkey see monkey do America. I am a professional chef and I see the damage that has been and being done. It makes me sick too. but not in the way you see it. Have some respect if you would be so kind to do so. As for my name it is what it is if anyone messes with me or my family or my friends my name is the ending result. I am not trying to cause problems between fellow Americans like yourself and I do know how to chuck em my good man. I too have my scars. Unite and defeat the common enemy.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Cow(animal farts) cause methane which causes “Global warming”..
Seems eating the cow would contribute?
September 8th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
#101, how dare you speak evil of soy, you evil shill for the evil meat companies. Soy is good. GMO soy is nutritious. Anybody who says otherwise is a shill for the meat companies and with al-Qaeda.
/sarc
September 8th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
#86, unfortunately in many cases, recommendations end up becoming law.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
#73, meat is not evil. Free-range meats can be healthy. But meats loaded with growth hormones and from cloned animals? Now THAT is evil.
But I’m sick to death of “holier than thou” vegetarians/vegans who act like Nazi brownshirters and say meat eating should be banned. I’m gonna tell you vegetarians/vegans a cold hard fact. Most of your pro-vegetarian/vegan propaganda comes from PETA. PETA is funded by the Rockefellers. PETA is a Rockefeller front. The Rockefellers also fund the Center for Consumer Freedom, who on their website, consumerfreedom.com, pretends to be PETA’s opposition. So all you PETA-worshipping zombies, you are nothing but cannon fodder brainwashed by the Rockefellers. You think you actually have choice. Guess what? You don’t.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
#32, pork is the worst meat to eat. Loaded with parasites.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
#26, you’re right. Meat is not essential, but a little free-range grass-fed organic meat once in a blue moon won’t cause catastrophe.
And if you call me a shill for the meat industry, then I’ll present you with so much information and facts linking the meat industry with the mainstream animal rights movement that I’ll figuratively ream you a new one.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
anson chi, the globalist killer Says:
September 7th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
“I’ll have one meat-free day a week if the UN agrees to have one less globalist a week.”
“THAT’S AL-QAEDA TALK, BOY! WHERE’S MY TASER?!” – Officer Jackboot
September 9th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Check out the website http://www.naturalnews.com
This site really covers issues associated with factory farming and the implications it has on your body and the environment.
I am not associated with them but their position is right on track. Local grown no pesticides, organic is the best for you and best for the environment
September 10th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Darth post 116
Oh BOOO I love pork
Especially a nice fat pork roast.
September 10th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Most Americans sadly look like large piggies. Big colon clogged pork bellies, who can’t see their feet. Sexy eh? WMD should stand for “wheres my dick?”. Lay off the poison pork!
September 10th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I read several years ago that cows (meat cattle) can eat and live where crops absolutly cannot grow. they eat grasses and such that we can’t eat and eat different parts and kinds of vegetation then the wild animals eat. the cattle men have a strong incentive not to ruin pasture lands, as they look to the long term just like anyone else. cattle absolutly do not need grain to fatten up. grasses do just find, I mean I seen some pretty fat grass eating horses (like the ones I used to own)that aren’t fed grain, mine weren’t anyway. they get alot of their water from the grasses so this high water consumtion has more to do with all the grain they eat. I mean I know how thirsty cereals and such make me, but when I eat meat, dairy, fruits and veggies I don’t get very thirsty.
in fact when my consumtion of fruit is high I seldom drink any water. grasses especially spring grass is high in water. also feeding cows hay (since factory farming doesn’t allow for grazing) contributes to the need for lots of water. people have been eating meat for thousands of years, so I can see no justification for the un to consider it unsustainable. in fact they say golf courses, ski lodges and families are unsustainable.
how in the world are families unsustainable? I heard the population was dropping all across the board. though I hear them tout that we will be at such and such number of people by such and such a year, how can you rely on their honesty? they lie so much it is second nature.
