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Widespread Job Losses
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Phil Izzo
The Wall Street Journal
October 22, 2009
Labor-market stress continued to be widespread in September as all but seven states reported job losses last month.
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Just New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Indiana, Delaware, South Carolina and New Hampshire managed to eke out gains in employment in September on a seasonally adjusted basis. Taking out the seasonal adjustments, which aim to take into account volatile factors such as ending summer jobs, every state posted a decline last month. On an adjusted basis, New York took the biggest hit with 81,700 jobs lost.
The news looked less dire in the state-by-state unemployment rates. The jobless rate was flat or declined in 27 states. Michigan still has the highest unemployment rate by far at 15.3%, as the state continues to suffer along with American auto manufacturers. Housing bubble hot zones Nevada, California and Florida still have rates over 10%, though California’s rate dropped a bit from August. North and South Dakota have the lowest jobless rates. Fifteen states and the District of Columbia have unemployment rates higher than the national average of 9.8%.
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October 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
“Buddy, can you spare a job?”
No More Jobs Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The jobs are gone for good folks. All the good jobs have been exported, they’re not coming
back. Very few jobs are being created, and will never be enough good ones to rebound this
broken economy. The congress stood back and watched all the jobs go overseas and did
nothing but line their pockets with BRIBE money. Hell, when an asshole like sen. macain
makes comments that exported jobs only makes us stronger, you know we are fucked!
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October 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
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Breathng Easy Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I speak with businesses everyday, gone is the confidence of recovery. Instead, the typical American confidence has been replaced with a sign of resignation, only thankful they still have their job. Gone is the hope for a better business climate any time soon. Many business owners feel they cannot survive another year.
And yes, the jobs are gone for good. If you are 50+ and unemployed, unless you have a sought after skill, you have seen your last decent paycheck.
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Breathing Easy,
Let me say as a small business owner myself, the economy, and massive unemployment has hit, even a one man show such as myself. People no longer have the money to pay me to come on site and fix their pc’s, and instead ask if there is a discount for bringing them in. I will clue all of you in on a secret, it cost more to own a business, with a store front, than to do something completely mobile. Here’s what I’d have to shell out to do my business, on a store front level.
1 employee to watch the merchandise… 1,000 a month, easy.
Stock for computers, software, etc…. 20,000 minimum (divide by 12) 1,666.66 a month
Electricity…. 300 a month
Water 50 a month
telephone 100 a month
internet access 100 a month
Mortgage on a storefront 1000
So, I’d be spending an extra 4K a month, period… for people to bring there stuff in to me… which would mean, if anything, I’d have to charge MORE to have them bring it in to me, not less.
The point is, many business owners, like myself, decided to pull away from their store fronts, and do their services out of their home or do them mobile. Look to locksmiths, plumbers, etc… if they have an office or store front, it is not the life blood of their operations. With all the unemployment coming soon, you will see many store fronts die off, as they have in my area, and more little guys, making house calls… imagine doctors and lawyers making house calls, because it’s more economically viable!
Also, factor in, that as unemployment increases, less people will be able to pay for your services, so consider bartering with them, I’ll fix your computer system, if you’ll fix my car… or I’ll fix your plumbing, if you will run me some new electric lines.
Things are only going to get worse… if you are unemployed, look at picking up a skill you can use, if a completely screwed up economy… like locksmithing *which is one of my hobbies*, agriculture so you can eat, or something that you can depend on, even if the economy completely collapses, they can’t take away specialized training or your mind. Use those to prepare today, for the hardships of tomorrow… and know that the best laid plans of mice and men, tend to fall all to hell, when the shtf.
There is no confidence in the economy, because there are no more consumers…because they are all unemployed… people are starting to schedule work with me, a month in advance, because they are waiting for their disability or unemployment check.
Lisa Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 8:51 am
A very good point
anti/PRO Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
you say they are gone for good folks? I am confused at what you mean “NO MORE JOBS”. I guess what you mean is that almost every $8/hr+ job i can find a posting for requires a credit/ background/ drug test/ and 4 years of school. that makes a good person right? To clean something or to fix something we need the best people.No more collage drop outs who smoke weed on the weekends allowed.
this america as we called it needs to die so we the people can have/take it back and make it work. not so globalist can own and seize everything.
Whitney Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Workers are also being imported from other countries constantly. American companies are paying $30,000 a year just for just their visas, and are willing to deal with all the paper work for entry level and mid level workers with salary pay at $40,000 to 65,000 a year – white collar entry and mid-level jobs – This has been going on for a very long time but has excellerated in the last five years, and continues at a strong rate. They get health benefits vacation pay, the whole package deal. I’m experienced and skilled but American so they won’t employee me, in my own country.
I know this for a fact.
Whitney Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I also saw this ad on Craigs list which is true. Too many scam jobs on craigslist.
“the problem is all of these jobs on craigslist are either scams or require experience where experience is not needed (a sandwich maker position that requires 2 years experience? Come on!). I am already qualified for many different types of jobs, and am a very fast learner and hard worker. I need to pay rent and eat. This is essential. Please consider me for your job.”
Rolla Rollover Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I was scammed on Criag’s list. $779.00 owed me but never paid. After cafefully looking at the “job,”and reading the fine print, it was designed to fail. The company was RSB Field Services.
PO'd Marine Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
No kidding bro. I’ve been laid off four freakin’ times in the last two years, and am currently unemployed…..again. Hey at least we still have the nice sunny days here in Florida.
jenchillada Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 am
At least you’ve had 4 jobs! I was laid off last Nov 2008 here in Sunny Florida (where they claim to pay in sunshine.. to justify our lower wages). No JOBS. NONE. Nobody can afford to pay us thanks to our Gov! I’d move (after 35 yrs here) but, I can’t even afford that.. and move where? Where are jobs plentiful? At least we’ll always have plenty of fish and citrus fruits . blah
steve Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
“Will work for non-GMO food”
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 9:22 am
See, that’s just phunnie.
jim77 Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Welcome to capitolism sir. Everything is done for the benefit of the rich at a cost to the non- rich. Get use to it as it will never change.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Yet another reason why we shouldn’t have outsourced jobs overseas.
