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We Are Change Activist Framed for Assaulting Handicapped Girl
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
April 24, 2008
It was apparently not enough Gary Talis was attacked and punched by John Lovetro for making the mistake of asking the women of the Bush crime family a question about 9/11 truth and the illegal and immoral Iraq occupation.
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| Witness Dianne Lipson took this photo of John Lovetro, restrained after attacking We Are Change activist Gary “German” Talis. | |
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Now, according to the neocon newspaper the New York Post, Talis was “arrested after he punched” the “wheelchair-bound girl whose parents had told him to shut up” for “heckling,” i.e., asking questions of the Bush women.
As Jason Bermas noted on the Alex Jones Show today, Gary Talis is non-violent and not likely to attack or yell obscenities at a girl with cerebral palsy confined to a wheelchair. But this is precisely what the New York Post and a gaggle of neocon blogs and websites claim:
They [Talis and We Are Change activists] had been in the audience to hear the Bushes talk about their children’s book, “Read All About It.”
“He began yelling about Iraq and Iran at Jenna Bush. She was waving at the crowd. I told the guy, ‘What are you doing? Shut up. This is about a child and books,’ ” said John Lovetro. “He was unperturbed. I said, ‘Get out of here! You’re being a moron!’ ”
The next thing he knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen – a fan of the first lady since meeting her in 2004.
“I heard my daughter hysterical yelling, ‘He’s hitting me!’ ” said Wendy Lovetro.
“He punched her on the shoulder blades, but that wasn’t enough,” she said.
“My husband pushed the wheelchair away from him and he reached beyond my husband and began pounding my daughter in the thigh.”
The two men fought as the president’s family drove off. Cops broke them up and busted Talis on charges of assault and resisting arrest.
Maureen was not seriously injured.
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This account is at odds with a version presented by other witnesses. Dianne Lipson emailed the following account to Jones Report editor and journalist, Aaron Dykes:
The event was over but the Bush ladies were still in the venue, the 92nd Street Y. I was with Gary and another member of WAC. People were being told to wait behind a secret service agent or to cross the street. A small group of people were gathered behind the agent to catch a glimpse of the Bush ladies when they would be going from the building into a waiting black van.
Gary was exercising his free speech rights, talking to the crowd. The mood of the crowd was hostile toward Gary. Among the waiting crowd was a man in a blue jacket and a woman, obviously his wife, and their teenage daughters, one of whom was in a wheelchair. The man in the blue jacket was taking particular offense at what Gary was saying. He even made threatening gestures at Gary. At one point he cocked his fist at Gary, with an odd little half smile on his face, like he wanted trouble. Gary and the man had words. I was very surprised to see this man make threatening gestures at Gary while his family, including his daughter in the wheelchair, were right there.
The Bush ladies came out. Gary asked them how they felt knowing that people thought that Bush was responsible for 9/11. He had to shout, as the Bush ladies were some yards away.
Then it was all over, the van pulled out and people were walking away.
The man in the blue jacket was pushing his daughter’s wheelchair. Instead of going straight up the street, he veered over to the side of the building to where Gary was. Next thing I know, he caught Gary in a corner of the building and was whaling on him, saying that Gary had touched his daughter. I know Gary, and he would never do something like that. Gary’s instinct is to protect women and children.
He had Gary in the corner, and was punching him and punching him. If Gary managed to defend himself I did not see it. The man’s wife was pleading with him to stop. The daughter in the wheelchair was in tears.
Then the police came and put Gary, not the man who assaulted him, but Gary, in handcuffs.
I went to the 19th precinct to make a statement. They told me to wait. The man who assaulted Gary was in the lobby area where I was, not back where Gary was in custody.A policeman photographed Gary’s assailant several times, then let him go.
I did not see a mark on this man. Later I heard he had a split lip, but I did not see a mark on him. Gary, I heard, was bruised up. I am not surprised. The man punched Gary over and over again.
So I waited over 2 hours, only to be told that I could not make a statement. I still don’t quite fully understand why.
From what I observed, the man who assaulted Gary was looking for a fight, and he actually exploited his physically challenged daughter, steering her wheelchair toward Gary, in order to fabricate an excuse to physically vent his anger.
Lipson’s account is completely at odds with the version published in the New York Post, a well known venue for attacking truth and patriot movement activists.
Appearing on the Alex Jones Show, Dianne Lipson reiterated her account and told Jason Bermas she fears for Gary in the wake of the New York Post’s hit piece.
Gary Talis also appeared on Jones’ show. He emphatically stated he did not assault the handicapped girl. In fact, he said, John Lovetro used his daughter “as a weapon” against him, ramming the wheelchair into his kneecaps and accusing him of attacking the girl. Talis told Bermas he believes the attack was coordinated.
Now that the neocon media network and blogs have kicked into high gear, the larger, neocon-friendly corporate media will likely characterize Talis and We Are Change at large as violent and dangerous, exactly as Glenn Beck, Morning Joe, Geraldo Rivera, and Bill O’Reilly have suggested, sans any evidence whatsoever. Now they have “evidence” in the form of a skewered and biased report published in the New York Post and swiftly echoed by the likes of Michelle Malkin, the concentration camp apologist and neocon who routinely appears on Faux News.
Note: the author of the New York Post article is Philip Messing. His email is: philip.messing@nypost.com. Please write him and ask him to tell both sides of the story in the name of objective journalism. I know, this is the New York Post, after all. Remember to be polite and to the point.
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Update: As expected, Fox News wasted no time carrying the New York Post’s slanderous article.
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April 24th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
This is GOOD news people. The NEWS is actually reporting on WE ARE CHANGE! Haha… we’re really getting through to these old dogs. They have no new tricks. Just put out false information about us, because they have nothing good against us.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
This will further put more bad connotation of the truth movement, because people will see this negative story, and any reraction or correction will be unsensational, and not memorable to those with a 3 minute attention span.
Fighting it now, up front is the only chance to de-bunk it.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
i have lost all ability to be shocked by this kind of behavior. i actually expect it.
i’m sure their daughter will say nothing about the incident.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
WE MUST CALL IN EVERY RADIO SHOW & EXPLAIN WHAT REALLY HAPPENED , we must not allow these people to twist everything when it is them who is evil , THEY ARE JUST DIGGING THEMSELVES A BIGGER HOLE BUT we must ambush all radio show (neo-con based) & TV shows & let them know what really happened ,, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO FOLKS ,,LETS MAKE THEM GET THIS RIGHT !!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Fuck arnt anyone going to stand up against the man? I say its time to seriuosly kill those PIGS! Its time to end this we all know that Gary Tails didnt hit the little freak. ITS TIME! TO BE RID ALL THOSE CROOKED COPS AND THOSE FUCKING GLOBALISTS! So what if we die, we will die with honor. Better to be a lion for a day then to be a sheep for a 100 years.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
The writer of the NY Post article is;
philip.messing@nypost.com
Flood him with e-mails. Call his office. Confront him and ask him where he got that information.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
We say more the lie is big more people are willing to believe it , I’m pretty sure this statment does not work all the time, who is going to believe this 9/11 activist guy has several time punched a teen girl in a wheelchair , that just does not make any sense and sounds so idiotic than it looks like an (bad) april fool and a total frame story…
April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
A laura bush fan?? What is so fantastic about laura bush?? even for a wheelchair bound retard?
April 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
…Ah-bdi…”noname” Tha’ss right ,…b…bdi…better…b…burn like a torch than have a long shity life !!!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS WONDERFUL JOB GUY’S
April 24th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
We Are Change raises money for the sick first responders. Shame on the cops for arresting Gary.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
#8, hijacked nation. I know someone whose daughter met GHW Bush after his term, and before she died of cancer.
He is unbelievable staunch about how great the X-Prez is, and wil not listen to any truth about him. The parents are worse than the child they take to meet the famous persons, trust me.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Those Eval Doah Truthers beat crippled children, and harass our Godly christian leaders.
Having a good laugh about this one at Langley, and the grove, I’m sure.
This is how they operate.
13*
April 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Funny how a picture with her and the first lady leaks out with the article. Was this a staged incident.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
The first post (anon) has a very good point. When they can no longer ignore us, their last recourse is to use defamation and physical violence against us. This is good because it gives us fodder to use against them.
Video cameras are out greatest weapon of all – use them. Pull them out for every traffic stop, every “policing action” by military and SS, or when you see cops going berserk. Don’t make it obvious or they’ll take your cameras. Plaster their simpleton faces all over the internet. Take pictures of their badges and license plates – again, be discreet about this.
EXPOSE THEM!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Is this monster attached with the another Pig’s from NY that told WE ARE CHANGED they were terrorist?
That PIG who did sing:
” Who is going to jail “… you folks remember?
PIG’s YELLOW JOURNALISM
How? WE ARE CHANGE felt on this PIG’s hands? They are so well oriented Kids about the real terrorists…
Why another camera was not on?
THOSE PIG’s WILL FALL
Ghost Master…
in Honor We are Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUeAV6-Fo8
April 24th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
This is part of the Machine of Tyranny.
