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What “incredibly tough” foreign policy actions is Obama preparing?
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Patrick Martin
Information Clearing House
October 25, 2008
In remarks made over the weekend in Seattle, Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden warned that Barack Obama, if elected president, would be compelled to take deeply unpopular actions in both domestic and foreign policy within months of taking office.
In closed-door gatherings with two audiences of Democratic Party insiders and fundraisers, Biden forecast a major international crisis in the first six months of an Obama administration.
He compared Obama to John F. Kennedy, the last senator to be elected president. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy,” Biden said. “The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
Biden mentioned the Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Korea and Russia as potential points of conflict, but did not spell out the exact nature of such a crisis, observing, “I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate.” He made it clear that Obama would respond forcefully: “They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine.”
The most politically significant portion of Biden’s remarks came when he admitted that the decisions of an Obama-Biden administration were likely to be deeply unpopular, and he called on the Democratic Party regulars to stand behind the new president even when public opinion turned against him.
“He’s going to need help,” Biden said. “He’s going to need you—not financially to help him—we’re going to need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not going to be apparent initially, it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
He continued, “There are going to be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision.’ Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”
Here is the voice of a longtime representative of the financial aristocracy, voicing his contempt for public opinion—”if decisions are popular, they’re probably not sound”—and warning his wealthy audience that the new Obama-Biden administration will have to defy public opinion to carry out its policies. Biden’s language suggests that the ferocity of the new administration’s response will shock not only public opinion, but even its own supporters.
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In that context, one must point out Biden’s suggestions that nuclear weapons might play a role in one or more of the potential crises. A nuclear-armed Korean Peninsula could lead to “Japan as a nuclear power,” he said, which could push China into expanding its nuclear weaponry. The Pakistan-Afghanistan border is “crawling with Al Qaeda” and “Pakistan is already bristling with nuclear weapons, all of which can hit Israel.” Biden also noted Iran’s alleged drive to build a nuclear weapon.
Foreign policy journals and pundits linked to the Democratic Party have undoubtedly been discussing many such doomsday scenarios, and Biden’s language suggests that the use of the US nuclear arsenal, the world’s largest, is under consideration by those who are formulating the foreign and military policy of an Obama-Biden administration.
Biden himself has been one of the most hawkish on foreign policy among leading congressional Democrats, backing the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and advocating a US-led military intervention in Darfur. During the Democratic presidential primary campaign, he was the most vociferous of all the candidates in denouncing antiwar protest groups seeking a cutoff of funds for the war in Iraq.
Biden’s expectation of widespread popular hostility to an Obama administration applies not only to foreign and military policy, but to domestic policy. He told the Seattle audience, “I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?’ We’re going have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years.”
The Democratic candidate did not spell out the exact nature of these “incredibly tough decisions,” other than to refer to the financial and economic crisis and two wars being bequeathed by the Bush administration to its successor.
In the wake of these blunt and ominous comments, there have been disingenuous attempts to explain them away from both parties.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain seized on the suggestion that foreign enemies might seek to test an inexperienced President Obama, citing his own military and foreign policy expertise going back more than 50 years. Right-wing pundits went further, suggesting, as one put it, that “Biden is forecasting inaction by Obama in the face of testing by a dictator.”
This interpretation is preposterous, especially given Biden’s own record as a fervent supporter of US military intervention. Obama’s selection of the Delaware senator as his running mate was itself an effort to reassure the political establishment of his commitment to defend the interests of American imperialism by military force.
The Obama campaign sought to shrug off Biden’s remarks as a mere historical generalization, triggered by the Obama-Kennedy analogy, not a prediction of impending crisis. A campaign spokesman said Biden was referring to Kennedy’s confrontation with Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev in summit talks in Vienna, a few months after he took office—although these talks took place after a US military provocation—the invasion of Cuba by US-trained exiles who were defeated at the Bay of Pigs.
An Obama administration would not be an “innocent abroad,” picked on by dictators out to “test the mettle” of a US president. American imperialism continues from administration to administration, Democratic or Republican. If elected, Obama will take office heading the world’s largest military machine, engaged in violent provocations in dozens of countries, any of which could flare up unexpectedly, especially under the impact of the deepening world economic crisis.
