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Was Fort Hood Killer On Psychotropic Drugs?
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, November 6, 2009
Despite the fact that Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist, the media has failed to even raise the question of whether he was taking psychotropic drugs before he gunned down over a dozen of his colleagues during yesterday’s tragic rampage, a hefty indictment of how the establishment rushes to blame politics, religion, gun rights, or any other factor for mass shootings in order to hide the direct link between such massacres and the use of anti-depressant drugs.
It has been confirmed that Hasan was an Army psychiatrist at Fort Hood. Psychiatrists have a history of “self-medication” because of the easy access they have to psychotropic drugs.
In almost every major mass shooting over the past two decades, since anti-depressant drugs became popular, the killer has been on SSRI’s – serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
The establishment media, allied closely as it is with the pharmaceutical industry, uniformly fails to stress this common factor, preferring instead to blame shootings on gun rights or, as in the case of Hasan, political motives.
However, any fair study of mass shootings cannot justifiably come to any other conclusion but the fact that SSRI’s play a central role in causing assassin’s to go berserk and engage in the kind of carnage that the average person struggles to comprehend.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, as well as 15-year-old Kip Kinkel, the Oregon killer who gunned down his parents and classmates, were all on psychotropic drugs.
Robert Hawkins, the 19 year old who killed himself and eight other people with an assault rifle in Omaha, Nebraska in December 2007 had a history of treatment with psychiatric drugs for depression and ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) and was on prozac.
Jeff Weise, the Red Lake High School killer was on prozac, “Unabomber” Ted Kaczinski, Michael McDermott, John Hinckley, Jr., Byran Uyesugi, Mark David Chapman and Charles Carl Roberts IV, the Amish school killer, were all on SSRI psychotropic drugs.
Northern Illinois University killer Steven Kazmierczak had taken Prozac.
Since these deadly drugs are prevalent in almost all mass shooting incidents, where is the call to ban prozac? Why is the knee-jerk reaction always to attack the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans to self-defense? The fact that yesterday’s shooting occurred on an Army base is the only reason that the establishment media has been unable to blame the carnage on gun rights. Instead, they have exploited Hasan’s religion to stir up more hatred for Muslims in a crude attempt to reinvigorate flagging public support for the war on terror.
Scientific studies proving that prozac encourages suicidal tendencies are voluminous and span back nearly a decade.
In 2005, it was revealed that Eli Lilly had full knowledge of a 1200% increase in suicide risk for takers of their Prozac. This evidence came in the wake of findings published in the British Medical Journal a year previously.
In 2006 a report was published outlining the fact that anti-depressant drug Paxil doubles the risk of violent behavior. Another study published in the Archives of General Psychiatry revealed that teens taking antidepressant drugs are more likely to commit suicide.
It is a well known fact among the makers of these drugs that they are directly linked to behavioral disturbances including agitation, panic attacks and extreme aggression, yet their use is so commonplace that they have now even found their way into our drinking water.
The corporate media, owned as it is by the U.S. military-industrial complex, will continue to gratuitously and shamelessly exploit yesterday’s tragedy by characterizing Hasan’s religious and political beliefs as the main motivation behind the massacre, without even investigating whether or not he was taking psychotropic drugs and what role these played in why he suddenly snapped, a character trait completely at odds with how Hasan’s own family described his personality.
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November 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Either he was Manchurian candidate like Sirhan Sirhan, or he was picked from other victims to be blamed for shooting, while somebody else did the shooting.
No third option. He could not do it with two nadguns in army base.
Furry Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Actually, it is possible. Other solders didn’ have weapons readly avalable – that’s why
'ren Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
agreed,furry. if they WOULD have had them available, it would have been 2-3 wounded and 1 dead shooter.
kane Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
it could be Project Monarch mabe its still in use in ft hood we dont know
Kali Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Why can’t we see the real truth …here’s a guy who yells “allah” & starts the shooting? The FBI has been watching this guy for 6 MONTHS? The day of the shooting he’s handing out the koran?
Why can’t America do their job without running into political correctness?
BattleHardened Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
I know that the Army frowns of mental illness many people need help massive help but don’t get it because the Army culture. The only illness that they will treat is the Battle disorder I have heard of others that were denied benefits because the Army doesn’t except mental illness. Also these people like to screw with people if they know he doesn’t want to go they will force him to go.
mike Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:35 am
You tube won’t allow this comment that I posted!
Befor I believe any of the crap the media is spinning.
I want to see the cctv pictures, which I’m sure they have all over the base.
Lone gunman???? He took out 40 people!! Yeh right, he didn’t even like guns nor was he a proffesional soldier.
But this “home grown terrorist” took out a building full of battle hardend soldiers. PLS. Not possible.
Witch hunt. Remember the US Japanees citizans in the 2nd WW. Mass detention Centers.
Detroit Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
In answer to the title of this article;
No, the shooter wasnt on drugs, he was on ISLAMIC EXTREMISM
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
If a handgun has 15 rounds in a clip, he might had 30 rounds available, and shoting exelently with both hands can be seen only in movies.
In real situation, those shots would be somewhat eratic in multiple target environment, and having almost no misses, looks like another fairy tale.
Like 9/11.
Griz Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Or possibly a setup done with insertion of a highly trained operator? And then this guy is selected as patsy. Enough said?
'ren Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
i wouldn’t doubt that one either, griz. the military goes to GREAT LENGTHS to keep people from going “against the grain” and YES they DO harass the HELL out of troops that speak up.
Furry Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
It’s called “tactical realod” a trained one can do it in a bit.
Josh F. Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
agreed… something still seems very odd about the whole situation though. I don’t know what it is.. whether it is the fact that no one could get the correct story for the longest time, or that they confused whether or not the GUNMAN was DEAD?! Hm.. that just doesn’t make sense at all.
I dunno… the whole thing just smells to me.
Not saying this is some drastic plot to control the world by the NWO, I just think that there is MUCH more to this story then they are telling us. Such as, maybe he knew something about what the military was going to be doing that he just couldn’t take so he did the only thing he could think of. How do we know that he wasn’t trying to get away from the base and they were possibly trying to force him into something he did not want to do.
I mean, think about it. What do you think the News is going to say about us when we end up fighting back? The Media will call it violent drug dealers or something of that nature, but in reality, we’re just trying to survive…
Not making excuses, just saying… there’s a LOT of things that could be going on with this one.
