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WHO Silence on Ukraine Sequences Raises Pandemic Concerns
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Recombinomics
November 10, 2009
It has now been more than a week since samples from Ukraine were sent to the WHO regional lab, Mill Hill in London. Although comments have been made that at least 15 samples were H1N1 confirmed, and the sequences showed no large changes or resistance to oseltamivir, there have been no updates. The absence of additional information or release of sequences, increases concerns that small changes undergoing further analysis are causing delays.
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| A woman distributes protective masks in the center of Kiev, November 9, 2009. | |
In the days post shipment, cases in Ukraine have quadrupled to over 1 million and the reported fatalities have grown from 30 to 174. The clinical presentation of 90 of the fatalities was classical H1N1 linked hemorrhagic pneumonia, which led to the "total destruction" of both lungs. These fatal cases were hospitalized 3-7 days after disease onset, highlighting the rapid progression of the infection in a large number of patients, suggesting genetic changes in the H1N1 virus.
Although politicians and media reports continue to downplay the significance by citing a small number of lab confirmed cases or more traditional pneumonia deaths, the number of fatal hemorrhagic cases was unusually large. These deaths involve hemorrhagic pneumonia in previously health young adults. Most deaths were 19-40 years of age. The age group with the second highest totals was 41-55. Thus, the age profile of these cases parallels those seen in other countries in H1N1 infected patients.
Isolates from other countries, including recent isolates from samples from fatal cases In Sau Paula, Brazil had changes at position 225 in the receptor binding domain (D225G and D225N). These recent changes in Brazil raise concerns that there are similar changes in Ukraine.
It is likely that a lack of suspect changes would have led to an announcement that no significant changes were found. Instead WHO has remained silent since Thursday, as concerns increase.
Sequencing should have been largely completed last week and the presence or absence of regional markers should be clear. Release of the sequences or a list of polymorphisms under further investigation would be useful.
The silence on the sequences continues to increase concerns.
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November 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
WTF IS GOING ON?
Is there a plauge going on globally, if so how come I haven’t ran into a person thats sick yet?
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
H1N1 is a crude designation, and it reffers to two properties of flu virus propagation, and not its RNA.
The fact is that in same “container” described as H1N1 could be various “contents”, or virus RNA.
Hot ham&cheese Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Duty now, for the future, spuds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf4eu5y0418
AlreadyDead Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Chick in the photo probably already has it. Bare hands – handing out death.
InvestigatEverything Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
When they finally release their “killer version” of this virus, 50% of the earth’s population will be eliminated. Better start building your immune system now, eat healthy, get in shape, because when it hits it will hit hard.
Tailgunner Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
But, I’m confused… I though it attacked health immune systems, causing a blood storm in the body, simply because the immune e system is so strong?
I can see it now, the only people who will survive are the fat-asses who shop at Wall-Mart and only eat in restaurants with sneeze guards.
Patriot_in_Arms Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Man, the Ukraine President, or whatever she is, is freaking HOT!!! That’s the first picture I’ve seen of her without a mask on. Total babe if you ask me : )
??? Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
geez, dude, keep your pants on. u act like u never saw a female before! They showed her face (uncovered) in an article a couple of weeks ago and you should have seen all the comments of guys just DROOLING! Ridiculous. I practically had to spray this message/comment board with Lysol before I typed. Lust is so disgusting and guys look like complete IDIOTS and MORONS and caveman when they see a female. She doesn’t even have to be seen from the neck down and they just go crazy. Weird.
ghost Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
ah shut up. she IS hot!
Cindy Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 3:27 am
This virus is going to be the next global pandemic. As its making its way around the globe as is it recombining itself and is becoming more deadly from when it emerged in April in Mexico. This is deathly serious!! Please pray for those people in Ukraine – they are our brothers and sisters in Christ for those who believe…
AreYouConcerned Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
There was a report that planes were spaying just before the
flu outbreak occured. Are chemtrails real? You decide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ6Aifq8qdw
Neptune Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Yeah, my question was spraying what? Residents reported they were told something to quell the H1N1 virus and to stay inside that day. Oh really!