In Communist Russia, you were never arrested for being a Christian.
No, what they did was FIRE the Christian from his or her place of employement, them arrest them
for their “failure to work.”
However, this NY City incident ADDS this to the ongoing crimes of the Machine.
One day, THEY will be arrested, and held accountable to ALL OF US for their ongoing Crimes.
The meaning of Satan? Is, “Slanderer.”
We are fighting a widely held Luciferian Cult.
It is the bottom line driving ALL of their Crimes against We the people.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Engaging in this type of activity only serves to create additional antipathy toward the 9/11 Truth Movement.
This discredits us far more than it helps us. It also begs the question; is Gary a provocateur who was attempting to incite violence?
It appeared that Gary was begging for a serious ass-whipping and the man he was antagonizing was more than happy to oblidge. The cops love this kind of thing – they know they can frame anyone dumb enough to do this kind of thing in public.
Stupid is as stupid does.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
We need to have cameras on at all times when doing anything. Witnesses just aren’t enough, suffice to say, since Dianne’s statement was all but ignored by the police. We NEED to document this stuff so that they can’t continue using violence against us and blaming it on the same peaceful organizations they attack. We are the new media and whenever we go to any event at all we need to have multiple people watching all those that are speaking out to keep close tabs on them with diligent camera observation. This is going to continue because they are looking for any reason to demonize this movement.
They will fail; we have truth. We just need solid proof of it. The We Are Change video from Ireland made it incredibly obvious that we were acting peacefully and not bringing about the violent aggression. They have people hiding trying to instigate stuff; we need to have people hiding taking pictures and videos.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
As sickening as this frame job is ,this is the rule of the land now…….no one will take any of the 911 truthers or wearechange guys seriuosly….hell even here in arizona they don’t even exist and if they do they are unheard of.
the sheeple do not want to hear the truth never have never will ,NEW YORK is full of totally mindless sheep ,99% of them are scared of thier own shadow …….the father of the girl in the wheelchair is a dickhead and a liar WE know this BUT FAUX news and Cant Believe Shit news ,and No Broadcasting Capabilties news will turn this into a story of a “conspriracy thoerist attacks handicapped girl in front of hundreds of witnesses…..good luck
April 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
oh and i forgot A Blatant Cover-up News !!!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Ah I see. The 9/11 truth movement is 1.) affiliated with AlCIAQaeda, Iran, commies and the boogie man, and 2.) endorse the beat down of disabled people severely. Oh and the killing of little puppies…oh wait that’s what the marines do..
April 24th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
#19, Rakkur, you are right, have more than one camera, more than one angle, and don’t shift to another scene. It’s the only way to provide proof.
#20 Realist, I like those News channel names, LOL!
April 24th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUeAV6-Fo8
You believe if Gary did a 1/10000000000000000000000000 part of what this Yellow Journalist said
He should stay alive?
You thing these ” very nice cops from NYC ” who did count down WTC 7 to the ” PULL IT GUY ” those who did see them own co workers died after PULL IT… you think those “ nice cops from NYC “ should Gary alive now?
WE ARE CHANGE
GUYS YOU ARE GHOST MASTERS
April 24th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This shows the need for multiple cameras when doing these shout out’s. Groups should have one or two camera’s off the close scene, watching the event. Then if something happens we can catch it in the act.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
There is a time and place for everything. Laura Bush and her daughter talking about childrens books to an audience that includes a handicapped girl is NOT the place to shout out questions about Iraq. Was the matter handled badly by this neocon nut, the police, the media? Of course, but that should be expected. This was not the place or time to do this, and the truth movement suffers a significant blow. Learn from this fiasco. In the future go after those responsible. People like Feith, Grossman, Wurmser, Wolfowitz, Yoo, Ashcroft, Bush, Cheney, Libby, the AIPAC spys on trial, Ridge, McCain, Kristol. Not their wives and daughters. Don’t give the propaganda machine weapons to use against us.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
No, “noname” what we need to is put the heat of the spotlight on people like you – that either out of foolishness, malice, or a desire for profit spout all this rabid vitriol that allows the ignorant to believe that Gary or any member of WAC or other 9-11 groups would attack a girl in a wheelchair.
I am all for free speech, but I am going to exercise my free speech in asking you to say something useful or STFU. Please.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
@ Poor College Student:
Or do something I learned form 2600 Magazine’s Emmanuel Goldstein – just like cops have “drop guns”, have a “drop cam”. Let them take one and have another stashed in your bag or pants or whereever. This does get expensive, but freedom and truth are worth it, no?
April 24th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
If you’re part of the truth you are a target for this. So it won’t just be the ones on the frontlines being targeted like this. Soon it will be just like the communist witch hunts of the past except they’ll be going after 911 Truthers. It will be to a point that you would be a suspect if your cousin’s best friend’s uncle’s former roommate was on a 911 truther website.
Learn to defend yourself in non-violent ways. Learn martial arts. A true martial artist trains and studies to defend himself and others not attack. If Gary had been trained he could have sat there and blocked everything until the guy wore himself out or till the cops showed up and saw that it was the other guy attacking not Gary and nobody would get hurt in the process. except maybe their pride.
As much as we try to avoid the violence they will try to start it and we need to be ready. If we continue to cower and let only them have the power, means, and ability to defend or attack then we will lose. History is told by the one who wins the conflict. So with that in mind we have to win.
At some point they are coming for you, your friends, and your family and thats a fact. Are you going to be ready? Are you going to give up without a fight? Are you going to let the persecution and murdering of the innocent continue without a resistance?
I am all for solving this peacefully and without violence but when the other side is intent on violence we have to be ready to meet it head on and overcome it preferablly unhurt and alive.
I think this song by Disciple says it all
Game On
1 Samuel 30:1-18
Barrett / Fife / Noah / Young / Wyrick
When the lights go up and the game is on
Are you ready for me cause I’m ready for you
When the bell rings out and the fight is on
Are you ready for me cause I’m ready for you
It’s time for us to start throwing down
Look and see who’s standing now
Didn’t even know that you and I were cross
Until a sneak attack from the weak side
Unaware that we were in a fight
I guess that’s part of the problem but guess what
Say what you want to say about me
Throw up what you want to throw up at me
But when you mess with those that are around me
That’s when you and I will have a problem
Bridge
I’m not afraid of loving my enemies
Turning the other cheek
Blessing those that would curse me
I honestly want peace with you
But when you come against my country
When you come against my family
You try to destroy my people
I can’t just stand by
There’s no way that I can stand by
This time I will not stand by
I am coming, and if I come
then pain is coming with me
I’m coming and pain will be with me
April 24th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Yo freedom fighters, I could use some help on digg.com! Neo-con idoits have stormed the post, which was by a neocon, but balance is needed on this article post.
http://digg.com/world_news/9_1.....apped_Girl
April 24th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Something so wearied about this episode because what did happen was just a day before than Alex did exposed with angry what did happen with WAC with the MP of Ireland.
WHO LET THE Dog’s OUT?
WHO LET THE CAM OFF?
I think this is just a pinch what they are preparing to do.
Wait and see
April 24th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Some one please can give us idea with this accusation how long Gary will be arrested?
They going to sky high his fees out
I can’t believe
April 24th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
what we should consider doing is just waging a new type of online war, when ever a polotician or or any big celebrity or whatever posts some kind of video on youtube or anything just have a bunch of people decimate the thing with video responses consisting of “end game” and “washington your fired” and huge amounts of text comments that simply point to websites of documented evidence of all the bull shit now going on… all that would be powerful and hard to ignore do it anywhere your alowed to make comments or post anything
April 24th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
The timing of these new alleged “violent outbreaks” by peaceful activist groups is probably just about equal to the time some elitist think-tank groups would take to come up with such a ruse. Notice they didn’t start out as being violent (allegedly). They just suddenly decided to start beating up defenseless people – a handicapped girl, for God’s sakes. I guess they are hoping many people will be dumb enough to believe that. The next fake story will be We Are Change guys throwing babies and puppies off cliffs. Oh they are just so horrible!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Docholliday
100% AMEN
April 24th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
For those who care out 911 must knows that:
For almost seven years Isaac Newton are dancing in his on grave yard
Isaac Newton is waiting for his time Trial on the medieval age Court
you will see it
April 24th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
My name is freedom this is my first time leaving a reply i’ve been watching and reading up on the current things going on recently I have just joined we are change i think that the we the people must open our eyes to everything thats going on We need the truth
April 24th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
They are just trying to take out we are change they can lock us up for asking question what is happening to our country that we have fought so hard to keep free and WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE HOW CAN WE CALL THIS LAND HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I hate to bring in some sorrowful conjecture, but Gary might be compromised now….not of his own free will, but in the method of “Do this or your family will die” Type insentive, i hate to think that would happen to anyone, but this ruse is to me, way to circumstantial, IE: truthers would be more alarmed if he or others were getting taken away for no claims :/…….
Not necessarily the case, but i wouldn’t completely cross it out of it being possible
April 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
So let’s go to Mexico
April 24th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Cobra
when he will be released?
Do you guys having a idea?
