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What is Wrong With the UN Population Fund?
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Steven W. Mosher
Huffington Post
January 2, 2008
Why shouldn’t the U.S. fund the population controllers at the United Nations, as Huffington Post columnist Cristina Page proposes? (See "The Pro-Lie Movement Targets Hillary," 2 December 2008). The short answer is that the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA) is implicated in some of the most coercive anti-people campaigns in the world today.
Started in 1969 following a massive lobbying effort by billionaire John D. Rockefeller III, the UNFPA claims to work to "reduce poverty and to ensure that every pregnancy is wanted, every birth is safe, every young person is free of HIV/AIDS, and every girl and woman is treated with dignity and respect." In fact, the UNFPA, like its founder, believes that the way to reduce poverty is to reduce the numbers of the poor through sterilization, contraception, and abortion campaigns.
We know. We have conducted repeated investigations of UNFPA operations around the world. We have found that, despite its soothing rhetoric about improving "reproductive health," and "safe motherhood" ― the UNFPA spends a huge chunk of its budget on soporific propaganda — the agency continues to be fixated on the numbers. We have documented its involvement in coercive population control policies in countries like China, Vietnam, Peru, and North Korea, as well as in refugee camps around the world.
Its intimate connection to China’s brutal one-child policy merits special attention. For three long decades, the Chinese government has aborted and sterilized millions of women each year. For three long decades, the UNFPA has provided financial aid, ideological encouragement, and international sanction to these abuses through its offices in Beijing and around the Chinese countryside. This shameless pattern of complicity in some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet is the chief reason why the Bush administration, for seven years running, has refused to fund the UN agency.
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We at PRI have hard evidence on the UNFPA’s involvement in coercion ― videotapes, cassette tapes, written and spoken testimony from dozens of witnesses. Our information was verified by the U.S. State Department, and is accessible on our web site, as well as in our new video series: Exposure: Investigative Realism from PRI. Even Secretary of State Colin Powell, who in the past has been friendly towards the UNFPA, declared the UNFPA ineligible for U.S. funding because of its complicity in forced abortion and forced sterilization.
Now, none of this matters to the radical base of the population control movement, which remains determined to shovel as many U.S. tax dollars into the UNFPA maw as possible. Cristina Page went so far as to call us lunatics for daring to challenge the UNFPA’s programs:
Just when UNFPA was succeeding in proving to the Chinese the one-child policy was not only inhumane but also ineffective, PRI swooped in with its claims of complicity. Bush, eager to lock lips with his fanatical base, ignored the advice of his own state department, as well as many allied nations, and opted to go with the swirly eyed lunacy of the six staffers of PRI. At their request, Bush quickly froze all U.S. funds to UNFPA, which represented 12 percent of its budget.
Like other population control hardliners, Ms. Page does not attempt to refute our evidence. Instead, she mindlessly recites the UNFPA’s party line. Does anyone really that the UNFPA is "succeeding"―after three long decades―in bringing an end to a policy that the Chinese government proudly proclaims will persist until 2050? Her claim that Bush ignored the advice of his state department is likewise a fantasy. What Colin Powell, Bush’s first Secretary of State, actually said was: "Stop the Funding."
Ms. Page has no real arguments to make against us, which is probably why she resorts to sandlot slurs. But we stand by our research and our findings. And we remain firmly convinced that the UN Population Fund serves no useful purpose, and should be abolished.
The population control programs of the past half-century, born in the dark fear of "the unchecked growth in human numbers," have been a quiet but profound disaster for the poor and marginalized half of humanity. Hundreds of millions of poor women (and men) have had their fundamental rights–i.e., to control their own reproductive systems and to determine the number and spacing of their children–grossly violated. An even larger number have had their overall wellbeing compromised as resources have been drained away from primary health care programs, with some succumbing to HIV/AIDS and other epidemics. While the cost of such programs in terms of human lives and suffering has been all too real, the promised benefits have proven largely illusory. Is the U.S. more secure, the global environment better protected, and the world wealthier today because of population control programs? Are the poor better off? The evidence suggests not.