Thomas Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
“We” didn’t do it. The transnational coporations and the congress they own did it and they are not “we”.
Brandon Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Uh, “yes” we did. “We”, the American people (that includes all the corrupt politicians & the CEO’s of corporate conglomerates in the US) outsourced most of our jobs to countries who’s people are manufacturing things from soccer balls to god only knows for what… absolutely nothing. “We”, the American people, became entirely too “me first” rather than fight for our jobs. Why do you think the job market sucks today? The answer has been there for over 10 years.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 5:39 am
I think Thomas meant by “we,” the average American joe. In that case he’s right. “We” do not have the power over politicians, Capitalist banksters, CEO’S, and the Corporate conglomerates to prevent them from shipping jobs overseas. If “we” did, could they have gotten away with it? With the exception of politicians (who are bought and paid for by these capitalist Banksters), CEO’S, Corporate Conglomerates and the banksters themselves, are private institutions not legally or morally answerable to the politicians or general public.
The bottom line as to why American jobs have always been outsourced, as well as the reason why wages have always been low and non-livable (hence, the massive “credit” bubble of millions living beyond their means thru high interest loans), is really quite simple, and it has always been the same -in a word, it’s called GREED! Greed is the love of money or possessions.
“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. (1 Tim. 6:10).
steve Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
If you think “we” had any part in it, then I guess you also think “we” have a vote that means something. In case you haven’t noticed, it doesn’t matter what the “we” want. They do whatever they want. Just look at the obamacare mess. 85% of people are content with their current healthcare, but for some strange reason Obama is still trying to shove this eugenics program down our throats. So tell me, when this healthcare bill passes, and you know it will, are you going to sit back smugly and say it was the fault of “we” the people that the obamacare bill passed? Are you that naive? Have you really bought into the brainwashing that we are free and have a vote?
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
So true. There might have been a time when those “we” voted into office, actually worked in our best interest. But I simply don’t see that happening these days. They have abitrarily taken it upon themselves to decide and work for what “they” think and decide are our best interests. Actually, it is more likely they work for the best interests of the Corportions they have been bought by. That doesn’t include “us” who voted them in.
I tend to agree (unfortunately) with Stalin on this one: “Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” -Josef Stalin
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Would anyone be upset if I said that Ross Perot was right?
nowayout4u Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 am
Madman….Not @ all. As Ross said, about Nafta..” That sucking sound will be jobs leaving this country.”
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I knew Perot was right back then. But there is no stopping the Globalists, “free traders” and mega corps that bribe Congress on a daily basis.
Now Mexico is too expensive for corporate America, mexicans can make up to a $1.25 p/hour. Chinese communists can get labor done at .025 p/hour, child labor, prison labor, slave labor, all in poison factories. The communists don’t care about their people. And neither does the American corporations which now love Communisum because of the cheaplabor.
Chris H. Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
A – FUCKIN’ – MEN Brother!
Halleluja Motherfucker!
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Maybe all of us unemployed should stand on the corner in our towns and do work illegally without paying taxes.
If you make less than 3k it is legal to keep it.
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Become self employed, it’s one of the best solutions…
Self reliance, instead of dependence on the mega corporations … I trust myself a lot more than I do the people who own Best Buy.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 am
Easier said than done, even in a booming economy, much less in a depression. Where will your capital come from? Who will buy your products or services when everyone is cutting unnecessary expenses? Even in a good economy, the average start up fails within two years.
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 am
There are some jobs out there, that require very little start up capital.
For instance…
A lock out service, aka opening doors for someone who’s locked their keys up in their car, or forgot their keys in the house… you could go to lockpicks.com and spend around 200 dollars, and go to a local junkyard, and get your practice in.
Then you can expand on that, and become a repo man, or a full locksmith. Many ex con’s who were professional thieves started up their own, legit locksmith company, once they got out… and if an ex con can do it, anyone can.
90% of life is attitude Gary. You never really know what you are capable of doing, until you are forced to do it.
A computer repair company can also be started up, with knowledge more than tools… a few cable crimpers, a copy of the best known operating systems, good antivirus, etc… and the knowledge to use them all, and you can make decent money on your own.
Ragnar Benson wrote a book a long time ago, about the underground economy.
http://www.amazon.com/Ragnars-.....1581600119
The jobs and ideas he has in there, will survive even this depression.
The average start up fails, because they think you have to spend massive amounts of money, to make money, and end up spending all their cash on the initial cost of employee’s, a store front, stock, etc… I am suggesting doing something you are already familiar with, and something you more than likely have the tools to do, or can make the tools you need to get started, and making money, today… not waiting to be profitable 3 or 4 years from now. Don’t go in debt to do something, find something you love to do, and make a trade out of it if you can.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
Point taken, re: startup costs, but you haven’t addressed the soft market issue. Who’s going to buy from you when millions are out of work and people are cutting costs? What if what you’re familiar with is the very thing you’re having trouble in getting a job at (and it would be for most of us)? I do drafting/CAD, but the problem is that the same people who would buy freelance drafting/CAD services are the people I’m trying to get a job with. If they can’t afford to hire me as an employee, they can’t afford to hire me as a freelancer, either. Not only that, but in many freelance venues on the web, I’d have to compete with drafters from India and Pakistan who think a $5 flat fee for three days’ work is the motherlode. So, unless what you do is something you can sell to the general public, you’re back at square one again. In my field, the problem is that all the projects have dried up and very little is coming in. I’m getting resumes returned as undeliverable because the firms I sent them to are now out of business. The average Joe doesn’t buy drafting/CAD services unless he’s remodeling his home or wants to build a new home, but most people are losing their homes and money for home improvement has dried up, as well. Most of the construction you see going on is the result of funding that was committed to a couple of years ago.
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Gary,
You have explained to me, the reasons why your job and position are no longer viable. What you haven’t addressed or thought about, is how can you be viable again.
