Mike Lindell, founder and CEO of MyPillow, first met President Donald Trump the summer before the 2016 election.

“When I met him, I go: ‘Wow, there’s nobody on this planet I’d rather have be my president than Donald Trump,’” he told The Minnesota Sun. Lindell was launched into the political scene after that summer meeting when he came out in support of then-candidate Trump.

“First of all, let me get it straight. I was never a politician. I didn’t know a conservative from a liberal before I met Donald Trump,” he said in an interview. “I went all-in to back him and to get behind him to be our president. That’s when I actually had to learn what liberal is and what conservatism was. I had to learn all this.”

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