2" Dick Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Confusing situations often lead to reporters making confusing reports and filling in the blanks when they don’t have answers. Many times they add to the malay and confusion by asking “questions” which turn into statement of fact. This is the fuel of disinformation agents and conspiracy theorists who seek to profit off of such circumstances who will promote such disinformation and propaganda in order to increase their profit margin. Of course the source story for this Alex Jones Profit piece traces back to Fox News who first put forth the question which is the subject of this article.
Crosshair25 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
@Josh F.
I agree with you, something about this don’t feel right, can’t put my finger on it, talked to some people, bounced some things around, still no answer, this is a bit strange and scary.
Mace Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Do they train them on psychotropic drugs?
Daniel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I am a soldier on Ft Hood and it happened only at least 3 blocks from where I work. The first reports that we got when they told all of us to go inside was that there was “automatic rifle fire” happening on Ft. Hood. There was never any mention of hand guns. It was obviously added to the news stories later but, every one was to believe this Hasan character had a automatic assault rifle.
Daniel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I got off post just before it was locked down. So, when I got home it hadn’t even hit the news yet but when it did, holy crap, every news channel said something different. However, at first the consistent story was that there were 3 involved and that the 1st shooter had been killed and one was “cornered” and the other at large but that story changed so many times it’s not even funny.
JonVon Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
just for the record his handgun had 20 round clips
Zaus Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
with militery round nose bullets which easly can go thru 2 or even 3 people in one close shot
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
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Tilly Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
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StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Could you please inform us on data from Israel?
What is swine flu situation in Israel?
What is swine flu situation in moslim countries?
2" Dick Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Cats are now coming down with h1n1 swine flu.
JonVon Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
a 2″ dick, sucks to be you
November 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Psychotrpoic drugs do not enhance eye-hand coordination.
On the contrary, some motoric functions are deteriorated.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
whilst we should always look for possible government involvement in these big incidents, some things do just actually happen without there being a big wide conspiracy behind them.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
If somebody could go to any lengths to create a pretext for a war, like it happened on 9/11 when over 3000 people were killed, and subsequently hundred of thousand people in Iraq and Afghanistan, this is nothing for them.
Or, you think that official report on 9/11 is true?
(I am using jewish holocaust tactics in debate)
LOL 
Mark Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
This may be a stupid question, but could it be possible that the Illumanti are using the Islamic religion in order to further their cause and to bring about their police state? I just find it hard to believe theories like these are muslim robots, or they were hypnotized to do it. Why is it so difficult to accept that Islam is the antithesis to Christianity and that muslims actually believe the Koran and that they get 72 raisins for killing infidels.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Islam is not anthitesis to Christianity, since Islam recognize Jesus as prophet.
It is just an interpretation of religion, because Islam was derived from jewish religion.
The idea is to “create” a common “enemy” which would create cohesion through american society by hate and fear, demanding “protection” from government and giving up civil liberties, like 2nd amandman.
Do you understand now?
Mark Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
No. Just because Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet doesn’t contradict what I’m saying. I’m telling you that Islam is the antithesis to Christianity because the pedophile prophet took the Jewish/Christian religion and many of the characters from the Bible and flip-flopped everything so that it becomes a contradiction with Christianity. Many of the bad guys in the Bible are the good guys in the Koran, and vice-versa. The Koran teaches that infidels must be killed and that Islam will take over the world. See the movie Fitna.
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
YOU ARE ALL NUTS AND SHOULD BE LOCKED UP
ARGUING OVER WHO’S VERSION OF FAIRY TALES IS MORE CORRECT.
Christopher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Islam is just more recycled astro-theology like Christianity.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Actually, shooting with one hand is much more accurate, at least when I shoot. I think he might be a plant so we have excuses to crack down on “protections against DOMESTIC terror”
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
And, you take those drugs and you don’t miss?
Damn! Train a hundred like that, and you will win war in Aghanistan in couple of weeks.
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I THINK HE WAS A POT PLANT.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I really don’t think you can blame “psychotropic drugs” on murdereous rampages… It seems more likely mental illness is the problem here. I mean, all these people were on these drugs because they were mentally ill, right? Doesn’t that make more sense? Millions of people are on SSRI’s; shouldn’t there be hundreds of these incidents every day in order to support this premise?
Bubba Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
A crime caused by ‘mental illness’ as opposed to those ’sane’ murders? You can argue any murder is caused by mental illness if you don’t want to deal with the reality of the situation. I’m suprised so many leftst loons on here wanting to blame everyone but the killer.
CyberMiguel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Psychotropics and anti-depresants ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. Different molecular structures, different target receptors and different actions. I know them for a fact ’cause I’ve been on antidepresant (sertraline or “altruline” as many people know it) and I haven’t been on psychotropics. Heck, I even had an exam about them (structures, targets, pharmacological activity and molecular mechanism) on the “Pharmacochemistry III” class last week so I know what I’m talking about (I study chemistry & pharmacy by the way).
What happened here is a disturbed guy shooting a bunch of other people. Period. Conspiracy? I don’t know. Anger? maybe…
You know, just for reference, YOU DON’T HAVE TO HANDLE A GUN TO MENTALLY DISTURBED PEOPLE, SPECIALLY THOSE ONE STARTING TREATMENT WITH SSRIs.
Do you know why? I’ll explain in simple terms so anyone can understand.
The Selective Serotonine Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI) such as fluoxetine, sertraline and such have a 2-week window. Yep, that’s right: the first two week of treatment things get worst than they where on therapy start and that’s because these medications change the way the neuron’s serotonine receptors behave and that takes that ammount of time. Only from week 3 of treatment the patient begin to feel better and continue his/her normal life.
This medications, BY NO MEANS MAKE YOU HAPPY. All they do is stabilize the serotonine so one can keep feeling emotions (you know, being depressed is not being sad all the time…is not feeling anything at all) and be active.
Now, a whole different story would be if this guy was under psychotropics, because THOSE make you change your behavoir in serious ways and can turn any normal guy into a paranoid psycopath…and I’m not joking.
Jafo Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Cyber Miguel:
I remember reading that when taking SSRI’s for an extended period (I dunno, maybe more than 3 weeks) if you suddenly stop taking them the risk of suicidal feelings, etc. actually INCREASES. Maybe it was on the enclosed fact sheets…
I’ve talked to several people that said that they didn’t like how the drugs made them “feel” (or not feel) and just stopped taking them. Then things got worse, at least for a while. Those folks told me they would NEVER take that stuff again.