April 24th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
do you guys know why Alex didn’t show up today for the mainstreamed?
April 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I’ve hit a few of the blogs with some reality about the story. Mentioning Gary’s size and the size of the father. Not to mention his demeanor is not aggressive or even assertive. Now the demeanor of the father well, according to the lady that was never given a chance to make a statement as an eyewitness, he had that look in his eye and was shaking his fists right away. Anyway, also e-mailed the author of the ny post article, let him know he’s on shaky journalistic ground. I asked if he even tried to interview the lady that stuck around as an eyewitness. Well, I don’t think this will work anyway but if they want to shift into a higher gear then we can too.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
doc holliday – you got a good head on your shoulders buddy. you seem to get it. most people are becoming too sensitive and too soft. back in the day hangings were common. rape and pillage were also common. but now all of a sudden no hangings, rape and pillage???
this era we are in is worthless. let’s kick some ass.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
My heart is broken for him… no one needs tell gary where he is right now.
He now very well
But the sad part of this whoke thing is everybody in soem way or the other are ging to the same hell till WE UNITED
April 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Ieda, he is out today, and was on the AJ show answering questions ………………
April 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Interesting….. Google ‘John Lovetro’ and you will find he contributed $750 towards Rudy Guliani’s campaign. He is a self-employed plumber from Howard Beach, NY. Going to do more research on this guy. Something smells fishy here.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
TXGIRL
Thank you! Good for him… I hope Alex help those kids
He is powerfull
at least makes more noise
I like when he talk laud!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
The NeoLIB media was just “dying in wait” for this type of setup (sic)!! Now they’ve “got” so-called “evidence” that Truthers and 9-11 “We Are Change” activists are supposedly violent anarchists!! God help us!! The side of Truth, that is, please!! Expect more such setups like this one, to even more cement the lie(s) into the “washed-of-brains”, easily indoctrinated, conditioned, programmed, and brainwashed, impressionable masses!! Truthers: Get in and get out!! Don’t “let yourselves” be setup like this!! Take a lesson from the retreating NeoCONS in the black vans, do what you came there to do, and then get out of there fast!! Have a running vehicle waiting for you outside if you have to!! Go Truth, and set more and more people Free!! Keep up the great work, We Are Change and 9-11 Truthers!! Anti- and non- violence all the way!! And let the liars expose themselves for the liars they are!!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
#49, Patrick Henry, I like it, send more Dirt Now! hahaha!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
My heart is more broken for him because Gary reminds me my brother
I see him on tape and he all the time was with his head down like he was wating for the worse.
When I see the part of the tape that the skin head cop was asking him soemnthing was really scare time
i can imagine affter
April 24th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
#52, doc, good info, thanks a bunch for the medical opinion. I had to check my smile to see if I had brain trouble, haha.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
John Levetro is the agressor, not Gary.
Hearing Gary, in the youtube video I thought he was extremely calm even after getting put in the police van. Much much calmer than I would have been.
There is no way that Gary did anything wrong, much less hit the girl in the wheel chair.
This would be completely inconsistant with his fight for truth.
We need to turn this around.
How could Levetro get so upset about this whole incident ?
Either he is a violent person, his police record should show this.
Or he is trying to stifle 911 truth.
Or the powers that be were planning something like this to falsely discredit 911 truth.
WeAreChange puts on the internet their plans in advance don’t they.
Then this could all be pre-planned, in which case maybe Levetro is a govt agent or tied to security in someway.
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Levetro needs to be charged with
aggravated assault and lying.
Must be some very severe penaties for this.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
truther
We hope on this monster, horse, SOB, gost, zambie, sckul, bond, and etc… John Levetro recordes we should find alots of False Statments
that could be great
April 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Let’s see, Guliani contributor, Bush worshiper, he probably thought it would detract from his
15 seconds of fame and ruin his daughter’s spotlight.
OR
Guliajni contributor, and Bush worshiper, on the payroll to make WAC look evil, yeah, that’s more like it.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I’m singing
Gues whom’s is going to jail……… lallallalalla
April 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
New YouTube video of Jason Bermas’ AJ Show interview of Gary Talis about his arrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrNuAQwekuY
April 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
John Lovetro campaign contribution and other information can be found here:
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.....cc=plumber
More to come as deemed necessary by the fascists who set Gary up. The truth movement will be a very bright light shining in the eyes of the evil doers. We are their BIGGER BROTHER!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Broadtrade Plbg & Htg
John Lovetro
Flushing, NY 11355
Tel: 718-888-0689
April 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Lovetro also donatd to Guliani;
http://www.newsmeat.com/campai.....1&li=L
April 24th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
This is a TIP for everyone
If any one get in the same situation of Gary should lay down on the ground no matter what should lay down immediately
some suggestions is welcome
April 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Yooo, spam the wiki of that Neocon Zionist Feith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Feith
I tried editing the post and obviously went off on him being a traitor and a Zionist with an Israeli agenda they deleted my edit. Let’s fuck with these assholes.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
John Lovetro
Unlimited Mech P & H Inc. (Used to work for Broadtrade), SYOSSET NY Master Plumber
St. Bridgets Catholic Church
This information should be noted for legal reasons only. There are several JOHN LOVETO’s named in the NY yellow pages.
More to come
April 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
It appears that other papers are now rescinding their articles;
From the Gothamist – Jen Chung the writer of the article now states;
Update: Based on comments questioning the accuracy of the Post’s article (one commenter writes, “In the girl’s deposition to the police there is no mention of the protester punching the girl”), we’ve contacted the NYPD for more information about the incident. We’ll update once we have an answer from the NYPD.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Did the girl have any visible markings of being hit? Lovetro is going to jail no matter what.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Wish I lived in NY. I’d shit in my toilet for like 2 weeks then call him out to fix a “clog”. Seeing how he’s such a piece of shit I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
It’s interesting that he donated to Guliani and one of the phone listings under his name is blocks from the World Trade Center. Coincidence?
Lovetro, John
1373 Bay St
Staten Island, NY 10305-3901
(718) 285-4345
April 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
It appears that Lovetro has had issues before, probably has also spent some time in the tank also.
A BUILDING CONTROVERSY MITCHELL-LAMA FACES NEW PROBE
By ROBERT GEARTY and CORKY SIEMASZKO
Thursday, March 9th 1995, 3:62AM
The Manhattan district attorney’s office has begun exploring the possibility of filing criminal charges against Stone and two builders named in the civil suit John Lovetro and William Tortorelli.
http://www.nydailynews.com/arc....._mitc.html
April 24th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Issued to: JOHN LOVETRO License No: 0000971-MP
Business: BROADTRADE PLBG & HTG INC Phone: 718-888-0689
43/18 MAIN ST FLUSHING NY 11355
We are change needs to go visit him at one of his worksites or at his office and ask why he likes to beat people?
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bis.....equestid=4
April 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
John Lovetro is a plummer? Don’t surprise me considering he is a piece of shit.
April 24th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Lovetro is not going to be a plumber much longer. He will be convict number 9988999……. with several million dollars of civil lawsuit damages to pay Gary.
The daughter is not going to lie to the prosecuters, Gary’s lawyers need to focus on her as the main witness.
April 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Joe Rogers….. that info is out of date (2006). He now is shown working for
Unlimited Mech P & H Inc. (Used to work for Broadtrade), SYOSSET NY
As a Master Plumber with a score of 95 on his plumbers exam, so he really knows his shit!
April 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Well, this incident settles it! We need to lock up every person in this country who questions the official 9/11 story; all truthers beat up disabled people and support AlQaeda/Iran/boogie man, etc.
April 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Ray,
Wearechange is having an impact and the rats are starting to get nasty. If you read Michelle Malkin’s readers comments you would not believe how many people believe that Gary punched her. Michelle Malkin needs to be confronted ASAP.
April 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Patrick Henry,
Is Lovetro the guy in the criminal probe in 1995? Is it possible to confirm that? It is time to smear him so the headline would read;
“EX-con Beats Innocent Activist to a Pulp”
The police report is public information. Can someone go down to that precinct and get a copy?
April 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I’ll see what I can find
April 24th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I wonder if the father took his Daughter home and punched her leg a few times to make some bruises for evidence?? Just imagine what kind of person would use their child to instigate and use as a means to beat someone up? This man is a sick fuck!! It seem’s it’s the Neocons and warmongers that are violent and willing to go to any length to hurt and have people wrongfully arrested just because they don’t like people that are against the forming of a fascist police state..
These people are extremely dangerous and I hope they die a horrible death!!
I’m sorry but when I read a new article everysingle day that innocent people are being arrested or beaten for simply expressing their views, it makes me so mad I can’t even explain it legally
without the threat of being arrested..
April 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I wrote the author of this ridiculous New York Post story and asked him if he worked for the Onion.
http://www.myspace.com/sunshinecitymusic
April 24th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Patrick Henry and Joe Rogers you guys are awesome
GOD BLESS YOU FOLKS
April 24th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
That’s a lesson from the greater folks of ALL TIMES
Great JOB
Chess Game
April 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
The only way people will truly wake up and be free is not only learn about the NWO but also become born again and learn the Bible, and follow the Lord Jesus Christ. Any who rejects Christ and his teachings is still a slave. A slave to their own sin. Sin will wreck your life.
