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    Viola Gienger
    Bloomberg
    November 21, 2009

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    Higher-income Americans should be taxed to pay for more troops sent to Afghanistan and NATO should provide half of the new soldiers, said Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    An “additional income tax to the upper brackets, folks earning more than $200,000 or $250,000” a year, could fund more troops, Levin, a Michigan Democrat, said in an interview for Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt,” airing this weekend.

    White House Budget Director Peter Orszag has estimated that each additional soldier in Afghanistan could cost $1 million, for a total that could reach $40 billion if 40,000 more troops are added.

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    167 Responses to “Upper-Bracket Tax May Be Needed for Afghan War Cost, Levin Says”

    1. roaddog6 Says:

      the rich will use it as a tax write off and the middle class and poor will feel the brunt of any and all new taxes and the raising rate of old taxes.

      woo hoo Reply:

      Yep the super rich “fat controllers” never pay tax anyway. Tax is only for the slaves.. Its a pity that most of the rich dont realise they are slaves of the fat controllers. (rothschilds)

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      We have to find better ways for tax exemption Reply:

      Well you know as taxes get higher we just find more ways to have tax exemption. However, it wouldn’t hurt making your home a church or mosque or embassy and claim it tax exempt, thus your income is tax exempt since it get donated to your family, which you can claim as well. No laws about that. So in the end, you pay less taxes. =)
      The more they tax, the more ways people will find exemptions.

      Hangtime55 Reply:

      NO , screw the extra TAX !!! This is Obama’s and Bush’s personal War , the people of the United States wants OUT of both Iraq and Afghanistan so if you think that the U.S. citizens are going to pay for your Corporate Wars , your mistaken . Go ask Rothchild for another 5 Trillion , the U.S. isn’t paying you crooks another cent !

      Paul Revere Reply:

      How about the Rothschilds and Rockefellers?

      START WITH THEM!!

      FreedomLover Reply:

      How about starting with ourselves – the men in the mirror?

      We can talk all day long about how to fix this world, yet sit on our assets and do nothing. Reality check…. Which one of us on our own are going to arrest and try these traitors, shoot down the chemtrail planes, replace the FED? Reality, none of us. But we can do what’s right in front of our faces. Enough people pitching in, in small ways, can change the world by the ripple effect. If you’ve got big money or major influence, then do that too. But everyone can do something. Waiting around for someone else to fix the problem is going to accomplish absolutely nothing.

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      jjj Reply:

      White people hate the truth – and thus hate God – and thus everyone – including themselves!!!!

      Dogfood Reply:

      Go away shill, your mind games don’t work here.
      And tell George Soros is a Nazi.

      Thanks.

      jan Reply:

      jjj it is obvious you are scum as you are trying to cause division,the race card you are a scill..

      bondage Reply:

      I’m white and I love the truth!

      billybub Reply:

      Pretty sure the rich isnt anywhere close to the representation in the military as their non tax paying poor people they encourage to join and go to war for their financial intrests

      steve Reply:

      That is the middle class you idiot. These numbers are always per couple. $200-250k for a family is not rich. This is about the continual destruction of the middle class. Thats minimum income to buy a home in California now.

      Gary Reply:

      I have to agree. $200k per year is not rich. It is middle class. The value of a “dollar” is nothing compared what it was just 35 years ago. Maybe back in the 60’s 200 Grand would be “rich” but certainly not now. When I was a boy we’d buy watermelons for 50 cents. Now they’re $9.00 each. I remember my Dad fearfully realizing that gas was gonna reach 75 cents per gallon some day. I’m 40. Gas isn’t getting more expensive, neither are watermelons. The dollar is losing value, and has been for decades. That fall is in overdrive now. Soon $200,000.00 per year will be chump money. Go ahead, laugh, but the days of laughter are coming to an end. s--- is getting real. People know this. Get ready for some fun times ahead, people under immense pressure and stress and fear. Get ready.

      GMAN Reply:

      your right, not rich. however if you make this much, even as a couple you are in the top 1%-5% of earners in the country. more than likely you are benefiting from investments that are doing well due to this war. so quit your bitching and selling out of our less fortunate and country so you can live in your 5000 square foot shack. the top 5% of earners that I know would sell their own mother to get ahead and auction off their children to stay ahead. this demographic is not one here the honorable reside.

      Hillbilly Patriot Reply:

      hahahahahahahahahaha, you people are are f---in nuts man !!!! Ya’ll sayin 200,000 is nothing?
      Ya’ll,…..dont know what being poor is do ya ?
      Motherf---ers,…i work my ass off driving trucks for a living and only make 40,000 if iam lucky and iam making it and still really aint hurtin !!!! What is it with you yuppyfied f---ers who cry if you dont make a huge amount of money? Iam paying for a home and all the bulls--- like others and still aint bitchin ! Ya’ll got the nutts to cry about how 200,000 wont buy anything !!!!hahahahaha what a bunch oif godamned idiots ! Iam paying child support, paying for a home, all other bills and still aintr bitchin !!!!you people are a f---ing joke !!!! no wonder California is such a gfoddamned mess !!! Ya’ll just as well join the dirty cocksuckers like the rockefellors and such !!!! ya’ll are whats f---ing this world up man !!! people wouldnt need gobs of money to live if they knowed how to budget s--- !!!!ya’ll are just a bunch of goddamned crybabies like the NWO !!!!point made !!!!

      tb Reply:

      I can’t believe I’m saying this but, “HB, you are so right!”.