I took Zyban several years ago to help me stop smoking. After several weeks (more than 3) I felt paranoid, couldn’t sleep, was snappish and mean to my loved ones, was just not myself. True, I didn’t care if others around me were smoking, but what was going on inside just wasn’t right, and I knew it! I had been told by my doctor, and it was in the drug fact sheet and all of the “quit smoking help packet” that I should not under any condition suddenly stop taking the drug, that I would have to be “weaned” from the drug, and that I’d have to go back to my doctor so he could “wean” me off. I just quit. I felt better pretty quick, but it did take some time to really feel like myself again. Here I was taking Zyban to quit smoking and wound up feeling depressed! Hmmm!
If you’re studing to be a pharmacist, perhaps you need to take into account the human factor–seems missing from the lessons you are describing. Yeah, that may be the chemistry and the actual physical science, but the human animal is so much more than receptors.
CyberMiguel Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Actually, what happens is true. What doctors don’t tell people (and people don’t ask anyway) is what happens if you cut the treatment.
When you’re under anti-depressants, the treatment has to be cut progressively. For example, if you’re taking one pill, you have to be a week with half a pill, then another week with a quarter of a pill and then you stop, so the brain can accomodate to the decreasing quantities of medication. It’s tedious, I know, but it’s the brain we’re talking about.
Volksjager Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 3:17 am
exactly, it is akin to saying “in 90% of fatal car crashes, said car was carrying a spare tire”
i do see anti depressants being a underlying factor though… with every action(or medicine) ther is an equal and opposite reaction
November 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
You are full of :
a) hot air
b) sh*t
c) hot air and sh*t
d) nothing
Please answer by selecting one of options offered.
Tom Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Do the research yourself and see what you find.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
That’s one nasty thought.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The writer makes a huge logical error in his argument. In first stating, “In almost every major mass shooting over the past two decades, since anti-depressant drugs became popular, the killer has been on SSRI’s” then jumping to, “However, any fair study of mass shootings cannot justifiably come to any other conclusion but the fact that SSRI’s play a central role in causing assassin’s to go berserk and engage in the kind of carnage that the average person struggles to comprehend”.
Correlation does not indicate a cause effect relationship, merely an indication that this might be a factor to study more closely. You would want to do a study with a much larger sample and run a regression on the correlation.
The phrase “In almost every major mass shooting…” also leads one to wonder what the words “almost” and “major” really mean. We could arbitrarily decide that a “major” shooting is one where more than two poeple are killed and then study x number of events to find that in y out of x of these events, the perp was on SSRIs. If we want y to be greater we can decrease the number of people killed requirement and still satisfy the requirements of the statement.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Haven’t you heard? Apparently logical fallacies and inability to extrapolate meaning from data is what ALL of the cool kids are doing these days! How dare you, George. How DARE you come here with your logic, critical thinking skills, and such. BURN WITCH, BUUUUUUUUURN!
Crito Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
If fallacies of false causation bother you so much how about objecting to those who say he must belong to a terrorist sleeper cell because he’s Muslim? I say it’s more likely he converted to Judaism and slammed a six pack of beer right before going on a murderous rampage. Certainly more violence has been committed after consuming alcohol than any other substance, and I can provide a truck load of empirical data to back that up too.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
So in order for me to be bothered by logical fallacies, I have to object to the supposition that he must belong to a terrorist sleeper cell because he’s muslim? Nice try, son. Your line of thought lends its support to my claim. I may or may not object to anyone’s claims regarding his occupation or motivation. Yet, this has no bearing on whether or not logical fallacies bother me. Logical fallacies are just that: logical fallacies. And you just tripped over your own.
Crito Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
I never said you had to object to anything. I merely find it curious that you felt compelled to object when pill popping and psychiatry were involved but felt no such compulsion when the same applied to race and religion. That speaks volumes as to your motive here.
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:00 am
“That speaks volumes as to your motive here.”
No, it doesn’t. The above article focuses on psychpharmaceuticals, including anti-depressants (specifically SSRIs). That is why I chose to focus my responses within that framework. Are you dense? The title of the article is “Was Fort Hood Killer On Psychotropics?” IT’S WHAT THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT! Show me an article that devotes its focus towards the racial and religious dynamics involved in the shooting, and I will comment on THAT page. Crito, I’ve seen first-hand what SSRIs and many other psychopharms can and have done to people. I am well aware of the racket that is BigPharm/HealthCare. They need to be attacked, but even more, they need to be attacked thoughtfully, critically, and effectively. Wake up, son.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Where have you been Princess? We missed you!!
Oh, and just so you know, Truthers actually do support our troops. We want them to all come home and stop fighting a war on “Terrorists”. Just wanted to clear that up.
ASimpleEquation Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
EXACTLY, Tcc! It’s just like I said in my article 2 days ago!
http://www.infowars.com/conser.....e-big-lie/
stevejax Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Truthers are the biggest supporter of the troops IMO…
We want them to come back to their loved ones!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Irresponsible journalism at its worst. What’s with baseless speculation? Because he’s a psychiatrist, we’re supposed to suspect he may be on drugs?
This is dumb journalism.
JonVon Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
connect the dots, then choke on your burger
Zionist Mafia Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
New and disturbing revelations about the shooter have just surfaced. According to neighbors who had little contact with him prior to these events, the day before the shooting he was passing out copies of the Torah and proclaiming that Jews were superior to gentiles. Another source at Fort Hood who barely knew him says that as the shooting occurred he could be heard yelling “die Goyim die” repeatedly.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
To: WowIjustshotaloadofCum Says:
I think you’re just one reason why human extinction is a strong probability.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Human extinction is inevitible………..prolly.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I thought that those blue “needles” are used in medical purposes.
I am reffering to Co-60 isotope often used in oncology.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
i heard on the news that the shooter is an Iranian agent
Married to 1/3 Native American Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
News agencies are spinning the story around! It’s hard to figure out truthful facts. Some suggest that he a Middle East accent, but was born and raised in Virginia.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I disagree Alex, this is not an inside job.
I’m surprised that troops going postal doesn’t happen more often.
google: GOA Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Alex, you should invite the female officer who shot this nut onto the show.
KiD HHOKH'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Does it matter if he was on drugs. He killed future killers so he must pay.
