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We Are Change Confronts Brzezinski for a 3rd Time
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September 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Way to go guys, keep up the pressure!
September 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Hey,
I support We Are Change and I hope you continue to confront the criminals in government. I am sorry but I cannot understand what Brzezinski is saying. But could you guys include a transcript of Brian and Brzezinski’s Q and A?
Thank You.
-Badwolf
September 27th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
LMAO @ this fakn fakr!
September 27th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Not really a “confrontation” but still good to hear the dark lord lie constantly, gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
September 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I love WE ARE CHANGE & am encouraged by their intelligent questioning & putting a big bright light on all this corruption….thank YOU!!!! *peace* ^_^
September 27th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
you guys are totally making a difference and stuff
like you guys are changing the world by bothering zbig
of course hes going to deny those kinds of things
anyone you know about is just a frontman
questioning them does nothing
the ones you dont know about are the ones in control
September 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. (BILDERBERG)
Another key Obama adviser, Anthony Lake, he was the main force behind the US invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years during which they brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti. (BILDERBERG)
Another key Obama adviser, Dennis Ross. Ross, for many years under both Clinton and Bush 2, a key–he has advised Clinton and both Bushes. He oversaw US policy toward Israel/Palestine. (BILDERBERG)
Another Obama adviser, Sarah Sewall, who heads a human rights center at Harvard and is a former Defense official, she wrote the introduction to General Petraeus’s Marine Corps/Army counterinsurgency handbook, the handbook that is now being used worldwide by US troops in various killing operations. That’s the Obama team. (BILDERBERG)
as YOU CAN SEE,, he is BACKED by bilderberg
Bilderwhatareyoutalkingabout…… MUAH He was more than exposed… nice job.
September 27th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I think Osama is already dead from kidney failure. If the CIA really wanted this guy then they would have put his brothers in detention until they talked. The brothers were here right up to 9-11. Strange how the government seems to be so loose about the #1 terrorist in the world but yet the secret service was kicking down doors in colleges of anyone with anti-Bush posters or stealing computers and hard drives of people sharing whistleblower information. Strange allocation of resources for the worlds biggest military. Another fact, Homeland Security hasn’t prosecuted any terrorists, it’s not that they haven’t tried. They’ve been prosecuting Americans left and right under thier new goon terrorism laws .
This is because there are no real terrorists, and the war on terror is a sham. Believe me if a rebellion was fomenting the NSA would be the 1st to know about it. Its absolutely ridiculous to think that rowdy middle easterners could take over planes and target national sites w/o being shot out of the skies immediately. Thank you We Are Change and Alex Jones for telling the truth at a time people need it the most.
September 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
The old artful dodger squeezed right out of answering the first question, of course. Since it is generally known in the truth movement that he doesn’t necessarily show up on the Builderberg lists, the angle of inquiry by the caller was more like ‘tell us why have you been seen attending Builderberg meetings?” Answering with the stammering response that he’s ‘not a member, so call somebody who is’….that’s a total flip off. We know why, so it’s really just academic, but wouldn’t it be something to finally hear any of them admit it?
Then, on the subject of installing, funding, training, and basically creating those hash smokin’ Afghani mercs and their hell raisin’ anti-Russian henchmen (code named Al-CIA-da), the question implies that there has been plenty of trouble from them going rogue and lashing back at the West…hence, aren’t we suffering “blowback” from the nemesis you guys (NSA and CIA) created? So, the crafty slippery snake just answers with a foreign policy opinion that we’ve probably been over there too long. Real slick.
Can someone tell me why we revere these foreign globalist minded self proclaimed visionaries and political gurus so much to allow their heavy influence on our foreign policies? Did Brzezinski or even Kissinger, for that matter, ever actually become US citizens…hell, Zbiggy never was a Canadian citizen after living there for aeons. To me, it’s almost proof in the pudding that massive imperialistic global government plans are in motion…as if US sovereignty be damned to the ultimate agenda. BTW, I basically don’t put any stock in the reptilian theories, but doesn’t this old creep looks like a freakin’ gila monster?