      Justin Thought Reply:

      I’m kinda with you, tb, and hillbilly. 200k buys a lot of groceries.

      Of course, what these people are comparing it to is. . .the Lexus payment, the 5k-sqft house in the gated community, the club membership, the soccer practice, the swimming lessons, the ballet class. . .hey, add all that stuff up and it barely goes around! To quote Joe Walsh, “Uh-oh, I think we’ve got a flock of wah-wahs!”

      To say Americans are spoiled is something of an understatement!

      But. . .on topic, lemme get this straight – our soldiers are over in Afghanistan protecting the poppy crops, somebody’s making a gazillion dollars on the sale of the opium and heroin, our kids are paving the way for a pipeline so that the oil companies can rape us even further on energy prices, and WE, the PEOPLE, are expected to finance this – with no return on our investment, with the possible exception of (maybe) having our children return without too much physical and emotional damage? There’s something WRONG with this picture!

      It’s time to disentangle ourselves from the United States of America Corporation. Now!

      Bargeman Reply:

      Anyone who thinks $200,000 is middle class has their head up their ass. Big huge SUV driving yuppie Obama loving assholes!

      JaneTheCarpenter Reply:

      I live in Warren Michigan and Carl Levin is on his way out. I have wrote him and called him many times because this guy doesn’t know how to say no!! This man does not care what the people HE WORKS FOR WANT! I can’t wait to help get him fire! IN WITH THE NEW, OUT WITH THE OLD! Carl Levin YOUR FIRED!!

      roaddog6 Reply:

      jane—he works for the elite. (people). We are the herd. We are not considered people to them. He’s working for them, not us. Just listen to the verbiage they use. You have to understand what words are being used and who ithey’re directed at. Its common double speak. We are not people. We are the public, the citizens, the amerikahns. They are the people only, as far as they’re concerned. Would you go out in the field and listen to cows or sheep? No. You wouldn’t. Neither do they. They can’t and don’t hear what we bleat about to them. Can you hear a bug screaming? No. same thing.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      I forgot to add, they only listen to the ones pulling the puppet strings.

      Gary Reply:

      Roaddog6 says it again. Right on.

      Chad The Knowing Reply:

      Jane , George Carlin said when you vote it’s garbage in garbage out.
      If you look around you will notice your country is dying around you,
      By who? the garbage known as the Lawyer Politician.

      steve Reply:

      how will they use a tax as a tax write-off, lol. Are you a meth head? have you ever held a job or paid income taxes?

      lala Reply:

      Uhh you might not know this…. To get around capitol gains taxes and have a 100% return with interest you only need to invest in Government investments. There is a approved list of companies you may invest in and get around taxes. You must however invest over 100k or 250k the figure has changed over the years. This way when the elites make their big dollars they profit off of the American working class even more. We pay the interest on their stealing?

      FreedomLover Reply:

      You’re absolutely right. What many of the people supporting BS don’t realize is that the democraps have targeted those in the bracket of the small business owners who hire most of the slaves. I got an email written by one of those “small business” owners, and basically what he said was that whatever taxes were raised on him would have to come out of the capital to advertise for new stores, build and merchandise them and hire new people, therefore, the new stores would have to be put on hold. No new jobs.

      As with any other issue in this crazy, mixed-up world, all the crap rolls downhill. They have the last laugh, because once again, the slaves will be paying the taxes passed down to us from the wealthiest 10%. They’re not doing it to be mean, it’s just good business and it keeps people employed. I’m not talking about the jerks who took our work and sent it overseas for cheap. I’m talking about the honest, hardworking businessmen who hire Americans and try everything to keep them working.

      Thanks, BS, for another thinly veiled lie aka we won’t tax the poor. We only think we vote, but all of BS’s supporters shot themselves in the foot. Bottom line – THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. We either work our collective butts off, or we live off taxpayers’ work. And the taxpayers are getting pretty pissed.

      GMAN Reply:

      again a perfect example of the hippocracy. the small business owners seems to believe that they ave the “right” to make big money by selling s--- made in china and underpaying their staff so they can get the next 750i. “I can build my widget here, but I won’t get rich, so I’ll have it made by some kid making 10 cents a day in some 3rd world country, then “I” will make coin. keep feeding the downward spiral you stupid f’s

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Your cynicism is part of the problem. There are still good people left in this country.

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      THE WATCHER Reply:

      Haven’t paid IRS in many, many, many years and I never will. Everything I ”owned” in this country was hidden in New Mexico LLCs. New Mexico LLCs belong to whomever is holding the documents, no ”owner” is listed in the corporate paperwork OR in the files of the state. Now that I’m leaving the country and I’ve transferred my monies to other countries, the rest of you can use my ‘’secret weapon” to protect your privacy and your assets. You’re welcome!

      James Reply:

      Yes, and just how many of their children are in the Meat Grinder?
      Fighting so the Elite can control one more country.
      It’s the dope in Afghanistan, and they will go after Iran too.

      Where's the dog? Reply:

      Well?

