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University Police: Illinois Campus Shooter On “Medication”
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Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
February 15, 2008
As suspected, the Illinois campus shooter, identified as Stephen Kazmierczak, was on medication, although ABC News reports at this time it is unknown what sort of medication.
In the last few weeks, Kazmierczak’s
behavior had become erratic, according to [NIU campus Police Chief Donald Grady], and it is believed the Kazmierczak had stopped taking his medication. The chief declined to specify the type of medication the gunman was on.
As was revealed soon after the shootings at Virginia Tech, Cho Seung-Hui was taking the anti-depressant Paroxetine, which he took from June 1999 to July 2000. Seung-Hui’s “doctor stopped the medication because Mr. Cho had improved,” the New Yorks Times reported on August 30, 2007.
“Recent regulatory warnings about adverse behavioral effects of antidepressants in susceptible individuals have raised the profile of these issues with clinicians, patients, and the public. We review available clinical trial data on paroxetine and sertraline and pharmacovigilance studies of paroxetine and fluoxetine, and outline a series of medico-legal cases involving antidepressants and violence,” notes PLoS Medicine, a peer-reviewed medical publication. “Both clinical trial and pharmacovigilance data point to possible links between these drugs and violent behaviors.”
Bob Unruh, writing for WorldNetDaily, cites Dr. Peter Breggin, a prominent critic of psychiatric drugs and founder of the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology, who states that even if Cho wasn’t taking psychiatric drugs the day of the shooting, “he might have been tipped over into violent madness weeks or months earlier by a drug like Prozac, Paxil, or Zoloft.” In his book, The Antidepressant Fact Book, Breggin “warned that stopping antidepressants can be as dangerous as starting them, since they can cause very disturbing and painful withdrawal reactions.”
ABC reports that “Kazmierczak’s interests are listed as corrections, political violence, and peace and social justice, according to [an] essay, and he had plans to co-author a manuscript on the role of religion in the formation of early prisons.” In 2006 Kazmierczak co-authored the essay entitled “Self-Injury in Correctional Settings: ‘Pathology’ of Prisons or of Prisoners,” in which an attached biography describes him as having just begun his graduate work at NIU.
According to Kazmierczak’s coworkers at the Pirates Cove Childrens Theme Park, he had a penchant for violence. “I remember Steve Kazmierczak,” an anonymous coworker wrote on a music site message board in 2006, “the kind of person who injured kids on the train ride cuz he was mental and he shouldn’t be given domain over kids on little faux-traincars with an aluminum baseball bat…”
In short, Kazmierczak appears to be a prime candidate for violent behavior, especially now that authorities in Illinois are revealing that he was on medication, although as of yet unspecified.
Is it simply a coincidence that Mr. Kazmierczak decided to launch his murderous campaign at precisely the time the Supremes are taking up critical issues related to the Second Amendment?
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From ABC News:
Kevin Sundstrom said, “He had [a] blank stare on his face, not a frown, not a grin, like there was nobody there. I went back to find Paul. He was reloading his gun, like he’s in the backyard, methodically going about it.”
In other words, to witnesses, Kazmierczak appeared to be a zombie. How is it possible a person, who in 2006 he received a Dean’s Award from the sociology department and was reportedly well regarded by his teachers, engage in mass murder without any emotion? Is it possible he was in fact on “medication,” but not the sort prescribed by a doctor?
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February 15th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
No surprises here, since all that pharmaceutical stuff is evil, and is only prescribed by evil people.
February 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
“Is it simply a coincidence that Mr. Kazmierczak decided to launch his murderous campaign at precisely the time the Supremes are taking up critical issues related to the Second Amendment?”
Yes.
February 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
What shouldn’t get lost now that the MSM is revealing the fact that he bought the guns legally, is the heavy toll that these prescription drugs are having on young people and causing them to go berserker.
We have to realize that we are a society right now that is being poisoned at all ends.
February 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
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February 15th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
I Love the NWO Says:
February 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
All doctors who prescribe drugs are evil? Hmmmm.
