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World’s Largest Gold Refiner Runs Out of Krugerrands
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Claudia Carpenter
Bloomberg
September 2, 2008
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Rand Refinery Ltd., the world’s largest gold refinery, ran out of South African Krugerrands after an “unusually large” order from a buyer in Switzerland.
The order was for 5,000 ounces and it will take until Sept. 3 for inventories to be replenished, said Johan Botha, a spokesman for Rand Refinery in Germiston, east of Johannesburg. He declined to identify the buyer.
Coins and bars of precious metals are attracting investors as a haven against a sliding dollar and conflict between Russia and its neighbor Georgia. The U.S. Mint suspended sales of one- ounce “American Eagle” gold coins, Johnson Matthey Plc stopped taking orders for 100-ounce silver bars at its Salt Lake City refinery and Heraeus Holding GmbH has a delivery waiting list of as long as two weeks for orders of gold bars in Europe.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am
BEAT the internationalists at their own game…….become debt free and learn the secrets of the rich from the very best!
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September 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
The precious metals market is in a very strange state of being right now, with indications of large scale manipulation. Here is a glaring example:
Spot price (for those who don’t know) is the market value of a given metal. Brokers and dealers buy metal for a little below spot price and sell a little above spot price. At least, under normal conditions.
Although spot prices have fallen dramatically over the last month or two, brokers and dealers are buying precious metals ABOVE spot price. Not just a little above either, but at remarkably higher prices than spot.
In a pure and unmanipulated market, commodity prices going down reflect a drop in demand of that commodity. Dealers and brokers who are paying high prices for precious metals are proving that there is a high demand, and will be an even higher demand for the metals in the near future.
These aren’t just a few delusional small brokers either, but worldwide metal traders and dealers. Check it out for yourself.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:17 pm
and govements are doing everthing they can to stop GOLD
because they all want us to pay super inflated prices useing the weak dollars systems
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I think Russia just bought an estimated hundred billion dollar mine last month. Seem kinda funny US is pissed at them.
http://www.reuters.com/article.....c=401&
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:53 pm
People in the know are consolidating and moving their wealth into hard assets.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I agree michelle, I just had a gold plated toilet installed in my Paris home. The lid is plated in silver, because it is easier to clean. I purchased some TP that looks like american one hundred dollar bills. the way your economy is going, soon I can use the real thing (will probably be cheaper too). The euro maybe a fiat currency, but it is at the start of it’s life unlike the american fiat currency which is at the end of it’s life. Besides, we have real money instead of that “In debt” fiat worthless currency, the dollar. after the fall of your currency come on over.. i could use someone to polish the throne!!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 am
I think by the 01/10/08 when the first of the 2 year bond yields are due that the USA will do something stupid and start a major escallation with either Iran, Russia, Syria or North Korea in order to take people attention of how badly they are getting fcuked finacially.
If the 2nd largest gold producer in the world is out of gold for minting , the 2nd largest economy has suspended sales of gold and gold is going down on spot values…. it smells like market manipulation.
So profit from it. Buy gold certificates and get it out as soon as possible when stocks get renewed.
There is a storm coming ….. get prepared.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:22 am
Buying gold is totally pointless!!! Buy liquor and ramen noodles!!! A`win win in the end!!! “All HAIL Thermal Expansion!!!”
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 am
Lance from France,
Okay, I’m taking the bait…You’re probably a Rothschild piece of shit. Fiat currency is linked you idiot! When the U.S dollar collapses so does the Euro! How about buying a set of gold teeth so you have something to put in your mouth after I knock out your teeth?
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 am
The game is clear, they bought the gold from you for $290 in 1999 , now they raised it’s price to almost $900 and advising you to buy. It’s the same gold they told you, back then, that it’s better to sell it and find a better investments such as “the Stock Market” now they are advising you to buy it because it’s a good investment. And people are idiots enough to play the game they want them to play when you know you are always the looser in it. After they take all your Money, The price of Gold will drop micarculsely, and they buy it again from you for cheap and the game goes on and on. You are the one who is making value for the Gold because you are buying it, If no one bought Gold, it’s value will drop, just like the Oil, if you stop buying it, and used your Bike or the trolley to get to work, the Price of oil will go down. I read once that in order for the united states to regain the looses it took in it’s economy and since the United States has the largest Gold reserve in the World, the price of Gold has to reach over $2400. So they are working on it. They try to sell Gold as less as possible, at the same time they are making the prices goes as high as possible. They advice you to buy, but sorry there is no gold to buy, the result Gold price goes up.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 am
Bilbo, while I respect your opinion you americans can not get the job done. By the time you decide to come over, you have to apply for your passport (6 to 8 weeks and cost $100 useless american dollars), get your passport, save up your money (because air fare is not cheap and with what they pay you at your employment it will take about 2 years), plan the trip and hike to the airfield, pass through pathetic security, fly across the sea, and try to find me in a Country you can not afford to be in, you will be broke, lost, clueless, and confused. Like most americans, all you can do is talk. Best thing you can do is go get some more ale, and keep stomping those brain cells. I will keep your application on file for the mentioned job. Regards….Lance.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 am
Id trade 1 oz of gold for a good Watermelon mmmm too bad the seasons almost over … I dream of watermelon
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 am
This reminded me of something I read on a book by Lawrence Garnder, The Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark. in the appendeix, Sir Gardner theorizes (more than that even) about what is happening to the actual phisical gold, and how it’s beeing purchased from govmnts at low prices by “mysterious” buyers. acoording to the tematic of the book, this has some alchemical reason, for gold can be transmuted into monatomic gold (ormus), an exeotic substance with many many interesting attributes, and that has been in use, at least since ancient egypt. this, of course ties in to present day “pharohs” and imperialists, NWO and such.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 am
the Bible says all money will be made worthless, God will do this!