Cindy Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 3:44 am
I’m concerned because I have seen chemtrail spraying on a daily basis out here where I live. They start flying in the morning and than they do late afternoon spraying. I’m wondering what is being sprayed and is this causing a cytokin storm and is breaking down our immunity so when this virus comes around it will be more lethal and kill us off. I feel sick to my stomach when I see these toxins being sprayed in the air.. Knowing that children play outdoors when at school, families out watching their children play soccer, sports, people out in their gardens etc… Please pray for us out here…
some random guy Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Same here and I live in Australia, they sprayed this afternoon and it’s been 3 hours and the contrail is still there same as everyday this week and this is the first time in 4 years that i have seen chemtrails. And we are seeing storms in the middle of the day in summer and it is still hot when the storm is going then later that day it’s bright and there is no sign that it had been raining. And when I am outside my eyes start burning.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
StarinaNovak:
If I am understanding you, correctly, you are referring to H1N1 as a “container” which the biowarfare types can use as the “transmission” device to propagate WHATEVER biological HORROR they and their Bankster “masters” see fit to inflict upon us. They could, for example, “wrap” H1N1 around a “geneered” super-bubonic plague, or even a relatively “standard” version of Ebola, and wreck the entire world’s societal fabric. Either of these biological warfare disasters could EASILY wipe out one person in four, on a worldwide basis. H1N1 could even be used to “package and transmit” a deadly plague which normally could NOT be easily transmitted, thereby turning a less-than-spectacular, ” mild” pandemic into a truly “Global Killer”!
Truth Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 10:01 am
They are probably fine tuning the engineered virus(es). The H1N1 was not as lethal as they would have liked so they are trying new mutations.
zinc Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I think it was always planned this way. Put a mild virus out, pretend its dangerous, martial law, and then a real virus can come (or at least the threat of one).
Rock Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
I think you are right Truth. When this pneumonic plague is released the U.S. it will be when the dollar collapses and they clean out everyone’s bank accounts during a Bank Holiday. The plague will keep everyone scared and at home instead of marching on Washington. It will also quell the population so there will not be too much resistance.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I think they planned it that way from the beginning!! They even left the window open for the possibility of needing to cause the mutations! There have always been viruses and disease on this planet, as long as there has been life, but I truly believe that this is the first time that a life-form has used this type of thing against it’s own!!!
And I refer to the first part of the twentyth century on!
jeff Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
My mom in Ukraine still says it’s not true. I read her this article
bbSEE? Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
who reported 7 20 min before? where did false report before irack? who is the liar?
Taylor Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I’ve known two people personally so far who have had it.
They got sick (one of them still is)
but got over it (are getting over it)
Nepa Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I am sure that is the same thing alot people said back in 1918 before it started to spread to their country.
AZ88 Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 6:31 am
according to the german news agency bild.de GlaxoSmithKline has agreed with the german gov to produce a new H1N1 vaccine specific for pregnant women without Adjuvans.(Using PENDEMRIX now)
Meanwhile ‘CSL Biotherapies’ an australia based pharma co will ship 150.000 H1N1 vaccines to germany until the new adjuvans-free vaccines will arrive to germany by the end of november.
source: bild.de
November 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
How much illness is going to reap it’s reward before, oh before?
Lady Liberty weeps.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:52 am
satan is building his endtime empire. all these pandemic are designed to get college kids to buy video games.
CyberMiguel Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 10:50 am
yeh, right…and I’m the King of England.
retard.
Matthew McDaniel Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Oh, no Satan aye? Well, death will ride a pale horse, and a humanity increasingly denying the existence of God or his work will gladly be marched to the lemming cliffs by the dragon. Death and destruction. Get used to it, you ain’t seen anything yet.
Truth Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death’s construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait ’til their judgement day comes
Yeah!
Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig’s crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
Oh lord yeah!
buddywhasisname Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Beauty song!!!
Jim Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head?
We’ll just pass him there
Why should we even care?
He was turned to steel
In the great magnetic field
When he travelled time
For the future of mankind
Nobody wants him
He just stares at the world
Planning his vengeance
That he will soon unfold
Now the time is here
For Iron Man to spread fear
Vengeance from the grave
Kills the people he once saved
Nobody wants him
They just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
Now he has his revenge
Heavy bolts of lead
Fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast as they can
Iron Man lives again!