Marc Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
How do we stop obamas tiny nipples? obamasnips.com
the gambler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I heard Ft. Hood has had 70 suicides recently. Does anyone have info to back this up? Where can it be found?
Something is really wrong with the training, or with what our soldiers are being asked to do, when so many are killing themselves. Could be that they are all drugged up too!
Dusty Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:03 am
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On this website you’ll find easy step-by-step instructions
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on each DVD copy with a fine-point marker.
If everyone reading this makes 3 free copies for their own town,
this joint effort would make a huge difference.
-Dusty
marine bulldog Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
In an answer to who is right, and what happened at Ft. Hood. I have friends who were actually there. The man in question was going to be deployed overseas again. He had been prescibed other drugs (what they be is another question). So each one who reads this can determine what made him do this.
Rock Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Good point. But you know that does happen. The suicide rate of our returning soldiers from the Middle East has exploded. Sometimes they take out their whole families in the process. And if you look at the statistics most of those soldiers were probably on psychotropic drugs that were perscribed to them by mental health professionals.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
You should find some female companion and leave that gun is drawer.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Columbine shooters were both on them heavily. Virginia Tech shoooter also on them heavily. Seems like a valid argument.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I don’t think we should hide from the truth. This shooting brings up a lot of hidden feelings about our troops getting disorientated with the war in the Middle East. That is the problem.
Why are we there? It is not for the American people. We do not want to be there.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Holy shuttlecocks, Batman. Here we go. I quote from this article:
“In almost every major mass shooting over the past two decades, since anti-depressant drugs became popular, the killer has been on SSRI’s – serotonin reuptake inhibitors.”
The first person who can tell me why this does NOT signify a direct link between SSRIs and “mass shootings”, “mass murders”, or “rampages” will receive a hot steak dinner on my dime. The first person to verbalize the functional difference between a cause-and-effect relationship and a correlation will get a trophy. In fact, the first person to explain exactly why SSRI use and “mass murders” or “mass murders” are NOT correlated will win a steak dinner AND a trophy.
“However, any fair study of mass shootings cannot justifiably come to any other conclusion but the fact that SSRI’s play a central role in causing assassin’s to go berserk and engage in the kind of carnage that the average person struggles to comprehend.”
There is no evidence to suggest that SSRIs play a central role in causing anyone to “go beserk” or “engage in carnage”. There is this: A strong, positive relationship between killin’ and happy pill poppin’ in the distinct population mentioned (almost every major mass shooter in the past decade, according to the article). The writer’s statistical ignorance aside, is there really only one conclusion to draw from any fair study of mass shootings? Is anti-depressant use the only commonality to be found across all of these cases? I think not.
But ultimately, it is this simple. Let us assume that there is a strong, positive relationship between SSRI use and ‘mass shootings’, ‘mass killings’, or rampages. Now I will ask you the following questions: How many ‘mass killings’, such as the events mentioned in this article, have been executed (NO PUN!) in the past two decades in the United States of America? And how many people have consumed a clinically significant dose/course of SSRIs? Answer these two questions. In these answers, you will find the correct answer regarding why, in fact, there is no strong link between SSRI use and polyhomicide.
Do I refute the idea that SSRI use may have played a role in the limited population that is ‘mass murderers’? No. The lesson here is this: Arm yourself with objective, critical thought. Practice it and hone it. Make it habit. Learn to use statistics intelligently. This is how responsible, intelligent adults operate (or SHOULD operate). We have a good fight to fight, folks. How can you expect to fight it if you cannot speak, write or argue with any semblance of critical thinking skills or statistical concept? You should expect better from yourselves, and you should demand better from writers who associate themselves in any manner with Infowars, PrisonPlanter, or any other like-minded endeavors.
Zionist Mafia Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
There’s no evidence to suggest al-Qaeda (formerly known as The Mujaheddin freedom fighters) had anything to do with 9-11. There’s no evidence to suggest Saddam had anything to do with 9-11 either. There’s plenty of evidence that suggests Zionists benefited from both 9-11 and the war with Iraq though.
What was your point again? Must have been some trivial straw man argument about logic.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
What was my point? You missed it because you’re too busy invoking worn-out old-news al-qaeda/9-11/saddam/iraq/zionist s--- that everyone already knows. Your anemic example, while very real and true, has no application whatsoever to the BigPharm/Psychopharm/Mass Killing dynamic examined in the article. Your poor attempt to apply a dead-hourse dynamic in order to conflict my support for honest, objective critical thought lends support to my original post. Stop. Step back, and take a deep breath. Again, we have work to do. Serious work. But before you are ready to do anything more than repeat old news, you need to learn to think effectively. Christ, man, you should hold yourself to a higher standard. You should also hold others to a higher standard. If not, then go back to the “kiddie” table while the adults talk at the big-person table.
wesley Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
i get the impression “way”, that anyone who disagrees with u after seeing or reviewing a certain stat or article is irresponsible or/and unintelligent. u remind of this dude i once knew who tried to come off as more intelligent than everyone else in the discussion but when confronted with a question he could not answer, said the Q. wasn’t relevant. belittling is the oldest form of hiding ones own shortcomings. so yea, get some pussy, u need some. even if u gotta pay for it.
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 3:49 am
If that is the impression you choose to get, so be it. I hold no illusions as to my own intelligence in comparison to yours or anyone else’s. Truth be told, it doesn’t even matter. And at what point was I confronted with a question? That’s right, I wasn’t. You accuse me of “belittling”. Why? Because I spoke harshly? Abrasively? I choose to write and speak what is on my mind, and it’s not always going to come out in the shape of rainbows, flowers and warm fuzzies. Do I have shortcomings? Yes, as do we all. I quit trying to hide my shortcomings years and years ago. Instead, I try to fix them. Look, Wes: When I see an example of a journalist behaving in a manner that will, ultimately, only serve to degrade his real purpose, I’m going to call it out. You decry my coming off as “more intelligent than everyone else”, and then you end your response with “so yea, get some pussy, u need some. even if u gotta pay for it.” That, Wesley, is truly intelligent. And you wonder why I come off the way I do? Perhaps you should join the kiddie table as well.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
After being prescribed a common anti-depressant for INFLAMMATION by my primary doctor…the very first thing I thought of was “medication.”
the docs give these pills for anything. From sleep disorders, inflammation, ADD, over active bladder to severely impaired. From first hand experience I can tell you these drugs are far worse than anything on the street. It even changed my taste…actual tasting of food. The food tasted like cardboard. these drugs are very dangerous. I have complete lapses in memory, I was becoming depressed, physically ill and wondered why I was even alive.
