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We Are Change Confronts NAU Minion Vicente Fox
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Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
February 15, 2008
In this interview with Mexico’s former president, Vicente Fox, conducted by Luke Rudkwowski of We Are Change, we get more hum and haw about the inevitability of the North American Union. Fox insists little to nothing is happening in regard to the original the Security and Prosperity Partnership game plan, initiated by Bush, Fox, and former Canadian Premier Paul Martin in 2005. Bush considers Americans concerned about the SPP and the NAU as little more than conspiracy nuts, never mind those transnational highways going in all over Texas.
Rudkwowski mentioned these highways to Vicente Fox and the former president of Coca-Cola in Latin America waved his hands dismissively. Nothing to do with Mexico or any grand conspiracy, declared Fox, never mind TxDOT (Texas Department of Transportation) met with Mexican transportation officials to discuss corridor connections and extensions into Mexico (see a map of the routes here). If we are to believe Fox, he is clueless about NASCO, the North America SuperCorridor Coalition Inc., Kansas City SmartPort Inc., or the fact TxDOT is overseeing the Trans-Texas Corridor as the first leg of the NAFTA Super Highway. Fox would have us believe he is unaware of the documented fact the KCSmartPort facility will by necessity be considered Mexican territory, as revealed by Joyce Mucci, the founder of the Mid-America Immigration Reform Coalition, under the provisions of the Missouri Sunshine Law from the City of Kansas City, Mo., and from the Missouri Department of Economic Development.
Of course, Fox was playing a disingenuous game with Luke. In his recently published book, Revolution of Hope, Fox relates a statement he made to President Bush and then Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien: “I proposed a… plan to… move us toward a single continental economic union, modeled on the European example.”
John Vinson, editor of American for Immigration Control, adds: “He then related that ‘Bush shot the idea down.’ Was it because he disagreed with it? Apparently not, as more information will show. Fox added that, the White House informed him (in Fox’s words) that ‘life would be easier’ if he stopped ‘raising hackles’ by discussing a North American Union.”
And just what did Bush and Fox agree upon? During an interview on CNN’s Larry King Live [see video below], Fox stated, “Long term, very long term, what we proposed together, President Bush and myself, [was] a trade union for all the Americas.” King then asked if this union, of not just North America, but presumably South America too, would have a common currency “like the euro” the currency of the European Union. Fox replied, “Well, that would be long, long term.” He then added that progress toward that goal would have to be incremental steps.
What Fox described sounds quite similar to the strategy that brought about the European Union. Its proponents at first stressed that they were only seeking more cooperation in trade and other matters. Not until much later did they reveal their agenda for a common parliament and a common currency.
Without a doubt, powerful interests want greater integration of the three countries. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in New York City accurately describes its membership as leaders in key sectors of American society. In 2005, at almost exactly the same time as the SPP unveiling, the CFR, published a document entitled, “Building a North American Community.” In testimony before Congress, a key author of that document, Professor Robert Pastor of American University, stated that the U.S., Canada and Mexico must move beyond “an outdated conception of sovereignty.”
As Jerome Corsi notes, Fox would have used a microphone to broadcast the plan. “Evidently, George Bush forgot to brief Vicente Fox before he began his book tour,” Corsi told WorldNetDaily. “Just give Vicente Fox a microphone. That’s the best way to bring the SPP out of the shadows and expose the real conspirators, George Bush and Vicente Fox, not those of us who are pointing to government websites and asking questions,” the latter little more than conspiracy nuts, according to Bush.
“In his book, Fox is open in his support for globalism and his determination to create a North American Union, Corsi said, pointing out he portrays Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez as the villain who blocked the North American Union plan,” concludes WND.
On page 317 of his book, Fox writes: “At summits I took every opportunity to advocate clearly for free-market policies; showing what sound economics could do to fund social justice; arguing for globalism, NAFTA and the Free Trade Area of the Americas.”