Sounds like Florence has a case of the crazies.
Sounds to me like some of us need to wake up!!!! Depression is not caused, nor can it be cured by some synthetic petrochemical drug. Same applies to most every other ailment. All the majority of doctors today are mere drug pushers. Rarely ever dealing with the root issues of an ailment. The answers lie in nutrition, clean, non chlorine/fluoride tainted water, and for depression, stop being such a bunch of wimps. Life is not happy all the time. Challenges build character. Make one able to succeed in the real world. Not be a dependent slave.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Don’t address trolls like I Love the NWO. The fact that he/she actually spends time out of his/her life visiting a website that expresses views he/she obviously doesn’t agree with, just to rile up other readers, is probably punishment enough. Just leave the poor bastard alone.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
That´s right. Technology is getting a deadly grip on us. It´s time to move backwards and take a healthy approach to all sorts of technology – electronics, software, medication etc. LESS IS MORE!
Live well, eat healthily, spend less time online, don´t watch TV, go outside, do sports, go shooting, hunting, fishing, camping, don´t use drugs, legal or illegal, drink very little alcohol, don´t smoke cigarettes, work hard, learn new stuff every day, learn about history and your civil rights, learn about the New World Order and inform other people, speak out, love your family and friends, don´t worry too much as live´s gonna be over one day anyway, don´t waste your time, do the right things…
And stay away from everything NWO. Starve out the Beast.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
RestoretheRepublic….. You have a good point there. Ignore the troll!!!
February 15th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
This tragedy, and every other of its sort, to include Va Tech, and going back to Columbine, have been orchestrated by the CIA MK Ultra program. The purpose is more than to get gun control legislation. It is generally to bring fear and chaos to the citizens so that this fascist government can move forward unimpeded with its phoney war on terror.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I took Paxil, it made me sleep through 2 years of college. Maybe I should sue. I also took Effexor. When I stopped it cold turkey it felt like air was being pumped into my brain everytime there could have been an emotional response. Not pleasent, and the only emotion I got was severe anger. Then Risperdal. Yes, thats for schytzos. No, I’m not schytzo, but the doctor thought I was because I was telling her about my hallucinations under the influence of “drugs that don’t do that.” Anyway, Risperdal made me want to kill myself. I couldn’t sit still and there was no way to relax. I had to take cogentin to counter the effect, which made me dehydrated.
I totally agree with InfoJunkie. “Depression is not caused, nor can it be cured by some synthetic petrochemical drug.”
And also, I believe we are going to see an increased number of these types of shootings. I don’t have proof, but there are enough programming controls in place to send specific messages to specific individuals, or specific types of individuals, making them believe that they just had a great idea, when in fact it was not their idea at all. In this case, the idea was to kill people. Remember the coke machines that send cranial messages.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
The news is now saying he had JUST STOPPED taking the med –THAT’S when they really get twisted, when they try to get off the SSRI type drugs, as with Kip Kinkel who had just stopped taking Prozac when he killed his parents and then went to school and killed students. He showed signs of having been totally screwed up by the drugs and maybe even purposely mind controlled since he scrawed in his diary before he went postal “G– DAMN THESE VOICES INSIDE MY HEAD!”, then sometime after it all when talking to to a phychiatrist he screamed out the same thing. (this was shown on the PBS Frontline special about that trajedy) A friend of mine from church who was taking one of these SSRI’s is trying hard to get back to sort of normal now after being in a mental institution because he stopped taking his med. He has a self inflicted burn on his hand. he went from seeming quite fine and even heading up the Bible study in December to suddenly being all spacey. he stoped taking it because he hated damn the side effects, insomnia at night and tiredness in the daytime etc. etc.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
I know normally the media tend to be inaccurate with a breaking story like this, but the misinformation is pretty bad in this case.