The idea of controlling human fertility "for the good of the state and its people," as Beijing is fond of saying, is a 20th century anachronism. It deserves to be as thoroughly discredited as Marxist-Leninism, and for the same reason: It is at heart a philosophy of state coercion. In its more extreme manifestations in China and elsewhere, it has given rise to terror campaigns. But even in its mildest guises, it encourages a technocratic paternalism that effectively subjugates individual and familial fertility desires to the wishes of the state.
The U.S. should not only continue to avoid funding the U.N. Population Fund, it should withdraw entirely from the organization. As far as the UNFPA itself, this creation of Rockefeller and his cronies should be shut down. Whatever legitimate health functions it performs can be transferred to the World Health Organization, UNICEF, or other international organizations. Some small programs, like that instituted to address the problem of obstetric fistula, may be worth saving. Others are Potemkin facades erected to con critics and deceive women.
We―and the women of China, Vietnam, North Korea, etc.―are not fooled.
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January 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
EVERYTHING is wrong with it! It’s sickening.
January 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
If we are on the subject of, for instance, rendering the Federal Reserve obsolete, the UN and other items might well follow. National referendum voting on such matters seems in order, assuming, of course, that an honest vote is still feasible in this country. Perhaps many of the bills in Congress should, in reality, be by referendum. Maybe a partly lottery appointed Congress would be helpful – the backhoe operator down the street is, by the law of averages, far more likely to be fair to his country than one who is owned by the election process. Decentralization of government, and certainly of monetary policy, appears to be the key.
January 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
You sound like you’re against ALL population control…if all contraceptives were eliminated and people were “freed” from the tyranny of condoms and the pill, we would have women pregnant every nine months, a horribly painful circumstance for womankind. Not to mention the unruly population boom that would result. High schools would basically shut down because so many of the girls would be constantly pregnant, on maternal leave or whatever. Women would be weeded out of the workforce due to constant absenteeism due to incessant pregnancies. We’d detiriorate into a Soylent Green state of overpopulation, where humans are absolutely everywhere and still, the breeding would not stop.
January 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
One must remember, the Federal Reserves and our own criminal illegitimate government are in partnership together. So we must take back our government first, and restore the constitution of the United States, and at the same time abolish the Fed. In addition, remember the continuity of government plan, who’s government?! ours or theirs? Theirs! The Corporate States of America, that is the COG! Most people don’t understand it is NOT corporations that own America, it is government by proxy through investments owns corporations and YOU! Welcome to Amerika Comrade!
http://www.cafr1.com/
January 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
great job guys. you always inspire me with your awesome articles and passion for the good of humanity. we shall conquer, through light & love those self seeking powers that oppress and plot against humanity for it is our divine birth right! aum shanthi, light & love.
January 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
my Mother was wrong. ther are MONSTERS in this world that must be stoped—->
http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
January 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
#3, if a woman CHOOSES to use a condom or birth control it should be HER choice and not mandated by the gov’t. Get it straight.
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I am going to make my wife pregnant now after reading this I want 5 more kids to be soldiers in the war against Globalism.
http://www.TacticalWarfighterGear.com
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
jibjab.Not if the parents took back their obligation to teach morals to their children.You sound like someone who would like their cake and eat it too.