Do you obey the Bible?
Honor thy Father and mother; don’t be a Homo or Lesbo; love the Lord thy God with all thine heart; don’t get tattoos; love thy neighbor as thyself; don’t get body piercings; dress modestly; men, dress like men; women, dress like women; men have short hair, women have long hair; don’t commit fornication nor adultery; don’t desire other people’s things, don’t steal anything; don’t be a drunkard, (beer makes drunkards); keep God’s Commandments; fear God; etc….
April 24th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Preacher Says
…..etc
and plays violin
April 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
This is a shame that one man cannot exercise free speech
April 24th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I also did found something from this guy John Lovetro
April 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
I also did found something from this guy John Lovetro
Joe this guy is a free………….on
April 24th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Why does someone have to invoked being saved by “Lord Jesus Christ” as the path to destroy the NWO? I don’t get it. I think Jesus pukes everytime some holy roller throws that out. Jesus wants us to be men. Defend the weak. Defeat evil. If you do that, you will make it.
Jesus ain’t comin back. Why would he?
April 24th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
We are change are the group that is going to get slammed the most in the future as the face of the 9-11 movement. It looks like they are being set up by the Feds to stry to mash the entire movement. You know how they work. I don’t have to say more.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
PeterD and T.S. Garp=delta team
April 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Joe this guy is a free………….on
April 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
#91 T.S. Garp, How can you fight the evil outside of you without fighting the evil within you.
The Bible says; For all have sinned….. there is not a just man upon the earth that doeth good and sinneth not……If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth si not in us.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
#91, Jesus is coming back, and boy is he mad.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Preacher….. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone, o.k. Jesus had long hair, was he a woman? This is not your congregation and I doubt you are a preacher. If you are, you need to go back to school and re-study the scriptures.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Patrick Henry
something important to tell ya
April 24th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
this guy is a free………….on
April 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
John Lovetro is a free……………………………………on
April 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
#97, How do you know Jesus had long hair? Did you see a real picture of him? Jesus is the living Word, the Bible is the written Word, they don’t contradict each other.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Preacher=delta team
April 24th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
101 are you saying LoveNOT is a freemason?
It would figure, catholic pope kisser, punk, abuser,
That picture of Leerer Bush. She’s completely detached from this
young lady.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Preacher….. prove to me that Jesus had short hair. You don’t know scriptures, you fraud.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
#104, Even though I know you are an idiot, and after I show you it won’t matter to you anyway, I’ll show you anyway.
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair it is a shame unto him? I Corinthians 11:14
April 24th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
did you find it? Patrick Henry
April 24th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Wow preacher, you finally found it!!!!!!!!!! Goggle works great doesn’t it. And calling me an idiot….SHAME SHAME PREACHER MAN!!!!!! I knew that quote long before you looked it up. I just hate hypocrites who think they are holier than thou. This “preaching” turns more people away from God than anything. God bless you friend, you need psychological help.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
#107, What is it going to turn people away to, Hell number 2.
Your problem is that you don’t like your sin exposed. Repent you sinner. Get right with God.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Back on the REAL subject here…..We Are Change assaulted!
So far from what I have gathered, John Lovetro is indeed the individual involved in the rip-off scheme at the Big Six Towers in Queens. He has lived and worked very close to that area for a long time. Some of the permits that he has pulled for construction projects are very revealing. He has partnered with people (other contractors, real estate investors, etc.) that were experts in explosives and had strong political connections. I’m still doing research, but it is a stretch to draw any immediate conclusions as of yet.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Preacher….. put a sock it in!!!! olloo
You repent first, you arrogant jackass. That’s it, your done! You are wasting peoples time and totally off subject here.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
I don’t know why you use the name Patrick Henry. He was a good Christian man, you are a lost sinner on your way to a burning Hell.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Now see if he was a Police Officer everything would of been fine. What a laugh, anything to and try to make us evil.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Preacher…… SO YOU THINK YOU KNOW MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD? YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO IS AND ISN’T GOING TO HELL. YOU ARE A TINY, TINY, LITTLE PISS-ANT WHO THINKS HE HAS THE RIGHT TO SIT IN JUDGMENT OF OTHERS. PLEASE STATE YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND SO WE CAN SEE WHERE YOUR TRUE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM COMES FROM. I BET I COULD PUT YOU TO SHAME ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF SCRIPTURES AND U.S. HISTORY (AND ANY OTHER SUBJECT FOR THAT MATTER).
YOU ARE A COWARD WHO HIDES BEHIND A KEYBOARD AND JUDGES OTHERS. SOME PREACHER.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
http://hiddenmysteries.com/xca.....amp;page=1
April 24th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
As someone who respects WE ARE CHANGE for confronting the real crooks, I have to agree with AK Wilks and Get a Clue on this.
C’mon man. Use some common sense when doing these things. These people are just ignorant so its no surprise you are getting demonized. Just look at her! Shes clueless. Your anger is well-founded and you show courage by getting out there daily, but confronting Laura Bush at an event for handicapped children ?
In short, Laura Bush is not the person to lash out at.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
hey preach,
your a hard line protestant arent you? that would explain alot
April 24th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
#114, Your attitude toward the scriptures tells me you are lost. That is all the proof I need.
April 24th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Preacher.
Where is your church so I can attend with you?
April 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
The problem about the THRUT is:
People who does not know the FACTS
Classified everything they started to know as a THEORY
April 24th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
#120
Sorry, but please check your spelling and grammar, dude. It is embarrassing. Your name and what you write doesn’t make sense. Spelling properly is the only way to get a respectable message across.
April 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
thank you. i was about to send the same messsage.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
As far as I’m concerned, this idiot deserved it !!!!!!!!!! This was not a place for an anti-Bush or anti-war protest !!!!!!!! It was about a children’s book for God’s sake !!! I don’t care what you think about Bush, the first lady deserves the respect due to a lady and the wife of a president no matter what your political views are. This was a NON-POLITICAL event where simple respect and decency should have been adhered to by those present at the event. You have no idea how many people this idiot probably turned away from seeking the truth about 9-11 due to his horrible behaviour !! Free speech does not mean you abandon civil decorum, respect and decency, especially in a place with children and women present; and a disabled child confined to a wheelchair to boot !!!!!!!!! Shame on you !!!
April 24th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
hey douche bag kevin ?? does it say in the constitution you cant express your political views at a children’s get together?
April 24th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Look, not to get too far off topic here, Kevin… but theree are children all over the world, and over 3 billion women. I don’t hear you crying about any Iraqi women and children and what innocent people deal with in a real war zone because of Laura Bush’s husband…. but you worry about (and condone violence towards) someone expressing their political views in America in front of women and children.
Wake up and smell the coffee, brother.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
All this hearsay needs to be finalized in the courts. We’ll see who comes out the truth teller. Quit bickering and start suing!
April 24th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
If you people can’t show respect and decency to people who hold different opinions than you hold, may you don’t deserve freedom. Freedom should still be confined to moral and respectfull behaviour !! This idiot purposely went out of his way to seek out and find conflict. You seriously think that an event celebrating a children’s book with the First Lady and children present was the place for a violent foaming at the mouth screaming protest against the war and Bush??? Unbelievable !!! Alex Jones has stated very clearly on his radio programme that he does not approve of this kind of protest against the family members of the President. How did you help the children and people of Iraq by screaming at a wheelchair bound little girl??? How did you spread 9-11 truth by insulting the First Lady???????? Didn’t your parents teach you to have respect and etiquette to your fellow citizens? Free speech does not mean you can disrupt any event and insult people. There is a proper place for protesting, and this was clearly not one of them. Common sense should have made that quite evident.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
#125 LA Doc
“No doubt there will be a lot of profanity and insult-laced gnashing of teeth in response to this”
You mean like the crap that you just spewed from your mouth, pussy. You obviously don’t have a clue about personal freedoms and Constitutional Rights. Free speech doesn’t have to be squeaky clean regardless of time or place. Sorry that you are sooo sensitive, girly man.
#123 Kevin
“Free speech does not mean you abandon civil decorum, respect and decency, especially in a place with children and women present”
Apparently you have no problem in some jackass using his wheelchair bound daughter as a tool for violence and hate against free speech. He pushed his daughters chair toward Gary causing her to cry and become scared. He then started pummeling a man half his size. Talk about a psychopath!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Yes, but that would have never happened if the protestor would not have disrupted this NON POLITCAL event. If you people think that traumatising a little girl confined to a wheelchair is okay and is helpful to the 9-11 truth movement, then you’re really mentally sick and doomed to defeat !!!
