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    January 13, 2009

    US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has ruled out negotiations with the Palestinian Islamist militant group Hamas unless it drops its extremist stance, saying her position is “absolute”.

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    “On Israel, you cannot negotiate with Hamas until it renounces violence, recognises Israel and agrees to abide by past agreements. That is just for me an absolute,” Mrs Clinton told a Senate confirmation hearing.

    “That is the United States government’s position. That is the president-elect’s position,” she said after a senator suggested it is “naive and illogical” to pursue diplomacy with governments opposed to Israel.

    She echoed the stance of the outgoing administration of President George W. Bush which is supporting Egyptian efforts to mediate a ceasefire following an 18-day Israeli war to stop Hamas rocket attacks.

    Palestinian medical sources said around 70 more people had been killed in the fighting, bringing the overall toll to around 975 Palestinians with a further 4400 wounded.

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    73 Responses to “US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rules out talks with Hamas”

    1. Immortal Says:

      Well nothing new here, U.S. defending Israeli terrorists!

    2. Sarah Says:

      Only way to deal with Hamas / Palestinians is to eradicate the problem. Gaza belongs to Israel so Hamas / Palestinians should be given 2 options.

      Option 1: Leave Gaza and move to Egypt or Jordan.
      Option 2: Be exterminated with Biological Weapons.

    3. Jive Mothafacko Says:

      My God…One of the first tenets of any public servant should be open-mindedness. ICH BEIN EIN AMERICAN! If I have to hear one more person speak of Israel like they are the Aunt with the money that they might inherit, I’m going to vomit!

      WAGON! WAGON!

      DEAD BODIES DRAGGIN’!

      MCL

    4. LAKOTA Says:

      OH WELL

    5. Lysander Says:

      so.ci.o.path
      noun
      a person lacking moral responsibility, conscience.

    6. KLC Says:

      #2 – Gaza does not “belong” to Israel. Palestinians have lived there in peace before European Jews started immigrating there during the early part of this century. (1920’s I think) The british monarcy “tried” to split the land into 2 states…but the jewish people couldn’t stand living next to Arabs.

      and really….you can’t just go eradicating a whole people/culture…Tell me, how did the jews like it when Hitler tried that eh??

      the ashkehnazi jews have no homeland or state …so they try and steal land from other peoples.
      FACT. look it up.

    7. Greg Says:

      Makes me sick to my stomach.

    8. Where'stherelationsat Says:

      She lucky if she could talk a kid on a short bus to stop licking the window duh!!

    9. NYJohn Says:

      She is constitutionally ineligible to be Secretary of State, just as Obama is ineligible to be president.
      It is obvious to all that Zionist Israel runs the puppet government of the US and will commit genocide regardless of world opinion. They are sadistic butchers and the world would be a lot better off if Israel wouldn’t of been “created” in the first place. The future is not going to be pretty.

    10. staggerlee Says:

      WOW Sara #2 sounds like a cold hearted evil C.an’t U.nderstand N.ormal T.hinking

    11. jerry Says:

      had this meeting taken place in Gaza, would her comments be the same. More like playing to the home crowd if you ask me.

    12. john Says:

      To Sarah. How can you make such an anti-semetic comment? Remember the Palistinians are the only Semites in this fight. The Israeli government now consists of only the offspring of the drunken orgy held after the Mongol’s conquered the Turks. Shame on you girl.

    13. Lysander Says:

      In Israel, Sarah is considered a hippie.

    14. Henry8 & Peter Peter too Says:

      Look at her, she’s become an old witch and thank God she never became our president.

      Someone please, get the hook and drag her off the stage before she rots before our eyes like a dried out pumpkin.

      Whew, really stinky man, BARFFFF!!!

    15. mr. spock Says:

      sarah are you related to billary? beware of the khazars, they would pimp out anyone, or steal- like the blessings that belong to the true House Of Isreal (modern day NW Europe & Usa).

