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VA Critic Characterizes Stories of Mass Graves as “Rumor-mongering”
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Infowars
April 1, 2009
Appearing on the Thom Hart radio show today, a Veterans Administration critic, Larry Scott, characterized the mass grave story covered by Alex Jones, Infowars, and Prison Planet as “rumor-mongering.”
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An audio of the accusation from the Thom Hart Show
According to Scott, the expansion of graves around the county is part of a standard upgrade intended to accommodate a record number of veteran deaths. Larry Scott puts the number at an astounding 700,000 per year.
Scott’s website, VA Watchdog, has posted the following:
RUMOR CONTROL — I’ve been getting lots of email with photos that purport to show “mass graves for U.S. citizens” being dug and crypts being installed at the VA’s Phoenix cemetery (and other locations). This disinformation is coming from websites that pander to the paranoids and offer the most outrageous conspiracy theories as fact. Disregard this nonsense! Here is what is happening… http://tinyurl.com/cydpom Just planned cemetery upgrades. 4/1/09
On March 25, Infowars posted a story by Shepard Ambellas on a large number of new graves installed at the National Memorial Cemetery of Arizona at Phoenix.
Ambellas’ report was followed on March 26 byvideo footage of the gave site posted on YouTube.
Alex Jones interviews Shepard Ambellas on March 25, 2009. Part 2.
On March 28, an Infowars reader in Texas sent photos of a mass grave site under construction at the Houston National Cemetery. “It has yet to be established what these grave sites are for, although an official contacted at the Phoenix cemetery told Jason Douglass, producer of Jason Bermas’ Infowarrior radio show (and the Alex Jones Show), that the practice of digging multiple graves with large crypts is commonplace,” I reported for Infowars.
The mass grave stories appeared after suspicions were aroused last July when it was reported that hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins liners were discovered near near Madison, Georgia. “Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination. It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control,” a post on the Neithercorp Forum explained. Additional research revealed that the plastic grave liners are manufactured by PolyGuard Vaults.
“I did some more research to determine if the government did business with PolyGuard Vaults. Indeed, the U.S. Veterans Administration has been buying Burial Vaults from PolyGuard Vaults for years,” writes the Cryptogon blog.
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Infowars noted at the time: “If you think all of this is simply conspiracy mongering, consider the fact our government indeed repeatedly plans for widespread ‘bio-terrorist’ attacks, most notably Operation Dark Winter, staged nearly three months before the attacks of September 11, 2001, and the subsequent anthrax attacks beginning on September 18, 2001. As well, consider the national-level domestic and international TOPOFF exercises, primarily involving biological and chemical attacks.”
Prior to the mass grave stories last month, D. H. Williams of the Daily Newscaster reported on the revelations of an Indiana county municipal official in the vicinity of Chicago.
Williams’ source reported discussions between FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and Indiana officials on a “Hazard Mitigation Plan” that included “where mass graves could be placed in the county” in addition to plans for mass vaccinations and “hardening” of police and fire stations. Indiana officials were “told if industry were to collapse for example GM going bankrupt resulting in mass unemployment a depression would soon follow and municipalities could expect to loose 40% of their funds,” according to Williams.
The Jones Report has posted a story today with photographs of plastic coffin liners awaiting pickup at an undisclosed location in Alabama. “This unsettling site may well correspond with concerned reports of mass graves being prepared at National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona, at the Houston National Cemetery as well as numerous other reports,” reports Aaron Dykes.
See a slideshow of the photographs and read the report here.
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
cut and dry. well said !
April 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I must say the quality of posts on this site has declined drasticly in the last 14-18 months. But in the last three it has gone down the drain. I guess all the real patroits have turned off there P.C’s and loaded up @ yellowstone. Or tent city in cali. ?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:06 pm
larry scott is a f---in lier. you can’t bulls--- all of the american people
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Say it to his face you coward
April 1st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Larry Scott is an idiot.
The CDC is the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Why do they need so many crypts throughout America? Are all vets concidered diseased now?
These vaults are for future disease creations designed for us.
When a vet dies they are burried in individual coffins, not mass graves. Think about it. The math does not add up.
Jason Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
Kerry,
Those were my thoughts exactly; (According to Scott, the expansion of graves around the county is part of a standard upgrade intended to accommodate a record number of veteran deaths. Larry Scott puts the number at an astounding 700,000 per year.) Does this mean that they are admitting that the crap they have pumped in all of us veterans will be killing us within the next few years?
Does anyone know they exact number of veterans in the U.S. alone? I have not done the research yet but, I am pretty sure that the number given is bigger than what we actually have here. This stinks to high heaven and everyone needs to get prepared because it seems they are getting ready for many of us to die, non-vets included.