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
This has got to be one of the most difficult issues going today in my opinion. On one hand you don’t want masses of children that don’t have the means to survive and on the other you want to let the population run wild, people that can’t afford to feed their own mouth giving birth to more mouths…and i don’t think there is a way to make anyone happy here with this topic. But i believe that overpopulation is a problem, a serious problem. There is simply not enough for all these people to do for work, yet they insist on procreating. People that cannot afford to give a child food, water, and shelter, everyday of their lives, should simply not be allowed to have children. But how do you accomplish this? I’d say some kind of reversable sterilization would be the only solution that comes close to being humane…followed by a obtaining a license to have children. Now bear in mind im trying to figure this out on my own here so i really have no idea. But that way you would have to be able to afford the license to have a child, and in turn, would be able to afford the child. I’m just sick of these fucking useless turds that have no business bringing a child into the world, doing so, and as a result we wind up with stupid fuckers giving birth to stupid fuckers, giving birth to stupid fuckers. And this results in more poverty, hunger, and crime. I actually think China has the right idea, limiting family size, but there has to be a better way to do it cause you know people aren’t gonna be persuaded into fucking with condoms and the pill all the time. Thats my rant, by no means a “what we should do” just kinda, running through possibilities. Population will control itself i guess, but only through the path of most suffering (ie: starvation, war, disease)
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
#7 amy The only reason you have a choice is they want to kill your baby, quit being retarded
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Sorry amy I didnt read #3 before my comment,, I feel retarded myself………..
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
It should read—Whats right with the……….???
January 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Why is an entity like the UN even considered for a “piopulation fund” and who “willingly” contributes to such a fund. Does this mean the UN decides who will live and who will die and/or be able to reproduce?
The fact this article exists is evidence of the travesty that organized GVTs and elites have imposed on humanty> Soon the GVT mechanicaal system will decide who is streilized(and they do through promotion of pregnant women who continuously give birth and reliy on siocial programs).
If you allow yourself to become a servant to GVt … you deserve what you get.
January 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
After watching maury povich show and cops maybe some population control would be nice.
FTP
January 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
If we distill out the matter of an enlightened world within reach of mankind, free of oppressive central institutions to do our thinnking, it seems that the population issue can be reduced to a simple question – are we humans with a cerebrum or are we little more than cockroaches in a dirty kitchen?
January 2nd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
hint: Go laser pointer shopping, look for a green high powered models. EBAY has the very cheap
January 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Hey Amy, I hear ya, girl!
Direct quote from #10: “Now bear in mind im trying to figure this out on my own here so i really have no idea.”<=At least you got ONE THING RIGHT.
I don’t give a shit if folks want 1 child or 15 it is THEIR FUCKING RIGHT TO HAVE OR NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN!!
Yes the UN wants to control population. Yes they know there’s PLENTY of food for all of us. Yes they are hoarding all of it so they can selectively eliminate us all.
You want advice? Take your kids or yourselves out of these Indoctrination Camps they call Schools. Teach them the history of this world not the contrivances they’ve floated upon us for 1000’s of years. Teach them to grow their own food, to harness the elements for their benefit, to never join the military but teach them guerrilla tactics.
SELF SUFFICIENCY CRUSHES THEIR ATTEMPTS TO THWART THE CONTINUED RISE OF FREE HUMANITY!
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
TORTUROUS DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
January 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Speak up at:
http://propagandawerks.blogspot.com
January 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
#19 prometheus11- ok so that was a desperate attempt by you to make yourself feel smart because you don’t quote anything else directly that shows i have no idea. Now then, by no idea, i mean i am coming UP with ideas, without much information or disinformation, just my thoughts, not telling anyone this is right or wrong. YOU are just trotting along with ideas YOU’VE been fed, from one source or another, because you make statements as if they are fact. Not to say they’re all wrong….cept for the idea self sufficency will CRUSH them lol, self sufficiency is great and everyone should be, but it ain’t gonna crush shit. You beleive you KNOW things and state that this and that and the other thing ARE this and that way, matter of fact. Fuck, you know nothing, i know nothing (yeah go ahead, quote that), he knows nothing, and she knows nothing until its proven, if it ever can be. So we ALL have NO IDEA. You’re just spouting off, thinking you know everything, when essentially knowing everything, is knowing that you know nothing for certain. Thats looking at the big picture, thats thinking with an open mind. My point is, i HAVE an idea, by having no idea. I’m not saying we should kill any babies so what is your problem? Yeah, i bet you’d love it if your neighbour pumped out 15 kids, couldn’t afford them and they started running wild, stealing all yours and other peoples shit cause their parents got in over their heads. Whats stopping that from happening? Nothing because they have the right to put YOU in that situation as well. And you think those kids lives are all smiles and candy? Its fucking horrible for kids growing up in those conditions, much less the far worse conditions in third world countries, especially in modern society, look at the suicide rates in youth in poor communities. I believe the more important right to have than for a woman to pump out kids at will, is the right for every child born to have a fair chance to succeed at leading a happy healthy life. Instead you get crack babies, fetal alchohol syndrome, children abused, children starving, etc….as a result of people with no business (at least at that point in their lives) having children. Bet those kids sure are glad that they were born.