Obama won the Democratic presidential nomination by presenting himself as the more consistent antiwar candidate, and the Democratic ticket in public pledges to end the war in Iraq and adopt a less militaristic stance. But behind closed doors, before select audiences of the financial and political elite, Biden has given a glimpse of the real perspective of the Democratic wing of American imperialism.
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October 25th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
sometimes its hard to wake up sheep, but something will.
October 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
if obama wins this country will become more and more Like Sodom and gomrorah
Dont know what sodom and gomorra was like?
read Genesis 18 and 19
Gen 18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
Gen 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
Gen 18:22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.
Gen 18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
Gen 18:24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
Gen 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Gen 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
Gen 18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:
Gen 18:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
Gen 18:29 And he spoke unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.
Gen 18:30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.
Gen 18:31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake.
Gen 18:32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.
Gen 18:33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
Gen 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
Gen 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
Gen 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Gen 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
Gen 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Gen 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
Gen 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
Gen 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides a son-in-law, and thy sons, and thy daughters? and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.
Gen 19:14 And Lot went out, and spoke unto his sons-in-law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons-in-law.
Gen 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
Gen 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
Gen 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
Gen 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
Gen 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast showed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
Gen 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
Gen 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
Gen 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
Gen 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
Gen 19:27 And Abraham got up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:
Gen 19:28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
Gen 19:29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
October 25th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
This is where the elite play the phsycology game, and the sheeps in this country keep getting fooled. in 2000 Bush JR ran as a compasionate conservative againts using our army as ocupations in other countries, and engage in unnessary wars, but after took power he did a 180, basically the opposite. Obama will do the same, The international bankers are not finish using the mighty american army to do their dirty jobs, and that is why they will not sink this country in the next 4 years, because they need it to do their dirty jobs against, Russia, china, Pakistan, North Korea, Venezuela, and of course Iran. This is a chess game so until America destroy those countries that I mentioned they will not crash the economy completely.
One they finished Using america to destroy those countries, they will drestroy America.
October 25th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
#1 Did Alex say he was? Because if he didn’t then you’re just posting crap with zero basis.
This article brings an interesting point. I would guess a month or two after the election. Perhaps an economic collapse? One can only hope, as this economy is already dead, just the EKG is still plugged in.
October 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
You really should watch this particular video concerning Obama’s tax policy…it is too friggin’ hilarious if it weren’t so sad as well…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
October 25th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
You religious nuts have got to read some other books. These religious documents were drawn up men. Get it? Men made this stuff up to control other men.
Sounds like an economic depression or a nuclear offensive attack on the part of the U.S.
Appocolyptic? Yes.
Biblical? Yes.
Impossible to see without a religious foundation? Hardley.
As Webster Tarpley says these people are “neo-con fascist madmen.” You don’t need a Bibble to think for yourself for a change. All of these crazy leaders go to Church, Synagogue and Mosques so that when they send your sons and daughters out for slaughter they can tell you that they went to Vallhalla, I mean Heaven when they come back dead.
This is common sense.
October 25th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
It doesn’t mater who’s elected McCain or Oboma, things are not to change for the better.
I was a little more comfortable with Obama until I heard Bidens quote, not any more.
Of course the only worthy candidate was the man Doctor Ron Paul.
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Whats with the hokey quote? Why do the most religious extremists out there love Sodom and Gomorrah so much? The earth isn’t six thousand years old. If your a devout Christian pay more attention to the new testament and stop taking things so literally. I’m not religious my self but i do respect everyones right to believe what they will and all, but COME ON.
October 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Ok, I’m going to try this one more time….
I use to really like this site.I feel lately that it promotes hate which I really think is the plan.
You see I think they all want us to be at odds wth one another,and what better way to do it than to have a black man run a white woman and a Bush clone.
No matter who wins they have a civil war in the streets. YEAH– marshall law is inforced HE gets to stay dictator and we all loose.
So might I sugest that we all stick together, don’t get mad no matter who is picked by the choosen ones.
Embrace your neighbors black,white, brown, pink and blue tell them what really happened and march. Take back the country and gather as many as you can on the way. THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE!
Alex is promoting a lot of hate and racism lately, it makes me sad and makes me wonder why. I haven’t seema single McCain thing in weeks.