Negative thinking will lead you to negative situations.
So, those guys in India will do your cad drawings for 5 dollars a pop… ever thought about co oping your work through them, and charging say, 1/2 your normal rate, for not having to do anything, as a way of supplementing your income?
Also, since you have explained how your job is no longer viable, have you thought of moving on to something that does pay? The unemployment system positions most of us, to look for only jobs that we feel meet our range of experience, since your job is no longer viable, this frees you up to pursue a hobby or something that you enjoy, instead of a job… and also to seek out training for a job that will be viable.
Everything will be ok, if you are willing to be flexible, and to find work whatever the cost, even if you think it’s beneath you, because, lets face it, at your own admission, you have shown all of us exactly why your job is not viable, and will never be coming back to the states, so it’s time to buck up, and move on… get some additional training and work at Pixar, or how about taking that drafting skill and moving into animation and 3d graphics, video games, etc.
We are limited only by the limits we set upon ourselves… if you think your situation is hopeless, you will soon find you are in a hopeless situation.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
Madman,
Even when self-employed, you are still dependent and rweliant on the prevailing economy. As for self-employment, ever heard of the proverb: “It takes money to make money.”?
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
You are indeed reliant on the economy, but not so much as everyone else… you will quickly shift your business model from working for cash and checks, to cash only, and as things progress, to working for groceries, goods and services in a barter environment. What I am suggesting here to all the nay sayers, is simply this… who do you think has your best interest at heart, Walmart, or YOU. If you work things out properly, and actually plan on using barter in the future, instead of being enslaved to the mighty dollar, you will have a more sustainable business model than even walmart. I highly doubt that walmart will be willing to send a mechanic, or plumber out to work at your home for a goat and a loaf of homemade bread. When things get bad, those who are self sufficient, will be able to make this change over quickly, and survive.
Use your minds, and backbones, not your wallet to start your business.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
Right, but unless you have skills that are salable to a wide segment of the population, or to an niche market that is unaffected by the economy, you’re not going to find enough business to sustain yourself. In what I do, I might (big maybe) get one or two short-term temporary gigs, but once they’re done, I’m back to square one again. I can’t make a consistent living from short-term work assignments when it might be weeks or months between assignments – and that’s to say nothing of the severe competition for them. As I mentioned above, outsourcing is affecting my niche market. Many of the short-term projects available are being done by guys who live in Calcutta and can work for peanuts. As for doing something else that may be more marketable, well, first you have to acquire the skills if you don’t have them already, then you have to compete for work with people who are experienced at whatever you’re trying to break into. The point is, unless you have some marketable skill that people want, and there is enough work to sustain you, you’re not going to make a living, especially if no one is spending any money.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Exactly my point; thank you.
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
There are plenty of job re-education grants, etc out there, if you are willing to look into them. My aunt is 65 and back in college, because she was tossed out of a furniture job she held for 40 years… didn’t slow her down a bit, she went back to school, and is learning a new skill.
Hopelessness breeds hopelessness Gary… stand up, and sharpen your mind, and your skill set, on the government’s dime if need be…
http://www.students.gov/STUGOVWebApp/Public
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Madman,
I’d agree with you that I have my best interest in mind over that of the Wal-Marts out there. That goes without saying, and I have pity on anyone who doesn’t grasp this reality. I’ve always known that you are disposable to the Corporation -once they have used you up and exploited you for their profit or whatever else they can get, they toss you. I’ve never believed anyone but those who know and love me have my best interest in mind. But therein lies at least part of the problem -expecting others to have your best interest in mind when it’s simply not going to happen, regardless of how much hope or how many new sets of skills or re-education one acquires.
Your idea of bringing back the barter system makes sense; I can’t see where it would be any worse a system than we now have at this point.
I’ve also thought -several times- about re-education, but it would have to be only on a Grant, as there’s no freaking way I would go into further debt to return to school, unless (1) I had written guarantee that the new employment would last long enough to pay-off the loan, and (2) had written guarantee that, at the same time, I would make a decent cost-of-living sustainable wage for the entire length of employment. Now, I simply don’t see either of those things happening. That’s the inherent flawed nature of a Capitalist system. Besides, I’ve already been there and done that, so I can speak thru direct experience. Thus, even with a re-education, you are still dependent on someone else for work and an “almight dollar” wage in that particular field. Further, even after acquiring a new skill, you will still be susceptible to being tossed out of the “new” job -as was your aunt -perhaps even with fewer years on the job. I other words, there just isn’t much incentive there without some sort of guarantees, to make it worth my effort.
I don’t see the point in re-educating and acquiring new skills only to end up in the same situation, at a different place, that I had before the re-education and new skills. I have a simple rule: I will not work a job, nor exhaust myself in investment effort, for employment that I can’t count on being there and making a decent living wage. Simply put, if I can’t make a decent living at it, I won’t work to maintain my poverty. I won’t make myself a Corporate slave only to continue to be poor. I can remain poor without enslaving myself to someone else. But don’t get me wrong; I would love to be able to work and enjoy keeping myself busy, especially employment where I can avoid the “on-the-job-politics” that come with most employment.
I hope your aunt will be able to get long-term employment and a decent living wage at her new skills, but I wouldn’t count on it too much. The odds are stacked against her in the “Job market,” and the current politics of economy, even with a new set of skills -especially at her age. Besides, new skills become old skills very old very fast. And I’m not trying to sound hopeless, but on the other hand, I can’t deny the reality of the existence of the current situation either. Hopes and expectations are good, but if you set em too high, the longer and harder the crash when they fail to materialize, especially if those hopes are dependent on the actions of someone other than yourself. As long as the outcome, results or potential for success of any endeavor are not fully within your control, reality will trump hopes.