Any other thoughts on this story?
Kerry Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
It all comes down to the spin. Because we all live in the same space as the Government the only way they can get away with what they do is to hide it in plain site. I do not worry about the things I see, but the things that are truly hidden from us.
It is the individual that see’s that what we are being fed, by the FED, does not match what is.
When the public is finally able to see the fact that the Government does not care for you in the helping or concerened aspect, rather they look at how they can exploit you for their purpose at your expense or vulnerability. They get their power by your willingness to be manipulated.
Dr. Orpheus Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
“Does this mean that they are admitting that the crap they have pumped in all of us veterans will be killing us within the next few years?”
No. I invite you to figure out the average age of Vietnam Vets, for example. Once you’ve done that, take a look at the obituaries in your local paper. Now, form a logical conclusion.
Lots of Vets are going to be kicking the bucket soon due to the natural process of aging and the diseases that come with it. That’s all it is.
I’m really unhappy that Alex has decided to run with this story. It’s highly unlikely that there is any conspiracy in this.
Pascal Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Exactly what I thought, the vets are not buried in crypts. That Scott is an ass. I just hope hes gonna be the first buried in those crypts…lol
Pascal Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Oups the Reply was for Kerry
Kerry Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Larry Scott was right about one thing, it is cemetary upgrades. But what type of upgrades is he talking about? You do not think that these coffins would be burried at the White House or the Capitol Building do you? That is what a graveyard is for.
Here is a real conspiracy theory, maybe these coffins are for all the money that is going to be burried along side the Dictatorship Government leaders and the money they have stole from us all and they do not want to part with it so they are trying to take it with them. Real cash vaults.
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
HEY COWARD – WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR VETERANS AND THIS COUNTRY?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:18 pm
After reading State dept 7277 ” Freedom from war” all this is easy to understand.
We give up our soverignty to the U.N and the U.N charter calls for a downsizing of the worlds population through war, famine and disease. ( NEW WORLD ORDER)
Join a militia and then look it up, there may not be time to do it in reverse order.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Larry Scott says 700,00 soldiers die a year? That’s about 35% of all the people that die in the US in a year. Impossible.
…and he says Alex Jones is the conspiracy theorist?
WHAMMO! Reply:
April 1st, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I thought old soldiers just faded away… xD
But seriously, wouldn’t it be prudent to be prepared for a catastrophic event? IF there is a nuke war or plague are they just gonna let the corpses pile up and rot and spread disease?
Black Sheep Reply:
April 1st, 2009 at 11:40 pm
you’re missing a zero. Anyway according to the cdc the number of US deaths in 2005 was 2,448,017. That’s pretty close at 28.59 % to your 35 %. Interestingly, the number of vets in 2005 was about 24.5 million (i’m assuming that means among the living) 700000/24.5 million*100 gives 3.06 veterans. About 8 % of the US population are veterans. Thats amazingly disproportionate until you start to think about what they must have gone through.
Black Sheep Reply:
April 1st, 2009 at 11:51 pm
haha I’m missing the percent sign its 3.06 % of the total veterans that existed in 2005 which would die according to the 700000 figure.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
At risk of additional “rumour-mongering” (!?) -
Here are some Google Search Hits results (all with full results, i.e. “repeat the search with the omitted results included” = Yes) …
Search for Terms:
2004 “Solicitation Number” “National Cemetery” Graveliners OR “Grave Liners” site:https://www[dot]fbo[dot]gov
Hits = 0
2005 [plus rest of terms as above]
Hits = 5
2006
Hits = 3
2007
Hits = 0
2008
Hits = 35
2009
Hits = 52
There could of course be various reasons/interpretations for this increase in numbers, other than a straight increase in construction contracts. Perhaps. Or not.
Warning Light Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:01 am
MASS GRAVES WITH NO NAME OR NO HONOR AND FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR PATRIOTS, CHRISTIANS, DISSENTERS AND THE UNEMPLOYED HOMELESS COMING SOON! FOOTAGE AND PHOTOS NOW AVAILABLE ON YOU TUBE! CHECK IT OUT!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
And they’ll try to say it doesn’t exist right up until its their turn for the shake-n’-bake oven. Just like fools in Hitler’s Germany who refused to believe such monsterous things as Dachau couldn’t exist until they were forced by the allies to go in and help burry the dead.