    16. Kaleb Says:

      @Sarah, you are human just as the people of Palestine. You wouldn’t want them bombing you and your family so quit the elitist thinking.

    17. Scott Says:

      #13: Right on the money!! The Khazar!! The zionist zeolots, WUJS, have all down loaded the MEGAPHONE software program. It’s similar to the Eschelon/Carinivore software. It collects key words from posts concerning any thing anti-Israel, anti-zionist …etc. Just giving you a heads up on Sarah, Noah, Nate and LOL plus any other post that seems like it’s coming from a child on a playground!!

    18. Nate Says:

      You go Hillary!! Wow.. I might actually start to like this hag!! NO TALK with hamas.. They are terrorists.. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

    19. Nate Says:

      NOTE TO SARAH.. Check this out.. This is classic.. Garbage day in Gaza!! You are the only one here intelligent enough to find this funny!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

    20. zeebob Says:

      Nate, you and sarah need to get together. You both are cockroaches and need to be exterminated.

    21. zeebob Says:

      By the way Nate and sarah, what are your pay grades?

    22. john Says:

      Hi Scott #19. What is this WUJS and why should I care if they know that I dislike the political viewpoint of the Ashkenazi, Talmudic government of Israel? If it’s that some Federal office may be allerted as to my comments, well, I think such an office would have already been notifide as I contact senators and representatives on a regular basis. Either way thanks for the head’s up and just need a bit of clarification please.

    23. Jesus is Lord! Says:

      Of course the world hates Israel, yes Armagedon is around the corner, of course the elite are manufacturing a finacial calapse of the U.S., and of course the Constitution barely has a pulse… Let the New World Order do as they wish, we know how the story ends (the book of Revelations in the Bible).

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMT_kAD6cOg

    24. ===== Says:

      #21 Death is so hilarious. When the NWO beheads you after paying you your measly pittance pay I am going to giddy with laughter. You might not find it so funny though… Oh well too bad for you right?

    25. CerealBowlLifeGuard Says:

      nate + sarah = tlf

    26. Lee Says:

      Hillary Clinton Constitutionally Ineligible to Serve as Secretary of State

      According to the Ineligibility Clause of the United States Constitution, no member of Congress can be appointed to an office that has benefited from a salary increase during the time that Senator or Representative served in Congress. A January 2008 Executive Order signed by President Bush during Hillary Clinton’s current Senate term increased the salary for Secretary of State, thereby rendering Senator Clinton ineligible for the position.
      Specifically, Article I, section 6 of the U.S. Constitution provides “No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time.” The provision is seen by most as designed by our Founding Fathers to protect against corruption.

    27. Nate and Sarah.... Says:

      …..are one in the same. Huge loser you are. (Yoda’s voice)

    28. Tomas Estrada-Palma Says:

      Here is my Ron Paul graphic. Use it to promote freedom please.

      http://artedetomas.blogspot.com/

    29. Lysander Says:

      #19 Scott

      Thanks for reminding everyone about Megaphone and GIYUS. It also looks like the Israeli Foreign Ministry is now getting directly involved:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....stry-media

    30. kagil Says:

      That is why I NEVER would have EVER voted for her for president, and I NEVER will.

    31. Here is a List of ISRAEL'S Products to BOYCOTT Says:

      http://www.inminds.com/boycott-us-companies.html

    32. Joseph W Says:

      Why doesn’t anyone try to lead by example? This incident is allegedly because Hamas just started messing with the military that was occupying the Gaza for many years. Instead of letting it go and announcing that they were going to rain on their party if they don’t stop, they just start firing all sorts of experimental weapons (to those who have seen the pictures). No peaceful resolution intended…they just start firing right away..but it’s okay as Palestinians are all blood-sucking heathens (fron the Western Perspective).