September 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Oh, go back to Poland, you lying turd
September 27th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
DON’T EVEN THINK FOR A SECOND BRZEZINSKI WAS NOT ALSO ADVISED, NOT EVEN A NANOSEC:
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has admitted for the first time that she led high-level discussions beginning in 2002 with other senior Bush administration officials about subjecting suspected al-Qaeda terrorists detained at military prisons to the harsh interrogation technique known as waterboarding, according to documents released late Wednesday by Carl Levin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee.
Responding in writing to questions by Levin, who will convene a hearing today on the administration’s interrogation program, John B. Bellinger, Rice’s legal adviser at the State Department, said they recalled participating in meetings with Ashcroft and then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in July 2002 about an Army and Air Force survival training program called Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) meant to prepare U.S. soldiers for abuse they might suffer if captured by an outlaw regime.
Bellinger, who also worked with Rice at the NSC, the then National Security Adviser “expressed concern that the proposed CIA interrogation techniques comply with applicable U.S. law, including our international obligations” and that Rice asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to “personally review the legal guidance” of specific interrogation techniques.
In April, President George W. Bush told an ABC News reporter during an interview that he approved of meetings of a National Security Council’s Principals Committee, whose advisers included Vice President Dick Cheney, former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, former CIA Director George Tenet and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, where these officials discussed specific interrogation techniques the CIA could use against detainees.
Waterboarding—or simulated drowning–has been regarded as torture since the days of the Spanish Inquisition.
“I recall being told that U.S. military personnel were subjected in training to certain physical and psychological interrogation techniques and that these techniques had been deemed not to cause significant physical or psychological harm,” Rice wrote in response to a question about the SERE techniques.
But those techniques were meant to prepare U.S. soldiers for abuse they might suffer if captured by a brutal regime, not as methods for U.S. Interrogations, which is what Rice said the discussions at the White House centered on. Moreover, the SERE methods were first designed by the communist government of China to be used against U.S. soldiers.
The hearing Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee will focus on the genesis of the SERE techniques used during the interrogations of suspected terrorists.
Rice has denied that the U.S. tortured or abused prisoners. But in declaring the U.S. does not engage in torture, appears to be relying on a narrower U.S. definition of torture than that is accepted under international law, such as the 1984 Convention Against Torture that was signed by the Reagan administration in 1988 and ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1994.
“The threshold for torture is lower under international law: acts that do not amount to torture under U.S. law may do so under international law,” wrote Philippe Sands, law professor at University College London, in a column published in the Dec. 9, 2005, edition of The Financial Times.
“Waterboarding – strapping a detainee to a board and dunking him under water so he believes that he might drown – plainly constitutes torture under international law, even if it may not do so under U.S. law. …
“When the U.S. joined the 1984 convention it entered an ‘understanding’ on the definition of torture, to the effect that the international definition was to be read as being consistent with the U.S. definition The administration relies on the ‘understanding.’
“So, when Ms. Rice says the U.S. does not do torture or render people to countries that practice torture, she does not rely on the international definition. That is wrong: the convention does not allow each country to adopt its own definition, otherwise the convention’s obligations would become meaningless. That is why other governments believe the U.S. ‘understanding’ cannot affect U.S. obligations under the convention.”
There is ongoing debate as to whether the brutal interrogation techniques first used against a suspected terrorists predated an Aug. 1, 2002 legal opinion, widely called the “Torture Memo,” that provided CIA interrogators with the legal authority to use long-outlawed tactics, such as waterboarding, when interrogating so-called high-level terrorist suspects.
Neither Rice nor Bellinger provided dates about the discussions Rice led regarding interrogation methods. Additionally, Levin did not ask Rice whether Bush or Cheney participated in the talks.