I’m white and I can see through the BS, I will still read this site because it tells the future. It also tries to direct the masses in the direction it was ment to. HUMM
Learn from the past. Don’t hurt each other because of our differences. we can only win together.
In the past they knew we would kill one another in the streets..Over race religion, gay or straight
they know they have us all based on prejudice.
The October surprise is really the November surprise no matter who wins we will fight in the streets. and if that doesn’t work steal the votes tha’s sure to piss the retards off– HELLO
Black man-vice woman-Bush clone-fixed election- crashed economy- no retirement-abortion-legal gay marriage-(did I forget anything?) sure to piss off the masses and YEAH we get a– YOU guessed it (NWO.)
THE END.
October 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
#3 thinks America will become a bunch of gay rapists! with all the crap on TV i guess i can’t blame ya but again, come on!
October 25th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
in the bible, when the word lord is spelled in all capitol letters “LORD” versus “Lord” the all capitol spelling means Jehovah or Yahway and the other spelling refers to the christ, a little note for “Jesus is LORD”
October 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Ok, so…..if all the governments fail worldwide I will be happy. The greedy politicians worldwide need to fall. We, the people are in need of spirituality to save us. Remember, believe in your core beliefs, believe in God and Christ to lead us not a mere mortals. Love your family, friends and lead. Forget the ideologies we have been taught and believe in yourself. There are many that agree with you. It’s ok if our economy fails as we need to be brought back to reality. Christ taught us that Earthly posessions our evil, our government is evil and many things are changing. We will prevail, we, the people, are in charge. Lead you community and protect your freedoms. Love your neighbor and believe in your morals. God bless us all and protect us from the evils that lie ahead.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:06 am
You should watch this Documentary http://www.moviesfoundonline.c.....dendum.php it about sums it all up, it hits on a lot of excellent points.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:25 am
The only thing Obama could do to earn respect is to close down ‘the Federal Reserve’ and try all the govt. and banksters for treason … if he does that then I’ll be supportive , for short awhile anyway … The Constitution of the United States of America MUST be held INTACT at all costs !! ‘dare to persevere’
October 26th, 2008 at 1:11 am
I love all the religious zealots that post on this sight. It’s pitiful that they live IN a religion and foster their own private interpretations of who God is or isn’t. Actually, if they had a true relationship with God (that’s Jesus Christ for the uninitiated) they would realize that religion is a sham! It’s a bunch of have to’s and shall not’s and traditions and rules that are the furthest thing from reality! There’s absolutely nothing apart from your relationship to God that will make Him love you more or love you less. All YOUR righteousness is as filthy rags. Dudes…if you don’t want religion, I suggest you repent (turn from evil and sin) confess to Him that you are powerless to save your own soul and ask forgiveness for the wretched sinner that you are, ask Jesus to save you from spiritual death and hell. It’s THAT simple. Anything else is stupid religion. It doesn’t work. “For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.” God will fill your heart and give your life meaning and purpose. No its not easy, but the alternative is death and seperation forever.
John 3:18
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
The time is now, drop religion and get your heart right before all this bad stuff comes down on the world!!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 1:31 am
Enough with the religious crap! DROP IT! This is way off topic. Who cares if your religious or atheist stop preaching your beliefs and get back on topic!
October 26th, 2008 at 2:45 am
I think a lot of people who post religious stuff don’t really come across as being really intelligent. However, I will say that Revelations says that there is coming a war that will kill 1/3 of all the people on the planet (currently over 2 billion people). The kicker is that it says that it starts that the Euphrates. Anyone know where that is?