KT Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
there is medicine available, and counseling, for mental illnesses such as yours.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
s--- just got real.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
i have to rub it in and say im first. not that it matters im here to be informed while i enjoy not having a job. but now my job is to protect my family and those around me. so carry on stay off of dirty planes. learn to hold your breath, wash your hands before you pee…
Word Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Newsflash!!!!!!!!!!! You’re not first.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
And after you pee.
witman Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Who cares what happens after. You just have to make sure you wash before.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Centralized power to dictate and manipulate human consciousness as it relates to the Swine Flu pandemic is too dangerous. People need to be checking up on the WHO just in case. Once an outbreaks occurs in a sovereign nation, the WHO arrives within days invited or uninvited. Most often, these sovereign nations will accept and adopt recommendations set forth by the WHO sometimes without double checking first due to the urgency of the situations. The planet needs safeguards in place in case the WHO is tainted or is in error. Read up on daily Swine Flu Updates without the usual bulls--- at http://fluhealer.blogspot.com
Liz Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Thankyou so much phfaty for http://fluhealer.blogspot.com
Everyone go see !! Re. Serbia, Bulgaria, Poland.
See video of Polish health minister entreating cabinet to refuse vaccine.
She says should we do what’s best for the Polish people or what’s best for the pharmaceutical companies ?
Go go go !
We gotta pay attention to other countries.
WE AWAIT THE TIME Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
this fluhealer blog is just a copy and paste from here.
Whats the point in this ?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I have always said there are a lot of sick people in this world.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
yeah, look at washington dc
kev in wisco Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
d.c. the one place that nobody would mind having a 100% fatality rate
roaddog6 Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
nobody in the entire world! lol
November 10th, 2009 at 10:08 am
The “Baxter Flu” in the Ukraine needs to be investigated and WHO needs to be investigated also. We can not trust these people who work for the UN because they have openly expressed the desire to cull the population of the world and will stop at nothing.
Could we have caught them “red-handed?” Josephe Moshe risked his life so we would know their intentions.
Where is Josephe?
the logic of truth Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:17 am
In Israel of course !
Rob the patriot Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:53 am
He’s probably 10 feet under…………..
Hawg Washington Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Moshe probably saved himself by his very public freakout. about 100 dead microbiologists lately are a good motive for a freakout. more power to Moshe. he’s too famous now for Mossad to finish off.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I’ve read numerious articles about concerns involving the H1N1 virus outbreaks in the Ukraine here for the last few weeks and now this report states that the present number of people who are said to be affected is one million . The World Health Organization (WHO) is now remaining silent since Thursday as their concerns increase
about a rapid progression of the infection in a large number of patients, suggesting genetic changes in the H1N1 virus ?
Of the only 90 people who have died from this outbreak , it is reported as a classical H1N1 linked hemorrhagic pneumonia which led to the “total destruction” of both lungs ?
Wait a minute , the classical symptoms of the swine flu are Fever , Sore Throat , Cough , Chills and Fatigue , Body Aches , Headache and occasionary Vomiting and Diarrhea , it says NOTHING about hemorrhagic pneumonia even in severe cases where H1N1 moves deeper into the lungs and causes viral pneumonia .
Hmmm? Oseltamivir ( a.k.a.Tamiflu ) was dispensed to a unknown number of Ukraianians as a second option from a H1N1 inoculation as a prevenitive to the H1N1 virus with results of No Large Changes or Resistance .
The possible side affects of Oseltamivir ( a.k.a.Tamiflu ) are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and headache , simular to the H1N1 symptoms but other Adverse Drug Reactions have been reported in POST-marketing surveillance including: Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis, Cardiac Arrhythmia, Seizure, Confusion, Aggravation of Diabetes, and HAEMORRHAGIC COLITIS ( BLEEDING ) !
Let me say that one more time , other Adverse Drug Reactions to Oseltamivir , or Tamiflu , include HAEMORRHAGIC COLITIS ( BLEEDING ) !
The World Health Organization’s silence on the sequences into a supposed genetic change in the H1N1 virus continues to increase concerns ? Politicians and Media reports continue to downplay the significance by citing a small number of lab confirmed cases or more traditional pneumonia deaths, the number of fatal hemorrhagic cases was UNUSUALLY LARGE ?