building homes are considered unsustainable by their definition, which is funny, because I heard, and I may be out on a limb here that trees can be regrown, again and again. and that once you build that house all you have to do it maintain it say for 100 years, then the trees used to build it will be big enough to tear it down and rebuild it if one is so inclined to do. regrowing and using trees sounds very sustainable to me, especially if you plant two trees for everyone you take, and you can always set aside places to allow variations of trees and plants not used, to keep the variety, i mean I have only 3 acres I have at least 3 or 4 types of oaks (haven’t been able to id them yet) I don’t know how many kinds of maples, many different kinds of cherry, service berry tree, elms, wild roses, so many kinds of goldenrod I can’t id them, some variety of bushes, don’t ask me what they are, I can tell they are different species, and a bunch of baby trees too coming up.
and this on a property that less than 30 years ago was farm land consisting of hundreds of acres and yet the trees around me are huge, and if one was inclind harvestable. 30 years is not even half a man’s life span.
all in all I think the real purpose of all this enviromental hoopla (and believe me I know there is enviromental problems but our standard of living has little to do with it) is to basically increase restraint on wealth accumulation and prosperity. after all educated and well to do people are alot harder to control and exploit, just look at nations where people are uneducated and very poor. the poorest nations have the most enviromental damage and lowest wages and I bet they would trade places with us in a heartbeat.
the higher the standard of living the cleaner and healthier the enviroment. people with wealth and education have more clout and power to get problems of the enviroment solved after all if one is well fed and educated one is more inclined to care about their enviroment because they have a economic and asthetic and health incentive to maintain it. this is why property rights are so important. just look at nations without it, and you will see what i mean. they are poor, starving, desperate, cant get out of poverty, adn their enviroment is a total wreck and they have absolutly no clout to do anything about it. also having wealth and education and property one has more power to influence the community for the better I hope.
so whether meat is good or bad is the least of our concerns. though I wish they would not give them all those hormones and other crap. I think we need to also stop trying to impose our will or ideas of what is right on others, as long as we love our neighbor we will respect their right to make choices in their own lives that we may not agree but we do not criticise or belittle it as long as they are not hurting your life, liberty or property. forcing your will on others when they are not hurting you directly by legislation (thats democracy in action) is selfish. would you like someone to get laws passed forbiding you from doing something you want and that is within your right to do?
RRRRRRRR
September 10th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
maybe i can fit a pipe from from his nobel prize winning ass to my car, 100 miles a gallon seems possible now!
September 10th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
God’s OK On Abortion
“And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.” (Numbers 5:27-28)
This nonsensical ritual, prescribed by God, to a woman suspected of infidelity, must undergo the drinking of a vile concoction made of bitter water and dust from the floor of a tabernacle. A priest calls a curse upon the woman’s head to insure that if she has acted in adultery the drinking of the liquid will cause her to have a miscarriage. If she comes out clean, then she shall conceive.
Regardless of how ridiculous this procedure seems, any person who believes every word of the Bible must come to terms with the realization that the quoted God here sometimes authorizes abortion.
(also see Num. 5:1-25)
September 10th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
God’s OK On Abortion
“And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.” (Numbers 5:27-28)
This nonsensical ritual, prescribed by God, to a woman suspected of infidelity, must undergo the drinking of a vile concoction made of bitter water and dust from the floor of a tabernacle. A priest calls a curse upon the woman’s head to insure that if she has acted in adultery the drinking of the liquid will cause her to have a miscarriage. If she comes out clean, then she shall conceive.
Regardless of how ridiculous this procedure seems, any person who believes every word of the Bible must come to terms with the realization that the quoted God here sometimes authorizes abortion.