October 26th, 2008 at 4:28 am
Idiots your so called “JESUS” IS A FALSE PROPHET/ENTITY!.He doesnt exist and never has.If you know the Egyptian hyrogliphics the original so called JESUS name was HORUS!!!Born,died,& resurrected on the same day!Google the name HORUS and i guarantee your gonna see what im telling you is true.Jesus is bulls---!!!The belief in 1 god is called MONOTHEISM.Religion was created to have mind control over you.Its main purpose is to make you feel GUILTY of anything the rich think is wrong! EXAMPLE:stealing what they supposedly own.If people dont feel guilty of anything ,these rich power hungry people would never be able to take power.If religion is so “sacred” why do military personal kill w/o hesitation?Im talking about military warfare thats been waged since man first created villages thousands of years ago to our present day “NATIONS”.Stop being fooled people WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 4:31 am
whoever the next U.s. prez is, he will be the one overseeing the demise of the U.S. empire. This,obviously, is not going to go down very well with amerikains in general. I dont tnink god gives a s--- one way or the other.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:41 am
Wow… What the hell are you talking about I think you are kidding right? lol. Are these comments ever gonna go back on topic
October 26th, 2008 at 4:44 am
sorry not tim i was was referring to RevFredPhelps
October 26th, 2008 at 5:24 am
Atheists and their hatred; what a joke! Always attacking those that happen to believe Jesus. Such anger arises in you at the mention of his name or anything related to Christianity. I wonder if pounce on the opportunity to ATTACK muslims for believing in Islam, Buddists, Scientologists, or New Agers? I bet they don’t bother you in the least! YOU GUYS CONTINUE ON; YOU ARE SO VERY ENTERTAINING!!!
October 26th, 2008 at 5:27 am
@RevFredPhelps: Good thing God dosen`t hate idiots heh? what`s wrong friend did you`r uncle love you to much? And now you hate you self for lovin it? do you miss some manmeat in your bum? i think so, but also I judge by your writing that you`r ass is sore what did you put up there??
peace from denmark
October 26th, 2008 at 6:47 am
Obama will do as he is told just like McCain would if he’s elected, the rest as we all know it stand no chance in a 2 party system, and if he doesn’t comply he ends up like Kennedy. Not a big secret. Yes, they will also cause another problem, reaction solution that is for certain. Innocents will die again.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:19 am
when are americans going to stop these puppet masters pulling the strings on their supposed elected officials ?
October 26th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Oh for f---s sake. Obama is NOWHERE near Kennedy. Kennedy died trying to expose the shadow government, a sacrifice of magnitude a megalomaniac like Obama is highly unlikely to make.
“Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”
This should make Biden a complete laughingstock, considering the huge and disturbing cult of personality that revolves around his running mate. Hypocrites and charlatans, all of them.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
i dont understand this site…obama is gonna win…but then they say mcbush is gonna win…who is it? i know its not up to the people..because the first rule of politics is…its not up to the people, only the one’s that count the ballots.
so…..who wins?
October 26th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
INCREDIBLE. The judge faxed a re-faxed document. VERY STRANGE. AND this manner of BO always behaving deceptively, elusively and un-submissively is just a *little taste* of what would be in store if he wins. (Just like the airplane incident)
BERG IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION AND ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION BEING RESPECTED. This is not a question of dirty tricks, or of color, or of party (Berg is a staunch Democrat).
THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE CONSTITUTION.
If BO is elected and then is found NOT ELIGIBLE that could – open a door to ‘change the constitution’ (which is illegal and dangerous) – or cause riots and allow martial law (with Bush just sitting tight).
No matter what happens it looks like the upheaval (social and financial) is going to be horrendous. To get through it people have got to KEEP THEIR HEADS. WE MUST PRAY FOR LAW-UPHOLDING LEADERS, which we haven’t seen for quite some time. True leaders who DON’T BEND the law to justify UNLAWFUL ACTIONS.
VOTE INDEPENDENT.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
“With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid”.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Obama has been hand pick for the down fall of this country, it’s a shame that he might be the last president we have, people are moving their money over seas, and people with money and influence are dparting at a fast rate out of the good old USA. what could they possibly know that we don’t?
October 26th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
lucky for us Bush has already conducted joint military training exercises with those potentially threatening countries.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I think what they hope to do is dump this country with a black president, so as to invite a race war in America as white America and quite possibly minorities such as Koreans, Vietnamese, and others look upon this “black” president as a blight and take it out on blacks and possibly Hispanics as since the majority of them support Osama Bin Barrack.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
well ive just read a bbc news report claiming that us troops have conducted raids inside syria killing 4 children obamas tough foreign policy challenge may be an all out s--- storm in the middle east. A unstable pakistan will be an even greater challenge as that nation has nuclear weapons.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I been sayin all along this is to invoke a civil war in america. That is the only thing that can open the door for the NAU. A house divided cannont stand. With Obama promising free s--- to all the lil welfare leeches who are voting for him, they gladly give in and will even kill whitey to protect him. They are ripe for communist rule, hell they already living off of the state. Wont be no change for them. The CHANGE is to get the working class dependant of the state. Thats the Obama CHANGE… Oh and regarding his spine of steel !? Biden is his spine…
October 26th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
JESUS IS SENDING US OBAMA TO BREAK THE 7 SEALS……. THE SECOND COMING OF LORD IS NEAR, PRAISE THE LORD….