I wish it were true that we are limited only by the limits we set upon ourselves. The reality is, however, the overwhelming majority of our limits are placed there by the control of others. By the very nature of us being humans, we are unavoidable consumers. That requires a means, or way, and the necessary possessions to fulfill the means and thrive. Yet, those means and possessions by which to live are continually being taken from you or you are continually being excluded from the use of those resources by the powers that be. At the risk of offending someone, as one aspiring to be a Christian, I adhere to the Christian principal “For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land. (Deut. 15:11). It’s a catch-22, and therein lies the real problem.
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
You make a dang good argument Fasttrack,
My thing is, education is something that can never be taken away from you… and if you learn to do a real manual skill… then you might have a leg up on the competition.
As an IT person, I know you can never stop learning… so I encourage everyone to unplug from the tv and the net, and actually read a book once in a while… most libraries will let you do this for free.
Russia’s economy is almost 60% barter, at one point it was over 90%, and that’s the way I see things happening here in the US. When the economy tanks, some things will have to keep functioning… even without currency… so, the guys at power plant might agree to keep it running, if the neighborhood can keep them and their families fed. The computer guy will come out and work on your PC, in exchange for some food, silver, or other barter items. It’s a system of helping each other… you have an orange orchard, we have gas and power… so you exchange oranges for power, etc.
http://www.johntitor.com
Titor goes in depth in to the new economy that is getting ready to happen. It honestly sounds like it’s shaping up the way he said it would… and his recommendations of a gun, and a bike doesn’t sound too bad, the way the world is going now.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Guess what- it’s only gonna get worse until we the people put a stop to it. Any suggestions on how we do that?
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sumsrent Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Hey… you’re missing quite a few stars on that flag of your’s there fella… Did Texas and a couple others receed from the union?
Jobless Must Know Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Join together and unite against the NWO before it is to late!
MadMarkie Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
I could tell you how we stop it Bob, but they don’t allow you to say it out loud in the comment section of infowars.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I lost my job in September too. Now that I’m jobless, I can experience the recovery. LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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October 22nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Heaven forbid the bankers should have to loosen their wallets and allow credit to flow again. That might make life far too easy for everyone !
kris Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Yeah, that’s exactly what America needs, more credit. When will you guys ever learn?
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
America needs more credit, like an addict needs more black tar heroin.
Get rid of the fed, and the banking system… make it, where if you to get a loan for 100,000 dollars for a home, you’d only repay the 100,000 dollars… no interest… that would kick start the economy, and be in the best interest of the American people… not the bankers.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 am
Exactly. I’m glad I paid off my credit cards in 2000 and don’t have any now. I intend to keep it that way. Debt is slavery.
MadMarkie Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
Keep one credit card and use it sparingly and pay it off each month in full when the bill comes. Then if you have any warning at all before the coming colapse; use the credit card to stock up on food, clothes, boots and other useful items to help you and your family survive. If another bill does arrive, ignore it.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Well, at this point, I couldn’t qualify for one, even if I wanted one (which I don’t). I have no desire to acquire more debt.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
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October 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Look at Michigan…what a mess. I can tell you that the people here are acting funny…sort of like someone has spooked the herd.
I was out yesterday and it was very strange…people are acting crazy…almost panicked in panic mode…like I said…it’s like the herd has been spooked.
I am concerned though, about people turning on one another.
Very volatile situation. All it’s going to take is a spark…an ignition source.
sumsrent Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Boo…
N. Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
It’s that way EVERYWHERE now.
What we’re not going to have here soon is not a revolution, but a Civil War. Meanwhile the globalists will laugh at us from their ivory towers.
gow Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
dont you mean in their bunkers.
hybrid combo Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:05 am
ivory bunkers?
Doctor Who Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Obama’s message to the NWO: “Yes we can.”
Obama’s message to the sheeple: “Change you can believe in.”
I rather think that he is about to deliver on both fronts.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
It is laughable listening to the talking heads and HIGH OFICIALS say over again and again that the recession is over WITH NO NEW NET JOBS being created. You can’t get a recovery without jobs.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
yeah, and you know they’re low-balling the unemployed numbers.
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
If you earn pay for 1 hour per week work, you are counted as “employed” by the gov’t. This number was in during the Bush years. It was
originally around 12 hours under Clinton and downgraded each year by the politicians to make themselves look good and blow enough smoke to keep being re-elected.
Even gov’t numbers say the UNDERemployed and UN employed equals around 17-18%.
I would venture more like 25-27% “real world” numbers.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Rothschild says… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rofilepage
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
First we work to pay them.. Then after they have taken all of our money and we have no jobs i guess then they will attempt to kill all of us since we can’t work to pay our taxes anymore?
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
in with the new world disorder!
August Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
They have a new med for that!
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
on yes THOR”S DAY!!!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Interesting…..the states have double digit unemployment, but yet the national average is in the single digits………Something is wrong with the math here.
mike65 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I was thinking the same thing YO’el.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Laid off last week, but who gives a shit, it was a JOB and a shitty one at that. America doesn’t have careers, unless you count government jobs, (aka robbing the rich/ beating up and arresting poor people) or in the private sector, killing old people in nursing homes, working for some menial corporate cesspit selling toxic widgets, or feeding the slaves their franchise death slop. Hell I’d rather break rocks and shovel dirt all day, for substandard minimum wage, with Jose and Pedro. Maybe they’ll sneak me across the border to Mexico when this pinned up, fatten hog of a country, finally goes to butcher. I’m sure somebody needs a hole filled or some dogshit shoveled, as I’m part of the New America, I assume such tasks are still relegated, even for such a prestigious position. Maybe I can get work as a gravedigger for all the people the governments going to kill.
Slothchild Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
it’s ironic isn’t it? thinking about getting sneaked over across the border from the U.S. How quickly the tides have turned.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Heard a very interesting economist last week. He is saying the economy today IS the NEW economy of the US. No longer the historic unemployment rate of 3.5-4.5% but instead in the neighborhood of what we have today, 8-10%. GDP will settle in at 2.0-3.0% per year.
The national debt is baically unpayable at these new unemployment and GDP levels . It only a matter of time before the new house of cards created by Wall Street and enabled by our corrupt Congress collapses again. Only this time it will be for real, the final blow.
Good bye America.