      POOPOOPEEPEE Reply:

      The way I see it we gotta do it boys,Are people over there need the money to keep us safe at home and to kill terroists

      kw Reply:

      Congress, Obama/Soetoro and Judges are fired. They’re all lunatics. People, the U.S. has been raped and pillaged by these sorts for decades, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights be damned. Now, with the demorats having garnered 60 senate votes to move forward the Obamacare bill, toss another link on the chain. The only way this program could even remotely make sense is for the feds to establish an official, healthy lifestyle and criminalize that which isn’t; again, the Constitution and Bill of Rights be damned.

      william b travis Reply:

      i ve got a great idea a 500% penalty for democrats who get caught cheating on their taxes
      hey maybe we could even balance the budget with this tawhat ever happened to transparency
      and fiscal responsibility and honesty in this administration-LIES !

    2. Infantry Veteran Says:

      The poor pay with blood and taxes……

      The rich could at least chip in…..

      roaddog6 Reply:

      thats not gonna happen.

    3. potangent Says:

      Tax the poppy sales that we are protecting. We could eliminate our national debt by taxing the drug sales that our government condones and protects.

      Hawg Washington Reply:

      that money may be earmarked for important projects like digging deep underground bases for The Elite.

      kahoneez Reply:

      Tax the Warlords over there and here too . This is getting absolutely ridiculous keeping this endless occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan and SHOULD anger all Americans , bcs libraries are being shut down , parks are closing , cops are handing out tickets like crazy to make up for deficits and this slime ball levin knows it’s all about permanent bases …. and doesn’t give a damn if he bleeds American citizens for the military Industrial Complex , Israel and the rest of the traitors involved .

      250,000 BILLION a year for bases world wide and if people stood up like the Okinawans and protested the militarization of the US and world , we might get somewhere .

      Propaganda News Reply:

      Israel should pay for its own wars. None of those countries would be a threat to America if not for the Zionists’ influence here. If its really about oil instead of security then tax Halliburton and Delek.

      kw Reply:

      Until the people in this country take to the streets, these antiConstitutionalists in government will continue to pillage the same people for their own good. I’ve had it. I can’t believe how dim-witted the people of the U.S. have become. Or, is it because of the influx of the hordes of illegal and legal immigrants from over the world who have only known tyranny in governance and the jackals in D.C. aim to please?

      We are the militia. Not the national guard. The people are the militia.

      NEPHILIM COMING!!!! Reply:

      I know what you are saying but all the suffering the smack would bring to mankind

      NEPHILIM COMING!!!! Reply:

      Our reality is being and has always been fabricated by them,All wars are a game to them ,and our blood is very cheap to them ,they worship moloch and have very empty black holes thru there centers nibirupedia.com

    4. Agent Orange Says:

      What…? Are we supposed to be outraged by this? The last idiot in chief gave tax cuts to the wealthy while our country was stuck in two wars. Their children aren’t fighting and defending our country. They have other priorities like going to college, working for Goldman Sachs or sitting on their fat, pasty white asses eating bon-bons by the pool. This should have been done long ago. If it wasn’t for our great country these greedy pricks might not be wealthy.

      Tacks Reply:

      Why are we in the war in the first place?

      banksterCrook Reply:

      Yep, a question which should have been asked eight years ago. Same old reason as in Vietnam. The Military Industrial Complex is getting richer and richer, the country is being sucked of its wealth, its able-bodied young men, AND a pipeline is being established across Afghanistan which the Taliban had refused to allow back in the late 90s. Karzai is a former executive in that oil company. As Smedley Butler said, war is a racket and the American people have been conned into allowing their children and treasure to be used to kill others who have done us no harm–millions of innocents killed in Iraq and an untold number in Afghanistan.

      Bush and Obama Sitting in a Tree Reply:

      Let us not tolerate such questions. There can be no debate.

      in the woods Reply:

      It never will change I like to be with the poor people. They no how to get by in hard times.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      I agree with you. When the real needs are met (food, clothing, shelter, love and purpose), what else is necessary?

      My house is a trailer, but it keeps the rain off. I don’t need a 100 bedroom mansion (too much to clean anyway). I ate breakfast and lunch, and I plan to have dinner with friends. I have several sets of clothes, while millions other places dress in rags, or sometimes don’t have any clothes or shoes. My car isn’t a Mercedes or any other expensive toy, but it gets me where I need to go.

      When you’re rich, other people are always trying to get it away from you. I don’t mind not being rich.

      Barry's Crack Pipe Reply:

      “I agree with you. When the real needs are met (food, clothing, shelter, love and purpose), what else is necessary?”

      How about your “liberty” and “freedom?” You have no power. What is stopping them from taking your “food, clothing, shelter, etc.”? What little you have, you keep at their whim. Kunta Kinte had food, clothing, shelter, love and purpose. You are “Toby” and you don’t even realize it. You embrace your slavery. Sad.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      What’s inside, courage, hope, peace with God, the NWO can’t take it away. I’ve had less than I do now in my early life. It’s all going away when I die, but my eternity is secure.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Agent Orange, I agree with everything you said EXCEPT:

      Giving tax cuts to the wealthy. Depends what you mean by “wealthy”. The present govt is targeting small business owners. Those are the majority of employers, not the big corporations. You can only use money once. If they use it to hire people to work (as most do) and pour it back into the business, then we don’t have so much unemployment. If they have to use it for taxes, then it’s not there for business expansion or even keeping people employed. That’s why we’re seeing the unemployment numbers skyrocket.