Now? Fox is reticent, especially with a determined We Are Change on the case. Change is essentially a flea in the mix and, as Bush and the globalists would have it, little more than a noisome conspiracy mental case bothering a great man during one of his many important events.
Of course in Bushzarro world and that of the ruling elite — who are determined to reduce the planet to a slave labor gulag based on the China model — people who know the truth and have the cajones to speak it are to be swiped aside as crackpots. It is a tactic that works far less effectively than it did a mere three or four years ago, before the popularity of YouTube and the easy availability if online video.
Fox’s lies, likely a response to Bush’s admonition, will not fly — not with Luke Rudkwowski and We Are Change around and this video to be soon enough linked and archived all over the internet.
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February 15th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
at least…the VERY least….Vicente gave Luke some time….but sounds like he’s just practicing his pro-spp speech.
February 15th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Rudowski is far more polite to this globalist leech than I would have been. Fox is reticent about the plans of the globalists, and unashamedly bold in his admiration for the plan to create a North American Union. He and his minions in the SPP want the entire continent reduced to a neofeudalsitic society of serfs. They must be stopped. America must not go the way of tyranny.
February 16th, 2008 at 12:25 am
God bless you Luke.
great job brother.
everyone donate on Feb. 16th to 1stResponders1st.com
step up to do what’s right and become your own leader.
We Are CHANGE.
– nate (Rhode Island)
February 16th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Take notes people, being rude will get you thrown out. Luke was polite and therefore was able to conduct an impressive impromptu interview that gives us new information to disect, as opposed to standing up and screaming, then getting tossed out.
February 16th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Sorry, I just don’t see the point of interviewing a devil. How about a video looking through some expensive “optics” before, during and after making a devil go bye bye, eh thumbalina?
February 16th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Uh, check the details Kurt, Canada’s head of government is a prime minister, not a premier.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:00 am
Great Job Luke! Expose ´em by asking the right question which force them to come out with the truth. And always be polite, that´s the way to go.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:34 am
This old satanist is one of the reasons why people are desperately running from their home land….he is directly responsable for countless thousands of deaths of the Mexican People
( beaners) I have a little beaner Grand Son….God He is Wonderful…God how I Love that Beautiful little boy….I almost went to jail twice from fighting the eugenicist’s racially spacific vaccines off Him…I call Him, Jesus Elvis America…Hes 4 months old….he gots a little tooth on the bottom too…I feed Him sweet potatoes….threw my tears
Way to redeem the devil’s power, Luke
February 16th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Canada wide anti-SPP protests TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 16th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Another sly lying FOX
February 16th, 2008 at 6:22 am
That’s how it’s done. No need to shout or be rude. You never get answers that way. You just end up looking like a nutcase.
Nice job Luke.
February 16th, 2008 at 6:30 am
As hard as it was to hear Luke say”God bless you”, I instantly realized, that was exactly what he needed to say. That is OUR only protection from the New World Order. Pray for these leaders to have a change of heart and reveal the evil plans. There are whistleblowers everywhere, that is half the power of revelation. The other half, is the strong aggressive investigative reporting done by all of you and others. Men like Alex Jones and Hashems Productions are nothing less than angellic. Down to the power of BIG GOVERNMENT. I am really begining to CHANGE my support mechanisms from Barack Obama to Ron Paul. I can’t support a politician who does not publicly express contempt for the New World Orders agendas. God save us from tyranny and deception. Defeat the Antichrist movement of world tyranny and oppression. Fuck AMEN. He was an Egyptian god, not, “Let it be”, as we have been lead to believe.