Welcome, to all us new 3rd worlders.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
International Paper…….1,600 US jobs…….. GONE & 4 US PLANTS……GONE!
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
What most rational people accurately call banker-engineered “job losses,” Austrian School cranks euphestically call market-based “corrections.”
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/.....c=105934.0
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
It’s only a matter of time before the government declares that we, as a nation, are bankrupt and declares a national emergency, thus enacting FEMA full-force. Once this happens, you can forget about whatever “rights” you “thought” you had.
The “swine-flu pandemic” is only a ruse to the real threat; sure many will die (soft killed), those remaining will be rounded-up and sent to the ‘gulags’.
One way or another, all our deaths have been planned-out. The questions remains, how do you plan to die? Fighting or quietly?
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
CITI BANK STARTED CANCELING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CREDIT CARD ACCOUNTS!
“It is kind of an extraordinary action, but these are extraordinary times,” said Ben Woolsey, director of marketing and consumer research for CreditCards.com.
http://www.depressiongazette.com
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
TOTAL DEPRESSION IN DETROIT
Do you know how bad it is?
The problem is particularly acute in Michigan, which has lost 231,000 auto and parts manufacturing jobs. That is 72 percent of the 320,600 auto-related manufacturing jobs the state had in 1999.
http://www.thecomingdepression.net
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 am
Yes, and the number of automotive jobs in 1999 was a pale comparison to what it was decades earlier.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
I have a cousin in Benton Harbor, MI, who could tell you all about the ridiculously depressed economy there. And that, even after the supposed Bush-Obama auto industry “bail-out”
This subject brings up something that has always irritated me; people who drive foreign-made cars with “proud to be an American” or “support our troops” bumper-stickers, or U.S. flags on them. They defend themselves by pointing out that many foreign car makers have plants in the U.S. True. However they fail to realize the lion’s share of the profits of such auto companies, go back to the economy of the country where it’s headquarters is located (e.g., Japan), and primarily benefits the economy of that country, and not the countries where the auto plants are located.
You know, T.V. sets as well as Computers, were invented and initially made by Americans in America. But try to find one of either these days that was made in the U.S. No matter how you look at it, there’s somethig totally wrong there.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Does anyone remember Ross Perot saying that we would hear a sucking sound with the signing of NAFTA and GATT. The sucking sound is gone and now all we have is a empty hole here in the U.S.
There is no reason for a recovery because we do not have any industry left in country. We still have Hope & Change.
Buddy Kanusparadime Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 am
Yes. Perot was wealthy and influential enough to hobnob with the very reptiles who put NAFTA and GATT into place. And his ” associates ” would have told him the real reasons for putting those abominations into place. He was merely reading from their globalist songbook when he warned the US about what would happen.
But, realistically, that legislation was a forgone conclusion and would have totally bypassed the citizens, except, of course, if Perot had been voted in – Maybe – but likely, even then I feel.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 am
Hope and change won’t pay my bills and put food on the table.
Toofus Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:40 am
It can if you shack up with a wellfare mammy who knows how to work the system Gary.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
Ah, but if I did that, I’d blow her sweet welfare deal all to hell because she has to be supporting all those kids alone, with no man in the house.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
All of you that as lost your jobs you haven’t seen anything yet! The NWO is going to get this job market down to 50% in the next few years. It is going to be time to get ready to rebel. If you have any extra money buy a gun to protect yourself and your family. The mass population is going to break down. Join together and unite and save the republic for you and your family.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I’LL KEEP MY MONEY
YOU CAN SPREAD MY WORK ETHIC
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Joe Biden spoke the truth today, and Hannity nearly shat himself!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9a_1256007275
It’s a depression folks… it’s a depression.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 am
Joe Biden (CFR, Trilateral Commission) is only playing his role in the false left-right paradigm, while delivering the elite’s message to us. They are admitting more and more of what they are doing because they know their plans are almost completed and there is no way we can stop them.
Madman Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I know this, but then again, it’s nice to see him slip up and actually speak the truth… much to Hannity’s dismay, might I add…
It is a depression… and so far, Joe’s the only one who has even laid it out on the table… everyone else is saying it’s a recession, etc.
The only way to stop them, is NOT a peaceful revolution.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
So true. Biden must have let the cat out of the bag by pure accident(?). Hannity plays the “left-right” game as if his life depended on it; he is a militant Publican. Sad. I do like to see him squirm though.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Am I included in any of these statistics: Pay cut by $300 a week for the last year? Cant pay the bills anymore. I am coming to the end of my rope
robert,the hostile bicyclist Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Get your lifestyle under control,and you will get by,if you went into debt to live the way that you can’t afford,shame on you.
The truth sucks when you have to face it.
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Screwed, many in my area are doing good if they make 300 a week… so, imagine, how quickly they will fall, when that vanishes. Not making your situation any less significant, just saying, there will be plenty of people who are going to suffer and lose everything… many of us will be with you.
ChrisAZ Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
You are not included in the unemployment numbers put out by the government. They try to make it seem things are not as bad as they really are. If you include people unemployed, no longer looking for jobs, and underemployed (like yourself), the number is probably more like 16 to 20% unfortunately.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 am
Try 40%. There are millions who lost their jobs in 2000 who never regained employment and either started a home business or wound up homeless.
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Know where you are coming from, my business has collapsed, pay will be down considerbly, below poverty level I assume. The suppliers I used to work with on a regular basis have closed their credit lines because they themselves can no longer get loans either, most have closed 1 or 2 warehouses across the country and laid off employees. It is a ripple effect that is continuing through the economy even though those on Wall Street and in Washington say the “recession is over.” BS! Until our economy can creat 7-8 MILLION new jobs there will be NO RECOVERY!
One number you will NOT see come out the sides of the mouths of the lying Washington politicians are the new rising WELFARE NUMBERS! Once employment benefits stop, and the people are forced onto welfare, they are NO LONGER COUNTED as unemployed.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I heard alot of people are moving in with relatives to share expenses or they’re renting rooms out. If there’s a book out there on the depression, it might have some tips on what people did to survive. Or someone who lived through it would have alot of knowledge about it.