(also see Num. 5:1-25)
September 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Everyone seems to have gotten away from the issue here…. Everyone has turned it into a meat eater vs. vegitarian issue. This is not at all the point. The point is that the UN is trying to sell us on the Global Warming issue yet again
First Co2 (greenhouse gasses) from factories and cars caused global warming
then co2 from the same sources cause global cooling AND global warming
killing trees to have cow farms is bad
but eating cows (and other livestock) is bad
personaly I dont care if you love meat, hate meat, eat only a little meat….eat only organic meat or stuff yourself with Mcdonalds etc….
the point here is that people who think they are better than everyone else, tell us one thing…then if it doesnt pan out the way they think it will…they try to tell us the exact opposite and expect no one to notice.
The only thing that causes “Global Warming” is the cycle of the planet and the effect of the sun’s activity. Not human gasses, not cow farts, not factories, not your humvee, and not the meat you either do or do not eat. Granted less garbage in the air is a good thing, factories with filters, driving less do have the benifits of cleaner air, but none of those things affect the earth more than the Earth and the activity of the sun.
Same as recycling is not a BAD thing to do. But making it mandatory with curbside pick up is just silly. So you went from one truck coming by to get your trash, now in some areas I understand you have to have 2 or even 3 trucks come by to collect your waste. Now you have 3 trucks all doing the same job all using gas and 3 or 4 different locations they drive to, and how many ever various factories (also using fuel/energy/land) to process the waste therefore creating even MORE polution in the air water and soil.
To me this does not make sense. My trash goes in the trash can the garbage truck comes and takes it to a landfill. If I happen to be on my way to somewhere that I know has a recycle bin then i go ahead and toss items that can be recycled in there.
Eat meat, dont eat meat, whatever, its personal choice.
be kind to your fellow man, one day we might have to stand together to defeat a larger evil than meat eaters vs. vegitarians.
Peace, and Liberty
September 10th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Yeah just like they tried to get rid of bag pipes in scotland.Aint gonna happen.It should be new rule when someone says u.n..automaticly start laughing and then walk off.
September 10th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
“Big colon clogged pork bellies”
Nothing a good old-fashioned Dual Action Cleanse wouldn’t cure.
But if I hear Klee Irwin getting all giddy about the size of his daughter’s stool one more time, I’ll scream.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:34 am
GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX
September 11th, 2008 at 12:35 am
global warming is a hoax!!!
September 11th, 2008 at 12:36 am
alex jones is an american hero
he is invincible
he is unstoppable
im with him all the time
i’ll risk my life to protect this very important person
September 11th, 2008 at 5:01 am
it didnt get cooking HOT these last couple of summers, so where is this global warming they keep harping about? let the UN start to tell us about the chemtrails being illegal slow kill weapons and I might begin to listen. let the UN tell how the dumbing down, de-industrializing, and economic wrecking, is warfare upon its own people by this ‘administration machine’, I might hear them. let the UN tell us about what fluoridated water does to people, that the chemical, economic and psychological warfare being used against its own people is treasonous. nope, all the UN ever does is to get the USA to fund other countries while it exploits and harms its own people at home.
what a wonderful organization!
(beware of organizers, it usually involves ankle grabbing and a lack of lubricants)
September 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
POST 125
“And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.” (Numbers 5:27-28)
That makes no mention of abortion but the water was meant to make her infertile.
September 11th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
GATHER ALL THE U.N., GLOBAL WARMING, COCK-BITTING,CONTROL PIGS IN
ONE PLACE>> THEN GIVE THEM SOME REAL MEDICINE>>>
THERMO- NUCLEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Who cares, we’re all fucked
September 12th, 2008 at 2:42 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....24605.html
Even most of the Huffington Post commenter can see how stupid “eat less meat to curb global warming” is. Unfortunately, one jackoff on there thinks the solution to global warming is depopulation.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Will I stop eating meat because some twat of a politician tells me to?…nope.
This should not denegrate into a meat vs veggie squabble (divide and conquer anyone?)
As for the food we eat check out Codex Alimentarius,documentary here…
http://www.documentarywire.com/codex-alimentarius/
Sinister indeed
September 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Porky Pig
You are a retard.