The media, big pharma and the FDA are all a big old country club.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“The media, big pharma and the FDA are all a big old country club.”
This!
November 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Dutch? Dude, you guys make great ovens.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
It’s not a conspiracy. The shooter broke down mentally and snapped:
1.) Had to listen to horrible war stories on a daily basis as an army physiatrist
2.) He didn’t want to be deployed to the horrible war
3.) His fellow soldiers harassed him because of his religion and race, calling him “raghead”, etc.
4.) He was heavily medicated to treat depression according to his family members.
All of these factors contributed to the terrible killing spree.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Maybe the ‘oven’ comment was in bad taste.
Oh, and I, The Way, solemnly swear that I have never given myself, any other person, or any monkey a Dutch Oven.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
The Devil made him do it! Let’s blame it on a new pre-traumatic stress syndrome condition. Or maybe he walked in on his parents having sex when he was a kid? Let’s dream up every conceivable excuse for him rather than think the politically incorrect notion, that he was just a pissed off Muslim who took his anger out over the war on troops. No! That couldn’t possibly be the reason. Society is to blame, or namely, ALL OF US did it somehow.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
pm
“The federal Bureau of Labor Statistics said 517 people were the victims of homicide in U.S. workplaces last year, 413 by gunshot.”
By Alex Johnson of msnbc.com with Catherine Corrigan, Daniel Linden, Jesse Rodriguez and Dax Tejera of NBC News.. NBC station WESH-TV of Orlando contributed to this report
Mass shootings in two days, bringing to forefront will help to take away your guns because of the above, “413 by GUNshot”.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
“hide the child” meme: UFO balloon boy (colorado?) and the lady in Florida.
“random shooter” meme: ft. hood and florida
intersection: upcoming mass-kidnapping in new mexico?
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Either that, or accidental explosion at a tire factory in Utah. The thing is, I don’t think there are any tire factories in Utah. So what I just said doesn’t make sense. Just like what you just typed.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
See how I created obama and his kind. You’ll laugh so hard, you will cry!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggR0_pRWu8
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dude, you’re not really Lucifer.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
In what nation do you currently reside in?
Bubba Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
My guess is the UK. The effeminate name and pacifist wimpism is a dead ringer for that genetically mutated eurotrash.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Actually, people with your mentality DID this. You liberal loons did it by encouraging and manipulating these suicidal people into believing SOCIETY is responsible for all their problems. Once upon a time this same type of person would have sucked on barrel of a shotgun and Darwinized himself in private. Now they are psychologically manipulated into becoming raving psychotics hell bent on taking out as many lives as possible. They do it because the liberal media makes celebrities out of them. They do it because they are selfish pieces of s---. They do it to become martyrs to liberalism, and you’re type of thinking. So you loons can blame the Devil, Bush, the War, and inanimate objects like guns.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Why is this important? One man gets nuts and shoots around and it is immediately supposed conspiracy. There more important things in the world as this crap. For me it seems that Alex only tries to get some sensation around like all other media.
joe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
It’s important because it happened in a freaking US military base where 12 (13?) Americans where killed, and that a guy with 2 handguns injured/killed 40+ people ALL BY HIMSELF, although there were originally 2 other suspects, which nothing has been said about.
ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Why is it important that it happened on military base? There are plenty of weapons available and many morons that are trained to used them and have done and they get nuts form time to time. That something supposedly is not being reported doesn’t makes it an important conspiracy or something of so big importance for me. Every shooting is here explained as some government conspiracy without any credible evidence. It is always stated on air that there is evidence and documents. Why are the articles not linked with this evidence so that everybody can join the dots for himself.
AJ Minion Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
There was more than one shooter. I guess that is kinda going on the wayside. One guy didn’t do all of that. Why are they lying about it should be part of the discussion. This is what they want(it reduced to a lone gunman).
ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Why there should be more then one shooter? There were other shootings where civilians have killed same number of people when not more alone and here we have trained soldier. Why could this trained soldier not be able to kill so many people alone?
November 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
TO ALL THE DUMBASSES WHO SAY “DUHHH IT WAS ON AN ARMY BASE HOW COULD HE DO IT”
Let’s go over some key FACTS here you retards:
1. Not everyone on an army base carries weapons. Only front gate guards have loaded weapons.
2. Police officers and other personnel can carry but they are NOT allowed to have loaded weapons
3. THIS IS THE BIG ONE RETARDS: He shot up a MEDICAL FACILITY where soldiers were lining up to get shots.
f--- all you “He couldn’t do it!” idiots. f---ing retards make me sick.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I am quite familiar with the pre/post deployment readiness processing process. In deed, I could walk into any permanent or temporary readiness processing center, armed with a slingshot and a sandwedge, and kill at least 7 people (and injure untold hundreds) before someone garnered the ballzak to take me down with teh clipboard of doom.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
TO ALL THE DUMBASSES WHO SAY “DUHHH IT WAS ON AN ARMY BASE HOW COULD HE DO IT”
Let’s go over some key FACTS here you retards:
1. Not everyone on an army base carries weapons. Only front gate guards have loaded weapons.
2. Police officers and other personnel can carry but they are NOT allowed to have loaded weapons
3. THIS IS THE BIG ONE RETARDS: He shot up a MEDICAL FACILITY where soldiers were lining up to get shots.
f--- all you “He couldn’t do it!” idiots. f---ing retards make me sick.
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November 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
the attack was a terror incident. hasan was in contact with several terror cells both within and outside the united states. feds have placed clampdown on all info found on his computer. quit trying to find a reason other than this was a dedicated follower of the satanic religion, islam. the video showing him wearing his matyr costume several hours before the attack is prove. a muslim only gives away his belongings when he is prepared for a act of jihad. that is the system they operate under. my advice to those who work closely with muslims is watch your back. these kinds of attacks often come in multiples as other are also inspired go to jihadi. to all you who voted for obama, congragulations, your self hatred got 12 brave americans killed. just wait until millions more of these scumbags immigrate to this country. maybe you should study the crimerate in europe to see just how peaceful this false religion really is.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
This is probably a case of someone going nuts. Having marketed similar drugs and known psychiatrists, doctors etc. privately as well as through work this was my first thought; self prescribed. He would have been quickly killed otherwise
November 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
To all you commenters who use such bad language I think your comments are not worth reading. Things do happen in the real world that are not conspiracy and people do go under terrible stres
November 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Oh please help me I have a chip in my butt! That was awesome stuff man!