No , the silence we are seeing here may be the fact that Oseltamivir , or Tamiflu may be the CAUSE of concern here , not the H1N1 virus ! I think the Downplay here from Politicians , Media and the World Health Organization has confirmed that . This recent mysterious H1N1 flu outbreak may very well be a Man-Made outbreak of Adverse Drug Reactions ( ADR ) from Oseltamivir ( a.k.a.Tamiflu ) ! ! !
I think the ploy here is to Convince the Public to get their H1N1 inoculation and then if there are going to be any adverse reactions to it , then they can blamed it on Oseltamivir , or Tamiflu and any other alternative prevenitive .
Neptune Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Infowars, I have put a valid email address. Hangtime55, hemorrhagic colitis is of the intestinal tract not lungs. Bleeding in lungs is a great concern. Do not believe a mutation of H1N1 after all of this talk last few months. Fear it is more than we know, being helped along.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:41 am
when digging up old medicine bottles and such i think of africa and the diseases people dig up.. ive thought of oil reserves and what that might get. ive noticed butane powered stuff needs more gas to do the same job making me thing were getting screwed on our gas bill and just now i thought how ingenious it would be to deliver an airbourne illness to your house in the same manner. click click poof. just a thought as i build debris huts in the woods.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
it seems that life is getting more and more unfair. Last time it was the bird flu – people got sick, some died, birds alike. Now its supposedly swine flu, people are getting sick, some died, but all the swines just LMAO, not to mention how hard are laughing the real swines behind this …
November 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am
The latest according to Jane Burgermiester who is suing Baxter and the WHO. http://www.theflucase.com
Mass vaccinations
Last Updated on Monday, 12 October 2009 09:12 Written by Jane Burgermeister Wednesday, 05 August 2009 23:00
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In the next few weeks, you could be forced to take a toxic vaccine against the “swine flu“, be quarantined and restricted in your travel because the World Health Organization has declared a global pandemic emergency of the highest level.
In the next few weeks, you could be forced to take a toxic vaccine against the „swine flu“, be quarantined and restricted in your travel and all because the World Health Organization has declared a global pandemic emergency of the highest level, namely level 6, and so triggered global martial law in spite of the evidence that the swine flu is harmless.
As a result of this pandemic level 6 declaration, the USA, Europe and other countries have moved from civil law to military law.
Refusing a WHO-mandated vaccination has been criminalized under provisions related to public health emergencies. Police can use deadly force against “criminal suspects,” that means, they can take you to prison or even shoot you if you refuse.
There is, however, scientific evidence that the WHO mandated vaccine will be toxic and potentially deadly.
WHO developed a method to use vaccines to kill people in three steps which were described in memos dated from 1972 in a three-pronged approach, to weaken the immune system, inject a huge dose of virus into the body, which the weakened immune system cannot fight and inject a adjuvant that will create an inflammatory reaction and a cytokine storm and so kill in three steps as outlined in the 1972 WHO memos.
Also, the vaccines will have the adjuvant squalene known to cause the Gulf War Syndrome. The vaccine will be rushed through without adequate safety trials.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Current mood: tested
1918
In 1918 50-90 million people more then all wars in history combined died of the birdflu(spanish flu )American Soldiers that were Vaccinated in spain and brought the bird flu to America! They are now trying to give us Tamiflu which has been found(GOOGLE BAXTER CAUGHT) to have live H5N1 in order to try and grow birdflu once someone incubates(WE ARE HUMAN TEST TUBES) BIRDFLU its 100 times worse then swineflu and super contagious and will kill millions! Theres congressmen who are trying to pass laws to force us to take super cancerous and Super Deadly TAMIFLU. They added 4 times the amount of TYMARASOL as normal already super poisen especially for kids. Tymarasol is half mercury in weight. And even if it does not pass congress. The patriot act already allows forced vaccination all they have to do is create a fake pandemic(GOOGLE SWINEFLU INVENTED BIOWEAPON) like the SWINEFLU. FOR FORCED VACCINATIONS. USA has concentration camps built all over america to house 50million americans at one time. US(UN) army is training as we speak preparing to lock you in a camp and force vacinate your kids(if you refuse your 3 shots of cancer yes up to 3). America has already purchased and have 180million(More coming) viles of cancer rdy to mass kill our pregnant women and children at schools first rdy to GIVE CANCER TO OUR CHILDREN!! Obama has stock in this vaccine. He personally passed laws to grant imunity to vaccine makers if anyone gets hurt! The Gov and DOCTORS ARE REFUSING THEMSELVES TO TAKE THIS VACCINE AND DO NOT CARE AS LONG AS THEY MAKE BILLIONS!WAKEUP!!