January 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 am
@3…you sound like a sci-fi writer or something lol.
January 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 am
To 3 jibjab -
You sound like a rat more than a human. You imagination ecedes your ability. Let them people you describe reproduce like rats on social programs and they will be treated like rats.
Remove the social programs and make ACCOUNTABILITY an example of society and the “rat fucking” will cease and come to a complete stop. You resp[ond as if no one has any expectation of control of their legs and the spreading therof. As long ats the GVT manipulates they social structure they will wear humanity down any way they can. Why be a willing subject of destruction by the stupidity of becoming pregnant?
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 am
Yeah, sounds like bullshit.
Well said.
Of course, the UN is bullshit; as is NAFTA, CAFTA, or…WHENEVER people get together in binding government agreements on ANYTHING.
The best thing we can do is begin to stop paying taxes for government support of the UN and it’s programs; while continuing to alert people to these travesties put out by the Rockefellers.
There must also be no taxation without consent: http://mediacondom.com/?p=275
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 am
#11 – Very sadly, this is the ugly truth. The new way of control is to give the illusion of liberation.
This is coming from a long time critic of religion, anti-abortion (I’m somewhere in the middle… not so black and white), and so on.
Unfortunately, pro-choice is being twisted to a way to legally mandate population control. Just like the new environmentalist movement, which even the former leaders of the movement speak out against, which takes a great idea (preserving nature, and fighting for less industrial poisoning in our food, water, and air) and distorting it into an anti-human tool for social control and enslavement.
I would gladly sing the praises of the most fundamentalist Christian bigots, rather than fall to the horrors of the genocidal social-darwinist Nazis that head up the UN, think tanks, intelligence communities, and some government offices.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
Birth control is a PC name for poulation control, a term originally coined by the eugenics movem ent. “More babies from the fit, less from the unfit”, is the guiding principle of this movement, however softened the message becomes to meet media demands and PR comsiderations.
Nothing with this evil root (darwinist and nazi to the core) can ever reult in benefit for the planet. Rather iit remains a vehicle for the weak and vulnerable, the brown-skinned and the inconvenient to be targeted for elimination by the rich and powerful.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:46 am
The Treasonious organization UN needs shut down power brought back to the people like Ron Paul till we can trust someone to head it up this country when we do get it back and we will will never get this way again with all the tcck. wee have today we can monitor all our officals from home.we sure have a scum Gov.&military google Civilan Imate Labor Program.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
FUCK THE N.W.O AND BRING BACK N.W.A !!!
FCUK THE NEO-SCUM BLOOD-SUCKERZ, BOY BUSH & O”BAAAA”MA BIN LADEN TOO !!!!!
TIME TO STAND-UP & BE COUNTED FOLKS. LET’S WIN THIS INFOWAR THAT WE’RE IN !!!
SPREAD THE WORD, LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT ALEX HAS TAUGHT US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RETURN POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, & FOR THE PEOPLE
LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN ………………………………… ALEX JONES 4 PRESIDENT !!!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Hey, Jibjab! You were in the Bible, weren’t you?! You know..the part with the talking jackass..