      The taxes coming off the “wealthy” are what the fat cats use to keep themselves well fed and build their deep underground military bases, and chemtrail us for depopulation purposes. Very little of that goes to feed the poor or make their lives better in any way – instead it goes to keep them sucking on the govt tit.

      You’re ALWAYS going to have scumbags who will send American-needed jobs overseas just to get cheap labor. We live in a fallen world. They are the only ones who seem to get any press amongst those of us who value integrity. The other ones, working day after day, long hours and good to their employees, just get ignored. Bad press sells, it’s human nature to gossip and complain.

      Given the choice between the two, I’d take the tax cuts for the wealthy any day. It trickles down into employment for me.

      in the woods Reply:

      Things could change for the better faster then people realize. Bring the troops home,f--- the fake NASA program get the bankers in court, there already saying there sorry. Pay China off with inflated dollars. Stop people from coming to this country for awill. All this might happen with in this year. I spend 12 hrs. a day an more watching and reading politic and news this is were I see the leaders going its the only road other then revolution The best part, the rule of law is uesful in all this. I got hope MY dad is 80 he said this is nothing just get up in the morning an do something to make it better.

    5. Hangtime55 Says:

      THAT’S MORE TO THE REASON WHY WE SHOULD GET THE HELL OUT OF IRAQ , AFGHANISTAN AND NOW PAKISTAN ! WE CAN’T AFFORD TO FIGHT , NOT A WAR , BUT A INVASION !

      The Foreign Policies of the United States and the Military Industrail Complex are Failing not just here but around the world as well . It seems our new Foreign Policy is agree with us or we’ll attack you ? What the hell kind of Foreign Policy is that ? Is that a Foreign Policy or is that Foreign Police-ing ?

      The United States simply can’t afford to continue chasing ‘ ghost ‘ terrorists around the globe anymore . For as much our arrogant generals don’t want to admit , we’re losing this effort to prove our superority in the world today . I could understand if we were fighting a good fight but were not ! The U.S. is acting exactly like past nations who wanted to rule the world .

      Enough is Enough ! Bring our kids home , kick the Fed in it’s ass and lets start rebuilding not only our country but also our Reputation around the world .

      in the woods Reply:

      ya most people feel this way I do

      banksterCrook Reply:

      Yes, nothing will change until the Federal Reserve is abolished. The private banksters need to be dethroned. They have sucked the life blood of this country long enough. The government needs to go back to printing its own money and using it to build infrastructure for the people, instead of sucking the people dry to pay interest to banksters who have printed the money.

    6. D Says:

      This might not be a bad idea. If the primary support group for the wars is taxed directly under a “war tax”, they might lose their enthusiasm for terrorizing the poor brown people of the world and demand an end to it all.

      banksterCrook Reply:

      Yes, a 50% tax on all multi-millionaires until the war is paid for. Watch how quickly it will end then!

      BanksterCrook Reply:

      Begin with congress:

      http://www.politico.com/news/s.....29235.html

      Tax multi-millionaires at 50% until the war is paid for. It will be over in a hurry!
      Not likely to get such a law, however, when the multi-millionaries are in Congress.

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    9. WolfGuardian Says:

      The profits from the CIA Drug Running from the poppy harvest, should be able to pay for the “war effort”. F**k THEM.

    10. fgate Says:

      Let’s face it: Most people have no problem with the current wars. We’re in the minority. For example, many progressives and democrats *claim* to be against costly and fruitful wars, but actions speak louder than words. It’s more of a political football for them. If it suits their agenda they’ll act like they’re anti-war. But I’ve come to the sad realization that the majority don’t care whether or not we continue these insane wars. The “peace” movement came to an end when Obama took office. And the folks at the Tea Parties are generally pro-war. Outcasts like us are the only ones who oppose the wars at this point.

      fgate Reply:

      And I speak from experience. I’ve attended several Tea Parties, and since I’m anti-war I was like the turd in the punch bowl.

      in the woods Reply:

      The ones on the far left are worried more about ,guy people. The ones on the far right are worried about people who havent been born. Most people in the middle I belive want the troops home, above averything. Tea baggers are scared of change. Thing will be okay the, rule of law maybe coming back, it may start in NewYORK Iam not scared.

    11. WolfGuardian Says:

      fgate,
      This “WAR” is nothing more than a conquest of the US Government, The Globalists and Wall Street to obtain complete control of every aspect of the planet.

      banksterCrook Reply:

      And I read, I believe it was on Politico, that 237 of the congress critters are millionaires. They make money off of these wars–probably own stock in the war machinery.

      banksterCrook Reply:

      Make that multi-millionaires. I believe Jane Harmon was worth 200 million.