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:57 am
Let’s blame the Jews, who you’ll think are rich, the Mossad, Israel, Zionist, Communist,
former aparthied government heads, for all the finacial woes,economic collapses.
You fools. It was people of this ilk who manned the concentration camps of Nazi
Germany. You so called lovers of freedom will volunteer to round up others who
do not espouse your twisted version of history, politics, and the Lord’s word.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
There is no such thing as “God.” Get over it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
The blaming of Jews as a people instead of the individuals who happen to be Jewish is getting exhausting. Its like pointing out every Christian involved in the NWO and then saying that Christians are taking over the world, or pointing to the fact that only muslims blow themselves up in suicide terrorism and then blaming all musilms. Its absolutely ludicrous. Are any of you guys implicating the entire American people for the actions of the government? Do you blame the average Walmart employee for the company’s business practices?
Use your logic. Understand the whole point of this so-called ‘revolution’. The very philosophy of the elite is ‘divide and conquer’. Keep us divided, and we are conquered.
Until you recognize that all people share a common, unbreakable humanity, we will never be free.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Bill Wentworth, you think that the average Israeli somehow benefits from the relationship the US has with the Israeli government? The elites created this Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the first place in the how the country was initially setup. You think Israelis live wonderful lives because a bunch of Jewish rich guys are providing for them on behalf of the American people? The US-Israeli gov’t relationship has made life more precarious than ever for the average Israeli. The situation is so dangerous that there is a draft. There are wars all the time, there is the risk of being blown up when you ride the bus, there is always some threat. This isn’t because Jews and Muslims are arch nemesis’ – they are scarcely indistinguishable with many tribes – its because this conflict was created by a small group of greedy men – of all faiths.
As a result of this thousands of Israelis are dead and thousands more Palestinians. Oh yes they really serve the interests of the Jewish people by keeping them in a perpetual state of war and fear, let me tell you. The Israelis have been as manipulated by these a-holes as much as the Americans. If not more so considering how close to home the situation is.
You’ve been able to separate the individuals from the masses when it comes to NWO Christians and Americans, why can’t you do the same for the Jews? As a Jew who has grown up with Jews and been to Israel I can tell you first hand, we’re not bad people and we’re not in on some international conspiracy to enslave the human race. We want freedom and truth as much as you do and as long as the anti-NWO movement continues to have this tone of implicating the Jewish people, you’ll keep scaring them away from the truth.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Thank you,
Unite in Freedom, you have put my mind at rest, to a degree, but how did Sharon get elected?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Chatters,
the same way Bush got elected. Playing on fear, so-called patriotism, etc. Same bullshit. Americans aren’t the only ones getting duped.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
A word of advise…
Stop blaming Jews, Muslims, Christians, Satanists, Men, Women, Heterosexuals, Homosexuals, Blacks, Whites, Orientals, Innner-city Youth, Illegal immigrants, the Old, the Young, Welfare Moms, Deadbeat Dads, the Education System, Social Security, or any of the MILLIONS of things some talking head claims is responsible for all your woes, Start pointing the FINGER at the true culprit…you, that’s right, YOU!!! YOU were given a precious gift of self-determination, with only one catch, YOU would have to DEFEND IT at any cost!!! Just how many of you are on the frontline? NOONE, it is easier to save your skin, and maybe the notice of your enemies, by typing empty words here or yelling empty words at the deaf on the street. Don’t you think it is time to put up or shut up???
Further, who cares about gold, who owns it, or who wants it? Is it the only solid commodity in the world? In war you must be prepared to change your tactics to keep your enemy off balance!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
AMERICA CAN PRINT IT’S OWN MONEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:39 am
Even Gold will do you no good when there is no food
Having gold is no guarantee you will not go hungry
The only real wealth is a plot of land and NON genetically modified seeds
September 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
It’s those dam lepercauns. They want me gold.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
To Marco on Post #33:
The GM seeds to have a negative impact.. if you plant “heirloom” variety seeds the resulting crop , if planted near a GM crop the traits of the GM crop cross polinate and result in the destruction of the heirloom variety.. thus the heirloom seeds cannot reproduce predictably. I believe this to be an intentional side effect.