I posted your *jibberjabber* below (#3)
Listen, dipdip: People AREN’T animals. Did you get that? People have souls and wills, and have the choice to behave in a civilized manner. Animals behave like..well, ANIMALS, according to their instincts as that’s all they possess. Your suggestion that all women of child-bearing age will be pregnant without the *help* of genocidal freaks like the UN, like rats or rabbits, is laughable. I was encouraged by your comment that the *govt.* high schools might shut down, however! hahaha If only that could happen! Government schools are in the same camp with the UN, and both the aforementioned should be dissolved (in strong acid solution would be fine with me! ha) One last caveat, dipdip: SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!! hahahahaaaaa etc. (couldn’t resist..sorry) amerika bless God Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
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“You sound like you’re against ALL population control…if all contraceptives were eliminated and people were “freed” from the tyranny of condoms and the pill, we would have women pregnant every nine months, a horribly painful circumstance for womankind. Not to mention the unruly population boom that would result. High schools would basically shut down because so many of the girls would be constantly pregnant, on maternal leave or whatever. Women would be weeded out of the workforce due to constant absenteeism due to incessant pregnancies. We’d detiriorate into a Soylent Green state of overpopulation, where humans are absolutely everywhere and still, the breeding would not stop.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
#27 You fail to recognize those women whose health might be endangered if they do have another child.
I’m not by any means a birth control pusher, but I do recognize, that some people do use it wisely. Some couples choose to get on their feet and are able to provide for that child before they decide to bring them into this world. To them I say, hats off. Don’t get me wrong, children are costly no matter how much money you do or do not have. Children are indeed a blessing, but being smart about how you bring a child into this world is something I applaud. If you know you can’t buy diapers (cloth diapering in my opinion), formula (breastfeeding is best in my opinion), etc then use that birth control until you know you can properly provide for that child.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
We murder our own children, they murder us! Sounds like a reasonable result of the law of sowing and reaping to me. What idiots we were to agree to murder our own children!!! We speeded up our fast-track to destruction when we agreed to sanction shit-for-sex and then call that shitty lifestyle marrige-worthy.
But the good news – as fas as I know the UN does not plan to gouge the back of our heads and suck our brains out and they do not plan on tearing us limb-from-limb to kill us so we may not have it as bad as our children have had it for the past 30 years.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
26, You are, I am assuming a bloodline Jew?, as opposed to a grafted in Jew, such as myself, or the fake edomite/shabbataian Jews, a grafted in Jew being one that accepts Yahushua haMashiach.
To hear a bloodline Jew speak of Christian bigotry is a bit of an oxymoron, what do you define as fundamentalist Christians? and what has misguided you to believe that there is anything wrong with being fundamentalist in particular or bigoted?, (which means convicted in ones belief, in its prime context)
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
Anyone who attemps to play God with our lives are truly evil twisted and warped pieces of excrement that need flushed from the system to seep into the leach fields to fertilize the food of the generations to come that attempting to play God shall not pay off or play off as aceptable practices of our being as civil humans.
January 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Absolutely 34! and that is exactly what they are doing.
And if we do not, as the almighty mandated we do before, to wipe them out this time, this misery and tyranny will never end.
January 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
It really is unfortunate that there isn’t some way for people to agree to keep human population in check. In another 50 years or so there is supposed to be twice as many of us as there are now. One way or another, I don’t think so.
To my mind, there is certainly a stunningly large amount of confused thinking about what the individual soul is, and very little mind put to the universal soul of all sentient beings. The Abrahamic tradition isn’t helping at all. Whether it’s some God’s plan, or some human plan, the human population will reduce.
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Bifurcatio, what kind of crap is this you speak? unfortunate you can’t reduce/murder some people to fit you misguided notion of how many people fit on earth, when in reality, it has been demonstrated that there is plenty of room and resources? under the ocean, in the deserts, there is so much uninhabited land.
There is in fact, plenty of everything, it is the criminals such as monsanto and the “uncooperative humans” of the united nations who are ruining our food, ruining our lands, depriving us of our inherent right to hunt, fish and grow crops. They will be dealt with. It behoves you not to misplace your loyalties with them.