April 24th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Let a jury decide who’s telling the truth. That’s why we have due process so use it before it’s completely gone.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Indeed, the jury will decide. Several news organizations have already recanted their stories because the girls story story to the police contradicts the fathers’. He forcefully pushed her chair into Gary. ‘Kevin’ has his head up his ass if he thinks that someones WORDS are what caused this psychopath to endanger his own handicapped daughter. His ACTIONS endangered his own daughter. He was the violent aggressor. Gary threw no punches, he was holding a camera with one hand and shielding himself from blows with the other. I don’t give a rats ass what he was saying or where he was saying it. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASSAULT ANOTHER MAN WITH HIS DAUGHTERS WHEELCHAIR AND HIS FISTS!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 12:13 am
The real Patrick Henry was a highly educated, well read, educated man and would definitely not use the type of language you are using. This Gary was an idiot for protesting at this NON POLITICAL event and traumatising children and insulting the First Lady.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:20 am
I hope John Lovetro really beat the shit out you Gaaaaary because you certainly deserve it you little whimp ass pussy piece of shit!
April 25th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Kevin……
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Patrick Henry was one of the most outspoken and fierce debaters that ever walked the Earth. He slammed the founding fathers for not allowing for personal freedoms and citizens rights. Because of his outspoken, and often brazen speeches, we have the Bill of Rights and the Constitutional Amendments. And, for your enlightenment, I have a degree in Architecture, a minor in Physics and Computer Programming and an I.Q. of 160.
NICE TRY, THOUGH!!!! You might try reading some real history before you put your foot in your mouth.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Non of this would have happened if it were not for this Gary showing up and disrupting a children’s event celebrating a children’s book where the First Lady was present. It’s a good thing that the First Lady is promoting books and reading for children. Can’t you people differentiate between political and nonpolitical events? Do you have any decency? Do you have any respect? Do you know what is proper and what is not? Gary was a coward to take advantage of a children’s event to protest. In fact, it is so destructive to the image of the truth movement that it may have even been a psyop to make the movement look rediculous and vulgar. This Gary, probably turned away a lot of people who might have been open to the truth !!!! You must retain respect for the office of the presidency and the president’s family while protesting, otherwise you do more damage than good. Alex Jones sat right next to the Bush daughters in a restaurant and retained civil decorum and decency and did not confront them because he knows how differentiate between an political event and a non political event. Should Alex started shouting at them pull out placcards and get in fights with bystanders like this idiot Gary???? Of course not. This was definately a psyop to damage the image of the truth movement.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Patrick Henry would not have insulted and attacked the wife of the King George and started a brawl with bystanders at an event attended by the Queen of England with no politcal symbolism whatsoever !!!!!!!!!!! And he definately would not have used the type of filthy language that you use !! You are a disgrace to the movement !!!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 12:29 am
#135 “little whimp ass pussy piece of shit!”
Wow, you sound very intelligent. John Lovetro is a marked man. For his sake, he better hope that the police arrest him first. Nut-cases like you probably enjoy beating up their girlfriends as well. Well, assuming you’re straight??????
April 25th, 2008 at 12:32 am
‘Kevin’…….. you can’t read!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gary didn’t start ANY fight. And stop trying to pull this crap about knowing what Patrick Henry would do or think. By todays standards, and yours, Patrick Henry and the Founding Fathers would be called TERRORISTS and dumb-asses like ‘Steve Richmond’ would call for them to be pummeled to death.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Produce for me an example of Patrick Henry having behaved in the same way as this Gary. When did he disrupt an event for children and attended by wife of King George? When would he have picked a fight with bystanders at a non-political event and traumatise children?? You don’t have a clue about the personal honour, dignity and respect the brave men of the 18th century had towards their fellow man and would have sacrificed themselves in a duel at the slightest affront to their dignity and honour, unlike yourself that spues out vile and filthy language and insults to those who do not agree with you. You are a disgrace to the movement and how dare you use the honourable name of such great man as Patrick Henry??? He had common sense and you don’t. This is not how you conduct a revolution !! Gary deserves the consequences of such an affront to public decency and respect and he has damaged the movement by staining the image of those who are legitimately fighting for freedom, honour and justice. You are a vulgar, uneducated disgrace and you are damaging the very movement you claim to be a part of. Alex has clearly stated that what Gary did was a mistake !!! Are you going to attack Alex now because he doesn’t agree with you? I wouldn’t be surprised in the least. You must be worthy of freedom and demonstrate a behaviour superior to the criminals who rule us in order to have the moral upper hand. You must live your life as an example and not lower yourself to the gutter of your opponent. I hope that you will one day truly emulate the great Patrick Henry and refrain from such behaviour that is harmful to yourself as well as our honourable movement. Godspeed !
April 25th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Again, you apparently still can’t read the facts. And who are you to call me “uneducated” you dork! He didn’t pick a fight with bystanders!! You keep spreading these lies because you have no case or a brain. You try and come across as this calm, sweet little goody-two-shoes but yet you support a psychopath like John Lovetro terrifying his handicapped daughter and pummeling a man half his size. Yes, this make me very angry. If you condone such violent acts of terrorism against your fellow man, you deserve to be beaten into the ground, kicked in the head and dragged into some back alley. You are insane. You defy COMMON SENSE!!!
Our founding fathers were very tough, brave men who were jailed and many died fighting for our Constitution Rights. You know, like the FIST amendment……FREE SPEECH……. Ring a bell yet?????
Try reading the personal letters of our founding fathers. They did some very dirty and violent things to the TYRRANTS that told us to be good little sheep and do as King George says. Move to the U.K. if you want that fascist crap in your life. You are the uneducated fool, little boy.
April 25th, 2008 at 1:13 am
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
April 25th, 2008 at 1:17 am
“Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.
Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak — unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.
The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable — and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, “Peace! Peace!” — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
Patrick Henry – March 23, 1775
April 25th, 2008 at 1:53 am
Here is another example for your re-education ‘Kevin’:
http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/004406.html
“Patrick Henry rose and hurled his bolts: “Whither is the spirit of America gone? Whither is the genius of America fled? … We drew the spirit of liberty from our British ancestors. But now, Sir, the American spirit, assisted by the ropes and chains of consolidation, is about to convert this country into a powerful and mighty empire … There will be no checks, no real balances, in this government.”
April 25th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Very funny indeed. None of that comes even close to attacking a children’s event and traumatising a little girl confined to a wheelchair and insulting the first lady. Nice try, but it falls short and cutting and pasting from history books does not legitimise your filthy language and vile insults and conduct.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:06 am
All those quotes from Patrick Henry clearly demonstrate that he uttered those words at political gatherings and revolutionary events and NOT at a children’s event. How far will you go to try to legitimise the idiotic and highly damaging behaviour of Gary????
April 25th, 2008 at 2:20 am
How far will you go to legitimize the idiotic, violent, and disgusting acts of people like John Lovetro? you are a TOTAL hypocrite! You are not worthy of any further debate. You support psychopaths. You’re fixated on the my “filthy language and vile insults and conduct.” Get over it. It’s about free speech and a violent nut-case assaulting a private citizen. Instead of whimpering about my language and conduct, please justify your idiotic support for a man violently assaulting Gary, regardless of Gary’s’ words. Go ahead, try and justify that!! How far will you go to avoid your support for evil.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:37 am
Attacking a little girl in a wheelchair and insulting the first lady is not free speech!!!!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Patrick & Kevin’s arguing sounds like some sort of damage control show. Very strange guys! A little surreptitious & allot seeming gangrenous. However this whole affair is of a gangrenous nature. Truth is a positive virus that cannot & should not be stopped: As it’s wish to spread to all, we should not just let it but we should help spread it. Sorry Kevin but you sound pretty miscued. Not a matter of opinion whether you want it to be or not; miscued is what your argument is. Alex is entitled to his opinion, if he wants to align himself so as not end up as demonized as Gary has become. Alex already has to fight off too many demons of demonization. Although, I’d like to hear Alex change his tune in regards to calling this a mistake. The whole point of Gary’s noble actions in questioning the “BLUE BLOOD royalty” is to raise awareness, force the truth, & by will of action protect ALL OF US; EVERYONE!!! Gary stepped up to the plate at great risk to himself, for the GOOD OF OTHERS! Very selfless & courageous! As far as the appropriateness of Gary’s actions pending an event you call “non political”, time is fast running out before the THOUGHT POLICE seize anyone for anything! Will you speak loudly for truth & the good of others at great risk to yourself, in defense of the race of MAN? Well, sorry but I have to say “I DOUBT IT”!!! It doesn’t matter the venue. Every decision one makes, from what shoes you put on in the morning to managing time to go to the bathroom at work, or which lane you’re going to switch to on the HIGHWAY: Everything involves POLITICS. People sometimes say “I HATE POLITICS” or, “I’M NOT POLITICAL”! I guess they just don’t understand life &/or decision making; & I’d go so far as to say “NEITHER DO YOU”! Patrick’s comments here show his discontent, disenfranchisement, & soulful anger. Appropriate feelings & reactions to Tyranny. Because you don’t seem too upset in your discussion here about the fathers “USING HIS DISABLED CHILD’S WHEELCHAIR AS A BATTERING RAM”, it causes me suspicion about your motive here on the “BIG BOARD”. Are you an agent here, practicing your damage control? In my view you seem to have an agenda here or, your just not thinking this situation through completely enough in terms of THE BIG PICTURE.