    33. Invincible 1st Amendment Says:

      Okay how is this Secretary of State thing really gonna play out with such a resentful drama queen who’s probably going through menopause right now? This was one of the first real signs that Obama wasn’t serious about bringing in his own regime change. We can all see what an insiders club they got up on that hill…my God! Maybe she’ll just go nuts and resign after a year and won’t ever be reelected to Congress either. With all her dirty laundry from the ’90s, she deserves nothing short of an excommunication from Washington. She and her dirtbag husband both disgraced and desecrated the White House. I really can’t even stand to hear this lady talk.

    34. Download Megaphone and Fight Israel's killing Spree in Gaza Says:

      http://giyus.org/

    35. crashcrisis Says:

      Secretary of State? Not until the Inauguration.

    36. Marko Says:

      The Israeli army and it’s sadistic behavior against Palestinians: http://www.hamoked.org.il/news_main_en.asp?id=623

    37. war-ing Says:

      #35……your bullshit on hill & bill are just about as stupid as you must be ….You f…ing retard the economy was the best in years …after ronnie& georgie !!!!reagan -bush the X C.I.A boss because he could not win dogcatcher much less President 60 million on bills dick 50 grand on 911 what kind of dumb f— are you now lil busto just about to have you’re ass in a concentration camp !!!!!stolen 10-12 trillion to his pals on wall st . oh yeah thats where they killed americans. so they could on his way out the door i. e. country kill the usa do the world a favor!!!!! you must be another plant for LORD BUSH go w/ him …maybe we’ll start bombin the real perps on 911 when they get the f… out of my country have a nice day you retard……..

    38. war-ing Says:

      Bush ruined this country not bill ’s DICK !!!!!Alex the people on here are a bunch retards

    39. Invincible 1st Amendment Says:

      MUD COCK !!! IS THAT YOU??? How do like this site? It’s a little bit wilder than Elliot’s forum, but I feel I belong here in many ways. Sorry Hillary didn’t make it in, but ya got Obama, eh?

    40. Lyn Says:

      Public office at this level is not for the closed-minded like Clinton is, she should be removed from taking office.

      She is showing the true colours of the Clinton clan, Bill was much better at faking humanity, the old Bilderbug.

    41. Skip Says:

      Jesus is lord is correct, our constitution is being shredded as we know it:

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f.....geId=83364

    42. adapt and overcome Says:

      a fine example of the guvment not abiding by the peoples wishes. not just america, but all of the western world. the “people” wish to stop supporting the murderous state, yet the guvment (s)persists.
      #44 that’s good.

    43. LogicalAssault Says:

      They dont care its not their kids and family getting shot up over there. Neo-Con scum!

    44. casey Says:

      Mr. Spock–you actually know that the U.S.A. and part of Europe are the true Israelites.

    45. sideburnsguy Says:

      we must remove all traces of semitism from humanity then all of the problems will be solved. no more wars!

    46. David Says:

      Nothing better expected from this Bitch

    47. teletublords Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9EGC60GDw

    48. CounterStrike Says:

      This UCKING witch. Hamas Hamas Hamas…. shut the UCK UP!!

    49. Washington Says:

      Thanks oh great Obama the selected negro…putting the wolf in charge of watching the sheep…

      We are a dead nation, with dead brainwashed, and pussified men. We will do nothing but stand and watch as they destroy this once great nation taken over by the bankers and captured in 1913.

      For almost 100 years, we have done nothing.

      Cowards, and pussy’s are all that’s left of the real men of the US.

      Even the brainwashed military members, after serving, end up shooting themselves because of what ever reasons………why not have some balls you pussy, and instead of shooting yourselves, at least take out a fucking Capt, or Lt, or someone higher up before you pull your trigger?

      Sad Sad Sad affair, if you ask me.

    50. willyc Says:

      our message needs to diversify and unite, work hard to try and support other alternative media in any way shape or form. REVOLUTION!