MOST DAMNING EVIDENCE I’VE SEEN SO FAR GOOGLEVIDEO BIRDFLUHOAX!!
Google camp fema Google tymarasol
Google squaline(linked to golfwar syndrome)
Google birdflu soldier
Google infowars.com
Google swineflu
Google vaccine fetal tissue(aborted babys)
Google microbiologist murdered(100’s accidentally. hit by cars,ect? because they knew?)
Google wayofthemaster.com(way to heaven)
THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS IS TO INFORM EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! PLEASE COPY AND SHARE THIS INFO!!
YOUR CHILD IS THE FIRST TO GET THIS FORCED VACCINE THE TIME FOR PEACEFUL PROTEST IS NOW OR IT WILL BE TO LATE!!
Veronica Baxter Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
“America has already purchased and have 180million(More coming) viles of cancer ”
Could you provide a link to substatiate this “statistic”?
If you cannot, it is merely gobbledegook.
It is called “rabblerousing”
Link please?
Crazy Jane Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Raul – it”s only one theory that the 1918-1920 Spanish Flu came from Europe. There is another theory that it originated in Kansas.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Look at all the scared silly sheep running around in fear.
This flu has killed 200 out of one million infected…
November 10th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Are you tired of the crap? Of getting your posts deleted before they get read? Tired of only Alex’s opinion being heard. Come to our forum and Post your comments. You can start topics, post replies, meet new friends in the patriot community. We are growing fast with 100’s of hits a day. Come check us out. More information about the swine Flu as well.
http://thesecondrevolution.viviti.com/
November 10th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alex is deleting posts again. I guess he doesnt want a solution to this problem. HE likes his money too well for that.
GIVE ME A REASON FOR DELETING ALL MY POSTS !!!!!!!
roaddog6 Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
maybe you posted at the same time as somebody else. When that happens, one post doesn’t get posted. relax. yesterday my post didn’t get posted for 15 minutes. Then, there it was.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
INFO WARS is a JOKE …. Stopping information is more like it. He wants you angry and STUPID
James Smith Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
NO, stupid is believing anything the US Federal Government say’s! I’ve viewed Mr. Alex Jones’s Videos for free but I bought many copy’s to help him in his quest. Mr. Alex Jones isn’t the enemy! Your US Federal Government are the Sociopath control power freaks. There’s no cure for a Sociopath. No medication will help! I dare you to look up the definition of a Sociopath; it fits most of them to a tee! You might say it takes one to know one. I might be a Sociopath but after reading the definition I sure don’t want that character trait or there behavior. Sociopath; check it out take a look-see! http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html These people are in fact mentally ill, GET IT, everyone wants to know “why” would your own US Government murder millions, they the US Gov. are clueless and will continue to behave like Sociopath control power freaks until they’re removed, preferably jailed in the new Fema camps, wouldn’t that be poetic Justice!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Holy Mackerel. Hemorrhagic – Bleeding into the lungs, would render them unable to function.
Google Hemorrhagic diseases. There is an excellent book called “Osler’s Web” which is a true story of medical experimentation. Also, ” Hot Zone ” which came out some time ago, very good inside look at experimentation with monkeys and the introduction of viruses into the states.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Don’t forget about Gaza as the people fight for basic survival against the tyrannical rule of America and Israel.
Please find time to view this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkgWGX5Ap_E
November 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Every bit of what we are experiencing can be found in the prophecies of The Holy Bible!
EVERY BIT!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Still, 174 deaths is not a very large kill-factor with 1,M people infected.
The question is what makes their lungs fill up? If it is due to an excess of junk-food, then America is truly ripe for a total wipe-out.