Tman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
oh please! Most people still have cash flow.
Slothchild Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I’m starting to see a lot more pennies laying in the street.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 am
Most are living on their credit cards, as they’ve been doing for years.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“oh please! Most people still have cash flow” -and you are from what country???
LMAO! More like “cash trickle”
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 am
The fact is, during the Great Depression, most people lived on farms and could at least sustain themselves with their own crops (unless they were living in the dustbowl). Today, most people live in cities and are entirely dependent upon a job for their survival and they lack the ability to provide their own food.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 am
True. And even if they did have the ability to provide their own sustenance food, they would have to own at least a small parcel of land to grow it. Most land these days is owned by an elite minority, as in the top 2%. Remember the old saying?: A man without land is nothing.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
True. I looked into hydroponics, myself, a couple of years ago when I was still working, but the fact is, you need a lot more yield than you realize, just to feed yourself, let alone a family. Even though you can grow more in less space hydroponically, you still can’t have enough to eat year ’round unless you’ve got a greenhouse to grow it in. A small hydroponic garden in an apartment is only a food supplement, at best.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
well thats a good idea ,but this guy is used to making a living wage or more ,now he may have to work for 8 an hour ,but look at the multi national corps banks forcing huge depts on places and child labor around the world it is sick vile!
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
What is that-the multi national corps bank forcing huge debts on places? I don’t know anything about that. Child labor is bad. We used to use child labor here too. I’m glad they made laws against it. Greed is very ugly.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I am not suggesting you do anything illegal…
Just a suggestion, the credit card companies don’t care a bit about you… some have started charging 79.9% interest!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
I LOST MY JOB IN MAY 2009. I’M ON UNEMPLOYMENT. I CAN’T FIND A JOB, BEEN APPLYING EVERYWHERE. MY UNEMPLOYMENT IS ABOUT TO RUN OUT TOO.
Madman Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I for one, extend you my deepest sympathies… plenty of us, will be where you are soon.
Keep up the faith, and make a bold step, and take your skills, knowledge, etc and try to go into business for yourself if possible. Get a skill that is always needed, and if you can, get back into school, to learn a skill that will make you valuable if you don’t already have one.
Best of luck to you,
Matthew
PS. Don’t depend on the government or corporate America for anything other than empty promises and rhetoric. It’s time put your future in your hands.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 am
If you lost your job in May, you should still have an extension of benefits you can apply for.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
I wonder how this will effect transplant organs availability?,for those who can afford such special kinda things.
Don’t underestimate how bad things can get,our species has no morals,they are all but gone.
And I have been layed off for three of the last ten years,I have money saved up,but I am downsizing still more.
I think a lot of you had better think about doing the same,because compared to me,I would bet it never really occurred to you to do so.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
See, it’s not that bad. 90% of the country is still working. That’s still a lot!
Josh Verlander Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Try 82%, as the real unemployment rate is around 18%. But yes, that’s still a lot—for now!
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:24 am
18%, my ass. It’s actually closer to 30% to 40% when you count all the millions who have fallen off the unemployment role over the last seven or eight years because they never found a job.
Fasttracktoww3 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 am
I’ll have to go with Gary on this one. Look who’s giving these unemployment figures! Can they really be trusted to give you the cold hard truth? No. They always spin the economic news to make it look better than it actually is. Remember, they’re politicians or economists (who work for politicians), so how can they be believed for that reason alone? I sometimes wonder if politicians are even capable of telling the truth(?)
It’s also true these guys don’t figure in all those who have been drooped from unemployment benefits. Then there’s the large numbers of those who are under-employed at go-nowhere slave wages, who should also be factored in. Here in Phx. the number of food stamp recipients has quadrupled in the last 3 years to an unprecedented record number, and continues to grow.
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Here in in Texas, the state can only process 70% of the new applicants for food stamps in the state required 30 days. For some it may take up to 6 months to receive the aide. By then many people have had no choice but to run up their credit cards past max, just for food, becoming behind months on electric, water, medical bills and the like.
Any jobs being offered are temp to hire and low wage, unless you have considerable expereince and a specific sought after skill, even then it will be lower in pay than you probably made 20 years ago. But at least it is a job and you can tread water for awhile.
The gov’t spouted numbers on unemployment are pure fiction, totally bogus.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
They always put the spin on the announcements of job loss, such as: “good news, there were fewer job losses reported this month than last month.” Well yea, that’s because jobs are running out, to report a loss on!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Huh?What? 82% is working? 92% is still working? Pull your head out.
30% are on welfare, social security or retirement. 20% are unemployed, U6 numbers,
REAL numbers of people that want/can/usually do/work for a living, most are giving up on looking.
Something like 40% work at gubmint type jobs……increasing daily.
That leaves about 30% of the population supporting the other 70%……
You ain’t seen bad yet, but it’s coming.
It ain’t getting any better.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 am
Lets all go to China. Korea, Vietnam, Mexico and become citizens of those countries so we could get jobs here.
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
LOL i have thought of the same thing.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 am
I have been in Mexico as a minister and theres always jobs up heir the pay is good and always hiring I have even seen alot of different type of races White black in of corse brown people right know they are paying 1500 dollars a month but thats alot up heir in mexico
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 am
Ya, I hear the church pays good money! Cause they have it all. I wish Alex would start exposing the church for what it really is; a control tool. A corrupt institution that harbours sex offenders, a community that tears us down and doesn’t bring us together, that falls short in their theology. It sickens me.
