Body language expert Dr. Nick Morgan thinks U.S. President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a “classic” alpha male problem during their conversation Friday.

Morgan evaluated the very brief video of the 10 to 15 minute encounter that was released by the French government for Business Insider. Though he cautioned the clip was too short to glean substantial amounts of information, Morgan gave us some insight into this short window into the action between the two world leaders. Overall, he said Putin appeared to be rejecting a proposal from Obama.

“You can’t tell much from a clip that short, that’s the caveat. … Nonetheless, it’s fun to speculate a little bit,” Morgan said. “All of that said, to me, it looks like Obama is making a request of Putin and he is saying, ‘No, I can’t do that.'”

In addition to the short length of the clip, Morgan said the fact it is unclear at what moment in the conversation the footage was filmed makes it hard to make any determinations from the video. Morgan also noted that, if Obama was indeed making a request at the moment the clip was filmed, it’s impossible to know what exactly he was asking.

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