The fight for truth goes on, the N.W.O. continues it’s FAMINE BY DESIGN, the MARCH towards WAR with IRAN is escalating, & us TRUTHERS are now being grouped together with AHMADINEJAD, AL-SADR, & AL QAEDA! IF YOU ARE “TRUE TA DA GAME”; THEN YOU KNOW “WE MUST BE FRIENDS”! THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND! I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF THIS DIVISIVE, DIVISIONARY, TACIT CRAP YOUNG MAN! I hope you will think HARD & come to see all this more clearly. Consider the BIG PICTURE.
Poor Steve is unfortunately a big sissy. Sorry to insult you verbally Steve, but what is the point of your pontification when you are securely protected from flesh & blood confrontation behind your computer
screen. And furthermore, you are so dead wrong! People like Gary are the bravest of the race of MAN! I strongly doubt you do or would ever exhibit the kind of courage Gary & his ilk show fourth on a regular basis. I would sincerely say, “WAKE UP BROTHER” but I KNOW you won’t listen. Oh, well… No big loss…
(” ” ” ” “Steve Richmond Says:
April 25th, 2008 at 12:20 am
I hope John Lovetro really beat the shit out you Gaaaaary because you certainly deserve it you little whimp ass pussy piece of shit! ” ” ” ” “)
but we should help spread it. Sorry Kevin but you sound pretty miscued. Not a matter of opinion whether you want it to be or not; miscued is what your argument is. Alex is entitled to his opinion, if he wants to align himself so as not end up as demonized as Gary has become. Alex already has to fight off too many demons of demonization. Although, I’d like to hear Alex change his tune in regards to calling this a mistake. The whole point of Gary’s noble actions in questioning the “BLUE BLOOD royalty” is to raise awareness, force the truth, & by will of action protect ALL OF US; EVERYONE!!! Gary stepped up to the plate at great risk to himself, for the GOOD OF OTHERS! Very selfless & courageous! As far as the appropriateness of Gary’s actions pending an event you call “non political”, time is fast running out before the THOUGHT POLICE seize anyone for anything! Will you speak loudly for truth & the good of others at great risk to yourself, in defense of the race of MAN? Well, sorry but I have to say “I DOUBT IT”!!! It doesn’t matter the venue. Every decision one makes, from what shoes you put on in the morning to managing time to go to the bathroom at work, or which lane you’re going to switch to on the HIGHWAY: Everything involves POLITICS. People sometimes say “I HATE POLITICS” or, “I’M NOT POLITICAL”! I guess they just don’t understand life &/or decision making; & I’d go so far as to say “NEITHER DO YOU”! Patrick’s comments here show his discontent, disenfranchisement, & soulful anger. Appropriate feelings & reactions to Tyranny. Because you don’t seem too upset in your discussion here about the fathers “USING HIS DISABLED CHILD’S WHEELCHAIR AS A BATTERING RAM”, it causes me suspicion about your motive here on the “BIG BOARD”. Are you an agent here, practicing your damage control? In my view you seem to have an agenda here or, your just not thinking this situation through completely enough in terms of THE BIG PICTURE.
The fight for truth goes on, the N.W.O. continues it’s FAMINE BY DESIGN, the MARCH towards WAR with IRAN is escalating, & us TRUTHERS are now being grouped together with AHMADINEJAD, AL-SADR, & AL QAEDA! IF YOU ARE “TRUE TA DA GAME”; THEN YOU KNOW “WE MUST BE FRIENDS”! THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND! I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF THIS DIVISIVE, DIVISIONARY, TACIT CRAP YOUNG MAN! I hope you will think HARD & come to see all this more clearly. Consider the BIG PICTURE.
Poor Steve is unfortunately a big sissy. Sorry to insult you verbally Steve, but what is the point of your pontification when you are securely protected from flesh & blood confrontation behind your computer
screen. And furthermore, you are so dead wrong! People like Gary are the bravest of the race of MAN! I strongly doubt you do or would ever exhibit the kind of courage Gary & his ilk show fourth on a regular basis. I would sincerely say, “WAKE UP BROTHER” but I KNOW you won’t listen. Oh, well… No big loss…
BROKEN HALO, ONE WING DIPPED IN BLOOD
Sincerely
A Representative of: Americas Bureau of Investigation & Loving Intervention of our Nations Children
If you end up reading this, “Sup, Bermas”!!! {:-)}
April 25th, 2008 at 2:47 am
Insulting the First Lady most definitely IS free speech, you fool! And no one attacked this girl in a wheelchair, she said so herself. I have come to the obvious conclusion that you are just being as ass and spreading lies for your own petty, feeble-minded amusement. Get a life.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:58 am
I know you are laughing Kevin… Comments like “Attacking a little girl in a wheelchair and insulting the first lady is not free speech”, are again tacit, moot, WRONG, incorrect & divisive.
You keep arguing the same incorrect, invented subjects. Just to get a rise & a response for your own enjoyment.
If I’m incorrect in my judgment of your intentions, then why do you keep saying that Gary “Attacked a little girl” & “insulted the firs lady”?
Just the same as the poor little girls father did, you too are using her as a weapon here!
And as far as the “FIRST LADY”. Laura Bush is as bad as her husband & the whole mind controlled family!
I won’t call G.W.B. “the president”, & I won’t refer to L.B. as the “first lady”. I have no respect for these N.W.O. traitors & anyone who understands the truth of the past & the present day would not have any respect for them either; no matter what country they come from. We all have eyes to see, ears to hear, & a brain with which to think. Again, I hope you are not just a lousy damage control agent here. I hope that you will look at the big picture. We HANG together or we HANG separately.
“We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN!!!
BROKEN HALO, ONE WING DIPPED IN BLOOD
Sincerely
A Representative of: Americas Bureau of Investigation & Loving Intervention of our Nations Children
If you end up reading this, “Sup, Bermas”!!! {:-)}
April 25th, 2008 at 3:47 am
SOME HOW MY “STEVE POST” & MY KEVIN/PATRICK POST GOT MIXED UP!
April 25th, 2008 at 3:59 am
The we are change organisation are protesting about the 911 cover up and the collossal government corruption. They do not beat up people and they never have done. This is simply to give the organisation a bad name so it goes straight onto the front pages and t.v to the public. But don´t worry. We´ve got so smear for them too. Except it´s their own doing and they are constantly making it too so there´s so much to throw at them. Watch out, it´s coming.
April 25th, 2008 at 4:04 am
La Doc, La Doc, he loves only cock.
He comes, He comes to try to make fun,
of me, of you, who want only truth.
When hit, when hit by tyranical shit,
he giggles and laughs and calls protesters crap.
Well soon, and near I’m sure we will hear
his pussy fart cuz he thinks that he’s smart.
Sooner than later when he checks his stocks,
he’ll realize he has to go back to sucking on cocks.
We’ll win, we’ll win and La Doc’s grin,
will be complete with dozens of homeless mens’ skeet.
April 25th, 2008 at 4:08 am
I think the girl’s father needs to calm the fuck down. Using your disabled daughter as a battering ram and human shield is very bizarre behavior-does he do this sort of thing often? Someone should call CPS.
April 25th, 2008 at 4:45 am
Hay guys! Good job raiding a children’s book event and beating up cripples! KEEP UP THE FIGHT!
April 25th, 2008 at 4:46 am
WE MUST FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOMS! ATTACK THE CRIPPLES!
April 25th, 2008 at 6:05 am
quite disgusting. I feel for yopu Gary. I was framed by the police myself when I was a teenager and the lies they told in court in their statement were unbelievable. I have since lost a lot fo faith in the police although not all are like that. It makes you afraid to ask police for help when you need it and I would rather avoid them at all costs now. I am not the only one that this has happened to either I know many many people with similar stories that I have met over the years. I totally believe you and when I saw you on Video in the video talking you were very rational and talking politely with no anger no abuse or anything being extremely peaceful. It definitely does not make sense and there is no doubt in my mind that you are the victim here.