    51. dave Says:

      Right,we should not talk to the legitimately elected government of the Palestinians,nor should we talk to the Iranian government either.
      All of these sick statements come from Israel demanding that we follow their lead,it’s as if all of our elected leaders are just sock puppets with Israeli hands jammed deep into their asses,making them say what they wish..
      When will Americans demand that our congress choose WHAT’S BEST FOR AMERICA,not what’s best for Israel?

    52. Jedi Says:

      Only a Sith deals in absolutes!

    53. Major Dixon Says:

      Hillary has the biggest set of balls of them all….

    54. See through the smoke and mirrors Says:

      Hill-derberg Clinton is a magnificent puppet. Isn’t it obvious that her words are so elegantly scripted?

    55. epoch Says:

      lets dig hitler up and renegotite with him … i mean chamberlain was so succesful … kl them all … if they domt recognize your right to exist recognize your right to kill them all … give the people what they want … hillary is only about 5 times smarter and ten times tougher than the pussies on this blog …

    56. mrmakymkay Says:

      hillary taking this position is unconstitutional. it looks like corruption in the govt folks. bout time to fix this problem.
      its funny that an audio tape of bin laden is calling for a jihad against isreal! two factions of our govt since bin laden is cia are calling for support on both sides hmm. sound like someone wants a big big war.

    57. MsMadame Says:

      Remember the ‘playground bully’ in grade school imposing terror on other students by using his sniveling and cowardly followers to do his bidding.

      That was America and Israel.

      However, now the power has shifted and Israel has gained the upper hand.

      That is why America will not and cannot intervene.

      Israel is leading the American government by a ‘victim turned, serial-murderer,’ blood-soaked leash.

      It is so ungodly that the citizenry must always pay for the psychopathy of its leaders.

    58. War Is Crime Says:

      Just to remind you who she is. Nothing from her will surprise you anymore:
      http://www.wariscrime.com/2008.....es-it-hot/

    59. yellowhak1 Says:

      #63 i heard that thismorning on our local news in regards to bin laden. it was so painfully obvious and ambarrassing. #62 epoch go back and study real history. the bush family and hitler etc… that includes schwartzneggar because you are obviously 5 times dumber and 10 times weaker than the rest of us.

    60. 4w578i Says:

      “On Israel, you cannot negotiate with Hamas until it renounces violence, recognises Israel and agrees to abide by past agreements. That is just for me an absolute,” Mrs Clinton told a Senate confirmation hearing.

      Anyone who has read the Koran knows that observant Muslims will never recognize Israel.

      Like other progressive globalists, Hillary probably blames the problem on any fundamentalism whatsoever, whether it is Hamas, your local Baptist pastor, or a sovereign Israel.

    61. Neocon Narc Says:

      Like Carlin said…
      They don’t investigate themselves.
      So it is safe to assume they don’t negotiate with people they can kill.

      Negotiations requires both sides to be wanting something out of the negotiations.
      If you don’t want anything, you just war and keep coming up with stall on any peace discussions.

      It’s easy to tell when someone would rather kill you than talk to you.
      It takes a cold blooded woman to sleep with a lying and unfaithful husband. She has had good practice at looking the other way when it comes to morale obligations.
      After Bill lied on public TV, no one should ever believe any of them again.
      How dare you Bill!!! How dare you!!!

    62. Robb in Tucson Says:

      I did a double-take when I read this. I thought Obama was the commander-in-chief? Now Hillary is calling the shots? Or is it Bill? This gets confusing!!

    63. scienceofficer Says:

      hillary is a confessed witch like bush was a confessed satan worshiper, i.e. skull and bones! america’s federal government is ruled by satan the god of america.

      most americans are not conserned about government the ones who are are blinded by satanic power to see the evil in action. and 4 the few who see with clear eyes, born agains understand its satan’s plan to rule the earth as a saviour just like hitler was germany’s saviour licking at the human wast as it was eturnal power.

      american’s are being setup to receive there saviour the anti-christ and his false profit the pope.
      only the illuminati have the power in wealth to control world markets and with the security and eschange commission on the pad are at loose in walstreet as we all see.

      global control by money crysis, make the problem, then solve the problem! my sugestion do not take any mark or number or swair to any oath to world leader who is comming soon.

      you can trust me?