    12. banksterCrook Says:

      Not a fair interpretation of what Ron says. He says that he understands why people are concerned about such camps being used against the people. With the implementation of the Patriot Act, repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act, and with legislation that already exists which gives FEMA sweeping powers during an “emergency” Ron says that the fears are not unreasonable. It has already been proven that Haliburton has been given millions of dollars in contracts to build such facilities–that is a fact–Alex has cited it, and it is readily available on the internet in the MSM reports. Therefore, your interpretation of this is misleading. If you believe the government is good, then I am sure they are building these camps for our benefit. However, if you feel like this government tends to favor the ruling NWO elite, well, you can interpret the existence of such camps in a different way.

      Since the government seems to favor me and my bankster buddies over Main Street, well, you do the math.

      Propaganda News Reply:

      Ron Paul is as two-faced as Rudy Giuliani. Both of them know what’s really going on and they’re lying for their own personal political gain.

      George [Costanza] Reply:

      Ghouliani lies.
      Ron Paul is trying to wake up those who are still asleep.
      If you are awake, good move aside for those who are just finding out what kind of world of hurt they are in.

    13. Carl Levin Says:

      First off to each one of you unemployed get used to it. Also to the others not many that bad mouth me come down to my office and I will be glad to kick your sorry asses in front of your boyfriends! With vote fraud guanteeing my seat =) after I kick your ass you can kiss mine
      Carly

    14. in the woods Says:

      my dad said he never mine paying taxes if there was work. Most, an I mean just about everybody pay is from tax money being spent one way are the other.

    15. alex Says:

      What pisses me off is the LEAST TALKED ABOUT thing by the media is
      .
      WHY THE HELL WE ARE THERE ANYWAY ???
      .
      All ya hear is ” we need more troops ” and ” how many troops ? ” and ” how do we pay for the troops ? ”
      .
      .
      .
      “each additional soldier in Afghanistan could cost $1 million”
      .
      THEIVES !!!

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    22. Um Says:

      Great, so the government will take from successful Americans, cost the economy MORE JOBS WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT 17.5% and use the money to pay for imperialism! Joining the military to defend our government assinine.

    23. Richard M. Nixon Says:

      that somes it up

    24. cooper Says:

      And the UN was conceived by Communists, was founded by Communists and always has been run by Communists for Communist purposes. This would eventually mean the complete Communist subjugation of the United States.

      UN means world dictatorship. Bush put the United States back into UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, which the United States quit many years ago.

      UNESCO was flooding the nation’s schools with Communist world government propaganda. That was one of its main purposes. See the UN series entitled Toward World Understanding.

      Along these lines, UNICEF, the UN Children’s Fund, has recently been pushing child sex with homosexuals and with animals. In South Africa, a UNICEF outfit called LoveLife promotes sodomy and abortion. Would the victims of such programs be black?

    25. THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAK,... IS A PRODUCT OF THE NWO Says:

      ################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE NWO JOB ################

      telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
      presstv.ir/detail/98327.htm?sectionid=351020401
      presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=109453&sectionid=351020101
      independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/revealed-british-plan-to-build-training-camp-for-taliban-fighters-in-afghanistan-777671.html
      iwpr.net/?p=arr&s=f&o=356886
      infowars.com/madsen-taliban-imported-to-conduct-false-flag-terrorism-in-iraq
      prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/280507usesalqaeda.htm
      prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
      infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries
      infowars.com/iran-captures-cia-terrorists
      infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_us_uses_al_qaeda_to_attack_iran.htm
      telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
      corbettreport.com/articles/20090623_destabilization.htm
      blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know
      infowars.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest
      infowars.com/former-pakistan-general-us-supports-jundullah-terrorists-in-iran
      globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13325
      wearechangechicago.com/pakistan-uncovered.html
      youtube.com/watch?v=TTTgpsAs4_c
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7942G_x-So
      blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
      blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
      abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3206417
      youtube.com/watch?v=_wg3r2YSM9g

      ################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE NWO JOB ################

    26. Johnny Canuck Says:

      Watch this documentary from 1936, it actually explains what is happening now: Go to
      http://www.bodocus.com/ when there go to: History > Modern > WW1 > Dealers IN Death.
      Nothing new under the sun, except we can make a difference. STOP ALL WAR!!!!!!!!!

    27. Myinfo4u.net Says:

      Fed Downplaying Weak Dollar! http://myinfo4u.net

    28. The Truth Says:

      Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments… But not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles… You will be shocked.

      There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.

      http://www.2besaved.com

      Blessings as you seek truth
      Ben

    29. American PRINCE Says:

      True story: so I was talking to my Sarge at the Sarah Palin book signing event at our Fort and said “Sarge, I don’t see where in the constitution it says we can tell people to keep quiet at a book signing event.”

      The Sarge looked at me, and said private!!!! You will obey your orders without question even if I order you to throw your child into a hot oven alive and then tape record his screaming and then give me the tapes so I can masturbate to them later. IS THAT UNDERSTOOD YOU FLEA BRAIN!!!

      GULFWARVET Reply:

      True story, I think Sarah Palin is a dingle berry that fell off George Bush Juniors ass.

    30. WTF Everyone! Says:

      Screw the rich, that’s not the problem here the REAL PROBLEM is….it’s costing $1,000,000 to send one soldier to Afghanistan? WTF! With the trillions we spent on these wars, we could have bought both countries 100 times over! WTF!