This kid was not a NIU student, he was currently attending University of Illinois as a grad student. Word is, he was a remarkable student, (I hear he was studying to be a social worker) He legally purchased two of the guns in Champaign of Feb 9th and drove more than 150 miles to Dekalb and without a word, started shooting up a lecture hall. I don’t know yet if he contacted anyone in Dekalb when he got there or before he left Champaign, but this isn’t adding up.
Also, the incident reportedly took place and concluded in the lecture hall within a few minutes, but it looks like the window in the front door of Cole Hall has been shot out. I have heard no explanation for this.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Look this is real simple, this man is a Zionist, he was on HEAVY psycotropic medication. He got off the meds for whatever reason and “decided” to go crazy. Has anyone outthere heard of MK Ultra (mind control) it real folks. Also the Jew/Zionist/Bilderberger/Illuminists, are poised ready to usher in their death and destruction. Well wake up stupid, we need to take away the guns. Now all of you who support Isreal are DEAD wrong, yes I know someday you will have celebrations in the streets upon killing people like me. But I do recall the BIBLE, that is GODS word says not to honour Israel, it is to OBEY the word of GOD. I don’t think WE should be following Satan’s children. Do you homework before you spend an eternity in hell. WAKE UP. Please dear lord come quickly.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Pyschiatry is the biggest lie propagated in the name of help today. The Drugs destroy lives.
Im not affiliated with cchr but they do take a stand against Pyschiatric Drugging, Chemical Murder.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Lord Come Quickly?
http://www.eschatology.org http://www.pantelism.com. Christians the majority are so duped its not funny. The Fiction of Jesus coming back was created by Darby and Schofield called Dispensationalism published in the 1800’s by none other than the Rothschilds Press.
There is no excuse for being stupid, but hey when you are a follower of anyone thats what happens, you become just another sheople.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
TNTSKI….. I totally agree with you comments. Especially those on Israel. Good to know another out there that understands things this way!
February 15th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Another one? Joe, you are right on track with the comment on Darby and Schofield. Looks like there may be more of us out here than I thought.
Kind of getting off track from the article though.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
CNN: Drug reactions kill an estimated 100,000 a year.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9804/14/drug.reaction
These 100,000 deaths are from reactions to CORRECTLY prescribed drugs, not mistakes.
Check out this NYT article about the makers of Prozac and Paxil withholding negative results of their studies from the FDA.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01.....press.html
February 15th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
The guy looks like an eyebrow plucker too.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
GOOD OBSERVATION ROB! Now I’m reading on CNN that not only was this guy medicated obviously for a schitzo or depressive condition, but that he was involved with a “CRIMINAL JUSTICE” group. Topics they liked to discuss were corrections, social justice, peace… Don’t be surprised if the new ways of tackling this ever-continuing school shooting problem is cracking down on criminal justice groups… Although I guess they already in a way have, thanks to Utah passing legislation to hide police complaints from the media. That likely means, that your camera will be smashed if you capture something of worth… Welcome to the NWO.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Hey TNTSKI, spare me the doom and gloom of your bible class buddy. In case you haven’t heard, the bible is completely plagarized from astrological sun worshippers. You should watch the movie ‘Zeitgeist’ off google video and educate yourself. Yes Israel is corrupt and a cause of great strain, but don’t be so quick to sell your bible-babble and expect us to buy it.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I don’t get it…you can get a drug that turns you into a zombie who goes completely ape s--- on innocent people, but it’s illegal for you to get a drug like testosterone to build up your body, because it can make you more aggressive….WTF is wrong with our country??? You can thank the FDA, our drug companies and our treasonous government for this one…..