And, since, “all we care about is America, and the American’s sense of prosperity…
CyberMiguel Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
actually, that’s like 0.0001% of mortality rate, which is ridiculously low.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
It is so hard to know what is going on in Ukraine. It seems that the WHO would want to fear monger a pnuemonic plague as much as they could. Since they are not then either it is not true or they know that this one there is no cure or even treatment for really unless in the first 24hours. Maybe they are waiting to get the universal health care in place first. I really don’t know why Alex doesn’t get to the bottom of all this. If there was a riot there you would see cell phone videos on youtube or people blogging all over but with this there is silence? I just don’t get it.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Look at the dumb sheep herders that cannot get the statistics right because he is to busy trying to screw the sheep. Sorry Dave but the numbers are far more than 200. s--- man its almost 200 in just Ukraine. Hang in there Dave because we all make mistakes. Even us dumb little scared sheeps running around in fear.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Ok,lets say that it’s 500 out of 1 million,that’s 1/20th of of one percent which isn’t anything to get frightened over.
Think!,every single year in the US we have about 3,000 deaths per month from seasonal flu,just imagine how those numbers could be hyped for the unthinking masses in order to induce hysteria and acceptance of draconian government clampdowns.
Your mistake is not thinking,which is the deadliest kind.
Doc Holliday Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Right Dave, just as Alex says, most sheeple would go along with outlawing water if you call it Dihydrogen Monoxide. And we see in another article here that Mark Dice couldn’t get sheeple to pay 50 bucks for a one ounce gold coin worth 1100 bucks. Those dying from this flu may have subclinical Scurvy, from severe deficiency of Vit C. They may be recluses who don’t get any sun, and are severely deficient in Vit D. They may be bad alcoholics with impaired immune systems, or their immune systems may be wrecked from too many vaccines, etc. The death toll in Ukraine is very low for a bad epidemic.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
By the way,those that die of the flu normally are killed by the resulting pneumonia,they aren’t “killed by the flu”,they’re killed by the infections that follow it
This isn’t the pneumonic plague(that kills 95 of those infected)
This isn’t the boogie man
This is the media scaring the s--- out of little girls who don’t use their minds enough.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
That isn’t very many fatalities at all for an epidemic. If it was that dangerous, I would suspect far more fatalities. Maybe the fatalities occur in people who are damaged from vaccines. Maybe the fatalities are people who get secondary bacterial pneumonia. Even though they say they were largely previously healthy, maybe they are drunks or malnourished in some aspect.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
We need to keep an open mind on this Ukraine thing. It could possibly be a PSYOP thrown at us who read the alternative media. The MSM mentions 1 million have H1N1 but is quiet on the Hemorrhagic Fever aspect. If you Google “Ukraine Hemorrhagic” mostly alternative media and conspiracy sites. Aside from the govt clamping down, some reports say it’s business as usual from witnesses in the Ukraine. If people were massively dying from this, wouldn’t the U.S. media hype it up to further scare Americans into taking the Vaccine
November 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
…and if you look at the epidemiology of AIDS, you see (as Dr. Len Horowitz documents in his book ‘Emerging Viruses’) that HIV/AIDS was obviouly laced into the smallpox vaccine that the W.H.O. gave to many in central Africa- Most of those who got that vaccine are dead from AIDS. same with all the queer guys who lined up for the original Hep-B vaccine here in the U.S. Lo and behold- they’re mostly all dead too. The W.H.O. ’s scientists may not have been the ones who laced HIV into the smallpox vacine batch but they nonetheless deployed it, and they know it, but they certainly won’t talk about it.
originofaids.com aidsbiowar.com google ” HR 15090 ”
It was the documentation that AIDS was laboratory-made that got me so pissed off back in the early 90’s that I started looking into all the other $hit the evil doers have been doing, which of course led to my awakening about the Illuminati/Masons/CFR etc. and their lonf term goal of a ‘New World Order’.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Perfect timing for the infected world to converge upon South Africa for the World Cup next year.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I am thinking that because H1N1 seems opportunistic in that it will perhaps target to kill immune system compromised individuals, then maybe the spike is due to the fact the immune systems of many living in the Ukraine has been compromised by A LETHAL COMBINATION of pollution, radiation and poor diet.
This country has poorer food and food distribution than is found in many countries. The Ukraine also has been suffering the radiation after-effects of Chernobyl in its population for years (remember when they were sending their young abroad for radiation free vacations and periods of time). Of course they also have pollution affecting them – lots of it – especially in cities and near major waterways. What comes around goes around in the sense that if you allow things to deteriorate you eventually suffer some consequences.