February 16th, 2008 at 7:27 am
What I have come to realize with the “majority” of people is the following;
1) They get all there news from mainstream media
There afraid to think differently because of what the majority of people would think
2) They make up, from there own fogged up minds, what they believe is going on
4) They don’t believe there leaders could be evil, despite all the history
5) They trust there leaders to do as they please, often without questioning
6) They are afraid of there leaders
7) They care only for there own life styles
9) They don’t think they can make a differance, so why bother to find out, leave alone act
10) They like the world as it is and are not worried about the future
11) They don’t believe it could happen to them
12) They are completely unable to see beneath the surface of things
Gullible, Naive,Arrogant,brainwashed, often stupid, call it what you want, but it is what it is.
This is why history will repeat itself and the elites plan will march on
February 16th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Nice job Luke, but I dont think you need to tell him “God bless you” LOL
These people worship Lucifer!
February 16th, 2008 at 7:46 am
ACL bravo my man. There comes a time when people need to realize, at least those who are in the know, that doing nothing but talking isn’t going to do a bit of good period. The reason is you can not talk logic at someone who is irrational, especially the members of the NWO. Obviously they know what they are doing (higher ups) so why remind them they are pieces of shit verbally? The more you talk to them about it, the more they laugh at you because there you are knowing what is going on but they still have your mind, because althought you know what they are capable of you do not take any actions against it. The media has you believing doing anything about it is terrorism, instead of patriotism. I say fuck that, those in the know should do something about it otherwise you will see a further decline into facism/corporatism. We will see the deterioration of our country bit by bit, first our civil rights and constitution will be shredded altogether, the prison industrial complex will rise to such an unthinkable height, the military industrial complex will take over to such an extent you do not know where the police end and the military begins, and you will see some people you know thrown away like a sack of shit because they have a brain and some intelligence, and in the future Im talking about being intelligent and having an IQ over 135 will be a crime and frowned upon. If you aren’t willing to do anything for your country and it’s citizens this will be your future and you will be to blame. Can you blame those who are so ignorant and dumbed down by the media and public school system, after all they really dont know. Or would you say those who actually knew what was going on and did nothing are more to blame? They knew what was going on and the possible consequences of inaction and yet they did nothing. Your choice. Regards,
T.L.
February 16th, 2008 at 7:57 am
At least this guy was actually prepared to talk about it and not look around at security and others to keep Luke from speaking.
I am pretty sure that the “Thank you so much, you’re a gentleman” and “God bless you” was just gratitude at this guy blurting out so much. Now Alex and others can directly quote Fox when pushing more evidence of the Trans Texas corridor, SPP etc.
All this talk about religion does my head in. Until I see Mr Fox at an altar sacrificing a fresh faced virgin in the name of the devil I think it ridiculous to start accusing people of worshipping Lucifer, Satan, Pan, Baal or Molech.
Can we just stick to what is provable because shit like that seriously damages credibility in this movement.
February 16th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Eric was like a gnat on horse poop. He would’nt go away, and he got what he needed. Nice job!
February 16th, 2008 at 8:22 am
I’M READY TO HANG EVERY POLITICAN INVOLVED WITH THIS LIKE OBAMA,CLINTON,MC CAIN……ETC THERE ALL INVOLVED
GREAT JOB LUKE!!!!!!
February 16th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Vicente Fox never lied.
“God bless you and have a safe trip home.. ”
Yep, bend over Luke.
hahah
February 16th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Paul Kwiatkowski here, I am from Toledo, Ohio and I live in Acapulco, Guerrero fluent in both languages and available to aid in translating/interpreting for those seeking dialogue between the USA and Mexico. I work for no man nor government.
I believe that here in the USA as well as in any country in the world the individual is and shall be free and sovereign entities unto themselves and let no man nor monster dictate otherwise
in toledo 419-206-6586 paulkwiatkowski@mexico.com
LA BANDA MANDA
Homies Rule
February 16th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Where is the evidence? when did Vicente confirmed that the highways being built is trilateral government joint venture?
I like the way Vicente responded Luke’s question about sovereignty.