Just watch what happens. MORE REASONS FOR THE RF-ID AND GUN CONTROL.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I wonder if he was on prozac as well,Im willing to bet he was.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
having experimented with various substances and alcohol for my entire adulthood has never brought me to a fraction of the chaotic emotional and mental sensation I had taking just one – one – paxil. the way the mind can be f---ed up by ssri really is hard to visualize if you have never experienced it. experts in this field are – unfortunately – not the doctors and the med industry, it´s the poor bastards in search of cure. stay off.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
There sure seems to be alot of crazy shootings lately and we would sure like to believe it is MK-Ultra operations. I’d like to get some real evidence to back it up. Just because he was on psych drugs doesn’t mean much. The fact that he was involved in criminal corrections may mean something, as MK-Ultra may have an academic connection in some professor(s) or instructor(s) involved in corrections. By my personal experience with Prozac, the homicidal tendencies are most pronounced soon after you start taking it, within days and for a number of weeks. When you stop taking it, you just have a problem with renewed depression, not homicidal tendencies. Perhaps he just started taking an SSRI or perhaps something more exotic. WE need someone to dig around and try to uncover connections between him and a possible MK-Ultra agent.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
wow i would love to see what the grand tally is of these shootings on psycho active drugs. i did some research 6 months ago and i was up to 13 proven to be on ssri and or add drugs. this is insane even fox news has reported on this.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
An oldie but goodie. Read below:
On her website, Dr Ann Blake Tracy writes today:
“VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTER ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS
As all of you would have expected . . . it would not be long before we found out what the shooter was taking. And it has just been released by the media that he was taking antidepressants and having serious reactions to them that we are used to seeing like starting a fire in his dorm, a long rambling letter describing grievances – a particular dislike for the rich.
We already had several clues of antidepressant-induced automatic behaviors such as REM Sleep Disorder: the time of day being early morning for this incident and the calm demeanor of the shooter. We also have the antidepressant-induced manic behaviors: fire starting, violent and aberrant behavior & rambling letters of complaints. We have antidepressant induced Autisic behaviors of not socializing, being a loner. Stalking. False allegations of abuse. Too many things were beginning to add up especially for all of us who are aware of these reactions that I document in my book.”
I wonder how many more tragedies like this we will have to witness before people start to listen to what we’re saying?
February 15th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
“Is it simply a coincidence that Mr. Kazmierczak decided to launch his murderous campaign at precisely the time the Supremes are taking up critical issues related to the Second Amendment?”
No. Not when you consider as well that ‘Hell Girl’ Hillary Clinton is behind in the polls and that the topic of gun control has NOT been brought up during the presidential campaign so far, to the best of my knowledge. How much is anyone willing to bet that gun control suddenly becomes Hell Girl’s issue of the day on the campaign trail?
February 15th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
The medication is an issue here. However, I find it very interesting that this took place in Illinois, which has some of the most oppressive gun control laws of any state in the union. Gun control is obviously working well there!
February 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Dear Alex Jones, and to the many others who visit this website. I dont know if you yourself (Alex Jones) read the responces to any that have been published by people, but if you do, I hope you focus in on this one…
I am a huge fan of yours because you have the nerve, guts, and strenght to publish information about our corrupt goverment that many others would fear ever thinking about this subject. Due to our freedom of speech, and the great country we live in, you, as a citizen, have absoulty 100% right of saying what ever you want! Rather if its bias, or the truth. Thankfully, you only use the truth…
You are only alive because of the good Lord. I am not exactly a religous individual, but I’m working on it. You were born for a reason, a reason to infom blind people of our future, and the future of their children. You are as an angel sent from Heaven. You always prompt strangers about what their own goverment is doing to them, for their own well being. You have strongly encouraged me to publisize all of your work. From the first day I ever saw your film (documentery) Martial Law 2; about September 11th, I was fully convinced and saw your state of mine in an instant. I am a person who is not easy to giving up what I believe in to something else that isnt true.
But you are right…
September the 11th was a day that we must honor the president and the remaining of the goverment, of how awefull they have conducted to this country, and other foreign nations.
Since almost forever, this country was known for ‘The Free Land’, ‘Land of Opportunity’, and so forth, so thats what blinds the people of today, while our elite goverment are stirring up the pot for the next destruction…
I recently viewd a documentery ‘JFK’ regarding on the life, and death of our former president. The entire remaining of the documentery displayed how the ENTIRE MURDER OF JFK WAS A JOB AND COVER UP OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERMENT………..