In his book, “At the Center of the Storm”, former CIA Director George Tenet wrote that he attended a meeting with Rice in May 2001 where Tenet discussed how Abu Zubaydah, the alleged high-level al-Qaeda operative, planned to attack the US and Israel.
“For my regularly scheduled meeting with Condi Rice on May 30, [2001], I brought along [deputy CIA director] John McLaughlin, [then director of the CIA's counterterrorist center] Cofer Black, one of Cofer’s top assistants, Rich B. (Rich can’t be further identified here). Joining Condi were [former White House counterterrorism czar Richard] Clarke and [former CIA official] Mary McCarthy,” Tenet wrote. “Rich ran through the mounting warning signs of a coming attack. They were truly frightening. Among other things, we told Condi that a notorious al-Qa’ida operative named Abu Zubaydah was working on attack plans.”
Abu Zubaydah was captured in Pakistan less than a year later and was whisked to a secret CIA prison site in Thailand, where he was interrogated and subjected to waterboarding—believed to have taken place sometime in July 2002 based on the discussions about interrogation methods Rice participated in with other White House officials.
FBI officials objected to the methods CIA interrogators used against Abu Zubaydah, according to previously released documents and testimony.
However, Rice wrote in response to a question from Levin that she did “not recall any specific discussions about withdrawing FBI personnel from the Abu Zubaydah interrogation.”
The Abu Zubaydah case was the first time that waterboarding was used against a prisoner in the “war on terror,” according to Pentagon and Justice Department documents, news reports and several books written about the Bush administration’s interrogation methods.
In his book “The One Percent Doctrine,” author Ron Suskind reported that President George W. Bush had become obsessed with Zubaydah and the information he might have about pending terrorist plots against the United States.
“Bush was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth,” Suskind wrote. Bush questioned one CIA briefer, “Do some of these harsh methods really work?”
The waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah was videotaped, but that record was destroyed in November 2005 after the Washington Post published a story that exposed the CIA’s use of so-called “black site” prisons overseas to interrogate terror suspects.
John Durham, an assistant US attorney in Connecticut, was appointed special counsel earlier this year to investigate the destruction of that videotape as well as destroyed film on other interrogations.
The latest disclosures by Rice undercut assertions by President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and other senior administration officials who have blamed cruel treatment of detainees on “a few bad apples” who acted on their own.
In June, Levin released dozens of pages of documents that detailed a pattern of humiliation, abuse and even torture inflicted on detainees was a deliberate policy of the Bush administration – debated by mid-level lawyers at the CIA and the Pentagon, given legal cover at the Justice Department and approved at the highest levels of government.
The Armed Services Committee’s 18-month investigation, which generated 38,000 pages of documents, singled out Rumsfeld and William “Jim” Haynes II, the Pentagon’s former general counsel, as the officials who sought guidance on implementing more aggressive interrogation methods.
The committee is expected to release a full report later this year. So far, the probe has found that Rumsfeld and Haynes solicited input from military psychologists in July 2002, months earlier than they had previously acknowledged, about developing harsh methods interrogators could use against detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.
The documents Levin released in June states that as early as July 2002, Rumsfeld, Haynes and other officials queried military psychologists about the use of waterboarding and other brutal methods to extract information that might not be gained through more conventional interrogations methods.
The questions from Rumsfeld and Haynes were raised one month before John Yoo, a deputy in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, issued two memos that authorized interrogators to use stress positions, military dogs and other still unknown methods against terror suspects at Guantanamo.
Bellinger said, in a separate memo to Levin, that Yoo participated in the meetings led by Rice and gave the CIA oral guidance on interrogation techniques.
The June documents did not square with previous statements made by Haynes, who testified in 2006 that the impetus for the harsh tactics came from below, from lower-level military personnel who asked the Pentagon in October 2002 about using more aggressive techniques against detainees.