      Where are the terrorists? Where are the WMDs we built for everyone? It’s obvious that the Muslims were not technical capable of building them without our help! WTF! We sold them (and our Russian friends) everything they are shooting at our troops!

      So, we caused the problem by being in countries we have no business being in, in the first place! It’s time to pack up and GET OUT OF THEIR COUNTRIES! There are no terrorists! Only us doing the terrorizing to them and stealing their drugs and oil! WTF!

      zeebob Reply:

      You think thats bad, it costs an average of $400.00 per gallon for gasoline transport to Afghanistan!!

    31. keith4130 Says:

      If you want to stop war, start by killing those who profit from it. (scum NWO traitor bankers)

    32. MB Says:

      Carl ***LEVINE***. The names speak volumes. Whose enemies are we fighting?

    33. resist Says:

      Does that include taxing the Obama’s? Better read this legislation more in depth. Bet we find this on pg. 1073: tax everyone but me and my liberal friends. http://www.hardrite.com

      Join the Resistance and start recieving RSS feeds today! We will win in 2012!

    34. potangent Says:

      If they put all the taxes on the 200 to 250 thousand dollar folks that they keep proposing then it would be to our disadvantage to strive for that level of income.
      I make a livable income and would like to make more but it is concievable that I would be better off to stop striving at the 175,000 range and be financially better off than those making 250,000.

      lee Reply:

      I make bo diddly squat 2 dollars an hour plus tips of which there usually isn’t much of and even I can see that businesses might have to fire me if and when these and other taxes are raised.

    35. DCRIW79 Says:

      Wake up!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBZ0kx-2Os

    36. potangent Says:

      Did you’ll see that news story last week where some fire fighters were sueing because the more qualified firemen were getting raises rather than giving the raises to the less qualified firemen?
      A test was given to all the firemen on a particular level. Nobody was excluded from the tests. Raises were to be awarded to the folks that scored the highest. It just so happened that white firemen scored the higest so the department was prepared to give raises to those individuals. The raises would have come to a polka-dotted fireman had he scored high enough. There were no exclusionsbased on color,sex,religion,etc.
      The guys that did not score very well filed suit based on the grounds that it was racist to expect them to actually be qualified to do their jobs rather than raises just being awarded to folks based on the color of their skin.
      Well I guess it is somewhat unfair to expect folks that can’t read to be able to score high on a written test. Some day one of those guys that scored low will wind up being the Fire Chief with his assistant being someone that scored high beside him all the time soas to read the big words for him.

    37. THE WATCHER Says:

      SF – Operator – Not only can I hide, I am now “a new person” with a completely new background and the nosy, controlling, backward, lying, thieving, corrupted, murderous, anti-freedom, ILLEGAL United States “government” can kiss my nasty ass crack. They couldn’t figure out who I was born as by using every piece of their “advanced technology” combined (including DNA). I know, I had a TOP scientist from the American Academy of Forensic Sciences try and he failed miserably. Serious research, a little pioneering work, and forward thinking beats Hell out of all the government’s BULLs--- “cutting edge identification technology”. Fingerprints, DNA, scars, facial structure, eye color, ear shape, retina patterns, etc., quite contrary to common belief, can be quickly, easily, and readily modified or disguised with the help of certain brilliant physicians and scientists. Game, set, match, NWO loses. I’m permanently leaving the U.S.A. in less than twenty four hours. Those of you who still believe the USA is a “free country” have lost all touch with reality. May God help you folks, because you gutless whiners sure as Hell won’t help yourselves.

      tb Reply:

      Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I’m going to stay and fight.

      mike65 Reply:

      WATCHER-MEET your new cellmate BUBBA.

    38. GMAN Says:

      2nd

    39. GMAN Says:

      Why hasn’t their already been a revolution? Because you have been programmed to expect your paycheck to be x with all the stealing taking place prior to you getting paid.

    40. 3 Percent Says:

      Just end the fed, just end the fed!

    41. lee Says:

      those of us who bought gold around 2000 or so could see this coming a mile away. of course taxes will need to be raised to pay for the wars since the overspending during bush admin was all based on higher asset values and continued fast rise in asset values projected thru infinity, which was just soooo assinine we couldn’t pass up the metals opportunity.

    42. 9/11 = inside job Says:

      Ron says, there is actually no evidence that they are working on it (bills and such). This means at the time. There is enough evidence that camps or prisons around the country exist and could later be used by the NWO satanist crowd, you never know.

      Btw, the CIA is working outside of congress, you know about it and can you see everything they do, like the torture the CIA is carying out?

      9/11 = inside job Reply:

      Events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were ALL accompanied by Security/Military EXERCISES which paralleled the real events

      http://www.historycommons.org/.....yExercises
      historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian

      Nano Thermite found in WTC dust

      stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThermiticMaterial.html
      ae911truth.org/info/51
      russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-07-09/Did_nano-thermite_take_down_the_WTC.html

      zeebob Reply:

      Just watched Camp Fema. It was really well done and informative. The film covers the history of American internment camps starting with the mass internment of Americans of Japanese decent. There was a very high percentage of natural born Americans that were put in the camps. It then chronicles the modern day programs designed to round up and imprison groups of people deemed dangerous to continuity of government. The US government has gone completely rouge and they are preparing for mass insurrection. The government is hell bent on surviving even if the American people want to change it. And yes folks the film makers have pictures and locations of some of the camps.