April 25th, 2008 at 6:19 am
what important problem are we are change gonna tackle next, now that theyve done ahnolds belt buckle and this? these guys are just a bunch of loud mouth punks trying to get some cheap internet fame. dont stop believing!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 6:56 am
You people are really dangerous fanatics if you think that a children’s book event where the main person being celebrated was a little girl in a wheelchair is the proper place to fight the NWO !!! Really really sick people !!!!!! The girls father was frightened by a foaming at the mouth fanatic screaming and carrying signs and he thought his daughter was in danger. The father would have never reacted like that if the idiot Gary wouldn’t have disrupted this event. I agree that his reaction was not appropriate and bizarre, but again, it would never have happened if not for Gary. You you people can’t differentiate between a political and non political event and if you can’t have the common sense to know when and where the proper place to protest, then you’ve already lost the cause. If you can’t have some respect for the First Lady and a disabled little girl, then what value does your freedom and free speech have if you conduct yourselves like savages??? You must be worthy of freedom and defend it with your honour, dignity and decency and Gary’s behaviour was far far from that !!! FREEDOM THAT IS NOT SUSTAINED BY A FOUNDATION OF MORALITY AND ETHICS IS NOT TRUE FREEDOM BUT BARBARISM. I am completely opposed to the Bush regime’s policies but that does not give me the right to insult and heckle the First Lady of the United States of America and use a children’s celebration as a platform for my regresses. Shame on you !!!!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 7:08 am
i tend to agree, though less fervently, with Kevin. Pick your battles AND your battlegrounds.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:22 am
You people that like to worship the founding fathers have to realise that if this idiot Gary Talis was back in the days of George Washington and was a loyalist; if he would have gone to an event where George Washington’s wife was present and started screaming at her and at children, not only would he have been beat up, he probably would have been challenged to a duel for disgracing the President’s wife and been shot dead !!!!!!!! It was not the proper place to protest and freedom of speech must be confined within the limits of human decency and morality!!!!!! People like Gary are actually helping these tyrants to destroy our freedom of speech by giving them the perfect excuse to justify restricting it. Remember, our freedom of speech is not granted by the state but is a God given universal right, so practice it with respect and dignity, not heckling the First Lady and little girls !!!!!!!! For those tyrants that want to abolish freedom of speech, Gary must be a dream come true !!!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Kevin,
While I agree that it wasn’t the best event to protest at, we must uphold Gary’s constitutional right to speak freely. That lunatic used his disabled daughter as a human shield as an excuse to hit Gary. Moreover, he viciously assaulted Gary for merely exercising his first amendment right. However, none of this is the true issue. The true issue, that elephant in the room, is the fact that the police, secret service, and that lunatic John framed Gary. This is an egregious violation against an American citizen. And you should be ashamed for supporting such a pathetic act.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:30 am
The fact that it probably wasn’t the best event to protest at is immaterial. The constitution doesn’t have a clause that states, “Congress shall make no law…prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, UNLESS YOU ARE AT A Laura BUSH EVENT.”
April 25th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Kevin… just give it up man, you’re not gonna convince anybody here that there was a SHRED of justification in what this kook did to Gary. He obviously has some coping issues with his daughter’s condition. I pray they may find Peace amidst their troubles, but he deserves the fullest extent of punishment for his fanaticism.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Kevin, you are spreading disinformation. Gary wasn’t heckling little disabled girls. He was asking questions to Laura Bush and her daughter. And who the hell made you the authority on where one should practice their first amendment? That freak John used his own daughter as an excuse to viciously assault someone practicing their constitutional right. Gary didn’t lay a finger on anyone. He was framed by the police.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:36 am
How you can interpret from my comments that I support the behaviour of the father and the police is beyond me. The point of my statements are that none of this would have happened if Gary Talis would not have disrupted a children’s event and that it was no place to protest the NWO. What’s next for the We Are Change people??? Disrupting a children’s puppet show or maybe a Church service??? How about a funeral or a sunday afternoon picnic?? If you want to make yourselves fools in front of the world, fine, but I’ll have no part of it. Leave the President’s wife alone and give her the respect that is due a lady whether you agree with her or not. She is not responsible for what her husband does. The same applies to the Bush daughters !!
April 25th, 2008 at 7:43 am
I would like to take another moment today to say thanks to the double agents/paid naysayers that post here. We see through your horse semen, and your empty, futile efforts work wonders in explaining to amateur activists how to deal with your sick, twisted psychological warfare.
We really appreciate all your help, but honestly, you guys should seek some kind of therapy. When you get your heads together, get real jobs. If you don’t care about yourselves enough to do it, do it for your family and/or God.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL STOP THE REVOLUTION NOW. ALL ATTACKS ONLY SERVE TO STRENGTHEN US. SO BRING IT ON, YOU WEAK, FAKE LITTLE BITCHES…
April 25th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Yeah, we’re in trouble. The thought police won’t even allow one to ask a question to Queen Bush. How dare Gary ask her a question…she’s the Queen of American and far above us commoners. Yeah we should all bow down to aristocracy if we know what is good for us. We are mere slaves to the dvines who rule over us…we have no rights
April 25th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Did not our propoganda ministers repeat ad-nausium how Saddam hid behind the children? I guess that is what dictatos and their families do. Was not George W. hiding behind the children on 911 readind “My Pet Goat”
April 25th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Shes Hott!! This is sad! I would spank Laura Bush!
April 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
If this is *proven* to be a frame-up, and the word gets out to the masses, it could be the “shot heard ’round the world” that sparks the revolution.
April 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
THE AGENTS OF INFLUENCE ARE RAMPANT IN THIS FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YOU AGENTS
April 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Ray and other here:
Kevin has been on this idiotic rant for two straight days. He says the stupid thing every time. He has stated that Gary DESERVED this brutal beating because of WHERE he was and WHO was there. Screw the First Lassy, Kevin. You would have been the first person to betray our founding fathers when they dared to question and insult King George. Our own King George and his wife Laura are no different than the Tyrants of the 18th century. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Kevin,
The problem with your thought process is that the elite never wander amongst the masses except for photo ops for propaganda. These are the only chances us peons have to even remotely confront these fascists. Be civil to these mass murdering butchers when they go out in public? Your BE POLITE attitude has made it possible for dictators to MURDER hundreds of millions of men, women & children in the past century and will no doubt double or triple those numbers over the next few decades. I hope you feel proud of being a gentleman towards those who rape, torture and murder your family while you watch. You and your family deserve it!
April 25th, 2008 at 11:08 am
#163
Kevin, any place under the sun with any human activity at all is a great place to protest the NWO
April 25th, 2008 at 11:36 am
You people are being set up to behave like rabid foaming at the mouth idiots and Gary is a perfect example. This is the very behaviour they want you to engage in so they can use it as propaganda and make the whole movement look bad. Alex Jones has clearly stated this on his radio programme. Are you going to attack him as well for not agreeing with you?? Based on what I see on this forum, there’s no hope for you and you might as well get ready for the Fema camps because you’re not going to win a revolution acting like idiots !!! It might help you to look at Gandhi and Martin Luther King as good examples of true revolutionaries. Do you people consider yourselves Christians? I don’t think Gary’s behaviour would go well with the teachings of Jesus. Is it “We are Change” or is it “We are Loud Mouth Rude Idiots for Change”??? And no, not all places are the proper place for confrontation and protest and especially a children’s event. This is the turning point because the moment a We Are Change action needlessly traumatises a child, your moral foundation is completely lost.
April 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am
To frame it up right, you need to dress up a cop in a 911 truth t shirt, and film him punching the girl right in the face. Then say “911 truthers are violent anti government” on FOX. Then, you get John Yoo to write a couple new memos, Bush to sling a couple executive orders- and wallah! You got 911 truth movement illegal.
Any way you dice it, we need more heavy hitters like Ventura coming forward to shed the light of truth to the public.
Some people will do ANYTHING for money and power. And that’s exactly the kind of people who are being inserted into positions of power in the US.
Why would ANYONE, especially in public, punch a handicapped girl? This is an outright lie- it never happened. And Gary should sue for libel big time.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
thats right, now they are attacking us with their lies, and very soon they’ll make a bigger lie and send anyone who comes to this site, voted ron paul, or any number of other tags – to the FEMA camps!
don’t be suprised if something explodes and they blame it on someone associated with this “movement” who is appropriately crazy, and use that false flag to get anyone doubting the godliness of the society, killed or put away permanently.
It makes a lot of sense for them to carry out this type of plan. Associate the movement with the Iranians so you get two birds with one stone. The possibility of insane lies is endless because people forgot that the Real World is Outside These Walls. In the real world things are beautiful – even death; and the NWO know this, and that’s why they rule, because they love death and you are afraid of the very same. See, you don’t think you can die. You think you are safe. The NWO knows that this movement would have them executed because they know that this world is KILL or BE KILLED. And they’re going to win, because you think you don’t have to run, you can sit here and live in this filth, this filth that makes you depressed and unhappy because it is a lie. The real world applys to society – that you ever believed there was a God here, that a giant bear could not sit on the throne and eat what it likes only caring for itself; you were decieved. When you were a child you knew the truth, that you would bleed if you fell down. But society made you afraid of blood, and so you stay away and make sure you don’t fall, but because of this, you lose what is real – that this is a world of flesh and blood. Stop thinking God will save you, and run like the deer from the wolf.
April 25th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Kevin’s probably from the UK or another of the Lion’s whelps. They
haunt YouTube also – always dissing the US but ignoring there’s
a concentration camps waiting for him. If he’s a plant he’ll go the
way of the ‘Long Knives”. They use you, then snuff you. The NWO-ers,
Illuminati and Nazis ALWAYS murder the help. And each other.
Anyway, Bush read a goat story while 911 changed our lives forever.
Kevin would rather a little kid have story time. Change isn’t Bush.
Bush’s buddy Giuliani has a plumber who abuses his child during
story time. Got any comments on that Kevin?
April 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
post 176
“Anyway, Bush read a goat story while 911 changed our lives forever.”