The problem is, the muts who proclaim themselves elite, fancy a planet devoid of us for their own satanic endeavors.
Population control is natural, through natural death and catastrophes, etc., we don’t need your help or any nitwits like you who subscribe to eugenics and the notion they can play god…we already have one, the Almighty, who’s name is YahVey, (Yod Hey Vod Hey, or Yahuah.
The maggots who follow the fallen one and conjure such junk science as overpopulation/ population reduction are the same trash who are destroying OUR water, OUR air, OUR land , OUR genetics etc., they are the ones who need to be destroyed and subdued for the peace and prosperity of the rest of us who are NOT satanists.
Go rot with your flawed filthy logic.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
It is true to believe that the earth provide for 9 billion people, but at a cost. Living standards will go down, and animal species will become extinct, but who cares right? American living standards are already slowing its trend upward, with the rise of India and China. Expect more of that as other heavily populated countries improve their economic conditions.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
The infamous State Department Memorandum 200. How many of you have bothered to actually look it up? That’s what I thought.
http://www.whale.to/v/memorandum.html
Does it talk about reducing world population by 90%? No. 80%? Nope. 50% or 10%? Nope.
It talks about a sustainable GROWTH of 1-2%. It says that would put far less strain on all kinds of resources. This in turn would produce fewer shortages, fighting, war and suffering.
Here are some more evil statements in the document they don’t want you to read but make available on the net;
1. Reducing infant mortality, including through simple low-cost health care networks;
2. Increasing income of the poorest, especially in rural areas, including providing privately owned farms;
3. All couples and individuals have the basic human right to decide freely and responsibly the number and spacing of their children and to have the information, education and means to do so;
4. Highest priority should be given to reduction in mortality and morbidity and increase of life expectancy and programs for this purpose should reach rural areas and underprivileged groups
5. Family planning and related services should aim at prevention of unwanted pregnancies and also at elimination of involuntary sterility or subfecundity to enable couples to achieve their desired number of children.
Is there a maximum carrying capacity for Earth? Are there infinite or finite resources on Earth? If Earth is of finite size does it make sense that there is a finite amount of matter, resources? I don’t support reducing the population but what is the max? 9 billion? 12 billion? 20 billion? 60 billion? 210 billion? What do we do when the max is reached and everyone dies because there simply is too much strain on Earth?
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
All of you who believe we need population control are falling for the con of the NWO.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
33: Yes, but not entirely. This has nothing to do with anything. Human beings aren’t slaves to their bloodlines. This is what royals get us to believe to try to enslave everyone else.
I don’t follow Judaism beyond an acceptance of, and belief in God. I live my life to the best of my ability and strive to always treat others with love, compassion, and generosity. I can say with full honesty that the only people on this planet that I hate, are these elite psychopaths who wish to snuff out the vibrant and beautiful flame of humanity. The only reason for this hatred, is that they wish to destroy all that is good, and glorious, for their own stolen enjoyment. Regardless of it’s pitfalls or irritations, humanity is truly a marvelous thing, as complex and as simple as is possible to be.
My correlation with fundamental Christianity isn’t necessarily a criticism of the idea, even though that idea has been used for the purpose of evil from time to time. It was merely to prove a point. There is a great fear that is stirred up in people any time the propagandists try to get you to hate another group of people (trust me, they’re trying to turn all of those who are aware into anti-semites, right on schedule, just like every time). Every word is distorted, and perfectly reasonable and peaceful modern human beings are reduced (in the propaganda) to animalistic sociopaths. It’s kind of like what they did to the Muslims recently. My point is, as Jesus himself said, he without sin can throw the first stone. Every deist religion on earth has the same rhetoric. “God chose us, and only us” and “Your going to hell unless you believe our interpretation of God”. The “chosen people” thing is merely just a parallel of that unfortunate way of thinking. In reality, everyone on earth is God’s chosen people. We are all equal. The evil of tyrants and, in our case the NWO, is that it tries to destroy this reality by enforcing their own “levels of humanity”.
