In an exclusive interview with Infowars, former CIA operative and the Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy Clare Lopez warns of coming civil unrest, and proposes a tougher approach with leakers.

Confirming a multitude of reports at Infowars and other news outlets, Lopez verified that the “deep state” is indeed real, while also cautioning against generalizations.

“’Deep state’ refers to those who are willing to ‘break the law’ by revealing classified information to the public — specifically, to journalists,” Lopez told Infowars. “I also would not lump the entire intelligence community into a basket called the ‘deep state.'”

The response to such illegal activity needs to be more aggressive, according to Lopez.

“I would not call it a simple fix,” but “those who have leaked and criminally, they need to be identified and prosecuted. Once undertaken, that will prove a good example for the rest of them,” she declared.

Russia-U.S. relationship

When it comes to Russia, Lopez is not concerned about the future, or America’s ability to negotiate good deals.

“It’s so discredited by now, this false Russia narrative. It’s really kind of silly,” she said.

“Putin, his government and his intelligence services know perfectly well where this stuff comes from and how ridiculous it is, and when Russian officials meet with American officials, they’ll be on to more substantive matters.”

Lopez is correct when she says Putin “knows” where this “stuff comes from.” In a press conference with the Italian prime minister back in January, 2017, Putin took a swipe at the Obama administration:

“You know, there is a category of people who leave without saying goodbye, and that is out of respect. Then there are those who continue to say farewell and yet they never leave. I think the outgoing administration is party of the latter.”

At a press conference in May, 2017, Putin was more direct:

“We are seeing political schizophrenia develop in the U.S. … When we first witnessed this inner political battle in the U.S., we found it funny. But today, it’s not only sad, it’s worrying.”

Putin went on to condemn those on the left “propagating anti-Russian sentiment,” calling them “dangerous and grim.” Such comments from the leader of the Russian Federation contrast with the confident statements of Lopez that relations will be unaffected.

Civil unrest (& Kathy Griffin)

Lopez agrees that there are indeed dangerous undercurrents in American society posing grave threats to stability, but she is also optimistic the American people can rise above these challenges.

“There are some people here, Kathy Griffin comes to mind, who definitely seem to need psychiatric assistance as quickly as possible, but more to the point: once a president is elected, it is traditional that people unite behind the president and try to make that president as successful as possible,” Lopez remarked.

“Paying attention to nonsense efforts to divide us, childish demonstrations that get out of hand, sometimes on campuses — we see them turn violent, injuries, mayhem, property destruction — that is dangerous and that needs to stop.”

For Lopez, preventing civil unrest starts with Attorney General Jeff Sessions. “We are looking very hopefully to our new Attorney General Jeff Sessions and would love to see Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke confirmed and in his office as quickly as possible,” she said.

Clare Lopez is the Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy and in 2016, she was named to Senator Ted Cruz’s presidential campaign national security advisory team. Since 2013, she has served as a member of the Citizens Commission on Benghazi.

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