That was not a mistake. The goat is worshipped as a devil head of the illuminati. The book was actually being held upside down. But in order to placate the blood sacrifice of 911 – the book was chosen for its title “My Pet Goat”. The cabal is very twisted and sadistric.
April 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
yea Watcher, in that way it was a sick joke and an “in your face” thing to be doing – safely far away and using their satanic symbol
April 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Kevin,
Do you realize you are defending the violent f#$% that attacked someone trying to call attention to the 911 victims families? Maybe when the Stepford wife and daughter-gone-wild get a minute from trying to use the greatest war criminal of our time as a legacy into more middle class dumb ass cash to fill the Bush coffers… do you get what I am saying? Maybe those F*%^ing Cu$%s could find a minute to stand up for people that lost their life while our president sat with grade schoolers and Cheney ran the stand down… don’t you think Kev? Don’t you think that the time for pleasentries and polite boot licking to these families of destruction has gone on long enough? Would you curtsy to the Queen? Are you living in 1776? Would you pull your head out of your exit stradegy and quit ninnying with those that have the balls to make change? I say screw the norm, let the flood gates open, and let anyone who has the balls confront ANY member of these criminals families. They can’t make us all sleep with the fishes, so Kevin quit being a pussy.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
P.S. Kevin,
The First Amendment does not say anything about the “do’s and don’ts to free speach” so here is my free speach. FUCK OFF
April 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Kevin,
Daniel did a good job of shooting your theories full of holes, but I would also like to point out how your examples of revolutionaries are not what you think they are. Were they revolutionaries? Certainly they were. Are they worthy of the Messianic qualities that we have been so falsely led to believe by the left wing propagandists? Absolutely not. You need to read “Gandhi: Behind the Mask of Divinity” by G. B. Singh. It sheds some light onto the real facts about Gandhi and his so called peaceful movement. Likewise there is enough information about MLK out there for anyone who wants to find it which easily destroys the myth of King as a peaceful activist for civil rights of all people. MLK was a violent communist, who’s goals were to simply wage war against the White European establishment of America on behalf of the Jewish supremacists. He was a reported womanizer, plagiarist and an anti-white racist.
By emulating the actions of individuals and tactics that never existed in truth, you are dooming yourself to failure. Revolution of any kind is never a pretty picture. No revolution has ever existed that did not ruffle a few feathers, and in all honesty no revolution ever existed or succeeded which did not resort to unpleasantries. Now that is not to say that I endorse violence, I do not. Make no mistake, they would love to be able to paint anyone as a violent extremist who is waking up to their lies and currption, so that that they could declare open war without being the aggressors. However attempting to play by the rules of courtesy with wolves will not stop the invevitable labelling and open warfare on activists from occuring. They will simply invent lies where no truth exists to support their aggression. Wherever and whenever possible their lies and crimes must be thrown in their faces. Maybe you are uncomfortable with the term revolution, but be assured that is exactly what those in power see. More correctly they see you as a terrorist, and it does not matter that you prescribe niceties for curing the ill. You threaten their power by your very existence. Today they call you a terrorist in secret, tomorrow in the open when they come for you.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
if there are any people on this website who have land they might want to consider starting a commune. if you don’t know what a commune is google it. there are many types of communes from christian communes to hippie communes to eco-villages here in the usa.
i think we should start an “infowarriors commune”. if you agree with most of the information on this website you would be welcome to go and live(or visit) at the infowarriors commune. it would take a few acres up in the mountains to get started. everything is free as long as each commune member does his job(which is only a few hours/day). from what i have seen each commune has gardeners, hunters, fisherman, cooks, carpenters and so forth.
i stayed at a commune in north carolina one time. it was fun. i think it would be great for the like-minded individuals on this site to have a place to gather and possibly live. of course we would bear arms and there is no telling how big this commune could become. i have seen communes as small as 20 people and communes as big as 300 people. you never know this could even become a city.
Infowarriors, USA pop. 434 is what the sign might say one day when someone passes thru. lol
April 25th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
AnarchyIsAQueen……
If there was true anarchy in the U.S., you’d be the first to scamper into a corner and cry and whimper for somebody to save your sorry little butt. We outnumber your ilk by millions and we sure as hell aren’t foolish enough to huddle together and become an easy target. We’re armed to the teeth, we fear no man, and we are willing to fight to the death to defend our freedoms. You can’t say that about your little group of trolls.
April 25th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Kevin…
How does it feel to not have any friends?? Your love for people like Ghandi, MLK, Laura & George Junior are all the proof anyone needs of who you are & the spineless cowards that you represent.
April 25th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
“.. if you agree with most of the information on this website you would be welcome to go and live(or visit) at the infowarriors commune…”
So you suggest we go build our own death camp, and move into it?
April 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
WELL THEN STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT !! GARY PURPOSELY SOUGHT OUT A CONFRONTATION AND HE HAS TO NOW ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT. HOW REDICULOUS THAT HE THINKS THAT DISRUPTING A SPEECH OF THE FIRST LADY AT A CHILDREN’S EVENT WOULD NOT OR SHOULD NOT HAVE CAUSED OUTRAGE AND CONFRONTATION. IF YOU’RE GOING TO DO THESE STUPID THINGS, THEN STOP COMPLAINING LIKE COWARDS ABOUT THE REACION YOU YOURSELVES GENERATE BY IT. TALK ABOUT BEING PUSSIES !!!
April 26th, 2008 at 6:38 am
It looks daddy made sure his little princess got her vaccines. If I saw that thing crawling out of the dark woods towards me, I’d bash that deformed little troll. She looks like a C.H.U.D., I here they’re a problem in NYC at night. Smack a C.H.U.D., save a country. Sounds like a fair trade off to me.
April 26th, 2008 at 6:47 am
#187 Human insulin, iv chemo agents, pet vaccines, also have mercury compounds as a preservative.
April 26th, 2008 at 9:15 am
ROFLMAO. Truthers are always good for a laugh. Little self-important narrcissists who are actually only the most gullible fools on the planet.
Steel doesn’t need to even come close to melting to lose all structural integrity. Four gas station sized fuel tanks inside building seven in the basement several floors up had nothing to do with that building burning down. No way! Bush ‘willed it’ to happen because he is ‘evil incarnate.’
We need to take morons like truthers and get them out of the parents basements and into full time employment. Except they are such complete idiots no one would want to have to train them. I guess that is why they have so much free time to go around beating up cripples
April 26th, 2008 at 9:21 am
It looks to me that there’s a need for some kind of “boycott board” on every freedom site, where someone can find very easily brands & companies and the reason they’re being boycotted.
That way anyone can fight this kind of attacks, and the mainstream media a$$holes will think twice before spitting everyone down the throat (because that’s what this is).
Doing nothing but freaking out like in this case or a short time-close to nothing boycott like the faux news/Ron Paul case won’t do the trick because people forget and their money keep flowing.
Let’s say i want to buy a car in the near future.Even if i see toyota today on NYP website, by the time i’ll actually buy the car this issue is long gone, or i say “Well … was it toyota or another brand or… whatever, i can’t remember what was that all about, anyways.”.So i had the opportunity to fight back it but i wasted it because for me NYP was no longer an issue till next time they hit.
They attack us, then we stop buying their crap and that’s fighting back!
April 26th, 2008 at 11:04 am
As for the trolls getting a hard on fooling around in your secret agent phantasmagoria, know this: there is no place for you people on either sides. When this global power trip madness is over you’ll be standing between a rock and a hard place, whichever sides wins because you mean nothing to the elites, or, at best you’re tools out of use that need to be disposed of.
And Stevie, if you are a structural engineer please give a link to your research, let the people know how steel pulverizes from poorly oxygenated fire.
Or if you want to do some more research here’s an useful link http://www.stj911.org/ (if you don’t mind those nasty low-life-basement-crawling truthers).
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November 6th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Whether he did hit the girl or not, the fact is, LEARN TO SHUT YOUR MOUTH! Shame on all of you ignorant liberals who believe that because you see the First lady and her daughter you should be able to scream things at them about the President. You take the constitution too far. You use violence to protest war (hmmm can we say stupid?) You heckle innocent people because they don’t agree with you. The same constitution you love to quote says that we have the freedom to have our own opinions. Stop doing drugs….this is why most of you have no money and no jobs! You’re delusional if you believe GEORGE BUSH set up 9/11. Let us go back and re-think 9/11 for a minute. Maybe if stupid people didn’t fall asleep doing the job a monkey could do those terrorists wouldn’t even have made it into our country in the first place. They signed their immigrant papers halfass. They put that they were going to college but didn’t say where. Some of the questions were left blank. If that wasn’t bad enough, they were able to still get on board a plane even though one of them kept setting the metal detectors off. I’m sure that the people who were supposed to be doing those jobs failed because they were mad about their food stamps being revoked. Try and use what little brain you have left after all the acid and THINK. What could George Bush possibly get out of this? How in the world would anyone be able to set something like that up? No matter. Now that Democrats have successfully taken over our country, I’ve decided to pop out 8 kids and maybe quit my JOB. I think I might get on welfare and YOU’RE going to pay for it. Happy?