With full proof, it was still said to be simply an assistination. The US told citizens who later became curious of the murder of JFK, that the documents of his death will NOT BE PUBLISHED UNTIL 75 YEARS LATER! That means what ever happen in the 60’s and 70’s, will NOT BE PUBLISHED UNTIL 2020!!! Which means that indefentintly, this was a COMPLETE COVER UP!
In the film, the main character (an attorny proving it was all a set up) was simply denied that he was correct, he was laughed at, and he was even threatend!!! Is that because he spoke the truth???
If you havent already seen this film, I RECOMMEND, I MEAN, I COMMAND YOU TO VIEW THIS FILM!!! It is a perfect concept of revealing who we are under. This simulates to you…
I have to believe that you are the only person with the courage to go out to the deepest, most dangerous situation in your life, and our country, to inform how this new world development is slowly revealing…
Your most likely wondering who am I, and why am I typing this???
First of all, I am someone who knows something that many others do not.
Those shootings that recently happened have nothing to do with drugs, or some retarderd person going under stress, or pressure, this was another goverment cover up…
Regardless if you believe me or not, I know you have been paying alot of attention to the politics currently going on, and you know that happen to have McCain in the lead (someone who is going to countinue Bush’s dreams) and it happens to be, that on the very day of the shooting, Hukabee quit, and all of of his primary votes AUTOMATICLLY GO TO MCCAIN!!! *As my geography teacher just explained to my class this morning* WHy is it that someone who we simply dont want to win, happens to recieve:
Credit from a loser presiedent in the race
Support from GEORGE WALTER BUSH???
Support from George’s brother (governer in FL)
Support from Rudy Juliani
and Support from Arnold Sharsneigger……..
WHAT THE HELL DO THIS PEOPLE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH MCCAIN WINNING!!!??????!!!
Is this another cover up???
Were the shootings suppose to happen to blind the people and media about what really went on in the news???
Just like September the 11th???
Killing innocent people to develope more strenght politcally, and economiclly???
I made this decision on my own believeing that those shootings were simply a way for people not to realize that someone is coming in our way…
I was watching the news and all they talked about was the weather and the shootings… Of course, other third party news like CNN, and MSNBC show more the just local news broadcast stations do, they showed what went on int he politics, while the others showed what went on at that university…..
THEY WANT PEOPLE TO VIEW WHATS GOING ON IN LOCAL NEWS, WHILE THEIR HITTING RECORD IN ENHANCING THE NEXT DEVIL TO WIN THE RACE!!
And let me tell you, I believe he will win..
I dont want him to win
But He will……
Its not only proven in your information, but its been preeched to me from my own family!
Thanks to grandmother and her large religous obsession, she read to me how
CAMERAS WILL SEE THROUGH OUR WALLS
HOW MICROCHIPS WILL CONTROL OUR MONEY
CAMERAS WILL FILL UP THE CITIES
CARS WILL CONTROL THEMSELVES
FINGER PRINTS WILL BE SECOND NATURE
A ONE RELGION WORLD WILL DEVELOPE
And let me tell you, Im gay, and I do respect the fact that it is NOT forbidden in the Gods eyes, but everything thats going on right now isnt either! While love to go on with a male mate
GAY MARRIAGES is another part of this evil development…
Their are tons, and tons of sings as you say, as how God says to his people… And only the one who is reading these signs can tell others about it, but others will not believe you! They will always think your crazy…
But I know your not crazy, because your the angel God sent to help us….
God Bless America, but truely, God Bless You Alex Jones
And may God ALWAYS be with, and protect you regardless of your religion because you are here to protect the world…
Never give up, never feel discouraged…. Countinue with your beliefs, and let me as your right hand friend spread your word, as I already have to dozens of people…
I have you and the Great Lord to thank about this information, I am NOT confussed, I was told this many years ago, and you came to help solve the problem…
So, as I said, I hope others read this, and I hope you can publish some information that I have sent to you, and hope you agree with my belief…
PLEASE, SOMEONE EMAIL ME ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS, BELIEFS, AND QUESTIONS;
Allied_Student@Yahoo.com
Danny_LR3@Yahoo.com
Alex Jones, may God Always Bless You…..