November 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
was Alex Jones on psychotropic drugs?
ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Then ted comes and tries to sell some precious metals and alex rants around how sick he is of everything to exploit fear he has spread to raise some cash. That is really cool.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Ask your pusher if SSRI”s are right for you;)
November 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
The gunman’s condition came as a surprise after military officials first reported that he was among the dead following a quick response by military police at the massive US military base. A further 31 people were wounded in his shooting spree.
Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, a military psychiatrist, was believed to be unhappy about recent orders to serve in Iraq.
Bubba Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
What came as a suprise to myself and many others was how quickly the Obama administration determined it wasn’t terrorism related. Nevermind the amount of press conference a mass killing like this generated, or how the POTUS commented on it, or how the killer was muslim and against the war…NO, this was just a run-of-the-mill incident that had nothing to do with the middle east situation.
It WAS just a case of a poor sick individual who was led astray by the evil pharmaceutical companies, and a few bullies who hurt his feelings. HE WAS A VICTIM AND DESERVING OF OUR SYMPATHY! SO don’t point fingers of blame, and don’t you DARE accuse Obama for the fact that an act of terrorism happened under his watch. THAT CERTAINLY DIDN’T HAPPEN!!!! We were reassured that wasn’t the case even before they knew how many shooters were involved. LOL
GEEZUS… I think Alex Jones is onto something about the population being rendered mentally and emotionally handicapped with these mercury contaiminated vaccines.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
This article definitely has its roots in scientific fact. if a person on these drugs decides to stop taking them, the results are disastrous and usually end in suicide attempts. the mind becomes dependent on them to feel ‘normal’ and plummets into near-insanity without them. These drugs are not a ‘cure’, as the patient is never really intended to go off of them.
ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
What scientific fact? Only because man was psychiatrist makes him to junky and psycho? Only medicaments make people to psychos, could it be other way around that people were psychos in the first place and their psychotic behavior is connected with their illness. I don’t know but naturally authors here know everything. Very suspicious for me.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
You are an idiot…
November 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
you americans tease and bug these poor muslim psch doctors till you drive them insane sham on you america its not all muslims fault you were attacked by muslims working for the bilderberg controlled al-c-i-a-da as you alex would like us to believe for your money making advertisements that keep people giver alex money all you do is talk little bit to keep them excited on your radio show then you screw over the sheep selling them scams products which you get cut of the people that hearing advertisements on your show or site sham on you alex jones don’t do do drugs like paranoia purveyor alex.p.s i am a norwegian muslim myself and i disagree with america’s terror that is grown by the seeds of yur own government no matter which people is in power is all run by slimbags
November 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Get your facts straight stupid — The VA. Tech killer WASN’T taking medication and maybe THAT was the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
You bet he was drugs! See the video’s at http://www.cchr.org
November 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
As expected, the word “Muslim” is mention multiple times in every mainstream news broadcast about the guy. At least sometimes they mention that he had to listen to other peoples’ mental health problems all day, and about horrific things. Then on top of it they were on the verge of sending him there. Any of these things could have been to blame, although if he was on drugs then that would probably be the main factor in “why.”
And by the way, in response to “richard face” (whatever that means) the VA Tech guy had been prescribed anti-depressants in the past and was assumed to be on them at the time. One of his old roommates said that he witnessed the guy taking them.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Rothschild says…..Excellllllennnt…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9_cDdLsms
November 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Any one out there in America please tell us if there are any repercusions on the Muslim community. justice will prevail, hopefully.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Rothschild says….RELAX the check is in the mail….???
November 6th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Rothschild says….MOST Excellllennnnt….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
November 6th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
hEY 322 sorry sir i dont want to vother you. wpuld answer please. are there reppercussions.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Mr 322 or anyone else out there would you answer please. how is the islamic community. are they okay? i am worried about any extreme consequences to this ugly event
November 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Yes, my friend tried to off himself back in 1989 after taking Prozac for a couple of months. The drug had not been out for too long, but it made him psych out. He tried to monoxide himself in his garage. He ended up in a locked unit of a mental institution. All because his Prozac dose was raised in the early summer of 1989.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Hey tempestous how is every thing in america. is it calm after the storm i hope so god bless
November 6th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Some people are very worried at the terrible events there
November 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Liar. Hell has a place for liars.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
MAYBE THE TARDS WHO WRITE THESE ARTICLES SHOULD THINK OF IT THIS WAY THEY WERE ON DRUGS FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL f---ING MENTAL.
OH LOOK PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS HAVE A HABBIT OF RANDOM KILLING SPREES, I KNOW IT CANT BE THE FACT THEY WERE f---ING MENTAL IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO!!!!
IT WAS THE DRUGS THEY WERE TAKING THAT MADE THEM DO IT!!!!!
WHY WERE THEY TAKING THESE DRUGS?, FOR NO REASON??, THEY WERE PERFECTLY SANE INDIVIDUALS????
NO!!!!!!
THEY WERE TAKING THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL f---ING MENTAL IN THE HEAD!!!!!
retards.
Kurt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Once again – so called logic with no data for your side – sad. Define mental. Explain WHY these people NEED to be on drugs. Give me examples of killing sprees before these drugs were invented. But oh no, nothing! Just spouting typical B.S. with NO DATA!!!!!!!!! At least the people who are claiming the drugs certainly have something to do with it have a STRONG CORRELATION!
Bubba Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Try common fking sense, you naive simple minded moron. Individuals prescribed anti-psychotic medication are mentally unstable! How fking hard is that to understand?
Regardless, I’ve seen individuals go through PCP Rage first hand, while beligerant, they didn’t transform into murderers. How about we stop blaming everyone and everything BUT the actual responsible party? That is loony leftist logic at it’s finest. The guy was a MUSLIM upset at Obama for failing to deliver on his campaign promises about pulling troops. He simply WENT POSTAL. This was an act of TERRORISM committed by a PISSED OFF Muslim. BTW, how do Osama and all those PISSED OFF Muslims living in caves get their psychotropic drugs? Apparently there is no such thing as a dark side of humanity, things like the Ft Hood killings don’t take place outside of external influences because humans by nature are such compassionate and loving creatures. Sounds like typical idealistic and insanely unrealistic liberal utopia thinking.