Richard Shiffrin, Haynes’ former deputy on intelligence issues, told the Senate committee that in July 2002 Haynes became interested in using the SERE techniques, such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation, as a form of interrogation against detainees.
According to one document, Jonathan Fredman, chief counsel to the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center, discussed with U.S. military officials how interrogators could use the “wet towel” technique, also known as waterboarding, against detainees to extract information.
“It can feel like you’re drowning. The lymphatic system will react as if you’re suffocating, but your body will not cease to function,” Fredman said on Oct. 2, 2002, during a meeting where specific techniques were reviewed and debated, according to the meeting minutes.
Fredman added that the “wet towel” technique would only be defined as torture “if the detainee dies.”
“It is basically subject to perception,” Fredman said. “If the detainee dies you’re doing it wrong.”
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has admitted for the first time that she led high-level discussions beginning in 2002 with other senior Bush administration officials about subjecting suspected al-Qaeda terrorists detained at military prisons to the harsh interrogation technique known as waterboarding, according to documents released late Wednesday by Carl Levin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee.
Responding in writing to questions by Levin, who will convene a hearing today on the administration’s interrogation program, John B. Bellinger, Rice’s legal adviser at the State Department, said they recalled participating in meetings with Ashcroft and then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in July 2002 about an Army and Air Force survival training program called Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) meant to prepare U.S. soldiers for abuse they might suffer if captured by an outlaw regime.
Bellinger, who also worked with Rice at the NSC, the then National Security Adviser “expressed concern that the proposed CIA interrogation techniques comply with applicable U.S. law, including our international obligations” and that Rice asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to “personally review the legal guidance” of specific interrogation techniques.
In April, President George W. Bush told an ABC News reporter during an interview that he approved of meetings of a National Security Council’s Principals Committee, whose advisers included Vice President Dick Cheney, former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, former CIA Director George Tenet and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, where these officials discussed specific interrogation techniques the CIA could use against detainees.
Waterboarding—or simulated drowning–has been regarded as torture since the days of the Spanish Inquisition.
“I recall being told that U.S. military personnel were subjected in training to certain physical and psychological interrogation techniques and that these techniques had been deemed not to cause significant physical or psychological harm,” Rice wrote in response to a question about the SERE techniques.
But those techniques were meant to prepare U.S. soldiers for abuse they might suffer if captured by a brutal regime, not as methods for U.S. Interrogations, which is what Rice said the discussions at the White House centered on. Moreover, the SERE methods were first designed by the communist government of China to be used against U.S. soldiers.
The hearing Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee will focus on the genesis of the SERE techniques used during the interrogations of suspected terrorists.
Rice has denied that the U.S. tortured or abused prisoners. But in declaring the U.S. does not engage in torture, appears to be relying on a narrower U.S. definition of torture than that is accepted under international law, such as the 1984 Convention Against Torture that was signed by the Reagan administration in 1988 and ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1994.
“The threshold for torture is lower under international law: acts that do not amount to torture under U.S. law may do so under international law,” wrote Philippe Sands, law professor at University College London, in a column published in the Dec. 9, 2005, edition of The Financial Times.
“Waterboarding – strapping a detainee to a board and dunking him under water so he believes that he might drown – plainly constitutes torture under international law, even if it may not do so under U.S. law. …
“When the U.S. joined the 1984 convention it entered an ‘understanding’ on the definition of torture, to the effect that the international definition was to be read as being consistent with the U.S. definition The administration relies on the ‘understanding.’
“So, when Ms. Rice says the U.S. does not do torture or render people to countries that practice torture, she does not rely on the international definition. That is wrong: the convention does not allow each country to adopt its own definition, otherwise the convention’s obligations would become meaningless. That is why other governments believe the U.S. ‘understanding’ cannot affect U.S. obligations under the convention.”
There is ongoing debate as to whether the brutal interrogation techniques first used against a suspected terrorists predated an Aug. 1, 2002 legal opinion, widely called the “Torture Memo,” that provided CIA interrogators with the legal authority to use long-outlawed tactics, such as waterboarding, when interrogating so-called high-level terrorist suspects.