    43. Josh Fulton Says:

      What is the US really doing with Iran’s “frozen” assets?

      http://joshfulton.blogspot.com.....rozen.html

    44. cooper Says:

      The UN was conceived by Communists, was founded by Communists and always has been run by Communists for Communist purposes. This would eventually mean the complete Communist subjugation of the United States.

      UN means world dictatorship. Bush put the United States back into UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, which the United States quit many years ago.

      UNESCO was flooding the nation’s schools with Communist world government propaganda. That was one of its main purposes. See the UN series entitled Toward World Understanding.

      Along these lines, UNICEF, the UN Children’s Fund, has recently been pushing child sex with homosexuals and with animals. In South Africa, a UNICEF outfit called LoveLife promotes sodomy and abortion. Would the victims of such programs be black?

    45. Big Sully Says:

      Well, what are the things you’ve done to help this country stay up?

      It’s easy to point at others and say they haven’t done enough- What did you do?

    46. jjj Says:

      White people hate the truth – and thus hate God – and thus everyone – including themselves!!!!

      Hillbilly Patriot Reply:

      HEY IF YOU DONT LIKE WHITE PEOPLE,….GO THE f--- BACK TO YOUR HOMELAND YOU RUBBERLIP SOB !!!

      Highlanderess Reply:

      Hey Hillbilly; ignore this ahole. He/she doesn’t quit. Same nonsense day after day. You’d think they would get tired of spewing the same crap.

    47. jjj Says:

      WHITE SATANIC DIS_ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    48. rich Says:

      you know in soem ways this is actually good. if it makes people realize that the war isn’t free, maybe they’ll be less likely to support it, i sure hope thats the case anyway.

    49. Hillbilly Patriot Says:

      Ya’ll sayin 200,000 is nothing?
      Ya’ll,…..dont know what being poor is do ya ?
      Motherf---ers,…i work my ass off driving trucks for a living and only make 40,000 if iam lucky and iam making it and still really aint hurtin !!!! What is it with you yuppyfied f---ers who cry if you dont make a huge amount of money? Iam paying for a home and all the bulls--- like others and still aint bitchin ! Ya’ll got the nutts to cry about how 200,000 wont buy anything !!!!hahahahaha what a bunch oif godamned idiots ! Iam paying child support, paying for a home, all other bills and still aintr bitchin !!!!you people are a f---ing joke !!!! no wonder California is such a gfoddamned mess !!! Ya’ll just as well join the dirty cocksuckers like the rockefellors and such !!!! ya’ll are whats f---ing this world up man !!! people wouldnt need gobs of money to live if they knowed how to budget s--- !!!!ya’ll are just a bunch of goddamned crybabies like the NWO !!!!point made !!!!

      Highlanderess Reply:

      You’ve made NO point with me. Your constant use of using God’s name in vain is quite sickening. And to think you’re one of those parents who probaly talk this smack all the time in front of your kids is pathetic.

      zeebob Reply:

      What is gods name anyway? I didn’t see hillbilly use any name of any god. What’s the deal?

      Steve Reply:

      Obama is your god, your sheeple!

      Steve Reply:

      Not C-d but Allauh!!!!

      in the woods Reply:

      they still taking about taxing the rich for the war. The Repuks will support the troops at less they will put there litte flag back on. suck there fat guts in and vote no.

      in the woods Reply:

      this war on terror must go on if we pull out Obama might get another 4 years. he didnt read the polls maybe he craze ,we got him now Repukes must vote yes to get the white house back.

      in the woods Reply:

      driving truck is a hard life, at one time a person could own a couple trucks and make a fair living it still was hard but now its just a race to the poor house. YA Cal. is a sit hole full of cry babies. I was a union Ironworker 36 years bust may ass in all weather. There just alot of cry babies out there they dont want a job were they cant be on the phone all day are get wet, cold, dirty. I thought I had the best job but we couldnt fine people who could do the work are wanted the work.I like to make cry babies cry more, tease them intell they leave. Drive old cars wear old clothes ,budget for the slow years thats life.

    50. chem trails Says:

      I just got some great footage of them NWO chem trailing us here in my hometown

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Ew8msC3Tc

      sub my you tube account for more good chem trail exposure …the NWO is out in force

      the chemtrail guy,

      john

    51. chem trails Says:

      I just got some great footage of them NWO chem trailing us here in my town

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Ew8msC3Tc

      sub my you tube account for more good chem trail exposure …the NWO is out in force

      the chemtrail guy

      john

    52. Agent Orange Says:

      SF-Operator….you are the “genius” who said the banks were going to shut down in September. I recall you guaranteeing this would happen. I believe you were also the one who said the government had an underground army of clones….go back to drinking your tainted kool-aid you freakazoid!

    53. WrongNWO Says:

      “NATO should provide half of the new soldiers”

      They will have 2 hurry up then….most people here(eu) are starting 2 refuse the army and will not join=A W E S O M E

    54. MADE IN AMERICA? Says:

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    55. Bernard Romanycia Says:

      Chairman of the Armed Services wants more money for WAR. Didn’t Ozzy and his band sing about this kind of behaviour?