Prax
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Yep. My cousin’s boyfriend was showing me his photos he shot on a recent trip to Rome. He got some shots inside the Vatican. You wouldn’t believe how much pagan art there is there! There are decadent ancient Roman statues of hermaphrodites and all sorts of other weird occult shit. The place is huge, too, and there is gold everywhere. Doesn’t look at all like the headquarters of a religion that supposedly reveres Jesus Christ. Makes you wonder just which “god” the Pope is promoting.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
Attention Everyone!!!!! Instead of arguing over the facts and with each other we need to be making our own plans. from the level of yourself, your family, your extended family, your neboirhoods, your communities, and on up. we will not be able to survive on the us dollars we make we need to put in place now a new money system opposite of the new world order. to opose it. even if it has to be the old barder and trade system from old times that the gov. Can’t tax us on. we must build ways to supply food for everyone in the anti new world order system that will not beable to be taxed by them. Like for instance my family can grow okra and grow it well who around you can grow tommatoes well and other foods that will help. we need to set up our own market. Does any one have a better idea??????????????????
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 am
this is a peaceful way of handling our horrible situation. only use the us dollars we make to pay off our morgages as quick as posible or save it up to buy a small amount of land free and clear of a morgage!!! and only use the us dollor to pay the nwo there taxes. let them have the dollor that they want!! my family has started buying from local farmers now instead of walmart and the other big corps. my children are not happy about the idea but i know they will come around. we should have done this long ago and the system would have never got to the point it is now. a little too late on our part but better late than never. who will stand in this way??????Who else will give up convenance and do the right thing???????????????
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
make your own jobs guys, that is what americans are good at!!!!! yes we can, we can do anything we put our minds to!!!!!!! no matter what the adversity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! excuse the obama saying LOL we can even use that aginst them!!!!!!!!!!!!! there own saying!!!!!!!!!!
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
who will take me up on this challenge. will it be you?????????? let everone know how you are standing up to the nwo!!!!!!!!! and the one world money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i challenge you today right now!!!! instead of debating it is time for action no more talk about how the world is so bad only talk about what you are personally doing about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 years that is all we have to pay off our existing morgages if you cant save up what little you have and let them have your house, its just a house. you can have a new one may not be as nice but it will be safer from the nwo if you buy land with cash no morgage!!! even if you have to do it in someone elses name to get out of losing it because you owe the old morgage. we can do all thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
How about a gig as a hitman, taking out NWO scum?
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Why not, at least it is a job!
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Who cares. In the end we all die anyway.
Gary Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Your optimism is inspiring, Jake.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
So, when are we going to take our country back? I have read ALOT of good things coming from alot of good people, you sound agitated and pissed off and your in the disposition to get something done, so my question still stands, when are we going to admit to the REAL problems and stop repeated history and get rid of these a##holes and “other byproduct problems” that come with these a**holes. Does anyone know what I’m talking about or are people out there sitll living the lie, and I;’m not talking about the concentration camp crap in WW2 and denial and all that other BS, I’m tired of giving it credence and it is now a waste of time. JEWS, the answer is zionist jews, the synagogue of satan, these are the people who are the corporate, international bankers and if your a jew yourself reading this you too are these peoples enemy, why because they only serve themselve and satan, but evil has no rules. Read the “Protocols of Learned Elders of Zion”. What is happening now was planned LONG ago. We have more time to suffer and we will suffer if we keep having a defeatist disposition. Remember they still haven’t taken our guns away and gone door to door YET. Its time to square away our attitudes and begin to slowly or quickly take back this country, yes it is too late, but your still breathing are you not? Lets get moving, we need a large net work of PEOPLE and we need to be a real country/friends. Contact me directly, no need for fear anymore, why, what use is fear except to those that are evil and what you to feel the fear, RIGHT? Contact me NOW, tntsoleski2@netzero.com
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
The new state will have all the work or jobs that you can do.Lets see that pile of dirt needs to be moved over there ,no front loader it cost to much carbon credits so grab a shovel.Ha , Ha , Ha you let this happen,you build this problem,yooooou are the problem well that what the NWO thinks.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
thing we need to start doing!!
save as much as you can in everyway posible. we don’t need the latest cloths, i buy my shirts for 2 dollars and my pants 3 to 5 dollars. that is all i will pay for such no more i refuse to!!!! i buy everthing in bulk when i do buy something, stop buying prepackaged small one serving things!! you are wasting what little you have!!!! make your own entertainment and enjoy family time with your family the way it was suppose to be. turn of the cable that is probly 100 extra dollars in your cash flow to save for land or supplies. barder and trade things that you dont need for things that you do need. set up community clothing banks so if little johnny out grows something you can take it and swap it for a biger size. there are so many thing we can do to fight this.
lower your insurance coverage, its only going to the nwo anyways. use that money to insure your servival by learning a needed trade or buying tools for gardening you dont need a tractor to garden you can do it the hard way it will work. if there are first resoponders in your area use them for minor acidents instead of paying the hospitals. find out the skills of everyone in your area and find out what your area is lacking and learn how to do that your work will be in demand then!!!!! dont buy the best and latest gaget. use what u have untill you cant use it for that anymore. then find other uses for it. before you throw anything away look at it and say is there another use for it you will be amazed at what u will find. new inventions will be poping up everywhere. dont buy that new tv or furniture. dont add on to your house unless your adding on a green house or something that will be needed not wanted, wants is greed!!! needs is not remember that greed is why we are in this situation to begain with. hate greed and waste that will take you a long way in serviving what is to come do it now when u dont have too. do it now while you still have some cash flowing in. that is how we plan to prepare ourselves!!!! cable has been off for over 2 years in my house. we have actully became closer as a family even thou we have 2 teenagers LOL. Get back to the basics!!! Remember if you put God first and get your and your families priorities right everything will work out for you. My children and I have been homless. I know what its like to dumpster dive. To do with out so my children could have food. I thank God was preparing me for this very moment. this happened only 5 years ago. i didnt even have a car to live out of. i have a truck that is paid off now!!! paid in full no one owns it but me!!!! Thanks Be to God! However, I do have a house that will be taken from us and I know this and am prepareing for it! God sent people my way in time of need and I know he will do it again if need be. He is a Great God and if you aline yourself with His way and not with greed you will fair ok. you will not be rich but you will have just what u need at the time your need it!! I can promise this because God promises this!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some times he even gives you extra, and when that time comes make sure you use it wisely. In the past I did not and I learned my lesson to an extent. I still have much room for improvement. God is working on me dailly. May God’s Blessings Over Take You!