February 16th, 2008 at 9:57 am
I’m a believer in the NAU conspiracy. I am also sympathetic to poor Mexicans. Maybe, like Vincente openly stated in the video, the NAU would be good for both countries. But, I believe the debate about it should be and can be an open one. This whole back room bullshit is what I and I think most people hate. We dont have to give up our sovereignty for improved Mexican/American relations. If we just stuck to our constitution things would organically be better for the US, Canada, and Mexico.
February 16th, 2008 at 11:51 am
I like very much the politeness and the response of former President Vincente Fox and he shows class and dignity unlike GW Bush and others. He responded very well to the young man asking the questions and not pushed aside and insulted the way Bush and Harper have done. I have a lot of respect for the former president of Mexico Vincente Fox. Even when he spoke with Larry King he showed class. If the NAU was good for our three countries and extended with the others but we kept our own sovereignities that would be ok but not to give up our sovereignities. This should not be hidden behind closed doors but told to the public at large what is going on. Mr. Fox shows himself as a real leader and not artificial stupidies like the others.
February 16th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Why do you think that Texas was the chosen State for the SPP/NAU Superhighway rather than the other USA-Mexican border States?
Texas is the only State which has the unilateral Right to opt out of the Union of the United States of America according to the Constitution of the State of Texas. This was a prevailing factor and condition for Texas to enter into the Union in the first place.
If there was a general vote to opt out of the Union due to what is taking place, the People of Texas could opt out if they so wished under those stipulations.
Why bother having that stipulation in the State Constitution if you don’t think you could ever exercise that Right of Secession? A Contract of this nature has paramount claim over any other Contract that comes thereafter…
Then, Nationalization of the Highways by Texas could be implemented, and could slow the process of the NAU. That would force the Illuminazis to find other routes to further their agenda.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
It’s the same with installing the rocket defence system in Poland and Czech Republic. People were kept in the dark almost all the time and we (the public) still haven’t received any details of what our governments put us into. Even though both nations were against foreign bases on our soil the globalist scums decided for us. Those who voiced concerns were ignored. The politicians – lowlife scums – didn’t even visit the places where the bases are supposed to be and didn’t talk to the public. This should open people’s eyes to how the very governments paid with their tax money treats them.
When Poland entered NATO there was a spoken agreement that there will be no foreign bases here. Apparently a spoken agreement is worth nothing because it’s not signed on paper and everybody decided to forget about it. There are also spoken promises that the system won’t be used against Russia and that’s all they can give to Putin who is very disturbed but what’s happening. See where this is going?…
There is no potential benefits and we’re only pissing off our neighbours. An argument that this should protect us from Iran or North Korea is one of the most preposterous things I’ve heard in the last years. When the bases stand on our territory then Russian rockets will be targeting us and this system has no chance of stopping their rockets. Putin knows those bases are harmless to Russia but it’s also making NATO stronger at Russia’s gates. There have been even some tough discussions about the Ukraine joining NATO which would only add insult to injury. I doubt NATO will go down in the Ukraine and their president even considers amending their constitution to ban any potential NATO bases on their soil. What really worries me is what happens when the rockets in US bases can be addapted to carry offensive warheads and this “it’s only a defence system” fairy tale goes down the toilet. So far the US negotiators like Gates don’t really do anything to appease the Russians. Yesterday Putin gave a really harsh speech condemning the West for such careless actions.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
from we are change charlotte, luke that was great! i do like the way vicente fox handled himself
February 16th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
The Road To Hell is Built By Good Intentions, well at least metaphorically true for making the case to justify the North American Union.
Didn’t we hear the same arguments for justifying “Free Trade” and “Globalism?”
But for the sake being overtly simplistic, Vicente Fox seemed to be a lot more civil and well-mannered than Norman Podhoretz, the warmongering neo-conservative, and his wicked brethren, Bill Clinton.
February 16th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Globalist bastards…..oh yeah thats me, but you can’t catch me Alex.
February 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
At least Vincente Fox is not lying about the NAU. Unlike, the scum President, and members of the Senate and House of Representatives.