A couple of countries, the Philippines(rice) and Mexico(maize/corn) have caught on to this scam and refused the seed from suppliers like Monsanto. Presently there are about 5-7 major industrial/cooprporate seed suppliers in the world on a massive scale..and of course these are owned by the major industries. Control of oil was first.. food is next.. Then I guess peopel will draw lotteries to control population if the food sources don’t do it first.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Just an opinion. I am not Jewish.. But I would hate to think my mind so closed I thought every Jewish person was in on some kind of big conspiracy.I was in the military and my travels took me to Haif Isreal on two occasions. I failed to see where the average Jewish citizen could be any worse or better off than any other citizen at the “common person” level. I have little doubt there are some extremely weathy Jews who have gained power and control throught time and manipulation as have many others who are not Jews. I tend to believe the “Jewish factor’ is not some big conspiacy to rule the world..
The game being played on humanity is by a few who have exalted and ordained themselves to be above their fellow man..and arrived at that conclusion by gradually taking control of societies using their own weakness(the means to make a person toil and take the fruits of their labor to then convince the worker they need to be ruled by those in power) would be a prime example. Another is the ability to create wars on a whim and never be questioned as to the means.
Remember Colin Powell’s “Clearly defined mission goal” from the 90’s being a prerequisit for military action.. That went away fast. Unless the mission is to profit like hell from wars for a few which has always been the case..Jew or nott.
I also keep seeing names like Rockerfeller and others “morphed” in past Jewsih names.. I am not sure if that is true or not and really has no bearing on getting the point across.. Which is these people have raped a nation financially..did it so under the illusion of legal business, have bought a GVT to make their corruption legal when in doubt. If every Jew on earth were exterminated today..Our problems would not go away.
Hitler already tried that and our GVT has taken on Hitler’s style. Hitler WAS of partial Jewish ancestry..yet he cared not for the Jew and he did more than express his opinion in words.
We would probably do better that in many cases people are basically human to a degree and suffer the sam tribulations no matter what race or creed. If you read the Jewish news sometimes the avaerage Jew is no more happy with their “leadership” than most citizens.
If anyone’s main instinct toward making this world a better place using hate as a primary motivator.. I can …without doubt tell you the results.. You will have wasted a lot of time and energy.. because hate will not destry hate.. it perpetuates it.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Man.. Where does all this knowledge of Israel come from… No human being enjoys living in a city/neighborhhod/community where every time you or your family walks outthe door you and your family may be a target… Israel is not like this “terror fever’ our GVT here in the US has sold us on. In Israel there are many “different’ looking Israelis. Some look like Arabs(i.e. Palestinian/Iranian/Jordanian etc.) Israel does have a harsh military past.. because they fight agaisnt the Muslim knowing if given a chance the radical Muslim would kill them in a second. It has become “normal’ since the establishment of modern day Israel. From what I have seen..I would hate to live in that type of atmosphere and you definitely would have to grow up in it. IAgain..I am not taking up for the Jewish people..they have their problems just like anyone else.. But to insinuate that every Jew is somehow a “closet billionaire secretly in control of the world” is not an argument I would want to make to display my intelligence..which I barelyhave enough to get by as it is.
Communist.. Ho Chi Minh… Was he or not? Histry has it that Ho wanted Independence from the French and asked Truman to assist his efforts to make Vietnam a GVT similar to the US. Truman refused to answer his request..which was ONLY to convince the French not to return…No expense to the US..just a little bargaining among GVTs.. Truman was above talking to the lowly yellow man.. the rest is history… Ho was as determines as any Patriot the US has ever had…. But to be a winning patriot.. you can’t depend on the help of crookedpeople.. so he went to Russia..who had their own agenda..for help. Any rational person seeking freedom for themselves and their people will have to resort to extremes on occasion..otherwise nothing will change and they will always be slaves and servants of those in power…
Man…does that sound familiar.. History is the same..Just change the locations, names..and let the victors write the history…as they see fit..not like it really happened.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Well.. If a handful of Jews can openly do this to the world … and do so under the methods they are doing so now.. Perhaps we deserve it. It is a bad thing to say.. but if cornered and I know it is freedom or die.. I am going to die anyway at some point … so the choice will be made by me or time ..but when conered by a knowingly corrupt GVT illegally taking my freedom as a human for little to no reason they contrived ..Constitution or not.. I will do my damndest to take as many as I can with me..be it none or 100… Death can be a form of freedom in some ways I suppose.
In the US 5% of the population makes GVT over the remaining 95% through silence and apathy. If silence and apathy were classified as weapons.. and I beleive they are.. Who needs the thret of nuclear “cleansing’. I know the “nuclear solution will not be good for anyone… even if it is mainatined in a limited fashion.
It’s kinda like the concept of getting to heaven.. Everyone wants to go to heaven…. just no body wants to die to get there..