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
you obviously haven’t met my family. their more screwed up than i am and the scary part is they just don’t care. i’m in constant anxiety on a daily basis. i cry, i scream, i pray and at times just feel numb but they just keep coming slowly chipping away at my defenses. ive had an old childhood friend now a drug addicted alcoholic and homeless show up at my door and an ex neighbor also homeless show up yelling thru the door are you in there. if i don’t answer my phone they just show up. i want to move but i’m anchored to this place. i come from a large family and suffer from my own issues but these people will definitely be the nail in my coffin. so until you have walked a mile in someone elses shoes please refrain from speaking for others who barely even have a voice. there will definitely be alot of casualties from this orchestrated event and it will be survival of the fittest. when i hear people point out the positives in regards to family i pause to shudder because that just isn’t the way it is in my family.
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 1:13 am
YellowHak1, try to look back on your life and find something that God stepped in and helped you with no matter how small and start using that experiance as a reminder that God will be there even when it looks like He is not. Why do you thank God told the Isrealites to remember the passover and their deliverance. That is where we find true joy in knowing that the most high God was with little ol’me or you. And that Joy is our strength in times like these!!! It is what got me through all that stuff and will get me and my children through all that is to come no matter if we do end up in a fema camp or dead. It will be for His glory and master plan. but that does not mean that we just lay down and give up. we must make sure that what ever job God has put us here for is finished before we die. weather it be fight or pray and just stand our ground. each one of us has a speacial job to do, that is why each of us are alive today at this very moment in history!!!! The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and He knoweth them that trust in Him. Nahum 1:7 Have not I commanded the? Be strong and of a good courage: be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest. Joshua 1:9 (even if it is in a firey furnace!!!!!)
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Yellowhak1, for some reason half of my reply has been erased from this site. post your email so i can send it to you that way. sorry!
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
This picture pretty much sums it up..
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.....ofile=1002
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I gave back my house. I gave back my Chevy. Can’t make my credit card payment, The rate is to heavy.
Gave up the unemployment, didn’t want to shirk, I make three bucks an hour more than before I had to work.
The New World Order is changing things fast, hell, they even got the Taliban off hash.
The old dreams are gone, but new hope stirs up, I would seriously like to go work in Europe.
All things change, The wheel spins in the sky, The Taliban really want to make you fry.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I think you need to read Brandenburg v. Ohio
It does indeed protect “dangerous, violent, or defamatory speech”
Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a United States Supreme Court case based on the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action. In particular, it overruled Ohio’s criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence
October 24th, 2009 at 11:42 am
your missing the point! it aint the flu its the declaration of emergancy that gives the wicked one power to basicly do what ever he wants for the next six months without congress being able to intercede, also basicly puts fema in charge of the USA. get it??????????????
October 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Ok, I’m at a loss here. The Globe is like the National Enquirer, a bullshit tabloid, is it not? Why would anyone believe anything it claims? I don’t doubt that there may be such a list and I know about Fox News, but I could not find any other source re: an Obama enemies list that includes Alex specifically. Does anyone have any info re: this from a semi-respectable source
October 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
since i lost my job as a carpenter 3 years ago i have watched the media cover up all the real news on tv and have seen many people lose there jobs. jobs that have gone and will not be back and the sad part you can Google it . ford has 3 china plants they spent half a mill to build the latest one to build the ford focus and gm has 8 plants in china and they said they where going to spend to the end to build them and that was before they asked for the hand out I live in Michigan and it is being ripped apart many jobs have gone and in the next year many more big 3 plants will close what jobs will be left for the supposed middle class
Breathing Easy Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
GM also finished off a new $46 million subsiduary plant in India, purchased their new high rise office building in downtown Detroit for around $500 MILLION in 2007. Then declared bankruptcy and STOLE over $28 BILLION in private wealth from the people who in fact owned the company, the shareholders and bond holders. Retirees, pension funds, charitable organizations and the like, robbed the same if by knifepoint. What scumbags!
NEVER buy anything from GM!
October 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I live in Michigan and I see,
100 + banks have failed
789 gm dealerships to close
hummer sold to china
Saturn is gone, penske not buying it.
Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, I must still research.
dura automotive closed and went to mexico
but was in dc asking for the big 3 to get a hand out
gm purposely went broke to get there plants in china built and by 2011 many plants in the US will be closed.
ford spent half a mill for 1 plant in china to make the ford focus they will have 3 now and by 2011 many US plants will be closed.
Chrysler financial will be no more by Dec 31 2011
vise grip has moved to china
Hershey has moved 10% of it to mexico
10 things no longer made in the usa (made in America no longer ) Google this
media play closed
farmer jack gone in mich
k mart bought out
you don’t believe there is some thing wrong look around
hell… fed says we are out of recession do you believe that ?
gun sales and ammo up 90%+
China daily, china flag hung in dc
china has refinery’s in Iran
over a course of 5 years US will give 7.6 mill to help Pakistan out
many czars and one for the constitution overview, WTF
we are in a world of dept, national dept clock.
a second stimulus if the first one worked why do we need a second one then?
and yet people keep buying shit that they don’t need
or can help themselves survive
you decide it is up to you I can only show you what is happening
and it is up to you to be prepared
October 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
you like seeing companies close in the US and going to other country’s ?
are you able to understand that credit card company when you call them ?
if there is a 90%+ gun and ammo sales did you buy them for paper weights then ?
@ the rates all these good paying jobs are leaving what will be left for our children ?
while you are in your mid 30’s will you be able to save and have enough to retire on ?
will you be able to stand up and fight when you are in your 60’s ?
the time is now to stand up, the time for talk is over,
October 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
This is for the internet czar,
it only shows you fear us
MsDoSomething Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Yeah Internet czar wants to see who has woke up and who has not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why else would they be here???????
October 24th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. Daniel 11:21