    64. Cobalt Says:

      Me too, #70 scienceofficer, me too.

    65. Max Says:

      Hilary Rodman is reportedly Jewish in many documentaries I have seen so this is not surprising and is a very good reason that Jewish duel citizens shouldn’t be allowed in American politics.

    66. Johson Says:

      I have no government, I have a liability which I have to pay for. I’m ashamed to be from a country who has such utter disregard for its citizens, and such a ridiculous bunch of fat, rich, worthless pigs running the show. This system needs to be flushed from the top down. Obama is as crooked as the rest and the next person who describes him to me as some sort of savior will be promptly knocked out for being a moron. Naturaly selection should have bred out these weak minded individuals by now but what can i say, many have slipped thru the cracks. I’m truly disgusted.

    67. Nate Says:

      NO TALKS WITH hamas!! They are not a legit organization worthy of talks. We pay these government employees good money, we dont want them wasting valuable time chit chatting with criminals. Besides, it’s garbage day in Gaza.. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING GAZA!!

      This is too funny, it’s amazing they can get that garbage truck through those narrow alleyways..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

    68. Mike Philbin Says:

      having witnessed the genocidal holocaust that is Gaza over the last few weeks with no denunciation from USA, I now have the real fear that America IS now an occupied Israeli territory. Maybe all American policy and false flags are being dictated from outside the States. Can that have happened? The States held ransom?

    69. solomon Says:

      Jeffrey Dahmer could implement greater foreign policy than Hillary. We have another evil moron added to a greatly evil and moronic administration. Don’t expect the economy to get any better, don’t expect much of anything but poverty and violence until the people reject all government interference in their lives. This means all economic, social and medical programs that “benefit” citizens. Protection of life, liberty and property is the only province of government.

      Remember, Ludwig von Mises said There is no middle way. In other words: all government programs intended for the welfare of the people will gradually grow into monstrous behemoths that suck and feed off the people, making the people overall poorer. The problems created by these programs and the warfare that goes along with it, will always give an excuse for politicians to step in with increasing regulation in order to “fix” the problem.

      Who knows how to spend YOUR money better than YOU? After all, it is YOUR money, is it not?

    70. Eric Nordstrom Says:

      Yes, a clinton in the White House, good thing we have that change. (Shaking my head)

    71. domo Says:

      To all you antisemites, if you believe that the Jews took over the Palestinian lands by force and that does not sit well with you, then I suggest you abandon your homes, your lands,your businesses, and all your possessions that you have attained if not for this country, and give it back to the native indians.
      It’s the right thing to do.

    72. Renegade Says:

      Isreali’s give jews a bad name. They stole the land from the arabs and now they are exterminating them like the Nazis did to them. And of course Hillary bends over backwards for them (hey she’s gotta pay the bills right?) and shills thier zionist propiganda here in America. Which makes us look worse to the rest of the world. Yet another politician that makes me less proud to be American.

    73. have a nice day Says:

      when did negotiations cease with constructive discussions dealing with the views of one side voicing thier arguement so that it could be understood by the opposing side. Who do you negotiate with, the side that already agrees with you. Hillary is full of shit and should be tried right along with the rest of these treasonist bastards. these assholes sicken me with thier arrogant attitude. This is america not fucking israel. Where’s the compassion knowing the suffering and death the zionist jews have dealt the palestinians. They should be fucking ashamed of themselves or are they just monsters. Hillary and the rest have even more infomation on the attrocities that israel inflicted on gaza and they don’t even step in to stop the genocide. give me back my country , and for Hillary and the rest of these neocon go to hell