I thought this was a independent thinking, conservative based forum? You goons have jumped on the PC cult media’s explaination of overlooking the obvious – that it was a terrorist attack from another angry muslim – and focused on blaming it on your various prejudices.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Rothschild says ….Don’t look at this…??? http://www.youtube.com/user/po.....dQ8ctWqxYU
November 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Hey infowars, thanks for turning me on to CCHR! I’m going to watch all the videos on youtube and pass them on. Really well done!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
The Birka wearing whore who s--- this muslim f--- out of her ass should
have her pussy ripped out.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
King of PSYOPS, we love our troops unlike you pinheads who obey unconstitutional orders to carry out your bs, have fun in hell.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Big pharma is well protected. You will never know even if he was
whacked out on Prozac.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Mental Midget!^^
November 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
300 people, sitting in cubicles. What the hell do you think they were doing? I’ll tell you…they were
f---ing spying on us! 300 people, in the army, sitting at desks….? Shouldn’t they be on the range
shooting targets? You know, to kill the “alledged” terrorist! Tsk,Tsk,Uhmph!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Rothschild says….Excelllent Excelllennnt,,, Prince mens rea nux vomica your check is on the way…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Well, say something! Any of you.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
about you #@$%*er.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
This Paul Joseph Watson is really an ASS HOLE .
Where are you going with this ?
Thats like saying most mass murderers drive foreign cars . . . so does that mean we BAN foreign cars ?
I D I O T Watson .
Jeffersonian Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Hang: I agree with you !! Anti-depressants don’t really caused this. I think Paul Joseph Watson is not very scientific some times in his writtings. This article is written from his own personal perspective not based on evidence.
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November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I’ve seen more balls at a basketball game….what a f---ING let down…..you spineless jellyfishes!
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Jellyfish, slave, jellyfish.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
From what I read on the topic, it clearly stated, HE did NOT want to go and murder Humans… so.. who knows what drove him over the edge.. poor chap… listening to all the poor kids who have mental trauma now for life.. since their own loss in the war when they were shipped overseas is not likely a small thing to have to listen to daily… Did anyone ever consider, the poor Chap may have suffered his own Mental Breakdown????? He is only Human after all… poor guy, until you know his own feelings one should never judge… no one knows anothers plight until they have walked a mile in their shoes…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Hello Mrs. Malkin.
slavetothewage Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
If you are speaking to me,….allow me to retort;…….GO TO HELL!
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:14 am
slavetothewage is now my favorite person
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
On the other hand, perhaps he was an undercover CIA agent, working for some hidden agenda.. say Mandatory Vaccinations…??? No one knows until he speaks.. if he is still alive and cognitive state to do so… suspicious to me, since they so want all of North America now.. everyone is a suspect to this NWO conspiracy….
how did Hitler win over a whole country? Mind control.. plain and simple folks…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Go to FAUX, then go to MSNBC,then to CNN,….(at this point I’m dropping GD’s, and the such).
These…f---ers(MSM)have so busted their own balls to get the”breaking-story”, that, they forgot
the “public,serfs,plebs…” whatever they call “us”, are not so blind as to not see through this
“Creamy Malaise” of their deceit,lies,Tom-Foolery, and thievery. That we shall not expose them in their enormity,and take-back…{I said}TAKE-BACK! The Law Of The Land!
Our, Right to Live!
I Love You All,
Fight The Good Fight!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am
i remember watching cnn before the Iraqi war and i remember watching the troops with the bully attitude they all had…..lets go kick some ass some of said.
i think that something triggered this shooting in the base and the only thing i can come up with is the soldiers attitude against this muslim doctor.
i have no doubt in my mind that he felt down and unwanted .
knowing how racist the majority of the soldiers are in the US army makes me think of how lonely this doctor felt .
i have no doubt in my mind that he was being verbaly abused and the only choice he had at the time is to teach all of them a lesson.
i only blame him for joining the racist US army he should have known better.
in america you are only american when the white race really needs you but when your not in need you are a second or a third class citizen.
i dont like what this guy did but i have no idea how he felt at the time .
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:12 am
“i dont like what this guy did but i have no idea how he felt at the time .”
Your last statement is interesting. You admit that you have NO IDEA how he felt at the time. But previous to this statement, you claimed to have “no doubt in my mind that he felt down and unwanted”, and you admit to thinking “of how lonely this doctor felt.” Which is it, Jeffersonian? Make up your mind.
You mention the “bully attitude they all had…” in reference the troops. That is a lazy generalization if I have ever heard one. It is an insidious generalization in the same way that it would be a generalization a soldier were to say “There are some muslim terrorists in the world, and since Dr. Hasan was muslim, he is a rotten, murderous, hateful terrorist.” Any person to make such an inane, weak inference is…well, weak. You are making that error. You have no doubt that “the only choice he had at the time is to teach all of them a lesson.”
Was that really his only choice? Could he not have also chosen to kill himself instead? Or how about killing nobody, not even himself? Those also seem like choices. The idea that our feelings somehow excuse our actions, or somehow preclude the idea of multiple choices is a weak idea. Jefferson would roll in his grave at your use of his name as your handle.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Jew Tricks Alert:
The jews continue to attempt to turn public opinion against Arabs/ Muslim/Islam. Jews desperately need the U.S. military to fight jew fomented wars in the M.E. and this is just another sick-psychotic attempt (JEW TRICK) to deride and lambast Arabs.
Do not, under any circumstances, fight in any more jew wars (jew wars = Iraq, Afghanistan and upcoming Iran).
Please wake up, and soon. Millions of innocent lives hang in the balance in the M.E. and worldwide.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am
I have taken different anti depressants in the past and they can give you major ups and downs and rage with pressure he could pop theirs, allot of pressure when in the service. They probley lied to cover up a F-ck up. That’s what they normally do. Theirs always allot of violence on and near army bases. To be honest some of the scum of the earth go in. Anything could have happened they could have been sleeping with his girl friend this is very common.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:10 am
The TRUTH about 9/11 is that Islamic terrorists hijacked real planes with innocent people (now dead as well) and crashed them into buildings killing even more innocents. If there were insiders from the American government involved, they were very few and very powerful. If there were explosive devices in the buildings, the only purpose they served was to make sure the job was done and successfully implicate the American government as a whole in the process and smear the Jewish people (note: the elite families my call themselves Jews but they are the synagogue of Satan). Those same entities worked with known Muslim terrorist organizations who have killed many other innocents throughout the world and they support the existing infiltration by them into both the American and British government.