Hyperspace Warrior Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 am
You are so right. FEMA cocentration camps are being constructed right under everybodies nose. Warning Light is correct. The Missouri screw up of last week proves that the ADL is programming the police to, through guilt by association, harass and arrest anyone who shows signs of patriotism or Christianity. In Arizona, the police are elimainating Christians from their force systematically. These camps, according to You Tube footage, have thick razor wire, gas towers, double decker trains with fake Amtrack stickers, watchtowers and, in one case, cement gas chambers. Americans better wake the hell up!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Why would the elite, at a time when they declare marshal law, want to burry people in concrete crypts. No No, the standard way these thugs work is to dig a hole, put the dead bodies in, and cover it up. No nice grave yard, no crypts, nothing…. you are just worm food.
Thus, I do believe that they are indeed expanding for our troops. But this is alarming as well. These poor people who are dying of DU need to go somewhare…
Put the Riot back in Patriot Reply:
April 1st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I think Shane is correct. If the NWO folks were really to execute a mass fatality incident such as a ” bird flu” type pandemic or maybe a fake terrorist nuclear attack they are not going to waste time and energy burying anyone. I don’t think you’ll even get a grave…just a heap of bodies and some kerosene to immolate the whole stack. ( let’s not forget that kerosene burns hot enough to melt 110 story skyscrapers ) LMFAO !!!!! I don’t know for certain what all of these grave liners are for. Maybe the Pentagon is getting ready to ramp up the war, I don’t know, but let’s not put the paranoia into overdrive. This sort of tendency by some to fire the gun before clearing leather is why people ridicule the freedom and 911 truth movement. Many years ago I worked in the funeral service industry, and what I do know for certain is that the National Cemetery in my state capitol is a non-stop burial factory: production line style burials 9 hours a day 6 days a week. On and on it goes, day after day, so I can see a legitimate reason for the VA cemeteries to stockpile grave liners.
ARM-RESIST Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 am
Your wrong, putting them in some kinda plastic or concrete vault is exactly what they would do in such a scenario. Putting rotting infected corpses in the dirt en mass would make entire areas unlivable for who knows how long due to the spreading of disease. They want to wipe us out, not make the land uninhabitable.
West of the Rockies Reply:
April 1st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Shane,
It’s “Martial Law”, not “Marshall Law”
“Martial” means “military”
ARM-RESIST Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 am
you cant do that these days, especially if the bodies are infected with some kind of virus, or contaminated with bio weapons. All that s--- would soak into the ground and spread disease, ever hear of a watershed? They aren’t going to just stick sickly, rotting bodies in the dirt. They have the resources to “properly” dispose of their victims..
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
OK – So there is intelligent life on this site.
Thank You …seems there are a bunch of paranoid – idiots on this site in the pass few months.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
The NWO order thugs are planning a depopulation and the late great U.S.A. is included in this.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
A few? 4000 in just one place alone? You call that a few? They are preparing for a lot of dead bodies ‘man’!
Xander Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Actually the number is around 7600, per the director of the cemetery.
Xander Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZoJsjHYEY
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
They are coming to get you first – hee hee – coming to take you away> the Boogie Man
April 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
MASS GRAVES MADE OF PLASTIC WITH NO HONOR AND FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR PATRIOTS, CHRISTIANS, DISSENTERS AND THE HOMELESS COMING SOON! FOOTAGE AND PHOTOS NOW AVAILABLE ON YOU TUBE. CHECK IT OUT!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:47 pm
A group that caters no ones fees or synthetic dieties
Is where I belong!!!!!
My stand is the human race
Without a label or a face
SO YOU CAN LICK MY SAC!!!!!!
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
YES – STUPID PEOPLE MUST NOT BREED
YOU PROVED IT!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I have personally seen the coffins near the area in which a rex 86 camp exists in cali right north of 29 palms
April 1st, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Please don’t feed the trolls. Please stay on topic.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Read the rules at the top. Post another off topic comment and you’ll be deleted.
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Interesting!
Can you delete more of the stupid people
April 1st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
the “ABC” rock under the crypts would be for drainage and relief of hydrostatic pressure. This is important because they are essentially burying boats. Ground water as it rises could make these things float away like boats.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I was in an IT hardware shop today and i found it refreshing to see that some are now awakening to what is going on out there and actually asked me if i had watched Alex’s new film………never missing a chance to chat about the real world i had the rest of them sucking their thumbs in the space of about ten minutes………well, i really do not see the point of being subtle about pointing out the obvious to those still in denial
April 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
The man’s name is Thom Hartmann and his show is called the Thom Hartmann show. There might be a guy out there named Thom Hart, and he might have a radio show, but the host on that clip was Thom Hartmann.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
MASS GRAVES WITH NO NAME OR HONOR AND FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR PATRIOTS, CHRISTIANS, DISSENTERS, AND THE HOMELESS COMING SOON! FOOTAGE AND PHOTOS NOW AVAILABLE ON YOU TUBE! CHECK IT OUT!