Neither Rice nor Bellinger provided dates about the discussions Rice led regarding interrogation methods. Additionally, Levin did not ask Rice whether Bush or Cheney participated in the talks.
In his book, “At the Center of the Storm”, former CIA Director George Tenet wrote that he attended a meeting with Rice in May 2001 where Tenet discussed how Abu Zubaydah, the alleged high-level al-Qaeda operative, planned to attack the US and Israel.
“For my regularly scheduled meeting with Condi Rice on May 30, [2001], I brought along [deputy CIA director] John McLaughlin, [then director of the CIA's counterterrorist center] Cofer Black, one of Cofer’s top assistants, Rich B. (Rich can’t be further identified here). Joining Condi were [former White House counterterrorism czar Richard] Clarke and [former CIA official] Mary McCarthy,” Tenet wrote. “Rich ran through the mounting warning signs of a coming attack. They were truly frightening. Among other things, we told Condi that a notorious al-Qa’ida operative named Abu Zubaydah was working on attack plans.”
Abu Zubaydah was captured in Pakistan less than a year later and was whisked to a secret CIA prison site in Thailand, where he was interrogated and subjected to waterboarding—believed to have taken place sometime in July 2002 based on the discussions about interrogation methods Rice participated in with other White House officials.
FBI officials objected to the methods CIA interrogators used against Abu Zubaydah, according to previously released documents and testimony.
However, Rice wrote in response to a question from Levin that she did “not recall any specific discussions about withdrawing FBI personnel from the Abu Zubaydah interrogation.”
The Abu Zubaydah case was the first time that waterboarding was used against a prisoner in the “war on terror,” according to Pentagon and Justice Department documents, news reports and several books written about the Bush administration’s interrogation methods.
In his book “The One Percent Doctrine,” author Ron Suskind reported that President George W. Bush had become obsessed with Zubaydah and the information he might have about pending terrorist plots against the United States.
“Bush was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth,” Suskind wrote. Bush questioned one CIA briefer, “Do some of these harsh methods really work?”
The waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah was videotaped, but that record was destroyed in November 2005 after the Washington Post published a story that exposed the CIA’s use of so-called “black site” prisons overseas to interrogate terror suspects.
John Durham, an assistant US attorney in Connecticut, was appointed special counsel earlier this year to investigate the destruction of that videotape as well as destroyed film on other interrogations.
The latest disclosures by Rice undercut assertions by President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and other senior administration officials who have blamed cruel treatment of detainees on “a few bad apples” who acted on their own.
In June, Levin released dozens of pages of documents that detailed a pattern of humiliation, abuse and even torture inflicted on detainees was a deliberate policy of the Bush administration – debated by mid-level lawyers at the CIA and the Pentagon, given legal cover at the Justice Department and approved at the highest levels of government.
The Armed Services Committee’s 18-month investigation, which generated 38,000 pages of documents, singled out Rumsfeld and William “Jim” Haynes II, the Pentagon’s former general counsel, as the officials who sought guidance on implementing more aggressive interrogation methods.
The committee is expected to release a full report later this year. So far, the probe has found that Rumsfeld and Haynes solicited input from military psychologists in July 2002, months earlier than they had previously acknowledged, about developing harsh methods interrogators could use against detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.
The documents Levin released in June states that as early as July 2002, Rumsfeld, Haynes and other officials queried military psychologists about the use of waterboarding and other brutal methods to extract information that might not be gained through more conventional interrogations methods.
The questions from Rumsfeld and Haynes were raised one month before John Yoo, a deputy in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, issued two memos that authorized interrogators to use stress positions, military dogs and other still unknown methods against terror suspects at Guantanamo.
Bellinger said, in a separate memo to Levin, that Yoo participated in the meetings led by Rice and gave the CIA oral guidance on interrogation techniques.