I asked you a question – and you give me a nonsense reply.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
ah bdi – you can aswer a fuckign question or engage in rational debate
September 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
…Ah-bdi…#138 “Uchikoma” I was waiting for your answer , then this forum went off the revolving gizmo into the files, and I tend to forget it then , since others do too . Ah-bdi does’nt mean shit , it’s
a speech impediment !!! Look at a Porky cartoon like “Duck Rodgers and the 24th 1/2 Century” on “Movies on line” . Don’t call me a retard , you moron !!! Yes , I can engage in a debate and tear you out a new one anytime , where were you ?!? I said a lot already , and if that don’t get across , I’m probably wasting my time !?!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
UN officials. Eat veggies and then die. I will eat meat until you pry the carcass of the bunny rabbit from my cold, dead frying pan.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
UN officials. Eat veggies and then die. I will eat meat until you pry the carcass of the bunny rabbit from my cold, dead frying pan.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:15 am
What the F**K? Next these idiots will be telling us to stop breathing so much. The sad part is a lot of dummies will believe it.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
This advise should actually encourage us to eat and buy more meat.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:55 am
Let’s see: Cows make methane and exhale CO2. Eating fewer cows means that there are more cows making more methane and CO2. And there would also be more cows for the bulls to mate with, thus making more cows to make even more methane and CO2. However, when we eat that cow, her methane and CO2 production days are over. And we get the leather to make useful things with. Conclusion: Eat more meat, specifically cows!
September 13th, 2008 at 6:58 am
…Ah-bdi…#146 “Mike” You produce too much methane and spew out too much CO2 with all the crap you come up with , you’re next !!! ( and your skin will make nice lamps !!! )
September 13th, 2008 at 7:13 am
…Ah-bdi…#145 “Rick” Giving that Dr. Rajendra Pachauri the benefit of the doubt , I’d say he is using the climate issue as a proxy to try to guide people toward less meat eating , cause he knows that torturing and slaughtering trillions of animals a day is not only wasteful on resources , but especially disastrous on the collective Karma , and 70% of why world war 3 is knocking at our
doors !!! But that’s too much for you selfish knuckleheads to grasp !!!
September 13th, 2008 at 7:16 am
…Ah-bdi…#143 “Bubba” You’re the next prime rib source !!!
September 13th, 2008 at 7:27 am
…Ah-bdi… #141″Killer” I don’t want to seem pro U.N. , neither are the Dayaks in Borneo , they’ll start with eating the inside of your head ( they might be disappointed !!! ) , they’ll drink your blood like some frenchman his wine , keep your liver and heart for later , and eat your dick for dessert
( there too , I reckon deep disappointment !!! )
September 13th, 2008 at 7:43 am
I’m a vegetarian but if the UN are saying this I’m tempted to turn Carnivore.
I’m a vegetarian because part of fighting these fascists is staying healthy. When you buy meat you are not buying part of an animal but part of a chemical process geared towards maximum profit. Some very bad people are behind the meat industry, and if the elites control everything else why wouldn’t they have their demonic hooks into meat production. While everyone is worrying about implants and vaccines, what else are we putting into our bodies for them. If I were to eat meat I would only source it locally, from organic farms I personally knew. Organic farms are however being attacked also by the elite, for a reason. An orgnic farmer friend of mine can see the writing on the wall with GM, which is being rolled out to destroy the last bastion of elite free food production, the organic farm.
I try to avoid additives and their poisons by growing my own food and being vegetarian. We need to fight these monsters on many fronts as they are attacking us in a multitude of ways. McDonalds sell cheap meat for a reason.
September 13th, 2008 at 8:09 am
…Ah-bdi… #151 “Suraci” In other words , you don’t give a shit about the terrible suffering of trillions
upon trillions of defenceless animals !!! Good to know that they can count on you for nothing !!!