February 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Let me guess, it’s a mind control program and he did what he was told. They all are on the killer drugs, the one’s that kill like this and it has been relentless lately to draw attention to the 2nd amendment. Im my eyes, it’s a total setup for the taking of our right to bear arms and they will work it to the fullest.
See, wether we have guns or not, the people that do bad with them will always be able to get them regardless!! I’m irritated to the point of no return with all that is going on and most people are clueless zombies, walking around and rooting for the Candidates.
Just watching mainstream news is infuriating to me, with all the lies and spins they put on everything! It’s an everday thing and relentless and they will not stop until they are stopped, if possible! Global warming, fake environmentalism, 911 lies and propoganda, gmo’s, cloning and Chimerra’s, chem trails, gun confiscation, FEMA camps, destruction of the $ and the economy of the world, police state and martial law, total surveillance and personal intrusion, destruction of the constitution, FDA death org, CIA death org, child kidnapping and porn rings, importing of drugs, destruction of the family, brainwashing of children in schools to believe in the system, every tax created, f reserve, beat down on naturopaths and natural foods and meds, hiding the truth on everyting, including on how eating PH will eliminate the need for the pill pushing Dr’s that are institutionalised to believe in the system, cancer society, american heart association, take over of patents on revolutionary concepts and then smashed into oblivion, eugenics which is a good portion of what I already mentioned, flouride, mercury in shots and alluminum, forced inocculations, real ID, patriot act 1&2, war on terrorism, lobbyists, end of habius corpus, free speach, total control of media, Mr. Murdock and his control and continuing control of more news orgs, pain compliance/tasers etc…, and more….
Enjoy everyone, it only gets better from here
February 15th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I read through all of that long winded juvenile essay from Danny and then got near the end and was horrified he said he was homosexual, and further stated that this was OK in God’s eyes! Alex, I don’t think you need supporters like that!! LOL!! Millions of people are on SSRI’s. I suspect these shooters have alot more going on than that. I fully suspect some of them are MK-Ultra mind control ops, or whatever the CIA is calling this program today. In any event, it isn’t lawful (isn’t Constitutional) to limit either our ability to keep and bear guns, or to limit our ability to buy and use drugs. People should be warned, however, that these SSRI’s do increase homicidal ideations. People must be made to take responsibility for their minor kids. If a kid does something like this, the parents should be made to pay financially to the victims, as they are liable for their minors. Shooters, if they survive, must be brought up for the death penalty. And this affirms the need for the People to be armed, especially on college campuses, and if teaching or otherwise working in the K-12 schools.
February 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
They just said that the Illinois shooter…got his guns from the EXACT same GUNSTORE that the Va Tech shooter did…. Hmmmm…. what are the odds of that?
February 15th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
4 random…highly publicized public shootings in one week…. what are the odds of that? But they do seem to come in bunches don’t they…. or so they tell us.
February 15th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Not a surprise at all. I knew right away that this guy was on meds or had just stopped taking them.
Of course, the mainstream reports don’t say any of this. I heard it on the radio this morning. No mention of this guy being on meds at all.
When are we as a society gonna get it? These drugs are dangerous.
It’s the corporate scum of this nation that are bringing it down.
February 15th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Fre.....topic=1744
check out the link he has an implant in his forhead my like the VT shooter…..
February 15th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
PAUL IS A f---ING LUNATIC. JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOU INSANE MOTHERf---ERS.
February 15th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Keep it coming you insane motherf---ers. Dont stop with your insanity.
February 15th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Thanks for the link, kwiatkowski, you insane piece of fuking dogs---. Now do the World a favor and bash your head in with a hammer. You serve no purpose. Kill yourself. You know you want to.