Bigotry isn’t a force of good. It keeps us divided against our common enemy. Our common enemy are aware that we are all equal. Racial tension, religious tension, all of this are ways to divert our attention from those who are really destroying humanity. There is no destroyer race, master race, or even godly race. If we all united, we could end it. Right now. There are more common people than elite. We aren’t as stupid and primal as the elite would like. That is why they are doing everything they can to dumb us down medically. This is why they wish to make living conditions unbearable. We just don’t want to collectively destroy each other. But… introduce rhetoric and propaganda, and we go bloody crazy. THIS is OUR downfall. We may not need the elite to destroy us, as we might end up destroying ourselves on their behalf.
Jew, Gentile, Muslim, Atheist, African, Asian, European, Arab, Native. We all must stand as one, and say “We’re mad as hell, and we’re not going to take it anymore!” We WILL be free! The system isn’t actually broken. It has been intentionally destroyed.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Just because the world can support more people isn’t a reason to have more people. There are too many people having children that couldn’t be trusted with a gerbil. And policies like giving council houses to unwed mothers in the UK and other places is just encouraging people, you are rewarding people for a biological function with no concern with is this person capable of raising a future contributer to society. I think it’s humanities arrogance that they have a right to exist and reproduce over any other species that is the underlying problem. Peoples rights should be determined by their merit as human beings and not given automatically. For example If your teenage child goes around with a bunch of other teenagers and stabs and robs someone who was minding their own business, should the parent not be held responsible for the fact that their kid is a scumbag, afterall they were meant to raise them not to do things like that, thats a good reason for sterilization and Most of the time the kids already a scumbag and no saving him, he might serve some purpose as compost. This kind of mentality would serve a few purposes, less assholes, less stupid people, less people on the bus LOL. Its probably the only way to stop a true technocracy too, its been proven that intelligent have smaller families if not at all and stupid people tend to have large families, in a 100 years when things start to break down those who can maintain it will be kings. It doesn’t matter if i’m wrong or you think i’m an asshole, it is the way things are going, anyone who isn’t afraid to look can see it happening already.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I am not a member or have contributed one red cent to this organization. I have monitored them and observed efforts and they called the GVT on the carpet on taxes once and the GVT agreed and backed down in order to avoid answers from “the People”.
I admire the fact that this group keeps pressing on. How much support they get is unknown to me. They are howerev attempting to organize and do something. Alex Jones is chasing the Bilderbergers and various fringe groups that cannot be held accountable by the people. Enough people gathered can eventually get attention, especially under present conditions in the US, and perhaps crack the wall GVT has built between us and them.
Look into it and come to your own conclusions. Yelling from a bullhorn at nobodys” makes someone appear like the stereotypical “radical nut case”.. no matter what intent. A civil and yet aggressive approach may yield more support.
Again.. this group has established themselves and are selling nothing.. yet asking only that people be concerned and if they can donate ..do so… if not.. they haven’t gone away yet. One guy has given up everything to challenge the IRS for answers and challenged the GVT on it’s refusal to accept grievances as required by the 1st Amendment.
If This web site blocks this .. it will state volumes to me. Self serving volumes.
we can wait until forced.. or we can initiate action civilly at first and do so now. Your choice. This group is at least trying in a way that most civil people will buy into. Everyone has the potential to “huff and puff”… but that accomplishes nothing.
http://givemeliberty.org/
January 4th, 2009 at 2:38 am
The prior statements about cover what I would have to say. Lets rid ourselves of the NWO bastards.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:46 am
#42
The use of the acronym “LOL” clearly shows that you are below the mental requirements to be considered a useful member of society. You have now been designated a third class citizen; your clothes and personal effects will be sent to your new residence. Your television will be limited to only those channels that meet the stimulation requirements set forth by the Ministry of Graciousness, your daily vaccinations will be administered via your new robotic surveillance and sanitation droid.