September 14th, 2008 at 3:22 am
This eating meat thing to avoid flatulence in the atmosphere is pure hogwash. There is no global
warmimg, only cooling. The facists arent’ any healthier than we are, either.
September 14th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Us/Europe (NATO) are raping the Caspian sea of her oil and Russia is allowing this.Why is Russia not doing anything to prevent the stealing of her oil. Does anyone know why Russia is being surrounded by NATO and not responding with any force.If Russia came and surrounded our borders and stole our oil we would have nuclear war ! Maybe Russia has shares in the baku-tblisi-ceyhan pipeline which is responsible for the theft.
there are in total 3 pipelines
A)Pipeline to Turkey
B)Pipeline to pakistan ( Runs trough afghanistan)
C)Pipeline to the georgian port
Does anyone know anything about this? please respond? ?????
Please watch this video
http://posmedprod.webs.com/oil.htm
September 14th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
let’s play follow the leader on this one !!!!!!!
youtube.com/goldieshome
September 14th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Fuck you, I’ll eat as much meat as I want. How do you stop a cow from damaging the environment? Eat the damn cow.
Nonetheless, too much meat is bad for you. The easy way to avoid chemicals and other shit in your meat is to not buy the cheap stuff. Buy meat that is locally raised and butchered on an independent farm. Most likely those people making it locally are eating it too.
Fuck you, viva la revolution, death to pigs in blue, and all that other wonderful anarchist, excuse me “libertarian” shit.
September 14th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Stop people from eating meat by first regulating the domestic market so that it eliminates all but a few “Chosen” entities can sell meat on the market. Then once the domestic product is removed the authority can sell crap from interests overseas that make a larger profit and can offer greater rewards for Criminal activity.
September 15th, 2008 at 2:11 am
…Ah-bdi…#156 “Joe” You suck a big one !!!
September 15th, 2008 at 4:40 am
Meat is now so appallingly produced and chemically manipulated that I just don’t want to eat it anymore. And it’s such an inefficient food source – think about the huge amount of food that has to be produced and fed to a pig during its lifetime. Then it’s killed and makes only a few meals for humans. Here’s some very scary and essential reading :
http://www.rollingstone.com/po....._polluters
September 15th, 2008 at 4:46 am
You can honestly eat meat and not add to global warming. Just as long as YOU killed it, You prepped it, and YOU didn’t waste!
The chamicals in store bought meat is just appalling. And, there are chemicals in your fuits and veggies, too. Don’t think you are safe just because you are Vegan.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Neocons: “If you’re against the war, you’re with al-Qaeda.”
Militant vegans: “If you’re against soy, you’re a shill for the meat industry.”
Me: “I’m not against soy. I’m against GMO soy.”
Militant vegans: “YOU’RE AGAINST SOY! YOU’RE A SHILL FOR THE MEAT INDUSTRY!”
Me: “If anybody’s the shill around here, it’s you militant vegans. You’re shills for Monsanto.”
Officer Jackboot: “YOU DON’T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MONSANTO, BOY!”
Me: “Monsanto funds CSPI and the Center for Consumer Freedom.”
Militant vegans: “SHUT UP, SHILL! ONLY SHILLS FOR THE MEAT INDUSTRY CRITICIZE CSPI!”
Officer Jackboot: “I TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP! THE CENTER FOR CONSUMER FREEDOM IS GOOD! MY BOSS IS RICK BERMAN! YOU DON’T CRITICIZE MY BOSS, BOY! THAT’S AL-QAEDA TALK!”
Me: “Bush claimed al-Qaeda attacked us because they hate our freedoms, yet it’s the government who hates our freedoms and takes them away from us. Therefore, the U.S. government is al-Qaeda.”
Officer Jackboot: “THAT’S IT, BOY! I’M GONNA TASE YOU UNTIL YOU EXPLODE!”
Militant vegans: “YES! TASE THE EVIL SHILL AND FEED HIS CARCASS TO THE LIONS!”