February 15th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I have watched Zeitgeist and would also recommend it. hooray for google video. seriously. And Endgame has been on page one for most viewed in America (and other countries) all week… same with Zeitgeist. Last week, an aspartame doc. was on the first page, and I viewed it. Has Alex ever spoken about this on the show? I’m assuming he has. If the facts are anywhere close to correct, on top of watching our anti-depressants (which is hard for me, I’m a diagnosed patient, so believe me it is soooo hard to be in the middle of the ssri ssnri battle….) But we better watch our nutra sweet. SERIOUSLY, everyone. Start researching. It’s scary. Just one more little tip to what we can learn about what is going on behind closed doors. Death by diet coke. If you don’t believe it, just start researching. I’m not a scientist, so I’m not even going to start explaining.
much love and thanks to Alex and the many truth seekers. may we fight together despite our own differences. may we never turn into what we are against.
Shanona
February 15th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Ok, here’s how it works…
First we ignore why these folks flip out on / off these drug’s. Insert knee jerk response here… “many people are helped by these drugs…yada…yada…”
Ok, now send in the press and let’s see why this guy got a gun ’so easily’. Insert gun hysteria here…”He purchased the gun (and get this) at a pawn shop. Oh my!
Next we send in the politicians right here to insure the second amendment won’t be harmed after they have previously promised to end it.
Last, like the commercial were the two people collide and one has their chocolate in another’s peanut butter, PRESTO! A new law that says if any individual is diagnosed as ’stressed’ at minimum will not be allowed to own a gun.
Hey, we didn’t kill the second!
February 15th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
It’s very simple this was a black op, He was brainwashed into doing this so that it will be easier to take away are gun rights and that fact that he was supposedly on medication and went off it is the key to chipping away at are gun rights. It’s already been done with the vet’s if they have PTSD they can’t get a gun so guess what probably going to happen to us if you wan’t to buy a gun you have to go to the doctor first to make sure your not crazy.
February 15th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I’m highly dissapointed with the way in which this forum is being used.
I was hoping some of you would be shedding some light on this situation since the media has been changing this story every ten minutes since it broke. The press conference cleared up some things but there’s more to the story they aren’t telling us.
And those of you who rant a bunch of nonsense aren’t helping. More than half the posts here have absolutely nothing to do with this situation. All this bulls--- about Zionists, the devil, homos, and whatever-the-f--- just further distract us. And the in-fighting is a bit junior high, grow up would ya.
And it’s not really worth bringing up MKULTRA either, although this situation wreaks of some kind of mind control.
Would it be so hard as to contribute info that might allow some of us to gain some freakin insight to this story.
We gotta start getting this right, folks, because it looks like we’re in for more. And for me, it’s beginning to hit closer and closer to home. A friend of mine works across the street from the mall that was shot up in Omaha; one of the women in the Tinley Park store lived a block away from where I’m sitting now; and I know and work with students from NIU.
For those that may be interested, I highly encourage to look up my earlier post and comment on some of the data I acquired, since I know people, both at NIU and at U of I, where this guy was currently enrolled (bet some of you didn’t know that).
For those who have contributed valuable information, I applaud you. The first person knowledge of some of these drugs is quite pertinent here, thanks for sharing.
And if some of you other idiots want to flame me, I’ll pre-respond with this. “Our actions are only as good as the quality of our thoughts.”
Thanks for listening
February 15th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Hey you f---ing s---f---s. Commit suicide already you welfare f---s.
February 15th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
I think that we have to carefully examine the one common denominator among all of these people who commit these types of mass murders. The fact that almost all of these types of killings are comitted by people using one type of psychotropic prescription drugs or another. Instead we get calls for more gun regulation. If it is the prescribed medication that these people are using that contributes to their murderous behavior then the public needs to be well informed about it! I have yet to read about people comitting these atrcocious acts who are not on Ritilin, Prozac…etc. Why are the investigators not telling us what medication the shooter was taking?? Nobody goes berzerk when they stop taking anti-biotics or anything like that. But you can be sure this person was prescribed some type of psychtropic medication but we will be told that it did not have any connection to this horrible crime…Yeah? Right!