You will be asked to submit to sterilization and a brain scan. Failure to comply with the above criteria and all other stipulations set forth in the Declaration for the Cohesion of the Masses will result in immediate excommunication and incarceration. Enjoy the rest of your meaningless fucking life in a world where people that think like you just posted have complete centralized control over your life and a body significant enough to enforce their will.
January 4th, 2009 at 9:01 am
42: Here’s a thought. Encourage, and dramatically reduce the economic costs of adoption. My wife and I plan, instead of conceiving, to adopt a child when the financial and social stability present themselves. We believe that there are plenty of hurting children that already exist who need and desperately want a loving family.
Even in pandering to this psychotic nazi wet dream of population control, this accomplishes the goal by making it economically feasible for people who are not strictly upper or upper-middle class to adopt one of the multitudes of children who live each day without hope of a family or future. There are no civil liberties invaded in the process, and those who could be economically disadvantaged and forced to conceive new human beings rather than care for those who already live, would have another feasible option. There are many people, myself included, who would be thrilled to adopt a child, and give them a hope for a future, and a loving family if it were economically feasible to do so. In this scenario, playing devils advocate that we are actually “in a state of crisis”, not a single new human being is introduced. Why, then, is there not new legislation to make such an idea a possibility. Is saving the human race actually the end goal? Are we actually in a state of crisis?
For every false justification that the NWO tries to impose on humanity for the means of total control, a rational, non-invasive, strategy can be implemented in it’s stead. The alternatives often show a much better and non-invasive way to solve the supposed or generated “problems” that the globalist use as their machinery.
What REAL hurdles are in the way of human progress? Those that are installed by the NWO themselves, in order to appear as the solution. Problem, reaction solution goes much further than just state sponsored terrorism.
January 4th, 2009 at 9:03 am
45: Thank you for bringing some humour into the scope of things. I genuinely enjoyed that jab.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
ENGAGE THE INFORMATION WAR THAT WE’RE IN FOLKS. IT’S TIME 2 UNITE & FIGHT.
DON’T LET THESE NEO-SCUM-BLOOD-SUCKING-BASTARDS WIN !!!!!
POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, 4 THE PEOPLE
VIVA LA REVOLUTION ………………………….. MR ALEX JONES 4 EL PREZIDENTAY !!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
The man on the white horse will dismount on Jan. 20, 2009. The 2nd seal will soon be opened and WWIII will begin. This will help eliminate the so-called population problem.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
resist.
January 4th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Protect yourselves.
January 4th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
impeachbush.org
January 4th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
What? So Bush… who works for Rockefeller… cut funding for Rockefeller’s pet project? Did Rockefeller ask that the funding stop until Obaaaaaahhhhhhhmmmmmaaaaaa get’s elected? If they’re so hell bent on population control why would they starve themselves of funds?
January 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Jew against Zionism, thank you for responding, I just now got back to this thread, sounds as though you have reasoned this through, but, while I cannot fault your posture, I do not entirely agree, being a messianic believer does not preclude me from interacting or allying with others, even if they do not believe in Yahshuah, or the Most High Himself, as long as they are not blasphemous and or sacrilegious, it makes little difference to me, though I do try and impart the way upon any with an open mind.
Good coresponding with you though.
January 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am
INFORMATION IS THE BEST WEAPON TO USE AGAINST THESE NEO-SCUM BASTARDS !!
IT’S TIME FOR ALL INFOWARRIORS TO STEP UP, STEP FORWARD, AND POLLUTE THE
WORLD WITH OUR COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS. 1 LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!
TIME TO GIVE POWER BACK 2 THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE, & GIVEN 4 THE PEOPLE
AND SO BEGINS THE REVOLUTION …………………………………………….
………”RON PAUL”……………………….”ALEX JONES”………………………….”DAVID ICKE”……….
…..FOR PRESIDENT…………….FOR VICE-PRESIDENT………….FOR SECRETARY-OF-STATE……..
January 26th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
i lvled up my charcter by 6% which gives me an attack +2. a probility chance of power meens better points. blah blah blah blah