February 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Putin is with them too!!!!now whan you call emergeny in Russia you dial 911!!!THEY CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT JOINING EU.!!!!I’AM GOING TO PUKE NOW!!!!
February 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
comment 22 vote ron paul 08!
February 16th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
No boarder checks. If you think there is an immigration problem now …
February 16th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I think everyone should take that first video with luke and vicente and use it as
an example on properly approaching leaders in an articulate and respectful
manner. If you ask questions in an outlandish manner like the we are change
and 9/11 truthers groups tend to do (i.e. screaming at people, harassing them,etc.)
it makes you look like a nut and detracts any kind of merit that the movement has.
nice job luke
February 16th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Luke did a great job. but i do think that the “hostile confrontation” also servers a purpose…letting these politicians know that they are accountable. Fox doesnt have to account for his actions and he gave us some great information, but keep up everything. I dont think the Changers look like nuts
February 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Is that why TXDOT is broke and can’t fix or build new highways to relieve congestion in areas desperately needing it?? (Austin!!)
February 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Luke Rudowsky and Matt Lepacek and the rest of the people at WE ARE CHANGE ore one of the brightest things to come out of this surprisingly dark decade.
I can see they’re getting more and more skilled all the time. But there is a time for an activist approach as well as the gentlemanly approach. Luke’s intervention at the Zbig Brezhynsky speech in NY was a classic, right down to him running away from the rent a goons, or Matt getting arrested for talking to Ghouliani’s campaign manager.
You may be gadflies but I believe you guys played a key role in taking down that lying scum sucker. Remember him? The unassailable front runner? Thanks to Matt, Luke and all the others that took him on, he ain’t no front runner no more…
I look forward to McCain meeting the same fate.
Good job guys.
Please accept my humble thanks.
February 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
well i give vincent this hes more honest and forth coming then his , buddies are , i like that anyway
February 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
checkout youtube ” fort mcmurray charter” i get beat down by the rcmp
February 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Vincente Fox as president is just doing what he thinks is better for his people. The NAU would be terrible for the United States but it would be great for Mexico. That’s propably why he’s so forthcoming becuase he’s just trying to do what best for his country while other people know it would terrible for the USA and hide in the shadows because of it.
February 16th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
I’m glad that Luke was respectful. If Fox had acted in complete denial or refused any discussion, an aggressive stance may have been appropriate. But in this situation Fox not only gave an “interview” but he seemed forthcoming with information. Perhaps he is lying scum or maybe he is just misguided. The important thing is that hostilities were not necessary in this encounter.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:32 am
nice job luke, pretty soon cnn will be calling you offering you a slot. haha.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Why is it that these videos are now no longer available on youtube?
February 17th, 2008 at 12:50 am
no, a hostile confrontation serves little to no purpose. the best part about the kind of confrontation luke exhibited here is that other people in the audience who never heard of the things that luke was asking about will now go and hopefully educate themselves. even if its just 1 person, its 1 more person who will spread the word. why? because he was taken seriously, like he deserves.
when you make a complete ass of yourself by shouting like a child, then nobody is going to take you serious, and i dont blame them. heres your chance to talk to one of these loyal plastic robots, and you blow it by looking foolish and getting thrown out. no, choose your words carefully and present yourself like an adult.
February 17th, 2008 at 4:28 am
Luke,
I agree with othe comments that Luke asked exellent questions and displayed manners like a true
gentleman while conducting the interview while walking with the former President.
Just one question I’d like to ask: Where was security while Luke walked with Vicente?
I found that to be very strange while watching Luke walk shoulder to shoulder with
the former President of Mexico. WOW!
February 17th, 2008 at 5:13 am
well,
i am very very happy that luke actually got to ask what he wanted to ask.
this was a very rare situation. fox comes off as definitely not an insider in
the NWO. period. the lack of security or great fear from fox shows he is
not an insider.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
consolodation debt for consolodation and debt