    56. Mr Jenkins Says:

      The ‘elite’ are paying for the chemtrails so why can’t they pay for the war takeover of other defenceless countries??

      Should take over Australia and get all the blondes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they’ve got oil & uranium too!!!

    57. websuspect Says:

      Woohoo Now the raping of my wealthy friends will begin. Soon there outlook on government will change to less than honorable.

    58. Highlanderess Says:

      This nation is falling just like the others. We don’t allow prayer in our schools anymore and murder unborn babies. We’re greedy, selfish, lying, deceitful and lustful. We have allowed government to put us under all these laws with more coming at us every day.

      As long as the ones who are monitoring these boards can keep us on our keyboards and off the streets they’re the ones who are winning

      zeebob Reply:

      The problem with your outlook is that the groundwork and structure for the destruction of our nation has been going on for generations when you COULD pray in schools and abortion on demand was non existent. Our parents and grandparents generations erected this monster; we will have to be the ones to slay the beast.

    59. kev Says:

      To bring down the rich with the middle class.

    60. FreedomLover Says:

      My hope is in Jesus Christ, not in a corrupt govt. So I’m following His directives, helping the poor in my sphere of influence, giving them hope beyond this life. I don’t sit on my lazy bum soaking up the propaganda machine, turned it off 10 years ago. There is no reason for other people to know my personal business. God knows. I am accountable only to Him.

    61. 4w578i Says:

      The upper income brackets defer taxes to legally approved shelters, and their positions were subsidized by the govt, in the first place.

    62. Stibbs22 Says:

      It is time for the third party, Republican, Democrat, Liberians.

      Make this happen, support the alternates.

      free me Reply:

      __RESTORE THE REPUBLIC__

      SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION

    63. Russ Says:

      The taxation part is right on what RoadDog said. I have been teaching a class and holding seminars on how the corporation works for individuals who desire to incorporate and use the same rule book to their advantage for the last three years and last week I sat down and wrote a short book called “The Entrepreneurial Spirit inside the body of a Slave”

      The Rich own only one thing, a corporation, which transfers liablity, avoids taxation and maintains the full power of the dollar, versus the poor slave laborer who is taught that money has value and it is smart to save money and own everything, thereby losing money and keeping the liablility.

      If you want to learn about this, especially in this economy, you can download it for free in a Word Doc format, only 64 pages on my personal website at http://www.RussFalkenburg.com

      This is my gift to the world as I learned their language and translated it in simple common language we can all understand. Also, fighting on these forums gets you no where. Have a most excellent day.

    64. Bargeman Says:

      Shill, you wouldn’t make a pimple on Ron Paul’s ass.

    65. itchy Says:

      Great Britain to this day collects taxes from the American people. The IRS is not an Agency of the United States Government.

      http://www.thegeorgiaguideston.....usions.htm

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    67. bondage sex Says:

      “Great Britain to this day collects taxes from the American people. The IRS is not an Agency of the United States Government.”

      that is the dumbest thing I’ve read this morning. It’s still early but I think this might stick as the dumb quote of the day.

    68. hello Says:

      I thought Lenin said at first , lol

    69. IN THE WOODS Says:

      I love it tax the rich people to hell and pay this war off they got to do it before the election You no the mid turn maybe that is spelled wrong maybe spelled is spelled wrog DAM THOSES GREEN COOKIES

    70. IN THE WOODS Says:

      WHAT AWASTED LIFE i live

    71. The Truth Says:

      Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments… But not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles… You will be shocked.

      THERE IS A GREAT NEW AUDIO THERE FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO. YOU WILL COME AWAY ASKING MANY QUESTIONS. REAL SHOCKING.

      http://www.2besaved.com

      Blessings as you seek truth
      Ben

    72. Vic Says:

      Why write “tax rich more” just say: tax jews more!

    73. murder and theft makes the best Americans.....NOT Says:

      As ALL of the wealthy on this continent stole and scammed against everyone else, they should be rounded up, interned, stripped of their profits from crime, tried, and punished. Stripped of all holdings and incarcerated for “ongoing criminal collusion against the United Staes of America”, but who are we kidding? The “nation” was a pre-planned staged crime racket from 1492, “organized to protect and pursue illegal criminal activity” in 1776.

      in the woods Reply:

      did people real think there house was worth more everyday who scammed who. I got a 6th grade education but can smell a skunk its a hard lesson for alot of people out there. I no this is a great country and will pull out of this if people are honest with themselfs an others.

    74. in the woods Says:

      NOT its all about peoples morals. There is nothing nobody can do about that other then dont deal , trade are barter with them. thats work for me.

    75. lee Says:

      but, but , but, rummsfeld said the war would pay for itself.

    76. Oali Says:

      If you guys believe Alex Jones as i do…kindly check out my video on youtube:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgrWfJc8F3Q

    77. Boomer Says:

      Man…I’m glad I’m not one of the upper income guys! Lets see… so far they are going to pay for the health plan, the defecit, the bail out and now the Afghan war. Sure! I’m holding my breath for that. Wait till these folks cut off the campaign contributions. What do ya think will happen then? You and I are going to pay for all this insanity and the upper income guys will keep raking in the profits…untaxed of course!

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