The June documents did not square with previous statements made by Haynes, who testified in 2006 that the impetus for the harsh tactics came from below, from lower-level military personnel who asked the Pentagon in October 2002 about using more aggressive techniques against detainees.
Richard Shiffrin, Haynes’ former deputy on intelligence issues, told the Senate committee that in July 2002 Haynes became interested in using the SERE techniques, such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation, as a form of interrogation against detainees.
According to one document, Jonathan Fredman, chief counsel to the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center, discussed with U.S. military officials how interrogators could use the “wet towel” technique, also known as waterboarding, against detainees to extract information.
“It can feel like you’re drowning. The lymphatic system will react as if you’re suffocating, but your body will not cease to function,” Fredman said on Oct. 2, 2002, during a meeting where specific techniques were reviewed and debated, according to the meeting minutes.
Fredman added that the “wet towel” technique would only be defined as torture “if the detainee dies.”
“It is basically subject to perception,” Fredman said. “If the detainee dies you’re doing it wrong.”
September 27th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
what a fucking nazi!
September 27th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
As far as i know i thought the taliban were fighting along side Osama against the Russians.
September 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
There’s Barrack Obama’s political adviser. In all his glory.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP
September 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Luke’s confrentation was great!
September 27th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
It is thie folly that is so well illustrated as truely FOLLY that wise, intellectually honest, decent men made certain to etch into a once GREAT Constitutional Republics beginnings and further existence that they found themselves a distinguished part of creating. Something that was created to last…as long as there are men to see to its care and preervation. ZB should be ashamed, truly ashamed, except that such a man hasn’t the capacity for it, and as such appears to haveno sole. Arrest these animals and try them for their parts in crimes that they KNEW would extinguish innocent life, property, and resources. Peace. RM
September 27th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
ZIT DOWN AN ZUT UP!!!!!
September 27th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
why is some foreign speaking language dude who cant pronounce his secret club correctly advising our leaders.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
September 28th, 2008 at 1:04 am
What Is “IT” that “ONLY” 1300 or 8477 people are RESPONDING to this Websites’ polls???? WTF OVER??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I’m telling you all right now…if we don’t do something…WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE!!!! You can run your chops…”It’s Over!!!!” Every motherfucker that has come to this site is NOW TOTALLY FUCKED!!! Myself included!!! “HOW MANY PEOPLE ‘ALEX’ ACTUALLY VISIT THIS SITE????” “Say it Goddamnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” I even buy your stuff!!!! Not receiveing burnt shit to push this ALL forward!!! WTF am I doing???? WTF AM I Doing??? Do you fuckin’ people have ANY idea how I can apply “Thermal Expansion” NOW??????????????????????????”
September 28th, 2008 at 4:58 am
Malcom not to be parnoid “BUT” even with great intentions this SITE can be used as a data collection point for Third Reich Land Security. Biggest worry is the freedoms granted to non-Americans…Israels who subvert our constition and rights. They work through close to a hundred different organizations in the USA (mostly non-profit) to gather information on American citizens who they deem a threat. Our CIA, Military has contracted out to them and they have plum postions and placements to rule us from the inside out. But here is the kicker, they will soon not have a country to bleed dry. The whole world system will soon go down in a slow economic spiral and at this very point just like in Germany, monsters will be spawned just like Hitler, Genghis Khan, Stalin all through the ages. But at this point they created not only a holocaust for themselves but the whole planet. I wish i could seem some redeeming qualities in these driven people.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:37 am
This wonderful man ZIG HEIL BRZEZINSKI and his kosher friend Kissenger have been around too very long killing off people on this planet. While they swill their expensive wines, consume their lobsters all over some dinner, all the while discussing Sun Tzu’s (ART OF WARFARE ) and who they can get to kosher butcher native people in another country for their resources. These people work for the international bankers and it is all about control of resources.