February 15th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
All the stuff I’m reading on this guy is that he was a normal easy-going kid, and an excellent student. He even has a published research paper out there from his graduate studies. I’m not finding a reason why he would have been perscribed any anti-depressant medication. Unless its normal to put overworked students on prozac. Well, someone did tell me that’s kinda how it is.
Whatever his condition, he was sane enough to carry a FOIA card.
your right, JIM. There needs to be more mainstream criticism of the medications, but I don’t see that happening as long as pharmaceutical companies have more lobbyists in congress than members of congress.
My cousin is a Chiropractor and in their office they gather extensive information about how medication is more and more the cause of illness, depression, and death.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Like the Virgina Tech Mind Controlled killer, this has black ops written all over it. Just like I had first suspected this guy has a government background (he was booted from the Army) and was on Meds.
February 15th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I think “debunker” is just two nut hairs from going off next Get some help bro! your sick you need it!
February 15th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
like i said before…if I was in power..i would have killed all of you because of your egos long ago..thats just me. Yes Im bipolar and no ..medications dont work
February 15th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
yea man this guy was undercontrol.
probably by seome crazy zionist f---er.
February 15th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
The guy’s eyebrows are tweezed beyond all logic, he was probably really tightly wound, and bound to snap. No conspiracy needed on this one, there are plenty of genuinely crazy people in this county that would do such a thing.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:49 am
ohh myyy gaawwwdd
thiis dude was on meds
like always LMAO
February 16th, 2008 at 5:02 am
too coincidental for me with current events. this will be used to justify disarming the public and perhaps making it illegal not to take your “medication”
February 16th, 2008 at 5:06 am
Was he Jewish?
February 16th, 2008 at 8:13 am
We all know what this was. It was a mind controlled zombie. As the economy is falling apart they must have gun collection. How long can they prop up the stock market? They have raided the treasury, that money ain’t coming back. People are going to rise up in about 2 yrs, they know this.
Expect more and more of this, they will liquidate your assets, and that includes guns.
Plan accordingly.
February 16th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Of course he is Jewish, all school shootings have been carried out by Jews or their patsies who have been in the military or under psych care.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Media silence on jewish high school massacres
yesterday, a lone gunman massacred 4 american students and injured 18 at a university. The guys name was steve Kazmierczak. A jew
http://www.4crests.com/kazmier.....-arms.html
This Jewish surname of KAZMIERCZAK was an occupational name for a cantor in a synagogue. The name was derived from the Hebrew CHAZAN, and it also spelt CHASAN, HAZZAN, KHAZAN, CHASINOFF, KHAZONIVCH and CHASINS, to name but a few
well so what you may say.
well over the past 10 years nearly all the american high school massacres have been carried out by Jews.
http://judicial-inc.biz/columbine_killers.htm
Including Columbine
Pearl High School massacre
Red Lake Massacre
Columbine Massacre
Oklahoma City Bombing Natalee Holloway murder
February 17th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
The doctor took him off the meds read the story again.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:17 am
I just saw the shooters girlfriend interviewed and she said he had been taking Prozac. For some reason the media isn’t talking about the brand of meds and are really downplaying that aspect of the story. Can you say Pharmaceutical sponsors much?. Antidepressants seem to be the common factor in these rampages…Columbine, Virgina tech and tons more. I found a link that lists a bunch of them:
http://ssristories.com/index.php
February 18th, 2008 at 1:44 am
PROZAC HAS FLUORIDE IN IT…. It has a dangerous, toxic sedative in it! Same one used by the Nazis.
Maybe the boy got tired of being drooly and sleepy all the time, quit taking them. People that died at least get to escape the horrors of the New World Order.
Agree with you, Wade
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