The main shock here may be to find out that the people living in the Ukraine all have somewhat compromised immune systems.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
HUGE LIE FROM THE UKRAINE
NOVEMBER 10, 2009. Some lies are wobbly. You know, a little off. Other lies are enormous. The current reports on flu-like illness in the Ukraine fall into the enormous category. Bulls--- like this arrives on steaming silver platters served from the top of the power structure. In this case, we’re talking about the Ukraine Health Ministry and the World Health Organization. In a planetary contest, you’d be hard-pressed to defeat WHO for whoppers.
Two days ago, the Kyiv Post, Ukraine’s “leading English-language newspaper,” duly parroted the nation’s Health Ministry, reporting that, since October, there have been, get this, nearly a million new (936,804) cases of “flu-like sickness and acute respiratory illness.”
Sure. And WHO is hopping on that bandwagon, implying and suggesting that the culprit is H1N1, Swine Flu. Swine Flu, which everywhere else in the world is contributing to a mild flu season, is attacking people in the Ukraine like an H-bomb.
Must be a gene in Ukrainians that makes them susceptible. I’m sure a scientist will float that hypothesis any day now.
No, folks. There are two possibilities here. Either the Ukraine Health Ministry is lying like mad about the actual case numbers, or we’re looking at mass poisoning of the population. And I don’t mean poison from germs.
Chemicals. Radiation. Something on that order. Acute poisoning. To reach a million people, it’s most likely something in the air. Only if the million people were living in one city could it be a spill of some sort.
Germs don’t travel and infect this fast. And even if they could travel at lightning speed, they wouldn’t infect people unless their immune systems were already in very desperate shape. You could go to the poorest regions of Africa, where people live in horrendous conditions and starve on a routine basis, where germs sweep through populations and kill people already on the verge of death, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a million people becoming much, much sicker in one month.
These reports coming out of the Ukraine are a cover story for something else. It remains to be seen what that is. But it’s not Swine Flu.
Here is the piece from the Kyiv Post:
Pandemic claims 9 more, toll climbs to 144
Registered cases of flu-like sickness and acute respiratory illnesses (ARI) since October are nearing 1 million, according to the country’s Heath Ministry, which on Nov. 7 reported 936, 804 cases and 144 deaths since the outbreak of the pandemic in October.
That’s 65, 767 more ARI cases and nine more deaths than the Health Ministry reported on Nov. 6. The Heath Ministry recorded increases of 237, 160 and 40, respectively, a day earlier on Nov. 5.
The number of flu-related and ARI cases registered daily since mid-October presently exceeds the epidemic threshold in 16 of 27 of the country’s oblasts, according to the latest statistics.
An international team of World Health Organization (WHO) experts is continuing its work in Ukraine, investigating an outbreak of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza.
Making sure the right information gets to the wider public – particularly information on the simple measures that everyone can take to reduce risks – is just one of the tasks of the WHO, which is helping devise an information outreach strategy using trained medical staff to explain what people can do to stop H1N1 pandemic (H1N1) 2009.
JON RAPPOPORT http://www.nomorefakenews.com
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November 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I just talked to a guy from Ukraine, whose parents still live there. Definitely confirmed the bloody lungs thing. He didn’t seem to want to talk about it, but said his family was well and that people are wearing masks. I was hoping this was not true …
November 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
In Chile (my country) when pandemic arrived, there were ’bout 3000 infected cases, give or take. Know how many people actually died because of the AH1N1 virus? around 100 (at most)… that’s 3% of the infected people, which is kind of low.
AND…most of those people had already pre-existant conditions (such as hypertension, morbid overwheight, tabacism and stuff like that), so the virus itself is pretty harmless. Heck, even the healthcare minister said that the normal seasonal flu has higher mortality rate than the swine flu and that the media was hyping it all.
Thank god I live in a country where some ministers at least have the decency to tell the truth and give a f--- about big pharma companies. ahahah….I still remember he said that no vaccine was necessary unless people wanted to waste more money and that 3-days in bed and oseltamivir for 7 days was all it needed (and people did that and recovered).
November 10th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
…..and it’s easier to see the “BIG PICTURE” too!