October 26th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
The US Presidents(past and future) for the past 100 years to date, possibly longer, have been accomplices. They are just delivery boys with a message from the people that buy them and place them up as official mouth pieces. There is a paln for the plan.. and it is taking a while to fall into place. I have my own opinion and can appreciate other opions as long as they are rational and founded. The happenings around us seem significant to small thinkers.. but to those execting their plan, everything is falling into place.
Interesting and enlightening opinion that surely clears up things for me . I like it when a columnist does his job efficiently with references.
THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF AMERICA
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis140.htm
There are many planning the events of GVTs and it will take many to counter their plans.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Obama is the Anti-Christ,civil war is coming,Obama was not born in the US.Clean your firearms arms and get ready cause it’s about to heavy.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
the second coming is not what people think. its another ploy by the NWO illuminati bloodlines to control us and for us to give up everything we fought for in our illustrious history. FIGHT AGAINST ZEITGEIST. FIGHT AGAINST NWO. FIGHT AGAINST PROJECT BLUE BEAM. FIGHT AGAINST EVERYTHING UNNATURAL.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
FIGHT AGAINST IDIOTS WHO THINK ZEITGEIST IS NWO! FIGHT AGAINST CLOSED-MINDED, IGNORANT RADICALS!
October 26th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Interessante.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Zeitgeist is NWO and it is antiChristian..
prove that it is not..it supports one world religion which is the same as NWO
October 26th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
ZEITGEIST is about the history of religion, and the future of where man is going. It doesn’t go into who is going to control the NWO, for that doesn’t matter. A unified world under one government would a perfect existence, if done properly. It is documentary based on some interesting research that makes the most sense out of everything presented so far.
As far as what is going to happen in the future? We know that the market is seriously going to tank next year, because the numbers at Christmas are going to be bad. When do you get kicked in a fight? When you are on the ground. This economical situation is going to test this country to the point of hard working men down on their knees begging. Something they have never done before. And when you are hungry and broke, it is easier to distract you.
So when Biden says there will be big changes, I imagine that is when they will happen. If it gets to the point of Nuclear weapons with any of the countries I believe they will pull out the alien card. Just my opinion. They want the people dead, not the resources tainted.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
“Something they have never done before.”
or I should say in a while…
And especially those that are use to being spoon fed.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Foosball the Devil Bobby. ZEITGEIST is not. Give me a rational explanation to think otherwise, unlike you I’ll keep an open mind to any facts in your case.
October 27th, 2008 at 3:14 am
This article is rubbish,
Nations have always wanted to be superpowers but they are no more suicidal than the average person.I dont like nuclear proliferation but America cannot police the world people!!
Get over it.
Why would a nation attack USA with nukes unless there was potential for economic growth?
Use your heads, this nonsense seems beneficial to Mccains campaign and it wont work.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:48 am
26 October-SYRIA HAS BEEN ATTACKED BY THE US!
8 people died when 4 American army attack helicopters (Apache’s probably) opened fire on a building in a Syrian village near the border with Iraq.
The government in Damascus asked diplomats from the US and Iraq to give an explanation about this event.
SO SYRIA COULD BE NEXT!
October 27th, 2008 at 6:01 am
what’s it like in the States now? I live up in Vancouver, Canada
October 27th, 2008 at 6:50 am
Nothing new. They always defy public opinion with or wthout our awareness. They’re just getting more blatant and boisterous about it, because their arrogance and pride is growing along with their confidence that they will institute their global plans. However, there is always pride and arrogance just before a fall. Hold on, folk. This is going a rough ride through hell and back.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Zeitgeist is propaganda and is very anti-Christian.