April 1st, 2009 at 9:31 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/.....index.html
Mainstream news
wokeuplastweek Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 am
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/.....index.html
I guess the staff at CNN wear tin-foil hats now.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I used to listen Thom Hartmann before I ever found Alex Jones, I think he’s a GREAT radio personality, and he was very fair to Alex from the small clip I heard here.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:03 pm
700,000 ? ? ? a year?
April 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
wonder how many bodies just one could hold
April 1st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I believe this guy would like to see me in a coffin if i dont’ enlist in the Wermacht.
April 1st, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Southern californias homless update reported by George there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK2LBTumItc plass on to Alex here
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 am
It’s kind of my fault for spreading that “rumor” too for submitting that shaky video, and making this issue get explosive. It’s funny, I had acquaintances telling me about this issue not knowing I was the one that made the video.
Thanks to Infowars for posting that up. I am working on another video right now, should be up next week, and might cause another internet sensation.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 am
it makes sence to dig now for thay have all your kids in the army now
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 am
MASS GRAVES WITH NO NAME AND FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR PATRIOTS, CHRISTIANS, DISSENTERS AND THE UNEMPLOYED HOMELESS COMING SOON! FOOTAGE AND PHOTOS NOW AVAILABLE ON YOU TUBE! CHECK IT OUT!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 am
visit “9/11 False Flag” @ http://www.nuoviso.com . New german documentary with highranking officials of military and politics. Must see!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel be afraid be very afraid
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 am
Brzezinski was my mentor, not any more. Please don’t go out on the streets…
Cynthia Mckinney Accepts Green Party Nomination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14HYcopWEU
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 am
I think the reason why so many vaults are being prepared is because Israel is going to attack Iran and as soon as that happens, Iran will wipe out the Green Zone in Iraq where most Americans stay!
Iran has vowed to attack Iraq in the first 11 minutes of ANY attack from Israel or the USA or both!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 am
It takes very little these days to convince the masses of lies. One report from CNN, the self made best political liars and actors on television, and people are fully convinced, and then use it as grounds to ridicule those who are much brighter then they are sounding like CNN themselves. Besides, who the hell want’s to bother reading, researching and learning for themselves. It’s okay to dedicate hours on end on facebook, but not one minute on reading something with meaning that can make a real differance to America and the world. Even while the masses will loose there jobs, forced to work for much cheaper wages, barely make ends meet, lower there standards of living and in worse cases go hungry, while the rich continue to bask in there gold, still people just won’t get it. It is what it is and most people are just plain and simply incapable of undersatnding the truth.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 am
I memorized this line from the “Project for a New American Century” by Paul Wolfowitz and Scooter Libby.
“And advanced forms of biological weapons the can target SPECIFIC GENOTYPES may transfrom biological warfare from a realm of terror to a POLITICAL USEFUL TOOL.”
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
“Veterans Administration critic”
Turns out to be not much of a VA Critic.
between2 Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO SERVE VETERANS?
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Now seriously, has anyone who ever attended a funeral for a veteran
seen the coffin lowered into a COMMON CRYPT?
I used to caretake a cemetery where a hundred or so veterans were
buried. All were in single graves.
Something about this latest “expansion” stinks to high heaven, and the
last person who we can expect to tell the truth is a “spokesman for
the gov’t”.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
funny, they only refer to 7,600 crypts, not 700,000, and from the looks of the video, that number might just imply the concrete vaults, which there are that alone in az. numbers are off, but when are they not. They always lose a few million of everything in the paper mess, or do they?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
we have a va clinic here and i always noticed the nice vehicles these employees drove then i’d look at the city bus stop right in front of the building and always thought to myself this is wrong.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Its Thom Hartman from Airamerica Radio. You guys were close. He did defend him there at the end. Thom is a good and smart man. Just doesn’t want to believe this one.
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
WOW – HAD TO STEAL THAT FROM GRAND AWAKENING
YOU’RE AN IDIOT
THEY WON;T EVEN WASTE THEIR TIME BURYING YOU…LEAVE YOU ON THE ROAD SIDE FOR VULTURES YOU RETARD
April 8th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
FANTASTIC!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I can tell that this is not the first time at all that you write about this topic. Why have you decided to write about it again?
April 13th, 2009 at 4:12 am
This is quite a hot information. I’ll share it on Twitter.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
I’ll share it on Twitter.