November 10th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Check this out…
http://blog.kievukraine.info/
November 10th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
check this out..
http://blog.kievukraine.info/
November 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
the media hyped up the death of a northern ca resident and by the looks of his pic the guy was huge. he had been in the hospital for a month. of course we’ll never hear whether or not he got his regular flu shot or swine flu shot. obvious obesity with probable diabetes, and or heart condition/high blood pressure and other possible unknown factors.
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November 10th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I got an email yesterday saying some guy thats known got the swine flu vaccination and got really sick. I said he was lucky he didn’t die.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
why would they be silent? Are they hiding something?
November 10th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I believe that the samples taken prove that a different PLAGUE (pneumonic aka BLACK PLAGUE?) is spreading, but WHO would much rather call it a “mutated H1N1″ to justify mandatory vaccines. Even though Ukraine victims autopsied had BLACK LUNGS-from the lung temp. reaching 130 deg, F and MELTING-a la BLACK PLAGUE-WHO is clinging to this “mutated H1N1″ crap to scare the sheeple.
Here in the northeast, it seems that almost everyone is sick-only 11 of my child’s 21 fellow students made it to school today, and there are MANY entire families ill; our entire family had the flu two weeks ago, and we were very sick, but were diagnosed over the phone. My DH’s flu progressed to pneumonia, but we’re all 100% healthy now. I’d take the flu over the flu vaccine ANYDAY! Warning: This flu is highly contagious-if you haven’t been infected, I recommend skipping handshakes, hugs, shared foods and drinks until it passes through. Not sure if it was the swine flu or another virus sprayed on us via chemtrails, but it really sucked.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Roaddog,
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Sometimes peoples comments won’t post.
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Not because comments posting at the same time.
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And not because of them ” breaking the rules “.
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I don’t know why.
Whoever is playing editor just picks and chooses I guess.
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The reason I mention this is because I’ve noticed you telling a couple of people about the posting at the same time thing .
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.PEACE
November 10th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I’m from Brazil and here I dont heard anything about Ukraine in media… Something is wrong and I want to know what’s happening…
November 11th, 2009 at 12:54 am
The NWO is crazy to launch this in Ukraine. They have some of the most beautiful women in the world! Who are they gonna hump after they kill everyone?
November 11th, 2009 at 1:05 am
How come alex hasn’t picked up on the Jospeh Moshe story yet? This is a big deal, wake up Infowars!
November 11th, 2009 at 2:11 am
The number of deaths is not very high when world wide each year it is expected 250,000 deaths. These deaths due to flu but often in weakened individuals. Maybe it is a testing ground for genetic reccombinants of viral RNA. The one they are going to use for “the” vaccine. The population has to be microchipped and the only way I can see this happening is by a man made (modified) virus that would infect a huge amount of the population without vaccintation. Of course it can be done. It happens in nature and all you atheist think Iacomplex cell can come out of a pool of slime. So what can come out of lab?
What do you all really think this vaccine scare is about? No it is not dollars or killing the population with a bit of mercury or one in a thousand dying from auto-immune disease.
November 11th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Go to COSTCO and get some Liquid Vitamin D3.
It comes in two quart sized bottles per package, for about $17.00.
Take one tablespoon full dose per day, per the instructions and you will NOT get the flu!
STAY HEALTHY and UNAFRAID!
All our neighbors are coming down with the flu, here ion Los Angeles, yet we are NOT.
The ONLY difference between us and them is they are getting flu shots, and they are NOT taking Vitamin D3.
They should, but then, we are not doctors, so why pay attention to us?
Yet still, we are NOT getting sick, even with so many who are all around us.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Impeach Chimp II:
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November 11th, 2009 at 4:25 am
I am shocked by the sheer number of bio weapons labs, who are the ridiculous psychopaths financing these mad scientists. If regular people did this they would be arrested for terrorism.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
November 11th, 2009 at 4:51 am
Is this going to be planetary biowarfare. Will it be the same stains that have been found in South America — and what are the odds. And if it was, would the WHO try to cover it up.
November 11th, 2009 at 11:44 am
This is truly disturbing my frigging god, those bastard eugenicists they stop at nothing to gain what they desire. They may at this time have no one to answer to at this time but let me tell you they are not going to get away from god. Thank you Alex for keeping us up to date on this situation, its nice to see that at least someone has the balls to tell the truth..
November 16th, 2009 at 12:20 am
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November 17th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Without panicking or playing politics are we treating this epidemic seriously enough?