As someone said, it preaches a NWO and goes against what the movement stands for
October 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
mccain seems like more a war monger and his experience is really awful when you look at it: he bombed his aircraft carrier and turned traitor in viet nam. on the other hand biden sounds about as stupid as they come and obama will be like a rookie cop out to prove what a hawk he is. i think they’re all coopted into the nwo, to a greater or lesser extent. palin s prez would be the scariest though.
October 27th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Yes
October 27th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
i dont think alot of you out there are listening. like alex says, all these democrat and republican snakes work for the same elitist masters. there is no lesser of two evils. fight them all
October 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
at the end of the day the two party system in America is a joke. all your given is a choice of the lesser of two evils and if you cant pick the right one then there is little hope for picking some one you actually want to represent you! personally I would have liked Ron Paul to stand as an independent. maybe next time when he’s older and don’t care about the republicans he will. ps sorry about the generalisations about Americans but from the uk your country is in a bit of a state not that ares isn’t lol
October 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Did you all hear about how over 50% of the population in the U.S. is Hispanic and a Hispanic lady had a “litter” of 6 and they don’t know how they are going to take care of them????????? I love babies and children but this is getting just a little bit ridiculous. I did have 2 of my own but all grown up now.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
As not only a founder of this once-great nation of people, but as its father of your constitution, I am now but a spectator from afar. With great distress I witness the precise loss of what Mr. Franklin cautioned against as we ajourned from the convention. On that day, Mr. Franklin noted when asked what kind of government we had given the great body of people, that we had given you a republic, if you could keep it. As I rest atop my vantage point now, I am alarmed for the nation, its people, and its future. Were my founding brothers to comment, they, too, would concur. It seems a dire strait that the people find themselves tangled in.
Such a sad state of affairs when I take inventory of those the great body have elected to represent and preserve the priceless liberties handed down to them. Worse, those individuals to whom the potential torch would be passed onto, in the shadows of Mr. Washington’s legacy, leave much, oh so much, to be desired. One might think not knowing otherwise, that this place of trust elevated to once such a lofty and honorable abode, might no longer attach to it any importance. This I say, based upon simply the questionable character of each man, their troubled resume with regards to a representatives’ obligation, and the hollow banter and tyrannical notions each promise to impress upon an uknowing and ignorant nation. One promises a change, but fails to set forth precisely the manner in which the present process should be changed, and changed to what, may I ask? The other, no better in insight nor intent, promises stability by the means of maverick governing, in which case, my dear citizens, is the core of your current dilemma – maverick government that produces change so far reduced from the original intent our original frame of governing, that it eliminates, one by one, and even greater, your rights and liberties my founding brothers gave lives and fortunes for. As we rose up against the world power, at some point, action became the tantamount cry. There was, at the point of no return, left no more time allotted for words. Brothers in history, your time is short. Your options are few. And, worse, your will has wavered for what is necessary and for what confronts you. I beg of you, in the name of liberty, in the name of independence, and in the name for all who passed onto you this now wavering torch, keep it lit for those who, too, may follow in your footsteps, as you did ours.
James Madison.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:27 am
He’s gonna hire Kinda Sleazy Rice as the Secretary of Defense!!!!!
If that EVIL bitch can’t kill millions of ‘em, Nobody can!!!!
October 28th, 2008 at 1:50 am
It matters not whom is elected or whether the election is called off or postphoned. This is a facist coup initiated by the illuminati/global elite/fallen angels/demons or folks alien to us. Reflect on what took place in Germany as this is the same group herding us to their new world order. Their hope isi that through controlled media, distraction and chemtrails, that we will not even get what is taking place until it is too late. Just like the european union and euro, the US will join the north american union and amero will be the rescue currency. Education is paramount: sites for truth include whatdoesitmean.com willthomasonline.net uaff.us stevequayle.com weatherwars infowars ronald weinland etc. Best to you and research for truth, Pamela
October 28th, 2008 at 3:25 am
Lets just nuke ourselves and get it over with..
October 28th, 2008 at 8:52 am
DOES anyone think Lindsay Williams’ “elite source” will be right when he said no matter what happens McCain will get elected? It would seem that Obama got the nod from the Bilderbergers a few months back. Williams’ source got a few other things right…
October 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I wonder what will happen to the Obama administration when we have a suprise “suitcase nuclear attack”,across major cites like New York City,LA,Chicago,etc.?