Read the new book that C.A.I.R.E. and the O.I.C. don’t want you to see entitled “MUSLIM MAFIA”. This is an in-depth expose behind what’s really going on in Washinton at the moment. The TRUTH is that grass-roots Islam has a huge role to play in the New World Order along with the elites and bankers. Don’t forget that the secret societies have two faces as well. The MASONS and highly Arabic influenced SHRINERS. Not only did it give the powers that be the excuse to take away more rights and freedoms, but the war on terror served to take out one of the two opposing Islamic sects that have been fighting for a long time and quell the rage of the American people. Tell the whole truth. Not a selective version of it.
Jeffersonian Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
how do u know that they were muslim? According to David Ray Griffin one of the best scientists writters about 9-11. Some of the alledge highjackers are alive. How can one of the 19 so called “muslim terrorists” be alive today? Did they jump out of the 4 planes before their planes crashed on 9-11? I mean something doesn’t compute.
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Obama’s Response to Fort Hood
Shooting Under Scrutiny http://www.33energy.com/obama-.....oting.html
November 7th, 2009 at 7:47 am
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Thank you so much for listening,
RussellWooldridge
November 7th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Hello My name is Russell Wooldridge. My wife and I and our 3 kids left the United states 3 years ago when we found that it was just a huge scam of debt. We liquidated all assets it the states then left and have not turned back. There is a rule of thumb we go by, and thats get your assets out then get your ass out. Now we have set up a website to help people escape the states. Home We are basicly running an underground railraod. Although we do profit from time to time with this business, we do it more just to help people and make some great friends. The facts are as follows, the US is in more debt then they can ever come out of and the elites never loose, this means someone must loose and that someone would be the commons(the population). Its just like this, the titanic has hit the ice burg of corruption and is sinking fast and not many people are getting on the lifeboats, they are instead waiting for the ship to resurface. We moved to Margarita Island Venezuela, we are more free here, there are no hurricanes, no taxes, 4 cent a gallon for gas, free healthcare, all produce is organic by law. The island sits in the caribbean right between aruba and trinidad. It is safe for foreigners and has more infastructure then any other caribbean island. So we specialize in relocation to the one place we know Margarita Island. We would love to here some other stories of where others have choosen to go and why, and if they like it. We would like to maybe join forces with others who have choosen different spots to live and possibly create a grid of different escape routes.If you need help escaping please contact us, http://www.escapethestates.com
Thank you so much for listening,
RussellWooldridge
November 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Maybe so but he was calling for all muslims to rise up. Come on Alex, this guy was a radical. No doubt about it.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
all of the people who blog here are already on the watchlist of this one world government. Jesus Luk 12:4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
Luk 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:47 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Yesterday we had a movie playing by Boris Karloff.. called THE SORCERERS , all involved mind control and death i believe this is the world we are living in and we need to be all watching and praying as the end of the world nears…
November 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WARNED US CITIZENS ABOUT THE EVIL JEWS !!
http://www.libreopinion.com/me.....ion09.html
As the American colonies rose in revolt against political oppression occasioned by the attempt of Jewish banking houses in Europe to consolidate their economic foothold in the New World, no man among the Founding Fathers was more alert to the designs of international Jewry than that shrewd elder statesman of the American Revolution, Benjamin Franklin. Perhaps Ben Franklin’s most damning indictment of Jewry was contained in his famous prophecy at the Constitutional Convention of 1787 in Philadelphia. In one of the most anti-Jewish utterances of all time, he declared:
“I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation was founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. For over 1700 hundred years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But, gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only amongst themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race. If you do not exclude them from these United States in the Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.”
Franklin’s remarks were recorded in “Chit Chat Around the Table During Intermissions,” a section of the Diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina. Pinckney (1746-1825) attended the Convention as a delegate, and took down excerpts of some of the outstanding addresses and discourses, which he later published in his diary. Perhaps the best proof of the Franklin prophecy—as with any prophecy—lies in its actual fulfillment. What Benjamin Franklin foresaw as an ominous possibility in 1787 has today—a little over two hundred years later—become painful reality.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Here is a link to some of the latino ladies that have been raped in military.
http://www.aztlan.net/latinas_....._raped.htm
This is disgusting. But what is equally disgusting is the purposeful absence of white victims which are just as offensive and just as prevalent.
HERE is one paragraph of this article:
“The USA military has pillaged and raped the American Indians and the Mexicans in the southwest in the same way they are now doing to the Iraqis. Even today, naive Latinas who join the US Armed Forces are being brutalized and raped by racist Jews and white military personnel. They are being recruited for the exclusive enjoyment of depraved US Jewish and white military personnel. If they are doing this within the US military ranks, what can Iraqi men and women expect in their own occupied land? The brutalization of people of color by white military armed forces is a historical fact.”
It is just as racist what these people at Aztlan do, WHEN FACTS and statistics will show that in regards to rape it is WHITE women who are most common victims, and not only by white males but by other races.
The lists of whites murdered and raped by Mexicans is vast and long.
Very sad that people in these threads are using this horrible crime in Fort Hood as a means to justify their own hate.
…Just like CNN and other news outlets are pushing the muslim card at every turn, which makes no sense. The guy obviously had a complete breakdown, he is an American. His religion does not matter nor does his ethnicity. What matters is the violence that perpetuates itself within the insane social structures regarding wars.
During WWII the main perpetrators AND victims were white. White against white.
The middle east invasions have NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the people being brown. It has to do with POWER and the insatiable need by central banking families to keep expanding and their need for the resources to provide the means…and Middle East is loaded full of those resources.
Please, folks, don’t fall for these race cards being played to get everyone divided. This has been predicted as the main means to keep the people distracted from the real causes of the chaos that is enveloping the world.
NOBODY has a monopoly on suffering. We can see how certain groups use their suffering as if its the only suffering in the world that matters. Criminals come in all colors and religions.
The Way Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Well said, sir.
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