MALCOM is right on about this place being a Honey Trap…at this point the whole things implodes, $700 billion dollar bailout to the rich which will pump start Wall Street until the next crisis. Less than two months from now our jewish friends will be asking the goys for a couple trillion dollars to straighten out the derivative mess. So it will be one crisis after another eventually leading to a kosher slaughter of mankind… Point being MALCOM the honey trap will not matter when there is nothing to govern. This point in history is a classic example to what happened in Germany….unbridled greed that swept the Jews and then took them down into the ABYSS…this time everyone has some blame Chinese, Japs, Europeans, Blacks, Whites, Jews all have been swept away by materialism. Economic Shit Storm Category 5 leading to famine and wars
September 28th, 2008 at 5:42 am
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS……IT IS OVER……WE CAN PRAY THERE IS A GOD
September 28th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Zbig’s life of lies goes on….
September 28th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Brz is such a warm, wonderful human being, no? I mean, the warmth just oozes out his pours.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
And as far as this site being a honey trap, oh yeah, it would have to be. The #1 site for resistance to the government, and they’re not monitoring it? Forget it, you know they are.
That puts us all on some list or another. Cool, eh? As a kid I never thought that my country would be like the USSR, but here we are. It’s now common knowledge, almost accepted as ‘the way of things’, for a government goon to monitor your personal things. We’re almost used to the idea.
No, we’re not supposed to notice the police state coming on. Just relax and let it happen, it will be over soon. Like swallowing bitter medicine when you were a kid, it’s for our GOOD. The ever increasing behemoth government is our benefactor.
Mr. Snoopy Spook man reading all my stuff, do you realize just what you are doing? Actually spying on your own. Why? These people and I are no criminals. We are not violent nor do we advocate violence. What’s up? Are you a Christian? Ahhh, we both know the answer to that one, now don’t we?
September 28th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Bilder group! => builder group! => the freemasons like to call themselves the “Builders”!
September 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Typhoon,
Your theory sounds nice, but is incorrect.
Bilder Group is a derivation of Bilderberg Group
Bilderberg is a family name, wich is german voor “Watchmountain”, in Spanish it’s “Montevideo”. I don’t know the exact English translation.
Bilder is NOT derived of Builder. This is nonsense.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Great job to We Are Change!
Standing up to tyranny,which we all can take lessons from!
Mr. I created the base aka the al cia dia is very bad news!
And to know he runs the obama campaign,makes it worse.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
The high freemasons are 1 class moron RECKERS of everything they touch the absolute dumbest in the world thats why they hire everyone do do all of it.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
#31 Good, let all those who stand for the Most High God be on their list.
After all, WE’VE ALREADY BEEN ON THEIR LIST OUR WHOLE LIVES.
Their shenanigans brought me here. So would I expect any less?
FEAR THE JUSTICE OF GOD – NOT THE LOSER LUCIFER AND HIS MINIONS!
September 29th, 2008 at 3:43 am
Bilderberg is a family name, wich is german voor “Watchmountain”, in Spanish it’s “Montevideo”. I don’t know the exact English translation.
the german translation for Bilderberg is “picturesmountain” or like “pile of pictures”.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:50 am
How do we know that ZB is a bilderberger. -We dont. We know he is a intenationalist, but not bilderberger. We know he is in many way in the opposition too Bush/McCain fraction, to the Iran war and a little more. Although the bilderbeger are split on Iran, I dont think the american fraction are split on it. -I think maybe he isnt alowed inside the bilderberger.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:17 am
We are Change are decent men and women of the north american continent.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:24 am
Looks like the only lesson the American government learned from the Vietnam War is that Freedom of Speech is a bad thing. Not the evil of provoking a bloody and painful war, not the trouncing of our founding principles, but our constitutionally GUARANTEED RIGHT to Freedom of Speech. Also as far as the monied interests in America go, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again- Bilderberg HATES us for our Freedoms~